1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino and Rich podcast. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: Find your local station for Comedo. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: Rich at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Carrie. 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 4: I feel it just needs to be said. There's a 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 4: huge podcast dropping in two hours. We'll get to that. 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 4: But I never root for injury, So I don't want 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 4: anybody to think that we're happy anybody is injured. That 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 4: is not the case. Never against shad or Sanders, never 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 4: against them. It stinks that he got dinged up in 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 4: practice today and the Heck's buyer. I feel like I 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 4: need to say that because the whole issue with Shadoor 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 4: was perception is reality, Right, That's the perception is reality. 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. There's a perception that I'm against 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: shaudor Sanders. That is not the case. It is one 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: hundred percent not the case, but I still need to 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 4: fight against it. Anyway. That's where we start today on 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: this Wednesday. And there's a perception and that Travis Kelce 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: may have lost the step. Yeah, he's fighting back from 23 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 4: that perception. We dive in, welcome in. He is the 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: all pro. I'm Dan byersitting in for Covino and Rich 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: who were in for Dan Patrick earlier. 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Today. Jason Stewart is here. Hello everybody. 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 4: Hello, he's our executive producer today. Ryan Smith is at 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: the board. What's going on? Papa Bear? 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Hello? Hello? 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: And Chris Proffetts set the news desk. Hi, Hello, Chris. 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Hello? All right? You good? 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: Everything's set? With your your mic because I know you 33 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: want to weigh in on the pod that's about to 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: drop and Travis Kelsey's upcoming season a lot to prove 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: for the three time Super Bowl champion one hundred. 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: That part is coming. 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 5: But I just want to let everybody know, like off 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 5: the air, he has his Witches brew going, he has 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 5: a smoke he has to say, he's going, you know, 40 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 5: wishing that's to do it with nom joking, He's He's 41 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 5: not doing that at all. He's definitely just dropping good takes. 42 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 5: And I know everybody's been up in arms about that 43 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: the last couple of days. But no, I mean it's 44 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 5: so much going on. No, this tra his stuff and 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: you know, as a player back in the day, like 46 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: you really had to focus on your craft, like that 47 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 5: was a big thing. If you had anything that was 48 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 5: going on outside of the game, it was always kind 49 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: of like frowned upon. 50 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: You know, the job is the job. 51 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: We're here to be the best version of the football 52 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 5: player that we can be, right, And then you start 53 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 5: getting endorsements, you get a little you know, you get 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 5: a little fame, and you start getting a little notoriety, 55 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 5: and obviously for your own personal reasons, you know, you 56 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: go after those things. 57 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the team always wants you to. 58 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 5: Talk about the team, yes, and talk about what's going 59 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: on day to day there and how you're getting better 60 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: and how the team's getting better. But again, like this, 61 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 5: you know, this career the NFL is such a short one, 62 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: so you want to maximize your window, so doing other things. 63 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 5: When I think the season is over, I feel it's 64 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 5: perfectly fine. But when it bleeds into what's going on 65 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 5: throughout the year and you know, day to day stuff, 66 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 5: that becomes a problem. And I think for Travis this 67 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 5: is only just an excuse. I mean, obviously he's older, 68 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 5: he has lost the step and you know, you know, 69 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: the game changes, the game catches up to the greatest, 70 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 5: the greatest of who's ever done it, and he's one 71 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 5: of those guys that can be in that same categories 72 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 5: one of the greatest tight ends I've ever done it. 73 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 4: Well, well, let me just quick just interrupt, because I 74 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: just want people to understand essentially where we're talking what 75 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: we're talking about here. Travis Kelcey spoke with GQ and said, quote, 76 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: I think it might have slipped a little bit because 77 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: that did have a little more focus in trying to 78 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: set myself up. And he's talking about losing focus from 79 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: the football field because of other off field opportunities that 80 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: came up. Said opportunities came up quote where I was 81 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: excited to venture into a new world of acting and 82 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: being an entertainer. Shot up, was the host of a 83 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: Amazon series during the off season, appeared in an FX 84 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: series as well, talking about all of the other things 85 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: that happened outside of football, and says that he they 86 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: have lost his focus looking at those things, which is 87 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: a reason why he had a dip in his numbers 88 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 4: these past couple of seasons. So that's what Travis Kelcey 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: ended up saying the GQ. Sorry I interrupted, but just 90 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: wanted to set the scene so we can debate time 91 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: where Travis Kelsey is. 92 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question not. 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 5: I mean I probably jumped the gun a little bit 94 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 5: on that, but you know, it's it's that, right, like 95 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 5: being a player and really concentrating on getting better at 96 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 5: your craft and your job is always party number one. 97 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 5: But when you step outside and do other things that 98 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 5: you know can expand your career post football, I'm always 99 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 5: on board for that. But when you when it bleeds 100 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 5: into the team, bleeds into your performance, that becomes the issue. 