WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: The Face Behind the Mask

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind, it is November,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are celebrating November like a lot of film

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<v Speaker 1>fans out there. So this is our newar November episode

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<v Speaker 1>from last year. It is the nineteen forty one Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Lorie film The Face Behind the Mask. Let's jump right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. In today's episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Weird House Cinema. We're getting in on the Near November festivities.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not familiar with this, this is a yearly,

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<v Speaker 1>month long celebration of near cinema, a concept introduced in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten by film critic Maria E. Gates. Film noir is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, a turn that covers a lot of ground

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<v Speaker 1>and bleeds into a number of different subgenres and adjacent genres.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it ultimately becomes just sort of a shade,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and a stylistic flourish that may be employed

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<v Speaker 1>even just in key scenes in a particular picture, but

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<v Speaker 1>in its arguably truest form, we're talking about black and

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<v Speaker 1>white old Hollywood crime dramas, full of cynicism, amoral characters

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<v Speaker 1>and style, heavy dash of German expressionism, plenty of cigarette smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw all that in and you're good to go. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also much to be said about this genre emerging out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Great Depression. Lots of moving parts, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can identify noir in everything from such films as The

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<v Speaker 1>Maltese Falcon from nineteen forty one nineteen forty two's Casablanca

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<v Speaker 1>to stuff like nineteen eighty twos Blade Runner and multiple

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<v Speaker 1>you know, neo noir films from the likes of the

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen Brothers and David Lynch. And we haven't really gotten

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<v Speaker 1>in on this Noirvember thing before. You know, I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it celebrated at Videodrome, the rental store here

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, I've seen it celebrated online in various places,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it feels right. November is a really

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<v Speaker 1>choice month for all of this, because wordplay aside, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a month of continued descent through fall and into winter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a month often typified by things like elections or

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<v Speaker 1>corporate layoffs. It's a bleak time for bleak hearts, so

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<v Speaker 1>what better time than now to dive into the black

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<v Speaker 1>and white world of private detectives and professional criminals. So

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<v Speaker 1>what is today's movie? It is nineteen forty one's The

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<v Speaker 1>Face Behind the Mask, And yeah, it actually comes out

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<v Speaker 1>nine months before The Maltese Falcon, which is sometimes considered

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<v Speaker 1>the first big film noir picture, but it also ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>depends on how you slice it. You can also reach

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<v Speaker 1>back into the thirties for possible examples of forerunners in

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<v Speaker 1>the genre. And also, this is a picture that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>to understand wasn't actually viewed a lot after its initial release.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of built up a following over time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so your selection this week got me really thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about what is it that makes a movie film noir.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know exactly what the primary criteria are.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those things where it's defined by a

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<v Speaker 3>number of different sort of plot conventions and stylistic conventions.

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<v Speaker 3>And if a movie has a critical mass, if it

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<v Speaker 3>has enough of these different things in it, then it

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<v Speaker 3>starts to feel like noir. But I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>the core things are. Though you mentioned a minute ago

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<v Speaker 3>The Maltese Falcon, the Humphrey Bogart movie and I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like that's kind of the prototype film noir, right, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's or the archetype. I don't know which is the

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<v Speaker 3>right term there. It's like it's the type example that

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<v Speaker 3>you think of, or at least that I think of

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<v Speaker 3>for film noir. So it has a tough, cynical detective.

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<v Speaker 3>It has a lot of people running around chasing after money,

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<v Speaker 3>It has cynical crime themes. It has a maybe somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>gloomy outlook on human nature, but also has a sense

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<v Speaker 3>of humor, a kind of dark sense of humor. And

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, it has an actor in common with the

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<v Speaker 3>movie we're going to be talking about today, because a

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<v Speaker 3>major character actor in the Maltese Falcon is Peter Lourie

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<v Speaker 3>in the role of Joel Cairo, who is the main

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<v Speaker 3>character in the face behind the mask. So I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>almost to the same extent that I associate Humphrey Bogart

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<v Speaker 3>with noir, I also associate Peter Lourie with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. If you're cooking film noir, either during this

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<v Speaker 1>time period or in later decades, Peter Lourie, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least the ghost of Peter Laurie, is very much on

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<v Speaker 1>the spice Rack, as is Humphrey Bogart, as are various

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<v Speaker 1>other elements. Like you can also throw in things that

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<v Speaker 1>are not president in this picture, such as the fem fatale.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very often an employed to some degree in a

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<v Speaker 1>noir picture. So there are, yeah, all these different things

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<v Speaker 1>that may or may not be added to the finished product.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you taste the soup, you know, ah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is film noir.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, cigarettes, fried eggs, black coffee, revolvers, Fedoras, trench coats.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's going on here. And Peter Lourie is part

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<v Speaker 3>of the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So as far as weird House cinema selections go,

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<v Speaker 1>it's notable that this is our This is only our

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<v Speaker 1>fourth selection from the nineteen forties, following Doctor Cyclops, The

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<v Speaker 1>Beast with Five Fingers, and The Devil Bad. It's our

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<v Speaker 1>second picture directed by Robert Florey, and our third Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Lori picture. It's also one of our infrequent picks to

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<v Speaker 1>not feature a speculative element, though I would say it's

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<v Speaker 1>weird enough in its own way for our purposes. I

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<v Speaker 1>also want to stress that this film is also very

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<v Speaker 1>strongly a melodrama, so it's not subtle in its manipulation

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<v Speaker 1>of the heart strings. You know, it's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a morality play. Well, so it's yeah, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good picture. I was really pleased with. It is

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<v Speaker 1>one that's kind of been on my short list for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Often held up as one of Laurie's

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<v Speaker 1>best performances. A picture where he is the lead and

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<v Speaker 1>gets to bust out a number of his tools and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not just be the villain or a side

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<v Speaker 1>villain or a side quirky character. He is the main

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<v Speaker 1>event here.

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<v Speaker 3>This, this really is a look at my range movie

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<v Speaker 3>for Peter Loriie. There are some scenes where he is

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<v Speaker 3>so wholesome and so precious, He's just cute, adorable, wonderful,

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<v Speaker 3>other scenes where he is the creepiest creep and he

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<v Speaker 3>gets to do both in the same film.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So for like an absolute Peter Lourie picture, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this and Mad Love or I think Neck and Neck.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't, they don't, But each film hit slightly different notes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't get the same array of Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Lourie in both films, but added together, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>get to see so many different colors from him.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're also right in saying that this is not

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<v Speaker 3>a subtle film. I mean, this is not a film

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<v Speaker 3>where the drama takes place reading between the lines. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all on the lines here. So there are extremely overt

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<v Speaker 3>monologues in which the themes of the film are pretty

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<v Speaker 3>explicitly stated, and we get like swelling music while they're delivered,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're delivered in almost kind of a stage performance way.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, characters kind of borderline shout their lines and

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<v Speaker 3>they're full of overt passion. But if you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you know that's what you're in for, it's not really

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<v Speaker 3>a bad thing. It's just a different way to tell

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<v Speaker 3>a story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Another point about this picture we'll keep coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to is that it's a pretty fast ride. This film's

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<v Speaker 1>only sixty nine minutes long, and I think it's the

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<v Speaker 1>rare weird house cinema selection where I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it is long enough. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I needed a little bit more from it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what we have is tremendous, but you know, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see scenes that are alluded to but not shown

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<v Speaker 1>to us. And yeah, it doesn't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time to even necessarily further explore some of the ideas

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<v Speaker 1>that it brings up, which you know isn't necessarily a

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Many of the most pivotal scenes in the plot happen

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<v Speaker 3>off screen. They're like the big turning points are like

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<v Speaker 3>you see what's leading up to it, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>see the characters talking about it afterwards, but you don't

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<v Speaker 3>see the thing itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, so it's like Frank Herbert would

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<v Speaker 1>dig that. But it's like, it's not battle scenes that

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<v Speaker 1>are left out, you know, it's not like big budget

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<v Speaker 1>things that I don't know, you know, maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>a budgetary decision to not show some of like the

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<v Speaker 1>key heists that become important later on, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they make a lot out of the time they have here.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think they left out the safe cracking scene?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was it cut for content that was just

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<v Speaker 3>like too spicy for audiences at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I really Yeah, we'll talk about when

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<v Speaker 1>we get to that point in the plot, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to see this first big heist that

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<v Speaker 1>that Jagosh is involved in. But more on that in

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I am, by no means an expert in film noir,

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<v Speaker 3>but I associate several different plot types with this genre.

