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Speaker 3: Time for Big Facts, Big Bank, Baby j DJ screen.

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Speaker 3: Today we welcome legendary producer, songwriter and artists. The one

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Speaker 3: and only Sean Garrett is here on Big Fact. Sean Garrett,

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Speaker 3: what's up? What's up? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Man with you?

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Speaker 3: This is way overdue, yes sir, yes, way overdue, but welcome.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. You know what I'm saying. We

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Speaker 3: know we're gonna have a great conversation. And Geed man Ship,

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting. I've been waiting a long time to

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Speaker 3: do this one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is the classic, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, one of the hottest shows on line, straight

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Speaker 4: out Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 3: There you go, there you go, see my folks. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, the first day everybody want to know is

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Speaker 3: where the hell you're being? Where you're being?

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Speaker 1: Man man Ship, just finishing up this album.

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Speaker 4: Man finally finally finished my album and just really excited

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just been like a.

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Speaker 4: You know, just a great opportunity for me to sort

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Speaker 4: of like share some light and shit on like my

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Speaker 4: perspective on the world and the R and B music

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Speaker 4: and the culture and conversation and relationships and love and

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Speaker 4: hurt and pain.

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Speaker 1: You know shit.

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Speaker 4: You know I've been through a lot of I've been

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Speaker 4: through a lot, man, in my career, you know, a

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Speaker 4: lot more good than bad. But you know, I haven't

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Speaker 4: had my you know, moments of like triumph. You know,

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Speaker 4: still dealing with like sometimes you know, I have you know,

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Speaker 4: tough days and shit like like losing my mom and shit.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But it's been a really

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Speaker 4: It's been amazing year, you know what I mean To

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Speaker 4: see Usher, you know what I'm saying, All the shit

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Speaker 4: come full circle, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: twenty years later, man being the biggest song of the

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Speaker 4: to my man, usher Man. It's just, you know, the journey,

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Speaker 4: it has been really amazing. And two to get the

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Speaker 4: love that I get from my community and all my.

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Speaker 1: People that.

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Speaker 4: Love music, you know what I'm saying, whether it be

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Speaker 4: you know, black people or pop people or you know,

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Speaker 4: urban culture. But I'm I'm definitely, you know, a flower

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And I enjoyed and I feel like, you know, I

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Speaker 4: some of the people. I've given a lot of hits too,

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Speaker 4: and hard work and blood, sweat and tears and shit.

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Speaker 1: For so you know, sometimes you got to pop out

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Speaker 1: and show me.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I just want to I just want to

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Speaker 5: hold on, let me pull this up.

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Speaker 6: I want to speak to that for a minute, to

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Speaker 6: some of the blood, sweat and tears that you've given.

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Speaker 6: I want to run some of this ship down for

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Speaker 6: those that might not be familiar. Okay, So you've written

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Speaker 6: for the likes of Usher, Sierra, Tierra, Marie Mario, Ludacris, Nicki, Minaj, Brandy,

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Speaker 6: Enrique Iglesias, Calise Trey Songs, Nellie the Pussycat Dolls, three

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Speaker 6: l W who I'm Gonna need another Lung, Ritney Spears,

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Speaker 6: Lil Wayne Miley, Cyrus, Jesse McCartney, Destiny Child, Beyonce, Kelly Rowland,

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Speaker 6: Ricky Martin One twelve, Nicole Schersinger, Gwynn Stefani, Santana.

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Speaker 5: And Jack Queish, just to name a few. Yeah, a few.

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Speaker 6: So my question is, with all of that under your belt,

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Speaker 6: how do you remain humble in the midst of such

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Speaker 1: You know, my mom from Perry Holmes, you know what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, fish out west Side. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I'm from the Swatch, you know, I'm from Kelln's world.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to it's hard to not be

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Speaker 4: It's just I don't never forget that shit. You know,

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Speaker 4: you don't forget the fucking catch up sandwiches and yeah,

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Speaker 4: Just you know, I was talking about mom a lot,

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Speaker 1: Life, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Like, so not only do I appreciate, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: and a lot of those a lot of those songs

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Speaker 4: were my contribution to to the world from a talent perspective,

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Speaker 4: and like you know, wanting to succeed, like wanting to

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Speaker 4: I never had to work if I didn't want to work.

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Speaker 1: No more so, I feel like I've accomplished that goal.

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Speaker 4: Now my goal is more so focused on showing the

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Speaker 4: But also you know, just showing people that you can

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Speaker 4: use other you know, you don't always have to look

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Speaker 4: You can you can be yourself like I was as

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Speaker 1: Sound like how I look, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Or you know, it's it's always those or I you know,

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Speaker 4: But but my my confidence in myself, yeah, you know

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Speaker 4: thing that that was definitely the decision. It it got

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it kind of solidified your status.

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Speaker 4: And so and it was a lot, you know, it

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Speaker 4: it's so funny, like you never forget the motherfuckers you

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Speaker 1: Look the motherfuckers in their eyes now that you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: you know I knew it, and you shut up. Remember

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. What type of pushback you

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Speaker 4: It was pushed back from the perspective of like the

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Speaker 1: It was really crazy who did? So?

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Speaker 4: You know, to be honest, so I shout out to

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Speaker 4: UH my manag Secure Steward Man, God, bless us soul. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, so I signed my I sign my first

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Speaker 4: Calloway was really the guy that signed me.

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Speaker 1: And I had like four or five offers on the table.

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Speaker 4: But people were, you know, people were like, man, like

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Speaker 1: My whole old life change ship with my mom.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, My mom is my everything.

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Speaker 4: Ended up doing my deal with a Hicco Music Publishing

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Speaker 1: And I was just like, what are y'all talking about?

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I'm smoking all y'all niggas over there, like

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Speaker 4: You know, I played sports and ship, so you know.

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Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, especially like where we came from,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, but I've been doing this ship since

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Speaker 4: when you sign a postal deal you basically got At

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Speaker 4: the time, it's like, you know, you got twelve months

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Speaker 4: what I mean, to recoup or you go into what

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Speaker 4: they called suspension. And so I was determined, like, ain't

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Speaker 4: no more fucking away. I'm I'm not fit to get

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Speaker 4: twelve because you know, they stop your money. You know

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Speaker 4: I had offers for like Universal was offered me like

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Speaker 4: I mean firstly personally engineered the sense. Yeah, okay, you

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Speaker 4: I just didn't like the fact that he was telling

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Speaker 4: Because ultimately what they ask you to do, Like, they

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Speaker 4: And if you don't appreciate that, so so what happened

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They start paying all other

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Speaker 4: And a lot of the things that a lot of

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's one thing to be successful and

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Speaker 4: When I gave goodies to Sierra, that was giving back

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Speaker 5: You're just glazing over it like it's just but that's

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00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 5: like the major ship.

437
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 4: Like, so I had to go do that to show

438
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 4: motherfuckers though. Now did JQ do.

439
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 5: Did they?

440
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: Did JQ do running and give me that and ain't

441
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: no way in water wall?

442
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 4: And check obarn and give me body and upgrade your

443
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: ring and alarm and Diva does that sound like JQ.

444
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: Wasn't sound like John Garrett. You know what I'm saying.

445
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 4: And I I hate to have to give a nigga that,

446
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 4: but I have to spank a nigga, you know what

447
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 4: I mean, because it's like, don't don't don't ever disrespect

448
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 4: me like that. What I'm saying, that's not what you do, bro,

449
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And then and then people

450
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 4: start running with that ship, you know what I mean,

451
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 4: start sucking up your brand. So so so sometimes when

452
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 4: you ask, like where I've been, it's like.

453
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: Healing, my nigga, I've been healing, you know what I'm saying.

454
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 4: I just you know, I took, I got my I

455
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 4: took my wounds, you know what I'm saying.

456
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, I licked my wounds, and I learned. You

457
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I've been learning and growing. They

458
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: said anything else?

459
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 3: When what you think the disconnection is though, between the

460
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 3: writer and the artists. You think, do you think that

461
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 3: there is a little bit of ego there because the

462
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 3: artists obviously the performer, the superstar. They go and you know,

463
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 3: they got certain things that they have to do to

464
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: make a record successful. But of course the pend the producer,

465
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 3: the engineer. There's a lot of other elements that make

466
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 3: a record successful. But why do we see that so much?

467
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: The class between the artists, and I think it's more

468
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 3: of a black urban thing, to be honest, I don't.

469
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you see, country artists always show a lot

470
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 4: of love and respect to the songwriters and the people that.

