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Speaker 1: Dope Knife. We are waiting on Reparations. So this is

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Speaker 1: our first fully remote episode. Yeah, my asses in Myrtle

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Speaker 1: of like you know, that connection between our like material

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Speaker 1: benefit and the climate. Maybe we needed that sort of

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Speaker 1: messaging that we've been getting over the last I want

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Speaker 1: to say, it feels like it's been like the last

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Speaker 1: five years that I've heard that kind of being a thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, black people need to be more aware

434
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Speaker 1: of like the climate, we need to be more up

435
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Speaker 1: on that and ship like that. So maybe it started, Yeah,

436
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: Katrina happened to and then talking about our like you

437
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: know black you know, brown brothers and sisters in Puerto Rico,

438
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: when it happened to we're we're getting wiped off the

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Speaker 1: face of the planet first as the sea levels rise

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Speaker 1: and these storms start turning up in the South Atlantic

441
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Speaker 1: and all the ship. Man, damn, I feel like that's

442
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Speaker 1: the way that ship needs to be explain for real,

443
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Speaker 1: Like they should just put that last little blurb that

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Speaker 1: you just said in like a P. S A. And

445
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: that's what people need to hear, speaking of people who

446
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: you know, explain it to you the way that it

447
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Speaker 1: needs to be explained. Let's transition this into talking to

448
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Speaker 1: our guests today. Let's bring Daniel on. So we're here

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Speaker 1: with Public Service Commissioner candidate for district to Daniel Blackman District.

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Speaker 1: Just okay, let's try it again. So, Public Service Commissioner

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Speaker 1: candidate for district for Daniel Blackman. Daniel, how are you

452
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: doing today? I'm doing excellent. Look, Look, I mean I'm

453
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: in such good spirit right now. I feel that we're

454
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Speaker 1: on our second win. I feel like we have a

455
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Speaker 1: lot of opportunity. I'm excited to be here and thank

456
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Speaker 1: you for the privilege of being on this show. Hey,

457
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: thank you for coming. Yeah, we're huge fans and very

458
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: excited to have you. So to get us started. Um,

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00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people don't always pay attention

460
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Speaker 1: to these down ballot races. They may not know what

461
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Speaker 1: the Public Service Commission does. So if you could explain

462
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Speaker 1: to our listeners briefly what the Public Service Commission is,

463
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: how it impacts us, and what some of your goals

464
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: are for being our next Public Service Commissioner. Yeah, so

465
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Speaker 1: you know, first and foremost, Georgia has the fifth high

466
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Speaker 1: electric rates in the United States and the eighth highest

467
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Speaker 1: utility rates in the country. UM. On average, in the US,

468
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: about five percent of a person's pay check goes to

469
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Speaker 1: their utility bill, and Georgia eight theme percent of our

470
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: page check goes towards our utility bill, So that should

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Speaker 1: alarm you within itself. And to know that there are individuals,

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Speaker 1: five individuals in this state that make decisions for every

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Speaker 1: single person's light bill. UM, that should be a huge issue,

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Speaker 1: and I want to change that. I think it's very

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Speaker 1: important for us to understand what we need to do

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Speaker 1: as a community, Why the Commission is important, why lower

477
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Speaker 1: utilities are better for low and moderl income families so

478
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Speaker 1: that the energy burdens don't overwhelm folks are just trying

479
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Speaker 1: to save money to put food on the table. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm very privileged to be in the

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Speaker 1: position we're in. Why you know the importance of the

482
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Speaker 1: US Senate and those are critical races UM. Pocketbook issues

483
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Speaker 1: like this are very critical to the survival of our

484
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: most vulnerable communities. And then lastly, you know, let's be honest, man,

485
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: our kids are at home without wireless broadband in too

486
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Speaker 1: many cases, and if our kids can't learn, they can't succeed,

487
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: they can't compete, and they get left behind. And Mariah,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'll view you as a friend like

489
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Speaker 1: that's just not gonna happen on my watch. I just

490
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Speaker 1: just you know, there's a quote by Frederick Douglas says

491
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Speaker 1: to you know, you either build strong children or repair

492
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Speaker 1: broken men. And I think we we owe it to

493
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Speaker 1: our community to build a bit of future for our children.