101 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: But the issue isn't that for Travis Kelce In my opinion, 102 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 5: it's just that he's lost a step. 103 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: And again, like you, it happens naturally. 104 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: It's part of the old adage that you know, nobody's 105 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: nobody beats Father time, right, and that's what's happening here. 106 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: It's not about him having a terrible gig on FX 107 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: and doing a bad job, and it's you know, it's 108 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 5: even though it's fun and he's done a great job 109 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 5: of actual putting themselve out there, this isn't the issue, Dan, 110 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 5: and I hate when people make excuses like that. Yes, 111 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 5: just say I'm gonna you know, the last two seasons 112 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: were down years, and that's part of being a professional 113 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 5: as well. I've had down years and you bounce back 114 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 5: and you come back and do what you can for 115 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 5: your team. And I think that's what he should be 116 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 5: talking about more. 117 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: I think there's a couple of different levels to this 118 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey conversation, and just the first of which is 119 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: the stat line. So over the last two years he 120 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: is not top one thousand yards. In twenty twenty three, 121 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: if he played in every game played in fifteen of 122 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: the seventeen probably would have had nine hundred and eighty 123 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: four yards, but just five touchdowns that year. Last year, 124 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: playing in sixteen games, targets were down, receptions were down 125 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 4: eight hundred and twenty three yards and just three touchdowns. 126 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: And what I find here is what they're trying to 127 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: find here, What is the reality of this, because not 128 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: only is it the number sliding, you're saying that Father 129 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: Time is unbeaten. And then now you have another angle 130 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: of it of his effort into this. In Super Bowl 131 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: fifty nine against the Eagles. Yeah, something we've talked about, 132 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: which I think was on clear display for hundreds of 133 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: millions to see that there just wasn't There was there 134 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 4: was something missing, something wasn't there in Super Bowl fifty nine. 135 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: So Kelsey goes on to tell GQ Magazine, I have 136 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: such motivation to show up this year for my guys. 137 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: I don't say this is I shouldn't have done it, 138 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 4: meaning the other off field stuff. I'm just saying that 139 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: my work ethic is such that I have so much 140 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: pride in how I do things that I never want 141 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: the product to tail off. And I feel like these 142 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 4: past two years haven't been to my standard, and that 143 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: maybe how he feels. And sometimes you're the last one 144 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: to know yes, yes, right, yes, And I'm wondering if 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: that's the case with Travis Kelcey. But this is what 146 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 4: I think is interesting because our executive producer Jason Stewart, 147 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: who unlike you carry has not played in the NFL, 148 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: but he had a different opinion on what Travis Kelcey 149 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: was saying or not saying in here. And Jason, your explanation, 150 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: in your words, how you put what Kelsey did here 151 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: with GQ Magazine was what. 152 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 6: I think that only a guy that's already had his 153 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 6: career could say this like the balls of somebody to 154 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 6: say in GQ to your fans that maybe something was 155 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 6: distracting me from doing the ultimate thing last year and 156 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 6: win in a Super Bowl. You can't a first or 157 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 6: second year player can't admit this. Even a midstream player 158 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 6: can't admit this. So I kind of admire it for 159 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 6: being refreshing that you just don't hear people admit to this. 160 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 6: You know for a fact that it has happened in 161 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 6: other cases, but they never admit it. In fact, they 162 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 6: emphatically deny it and they get offended by it. So 163 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 6: that was kind of my takeaway. It's either refreshing to 164 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 6: hear or if I'm a Chiefs fan, that's kind of 165 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 6: a punch in the gut a little bit, is it not? 166 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 5: If it was year five Travis Kelsey who's coming off 167 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl and in year six out of day, 168 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 5: that would make more sense to me, like it would 169 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: be a valid option for him to go that route. 170 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 5: Him going that route when we know that he's telling 171 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 5: off and he's done, you know, it's just, yeah, that 172 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: part just doesn't It doesn't ring true to me at all. 173 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 5: It feels like something that's trying to buffer the last 174 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: two years, which I don't know why he would do that. 175 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: I would rather say if this is a weird pride thing. 176 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: And that's why I side with what you're saying. Not 177 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: that I'm against what Jason says, but I think that 178 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: you're you're on target with what he says. It's easier 179 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: to say I just I didn't try, rather than to say, like, 180 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: I don't have it if I don't have it anymore. 