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Speaker 1: It is Victory Monday. Happy Halloween, everybody. We came dressed

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Speaker 1: as ourselves, but the Victory Monday Fan Club came dressed

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Speaker 1: as the Victory Monday Fan Club. Good for you, guys.

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Speaker 1: We are we have moved downstairs. We're still in the

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Speaker 1: next few shows at Kanye Rosso And what a great

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Speaker 1: place to hang out and have a beverage. And I've

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Speaker 1: heard good things about their pizza. You're going to find

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Speaker 1: just opened a whole new line of conversation. It is

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Speaker 1: last week, it was Halloween. This week, Yes, it's victory

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Speaker 1: Monday because the Cowboys ran their record to six and

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Speaker 1: Halloween everybody, and and thanks for being with us. And

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Speaker 1: so while we await Osa, we'll just tell you that

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Speaker 1: here right here at Kane Rosso Now before we take

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Speaker 1: to Ohsa when he gets here. Please say more about

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Speaker 1: being a pizza snuff. I don't know. I just feel

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Speaker 1: walk across the street and watch them practice, and I'll

426
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: just get really bored watching them. So then I begged

427
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: them if I could join. And I was never good

428
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: at basketball. It's a finesse sport we're learning, that's not

429
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: really it's not really my strong suit. So I learned

430
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: quickly that wrestling was kind of like where I like,

431
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: it just felt more natural. So I kind of got

432
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: into that, and I chose to do that in high school,

433
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: and I felt like just over time one just because

434
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: my brother was three years older than me. So I

435
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: was able to practice with the high schoolers when I

436
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: was in middle school, like in the off season, and

437
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: end up doing it year round for basically the entire

438
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: time that I was in high school. So just from

439
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: not stopping and like always improving, I was able to

440
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: get really successful by the time I was a sophomore.

441
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: That's when I won my first state title and I

442
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: wanted defeated, but I realized after I won my first

443
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: date title, I was like, the reason why is because

444
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: I didn't stop wrestling all years. So then when I

445
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: applied that same that same work ethic to football, I

446
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: started seeing more successful football. So when you're playing football

447
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: at the same time, yeah, I started playing football like

448
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: a year after two years after I started wrestling, so

449
00:30:54,560 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: there was a little overlap. Yeah, you're talking about wrestling

450
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: like Olympic wrestler. Yeah, while you but you're an impressionable

451
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: young teenager at that point. While you're doing that, WWE's

452
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: got to come across the screw. Oh no, look at

453
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: that face. That is a sneer, ladies and gentlemen. That

454
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: is a look of derision, not like actual wrestling. It's different.

455
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: I can respect that though, because so my first job

456
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: was in Montana, and so we covered a lot of

457
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: wrestling in Montana, and you would say the same thing

458
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, like, who's your favorite WWE wrestler

459
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: and they would that same look that you just did.

460
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly how they feel too, because it's a little different.

461
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think ww's a performance. Yeah, And

462
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: I definitely respect the athleticism that it takes to to wrestle.

463
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Um my agent represents some wh wrestlers, so knowing, like

464
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: I know when to be impressed and when they're just acting,

465
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just after watching and there's

466
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that you can't fake out there,

467
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it takes actual guts

468
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: and athletics isn't to be able to do. So I'm

469
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: more impressed by that than anything else. Was there ever

470
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: a time when you were wrestling, yeah, that you thought,

471
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: oh I could do that and how much do they make? Again,

472
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: it didn't cross my mind. I was trying to go

473
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: to I was trying to play football the whole time.

474
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: I loved wrestling, but I knew that I wanted to

475
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: go further than football. So I'm going to ask you

476
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: the obvious question here, but how does wrestling translate to football?

477
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: What lessons did you take from being a wrestler that

478
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: have now applied to football that help you? Um? So

479
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: it helps some with my balance, um leverage, core strength,

480
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: pad level, but more than anything, just my mental toughness.