471
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: You know, they get up there and I like, thank

472
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: Bob and Jesse, you know, bring everybody up on stage

473
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 4: and all that type of shit. But you know, brothers, Yeah,

474
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 4: it's like, you know what, And it's not just the artist,

475
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 4: it's the managers. It's the people that's in business with

476
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 4: those people that convince them to to for some reason,

477
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 4: to make them think they're one man band. When it

478
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 4: took a nation, or it took a it took a village,

479
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 4: you know.

480
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

481
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 4: And I mean it takes you gotta be special people

482
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 4: to come up with these fucking songs like this. Ain't

483
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: like like you was sleep on the couch, Like you

484
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 4: didn't like I remember you were sleep.

485
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: Okay, you were sleep.

486
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 4: You woke up here you sang the motherfucker, but you

487
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 4: was asleep Okay, Okay.

488
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: Like let's not get this shit fucked up.

489
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 4: Now you got this convenient amnesia, and now you're on

490
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 4: a whole nother tangent because you got the mic and

491
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 4: you on stage and you fucking receiving the award.

492
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: But now you're the fucking disrespect when you say, and

493
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 3: I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm just trying to perspect perspectives.

494
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: So if what do we do is somebody fresh as hell, right,

495
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: and they go to the awards and they fresh as hell,

496
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: and they're like bros fresh as hell, right, but you

497
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 3: know that bros fresh as hell because of the stylists.

498
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: Should that person on that award stage give love and

499
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: respect to the styles?

500
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: I feel so too. Definitely, you should always think people.

501
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: If they don't, then I don't take it.

502
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 4: I mean, you ain't never seen it, Like I ain't crying,

503
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm just being clear, right,

504
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's just like at some

505
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: points twenty years later, like you couldn't thank me in

506
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: twenty years.

507
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

508
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 4: If you couldn't thank me in twenty years, that means

509
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: you appreciate me, you know what I mean?

510
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: You may hope and make another hope.

511
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 7: You know, I've seen stylists push it on niggas and

512
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 7: it still don't look right.

513
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: Though. Yeah, we see put it.

514
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: I'll show you written for people and it just didn't

515
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: work because they just won't it.

516
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not the crazy part about the word writing.

517
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: It's kind of like it's not a fear just of

518
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: what we do. Like I create the song, I mean

519
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: write the song, sing the song, arrange the song so

520
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 4: it so when you present the song to them, it's

521
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 4: already done.

522
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: All they gotta do is come in there and do

523
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: what they do as an artist and sing.

524
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 5: So you don't just so basically you don't just write,

525
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 5: you construct.

526
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: I completely create the song.

527
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 4: I go take this and take that, and at this

528
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 4: and at this, and get in front of them and

529
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: record the song this, this melody with.

530
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 6: That tone, this this, and put it together and you

531
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 6: basically sing it for them and do everything for them

532
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 6: and just have them redo it in their voice.

533
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's not like they're not talented. They are talented.

534
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: It's like an actor. It's like the actor don't write

535
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: the script. There's a there's a writer that writes the script,

536
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 4: and then there's a director and then there's a producer.

537
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: There are different people that do different things.

538
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: But unfortunately people don't understand the power in sharing.

539
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: There's a power in sharing.

540
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: There's a power in saying, hey man, this person right

541
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 4: here is really really great at what they do and

542
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 4: they help me do this and that. Right of course

543
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 4: you're gonna get to shine you on stage. I mean,

544
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: we see you. And I'm not complaining this. You know this,

545
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 4: this interview for me is not about me complaining or

546
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 4: making this about I really want to talk about my

547
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: mother of an album. But but but in all fairness,

548
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 4: it for the for the for the younger generation and

549
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 4: the newer songwriter producers.

550
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: You know, this is how good you have to be though.

551
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: That's the point that I'm trying to make.

552
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 4: You really gotta be good, you really really, because it's

553
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot people gonna shot on you.

554
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: They're gonna play you.

555
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna play you out your position, they're gonna try

556
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: to they're gonna they're gonna fuck with your mind, they're

557
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: gonna hurt your feelings. It's a lot of ship, you

558
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And I just don't want to.

559
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 4: I don't want to sugarcoat this ship and make it

560
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: seem like it's a fucking man. Yeah, you know what

561
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: is the superman like? No, nigga Like. I'm a hard

562
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: working as person who takes everything serious.

563
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: You know.

564
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: I know my business, I know how the game works.

565
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: I can tell you my mistakes. You know, I took

566
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 4: those scars, you know. I remember getting hated on. I

567
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: remember that motherfucker still on stage and just say shit.

568
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I.

569
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 7: Remember that other time that you overlooked the record, that

570
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 7: you thought it was gonna be okay, but it like

571
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 7: shocked you, Like damn.

572
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it happens too, you know, Yeah, for sure, bro,

573
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 4: because you know, I mean, this.

574
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: Guy's world, it's not my world, you know.

575
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: But I'm just thankful that I have been able to

576
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 4: be a part of some of the greatest artists in

577
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: the world's lives. I appreciate them giving me the opportunity

578
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 4: to work with them, you know, being able to work

579
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 4: with especially the newer artists. You know, when it was

580
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: when when it was Chris, you know, to see where

581
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 4: Chris is now and to see how just amazing he

582
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 4: is as far as as like his true talent as

583
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: an artist, right he's surpassed. Now, this would be the

584
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 4: conversation I have with Chris. I would say, Chris, you're

585
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 4: so good. Now go back to Michael. What would Michael do?

586
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: Michael will put together a project that is so incredible

587
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 4: with the best of the best creatives and change the

588
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 4: world because you're that good. You know what I'm saying,

589
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: meaning like, let's sit down and have a conversation, create

590
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 4: a conversation about your narrative, about your life, because when

591
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 4: we get into Chris Brown's life, that's when it gets

592
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: really fascinating. You understand what I'm saying, Like, that's what

593
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: Michael would do. Michael, you know, and he loves Michael,

594
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: and we've had those conversations and.

595
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: Is your man on the floor If you ain't, let

596
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: me know, that's Michael. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

597
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: y's you guy knows Let me give me that's Michael.

598
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know me, I'm.

599
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: You know, So he loves Michael, and I gave him Michael,

600
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 4: and he gave me inspiration, right, And so I feel

601
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: like facilities artists, I'm the greatest to work with for them.

602
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying other people aren't. That was all about

603
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: to ask you, so, who's the greatest of your era? Song? Right,

604
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: the greatest song right of your hero me?

605
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: The greatest?

606
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, no better than that, you know.

607
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: It's like comparing Michael Jordan and Kobe.

608
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: So that's what I wanted to ask you too.

609
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 6: Did y'all ever get back on the same page after

610
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 6: that whole versus thebacle?

611
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't a debacle.

612
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: It was basically, respectfully, you know what it is. It

613
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: was as as Black said it was. It was pure reality, okay, right,

614
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: And the reality is I'm the greatest of my generation

615
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: numbers wise, the way I affect the culture, I was

616
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: first at doing a lot.

617
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: I was first to change the game.

618
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: I didn't Yes, it's the number eleven song on the

619
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: biggest on the greatest hits of all time, high one

620
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: hundred list period.

621
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't care what, none of nobody don't care. With

622
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: noning nobody.

623
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: There's only one person that's living right now as a

624
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: producer that's in front of me, and that's Jermaine Dupree

625
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: And he's number ten with We Belong Together. So that's

626
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: he not from my generation, He's from the generation before me,

627
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: you feel me so.

628
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 6: So basically, JD is the only nigga that's close enough

629
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 6: to even be able to fit in that comparison with you.

630
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: It's just the truth. Yeah, you know what I mean?

631
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: I got eighteen high one hundred and one. Is you

632
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: ask any and what I mean?

633
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: Nigga Hot one? You know that number one spot on

634
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: that Hot one hundred listen like that? Yeah?

635
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Who you think? Who you think?

636
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 7: The up and coming goal is of like songwriting, like

637
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 7: these new guys, this generation songwriter.

638
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

639
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: I feel like there's there's a there's quite a few

640
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: people that's showing potential.

641
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't see it yet. You see what hit Maker?

642
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: Just being honest, it's a big fact. I like Hitmaker,

643
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: but he don't have a high one hundred number one yet.

644
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: He gotta.

645
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: You gotta have the numbers, guys, you can. You can

646
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 4: call yourself hit maker. You can. You can do all

647
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: of that. You gotta show up and show the funk out.

648
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: All that talking is for the birds. You got to show.

649
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: Me, like the record you just played in them, Yeah,

650
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: show me, you gotta press me, show me and listen.