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Speaker 1: So this isn't your first time running for office. So

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Speaker 1: you live in ForSight County, which didn't integrate until nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty nine. Is that correct? Well, I mean kind of

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00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: sort of. So in nineteen twelve, the population of Reversith County,

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Speaker 1: UM it's African American population was eleven hundred of six

499
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Speaker 1: thousand of its residents were black. There was a lynching

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Speaker 1: that happened and the the the black residents were forcibly removed.

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Speaker 1: So from nineteen twelve to nine seven, um it's documented

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Speaker 1: that black folks did not live in the county. As

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, it is documents have been considered

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Speaker 1: a undowntown in the sixties and seventies. After nineteen eighties seven,

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Speaker 1: while there were numbers of black folks, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you tell me that out of twenty thirty thousand people,

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Speaker 1: that two hundred are black, then yeah, it might it

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Speaker 1: might not look like that or a hundred. So the

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Speaker 1: numbers have been low. Even today, only five percent of

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Speaker 1: the population for Side County is black. UM. I was

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Speaker 1: the first African American to run for office in the

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Speaker 1: county in two thousand and sixteen. UM. And you know what, honestly, man,

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Speaker 1: I take it as a as a You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't take that lightly because I understand that we live

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Speaker 1: in a country and in the society that while we

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Speaker 1: look at Confederate monuments in so many other areas, the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is, man, there are a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: counties and areas in Georgia and around the country that

519
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: haven't caught up to where they should be. UM. So

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Speaker 1: you talk took us back a little bit too, running

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Speaker 1: for office and forsythe county. You. So, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: go back to the route to ask you about how

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Speaker 1: you got started in organizing. So when I was nineteen,

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Speaker 1: I got active in the civil human rights community and Georgia. UM.

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Speaker 1: By default, I had a friend who I met um

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Speaker 1: at Clark at Lanta University. And when I say friend,

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00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: this was this gentleman was about thirty four years older

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Speaker 1: than me. So I rode with old heads and uh,

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Speaker 1: this gentleman, mayor, Reverend Gerald Durley became my mentor, and

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Speaker 1: he introduced me to Reverend James Orange, Reverend ct Vivan,

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Speaker 1: Mayor of Jackson, Reverend Joseph Lowry, Shirley Franklin. I mean

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Speaker 1: like I literally was baptized by fire, you know what

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00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, I went to Clark Atlanta University, and

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Speaker 1: I think that there's no better place to get a

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Speaker 1: historical education and context than HBCU for a young Black

536
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Speaker 1: man growing into maturity into himself. You can go to

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Speaker 1: any university around this country, but when you go to

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00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: a historically black college, it's something about your culture, and

539
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: it's something about seeing people at every level of your society.

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Speaker 1: So when when I first got started, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: who ct Vivan was. You know, I didn't grow up

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Speaker 1: um in the South as far as like you know,

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Speaker 1: I I my my dad was in the military. My

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00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: mother and father from Barbados, So I'm the son of immigrants.

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00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 1: My grandfather served at the United Nations. So you know,

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Speaker 1: my family moved here in the in the sixties and seventies.

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00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: And the honest to God truth is, you know, I

548
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: was in a position where, you know, I was so

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00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: vulnerable and so open as a young kid that you know,

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00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: I felt that there was a need to be to

551
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: get this wisdom in this knowledge and this insight. And

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Speaker 1: I mean most people don't know I worked in the

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Speaker 1: music industry. I worked for bad Boy Heirs to Universal.

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Speaker 1: I mean I worked in the music industry my freshman

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00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: sophomore year in college and and even into my young adulthood.