481
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Does the name Dwayne Johnson mean anything to you? Yeah? Right, yeah? Yeah,

482
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: the eye route football wrestling. I mean, when you're done

483
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: with this and you know, ten years or so, you

484
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: could still you could still transition with that someone trying

485
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: to get ketchup out of the bottle. Were you applaudings

486
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: playing about another ten years? I mean would you could

487
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: you see yourself doing that? Uh like going into the WWE? Yeah,

488
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I feel like it would be cool

489
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: to be a part of. Like I said, the athleticism

490
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: is impressive, so I'd have to train a little bit

491
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: just to be able to do the flips and whatnot.

492
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: But I mean they're getting paid you can quite a bit.

493
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Like I would definitely would not be opposed to that.

494
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: You can have Kavante help you with the flip since

495
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: he's out there backflipping. Yeah, on victory formation. Something else

496
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk to you about that. I

497
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: wish I had a chance to speak to you about

498
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: it when it happened. But you had a movie night

499
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago were you opened up to the community,

500
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: had you know, people come in and watch movies. Just

501
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about that and why doing

502
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: things like that it's so important to you to be

503
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: involved in the community. Um, well, that was like my

504
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: second and foundation event we started. Me and my family

505
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: started a foundation this past offseason just to be able

506
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: to give back a little bit. And that's just something

507
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: I feel like we're starting just the movie nights, starting

508
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: kind of small and slowly picking up as we go,

509
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: but just getting the foundation started and giving back is

510
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: something that's been important to me for a while, and

511
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to single parent families and just youth,

512
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like I didn't

513
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: get here by my own strength, you know, God willing,

514
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: I was able to get to this point, and a

515
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: lot of people were sacrificing and pouring their knowledge into

516
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: me to make sure that I was able to grow

517
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: up and become a stand up guy and have success,

518
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, So just being able to pay that forward,

519
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: finding opportunities to pour in where I can to the

520
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: youth because I know they needed and just taking the

521
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: knowledge that's I've gained getting to this point, just being

522
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: able to give it back and just using the platform

523
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: and just the ability that I have to be able

524
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: to put things on like that to do it and

525
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: just have an impact where I can. What was the

526
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: community's response to that? I mean, like I said, I

527
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: think you guys watched Lyle Lyle Crocodiles at the movie.

528
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Just the community's response to that and maybe some other

529
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: events that you have coming out there. Any good by

530
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: the way, I haven't seen it yet. Um as good

531
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: as a musical, So if you like singing dancing, I

532
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: think you'll enjoy it. Did you enjoy it? I did, Okay,

533
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: more than I expected it? Okay? Good? Um got another

534
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: movie night in the works. Um, we're gonna be announcing

535
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: that here in the next couple of weeks. Getting a

536
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: turkey giveaway on the way. Just be able to give

537
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: give people a little bit of food during the holidays.

538
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: Just help out how we can. I rudely interrupted you

539
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: when you were about to answer Hayley's question about how

540
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: the community responded the night. I feel like they they responded, Well,

541
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: the turnout was good, so I feel like it's gonna

542
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: be able to pick up and just people are kind

543
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: of as they hear about it, they're they're gonna be

544
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: coming in in larger and larger numbers. So I feel

545
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: like their community response is great. What's the genesis of

546
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: that whole foundation idea? Did you start thinking about it

547
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: when you were UCLA? Um, it was something me and

548
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: my older brother were talking about, just because you know,

549
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why that I play football

550
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: is from my mother, you know what I mean, just

551
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: to be able to help her and take care of her.

552
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: So just to be able to and she she's like

553
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: a very big part of it as well, you know

554
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: what I mean, she's a president. So um, is she's

555
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: doing the heavy lifting also tell the truth, Yeah, I

556
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: mean she's she's definitely doing a lot of the idea.

557
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: She's she's meeting with people that yeah, she's doing a

558
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: lot of the heavy lifting. Shout out to you, mom um.