181 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 4: And the reason why maybe he can say that is 182 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: because he did have it at one time or is 183 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: someone who didn't ever have it. You really can't take 184 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: any stock into what you're saying. So the fact that 185 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,119 Speaker 4: we're even considering it shows you what Travis Kelcey accomplished 186 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: throughout his career. But I think that your point is 187 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 4: exactly right. The we want to know if all right, 188 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: the is it the old friend now fiance that's the 189 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: biggest pop star in the world. Well, I think that's 190 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: the rumors, right, That's that's the whole deal. Maybe we'll 191 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: find out in two hours as they're dropping albums and 192 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: everything of the New Heights podcast. But all of that 193 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: is going on, but he's going to point to these 194 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: other things. So it's not the relationship, it's not the play, 195 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: it's not it's not me wearing down as a player 196 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: and just getting older. It's FX and it's the Amazon 197 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: Game show and it's all of that stuff. And I 198 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: think that's that's easy to point to. 199 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: The The thing. 200 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: That just makes me laugh about this whole thing is 201 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: this isn't to Diana Rossini of The Athletic, this isn't 202 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: to ESPN. This is the GQ magazine. Okay, so this 203 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: is like, this is like, guess what I'm done doing 204 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 4: nudes to Playgirl magazine. Like that's what that's what it 205 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: would be. I'm not gonna eat meat anymore. To Carnivor's 206 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: own that, like that's the like, that's what he's doing. 207 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: He's like, I've lost my way in speaking the GQ. 208 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 7: Magazine like like this is this is the Like that's 209 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 7: the part. Also, I'm going to you and going to 210 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 7: your side and being like, yeah, like I don't think 211 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 7: that you truly believe any. 212 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 4: Of of that other stuff. I think you don't want 213 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 4: to believe that you lost a step. 214 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 215 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: And it's easy to point to that other stuff. And 216 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 4: by the way, more more power to you if you 217 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: can be the cover person on GQ. I'm not I'm 218 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 4: just it's funny to me to sit there and to 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: read an article in GQ about how committed Travis Kelcey 220 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: is the football? 221 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Like like this is? 222 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: That's the part that it just it made me chuckle 223 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: because that's not necessarily where I thought I would I 224 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 4: would be able to read that sort of artist. 225 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: So, Dan, you're trying to say GQ doesn't put out 226 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: legit articles. 227 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: What are you doing and going on saying is that 228 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 4: your interests are in other areas and GQ magazine is 229 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: probably one of those areas. 230 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 5: It's a terrible cover too. Right away, I'm sorry, I'm 231 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 5: kind of hating. I'm kind of hating fir coat. Yeah, 232 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 5: it was like a like a bare head on top 233 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: of his head or something. 234 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: Was it? Was it that extreme? Or am I exaggerated? 235 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: I thought it was some fir thing. I didn't get 236 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: the whole, the whole sort of deal I was. I 237 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: didn't see the entire picture. But he was brooding. He 238 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: had a brooding look on his face. It was crazy, man. 239 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: But again, listen to listen to this right So, the 240 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: greatest of all time. He was filming a movie, an 241 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: animated movie that was one of the biggest movies at 242 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: the time, Michael Jordan, right, while also preparing for a 243 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: season where they came back and won a championship and 244 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 4: they had the best team, the best record up until 245 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: the Golden State Wars came and booked that record. They 246 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: won seventy two games. He filmed the movie, he actually 247 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: set his workout schedule early in the morning. He would 248 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: get his work out in early in the morning. So 249 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: as far as being able to do both, in general, 250 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: it can be done. So that's not an excuse. 251 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 5: Number one, Like if he can to go out and 252 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 5: film a whole movie where he's in the whole movie 253 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: and he's carrying the movie Michael Jordan, workout, play games 254 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 5: after filming, and then do it all over again the 255 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 5: next day. Like there's no reason for any player to 256 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 5: say that something else got in the way when you 257 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: committed to which you committed to. And so you know 258 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 5: he's been committed to football. If he wasn't, andy read 259 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 5: wouldn't allow him to play or be a part of 260 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: what's going on. Like and it reads the old school culture, 261 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, so that stuff doesn't 262 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: even I don't get with that at all. And so 263 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: when you just can't like take what the real the 264 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: realism of all of this and say, you know what, again, 265 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: I'm getting older, I gotta find new ways to get 266 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 5: open and help my team win. I think that would 267 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 5: have been the better thing for me to hear. 268 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: I love when bands admit their album's stunk, right like 269 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: when when it bobs like that. 270 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: You'll hear that and it may be in. 271 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: To promote the next album, but they'll just be like, yeah, 272 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: we just it wasn't It wasn't there. They look back 273 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: and say it was missing there. There was just something 274 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: wasn't And maybe in this time with Travis Kelsey look 275 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: back and say that if he has a great year 276 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: and that will be the problem. But again, I think 277 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: I'm leaning more towards towards where you are and that 278 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: he doesn't have it because also in this piece with GQ, 279 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 4: it focused on how he's prepping for the upcoming season 280 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: and has added a new a speed coach, a speed 281 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: and agility coach to his repertoire, and so he's been 282 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: working out in Florida And the point that was made 283 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: as part of this article is that