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Speaker 1: And so for me, when I met with them, Maynard

557
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: was creating something called the American Voters League, and he

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00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: had introduced me to Jesse Hill, who if you don't

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Speaker 1: know anything about Jesse Hill, besides the fact that he

560
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: has a street named after him in Atlanta, he's the gentleman,

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Speaker 1: one of the wealthiest black men um that was in Atlanta,

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00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: Atlanta Life Insurance, he Ashy was integral in Muhammad Ali's

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Speaker 1: first fight after he got out of jail. So these

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Speaker 1: were the guys I rolled with and met two or

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Speaker 1: three times a week, and I to this day, I

566
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Speaker 1: don't take that for granted because they're the ones that

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00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: drove me to Selma. They're the ones that that took

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Speaker 1: me to the King Day Holiday observance. They're the ones

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Speaker 1: that told me about bolting rights. They're the ones that

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00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: said it's your generation. When we were your age, we

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00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: did this, this, and that. So I was groomed by

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00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: guys that basically marched with Dr King and that really

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00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: set a precedent in this country of where we are

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Speaker 1: now as it relates to the civil and human rights movement,

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Speaker 1: at least in America. We talk oftentimes about the relationships

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00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: between you know, hip hop and politics on the podcast.

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00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: It is what this podcast is about. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: if your experiences within the music industry had any influence

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Speaker 1: on your early organizing and all A thousand percent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of my first gigs was working for

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Speaker 1: a guy named Wayne Brown. Uh he since passed on.

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Speaker 1: He was the program director at Radio one. And I

583
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: remember my first job was sitting in the back of

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Speaker 1: this promo van, you know, hot the van with no

585
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: air condition, um, going around the city, you know, uh,

586
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: passing out merchandise and literature, and you know, being upset

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00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: as a young kid, uh thinking that working in the

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00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: music industry was about, you know, putting out records or

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00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, just doing things that we all see on TV.

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Speaker 1: I no one ever taught me about or I never

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Speaker 1: knew the work ethic behind successful music UM and and

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Speaker 1: Wayne introduced me to Cathy Hugh. Wayne put me onto

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, bought me into a lot of room,

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Speaker 1: bomb into DJ meetings, And so when I was in school,

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00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: I went to school with some guys like you know,

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Speaker 1: uh Don Cannon h DJ Drama, like you know, we

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Speaker 1: we we all want to school together. When I was

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Speaker 1: when I was working for bad Boy UM, there was

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Speaker 1: a DJ named shot Kim who was but so so deaf,

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Speaker 1: and we were all collaborating and doing parties on campus

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00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: and you know, I cut my teeth UM and helping

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00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: to to build this brand UM on our campus and

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00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: in our city that allowed us to get to the

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Speaker 1: point that I'm at now. So the way it impacted

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00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: me was the work ethic. You know, when I work

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Speaker 1: in the music industry, there was this model that the

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: streets don't sleep. And I just remember always hearing Ditty

608
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: or j D or whoever saying the streets don't sleep.

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00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: And what they were saying was there's never a time

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Speaker 1: to not promote. There's never a time to not work.

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00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: There's never a time where there's not something going on

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00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: where a record shouldn't be played or a flyer shouldn't

613
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: be passed out or a poster board shouldn't be put up.

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00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: So I took that same work ethic into organizing right

615
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: because the difference between music and politics, honestly is that

616
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: politics take time off, right like music don't take days off,

617
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: and it doesn't take days off. People will find money,

618
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: they don't have to go to the Grammys if it's

619
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: really that serious. With politics, it's like you get to

620
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: pick and choose who you want to be around, what

621
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: you want to do, and when you want to do it.

622
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Speaker 1: And we don't have that luxury when you come from

623
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Speaker 1: a space where where it's a twenty four hour day,

624
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: seven day and week business. And I think that's the

625
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: fundamental difference. And I bought that same work ethic to

626
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: politics when people were telling me, well, hey man, you know,

627
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: why are you going to four cities in five days?

628
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Because I've been to twenty and two days when I

629
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: worked in music, you know, So it's like that that

630
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: know that that that work. I remember one of my

631
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: closest friends, Um, Mason Bethler, you know, like like Mason,

632
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: like for for years, Um, I did stuff with Mason

633
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: where I would have to like literally I would get

634
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: a call at two o'clock to be in New York

635
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: at five o'clock right with with like hardly any money

636
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: in the bank, But I like, get on a plane,

637
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: meet me, you know, meet me in Buffalo, New York

638
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: at five thirty like like that, like music removed the

639
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: excuses that people in politics made. So by the time

640
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: I got the political space, I didn't have. I don't

641
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: have the luxury of excuses. All I know is to

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Speaker 1: get it done. Period. Let's let's pivot to some policy talk.