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<v Speaker 3>The most common, I would say, is the private detective story.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, somebody shows up with a strange case for

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<v Speaker 3>a private detective, and the detective goes down the rabbit hole,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, figuring out all the twists and turns and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. Maltese Falcon is of that sort. But if

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<v Speaker 3>there is a second type of plot structure I most

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<v Speaker 3>associate with film noir, it is the plot that we

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<v Speaker 3>get in the face behind the mask, which is an

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<v Speaker 3>originally good hearted person is lured or forced into a

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<v Speaker 3>life of crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fallen angel, breaking bad, yes, you know. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the interesting things about it is that this

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<v Speaker 1>is of course also an immigrant story, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>good person at the heart of this is someone who

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<v Speaker 1>is entering America for the first time and has all

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<v Speaker 1>these ideas and all these dreams, dreams that he has absorbed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from Afar, the American dream, and so his

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<v Speaker 1>fall is also about realizing the flaws and the American

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<v Speaker 1>dream and the things that you know, that he had

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<v Speaker 1>built up in his head that just aren't part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that his hopes are sort of crash against the

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<v Speaker 3>rocks of reality and of circumstances beyond his control, and

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<v Speaker 3>that just happens over and over until he is forced

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<v Speaker 3>into becoming the gang story that he once feared.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Now, I don't have any trailer audio

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<v Speaker 1>for this one, but if you want a little dash

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<v Speaker 1>of the trailer audio, look up Joe Dante's Trailers from

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<v Speaker 1>Hell feature on it. It's pretty fun. It's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Dante talking a little bit about this picture and

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<v Speaker 1>then sharing some audio and video from the trailer. But

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find that trailer anywhere else for us to sample,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll just say go ahead and check out what

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Dante has to share about that trailer. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>might be wondering at this point, Hey, I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>Face behind the Mask. I'd like to before continuing on

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<v Speaker 1>with the episode. Well, fair enough. I support that. This one, however,

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<v Speaker 1>is not, to my knowledge, currently available in the US

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<v Speaker 1>on disc, but it is currently part of the streaming

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<v Speaker 1>options over at the Criterion channel. That's the streaming platform

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<v Speaker 1>and app brought to you by the Criterion Collection. The

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<v Speaker 1>Face behind the Mask is currently featured as part of

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<v Speaker 1>their Noir November Essentials collection. We don't champion a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of streaming options on stuff to blow your mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Criterion Channel is, in my unpaid four opinion, here

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<v Speaker 1>a great streaming option for film fans. You can try

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<v Speaker 1>it for free for a week, you know that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. But you can watch everything from Brida Frankenstein

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<v Speaker 1>and Scanners to the Story of Ricky and Raising Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have some really tantalizing playlists of films, including

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<v Speaker 1>I was just looking at it this morning. There's one

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<v Speaker 1>that's just synth scores, so all sorts of cool electronic

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<v Speaker 1>scores for the pictures selected. And then they have one

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<v Speaker 1>that's just hopping vampires, so it's like, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>all just mister Vampire pictures. And of course we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the first Mister Vampire film on the show a

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<v Speaker 1>while back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, also in my unpaid for opinion, I greatly enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>the Criterion Channel, though I should issue a warning to

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<v Speaker 3>people because I was confused by this at first. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't assume just because a movie has a Criterion Collection

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<v Speaker 3>release that it will be featured streaming on the Criterion Channel.

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<v Speaker 3>Some movies have a disc from Criterion, but they're not

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<v Speaker 3>on there. But it's still a good channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and likewise, there are plenty of pictures on there

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think have discs on Criterion, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's a great selection, and a number of weird

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<v Speaker 1>house cinema pictures are in there as of this recording.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's run through some of the people involved here.

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<v Speaker 1>The director is, of course Robert Florey, who lived nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred through nineteen seventy nine. Industrial strength French American director

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<v Speaker 1>who worked from the twenties through the sixties, amassing one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighteen credits and just really cranking out pictures

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<v Speaker 1>during the nineteen thirties. His early career was apparently more

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<v Speaker 1>avant garde expressionism, but he became one of these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like cinematic workhorse types of guys from a purely

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<v Speaker 1>horror standpoint. He's perhaps best known for directing Murders in

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<v Speaker 1>the Rue Morgue in nineteen thirty two, based on the

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<v Speaker 1>Edgar Allen post story and starring Hungarian American film legend Lagosi,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as ape suit legend Charles Goemora. Also of

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<v Speaker 1>note was the noir film Daughter of Shanghai from thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>That one featured a female Chinese American elite in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of Anime Wong, another legendary name from a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of noir pictures, as well as Korean American actor Philip An.

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<v Speaker 1>Flori is also noted for having been the initial director

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<v Speaker 1>on nineteen thirty one's Frankenstein with Lego we see attached

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<v Speaker 1>to play the monster during those early stages before Legosi

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<v Speaker 1>like leaving the picture because he didn't want to play

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<v Speaker 1>like this. You know what we might think of is

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<v Speaker 1>just like a killing machine Frankenstein monster. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Flories ends up being replaced by James Whale,

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<v Speaker 1>and we get the nineteen thirty one Frankenstein that we

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<v Speaker 1>all know and love. Florie later directed a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>TV and his last film credit is an episode film

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<v Speaker 1>or TV credit is an episode of the original Outer

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<v Speaker 1>Limits series titled Moonstone. He also did three Twilight Zone episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, as far as the story and screenplay

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<v Speaker 1>here goes, there are four different names, some of which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of information on. Apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>story is based on a radio play called Interim by

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Edward O'Connell who lived nineteen fifteen through nineteen sixty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find out much about this. The screenplay for

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<v Speaker 1>the film, however, was apparently very much put together with

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Lourie in mind for the lead. Let's see author

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<v Speaker 1>Levinson has a story credit note relation obviously to I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a contemporary author Levinson who's involved with like

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<v Speaker 1>Apple computers or something different. Guy. There's Alan Vincent who

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<v Speaker 1>has a screenplay credit, who lived nineteen oh three through

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine, actor and screenwriter who appeared in such

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<v Speaker 1>films as nineteen thirty three's Mystery of the Wax Museum.

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<v Speaker 1>This is his first screenplay credit. And then we also

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<v Speaker 1>have a screenplay credit for Paul Jericho, who lived nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen through nineteen ninety seven. OSCAR nominated American screenwriter here

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<v Speaker 1>for nineteen forty two's Tom Dick and Harry, who was

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<v Speaker 1>later blacklisted during the McCarthy era for his ties to

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<v Speaker 1>the Communist Party and alleged subversive content. During this time, though,

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<v Speaker 1>he produced the nineteen fifty four film Salt of the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a project that entailed a handful of other

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<v Speaker 1>blacklisted filmmakers and was well received and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>continues to be well received. Often worked uncredited or under

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<v Speaker 1>a pseudonym his other and it's also included nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two's All Night Long, All Right, But of course our

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<v Speaker 1>star playing Janosh Johnny Zabo, we have Peter Lorii. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh four through nineteen sixty four. Austro Hungarian actor

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<v Speaker 1>of Jewish descent who made it big in Fritz Lung's

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<v Speaker 1>Im Back in thirty one, sometimes singled out as an

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<v Speaker 1>early noir picture, are certainly very influential on noir films

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<v Speaker 1>to follow, before he ended up fleeing the rise of

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<v Speaker 1>anti Semitism under the Nazi regime. A legendary character actor who,

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<v Speaker 1>of course appeared in one of our first Weird House

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<v Speaker 1>Cinema episodes covering nineteen thirty five's Mad Love. He is

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<v Speaker 1>best remembered for his various roles in such noir mainstays

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<v Speaker 1>as Casablanca, Maltese Falcon thrillers like nineteen thirty four's The

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<v Speaker 1>Man Who Knew Too Much, as well as such horror

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<v Speaker 1>films as nineteen sixty three as The Raven, and even

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<v Speaker 1>such big budget productions as nineteen fifty four to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand Leagues under the Sea. He wrote and directed a

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<v Speaker 1>single film, nineteen fifty one's the Lost One, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was technically the first actor to play a Bond villain,

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<v Speaker 1>appearing in the nineteen fifty four TV adaptation of Casino Royale.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Thing that was an adaptation of Casino

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<v Speaker 3>Royale that had Barry Nelson as James Bond. Barry Nelson

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<v Speaker 3>is the guy who plays the hotel manager at the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of the shining. He's like the guy hiring Jack Nicholson.