559
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: But she has like such a heart to give, so

560
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: wanting to start that just so she could have something

561
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: that she does to be able to give back as well,

562
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: and something that we could all be a part of

563
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: because it's something that's important to all of us. So

564
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: wanting her to be heavily involved, it's just, you know,

565
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: that's just natural. And like I said, she has a

566
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: heart to give. She's been in the medical field for

567
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: like a very very long time. So just taking that

568
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: same heart that she uses in the medical field and

569
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: applying it to this foundation and putting the work in,

570
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: you know. So she's doing a great job. She's doing

571
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: a really great job. It's obvious. The family is so

572
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: so important to you. I think I read you have

573
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: three brothers, Is it okay? What was that like growing

574
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: up with three older brothers? Um, I'm a pretty observant

575
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: guy today, I would say because of that. Um, when

576
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: you're in a position where you have zero say, you

577
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: have to just kind of watch, just sit back and

578
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: watch how things are done. So I feel like I

579
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: picked up just just learned a lot of game from

580
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: doing that. And just you know, I have a pretty

581
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: observant eye, you know. Um. Also added to the mental

582
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: toughness piece, just you know, getting getting whipped on a

583
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: little bit. I'll walk into a school where everyone's my

584
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: same age and size. Oh, like, I'm not afraid of

585
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: any of these people, you know what I mean, Like,

586
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: I feel like it gave me the confidence just to

587
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: be able to go out into the world. If you

588
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: ever talked to Jake Ferguson about that experienced older brothers,

589
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: and he he said something about having an older brother

590
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: who routinely would put his head through the dry wall

591
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: and he learned then that he needed to be tough,

592
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: but that he liked the contact and that kind of thing. Um,

593
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: anything like that happened kind of just because like we're

594
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: always rough housings. When you said that, people are like, yeah, no,

595
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: if we were to do that, my mom would kill us.

596
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: So she wasn't gonna be replacing any drywall or anything

597
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: like that. So we weren't like breaking the house. Well,

598
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: these glass angels that she loves putting around and they would, uh,

599
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: these a little porcelain they would they would uh they

600
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: would break here and here and there. How many glass

601
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: angels were there at the very beginning, I didn't even

602
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: keep counting, And how many are there now fewer? I

603
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: couldn't count how many that we broke or chipped just

604
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: over the years of rough play. But I feel like

605
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: it's a similar experience, you know what I mean, like

606
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: I said, you get whooped on, and then you go

607
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: into school. Are you going to a sport? You're like, one,

608
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get bullied by anybody, and two, like,

609
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to compete with any of these people

610
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: because they're not this twelve year old they're like or like,

611
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: they're not this big teenager. They're just you know what

612
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: I mean, they're my age. You know, did you ever

613
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: reap the benefits of being like the youngest, Like, yeah,

614
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: you got special treatment for mom. Maybe definitely had a

615
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: little bit of extra protection from mom just from being

616
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: the baby. But um, I feel like I at a

617
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: certain age, it's kind of like we're all in this together,

618
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So learn not to tattle

619
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's like have your brother's back

620
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: over anything, you know, learned that over Like at a

621
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: very young age. How many of your brothers played in

622
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: lay at least one of them played. Yeah, my brother

623
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: is he still playing nah for the Giants two years,

624
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: but he's the only one who played in the league.

625
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: Did he help um pass on any wisdom that he

626
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: made it easier for you when you got him? Definitely? Um,

627
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: I think you asked me this last time as well. Yeah,

628
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: but you know what, also, everybody didn't see that. It's

629
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a it's an old question, but

630
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: it's a new audience. So I got you. But like,

631
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: just like I was saying, like the body care, just

632
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: hammering that into my head and just taking care of

633
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: my body, being coachable, um, knowing the reason why I

634
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: played the game, just because, like he he went through

635
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: a coaching staff change in UCLA. So one of the

636
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: first things that he told me, like, if you're going

637
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: to this school, then you're going here for the education

638
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: and the opportunity You're You're not going there for any

639
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: coaches or anything like that, just because you got to

640
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: be mindful of the the lack of security that they have,

641
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: like they could be here one year gone the next,

642
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: So just make sure that you're not here for any

643
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: coaches or anything like that. So and then sure enough,

644
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: like year two, Jim Morris gone, Chip Killy is there.