651
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: I love hit Maker, but I would be doing hit

652
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: Maker at this.

653
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: Service to say that he is doing that when you

654
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: ain't got the numbers, because somebody's gonna come along and

655
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: kill you with that conversation. I don't want to misleave

656
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: my brother and say, hey, brother, you're doing this, and

657
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: when you're gonna bring it, somebody's gonna walk up and say,

658
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: you know, it's just like somebody's gonna somebody's gonna what

659
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: they call uh what they call it when you they're

660
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: gonna fact check you. You know what I'm saying, like, like,

661
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: who have you broke? Like I broke Chris Brown, I

662
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: broke Sierra I sent us You're through the moon like

663
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: I said, Beyonce through the universe.

664
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Think part of it. Just it's a different time.

665
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: And you know, by the time I'm talking about what

666
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: what the what time capsules?

667
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: Respect what we're talking about some big facts and were

668
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: talking about you can't bring me on big facts that

669
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: he ain't want to talk about no facts. How we

670
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it.

671
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: But I mean, and that's the reality of it. It's

672
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: like and that's see, that's the bullshit.

673
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

674
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: Because you because you're wearing because you because you win,

675
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: you're in that uniform I'm supposed to give you.

676
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Nah, what about producing? What produces? What you want to

677
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: work with in this time?

678
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I like a lot of the producers,

679
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: you know, I like a lot of See I gotta

680
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: go back like see. That's the hard part because some

681
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: people don't look at an interview and be like my

682
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: nigga cocks hell, you know, but black like he's supposed

683
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: to tell his motherfuckers. You supposed let him know better, right.

684
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: But the hard part, that's the that's the hard part,

685
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: because I don't like.

686
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like. I don't like.

687
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: Putting anybody down when you ask me about him making

688
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 4: it's a heart, it's a heart.

689
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: It's a hard respond you know.

690
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, because it's like, oh you hate on

691
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: ah not because they was no motherfuckers didn't let me.

692
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: They didn't give me that bro. They wouldn't give me

693
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: no room. Yeah, they wouldn't give me no room. They

694
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: won't give me no I did, yeah, and they was like, yeah,

695
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: that's usher what Okay, So you're saying whatever you did.

696
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 7: They were trying to kind of hold up like man,

697
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 7: because they yell, had they got leaked, right, Yeah.

698
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 4: And it was it was because it was it was

699
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: just God, that was just that just came out of nowhere.

700
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: It's like that song was leaked December twenty third, uh,

701
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 4: two thousand and three when we went on Christmas vacation.

702
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: Came back. Man, that motherfuckers like sixty three hundred spins

703
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: a week you work?

704
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what's that?

705
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: You can't stop that?

706
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable, you know, And it's like and it's like

707
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: all of the other people, you know, it's like at

708
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: some point, ain't look, bro, you you could just you could,

709
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: you could thank me you wrote and friends, that was

710
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 4: somebody else's whole song, like that was just a whole

711
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 4: nother song or somebody did they just redid the song.

712
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: Did do the same numbers?

713
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: Like yeah, yes, your number on the greatest of all times.

714
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 4: And when you say when you when you talk about

715
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: like a hit maker or the dream remember.

716
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: What?

717
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: So so, no one no one just ever publicly come

718
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: on black, you can't fuck with me, man, No one

719
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 3: has ever publicly thanked you on the War Show, social media.

720
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: Nothing never do y'all see me on BT, do y'all

721
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: see me? They don't even I ain't even got the

722
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 4: chance to present. They don't even let me present.

723
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. Yeah, you know what I mean.

724
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: But it's just what anybody ever call you and thank you,

725
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: oh man, because they don't want to say it. It's okay,

726
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: Why do you think so let's think this looking to

727
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: the bottom of this. Why do you think it's so?

728
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like anything else.

729
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: It's just like you know, because he because you ain't

730
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: casching nobody ass bro. It's like I'm not I'm here

731
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: to do my job.

732
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm here.

733
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 4: I'm here for you to appreciate my If I if

734
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: I give you my heart and you don't appreciate my heart,

735
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 4: am I supposed to argue with you about that? No,

736
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: I just gotta I just gotta look at you. I

737
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: just gotta look at you every time I see you,

738
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 4: and I see you.

739
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this.

740
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: In a in a in a working relationship, and in

741
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 6: a business setting. If I give you my heart and

742
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 6: I see this you don't appreciate it, does that mean okay, hey,

743
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 6: you didn't appreciate my heart the first time I gave

744
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 6: it to you, So I'm not gonna fuck with you anymore?

745
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 6: Or does that mean that I gave you my heart

746
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 6: you didn't appreciate it. I'm just gonna continue to work

747
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 6: with you because we do good business together. But with

748
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 6: the realization that you don't appreciate your heart, We're just.

749
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: Doing business, that's more.

750
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: And I don't even I don't even make it a

751
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: point of even bitching about it. It's just like, it's

752
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: just it. I wouldn't be human because I am a person.

753
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: I'm emotional. I'm a person that definitely have emotions, and

754
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: I really give a fuck about people.

755
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I know what it hurts

756
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 5: when they don't give that same fun back.

757
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely pisses you.

758
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: It definitely fucks with you at some point because it's like,

759
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: and then when you see the I'm saying, people struggling

760
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: like they're struggling, like they think they're fooling us. But

761
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: we know your last outing wasn't what that other shit was,

762
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 4: So your ego gonna kill you. That's why I don't

763
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: worry about it. Don't bother me. It's like, we all

764
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 4: heard the album, we heard the ship. It didn't it

765
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: ain't it now? Now you got to figure that out.

766
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, but the next time, if

767
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 4: you decide to be a next time, or if I'm around,

768
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 4: then we'll make sure that motherfucker shit makes sense on paper.

769
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: What happened with the weapon you had to did for us?

770
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: Why they make the album? Uh?

771
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: Man?

772
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: The uh yeah that I was.

773
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: I was a little pissed off about that too, the

774
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: uh the Glue record, because yeah, I mean man, I

775
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: feel like we brought Usher back with that song for sure,

776
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: Like that was the one song that really connected and

777
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: resonated with the community in reference to who Usher really is,

778
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 4: his true essence, his performing ability.

779
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: You know, he was in he was in you know,

780
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: he was out in.

781
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: M in Vegas doing his doing this thing, you know,

782
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: and he had went through all of the things that

783
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: he went through.

784
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't leave my brother's side, you know what

785
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

786
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: I went out to shout out to my brother the

787
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: Veiler brothers, and me and Little John and the Valor

788
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: brothers went out there to Vegas and and and and

789
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: was determined and and me personally, I was really the.

790
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: Only one that really wanted to do it.

791
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: People was like, fuck that, you know what I'm saying.

792
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: But I love my brother, you know what I'm saying.

793
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: And it's just like for the ship not to be

794
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: on the album, like and the album wasn't I mean,

795
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 4: what see that kind of shit right there? You're saying

796
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: like the al will doodle I said, I know that

797
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: our made confessions, you know what I'm saying. And for me,

798
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: for me, that ain't a win for us. That's the

799
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: whole point. That's where her coming at. It's like, cause

800
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: niggas is calling my phone asking me why man, what

801
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: the fuck going on?

802
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: Sean?

803
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: Like, who make that call?

804
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: If you had to get I mean, it's the team,

805
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: you know, you know at this point, you know, it's

806
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: just his own boss, you know what I mean, and

807
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: the other powers that be, you know, they make their decisions.

808
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 4: And you know, unfortunately that's the difference between working your

809
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: own project and being an artist and then giving things

810
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: away to people. You know what I'm saying, because in

811
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: those deals, you give them the opportunity and the rights

812
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: to be able to uh place that master wherever they

813
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: want to, right, And that's what you learn about the business.

814
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: And so you have to understand the difference, right, and

815
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: you have to also build a tough skin to understand

816
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: that everything ain't gonna work the way you want it

817
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: to work. You know, you would hope to have the

818
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: influence on people that you can, but unfortunately it's just

819
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: not that. It's just not that's just the way it

820
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 4: goes sometimes. And so you know, it's just like being

821
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 4: in being in the league and getting traded. You know

822
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It's like, Damn, y'all ain't gonna give

823
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: what's my man that just left Golden State. Y'all ain't

824
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: gonna get clear motherfucker check Clay, help y'all wear in

825
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: full rings, Like, come on, man.

826
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: No folks feel like Clay, we paid for what you did.

827
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: But at the same time, to to to to screams

828
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: to screams points when he was asking, well, Sean, do

829
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: you feel like sometimes stylists that style people right, should

830
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: they get the same you know, love and respect on stage.