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<v Speaker 1>This is back when James Bond was played by an

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<v Speaker 1>American and presented as an American character.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so good, But man, I would watch Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Laurie as La Chief that that'd be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm whatever else is going on, Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Peter Laurie is such an intriguing icon, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like iconic in ways that are hard to overstress, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like he becomes this like you go ack and you

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<v Speaker 1>watch old Bugs Bunny cartoons and they'll have a Peter

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<v Speaker 1>louri character. I think plenty of people still like doing

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<v Speaker 1>like if you have I have a Dungeons and Waggin's

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<v Speaker 1>character that uses a Peter Lorrie voice. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people haven't leave even Dungeon Masters

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<v Speaker 1>have probably done some version of a Peter Lourie voice

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. You know, he's just he's that iconic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's so iconic that my Christoph Lambert voice is

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<v Speaker 3>actually a Peter Lorrie voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's just tremendous, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was frequently typecast as sinister foreigners, and his career

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<v Speaker 1>has some real ups and downs, absolutely, but especially during

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<v Speaker 1>his prime here, he's always there's always something about his performance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a treat. And this is a film much like Madlove,

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<v Speaker 1>where we get to enjoy him as the star of

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<v Speaker 1>the picture. He gets to play a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>notes in his performance that we don't otherwise get to experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to point out too, that he was thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six when they filmed this, and he looks thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are different points where they would call him

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<v Speaker 1>like kid or are they talking about him as if

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<v Speaker 1>he's like this young boy who just in America. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's clearly a grown man, but fair enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I don't know. Early in the film, he's

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<v Speaker 3>so full of hope. He almost has a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>newborn quality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, he is totally bought into the American

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<v Speaker 1>mythology that he's been presented with, and yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>overflowing with optimism and it is a bit naive, as

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<v Speaker 1>we'll discuss, all right. So that's Peter Laurie. More on

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<v Speaker 1>his performance as we proceed. The love interest here, the

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<v Speaker 1>eventual blind love interest for our protagonist is the character

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<v Speaker 1>Helen Williams, played by Evelyn Keyes who lived nineteen sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>through two thousand and eight. She was an American actress

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<v Speaker 1>who played supporting roles in some pretty big films, including

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty nine's Gone with the Wind and nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five's The Seven Year Itch. Other credits include nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one's The Prowler and then much later in her career,

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Cohen's A Return to Salem's Lot in nineteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were just mentioning there's a part of the

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<v Speaker 3>movie where where Peter Lourie is full of hope and optimism,

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<v Speaker 3>but the character of Helen appears later in the film

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<v Speaker 3>after all of Peter Laurie's hope and optimism is gone,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's sort of like the energy beat. She's like

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<v Speaker 3>an energy weapon of happiness, just blasting into the film

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<v Speaker 3>from orbit, and you know what it's like. She really

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<v Speaker 3>does completely change the tone of the movie when she appears.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course, you know, this is film noir, so

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna have to play this romance for tragedy ultimately.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I mean she's great in this. She's delightful,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, totally buy into this, this light of optimism

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<v Speaker 1>you know that she brings. But also like obviously she's

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<v Speaker 1>a doomed angel, you know, like, yeah, you know where

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<v Speaker 1>this is going. Too good for this world, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We also have Don Beto playing Lieutenant James Jim O'Hara.

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<v Speaker 1>He lived nineteen oh three through nineteen ninety one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a sympathetic New York police officer who helps Janosher

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<v Speaker 1>early on. Played by an American character actor whose credits

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<v Speaker 1>include nineteen fifty five Is the Night of the Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen forty six is The Best Years of Our Lives.

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<v Speaker 1>He performed on Broadway prior to this movie and prior

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<v Speaker 1>to his going into film and television. According to Joe Dante,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an actor known for a lot of milk toast rolls,

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<v Speaker 1>but he thinks this is one of his best performances,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we have the character of Dinky. Dinky. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the character that really surprised me because I came

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<v Speaker 1>into this expecting the great Peter Lorrie performance. But I

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<v Speaker 1>really think George E. Stone is terrific here as Dinky,

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<v Speaker 1>the criminal with a heart of gold.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the guy who he just can't he can't stop

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<v Speaker 3>doing crime, but he's actually a really nice guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he didn't want to do crimes, but like, things

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<v Speaker 1>keep happening and he keeps falling back down the ladder,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he has no choice, you know. Yeah. Stone

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<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen oh three through nineteen sixty seven. Published born

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<v Speaker 1>American actor of vaudeville, Broadway, film, and TV. Played a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of scrappy Prohibition era New York characters often described

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<v Speaker 1>as runyon esque. This is not really terminology I was

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with, but this is a reference to the writings

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<v Speaker 1>of author Damon Runyon, who invoked a lot of colorful

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<v Speaker 1>New York City slang in his writings.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so like when we very first meet Dinky,

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<v Speaker 3>he comes out of the shadows to pick up the

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<v Speaker 3>wallet that was dropped by like a wealthy you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street trader who gets scared by Peter Lorii's face

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the movie scene and Dinky he

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<v Speaker 3>picks up the wallet and he goes like, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 3>see what Sandy Claus left for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, I didn't know what runyon esque was beforehand,

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<v Speaker 1>but now that I've seen this performance and I have

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<v Speaker 1>heard the word, now I can recognize runyon esque elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in pictures, Like there are definitely characters in Santa Claus

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<v Speaker 1>Conquers the Marsh that are runing esque. Yeah, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they're Martians. I don't know why they're runying esque, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, Stone is terrific in this his film roles.

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<v Speaker 1>Other film roles include nineteen thirty one's Little Caesar, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fives Guys and Dolls, and nineteen fifty nine Some

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<v Speaker 1>Like It Hot. Yeah, it's a great performance. Like, he's

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<v Speaker 1>very likable and he has a lot of heart, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is a characters will discuss that very much saves

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<v Speaker 1>Janosh at a very dark point in his life. Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to the extent that this movie has a villain, like

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<v Speaker 1>a centralized individual villain, it is jeff Jeffries. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>his full name would be Jeffrey Jeff jeffries a man

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<v Speaker 1>so Jeff they named him twice, played by James c

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<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen fourteen through nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 3>I was banging my head trying to figure out where

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<v Speaker 3>I recognized this guy from because he was very familiar,

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<v Speaker 3>and I finally realized it was from a Miracle on

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<v Speaker 3>thirty fourth Street.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, who does he play in that?

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I think there are two psychiatrists in it,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's like the one mean one who's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>the antagonist, and then there's the one nice one. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's the nice one. I could be remembering

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<v Speaker 3>that wrong, but I know he's in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a very memorable chin, and in this picture anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>has very memorable shoulders, Like Jeff's suit has shoulders so

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<v Speaker 1>broad that they made me think of the Dick Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>villain shoulders, Like it's basically the same dimensions. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's absolutely towering over all the shorter character actors in

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<v Speaker 1>the picture. Like, his shoulders are as broad as Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie is like long if you laid him out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's how broad these shoulders are. It's ridiculous. It's

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<v Speaker 1>laugh inducing at least from our modern perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>The effect created by his outfit. And it's a standard forties,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, gang member outfit. So it's a suit with

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<v Speaker 3>a black fedora, you know, big shoulder pads, the vest

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<v Speaker 3>of the tie. And if this makes any sense, it

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<v Speaker 3>has the effect of like he's in football pads. He's

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<v Speaker 3>fully suited up. He's suited up for game time.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I end up having this like real reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to him too, because like Laurie is obviously like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a much shorter guy. You know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>not leading your typical leading man material, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>he really I attached to Peter Laurie more is like

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<v Speaker 1>he is like a nerd, you know, he's one of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jeff Jefferies is total jock here. James c is

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<v Speaker 1>like total jock mode, and like it's instantly I identify

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<v Speaker 1>him as a danger to our our hero and our

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<v Speaker 1>icon here.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's there's a scene where Peter Lourie like beats

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<v Speaker 3>him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and makes us believe it. Like I like we

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<v Speaker 1>build up to that encounter and I'm like, Okay, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna make me believe this? Like this dude

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<v Speaker 1>is enormous, but you know, Laurie does it. But uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>See See pops up in a number of different things,

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<v Speaker 1>so you might have seen him in things like fifty ones,

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<v Speaker 1>The Day the Earth Stood Still, fifty four's Killers from

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Outer Space, and I think I probably recognize. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who he was in this because I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it forever because nobody will put it out on disk,

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<v Speaker 1>But nineteen fifty seven is the amazing Colossal Man. Also

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<v Speaker 1>features a James ce.

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<v Speaker 3>Roll Oh and Rob you had this note. He was

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<v Speaker 3>also in the Beginning of the End, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>Burt Eye Gordon film. This is the one with the

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<v Speaker 3>giant grasshoppers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's another one. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen that one in full. And he's not the

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<v Speaker 1>star in that one. He's like, you know, mid cast.

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<v Speaker 1>That one stars Peter Graves.

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<v Speaker 3>I think See Here was known for often playing like

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<v Speaker 3>a military commander or some government bureaucrat. He's like somebody

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<v Speaker 3>you would cut away to and they're just giving orders. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he's got a more substantial role in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>But it does turn out because I've seen Beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the End and I've seen some of these other sci

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<v Speaker 3>fi movies, so it's not just Miracle on thirty fourth Street.

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<v Speaker 3>I know him from him, but that is what was

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind when I was seeing him here in

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<v Speaker 3>his crime uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right. Two more behind the scenes credits to mention.

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<v Speaker 1>Franz Planner, who HAVED eighteen ninety four through nineteen sixty three,

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>is the cinematographer Austria, Hungarian cinematographer and five time Oscar nominee.