Travis Kelcey is 284 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: the most effective when he's running between twelve and sixteen 285 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: miles per hour. Now, this isn't meant to get into 286 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: the weeds. It's just that if he runs full speed, 287 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: nineteen miles per hour was a top speed they had 288 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: clocked him at in a Super Bowl. He does not 289 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: have the ability then to move his body and elude 290 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: defenders like he would normally do. And I'm curious as 291 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: a player like you hear that Travis Kelcey at times 292 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: looks slow on the field, like just like maybe it's 293 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: because he's so massive in a certain way, but also 294 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: now it's like, is he not going to full He's 295 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: not going full speed. Do you think that's a cover 296 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: up for him losing a step or do you think 297 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: that that is an actual excuse? Is someone who's spent 298 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: eight years in the National Football League when we have 299 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: a speed coach? Is that is that bologne? Or is 300 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: that something that we could legitimately take up and say, Okay, 301 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 4: that's a legitimate, legitimate thing that Travis Kelsey does when 302 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: he plays. 303 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: No, it's blooney. How many tight ends are out running 304 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 5: anybody anyway? You're not out running corners because because he's 305 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: such a good player, you're going to put probably one 306 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: of your best cover guys on him. So he's never 307 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: beaten anybody with speed. He's beaten him with positioning, he's 308 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: beaten him with the christness that he runs his routes, 309 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: and that part of it is just not there right now. 310 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: He can't get in and out of breaks, click identifying defenses. 311 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: He will always know, but that's part of it. Is 312 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 5: not straight straight ahead speed anyway. 313 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: Ever, that's very interesting, Yeah, because that's what they're saying here, 314 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: is that when he's running at twelve to sixteen, he 315 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: has more ability to move and elude defenders, and he 316 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: can separate from a linebacker at that speed. 317 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be at. 318 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: Nineteen miles per hour. But it seems like it's more 319 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: trying to add to a narrative that he hasn't lost 320 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: a stet. 321 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: The pr span is impeccable right now with no, you're right, 322 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent. That's all I hear, if that's 323 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: what it is. 324 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just point to the fact of the 325 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: two years ago when on a bye week he flew 326 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: to South America to see Taylor Swift in concert. Yeah, 327 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: and I know that's not brought up. I have actually 328 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: have no problem with him doing an off season TV show. No, 329 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: Jordan is like the one of one of doing what 330 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: he and there's really nobody else that can do that, 331 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: even other players. I'll bring up shud Or Sanders. Shod 332 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: Or Sanders wants to work on music in his downtime 333 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: when he's sitting at home and done with practice. Go 334 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 4: right ahead, now, we don't want you to play twelve 335 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 4: hours of call of duty like Kyler Murray, you know, 336 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 4: supposedly used to. I don't think that's a great use 337 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: of time, but you do have to have an escape. 338 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: You do have a Tuesday off day. I hate comparing 339 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: real world to your world of an athlete, like the 340 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: nine to five months through Friday job or the factory job. 341 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: I hate comparing it to professional athletes. But it's the 342 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: same way. If we're going to be critical of an 343 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: athlete doing something, we'd have to be critical of somebody 344 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: going somewhere on a Saturday or Sunday on their week off. 345 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: Like it's just at some point you need some escape. 346 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: Even if you're you're in a season, and granted you 347 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 4: have an off season, but your off season isn't like 348 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: an offseason. You have mini camps and the whole deal. 349 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: So that's why I just I don't love to compare 350 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: the two, but it just seems like they're picking spots 351 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: of the TV show, the game show, and nothing else 352 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: around it. 353 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: That's what it is. 354 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: But all that's off season stuff, and to me, I 355 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: don't think that would affect it. But also like when 356 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: you're just looking at this world here that does the 357 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: game show in August or July of twenty twenty four, 358 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: June of twenty twenty four, does that come back February 359 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five when you're not putting forth the effort 360 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl? Does does it go through weeks 361 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 4: one through eighteen at that point? I don't think it does. 362 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: I just, yeah, I agree with you. I think that 363 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: this is kind of a cover up, if you will, 364 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 4: on what the real problem is with Travis Kelcey. 365 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: And it doesn't come off. It doesn't come off great. 366 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: Like again, yes, you want to be forward and up 367 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 5: right and up forth and have that type of energy, 368 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 5: but again, some things are better left un said. 369 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: We already kind of know the answer to. 370 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 6: That, don't you think, though, I mean, and I'm starting 371 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 6: to I'm starting to kind of agree with with your 372 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 6: side of this here, but there's don't you agree it's 373 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 6: a strange way to cover something up by welcoming a 374 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 6: whole new thing of criticism, Like I know, going on GQ, 375 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 6: if you're saying that he's speaking to a certain audience 376 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 6: and that maybe maybe we over here wouldn't have gotten 377 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 6: the information. But it just seems like he's welcoming a 378 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 6: whole batch of criticism by admitting to being distracted to 379 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 6: an entire fan base who is trying to win a 380 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 6: third straight Super Bowl. 381 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Right. 