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Speaker 1: So or you even do that, man, I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you all right now, nobody knows that story. So this

645
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: is like exclusive eve making hands right now, man, exclusive

646
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: clue all right. So, um, the pandemic has laid bare

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Speaker 1: the failures of our You know, a lot of the

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00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: failures are current order. I think in particular, the way

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Speaker 1: that we've shifted towards online learning has exposed how badly

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Speaker 1: we failed low income families in terms of high speed

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Speaker 1: internet access. So how can the Public Service Commission work

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00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: to provide internet to all Georgians and counties. That's easy,

653
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: get off there, but get out their office and drive

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Speaker 1: the investment. Find the money we made too many excuses, man,

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Speaker 1: Like I just like excuses make me itch. I just

656
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get it, man, I'm being serious.

657
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: Like to some people that sounds comical. I don't get it.

658
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: When when banks need to be built out, we find money.

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00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: Right the real estate market collapse, we find money. Right

660
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: when the car industry collapse, we find the money. So

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00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't understand why we can't find money when it

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00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: comes to pull or people to to to to people

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00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: don't have access to broadband. If you tell me right

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Speaker 1: now that that you know since the pandemic, you know

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Speaker 1: a certain percentage of individuals have made over eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars in seven months, then you can't

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Speaker 1: tell me that we can't find five ten twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars to invest in the communities that just can't compete

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Speaker 1: Georgia's prison population. Of Georgia's prison population read it a

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Speaker 1: third grade level. You know why, because somebody made an

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Speaker 1: excuse that they couldn't find the money to invest into

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Speaker 1: those communities, and those kids that couldn't read got left behind,

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Speaker 1: and those kids that couldn't read had to compete with

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Speaker 1: the fluent families that were fighting for the same Hope

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Speaker 1: scholarship that was created for them to go to college

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Speaker 1: and their parents couldn't afford it. So you can't tell

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Speaker 1: me that we can't drive the investment. So what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do when I'm when I'm elected on January five,

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00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna remove all the excuses by finding the money. Period.

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00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: I mean, like I I remember individuals that were making

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Speaker 1: records and they were like, man, we need you know,

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Speaker 1: hundred for this demo, We need fifteen thousand for this tour,

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Speaker 1: and they found the money. You know, people running for

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00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: office right now finding two three million dollars for commercials

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Speaker 1: on TV. Those same people that can cut a check

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Speaker 1: for a campaign can cut a check for a good cause.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna find it. You know, whether that means

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Speaker 1: we have to find do public and private partnerships, if

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Speaker 1: we got to go to family offices, if we have

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00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: to go around and raise the money, it doesn't matter

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00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: the fact that there's Atlanta and the rest of Georgia

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Speaker 1: is a problem. The fact that Atlanta thrives and that

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00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: Metro Atlanta has movies and sports and entertainment, and then

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00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: South Georgia has lack access to wireless broad in and

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00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: no hospitals. That's the problem, right, So we have to

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Speaker 1: really address the issues and find the money, find the resources,

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Speaker 1: and even if that means I gotta get on a

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Speaker 1: plane of my own time and go to Washington with

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Speaker 1: the Biden Here's administration, which has made an a numerable

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Speaker 1: amount of promises. We're gonna make sure people like me.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's important to elect me, to vote for me,

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Speaker 1: because I'm the guy that's gonna go up to Washington

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00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: and beat Look you said, you know, I don't have

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00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: time to to sit back and and and just enjoy

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00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: the fact that Trump is not there. Now that he's gone,

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Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? That's what you get when

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Speaker 1: you're getting me somebody that's gonna go find it and

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Speaker 1: hold people accountable that said that they were gonna give it.