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>His other credits include nineteen fifty threes The five Thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Fingers of Doctor t that is one that has been

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<v Speaker 1>recommended for Weird House numerous times, also Roman Holiday, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as nineteen fifty fourth twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course has Peter Lourie and it's a pretty

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>vast ensemble cast. And then finally, Sidney Kuttner is credited

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>with music on this nineteen oh three through nineteen seventy one.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is all pretty much stock music, I'm to understand,

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>and there are some other music credits in there that

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<v Speaker 1>are clearly labeled as stock. So you know, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>out of the ordinary as far as the music for

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Face Behind the Mask, but it's effective it does the job.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice and melodramatic, all right, So I guess we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing the plot now. So the movie opens with some

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 3>text gives us the setting, and it says it's set

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<v Speaker 3>just a few years ago, when a voyage to America

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<v Speaker 3>an adventure, not flight, when a quota was a number,

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<v Speaker 3>not a lottery prize to be captured by a lucky few.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 3>I guess the contrast between adventure and flight there being

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<v Speaker 3>that this movie was released during World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, it's already kind of like calling back

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<v Speaker 1>to the inter war period here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So we see a boat streaming into harbor in

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<v Speaker 3>New York City, passing in front of the Statue of Liberty,

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 3>and on the musical track, the orchestra plays a couple

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 3>of bars of my country tis of thee when we

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<v Speaker 3>see the statue. So again, this movie is not subtle.

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>No, it lays it on pretty thick.

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<v Speaker 3>And then on the boat, two passengers gaze out over

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 3>the water. So there's one man who's sort of taller

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 3>with a mustache, looking a little bit hopeful, but his

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>expression is more tempered and he walks away, leaving only

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 3>the other guy there. The other guy in the background

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 3>is Peter Lourie looking out at the scene with wide eyed,

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:20.239
<v Speaker 3>almost childlike giddiness. And this is our protagonist Janosh, a

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<v Speaker 3>watchmaker by trade who is a new arrival to America

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>from Hungary. Yanosh approaches a crew member on the deck

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>of the ship with excitement and he asks him for

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 3>a match, and the kindly man offers him a match,

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.719
<v Speaker 3>and then Janosh says, no, thank you, I don't smoke.

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 3>And then he asks for the time. The man tells

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 3>him it's a quarter past ten. Yanosh checks his own

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 3>watch and agrees that is indeed the time. Janosh then

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 3>reveals with an infectious giggle that he is simply practicing

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 3>his English and again, I can't drive home enough. How

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 3>sweet Peter Lourie is at the beginning here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, he really is. There's a childlike innocence here.

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<v Speaker 3>So he points out over the water at the Statue

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<v Speaker 3>of Liberty and he says, look, she's beautiful, and the

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 3>boat worker agrees, says, yeah, I'd love to see it

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 3>every time every time we come into port here, and

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Janosh then shows him a picture of a woman folded

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<v Speaker 3>in his wallet in his wallet and says, she is

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>very beautiful too. This is his beloved Maria. Yanosh explains

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 3>that after he establishes himself in America, she's going to

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 3>make the journey to join him, and then they will

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<v Speaker 3>be married when she arrives. So Yanosh arrives on the

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 3>streets of New York and we see him walking around.

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<v Speaker 3>He stops a stranger to ask him where he can

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<v Speaker 3>find a good hot and cold water hotel, and the

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 3>stranger gives him directions to the Carlton Plaza. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>go six blocks up, one block over, two blocks to

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<v Speaker 3>the left, and then he says, they're waiting for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this went over my head a bit, but

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<v Speaker 3>I assume the joke is that this is a ridiculously

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<v Speaker 3>fancy hotel and they're waiting for you, as like their

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<v Speaker 3>their advertising slogan or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's the dig here.

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<v Speaker 3>But then up the street, Janos stops to buy a

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 3>juice from a street vendor and discovers that all of

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 3>his money is gone. The fifty nine dollars he arrived

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 3>with it's all missing from his wallet. So he runs

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 3>to a nearby policeman for help.

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and at this point he's like he's begging

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the policeman to help him, and again we have more

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of this like over the top a naivety and an

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>optimism from Janosh. But he has this line though, that

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>is so dumb that it does actually succeed in being

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>really funny. He's like, I've been gangstered. But but then

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he like calms down a bit like the This is

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<v Speaker 1>where we meet O'Hara for the first time, and O'Hara

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>is here to sort of talk him down, and it's like,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, well, buddy, when when did you last see

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>your money? And then he's able to get Janos to

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>calm down enough to realize, oh, I still have the

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>money on me.

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I have it under my shirt, that's right. So I

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>was afraid in this scene. Oh no, he's going to

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 3>run into a crooked cop who's going to double skin him.

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 3>But fortunately the detective he meets is friendly and helpful,

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 3>so O'Hara talks him through it, and then he remembers

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 3>he was listening to a man on the boat talk

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 3>about gangsters in America and he became afraid. And you know,

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if the like Tommy Gunn Gangster was

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<v Speaker 3>as big a media sensation at this point in American

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 3>history as it had been like a decade earlier. I

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 3>think of like the early thirties as the heyday of

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 3>the you know, the big gangster stories about John Dillinger

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 3>and so forth. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but yeah,

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if that's sort of what they're playing on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, at any rate, we're all familiar with

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the sort of chewed up by the big city trope,

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>which of course is reflected in that wonderful Simpsons episode

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>where Homer has to come back to New York City

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to pay for to get a boot off of his car. Right, yes,

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's just you know, absolute I d in his

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>mind that this is a hell city that will you know,

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>that will come at you. So yeah, I was afraid

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>too that Yanosh was about to run into another scam

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and just be all the worse off for it.

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because in that Simpsons episode there's a scene

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>where he gets his camera stolen, then he goes to

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 3>complain to a police officer, and then the police officer

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>steals his suitcase. But anyway, like you said, he remembers

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 3>that he just hid his money in the shirt he

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 3>finds it again. So everything's okay. Then the policeman takes

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Yanosh for a cold drink of some kind. It looks

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 3>like they're having like an ice cream float. They're at

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 3>a soda shop and Janosh tells O'Hara about all of

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 3>his hopes and dreams. He wants to get a job

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and make money, then bring Marie over the ocean with

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 3>him to get married, and then have children. He wants

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 3>to have his sons follow him into his trade, which

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 3>is watchmaking and watch repair. And Ohara tries to help

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Yanosh by telling him, Hey, I know of a hotel

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 3>that's clean, comfortable and cheap. You go to the Excelsior.

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 3>It's run by a guy named Finnegan. So he gives

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 3>him directions sends him on his way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, at the.

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Hotel, Yanosh not only rents a room, but he gets

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 3>a job washing dishes at the cafe on the ground floor,

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 3>where it seems like he does extremely good work. We

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 3>see a scene of him efficiently drying off plates and

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 3>teacups while singing to himself. The gist is that Yanosh

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 3>is a machine. He's a real good worker, and he's

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 3>friendly to boot.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Now at this hotel, we learned from the manager. There

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 3>are a couple of rules if you're a guest. First

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 3>of all, no ironing for some reason. I think he

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 3>says it overloads the circuits or something. But then the

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 3>other thing is no cooking your own food. And the

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 3>reason given is explicitly that the cafe is not making

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 3>enough money and the hotel needs the business from the guests,

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 3>so you can't make your own food. Well, one night,

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 3>we see Yanosh relaxing in his hotel bed after a

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>long shift at work. He's sort of chattering away lovingly

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:55.240
<v Speaker 3>to his photo of Maria, and then meanwhile, in another room,

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>a guest is doing such wickedness. He is breaking one

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 3>of the two amandments. He is cooking in his room,

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 3>and we get a close up of his little hot plate,

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 3>and unfortunately, the black and white photography is not kind

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 3>to whatever he's cooking in this spot. It's some gleaming,

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 3>wretched slop. It looks like he's boiling glass beads in

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 3>a broth of nail polish. It does not look good.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can figure out what this was. It was like,

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>is he doing like some sort of reduction of marachino

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>cherries or something. I don't know.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's like tasting it. He's stirring it with a

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 3>fork and tasting yum, yum yum. Well, old man Finn again,

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 3>the guy who runs this place. He's roaming the halls,

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 3>sniffing around at the doors for illegal cookery, and he

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 3>detects He detects the cooking, so he zeros in on

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 3>the culprit, pulls up a ladder and tries to snoop

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 3>through the transom over the door to the room. But

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 3>the guest wises up real quick. He realized he hears

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 3>something outside, and then he hides his hot plate and

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 3>the pot of stew in the drawer of his wooden dresser.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Seems like a predictable outcome from this, so the guest

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 3>like he hides it in the dresser and then he

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 3>puts on a hat and coat leaves the room. He

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.760
<v Speaker 3>gives a wink to the old man that the manager.

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 3>He's like, ah, I thought you could catch me, huh. Now,

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 3>as you might guess, putting the hot plate and the

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 3>pot inside the wooden furniture starts a fire, and the

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 3>fire grows out of control and then rages through the hotel.