382 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: We all know someone who loves to admit when they're 383 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: wrong because they get the soft landing. Someone says, you know, 384 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: I messed up. I can't do that again. What is 385 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: your natural response? Hey man, they'll be so hard on yourself, 386 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: like you've done a really good job. It's an actual 387 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 4: tactic that I think that people will use, where they 388 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 4: will admit what they want to admit is wrong. And 389 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: I think that's part of it, is he doesn't want 390 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: to admit that he lost a step or he doesn't 391 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 4: want to admit and I don't think his relationship had 392 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: anything to do with it. I don't think he should 393 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: have gone to South America on a bye week. But 394 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: then the NFL is like, well, to cover it up, 395 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: we'll send teams to South America. You know, I'm just kidding, 396 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: but I don't like those areas aren't being touched. He's 397 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: pointed to two off season entities of acting on TV 398 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: that I think are easy to point to exactly, and 399 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: then when you say, guess what, I lost a step, 400 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: then you're like, you know what, man, you help us 401 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 4: win three super Bowls. I can't wait for the upcoming season. 402 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: Instead of being like, why have you slacked off these 403 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: last three years? Why are you just riding into the sunset. 404 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: They try to take control of the narrative by admitting 405 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: they're wrong, but they only want to admit what they 406 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: want to admit because then they know the other parties 407 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: will respond in that way. 408 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 5: Jay, STU, think about this, Out of those three things 409 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 5: that we just talked about, the TV show, the hosting gig, 410 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 5: and not being able to do it anymore, which one 411 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 5: is worse? Which one is worse from the standpoint of 412 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 5: a fan base? Yeah, like, what's more of an indictment? 413 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 414 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: I guess out of those three, the last one you 415 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 5: mentioned exactly, And he didn't mention that one, So that 416 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 5: tells me what it is right there, Those are the blame. 417 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 5: That's why he didn't. It's that TV show, which is 418 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: why he only had eight hundred and twenty three yards. 419 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 5: Imagine telling you your fan base, Dan and your teammates, 420 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 5: I can't do it anymore, but I'm coming out here 421 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 5: again for year seventeen or whatever it is. Right, Yeah, 422 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 5: that would be even more selfish any other things. 423 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to put it. 424 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: And again, doesn't seem like the Chiefs have ever planned 425 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: for this for the next era of Travis kelcey And 426 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: though they've had a couple of guys. Noah Gray is 427 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: in there as a possibility, but you know there was. 428 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: They're a team that could use that next era tight 429 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: end and they haven't moved on from it necessarily. And 430 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: they've tried to get outside guys to help to help 431 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes. Maybe they need somebody that's like Travis kelce 432 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 4: to help hear those offensive. 433 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: Got a question for you, Dan, what if? What if? 434 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 5: What if he wasn't with Taylor Swift right now? Would 435 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 5: they still have him on a team after the last 436 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 5: two years in his performance in. 437 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I do think, yes, right, I don't think 438 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: that Taylor Swift has that much power. Again, he won, 439 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: he won Super Bowls before he met on Taylor Swift. Sure, 440 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: so like in the reason and that's probably you know, 441 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: it helps it helps me. Travis Kelce like, I get 442 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 4: all of that. So there's just a lot of equity 443 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: in there, and there are probably very few people that 444 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: can say what he said. It's just do you believe 445 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: what he's actually saying? 446 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: For sure? 447 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: We'll find out over eighteen weeks, starting the week of 448 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 4: the first week of September. He's Carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. 449 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: Jason Stewart's here. Hit him up at Jason Stewart. You 450 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: can find me at Dan Byro on Fox. Find Carry 451 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 4: at Carrie twenty five Roads. Christopher FETs at the news desk. 452 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: Ryan Smith is on the ones in twos as we 453 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: are in for Cavino and Rich who are in for 454 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: Dan Patrick. 455 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: Earlier today, Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk 456 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 457 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 458 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: Chris Quick Question before you Yeah, please step away. Barry 459 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: Sanders retires in nineteen ninety eight. A shock to the 460 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: Lions fans as part of that retirement. 461 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: We go back a long long ways. 462 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: Do Lions fans miss Barry Sanders not continuing his career? 463 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: Are they resentment? Is there any resentment at all that 464 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: he didn't become the all time leading rusher? If we 465 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: can just take a look at the Lions fans' minds 466 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: when it comes to Barry Sanders' retirements, where do they sit? 467 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 4: Even though it happened twenty five years ago, so it. 468 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: Is a long time ago. I don't think there's a 469 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: lot of resentment, partly because I think what happens after 470 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: a career, once some time has passed, is whether or 471 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: not you decide to stand in good graces with the team. 472 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: And for Barry Sanders, he's always on the sideline with 473 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 3: the Lions. He's become something of an ambassador for the team. 474 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: He's always representing them, doing interviews and appearing before major games. 