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Speaker 1: You know, climate change and environmental justice are synonymous. We

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Speaker 1: need more black and brown people and board involving the

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Speaker 1: climate fight. I'm in a yeah, go ahead, can I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to like, let me frame that, let

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Speaker 1: me ask it so m you know, in the hip

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Speaker 1: hop community or black community at that, you know, climate

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Speaker 1: change and climate awareness isn't necessarily like at the top

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Speaker 1: of people's priority lists because everybody has their day to

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00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: day things that they have to do. So can you

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Speaker 1: explain to us why the issue of the climate in

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Speaker 1: the environment is important two black people. If you want

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Speaker 1: to know why it's important to black people, ask the

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Speaker 1: lower ninth for water New Orleans. Who has been permanently

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Speaker 1: displaced after Hurricane KATRAINA at post in Houston, Texas when

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Speaker 1: those floods hit, how their property is now. If we

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Speaker 1: really really want to fundamentally understand the time that we're in,

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Speaker 1: we need to understand that sea level rise will impact

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Speaker 1: the Caribbean. I was invited to the Vatican in twift

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Speaker 1: you know, one of sixty six people in the world

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Speaker 1: to be able to go to the Vatican and meet

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Speaker 1: with people from Africa, from the Caribbean, from South America,

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Speaker 1: from Australia, from Madrid, from all over the world. And

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Speaker 1: I saw the the African countries that we don't talk about,

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Speaker 1: like when Sudan had their floods. I've seen what happens

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Speaker 1: in the Bahamas. I saw what happened to our brothers

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Speaker 1: and sisters in Puerto Rico. And if we don't start

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Speaker 1: paying attention, we will forget and and not remember that

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Speaker 1: when it comes to climate change, which which is basically

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Speaker 1: a man made impact, the over usage of a dependency

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Speaker 1: on fossil fuels that has really compromised our environment, environment

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Speaker 1: and our climate. What we are now seeing is communities

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Speaker 1: of color first and foremost being impacted. Why look at

741
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: the cidification most black folks that most you don't even

742
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: know what the cidification is. I don't know what. The

743
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: planet is getting so hot that it's causing the water

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00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: to get warmer, which is killing off our fisheries. So

745
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: like our our oysters are, are our shrimp, our fish,

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00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: A lot of black people are dependent, especially be live

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Speaker 1: on the coast on fish. Right, it's destroying our ecosystems.

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Speaker 1: So we need to understand that climate change fundamentally impacts

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Speaker 1: everything from excuse me, I'm just going right now, but

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Speaker 1: plastic pollution to looking at you know, asthma cases. I

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00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: grew up with asthma. Right, No one ever tells us

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00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: why we're diagnosed with asthma. But when you see George

753
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: Floyd say I can't breathe, when you hear Eric Garner

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00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: say I can't breathe, you gotta also hear the voices

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Speaker 1: of the three times the national average of black and

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Speaker 1: brown children that say I can't breathe every day because

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Speaker 1: they have asthma, and they're missing school because of asthma,

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00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: and we're missing work because of asthma. So when you

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00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: ask me about climate change, I want you to understand

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00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: it's not just about the weather. It's about our public health.

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00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: It's about our survival. If you want to know why

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00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: the life expectancy of black and brown people dropped by

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00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: nine to ten years when it comes to our white

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00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: and our Asian and our Latino counterparts, is because of

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00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: the air we breathe and the water we drink. So

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Speaker 1: what I want people to know in closing is environmental

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00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: justice matters, right, Climate change matters. Understanding the science matters

768
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: because our communities are being destroyed for a lack of knowledge.

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Speaker 1: The fact that our communities don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what we're drinking, we don't know what

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00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: we're breathing, we don't understand how solar energy versus fosil

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00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: fossil fuel industry can not only lower our bills, but

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Speaker 1: it can also put us in a position where we

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Speaker 1: can breathe better, right, And so we have to understand

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00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: that we're the front line of defense for our communities.