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 3>So this scene turns horrifying. Yano should have been having such

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 3>a sweet time earlier. He was doing well at work. He's,

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, dreaming about his beloved. Suddenly he's awoken to

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 3>find himself in a crumbling inferno. He tries to escape

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 3>the hotel, but he is hit by falling debris and

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 3>he ends up badly injured, very badly burned. By the way,

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to point out rob there's one part

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 3>where he's like coming down the stairs and he's hit

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 3>by burning debris that falls from above and then tumbles

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>over the staircase railing. I just thought this was a

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 3>pretty impressive and dangerous looking stunt. I don't know how

0:36:58.600 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 3>they pulled this off.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure. Like the stunt double of they

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 1>have for Lori here, I assume it's a stunt double

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>and looks just like him, And yeah, very terrifying. I

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:14.240
<v Speaker 1>tend to find most fire effects terrifying in films these days,

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it absolutely feels like a raging inferno here.

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>So Yanos survives and he's taken to the hospital, but

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:25.280
<v Speaker 3>he has suffered extensive third degree burns over his face

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 3>and head, and we see him in his hospital bed

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.240
<v Speaker 3>with his head wrapped up completely in bandages like a mummy,

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 3>and his policeman friend O'Hara comes to the hospital showing concern.

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 3>He says he feels responsible for Yanosh's injuries because he's

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 3>the one who sent him to that hotel, and he

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 3>pays for some of his care. I think he gives

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 3>five dollars to pay for his hospital care, and then

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.720
<v Speaker 3>he leaves a business card for Yanosh, writing a note

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 3>on the back that he should call him when he's recovered.

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or I think the wording is something like when

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>things are okay. It's a little bit more vague, and

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be important later on. That's right.

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I think it says call me when okay. So Janosh

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 3>retains the use of his hands, but as the healing

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 3>process goes on, it becomes clear that he's going to

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 3>have extensive scarring on his face and he will never

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 3>look the same. The scene where the doctor removes his

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 3>bandages is extremely dark and it's played like a horror film.

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 3>The doctor draws the shades on the window and then

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 3>covers the mirror in the corner of the room before

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 3>he takes the wrappings off. And while the doctor is

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 3>removing everything. Yanosh is still his friendly, optimistic self. He's

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 3>going on and on about how he's excited to go

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 3>back out and look for work. He's talking about how

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 3>he's saying, I'm very skilled with my hands. I have

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 3>experience as a watchmaker, but also in other mechanical jobs.

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I once worked in an airplane factory. I even flew

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.399
<v Speaker 3>airplanes when I was in the Armed Forces. And so

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 3>he's going on about the future. He's very hopeful. But

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.879
<v Speaker 3>once his face is revealed, the nurses in the room

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 3>shut their eyes and WinCE. One nurse even walks into

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 3>the room and screams in horror.

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this scene instantly made me think of a nineteen

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine Batman, the Tim Burton picture. We have that

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>great scene with the removal of the bandages on Jack

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Nicholson's joker in that and you know it's not you know,

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>one to one here. But I can't help but ponder

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to what extent like this picture and what other pictures

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>may have influenced that scene.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, I see strong similarity. I would agree

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 3>it's a likely influence. But of course, you know, these

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>reactions they start to alarm you and ocean he becomes upset,

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 3>so he runs to the mirror, pulls away the towel

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 3>that's hiding the glass, and is confronted with his new face.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Every inch of it is scarred and it has sort

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 3>of a melted texture, And it's interesting that this is

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 3>basically the only time the movie actually gives you a

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 3>good look at his injuries after this scene. For a

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 3>long time, until there's another plot development, his face will

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 3>be always turned away from the camera or otherwise hidden.

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 3>At a certain point, he's going to acquire a customized

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 3>mask that makes him look like Peter Lourie again, but

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 3>a sort of altered lory, like Uncanny Laurie, And I

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 3>don't unless I'm forgetting it. There's really not any other

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 3>time they show him with his injuries.

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they we get, we get some pretty solid glances

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>of it, like in the mirror and so forth. But yeah,

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, they they don't show it to

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>us directly. It's focused more on him becoming a creature

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of the shadows and people, you know, having this terrible

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>reaction to seeing him. And then once the mask is acquired,

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 1>it is quite interesting because it gives it ends up

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>giving Janosh this kind of weird, almost otherworldly beauty. You know,

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>he's like like an angel, like a fallen angel certainly,

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, but this clearly this being that's caught between realities,

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Like it's smooths out Peter Laurie's face. So yeah, yeah,

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>he takes on this strange but not like, you know,

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>monstrous appearance. Yeah.

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.720
<v Speaker 3>So after seeing his face, Janosh temporarily loses his mind.

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.280
<v Speaker 3>He starts screaming where is my face? And he thrashes about,

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>shouting and attacking the doctor until finally he is forcefully sedated.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 3>So after this, some time passes and we see things

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 3>continuing to go bad for Yanosh. He goes out looking

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 3>for work, dressed in a black fedora and a dark

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 3>coat with the collar pulled up around his face to

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 3>hide himself. So he's dressed kind of like a cross

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 3>between your standard hard boiled PI but also a bit

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 3>of Dracula in there, somewhere in between the two. And

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 3>everywhere he goes, including a watchmaker shop and an airplane factory,

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 3>he asks for work, but he is turned away once

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 3>the boss sees his face. And there's some very gloomy

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 3>atmosphere in this part of the film, like I'm thinking

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.280
<v Speaker 3>particularly of the scene where he goes to the watchmaker's shop,

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 3>or it seems to be nighttime outside and the windows

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 3>are illuminated from inside, so he goes in to talk,

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 3>but once the watchmaker sees him, he's like, sorry, I

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 3>forgot to take the sign out of the window. We

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 3>don't have any positions and sends him away, and we

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 3>see Peter Lorie walking off down the sidewalk where he's

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 3>illuminated by like he should be illuminated by this lamp

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 3>that we see in the foreground, but it's like none

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 3>of the light touches him somehow, like he's just a

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 3>pure shadow from head to toe. Yeah, we see him

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 3>becoming increasingly desperate when he goes to talk to the

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 3>manager of the airplane factory, like he's turned away from

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 3>the camera, but he says, please, my face makes no

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 3>difference to how I can work with my hands, and

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 3>he's showing the manager his hands, but the manager just says, sorry,

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing doing here, and then we get maybe the

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 3>most heartbreaking scene in the entire film, a scene where

0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Janosh writes a letter to his love back home to Maria,

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 3>which we see part of it translated into English. And

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 3>the part we see says, I must hurt you, dear Maria,

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 3>just once, then you can forget me forever. I have

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 3>met a girl, a very pretty girl. We are going

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 3>to be married. Goodbye, Maria, forgive and forget Janosh. Obviously

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.959
<v Speaker 3>this is not true, but he can't face her now,

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 3>so he lies to make her move on with her life.

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 3>And this part was so.

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Sad, absolutely heartbreaking. This one legitally made me tear up

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>when I was watching the picture.

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:33.760
<v Speaker 3>But then we're going to get another slight reversal of fortune.

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 3>So here we come up on the scene where Yanosh

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 3>meets Dinky. Now, the setup to this scene visually is

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 3>very moody and beautiful. Yanosh is standing in his dark costume,

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 3>covered by the coat and the hat, at the railing

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 3>of a concrete walkway overlooking the ocean, and the moonlight

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>reflects off of the water and casts these white ripples

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 3>across the whole scene. It seems to imply Yana is

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>thinking about jumping from the railing and ending his life,

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 3>but hope comes through a series of unusual events. So

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 3>a well dressed man approaches Janosh to ask for a

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 3>match to light his cigar and This is kind of

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 3>interesting in how it plays on the very first thing

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 3>we ever heard from Yanosh, when he walks up to

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 3>the guy working on the boat at the beginning and

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 3>asks for a match to practice his English. This guy

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 3>comes up to ask for a match, and then Janosh

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 3>tries to give him one, but when the man sees

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Janosh's face up close, the cigar falls out of his

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 3>mouth and he runs away, screaming. Suddenly, from out of

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 3>the shadows behind a bunch of crates and barrels comes

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 3>a third man, and this is Dinky, who's going to

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 3>become a major character. Dinky notices that the well dressed

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 3>man dropped his wallet as he was running away, so

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 3>he approaches Yanosh without fear. He picks up the wallet

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, you know, oh, hey thought I was

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 3>a cop, didn't you. Well, let's see what Sandy Claus

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 3>left for us, And he starts going through the wallet,

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 3>and Dinky is a but he's also instantly likable, Like

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 3>he gets the cash out of the wallet and he's like, ah,

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 3>what a cheap skate, only twelve bucks, but he splits

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.879
<v Speaker 3>the cash with Yano. She gives him half, so they

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 3>introduce themselves to each other, and Dinky is a little squirrely,

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 3>but unlike everyone else, he doesn't react with horror at

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Yanosh's face. Instead, he treats him like a friend, like

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 3>when Yanosh is like, aren't you afraid of me? And

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Dicky says, what your face? Ah, that's nothing, And they

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 3>start talking about Yanosh's apparent thoughts of jumping from the wall,

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 3>and Dinky has has a kind of casual way of

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 3>bringing some cheer to the situation. He says, what do

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 3>you get out of being dead lying around in a grave?