645
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: So dealing with that transition, just kind of looking back

646
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: on the advice that he gave me and just dumbled

647
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: back on the reasons why I went to that school,

648
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: which is for the degree and for the opportunity to

649
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: make it here to the NFL. Okay, some of you,

650
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: I hope will awaken from your Halloween slumber and you

651
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: have questions for Osa. We're at Kane Rosso in the

652
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: Star District in Frisco. Osa. Oh Diggi Zua is our

653
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: special guest, and we'll be right back. We'll have a

654
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: microphone to pass amongst you. Hold your hand up if

655
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: you've got a question for Osa. We'll be right back.

656
00:42:59,560 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: M was tw was was talk? How was to the mill?

657
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Like Cowboys Hour? Supported by Albertsons Welcome Back to Cowboys Hour,

658
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Speaker 1: the official pizza of the Dallas Cowboys. Also, Yeah, I

660
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: was just getting ready to say we were talking to

661
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: anime on the way in Osa. Says his favorite anime

662
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: is Bleach. He was mad at me that I said

663
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: I was conned into watching Naruto. Crazy shame more. Um,

664
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: that's like one of the I feel like that's the

665
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: Big Three. It's like a classic. So to say you

666
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: were conned into watching a classics like con probably wasn't

667
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: the correct language. I had to be very strongly convinced

668
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: there's a lot of context here so that we really

669
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: don't want to get into I have a feeling. Yeah

670
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: probably so yeah, but still, um, so, what what makes

671
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: good anime? Um? Character development probably the biggest thing, because

672
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: without it, like you're watching exactly the same stuff over

673
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: and over again. You're saying that about Naruto, and I

674
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: feel you because there's a lot of flashbacks and the fights,

675
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the amount of times I

676
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: saw Naruto and Saske battle on that mountain with the

677
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: between Did I say that to you about Narto an

678
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: hour ago? Did I not say the same thing? I mean? Yeah,

679
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: I mean just because it was such an important moment,

680
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They're gonna draw back on

681
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: that a lot, but it's good because you see the

682
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: character development, Like you have a kid that's like super

683
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: goofy and undisciplined to start, and then like over time,

684
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: like he's super dedicated and he's working harder than anyone

685
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: else to see his dream come true when no one

686
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: else believes in him. So I feel like to take

687
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: away and just watching him grow throughout the series is

688
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: is really cool. So if you're a character in that show, uh,

689
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: which character are you? And why Um, I feel like

690
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: I could relate the most to Naruto just because like

691
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: he was you know what I mean, like goofy, so goofy,

692
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: Like yeah, goofy, dorky kid, just working hard, you know

693
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. I could relate to that. Sask is

694
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: my favorite just because like it's cool, like his like

695
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: his his powers are dope, like just Slaske is dope.

696
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: But could definitely relate a little bit more to to

697
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: Naruto or even like Obtoe when he was young, because yeah,

698
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: like the same. I'd have to say, Saski's older brother

699
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: is my favor. He fumbled, he fumbled. I'm sorry. Um everyone,

700
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: Like if you've seen the show, you you agree that

701
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: it Tachi fumbled? Did he did? I don't have to

702
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: do all of that, but um, he's cool, but um

703
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: nah nah, I feel like the path that he chose

704
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: was very unnecessary. Do you have any teammates who are

705
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: who you can have this conversation with. I have a

706
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: couple a lot of the old lineman. I know Tyrn

707
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: Smith for sure, Like we could talk because of his

708
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: kids so interesting. Yeah, I mean I don't know if

709
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: it's because of his kids, but like I think he

710
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: probably put his kids on the anime, but Tyron reads

711
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: like manga and watch his enime. Who's your favorite anime character, Brad? Oh?