475 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: The Lions, especially with when the ownership flipped over to 476 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: Sheila hamp has really taken a hard policy of making 477 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: sure all the legends come back. I think there was 478 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: some resentment, a lot of resentment with like Megatron, with 479 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: Calvin Johnson when he left because there was the whole 480 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: you know, million dollars on the table. Still that was 481 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: a big sticking point. But you know, I think there 482 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: was a lot of reconciliation, but the first one to 483 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: really have that, you know, embrace the Lions coming back 484 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: was Barry Sanders. So if there's anyone still complaining about 485 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: Barry Sanders among Lions fans, they're like the oldest of 486 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: old heads. I think most people see him as the 487 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: Lions legend unequivocally. 488 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 4: The reason I bring it up is because Barry Sanders 489 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: was on his way to being the all time leading 490 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: rusher in the NFL and was going to set that 491 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: record if you would have played a couple of more seasons. 492 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Emmett Smith ultimately left. 493 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: The game two thousand and four with over eighteen thy 494 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: three hundred yards, but when Barry Sanders left in nineteen 495 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 4: ninety eight, he had fifteen two hundred and sixty nine 496 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: yards and was fifteen hundred yards shy of Walter Payton's record, 497 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: So would have been Barry Sanders, and Barry Sanders may 498 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 4: still be the leading rushing or leading running back or 499 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: for rushing yards today if he would have continued to 500 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 4: play in his career. That's why I started and why 501 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: I asked the question to Chris is that would also 502 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: be a Lions record, right like that would be a 503 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: record embraced by the city. Cal Raley is on the 504 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: verge of breaking a lot of records for the Seattle 505 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: Mariners right now he is. He's just shy of the 506 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 4: pace to break Aaron Judge's record of sixty two American 507 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: League home runs. Right now, he's on pace for sixty one. 508 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 4: So they're saying the likelihood of breaking in of sixty 509 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: three or more is thirty eight point five percent. That's 510 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: according to bet online right now. Will he break the record? Yes, 511 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: is plus one twenty. No is minus one six. That's 512 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: for Judges sixty two. However, this was the one that 513 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: I thought was interesting. Will cal Raley break King Griffy 514 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 4: Junior's Mariner's single season home run record of fifty six 515 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 4: seventy one percent? Chance study will is he has forty 516 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 4: five home runs right now with forty two games left 517 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: minus two point fifty Yes, No, plus one seventy. Cal 518 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: Raley is having a magnificent season. If you're a Mariners fan, 519 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: do you want cal Raley to have that record or 520 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: King Griffyd Junior to have that record. 521 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: As a Mariner fan, that's a that's a hard one, Dan. 522 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: I think that the sweetest swinging lefty ever and just 523 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 5: the name recognition, the father dynamic as well, just the 524 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: lure that the Griffies have. 525 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: That'd be a tough one to break. 526 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree to break, and it's why I brought 527 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: it up because it's not meant to disrespect cal Rally 528 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 4: in any way. But there is something about Ken gri 529 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 4: who was every kid's favorite player. I feel like of 530 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 4: my age and growing up because he's just he had 531 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: everything and he is, you know, so much of that organization. 532 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: Even though he left for a couple of years to 533 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 4: play for the Reds, it's still they have Ken Grafree 534 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: Junior have your single season home run mark. I think 535 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: is pretty special. And it's not that the Mariners again 536 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 4: would cheer against cal ralely right, but I think that 537 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: there are records sometimes that you just don't want to 538 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: have broken. Roger marris Is broke a record of sixty 539 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 4: one when McGuire and Sosa and everybody were chasing it, 540 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: and while there were steroid thoughts, maybe at that time 541 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: that something was going on, there was still a group 542 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: of people that didn't want sixty one broken and that 543 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 4: they wanted that number to stay. And it's since been 544 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: broken by McGuire and Sosa and then obviously Bonds after that, 545 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 4: you know, ended up seventy three. And why Judge is 546 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: now sixty two is looked at as such a unique 547 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: number because he didn't pass Bonds a single season. But 548 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: you and say that it's an American League record. I 549 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: just think the thought process of breaking records and who 550 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 4: you want to have those records is trickier than you 551 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 4: would think on the surface. And I would just think 552 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 4: as a Mariners fan, to have Ken Griffy Junior hold 553 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: that single season record, I think that they would they 554 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: would want Ken Griffy Junior to still have that. 555 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: I could be completely off base. 556 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: I'm not a Mariners fan, but I think it's a 557 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: record that you would say, maybe I don't want that 558 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 4: one to be broken. 