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Ain't my idea of a good time? And he's a

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 3>sympathetic ear. Yanos starts to tell him about his troubles.

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 3>No one will give him work and no one will

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 3>look him in the face or talk to him, and

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Dinky says like, Hey, I'm looking, I'm looking at you,

0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking to you. Let me take you out for

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 3>a hot meat. So he takes him to eat and

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 3>takes him back to the hotel where he's crashing, and

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 3>they start to become fast friends.

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dinky almost has kind of a what a run

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and ask zen quality to him? You know he lives

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>very much in the moment that's right.

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 3>So back at Dinky's place, Dinky's like having a bath

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 3>and sermonizing to Yanosh about his life philosophy.

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh and by Dinky's place, we mean a hotel room

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that they were able to pay for for just one night,

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, because again Dinky lives in the moment is

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>one night at a time, you know.

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, So Dinky says, I've been on

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 3>my own since I was fifteen. I learned my lesson early.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 3>You got to go for the free rides in this world.

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 3>You got to grab everything you can for yourself before

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.240
<v Speaker 3>somebody else grabs it first. Only don't get too greedy.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 3>I grabbed one thing too many once and got free

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:52.280
<v Speaker 3>room and board in a reform school. And Yano says,

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 3>what you stole? And Dinky says, well, that's what they

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 3>called it. And Yanosh just like, but Dinky, it is

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 3>wrong to steal. You can't do wrong and find happiness

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:05.399
<v Speaker 3>in life. And here there was big like Lupita from

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Santa Claus energy.

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah. The morality play aspects of this

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>picture very interesting because it's like the police in this

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>picture are absolutely good. Criminals can go either way, and

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>then of course, Gianos, at least at this portion. In

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>this portion of the picture, is very much of the

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>idea that like there is an absolute right and wrong,

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>there is a firm line between the two, there is

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>no gray area, and you cannot cross over that line.

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Really, it's funny.

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 3>The cops in the movie are good, even though I

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 3>expected them to be crooked. The criminals are a mix.

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:45.399
<v Speaker 3>The really like bad lot are hiring managers.

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And they cast a bit of

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 1>shade too on the guy who dropped the wallet. I

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>think they were they were They prefer to him being

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:54.839
<v Speaker 1>like a Wall Street guy or something. Right.

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Dinky's attitude is like, what is he going to

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.280
<v Speaker 3>come back for this money? He's not gonna miss it. Yeah,

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 3>But Dinky also explains it's not like he really wants

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 3>to be in a life of crime the way he

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 3>thinks about it. He says, what do you get out

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 3>of going straight? I tried to go straight six or

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 3>seven times, but something always went wrong, something always happened.

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 3>So we sort of get the picture forming that Dinky

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 3>is a small time crook, but he's not really malicious.

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 3>He's kind of a sweetheart, and he keeps trying to

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 3>set things right, Like you find out that he's got

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 3>a mother living out on a farm in the Midwest,

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 3>hoping he'll come home sometime, and he keeps meaning to

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 3>save up some money so he can take some money

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:37.759
<v Speaker 3>and go back to her and help her buy a

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 3>chicken ranch she's always dreamed of and work on the

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 3>ranch with his mom, And it seems it's a really

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 3>sweet intention, but he just never manages to get it together,

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 3>often because of stuff outside of his control, like he

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.760
<v Speaker 3>They never say exactly what it is, but it's implied

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.879
<v Speaker 3>that Dinky has some kind of chronic disease that occasionally

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 3>flares up, and then he gets sick and has to

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 3>go to the hospital, which in the past has caused

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 3>him to lose whatever legitimate job he had at the time.

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 3>So then when he gets out of the hospital, he

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 3>has to do crime again. So they compare their attitudes.

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Janosh is is now very hopeless and fatalistic about his

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 3>situation in life. Dinky is relatively carefree. He says, Yanosh Is, like,

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen when we run out of the

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>money that we got tonight? Dinky's like, you know, something

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.400
<v Speaker 3>else always comes along he mentions that he has an

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 3>associate named Jeff. This will be Jeffrey, Jeff Jeffries who

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 3>is doing a stretch up the river, like doing time

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 3>in prison, and when he when he gets out, he

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.360
<v Speaker 3>will have plenty of jobs for the both of them. Janosh,

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 3>not fully understanding the criminal implications here, is like, oh

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 3>boy jobs, and he goes to sleep, dreaming that things

0:49:48.840 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 3>will turn up. So Dinky and Yano, who Dinky calls

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Yanosh Johnny. They go on living in cheaper and cheaper motels.

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.479
<v Speaker 3>You see a kind of montage of the like four

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 3>rent signs getting lower and lower prices, until finally they

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.800
<v Speaker 3>get thrown out of a real fleabag and they're living

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 3>in a junkyard. And Dinky at this point he's had

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:21.359
<v Speaker 3>some kind of health flare up. He's sick and in

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 3>need of a doctor. And here is where the plot

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 3>takes a turn. Dinky is supposed to go out on

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 3>a job tonight, but he's too sick, and he sends

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Janosh off to tell his associates that he's not going

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.280
<v Speaker 3>to be able to be there to do the job.

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Instead of that, Yanosh goes to his associates and pulls

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 3>the job off in Dinky Stead, and we learned that

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 3>the job was straight up crime. It was cracking into

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 3>a safe and pulling off a jewel heist. I think

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 3>we're to assume, you know, they talked multiple times before

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 3>about how Yanosh has skilled hands. He has mechanical skill

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 3>with his hands, So I think we're to assume that

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:02.240
<v Speaker 3>these skills transferred, you know, his watchmaker skills were transferable

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 3>to opening a locked safe.

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's got that eighteen dexterity, so he's able to

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>get in there and break into some safe. But yeah,

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 1>we don't see this heist, this this safe cracking scene

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>at all. It's alluded missing. Yeah, scene absolutely missing it.

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to have seen it, like I

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted to. I wanted to see like the gears turning

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>in Yanosh's head as he realizes like what this job is,

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>as he you know, actually you know, gets the determination

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>together to go ahead and pull it off, like this

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 1>seems like a great dramatic sequence that I guess it

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>was just never filmed, And I don't know what the

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 1>full story is here. If they never intended to, it's

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>just that's not the sort of picture it is, or

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>if it's something they were going to film and didn't

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:49.319
<v Speaker 1>have the funds for. I don't know.

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I would have liked to see

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 3>it too. But anyway, Janosh makes so much money from

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 3>the job he is able to take Dinky to the

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 3>doctor and get medicine to make him better. So Dinky's

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 3>recovering now. But while he's he's in bed and Ianosh

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 3>is there by his side, some tough guys show up

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 3>to demand money that Dinky owes them, and they're like, Hey,

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 3>this new guy's real good. Let's put him to work.

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Just another note, This doesn't feel like a comment on

0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 3>their character, or at least not an intentional one. But

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I should note that the other criminals also do not

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 3>seem phased by Janosh's scars the way that like anybody

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 3>who's offering a legitimate job does.

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is interesting, isn't it. I hadn't really thought

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.360
<v Speaker 1>about this as much, But they they just see the

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 1>dollar signs. They're like, Oh, this guy can crack a

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:39.279
<v Speaker 1>safe and in no time. Well, yeah, of course we

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 1>want to keep doing business with him. Yeah, but in

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:47.399
<v Speaker 1>ways that other legitimate businesses refuse to consider. On all

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:49.879
<v Speaker 1>these job interviews he was going for and so forth.

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, so the path is now on offer. They can

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.399
<v Speaker 3>keep lining up more jobs for yan Ocean. He can

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 3>make them all filthy rich. Now Yah There's initially does

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 3>not want this. He still thinks it is wrong to steal,

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 3>but Dinky knows how to make the appeal to him.

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 3>He's like, Janosh, I know what you want more than

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 3>anything else in the world. You want your face back.

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 3>And there are these people out there called I think

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 3>he calls them plastic doctors. He's talking about plastic surgeons.

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 3>He says, if you have enough money, they can they

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 3>can give you your old face back. And Yanosh is

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 3>entranced by this idea. He's like, really, I didn't even

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 3>know that was possible. So he says, could they fix

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 3>my face so that people can look at me? And

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 3>Dinky says, all you need is money. So it's impossible

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 3>for Janosh to resist. Now, a new face would be

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 3>a new life. So he's like, okay, crime me up,

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 3>I will do crime.