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Speaker 1: And this is the only position in the state of

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Speaker 1: Georgia that's a statewide constitutional office that can not only

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00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: fight on work for lower utility bills, but that can

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00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: fight climate change, that can expand broadband, that can that

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00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: can do the things that our faces traditionally have not

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00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: been at the forefront of. So on January five, vote

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Speaker 1: Daniel Blackman for Public Service commission I will be the

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Speaker 1: first black Public Service Commissioner elected in a hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty one years. I'll be the only Democrat elected statewide

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Speaker 1: for the next two years, and I'll be the only

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Speaker 1: African American to my knowledge, in the Southeastern United States

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00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: elected to this high a position that deals directly with

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Speaker 1: energy and the utility regulation. Daniel, how can people help

789
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: you out if they want to see you elected on

790
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: January fat where they find all right in felt about

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00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: how they can get plucked in Man, you need to

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00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: just like like replicate yourself. Mariah, because first of all,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Mriah for for for the for the drop,

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00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: Shout to mcriad for being amazing, Shout out to all

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Speaker 1: of y'all, but no, what we need to do is

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00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: elevate hip hop culture, right um hip hop. You know,

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00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: at the height of rock and roll, um, rock and

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00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: roll and pop had somewhere around I think it was

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Speaker 1: like a fifty two percentile as far as the global acceptance.

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Speaker 1: Hip hop currently from a global acceptance standpoint is at seventy.

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00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: In other words, hip hop influences everything. We have outpaced rock,

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00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: we've outpaced pop, We've outpaced everything. We have to weaponize

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00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: our strength, right Our cultures are vibranium. Our culture and

804
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: everything we do is what makes us strong. So we

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00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: have to leverage hip hop to make sure that the

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00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: voting and electric electric process um is relevant. You guys

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00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: have to use this medium and platform to encourage more

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Speaker 1: people to vote. I just gave a flyer up brother,

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00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: and I've got to end here. I was on my

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00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: way to see us off and and former secretary on

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Speaker 1: Julian Castro today and when I pulled up, I saw

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00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: brother sitting in a truck and I gave him a

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00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: flyer and I said, brother, you registered the vote. And

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Speaker 1: I said you registered the vote. I'm on the ballot

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Speaker 1: and he said, brother, I f that up a long

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00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: time ago, and I said, man, you didn't mess it up.

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00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: I said, you might not be able to vote right now,

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00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: but let me work with you. Let me help you.

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Speaker 1: If you can't vote, let me teach you what you

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00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: can do, and let me teach you how to express,

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00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: how to spread that in our community. We gotta stop

822
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: writing people off because they don't understand our agenda right

823
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: because there's there's something I always say to my team,

824
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: and I always sell on platforms. If you're not at

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00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: the table, you're on the menu. So we gotta start

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00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: building up our community and letting people know that you

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00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: have a you have a role to play in the

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00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: fundamental education and advancement of our communities. Go to Daniel

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Speaker 1: for Georgia dot com. That's d A n I E

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Speaker 1: L f O R Georgia spelled out dot com. Vote

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Speaker 1: for Daniel Black until three, four or five twenty of

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00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: your friends, tell your family members, and we're gonna change

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00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: the world on January five. Yes, the Senate majority is important,

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00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: but to have a black man in an office that

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00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: fundamentally understands the importance of our interfaith community, of our

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00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: loan modern income families, and of our future. Vote for me.

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Speaker 1: A vote for me is a vote vote for progress

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00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: and just realistically for us to change the narrative. And

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Speaker 1: I thank you all for this platform, and I thank

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00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: you for pleasure to have you an early morning starts

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00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: on Monday, so everybody get out. I love it. But

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you so much. Man. I know you

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00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: gotta run, but this was awesome. My brother, Let's be

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00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: in touch anytime. So yeah, Daniel for Georgia dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'll spelled out that you can go there to figure

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Speaker 1: out how you know, volunteer opportunities as well to our

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Speaker 1: Georgia listeners. Early voting for the runoff all action starts

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Speaker 1: on Monday, and so uh, you know, get out and

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Speaker 1: vote early. I usually go the second day ELI voting.