831
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: It's like it's a difference when a person helps change

832
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: your life and keep your lights on, that's different and

833
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 4: that's a lot of itself. If you do that too,

834
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 4: how long do you give gratitude to that? Though it's

835
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: forever gratitude, but how long do you allow, like.

836
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: Clay, if you don't fit the team. For the price

837
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: that it don't fit, Bro, you.

838
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 7: Gotta business rights, Like we're gonna forever be grateful for

839
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 7: what you've done, But what can you do?

840
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: That's all Like, that's why you're dropping his album because like,

841
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: y'all know what I done did, But I'm gonna show

842
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: y'all what I do steal. Yeah, you get what I'm saying.

843
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: And that's where it's at. Man. It's like you know,

844
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's I just think that.

845
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: I think the I think my community, I think people

846
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 4: like y'all, I think all the DJs.

847
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: Man. You know, it's been a journey, like you know.

848
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: Also, uh you know, like break up, Breakup was my

849
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: first single off my album.

850
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

851
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 4: I shared that record with Mario. He's in trouble, you

852
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I shared that song with him,

853
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: Like that was my song. Y'all hear the song? That's me,

854
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So you know, it's just like, Bro,

855
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: you never brought me out one time. You never brought

856
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: me out one show to.

857
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Perform to figure it out? It got it? I don't

858
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: know what it is. I'll tell you what it is.

859
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: It's just doing something. What is that you're doing?

860
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm being me man, you know, And but you

861
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: know what, life's a journey and like's a marathon, you know.

862
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 4: And the same love that you don't get initially, eventually

863
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: a person to love you, they're gonna have to show

864
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: it to you.

865
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real with you.

866
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 7: You know what, a lot of people hate when you're good,

867
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 7: and you know you con A lot of people hate

868
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 7: that ship. You know how good you are for real

869
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 7: and you want to be treated that way. They hate

870
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 7: you for that. Like like you speaking numbers, like a

871
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 7: lot of numbers that I didn't know, you know.

872
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

873
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 7: A lot of people that I'm looking at like that

874
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 7: they making hits. You're saying they ain't even made.

875
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: The charts, so like they're making they making the charts black,

876
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 4: but they doing like they talking about there's a difference

877
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 4: in an R and B top five and a hot

878
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 4: one hundred number one.

879
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: Okay, you understand what I'm saying.

880
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: Just because they're playing the Ship on the radio, my nigga, Like,

881
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: don't get that shit confused with like I'm talking about

882
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: that motherfucker that go bean that I'm talking about, that

883
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: being circling around. Yeah, that that circle like the bean,

884
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: like that tone, like you know what I mean, you

885
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 4: know what that's a hum and then it's a motherfucking thing.

886
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 4: It's two different.

887
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: But you speaking, you were speaking, you were speaking about

888
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: God's work, right, don't you think that that synergy of

889
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: if you give yeah to I don't know, make up

890
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: an artist's name, verse giving it to Usher like you

891
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 3: gave yeah to Usher. You're saying the Usher is talented, right,

892
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: So say if you give that to another artist, because

893
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: you obviously giving records to artists, Like I said, I

894
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: could have give yeah to more.

895
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 8: Fucking uh uh, what's one man the same I could

896
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 8: That ship just stimulated had the same effect.

897
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: I could have gave you to Chris Brown. Yeah yeah,

898
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: but it just all made sense that the record made

899
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: so much. Yea Atlantic record, But it was created for

900
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: him When you asked that question, Oh yeah, man, but

901
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: it was created for him. Like it's just like you said,

902
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: can he wear craft? It was crafted for him.

903
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 5: So almost fit. It was tailored, so you.

904
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: Have to tailor it for Chris Brown.

905
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: If you'd have made it from Chris Brown, I sat

906
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 4: in the studio for eight hours to wait for us

907
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: to come downstairs. Okay, I went out to his house

908
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: two twice for people to tell me.

909
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: That I'm going to ruin his career. Mm hmm, okay,

910
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: you really want me to? Yeah, tell you what I went.

911
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: I went through it. I went through it. Yeah.

912
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 4: Now, all these other people, now, these people that's talking

913
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: about the song, all they didn't do that.

914
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: They wouldn't these people won't fuck with me? Is that

915
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: his biggest record? The biggest is one of black music's

916
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: biggest record ever. Did y'all see the super Bowl? That

917
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: was the biggest song of the super Bowl.

918
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the biggest song our generation. Let's stop playing

919
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 4: this fucking thriller. One of the greatest albums ever. Yes

920
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 4: it is, y'all tell me a black song bigger than Yeah.

921
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: Just tell me on the charts. We can't ship blew

922
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: the charts up. Bro. It stopped the music, stopped the

923
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: music world. It changed the way music sounded. The fight

924
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: to get him his biggest record.

925
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: Imagine if that was you, black big black bank. Come

926
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: on now, come on now, so let.

927
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 5: Me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

928
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 6: Since we're talking about records and handcraft and all that

929
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 6: kind of stuff. With you being a triple threat of

930
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 6: a producer, a songwriter, and an artist, how do you

931
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 6: make the determination as to whether or not you're going

932
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 6: to keep a record for yourself or whether or not

933
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 6: you're gonna give it away to someone else? Like, what

934
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 6: what makes you? What makes that determination for you? When

935
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 6: you're creating them, you're a process.

936
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: A lot of times if they don't take it, to

937
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: be very honest, if I was to be so, you.

938
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 5: Normally give it away first, and then if.

939
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: They don't get drafted for them generally, you know what

940
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

941
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: So it's not like it's not like I just write

942
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: records and they be sitting around generally unless I'm just

943
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 4: in that mode.

944
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: But I generally don't be in that mode.

945
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 5: Because your shit is basically cook the order.

946
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: Every day I work, every day, I create a song

947
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: every day of my life, you know what I'm saying,

948
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 4: Whether I'm creating for me or Jimmy or Shirley or so,

949
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: it's just like and so I get you know, like

950
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 4: I might go work.

951
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: I might go work with Beyonce and do seven records.

952
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 4: Generally she takes the seven records like I went to

953
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: go work on Desty's for Phil Dusty shaw last album.

954
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: And I went there to do one song and that

955
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: first song was is She the Reason? Is She the

956
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: reason you like you used to?

957
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: And the second song doing was girl you need? These

958
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: are classics like ladies and gentlemen? Can we stop playing?

959
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: Like? Can we fucking quit? Like? Are y'all serious? I mean,

960
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: y'all want me to look? Are y'all? I said? Girl?

961
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: I said, is she the reason? Dunn down? Nfe wonder

962
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: what we're talking about.

963
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: I ain't talking my soldiers when we took the girls

964
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: from the pop chicks to the streets.

965
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: If the standards ain't the handchacking from what we're talking about,

966
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: can you keep up? Come on, y'all, Bam bam band,

967
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: Come on, dog, ain't do it all that you did?

968
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: Come on, be cock. I ain't even but it's just saying.

969
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 5: That's why in the beginning I read all that ship.

970
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 6: Out because like he's just sitting here like Sean, like

971
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 6: this nigga is Big Sean, Like for real, this.

972
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: Nigga shuttle big Shine?

973
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: Which one is big Shine.

974
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 7: To which one of these new artists that you see

975
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 7: like in this in this era that you feel like

976
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 7: I can craft them something like.

977
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been a couple of young artists that

978
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: I'm working on right now that like it's this young

979
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: kid named my Low that's on Black Ground. I'm gonna

980
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: play this song before I leave. You're talking about some

981
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: rn B ship, yo, he like he like Bobby Brown

982
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: meets Bobby will Matck for real, shout be on that

983
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 4: type of ship, young nigga ship. Like females, all the

984
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 4: females in the world that do music, ask them about

985
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: Sean Garrett.

986
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: Ask them all the females, all y'all females out here

987
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: that want to do songs. Do you guys want to

988
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: work with me? Ask them? Do you want to work

989
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: with me? Or do you work with him? Ask him?

990
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: Has Sean Garrett ever been in a studio session or

991
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: studio set and created or thought about creating with Future?

992
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 4: Oh man, Future is one of my favorite artists, No bullshit.

993
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, shout out to my man

994
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: Mike will with me and Future. Yeah, me and Future

995
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: got a chance to work one time. We did a

996
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: song actually that was on my album set, the video

997
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 4: and on everything. I just never never would never put

998
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: it out. But Future is probably one of the smartest.

999
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: He probably one of the smartest artists. He is. He

1000
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: is the ship, Like I mean, he he really understands

1001
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 4: his brand, understands what to say, he unders.