712
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't possibly top anything that you. My

713
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: son is a huge into anime and I'm dying to

714
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: have him here right now to carry on this conversation

715
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: for me. Say again, Okay, Um, I have no idea

716
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: what you just said, but that's good. No, I guess

717
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Joe Trey Hans got the microphone from the Cowboys pr staff.

718
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: If you have questions and if there's an anime question

719
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: right there, I'm buying Joe Trey hands drinks for the

720
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: next week. Okay, I'm so glad you don't. Okay, how

721
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm doing well, Black essen z He

722
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: I had a question for you. So every defensive player

723
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: has that one quarterback that they wish they can get to.

724
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: Who's that one quarterback where it's like, if I get

725
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: that on my resume, I'm doing good. Um. It was

726
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: definitely Tom Brady we played. I mean he's a goat,

727
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, sure, so definitely Tom Brady.

728
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: I was right there, but like I was saying, like,

729
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: you gotta win really really fast. If you want to

730
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: be Michael to the quarterback, and I didn't fast enough

731
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: when we play Shade like dude's doing this thing, you

732
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it's just part of that competition.

733
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: If you want to win, you're gonna have to do

734
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: it quickly, you know, absolutely, Thank you, also appreciate you.

735
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: How how would it be received if they actually gave

736
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: him an offensive play or two? Um, how would it

737
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: be received? I mean Dak and uh and coach McCarthy

738
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: both said, oh okay, now we're not going to hear

739
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: the end of Michael wanting the ball. Uh, definitely not.

740
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: He would he would want the ball. But I mean

741
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: he got the speed clearly, the good feat that he

742
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: gets from wrestling. You know. Um, I think he could

743
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: he could do He could do good things with the

744
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: ball like you could. You could damn the have like. Uh, well,

745
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say all that, but

746
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, I thought you remember, I don't know if

747
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: you watched Miles Jacket UCLA at all, you know some Yeah,

748
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would be on that level

749
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: per se, but potentially, you know what I mean, just

750
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: in terms of it, I saw him at I saw

751
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: him play something at Penn State and I saw the

752
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: cotton ball that he played in and I said, can

753
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: you imagine trying to cover that guy a fade in

754
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: the end zone? Impossible? Yeah, couldn't happen. Just better not

755
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: be an animated question, Joe, No, it's not. Hey, how

756
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: you doing good? You good? Good? Good? My question is

757
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: who has been your toughest matchup far ass offensive lignment

758
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: that you went up against. UM. Might have to say

759
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles had a pretty good offensive line, you know

760
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: the way this room just sighed. Yeah, but I mean

761
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: they do, and it's true facts. Who was who? What

762
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: would you have been over the right guard? Um? I

763
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: mean I both of lined up at least once against everyone.

764
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: So I just feel like across the board, they just

765
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: have like probably one of the better, if not the

766
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: best offensive line that we faced all year. There's no doubt.

767
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my name's Don real quick, Brad. You need

768
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: to school them on the original anime speed Racer. Well,

769
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: we all know that I could. Yeah, I could do better. No, No,

770
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't count. Free drinks for a week. At least

771
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: I know, at least I know who go go speed Racer.

772
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: At least I've seen that real quick question for I

773
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: know every team's got one, but who's the player that

774
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: needs the many petty before they go out each way?

775
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: O Um, It's funny because I'm pretty sure Chauncey actually

776
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: got a many petty this week. I wouldn't say that

777
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: he's like typically one of those guys. He's a pretty

778
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: clean dude, but like we had just noticed that he

779
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: got his like like a manicure and a pedocure just

780
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: this last week. We're talking about it. How how would

781
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: you know if you got a pedocure? Are you paying attention?

782
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, you you could tell, you could tell.