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 1>This bit of dialogue between Dinkie and Janosh it really

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 1>feels like the heart of the picture, and it's the

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 1>part of the picture that I feel like gives us

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the most to chew on and figuring out what its

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 1>message is. You know this bit where he's saying it's

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 1>being done every day. Yeah, all you have to have

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>is money, you know, buying yourself a new face and

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 1>so forth. Yeah, it's a lot to chew on. It's

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>really it's as if Dinky is really opening Janosh's eyes

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:13.239
<v Speaker 1>to the real American dream, Like here is the real

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.760
<v Speaker 1>America and this is how you climb here.

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:19.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So there's a scene where Yanosh goes to visit

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.360
<v Speaker 3>the plastic surgeon, but unfortunate, once he gets there, the

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 3>answer isn't as straightforward as Dinky led him to believe.

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting the surgeon isn't presented as giving him giving

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 3>him impossible promises. Instead, the surgeon seems to be fairly

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:41.879
<v Speaker 3>measured in his initial analysis. He's like, well, I'll need

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 3>to consult another doctor from the practice and compare notes,

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 3>but we think full reconstructive surgery would be expensive and protracted,

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 3>might not be possible at all. In the meantime, I

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.240
<v Speaker 3>can make you a rubber mask of your old face

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 3>based on your passport photo, and the mask will serve

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 3>until we can do a full rundown. And see what

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:02.080
<v Speaker 3>the prospects for surgery are.

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So Janosh is like, mask me up. Let's go

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>with the mask and then I'll come back for that

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 1>next apploytment.

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the mask will also be expensive. So Janosh does

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:14.839
<v Speaker 3>have to do more crimes. So he goes from reluctant

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 3>safe cracker to just NonStop crime boss. He not only

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 3>it becomes a safe cracker, he takes over the gang

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.839
<v Speaker 3>like he all the you know, the tough guys who

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 3>were showing up at Dinky's plays, Now they're all working

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 3>for Janosh. And he pulls off highest affter heist. We

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 3>get the newspaper headlines, scenes of the police getting chewed

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 3>out by their superiors because they can't catch this criminal mastermind.

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 3>In fact, it seems like the main detective on the

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 3>case is Yanosh's old friend, Lieutenant O'Hara.

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Of course it is. Yeah.

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Also somewhere along this process, Yanosh ends up not only

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:52.360
<v Speaker 3>with a lot of money, but ends up with an airplane,

0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 3>or at least flying an airplane like he They mentioned

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 3>multiple times that he goes out flying an airplane.

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, so he's he has become the boss. He's

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:04.520
<v Speaker 1>running this entire operation, and we'll get some more of

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.400
<v Speaker 1>crime boss yanovsch But this is another part of the

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 1>picture where it's like I really wanted more. I needed

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 1>like another solid twenty minutes of Yanov's just being the boss,

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, enforcing his will, being a little scary with people,

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and so forth. We get all that, but you know,

0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:22.640
<v Speaker 1>it just leaves you wanting.

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 3>More now next to I'm sure we're all dying to

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.759
<v Speaker 3>see the mask. Well, we do get to see it,

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 3>and of course when we finally see it, it is a

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 3>bit creepy, because I guess a realistic mask sort of

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 3>always is. But I'll also say it's not bad for

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 3>a nineteen forties mask, Like I can tell that it

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:39.919
<v Speaker 3>is supposed to be Peter LORII.

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:45.439
<v Speaker 1>It looks better than some decapitated head effects I've seen,

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:45.759
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, And then when he puts it on. You were

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:51.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about this earlier, rob So when he puts the

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 3>mask on, we go back to the cameras showing Peter

0:56:56.440 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Lourie's face again, but now his skin looks tight and

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.400
<v Speaker 3>sort of pinched up and unnatural. I don't know exactly

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 3>how they accomplished this effect. I guess it's some kind

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 3>of makeup effect, because ironically, the mask we're now seeing

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.759
<v Speaker 3>I believe is just Peter Lourie's real face, but with

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:14.720
<v Speaker 3>some makeup and manipulations.

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Like I say, it kind of like smooths

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 1>him out a bit more and gives him this slightly

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 1>uncanny appearance.

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 3>It's like Peter LORII with an intense facelift.

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 3>After this, there's this one sequence where they pull off

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 3>some kind of opera robbery. I'm not sure I didn't

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 3>fully get the details here, but it involves an opera

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 3>and then like going to the opera and like looking

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 3>at each other during a certain time in the show,

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 3>and then we just see like I think an orchestra

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 3>conductor tied up and they've got a bunch of money.

0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I guess so they didn't have access

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to montage technology.

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, But anyway, while the gang is counting up

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 3>all their money from the opera heist, they are interrupted

0:57:56.600 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 3>by a real nasty customer. Remember old Jeff we heard

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 3>about earlier, Jeff Jeffrey Jeffreyes. Well, anyway, he's out of

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 3>prison now, and he wanders into the to the gang's

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 3>counting room with a gun and insists he's in charge now.

0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Jeff says, we're going to live just as swell. Only

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 3>one thing will change. We don't need him appointing at

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:20.680
<v Speaker 3>yanosh Ooh. But then twist. I didn't see this coming.

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Peter Lourie like muscles this much bigger guy. He slaps

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 3>him around. He's like, I'm in charge now.

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is great. It's very much like little dog

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 1>putting a bigger dog in its place. Sort of energy here,

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, Laurie brings it like he makes you

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 1>believe it, like seconds before it to Kurt. You feel

0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>like something like that is going to have to happen

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in order to put Jeff in his place. But you're like,

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if LORI can do it. No, he

0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 1>totally did it. He pulled it off. I believe it.

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so I think the line he says is

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 3>these were your boys, their mine. Now we can all

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 3>be friends. If you want to play friendly, it's up

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:01.720
<v Speaker 3>to you. So Jeff cools his attitude and he gets

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 3>absorbed into the gang. But you can see in this

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:07.280
<v Speaker 3>scene that's he's swallowing his pride for the moment, but

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 3>it might not be going away. He's still hanging on

0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 3>to a grudge.

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So this this is a great scene. So this

0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Yanosh in his villain era here, it's tremendous.

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:20.120
<v Speaker 3>So some more plot developments. Yanosh goes back to a

0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:23.840
<v Speaker 3>follow up appointment with his plastic surgeons, and during this

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 3>appointment they explain, you know, after really looking at things,

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 3>we cannot in good conscience recommend an operation to you

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 3>because your burns are too extensive, too severe to be repaired.

0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:37.000
<v Speaker 3>They say, you know, if it's possible at all, it

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:40.280
<v Speaker 3>would take like thirty operations over fifteen years to even

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 3>really give you a chance of looking like your old self.

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we get that great bit of that great line

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 1>from janoshras just repeats that. He just says fifteen years.

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, is it really sinks in that this path

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that he's chosen for himself, that he's picked up is

0:59:55.400 --> 1:00:00.120
<v Speaker 1>a temporary change to get back on track is a

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:04.160
<v Speaker 1>long term track apparently, and potentially the rest of his life.

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to him, it means fifteen years of crime.

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Janos's furious, but on his way out of the

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<v Speaker 3>building he has a chance encounter that will change his life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet again, we keep having these reversals of fortune here.

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<v Speaker 3>So he bumps into a woman on the sidewalk and

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<v Speaker 3>makes her drop all her things. And this is the

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<v Speaker 3>romantic meat cute in the middle of the film noir

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<v Speaker 3>about a good man's desperate and hellish descent into crime.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a strange change of tone, but this character is

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<v Speaker 3>the one we mentioned earlier. Helen, played by Evelyn Keys.

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<v Speaker 3>Helen is blind and works as a jewelry maker, stringing necklaces.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she does. She string them for a department store.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe so. Yeah, yeah, and she was.

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<v Speaker 3>Transporting project boxes when they ran into each other on

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<v Speaker 3>the sidewalk. Helen is friendly, and she's funny and optimistic,

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<v Speaker 3>and her positivity just cut through the gloom of the

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<v Speaker 3>story like a laser. Janosh is instinctively rude to her

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<v Speaker 3>at first because he's feeling so bad, but he quickly

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<v Speaker 3>softens and he helps her pick up her things. And

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<v Speaker 3>in this scene, I don't know if you notice the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing, Rob, but you can hear in Peter Lourie's

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<v Speaker 3>vocal performance, his voice changes as as he became the

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<v Speaker 3>crime boss. His voice changed to become very tight and

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<v Speaker 3>gruff that he uses this tight gruff voice with his

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<v Speaker 3>gangster accomplices, but when he talks to Helen, he quickly

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<v Speaker 3>starts to sound more like he did at the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of the movie when he first arrived in America, with

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<v Speaker 3>a softer, higher pitched voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah. It reawakens the old Yanos.

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<v Speaker 3>Heare, so Yanosh offers to walk with her and carry

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<v Speaker 3>her things, and she accepts, and so they go back

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<v Speaker 3>to her apartment and they get to know one another.