1002
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: Dances not.

1003
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: To be Yeah, and you know, game recognized game, you

1004
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like creative, Like there's a lot

1005
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 4: of people like I know I have may have said

1006
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: some things in reference to like shit I don't like,

1007
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: but let me tell you the ship I do. Like,

1008
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 4: there's such a great amount of geniuses that I really

1009
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: really respect and fuck with, but he's definitely one of them.

1010
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: Of Course I love Kendrick Lamar, I love Drake nobody else.

1011
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: I think he's a fucking genius. Like, he's a fucking genius.

1012
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: J Cole.

1013
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 4: Producers, I mean, of course my man shout Out Bangladesh

1014
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 4: is one of my favorite producers of all time. Swiss

1015
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: Beat of course, uh Timblin of course. Missy Elliott is

1016
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: like one of my inspirations. You know what I'm saying.

1017
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: As a creative I was able, you know, to take

1018
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: a lot of these jewels and.

1019
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: What these people did. They impacted my life.

1020
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 4: So much, you know, even from like New addition, Velvet

1021
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: de Vaux the streets. You know what I mean, you

1022
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: just talk about I love uh Dillo. I just think

1023
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 4: he's fucking amazing.

1024
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: Just his just his his cadence, his approach, you know,

1025
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: he his. I don't give a fuck this. You know.

1026
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: I love what the girls are doing. You know that the.

1027
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 4: Girls are going crazy? You know Uh Lorella, I love her,

1028
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: I love all the girls. I'm just happy to see

1029
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 4: the women just doing what they're doing. You know what

1030
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's you can take your pick. I love

1031
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: the new JT record. I fucking love j Crazy Snow.

1032
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: I just I just love our culture. I really do.

1033
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: So.

1034
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: You've been in the game twenty years, twenty one years, right,

1035
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: twenty years? How do you avoid like you know what?

1036
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 4: It never It never was attractive to me, you know,

1037
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: the weird ship which is never attracted to me.

1038
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: You've been even knowing me? You ever know me?

1039
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: I just never really gave a funk about trying to

1040
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: be seen or or trying trying to fit in, trying

1041
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 4: to be liked.

1042
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm trying to be anything.

1043
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: Just my damn self, you know what I'm saying, Because

1044
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 4: I'm not good at being other things besides myself.

1045
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: You know, I don't you know.

1046
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: Anything else.

1047
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 7: A lot of niggas is good are being comedians and

1048
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 7: changing theyself for other people.

1049
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: A lot of niggas is good.

1050
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 5: That s it don't last for long.

1051
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 4: And I think that's the thing that people don't understand about.

1052
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 4: This is the part that people don't understand about hit

1053
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: makers and songwriters. Those chameleons have to come back to

1054
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: a source, a ground source, to get some new ship.

1055
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 4: To get that ship, that's where people getting.

1056
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 5: Get a new costume or a new suit.

1057
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: That's what people get fucked up. When you come outside.

1058
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 4: You have to show the fuck up and show the

1059
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: fuck out. I don't give a fuck about all that talking.

1060
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: Is that ship it?

1061
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: When I had the press play, I asked my brothers

1062
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 4: sisters to come and hear my ship my album before

1063
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: I even had the interview, because it comes with a

1064
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 4: different respect.

1065
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: Bangers too. When you hear them motherfuckers. You know what

1066
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1067
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: When that ship, when you press play, all that talking

1068
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 4: and ship, all that what your name is? And you

1069
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: this and no no, no bro, because your ship just

1070
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 4: playing on the radio. You you walk around telling people

1071
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 4: what it is. They should be telling you what the

1072
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: fuck it is. I wait for the people to tell me,

1073
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 4: Oh damn, Sean, your song going crazy?

1074
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh you like it? I appreciate that it's not supposed

1075
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: to work.

1076
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 7: Let's get into the album. What you got on them?

1077
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 7: Well I heard it, but you know, letting people know

1078
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 7: what we got on them?

1079
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: What that ships like? Smacking? You feel smacking?

1080
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 7: Even a play like you saying like these this album

1081
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 7: because they hard when singles ready to go though, yes, sir, uh, Well, listen,

1082
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 7: ladies and gentlemen, like I'm really really excited about my

1083
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 7: album this. This is the first opportunity I would I

1084
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 7: would say that you're getting a chance to get me.

1085
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Me as a man, me

1086
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 4: and me as a struggle, Me as the vulnerable, the

1087
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: vulnerable brother that talks about his pain and talks about

1088
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: his uh inability sometime to understand what I'm supposed to

1089
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 4: understand when it comes to relationships and love and.

1090
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: My struggle. You know what I'm saying.

1091
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 4: I talked about I talk about what my mental struggle was,

1092
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: and a lot of men need that, you know, some

1093
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: of some of us need the confirmation to knowing Like, damn, bro,

1094
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 4: I'm going through.

1095
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: That same moment.

1096
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay to talk about it, you know what

1097
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like when we talk about mental health, you know,

1098
00:53:53,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: Like my second single it's called Girlfriend featuring Uhpliza Huncho, motherfucker.

1099
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: You feel me.

1100
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: But that's a record for us, that's a record for

1101
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 4: our sisters and our brothers, and basically that record talks about, uh,

1102
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 4: the struggle of like being misled.

1103
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: It's like, damn baby, you told me, you told me

1104
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: that you had me. You know what I'm saying.

1105
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: You told me you had my back. You told me

1106
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: you wanted to get to call me. You know what

1107
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And through all this ship, whatever the happens,

1108
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 4: we're supposed to you know what. Yeah, but now you

1109
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 4: got them. You're trying to you the turbulence to the car.

1110
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: They God, damn, you're trying to jump out the car,

1111
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 4: out the carboard, you know what I like. Now, Now

1112
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 4: now it's turbulence, right, And I'm trying to maintain. I'm

1113
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 4: trying to maintain I'm only one man, I'm only one.

1114
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 4: I'm only a human.

1115
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know I'm Superman. I

1116
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: know I'm.

1117
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 4: Superman, but I'm a human, you know what I'm saying.

1118
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: So you know, you know a lot of these everybody's different.

1119
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1120
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 4: Some people play the streaming games, some people play the

1121
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 4: numbers game. You know me, I played the real game.

1122
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 4: I just talk about what the fuck I really feel, really,

1123
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: and you either like it or you don't, you know

1124
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: what I mean. And I'm hoping that you like it.

1125
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 4: But that's what my album's about, you know what I'm saying.

1126
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 4: And they're gonna fuck with in the clubs for show dj's'

1127
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 4: offen the fuck with it.

1128
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: I like that record with Jahck cueson on that one.

1129
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: I like them.

1130
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, that's the one we jumping out the goddamn

1131
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 4: we're jumping out to playing with that one. First, shout

1132
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 4: out my Black Queen. Shout out my boy Keys. I

1133
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 4: did a lot of.

1134
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: The album with my boy Keys.

1135
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah Man Keys and Ship, my engineer and executive producer

1136
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 4: does shout out my damn manager Kenny Cole, my brother

1137
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 4: Bobby Jack, who always got down got my back. I'm

1138
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 4: just shout out my label, Blackground Warner, all the people

1139
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: that just support my music.

1140
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 5: Bro.

1141
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm saying, like when people ask me,

1142
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 4: like some people say some stupid shit sometimes like man, Sean,

1143
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 4: you're still doing this shit, man, why are you putting

1144
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: an album out?

1145
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: Like Nigga.

1146
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 4: I was an artist who I gave y'all year before

1147
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 4: I gave y'all this and that and this and that.

1148
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: I was an artist. But I would have to be

1149
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: patient also.

1150
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: To get my shit right right because all of these projects,

1151
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 4: when artists put the albums together, they take time to

1152
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 4: put them shit together. You know, they got a team,

1153
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: they got a label, they got you know, they got

1154
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: all these different they got agents, they have all these

1155
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 4: different things, and it takes time.

1156
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: To build those things in those relationships. You know.

1157
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 4: That's the one hard part. I would say, if you

1158
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 4: ask me, like, what was the most difficult thing about

1159
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 4: the success? Not knowing who these people were. That was

1160
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: probably the most difficult thing, because I didn't know who

1161
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: I was talking to when it came down to radio

1162
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: or what a radio promo person, what it did, and

1163
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 4: when it came to different tiers of what they did

1164
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: versus how the record label works and the person that

1165
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 4: runs radio from the label to the independent independence, independent

1166
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: promoters to the radio you know. All of that shit

1167
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: was very complicated when you don't know, and then so

1168
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna make those mistakes and you're gonna have those

1169
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 4: inconsistencies when you have those inconsistencies of like, hey man,

1170
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 4: well why this record, Sean, why would you put your

1171
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: Inkwell album out? You know you had? I mean, I

1172
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: paid for all of my videos with me and Nicki

1173
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: Minaj shout out Nicki Minaj's Get It All or Me,

1174
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: Gucci and Tiger with she Geek or or.