559 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, get close to a col don't break it, just 560 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: get really close, like have have the end of the 561 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 5: season be a little countdown that you know he might 562 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 5: possibly do it, or he's on the brink of doing it. 563 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 5: But yeah, being the flag bearer for the Mariners having 564 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 5: that guy be Ken Griffy Junior, it's a big deal win. 565 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: A World series could make up for it. Jason Stewart, 566 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: our executive producer. 567 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: I think Roger Morris is like the perfect example here 568 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 6: because the people that at the time complained that Roger 569 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 6: Morris was just kind of this like Johnny come Lately, 570 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 6: who hadn't had a great yank your career they played 571 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 6: I think they I want to say, they expanded to 572 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty two games, so the whole asterisk 573 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 6: took place and it held up. By the way, the 574 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 6: criticism of Roger Merris building up to that sixty one 575 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 6: season has held up. He didn't he did not have 576 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 6: a great career afterwards. That was kind of like his 577 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 6: one off, And I think that's the criticism of cal 578 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 6: Rawley's season. We don't know yet if he's going to 579 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 6: have other years like this. This could be his one season. 580 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 6: We knew Ken Griffy was amazing, he was a Hall 581 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 6: of Famer. He's the natural. So I think that's what 582 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 6: you're speaking to, like, we want, we want our heroes 583 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 6: to have these records, not just kind of like Johnny 584 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 6: cum Lately who had one great year. 585 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a that's a big part 586 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: of it, and it's also just of who Ken Griffy 587 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 4: Junior is and what he meant to that franchise, into 588 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: that team and to to all of us. I actually 589 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: think the worst case scenario would be Rally to break 590 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: fifty six but not get to Judges sixty two, so 591 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: to be in that sweet spot, which by the way, 592 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: seems like where he's gonna land in his home run 593 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 4: total if he goes on a tear. Now there's others. 594 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 4: Mickey Mantle, as a switch hitter, hit the most home 595 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: runs in a single season that was fifty four. There's 596 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 4: an eighty seven and a half percent likelihood according to 597 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 4: bent Online, that he breaks that number. As for Bonds's 598 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: mark of seventy three, right now, it's plus two thousand 599 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: and a long shot twenty to one. Current odds are 600 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 4: less than five percent that Roley would be able to 601 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 4: hit seventy three, hit forty five with forty two to go. 602 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 4: That seems very unlikely. But if you were to fall 603 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: short of Judge, like if you were to break Judges 604 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: record and I have sixty three, then I think now 605 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: we've really developed a new star in Major League Baseball, 606 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 4: because now your name is attached to that record. But 607 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: if he was in between, if he would broke Griffy's 608 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: record but didn't get to judges. To Jason's point of 609 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: us not knowing like what cal Rawley's career is going 610 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: to be or the rest of it's going to be, 611 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: I think there would be some unhappy people. It's not 612 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: that I don't want records broken, but it's just the 613 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: fact of certain records. It's why I just thought with 614 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 4: with Barry Sanders, if Barry Sanders breaks the rushing record, 615 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: it's not just Barry Sanders record, it's the entire city 616 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: of Detroit's record, it's the Lions record, it's probably the 617 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: State of Michigan's record. So like those things come with 618 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 4: those sort of marks. And that's why I think where 619 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: cal Raley is right now, he's in an interesting spot 620 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: because there could be some history on its side, but 621 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: he also could have the best player in franchise history. 622 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: Maybe move aside. Jason, I was thinking about this. 623 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 6: So I grew up with an on the I mean, 624 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 6: I have a bunch of family on the East Coast, 625 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 6: or just big Johnny Uniteds people yeah, like you don't know, 626 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 6: Johnny United Us. To a lot of people of a 627 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 6: certain age, is like their hero. And then you're thinking, 628 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 6: who holds the Colts single season record for passing? Peyton 629 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 6: probably holds it, and that's fine, Peyton holding it, but 630 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 6: Andrew luck is the single season? Is that good? 631 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: Is that Okay? 632 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 6: If you're a diehard Colts fan from way back. 633 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Hey what you got? Damn? 634 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: I No, I would say no, like you don't want 635 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: like then you just then you just say you chalk 636 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: it up to well, that's just today's that's just today's NFL. 637 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 4: But there's something historic about it. Even though we all 638 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 4: remember Ken Garyfid junior playing, it's been a while, spent 639 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 4: a little while, so there's some there's some history, there's 640 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 4: some nostalgia with it. And to that, like even if 641 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning had the record, you could say, yeah, and 642 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: it's not as much about Lu's decision, but yet it 643 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: is you didn't want to play anymore, right and was 644 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 4: at that level and maybe could have been a great 645 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: So you feel a little empty with that feeling. Yeah, 646 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: I think there's absolutely something to that. 647 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: That's funny. 648 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 5: Johnny, You Johnny you went to the University of Where 649 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: that's right, that's right statue in the end zone or 650 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 5: do they move it. 651 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: I know they've renovated it, like you know twenty times. 