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Speaker 1: The lines are us long because people everybody ever their

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00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: mom goes votes on the first day like it's Christmas

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00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 1: morning to open their ballot and vote for John sucking

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Speaker 1: ASoP so um that was a fiery guy to go Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Tuesday. Go Tuesday, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: h you know, phone banking, tax banking, there's al such

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Speaker 1: opportunities to help out. So on to our music discussion

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Speaker 1: for the day. Well, talking with Daniel, especially that last

858
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Speaker 1: bit where he was going in about the environment. I

859
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: wanted to find some environmental rap songs, some songs that

860
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Speaker 1: comment on our struggle with the environment. And first up,

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Speaker 1: it's the song that we've mentioned I think once or

862
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: twice before on the program, mainly on some different issues.

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Speaker 1: But it is the most deaf track, New World Water

864
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Speaker 1: at just a New World Water and every drop counts

865
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: you can laugh. I feel like, no, it's cool. I

866
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: feel like the sound is prophetic because I've been reading

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Speaker 1: a lot about the commodification of water recently and like

868
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: poculation around like yeah, be a hot commodity and it's like, oh,

869
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: that's fucking dystopian and terrify anticipating the scarcity and yeah,

870
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: we're ruining my day. Also, thanks most staff for predicting

871
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: that in Yeah No, Like that ship used to scare

872
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: the hell, especially the part where he said, um, he

873
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: sense like it's about to get real wild and last

874
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: you'll be you'll be buying a v on just to

875
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: take a bath. Like I don't know why that ship

876
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: lingered with me back in the day, but that was

877
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: always a rhyme that I always remembered like I mean,

878
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: a motherfucker would be in the shower, you know what

879
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you're reaching like that fifteen the minute,

880
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: it's like, oh wait, I'm wasting water right now, am I?

881
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: Most stuff would be frowning abby? Let me turn this off.

882
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: It out looking at heaven like you waste the water.

883
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Speaker 1: That's not what most test sounds like? What? But like

884
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Speaker 1: I imagined, I was like, imagine, like most stuff is

885
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: like Jesus figure, I don't know, I don't know what happens.

886
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, you know how you have people the

887
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: devil and the angel Conscience ship. It's like you got

888
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: like the most stuff on the side of you, Like

889
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Speaker 1: Yo's because of you, the future generations are gonna be

890
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: buying a ViOn just to take a fucking back like that.

891
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: All right? So um, next up in Mariah the linguists.

892
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Speaker 1: You are going to have to help me with this name.

893
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: Yeah you heads cattle, Yo? Do you test cattle? Yeah?

894
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: Do you test cattle? Gus test cattle? That sounds really dope.

895
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that's right. I'm not sure if that's right,

896
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: but it sounds right and coming from you, I trust

897
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: that that's how you pronounce it. Do You Test Cattle

898
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Speaker 1: is an environmental activists and hip hop artist um youth

899
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: director of Earth Guardians, a worldwide conservation organization, and one

900
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: of twenty one plaintiffs involved in the Giuliana versus United

901
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: States lawsuit filed against the West government for failing to

902
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: act on climate change. The lawsuit was found in two

903
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen in the Federal court rejected the government's moved

904
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Speaker 1: to dismiss the case. In November two thousand and sixteen.

905
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Speaker 1: Martinez Do Testcatom. It's also one of seven plaintiffs in

906
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Martinez First Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. Like the case,

907
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: it's like a state level lawsuits, similar to Julianna versus

908
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: United States. So these things you're calling people accountable, they're

909
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: playing no games, taking them story to the Supreme Court

910
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: being like, yo, you're literally selling my future to x

911
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: on mobile law And here is his track magic. So

912
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: the campus takes the poison from tip with the really

913
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: blows ways what people suffware while we killed the planet? Yeah, No,

914
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: that was dope I've seen. And he touches upon yeah,

915
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: intersecting existential crises of just like the impacts of what

916
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: sounded to me like living under capitalism which has driven

917
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, anthropogenic climate disaster. Oh he's talking about like

918
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: turned into a bottle of pills, Like it's all interconducted

919
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: and you can feel that in his lyricism. I do

920
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: believe he's indigenous too. Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, that is dope.