1175
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: Me and.

1176
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 4: Jacob phil Love. I had a version with Drake on

1177
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 4: air as well. I had all these different features I had.

1178
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: I created this album, I had all these videos. I

1179
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 4: spend three hundred thousand dollars a fucking video. You're thinking

1180
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 4: that that's the right thing to do, but you're not

1181
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 4: understanding how to intricately put those songs in motion in

1182
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 4: the system. So a lot of this ship is learning

1183
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: the system. How do you pick who you work with?

1184
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: Is like, how do you pick who you work with?

1185
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 5: Uh?

1186
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 4: I be inspired? Like I'm a I'm a I'm a

1187
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: very uh on pissy.

1188
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: So I'm very.

1189
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: Discerning, you know, selective, yeah, and selective based on a

1190
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: person's energy and their heart and the realness, you know

1191
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, I just like real shit, you

1192
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And sometimes you know, you know

1193
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: you're doing some pop shit sometimes, you know what I'm saying.

1194
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 4: Like when I work with Enrique Glacis, that was that

1195
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 4: was amazing, you know what I mean, Like he was

1196
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: but you know what, He's a good example of somebody

1197
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 4: that was really.

1198
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: Kind to me.

1199
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 5: Was it like a breath of fresh air?

1200
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 4: It really was? Like when I work with Enrique I did.

1201
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: I did the Milo which was number one for thirteen

1202
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: weeks on a Latin Hot one hundred charts.

1203
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: Another one right, My people don't even know I did that,

1204
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean?

1205
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: Where you get to compare.

1206
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 7: To you know who on your whistling is like Sean

1207
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 7: Glary Richly, I would work with this person, but I

1208
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 7: ain't got a change.

1209
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 4: A lot of the newer artists that's out now, man, Man,

1210
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 4: it's some dope ass I like. Uh man, I like

1211
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: so many different artists out man, that's a that's a

1212
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 4: great question. So I just had a brain last with

1213
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 4: so many of them that's out a lot of the

1214
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: newer artists that that are out. I really like that

1215
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: they're very different.

1216
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: But there's a.

1217
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 4: There's a difficult part with some artists when it comes

1218
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 4: to writing their music and making hits. So you got

1219
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 4: to understand what that what it is that they want, right,

1220
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 4: Because I'm a hit maker, so I'm probably going to

1221
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 4: be looking at it completely different than being.

1222
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: A creative and just making music. You're yeah, and and

1223
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: and and and intentional.

1224
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 4: Like if I'm coming in to do something, it's it's

1225
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 4: it's an intent.

1226
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: Right. We have to score, right if I'm that's what

1227
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: I want to do.

1228
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 5: If my name is attached to this, it has to go.

1229
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to score, right, because not only when you

1230
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 4: score do you help yourself, but you help your community,

1231
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 4: you help the world, you help you there's something that

1232
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: you've given more to the world when there's a score, Right,

1233
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 4: when there's a win, it's like, damn, it's something to

1234
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 4: take from that, right. But if it was just something

1235
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 4: that just goes on deaf ears, it's just like, well,

1236
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 4: what was the point of the effort? Right, And so

1237
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: my perspective is just always like what's the intent, what's

1238
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 4: the purpose, and what's the point, And not to be

1239
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 4: complicated about it. It's just I just choose to make

1240
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 4: my life simple and the things I like to do are.

1241
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: To be doing something with an.

1242
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 4: Intent, and anything outside of that it just doesn't matter

1243
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: to me because it's just so many other things that's

1244
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: going on that I gotta worry about.

1245
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to.

1246
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: I don't have really time for that. So I've just

1247
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: made my life about my kids, my family, my work,

1248
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 4: and my community. And outside of that, I don't have

1249
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 4: time for the bullshit. I don't have time to be

1250
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 4: fighting with nobody and got time to be arguing with motherfuckers.

1251
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: I don't got time for none of that shit.

1252
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: And if it seems like it's that, I just get

1253
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: the fuck out the way because it's just like, what's

1254
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: the purpose of like arguing, you know what I mean?

1255
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck are we arguing about?

1256
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 4: It's like, are we trying to come up with something

1257
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 4: that's going to help us get to another space, whether

1258
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 4: we're gonna make some more money or we're gonna build

1259
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 4: each other up, we're gonna help each other win. I'm

1260
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 4: with that type of ship, you know what I mean?

1261
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 6: But I said I love I want to talk to

1262
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 6: you about speaking of family and mind frame and mindset

1263
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 6: or whatever. You recently did something with the Boys and

1264
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 6: Girls Club about mental health, so I want you to

1265
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 6: speak on that, and then I also want you to

1266
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 6: speak on the other philanthropic things that you've been doing,

1267
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 6: like while we've been missing you or whatever.

1268
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: Oh good, it's great, sho. Well.

1269
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: The Girls and Boys Club was was really an instrumental

1270
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 4: in my life because I went to the Boys and

1271
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 4: Girls Club when I was like five and six years old,

1272
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 4: and my mom I used to I used to come

1273
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 4: home and be crying and ship every day that I

1274
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: went to the boys because that ship was rough as fuck,

1275
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 4: like them, like ship when when.

1276
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: I was in the Boys and Girls to do it

1277
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: like them a little more. Boy, I'm a little hard.

1278
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm hard. I should have got Boys and Girls clubs

1279
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: where I learned how to.

1280
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: Be a motherfucker man for real, because you get beat

1281
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 4: up in there and they have your ass and that yo,

1282
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm for real.

1283
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: It's like ship.

1284
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 4: You volunteer should be like one hundred little boys in

1285
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 4: that motherfucking they and you and they be. I used

1286
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 4: to be like, damn, they're watching us like it's the

1287
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 4: motherfuckers and they watching us, like, and you've been there

1288
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: and you feel like you're in prison.

1289
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: Man.

1290
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 4: It's like they've been having they got ship. They got

1291
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 4: this big room with the the the the soft mats

1292
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 4: on the floor, and niggas are fighting, I mean.

1293
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 5: And no help, nobody's coming there.

1294
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 4: You're like, man, every day until I got until I

1295
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 4: had to start. I had to whoop whoop a couple

1296
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: of niggas. I had to whoop some ass in there.

1297
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 4: Then they start calling me muscle man. You know what

1298
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: I mean with ship, So that whenever when they mentioned

1299
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 4: Boys and Girls Club, I'm fucking with that one hundred

1300
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 4: percent because it's like a lot of these kids, you know,

1301
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: that's what they first learned. That's where they had their

1302
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 4: first fight. That's where they get jumped on first. That's

1303
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 4: when you learn to become You got to stand for yourself,

1304
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1305
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: And that's the community, you know.

1306
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 4: So you know, and and when it comes to like

1307
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 4: my album, another thing, you know, I wanted to share

1308
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 4: my album with my community, Like I was saying that,

1309
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 4: like some artists are like streaming the artists. I'm a

1310
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 4: community artist, you know what I'm saying, Meaning like I'm

1311
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 4: the guy next door, meaning.

1312
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 5: Like grassroots, ground based.

1313
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: I want to play my show on the radio.

1314
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: I want you to see me down there at the

1315
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 4: V one O three ship they do every year one

1316
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 4: O seven nine ninety four five birthday bash show.

1317
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: That's just that's what you know what I mean.

1318
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 4: The grocery store, that's me, you know what I'm saying.

1319
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 4: And I'm a build from there. So you can get

1320
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 4: to know me and you know the type of person

1321
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 4: I am.

1322
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: And so that's so uh that's that's a big part

1323
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: of what my album is about.

1324
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: Boys and club, boys and girls club. It's still community.

1325
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 4: Anything that's got something to do with the communitybody that

1326
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: know me. I've been a part of the community. I've

1327
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: always talked with the DJ supported Yeah, I've always I've

1328
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 4: always helped a lot of people, have employed a lot

1329
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 4: of people. I just never really talked about ship. You

1330
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It wasn't about talking about it.

1331
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 5: It's just about doing it.

1332
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And so philanthropically.