783
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you take your feet out of a cleat,

784
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna just be pretty gross and anyway messed up.

785
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: So when you don't see it like that, you clearly

786
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: got them done. They don't look anyway, like, they don't

787
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: look like football feed anymore, just like regular feet. You

788
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: had to have got him done to him, that makes sense.

789
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you could tell, you could tell, Yeah, okay,

790
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: up with that. No, I'm not at all. I'm just

791
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm just feeling like I need an app So obviously,

792
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: how you doing all of the stuff was good. I'm wondering. Obviously,

793
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: the team's goal is the super Bowl, but like, do

794
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: you have any personal goals for yourself for the season

795
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: or just for your career? Um? I do. I tend

796
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: to not share those with a lot of people, just

797
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: because that's just not something I do. And I actually

798
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: heard a study recently, like while I was listening to

799
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: the radio, super random, that the more you share your goals,

800
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: the less like you are to achieve them. Just something

801
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: about um having the satisfaction of achieving the goal without

802
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: actually doing it, just by talking about it, and people

803
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: will praise you for having a goal. So I'm not

804
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: even gonna get into it, you know what I mean?

805
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: Such really interesting, Like you feel me, I always, I

806
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: always believe it, But after hearing that, it just kind

807
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: of like reinforced just not even really getting into it,

808
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: just keeping it between you and yourself. You could talk

809
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: about it when you accomplish it. I love that. I

810
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: endorse that idea. Yeah, absolutely, we're that. We're good. Okay,

811
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: so we've got we've got just a couple of minutes left. Um,

812
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: will you do any do you lift or run or

813
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: anything during this week? You said before you're gonna chill,

814
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, how chill will you chill? Um? Mike

815
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna I'm probably gonna get a couple of light lifts in.

816
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run a little bit, get cardio in. Um.

817
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, a couple, a couple of yoga sessions

818
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of treatment. How far ahead do you

819
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: look at the schedule? I take a week at a time.

820
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: Do you know who you're playing next? The Packers? I

821
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: believe very good. Will there be any conversation do you

822
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: think among the players about Mike going back to Green Bay? Um?

823
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. We haven't talked about it yet.

824
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to talk about it either. This morning,

825
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: I feel it'll be more about more about getting the win,

826
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: if anything, then and revisiting Green Bay. Yeah, just real quick.

827
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: It's something I wanted to ask you earlier when we

828
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: were talking about the game. But Daman Clark getting in

829
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: on yesterday and playing a lot more than what really

830
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: anyone anticipated. You have watched his journey to where he's

831
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: gotten between having that surgery back in March to where

832
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: he's at being on the field now. Just how incredible

833
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: is what he accomplished yesterday and how proud of you

834
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: were I'm proud. Good job, bro. If you're seeing this,

835
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: really proud of you. I feel like that's something that's inspiring,

836
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: just because you know, the game is not easy to play,

837
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: you know everyone, Yeah, you wake up, you got to

838
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: go to work every day, and it's not the easiest

839
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: thing to do. But when you see someone like him

840
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: go through all that hardship and then overcome it and

841
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: be able to come and play like he wants to

842
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: and have that passion and show the love and just

843
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: be able to overcome that adversity, it's very inspiring and

844
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: it makes what you do on a regular day, like

845
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: a day to day basis a little bit easier to

846
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: because you know, like I'm healthy, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm healthy. I get to do this and feel

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Speaker 1: it just makes it a little bit easier because you know,

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Speaker 1: like I might think this is hard, but it's really

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Speaker 1: not anywhere near as hard as um what Deman went

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Speaker 1: will it take you long to get into your crossroom today?

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Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably not? Okay, good, We're gonna let you

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Speaker 1: have time. Oh so, Dicky Zoo. I tell him thank

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Speaker 1: you please, and remember we're off next week, Hayley and

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Speaker 1: I'll be right back here at Kane Rosso in the

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Speaker 1: Star District in Frisco in two weeks on the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Hour Yea. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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