652 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 5: It's still there. Lamars is inside. 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But Carry and 679 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: I were talking during the break on this record's conversation 680 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 4: that we had just talked about with cal Raley coming 681 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 4: close to possibly breaking on track to break Ken Griffey 682 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: Junior's team record for home runs for the Mariners and 683 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: a little just slightly off the pace to break Aaron 684 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: Judge's American League record of sixty two home runs in 685 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: the season, and Johnny Unitas was brought up by Jason 686 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 4: Stewart and talking about the Colts. But it's your point 687 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 4: is it's very difficult to talk about Johnny Unitas as 688 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 4: a passer considering the eras that Luck, Andrew Luck and 689 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning played yes, And so the conversation then turned 690 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 4: to it's what made Dan Marinos nineteen eighty four season, 691 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: So such a rarity, which I think if it was 692 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 4: today with inflation, it would probably be about seven thousand yards. 693 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: It's be ridiculous and it would. 694 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And in that season Marino, who by the way, 695 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: the five and eighty four yards is twelfth best all 696 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: time now for a single season passing yarded season, we've 697 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: now expanded seventeen games, you know, game more than he played. 698 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: Not everybody Peyton Manning and others did theirs in sixteen 699 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 4: games as well. But Carrie wanted to know the attempts. 700 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: Why were the attempts so interesting to you for what 701 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: Marino had. 702 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 5: Because obviously in today's game, the number of attempts they're 703 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: going to be higher, And so I wanted to see 704 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 5: where he stood when it came to his attempts in 705 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 5: that season because it just wasn't part of the NFL 706 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 5: as far as opening up the way they do now. 707 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: Yes, and so the number of attempts that Dan Marino 708 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: had in that season in nineteen eighty four were five 709 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty four. Right, I asked you carry former 710 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: All Pro safety who spent eight years in the league, 711 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 4: where he thought that ranked all time in attempts and 712 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: where do you think it ranks? 713 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 5: And I said somewhere around forty okay, forty eight on 714 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 5: that list, But it seems like it's. 715 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: It's Dan Marino's five hundred and sixty four attempts that 716 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: season are tied with Trevor Lawrence of the Jaguars for 717 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy ninth all time. So there were 718 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy eight quarterbacks in a season that 719 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: have thrown more passes in a season than Dan Marino 720 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 4: threw in that season. 721 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: Wow. 722 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: Tom Brady had the record through seven hundred and thirty 723 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 4: three passes in two thousand and two through twenty twenty two. 724 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 4: Excuse me with the Buccaneers. The reason as well why 725 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 4: Marino's numbers are so crazy is Marino threw for five 726 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: thou eighty four yards in nineteen eighty four, again when 727 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 4: the game was not the game that it was today. 728 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 4: Dan Fouts is the next closest from the nineteen hundreds 729 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 4: carry to have a season where he threw for forty 730 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: eight hundred yards in nineteen eighty one. That's best for 731 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 4: thirty four. The top thirty three single season passing seasons 732 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 4: have all come from two thousand and seven on. So 733 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 4: from the last eighteen years, the top thirty three passing 734 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: seasons in the NFL, thirty two of them have been 735 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: within the last eighteen years. Only Dan Marinos in nineteen 736 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 4: eighty four stands alone. So you want to talk about 737 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 4: playing a different game, yep, and the numbers and so 738 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 4: you go back to that season in nineteen eighty four, 739 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just and with only with only five 740 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty four attempts that season of what that 741 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: could have been, and. 742 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 5: That's thirty five attempts a game for that amount of 743 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 5: yardage and that amount of testdowns, It's ridiculous. You have 744 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 5: Mark Clayton and Mark and Duper. I mean, I want 745 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 5: to go back and look at some of those allies 746 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 5: now and some of that film and just see what 747 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 5: they were doing, because it's they were ahead of their 748 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 5: time for sure. 749 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: Jason Stewart, our executive producer, I. 750 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 6: Think this makes the point that you were making twenty 751 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 6: minutes ago, which is this, we want our heroes to 752 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 6: have that record. If Tua breaks that record, all the 753 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 6: Dan Marino fans and Dolphin fans, I think would be 754 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 6: so upset, and it would just be because of the 755 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 6: seventeenth game, right, yes, yes. 756 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 4: Yes, and then them throwing on every single down, which 757 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: it seems like, I mean bratty. At one hundred and 758 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 4: sixty more passes than Marino had in his season, that 759 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 4: would feel like it's four more games, right, and there 760 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 4: was only one, so it's like it's a different game 761 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 4: and it's a different schedule. But this is yeah, this 762 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: was this was amazing. This is only two thousand and seven. 763 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 4: We're talking about that of the of the years that 764 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 4: go back, so within the last eighteen years, it's crazy. 765 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 4: All you see is like twenty twenty one, twenty thirteen, 766 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, twenty nineteen. Oh there's Dan Fouts. Oh there's 767 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 4: Dan Marino. He's carry roads. I'm Dan Beyer. How OBJ 768 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 4: got duped? And super fans that are Celabs' next