1333
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 4: Uh So, I got this thing called that I'm doing

1334
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 4: called Smash on the Radio University, and basically Smash on

1335
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 4: the Radio University is just gonna be like, well, I

1336
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: do seminars, and I really help kids and young producers

1337
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 4: and young songwriters, young artists, just music business one on one.

1338
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying from the perspective of like

1339
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 4: ground roots understanding the breakdown to where you have like

1340
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 4: a little manual you can go in reference, you can

1341
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 4: have something you can look at, or you can go

1342
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 4: you know online, and I'm gonna have a subscription based

1343
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 4: program that you can go have answer some of these

1344
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 4: questions to kind of lease give you some sort of

1345
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 4: understand today. Not like one of those music one on

1346
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: one books that you got to go read in the library.

1347
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 4: But this is like some today shit, you know what

1348
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like the shit we go through, the shit

1349
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to figure out now based on like

1350
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 4: streaming versus like what the radio, because some people will

1351
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: say shit to you, Like like this business is really

1352
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 4: based on what people have to say, right, And so

1353
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 4: it's like if some people say that radio don't matter

1354
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 4: no more, and I'd be like, that's fucking crazy.

1355
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: Radio do matter. The radio is the community.

1356
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,959
Speaker 4: Like if there was a tornado today, more people gonna

1357
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 4: find out that ain't got phones. What the fuck's going

1358
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 4: on on the radio? You know what I'm saying. In

1359
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 4: our community. Of course, now if you want these savvy

1360
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 4: tech people and you got you got a phone, you're

1361
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 4: gonna find a shit on your on your phone too.

1362
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 4: But if your phone happened to not be working the radio,

1363
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 4: to me, I feel like still speaks to our community.

1364
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1365
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: Everybody ain't you know when you go into some of

1366
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 4: these hoods man ship there, I ain't got no computer,

1367
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Everybody, Some people no smartphone.

1368
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 4: People ain't got no phone, you know what I mean.

1369
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 4: And so that ship, that shit still matters to me,

1370
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like, right down here, my

1371
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 4: mom had a trailer. We lived in a trailer right

1372
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 4: down here on the north side, right across the street.

1373
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 4: I just went to the to the corner store. I

1374
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 4: was like, damn man.

1375
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: When I was about four years old, I used to

1376
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: live right down there, you know what I'm saying.

1377
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 4: And it was a It was an old man at

1378
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 4: the at the gas station and he was like, hey,

1379
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 4: young blad.

1380
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: You know. Uh.

1381
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 4: He asked me could I could he get a dollar?

1382
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 4: When I went in the store, I didn't have no

1383
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 4: cash on when I came out gave some money. He said, hey, man,

1384
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 4: you know, if you ever uh, if you have over here, man,

1385
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 4: you need you need somebody to pump your gas.

1386
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: You know, I do it for you. Man, I love

1387
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: to do it for you.

1388
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 4: But what that meant to me, That meant that meant

1389
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: a lot to me because he could have just said

1390
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 4: thank you and that's that that.

1391
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: But he said, hey, man, I could do something for

1392
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: you for giving me this dollar.

1393
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 4: This.

1394
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 5: I don't want you to just give me a handout.

1395
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, man, like that's the kind of

1396
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 4: ship that still matters. And so what I realized what

1397
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 4: I do is I'm an interpreter. So when I write songs,

1398
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: my songs just don't be about my perspective, my my

1399
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 4: My songs be about me. And you may have a

1400
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 4: conversation about you know, your your you and your wife, bro.

1401
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 4: Or I might be telling you like, man, damn, but man,

1402
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 4: my son acting crazy. The motherfucker you got you gotta

1403
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 4: sign and we can and we can have dialogue about that.

1404
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 4: We can learn from man. Well, you know I did

1405
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 4: this with my son, and I taught him this way.

1406
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 4: I can learn something from that.

1407
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: And that's gonna help me. That's just that's that's that's

1408
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: how I write songs.

1409
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 4: The creativity, yeah man, and it's just it just helps

1410
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 4: us be you know what I mean.

1411
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 5: And it translates your environment.

1412
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 4: It translates, it translates everything. You know, it helps you understand.

1413
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 4: That's why, you know, I would like to explain to

1414
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 4: young people who like to create and be creative writers,

1415
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 4: that's a talent that imagine. I mean, you can make

1416
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 4: not only can you make it, you could be the next.

1417
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 4: You can write, you can write TV shows.

1418
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1419
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 5: I learned.

1420
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 4: I learned the process of how to write songs. Then

1421
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 4: then I got good at it. I wasn't always that

1422
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 4: good at it. I just had to learn how to

1423
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 4: ship worked. Once I realized how to work, then now

1424
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 4: now I'm thinking, hey, I.

1425
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: Can go write a movie.

1426
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 4: I knew I could write a movie when I was

1427
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 4: in your movie.

1428
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1429
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: Uh, I was like, man, damn, I could write a movie.

1430
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. There was an inspiration that

1431
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: was inspiring just your life.

1432
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 4: Like it's like like like I'm here because I want

1433
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 4: to be here, Like I wanted to do this show,

1434
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? This show is important in

1435
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 4: our community and our culture, like we all are a

1436
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 4: part of this community. And the fact that y'all respect

1437
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 4: me enough to even allow me to be on your

1438
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 4: platform and tell my story.

1439
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. You know, the s the big Shine.

1440
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 3: Get that ship fucked up, Big Facts, Big factspod dot

1441
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 3: com running.

1442
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, back and talking about the fact of the album.

1443
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 4: Man, we got to man, and you know, yeah, we

1444
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 4: just got you know, once I get started, ain't gonna stop.

1445
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's just gonna be single after single after single.

1446
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: And you know, for.

1447
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 4: All the people out there, you know, back open for business.

1448
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 5: Boy.

1449
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying that hard drive, man, come on,

1450
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 7: you know.

1451
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, I'm really inspired man about just this

1452
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 4: new generation of artists and because they really wanted That's

1453
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 4: what I really like about it. It's like they're hungry.

1454
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 4: They have seen some of the successes of what has

1455
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 4: came before them, man, and they inspired about it. They

1456
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 4: you know, that's what I love. I could see it,

1457
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 4: I feel it. I feel it from them. And you

1458
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 4: know the hard part sometimes is like you wanting to

1459
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 4: tell them, especially the artists, man, you'd be like, don't

1460
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 4: do that, just don't do that because and I know

1461
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta manager in your ear, or even

1462
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 4: the songwriting producers, because they'll, you know, someone be sitting

1463
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 4: me beats. They send me beats, They send me beats

1464
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 4: and be like, damn Sean, like you ain't fucking with

1465
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 4: none of them beats. And then that's another conversation I

1466
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 4: gotta have with him. It's like, because it's an intent,

1467
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,520
Speaker 4: I'm not just writing those songs.

1468
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 1: We gotta be intent, Like if Chris Brown needs a record,

1469
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: we have to outdo every song that he's getting that has.

1470
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 4: A that's the intent. We can't just go do some

1471
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 4: do a fucking song. I don't do themse type of songs.

1472
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 7: Just because I'm I gotta come with that motherfucker when

1473
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,440
Speaker 7: my prins play.

1474
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna get judged on a whole nother level

1475
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: of anybody being average.

1476
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:52,879
Speaker 5: You're not regular.

1477
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: So that's what the shipper flood. Niggas go to see

1478
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: him lose, don't go to see you.

1479
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 4: They don't want to see me wear no more. Can

1480
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 4: answer your question. They tired of a nigga winning. To

1481
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 4: be honest, it's like, oh, he keeps talking about no

1482
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 4: So I've had people say, you know Sean's gonna tell

1483
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 4: you how many number ones it got.

1484
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: Apps A fucking look, right, and.

1485
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 5: The next time you see me, I should have another one.

1486
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just had another one with you know, Shout

1487
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 4: out to Summer Walker. You know that we executive produced

1488
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 4: her last album. You know what I'm saying. Went through

1489
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 4: the roof. Y'all saw the billboard in New York City,

1490
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Shout out lvr N.

1491
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: You know. But I don't even talk about.

1492
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 5: I don't talk about the number two Amber.

1493
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: Shout out to Amber. Yeah, the whole crew over there.

1494
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 4: But now I don't talk about the number five's and

1495
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 4: the number tens and the eighteens.

1496
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 6: I was just.

1497
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: To you know what I mean, DJ playing love song.

1498
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 4: You know, I was just talking like girl the other

1499
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 4: day and she was like, you know, I do know

1500
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 4: she's like my favorite, my favorite.

1501
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: What's my man's name? Forgot his name? Get to another story.