921
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: Indigenous brothers and sisters. We do have an episode on

922
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: indigenous hip hop that we we it's in the works

923
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: because this is a podcast, but we're both looking at

924
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: each other like it's in the works. It's in the works.

925
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: We still we still have we still have stuff to

926
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: do on it, but it's going. But um no, that

927
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: was dope. I've seen some of his speaking in poetry before, Um,

928
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: like a lot of that is a lot more because

929
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: the clips that I've seen of that was at actual

930
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: environmental list like events and things like that, so it's

931
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: a lot more directly addressing the issue in in you know,

932
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: unambiguous terms and stuff like that. But I did want

933
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: to kind of see what his music was like in

934
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: the scene, how he was appropriate. Imagine it's powerful speaker,

935
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: isn't as he is an m um. The next track

936
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Speaker 1: is my surprise for you, So just think back to

937
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: what we were talking about earlier in terms of the

938
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: Obama administration and not doing enough on the issue of

939
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: climate change in the eight years that they had. Well,

940
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: this song is a two thousand nine gem that I

941
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: found by the rapper Marquis. It's called the Dream Reborn Now.

942
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: The description of the song describes it as a song

943
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: extolling the virtues of green living and investment in green

944
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: jobs for disadvantaged community living. I'm going to stop there

945
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: and I don't gonna do anything. Particularly heard you was

946
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: about being before like house in the suburbs and like driving,

947
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: but like whatever, like to date. To date, the song

948
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: is the most to date, the song is the most

949
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: powerful voice coming from impacted communities to address the problems

950
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: of poverty, environmental degradation, and the opportunity presented by an

951
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: inclusive green economy. Properly promoted and leverage, this project can

952
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: reach a broad demographic of current and future green advocates

953
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: and practitioners. So let's hear let's hear fire from Marquees

954
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: the Dream Reboard. Probably to have a conversation about conservation

955
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: of nation. Conversation. Your look, that was hot, That was hot.

956
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: I have to say that's probably the take he said

957
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: the in the hybrid on Rims. You know, for real,

958
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: that was I gotta give it up, man. That was

959
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: like probably the coolest after school special rap that I've

960
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: ever heard, like for real, because the bars were on point,

961
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: every single aspect of it, just from the technical end

962
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: of like a from the rapper m It was like, Okay,

963
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: this is he's like a legit like legit rapper, you

964
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So then I could just enjoy

965
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: the content of what he was saying, which is like

966
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: ship that I agree with, Like you said, he was

967
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: saying real ship. So yeah, and again tying it back

968
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: to the economy, it's like with me trying to get

969
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, trying to save the earth that we're trying

970
00:55:54,680 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: to give that money. You know, I thought you would,

971
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: uh word. Okay, that is it for us this week.

972
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Speaker 1: Y'all once again follow us on all of the things.

973
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Speaker 1: I heart reparations on Instagram, dope, knife, Lingua franca. You

974
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Speaker 1: guys know where to find us. We're gonna close this

975
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Speaker 1: one off with a piece that Mariah wrote about our

976
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Speaker 1: guests today. So Joe, can we gotta beat Uh? We're

977
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Speaker 1: waiting on reparations Hey, we're waiting on reparations. Hey hey, hey,

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00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: everybody's buzzing us off and were knocked. We mentioned the

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Speaker 1: public service Commissions in the runoff from Benny to the

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00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: City of Columbus and McDonough. We need everyone that you

981
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: need to tell your friends and tell your loves and

982
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Speaker 1: your cousins. Uncle's mom has to go out on book

983
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Speaker 1: for someone who will make it cheaper to draw your

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Speaker 1: covers and eat you up until brick access to the

985
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Speaker 1: Internet to all the least among us, and sustainability to

986
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Speaker 1: geward this energy production. Daniel Blackman is the homie with

987
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: the vision and the comption to be public Service commission

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Speaker 1: that you want him to govern. Get your adds to

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Speaker 1: the polls January sifth but public Service commissioned at Daniel Berry.

990
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Speaker 1: Let yeah a, I'm dope Knife Lingua Franken and we

991
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: are waiting on reparations. See you next week. I think

992
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