1502
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: I will come back to that. I probably shouldn't mention

1503
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: him anyway.

1504
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 4: But for the part say that, but you know some

1505
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 4: of some some people don't know I did UH one twelve,

1506
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 4: ask no questions, PAPAA mean know Gina, you did that?

1507
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: Yep? Uh DJ player love song.

1508
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 4: I'm it'so a ton of songs that you know, we're

1509
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 4: like number two's and number five, so you know, I

1510
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 4: just love it. Man, some people don't know idea papers

1511
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 4: m hm uh married joblige, Yeah, married oblige.

1512
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:50,480
Speaker 1: Enough crying, I've done enough crying at a lot of records.

1513
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 4: But it's a It's a beautiful thing, and I don't

1514
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 4: have nothing negative to say about none of the To

1515
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 4: even go back to the conversation about Dream or any

1516
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: of my other competitors when I'm on to feel I'm competing,

1517
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 4: you know, it's a sport to me, you know what

1518
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 4: I mean. So I'm definitely gonna talk my ship and

1519
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 4: I'm a stand on business, you know. But you know,

1520
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 4: shout out to hit Maker and the Dream and all

1521
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 4: the songwriters and producers because we all a community of

1522
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 4: greats working towards the same role, you know what I mean,

1523
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 4: and that is to show the world our talent and

1524
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 4: keep keep winning, you know what I'm saying, And pushing

1525
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 4: the narrative, pushing the culture. But I'm really happy about

1526
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 4: where music is. It's starting to feel real good again.

1527
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 4: Like I feel like I feel like R and B

1528
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 4: is on its way back in a real way. I

1529
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 4: feel like it's really great that the girls are really

1530
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 4: competing at a certain level. I think it's really great.

1531
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 4: The Kendrick and fight was amazing for hip hop.

1532
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 5: Brought some life back to it.

1533
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: It did you know what I'm saying.

1534
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 5: It So look before we get out of here. It

1535
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 5: was one I know. It was one thing that I

1536
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 5: left off that I wanted to ask you.

1537
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 6: So, Okay, we know that you're from the West Side,

1538
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 6: and we know that your ato ho to the dead,

1539
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 6: but a lot of people might not realize or understand

1540
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 6: that when you were I want to say, maybe like

1541
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 6: around five or six, you moved to Europe and you

1542
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 6: lived in Europe. You migrated to Germany, and you know,

1543
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 6: you moved around throughout several other countries for years while

1544
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,560
Speaker 6: you were over there. Do you think that that contributed

1545
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 6: to you being such a well rounded person?

1546
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Sean. I mean the fact that you

1547
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: think I'm well rounded. Yeah, I would take that. Yeah,

1548
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:55,919
Speaker 1: it definitely.

1549
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 4: It definitely helped me to be able to communicate the thing.

1550
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: The biggest thing that I learned from growing.

1551
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 4: Abroad was just being able to communicate and realize that

1552
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 4: people are different and the moment that you realize people

1553
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 4: are different and how different they are, it helps you

1554
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 4: understand how to articulate in different settings, in different climates, right,

1555
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 4: And so just trying to be able to survive.

1556
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: In these different moments of opportunity.

1557
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 5: Right.

1558
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 4: It's like when opportunities presented to you, a lot of

1559
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 4: times people fumble the ball, right, and then you got

1560
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 4: to go back.

1561
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: It's like training, you know what I'm saying. It's like

1562
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: you really got to train.

1563
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 4: So, yeah, those times that I had the chance to

1564
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 4: you know, speak different languages, speak you know, German and

1565
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 4: French and growing in England, signed my first record when

1566
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 4: I was fourteen. Yeah, when I came back to the States,

1567
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 4: I was I felt like I was really ready for

1568
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 4: the world because I had been tested, right, and I

1569
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 4: had to learn. It wasn't like I was talking to

1570
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 4: my peers in Europe. I was talking to people that

1571
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 4: didn't look like me, didn't speak like me, that didn't

1572
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 4: grow up with me, right, And so I.

1573
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: Kind of felt like an outsider when I came.

1574
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 4: I would come home quite a bit, and so yeah,

1575
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 4: that was you know, it's always looking at things like

1576
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 4: I looked at my bad what some people will consider

1577
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: bad I made those my good, my good attributes, right,

1578
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 4: So it's just like damn, you know, they would say

1579
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 4: when you're in Europe, you know, and we would always say, man,

1580
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 4: when are you going back to the.

1581
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 1: World, right, and and and going.

1582
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 4: Back to the world. Man, I wasn't always greeted with

1583
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was.

1584
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: I just I just wasn't. I think it's different when

1585
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: you don't grow.

1586
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 4: Up with someone you know, like Atlanta's like if you

1587
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 4: grew up with niggas, like you're going you're fucking with

1588
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 4: them for life, right. You went to high school with

1589
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 4: somebody you want, I member him. I've been going to

1590
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 4: school when it's elementary with him. So those relationships are solid, right,

1591
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 4: just like you know, if you like from New York,

1592
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 4: and it's like a lot of those people from New

1593
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 4: York they grew up together. So in the music business,

1594
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 4: when you enter the music business, you generally enter the

1595
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 4: music business from a from a camp or somebody you know,

1596
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 4: your crew or some way like that you know versus now,

1597
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 4: So it was it was, it was difficult. It was

1598
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 4: definitely difficult at times, but the experience of being out

1599
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 4: of the water kind of it really helped me survive

1600
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 4: because it didn't bother me as much, you know what

1601
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It wasn't like it's like, damn, well, I

1602
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 4: ain't been here anyway, you know what I'm saying. So

1603
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to figure out

1604
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 4: how to survive in this jungle or I'm gonna die, right,

1605
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And not to be negative

1606
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 4: about it, but that was some real ship. It's just

1607
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 4: like you're gonna swim. You're gonna sing a swim in

1608
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 4: this ship because they ain't about to make the shit

1609
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 4: easy for you, you know. And so I took I

1610
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 4: took that on as a positive. I didn't take that

1611
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 4: as a negative thing. I just said, hey man, I

1612
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 4: gotta keep down this damn door until they let me in,

1613
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 4: and to all the people that even though people may

1614
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 4: not have gotten the song or gotten me or took

1615
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 4: me the right way or loved me, it wasn't a

1616
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 4: negative thing. I don't want anybody to walk away thinking that,

1617
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 4: you know, I have this anger inside or this there's

1618
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 4: none of that. It's it's I always looked at it

1619
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 4: like I try to always stay centered and at peace

1620
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 4: with them myself, to never look at a person because

1621
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 4: I always look at it. Sometimes some people just don't know.

1622
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 4: So you know, everybody's not gonna know you at the

1623
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 4: same at the right time. Everybody ain't gonna learn you

1624
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 4: at the right time or the right pace. It's just

1625
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 4: you got to give it to God and allow God

1626
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 4: to you know, I always say, you know you really, yeah,

1627
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 4: you got to have order in your life, you know

1628
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 4: what I mean.

1629
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: I just keep God first. I keep my family first.

1630
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 4: I keep my my heart first, and my heart and

1631
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 4: my passion first, and all of those rules, you know

1632
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like those foundational rules and tools that

1633
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 4: we all grew up on.

1634
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 1: I keep that shit first, you know. I mean, I

1635
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: don't let a dollar change that.

1636
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 4: You know, nobody's gonna convince me to do no shit

1637
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 4: that I know that I can end up, you know,

1638
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 4: putting my family in danger. You know what I'm saying,

1639
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 4: That shit ain't worth it, you know what I mean.

1640
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm not taking. No, they can't give me one hundred

1641
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 4: thousand dollars to go work with somebody. I know I

1642
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 4: don't need to be working with that ain't That's not

1643
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 4: for me. But any advice I would give to anybody's

1644
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 4: wanting to do this. Try to learn as much about

1645
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 4: it as you can. And it ain't gonna take a

1646
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 4: long time. It's just you got to communicate with people.

1647
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1648
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 1: Younger generation y'all could get online.

1649
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 4: You know you can, damn it, DM, anybody you can

1650
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 4: talk to, damn in anybody, you know what.

1651
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's really up to you. It was

1652
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: just up to me.

1653
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 4: I really wanted to be somebody outside of just average.

1654
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 4: And I never looked at myself as being average. I

1655
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 4: just but I never looked at myself as being anybody

1656
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 4: else either. I just wanted to be good at what

1657
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 4: I do, and I love my people, and I just

1658
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 4: give a fuck, you know.

1659
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,519
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01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:23,880
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1661
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,360
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