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<v Speaker 3>Helen talks about how she enjoys living independently. She likes

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<v Speaker 3>keeping up her apartment and listening to music on the

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<v Speaker 3>radio from the neighbor's next door. And she's so charming

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<v Speaker 3>it is easy to see why Janosh's crime boss heart

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<v Speaker 3>is melting. Will probably come as no shock that this

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<v Speaker 3>is the beginning of a romance story. He asks if

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<v Speaker 3>he can come back and visit her sometime, and she

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<v Speaker 3>says she'd like that. So the two of them get

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<v Speaker 3>to know each other, they become friends. The love story blossoms.

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<v Speaker 3>They spend lots of time together and one day they

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<v Speaker 3>go out walking in the country among the oak trees. Here,

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<v Speaker 3>Helen gives this monologue sort of sharing her perspective on life.

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<v Speaker 3>Why she's so optimistic and has such a sense of

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<v Speaker 3>good humor about everything, And she explains from her point

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<v Speaker 3>of view, being blind, she's able to find beauty in

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<v Speaker 3>things more easily, so she says, like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>I feel the fur, even of a scrawny alley cat,

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<v Speaker 3>I can imagine it's the most regal beast. Or just

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<v Speaker 3>by putting one fresh flower in a jar in my apartment,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm living in a spring meadow. Kind

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<v Speaker 3>of interfaces with stuff. She said earlier about how much

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<v Speaker 3>pleasure she gets in listening to the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Yano.

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<v Speaker 3>She gave her her own radio as a gift sometime earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>and she loves the music, of course, but she even

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<v Speaker 3>finds pleasure in the advertisements, even if she's not interested

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<v Speaker 3>in the product they're selling. She just likes listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the enthusiastic appeals of friendly strangers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she likes her work. It's mentioned in one

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<v Speaker 1>of these bits from her where she talks about like

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<v Speaker 1>she enjoys listening to the radio and beating you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yano, she's so taken with her way of seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the good and everything, And he says he wishes he

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<v Speaker 3>could see the world the way she does, he would

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<v Speaker 3>imagine himself as a noble king. But she's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>you are a king. You are unselfish and thoughtful, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's the most noble thing of all. And during the scene,

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<v Speaker 3>Yanosh breaks down, he starts to cry, and he says

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<v Speaker 3>that if she were able to see his burned face,

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<v Speaker 3>the face behind the mask, the title of the film,

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<v Speaker 3>she would run away and terror like everybody else else.

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<v Speaker 3>But she rejects this. She wants to know what he's

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<v Speaker 3>been hiding, what's troubling him, and invites him to tell

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<v Speaker 3>his story.

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<v Speaker 1>So he does.

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<v Speaker 3>He relents, and he tells her his whole history, everything

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<v Speaker 3>that happened, though he tells her off screen, as many

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<v Speaker 3>pivotal scenes they do take place off screen. Though I

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<v Speaker 3>guess this is a common this is a fair thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to see a character recap the entire

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<v Speaker 3>film so far, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But there would have been some really emotional moments in

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<v Speaker 1>that that we miss out on. But we know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. She is going to accept him for

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<v Speaker 1>who he is, and she sees the true face behind

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<v Speaker 1>the mask, She sees his heart.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, and I guess that's the play on the title.

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<v Speaker 3>There are two different kinds of face behind the mask.

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<v Speaker 3>When Yanosh thinks of the face behind the mask, he

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<v Speaker 3>thinks of his scars, his physical face, And when she

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<v Speaker 3>thinks of it, she thinks of the real hymn, his

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<v Speaker 3>good heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Yanosh's conscience is now awakened again by his love

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<v Speaker 3>for Helen, and he goes back to his gang and

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<v Speaker 3>is like, boys, I'm out. I'm going to clean my

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<v Speaker 3>whole act up, and he is. He is out of

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<v Speaker 3>the life of crime for good.

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<v Speaker 1>This always works. You can always walk away from a

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<v Speaker 1>life of crime. We know that from so many pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny because he tries to tell Jeff like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to get what you always wanted. Now, boys

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<v Speaker 3>are yours again. You're in charge now. But you get

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<v Speaker 3>the sense that Jeff maybe has enjoyed coasting on Yanosh's

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<v Speaker 3>crime skills and just sniping from the sidelines. Now that

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<v Speaker 3>he's in charge, he's mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, now Jeff will have to deliver as

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<v Speaker 1>the boss of this crew that has become accustomed to

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<v Speaker 1>a higher level of success. So, yeah, good luck, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see how this works. Out for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's what he wanted, but now that he has it,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not happy. He's just doing, but he can't stop

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<v Speaker 3>Yanosh from leaving. Yanosh has a house out in the

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<v Speaker 3>country and plans to move there with Helen. Yanosh gives

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<v Speaker 3>his new address to Dinky in secret and says, if

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<v Speaker 3>you ever you know, you ever need me, you ever

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<v Speaker 3>want to get out of the life, look me up here.

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<v Speaker 3>So Yanosh and Helen make their plans. They pack things up,

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<v Speaker 3>They make plans to move out to a house with

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<v Speaker 3>green shutters. They talk about this detail and Yanosh oh

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<v Speaker 3>he buys a secondhand car, one with a radio because

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<v Speaker 3>he knows Helen likes to listen to the radio so much. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>at crime headquarters, Jeff is stewing again. He got what

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted, but he's still angry. He starts digging around

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<v Speaker 3>through Yanosh's old things and he finds something curious. He

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<v Speaker 3>finds the business card of a police detective. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the card that O'Hara left for Yanosh in the hospital

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<v Speaker 3>way back when. But not understanding what it is, Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>jumps to a conclusion, and that conclusion is Janosh wanted

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<v Speaker 3>out of the business because he is ratting the gang

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<v Speaker 3>out to the cops, and Jeff says, I figured it out.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to get revenge against Janosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Again, the cryptic nature of that original scrawl message,

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<v Speaker 1>now out of context, is interpreted to me, oh, Yanosh

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<v Speaker 1>is in a league with the police.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. And here's where the potential happy ending turns

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<v Speaker 3>to tragedy, as it must in a movie like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff and the gang find Dinky and they torture him

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<v Speaker 3>for information about where to find Yanosh. Finally they threaten

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<v Speaker 3>to burn his feet in the fireplace, and he tells

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<v Speaker 3>where yan Osh and Helen are hiding. So the next

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<v Speaker 3>day yan oshan Helen and an adorable scruffy dog by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, really old dog, big cute dog. They move

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<v Speaker 3>out to their house in the country you never you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and they like settle in and everything's so happy. You

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<v Speaker 3>never want to be a movie character saying it's all

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<v Speaker 3>so perfect unless you're in the last like two minutes

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<v Speaker 3>of the film and I say, we have another fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>twenty to go here.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, not good. But yeah, they seem like the

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<v Speaker 1>this seems to be the dream, right, the dog, the house.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a scene though, where Janosh tells Helen that she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to do her bead work anymore because she'll

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<v Speaker 1>have this house to run, and part of me was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, yeah, no, she know. She had this

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<v Speaker 1>whole bit where she talked about how much joy she

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<v Speaker 1>derived from her work. But I likes it. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty one film. It's supposed to be well intended

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<v Speaker 1>by it. But yeah, I think she can still do

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<v Speaker 1>her beadwork.

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<v Speaker 3>So everything is beautiful until knock on the door and

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<v Speaker 3>it's Jeff. Jeff arrives and he makes menacing comments to Yanosh.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a confrontation, but it does not escalate to violence.

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<v Speaker 1>He leaves.

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<v Speaker 3>He says like, I won't even waste a bullet on you.

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<v Speaker 3>But when he gets back to the car, when Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>gets back to the car with his boys, they revealed

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<v Speaker 3>that they had planted a bomb in Yanosh's car. It's

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<v Speaker 3>wired to the radio. And then the gangsters are driving

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<v Speaker 3>away and they conclude that they're done with Dinky, so

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<v Speaker 3>they throw him out of the moving car onto the highway.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unclear if they thought they had killed him or

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<v Speaker 3>if they meant to leave him alive. I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 3>there did.

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<v Speaker 1>They shoot him first in the back.

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<v Speaker 3>Think, so do you hear like a you don't see

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<v Speaker 3>a gun, but you hear a gun sound effect? And

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<v Speaker 3>then they throw him out of the side of the car.

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<v Speaker 3>But Dinky manages, despite his injuries, to get to a

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<v Speaker 3>nearby service station and place a phone call. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the logistics of this climax scene get really complicated. Dinky

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<v Speaker 3>calls a neighbor of Janosh's. I guess Janosh and Helen

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a phone yet. He calls the neighbor. The

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<v Speaker 3>neighbor cranks his car up, drives to Yanosh's house, picks

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<v Speaker 3>up Yanosh drives him back to his house to take

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<v Speaker 3>Dinky's call, only for the call to be like, don't

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<v Speaker 3>start your car, Yano, she don't use your radio, And

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately it's a it's a Godfather scenario, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>Apollonia in Sicily. Janosh rushes back home to stop Helen

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<v Speaker 3>from using the car. But Helen, she's been loading things

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<v Speaker 3>into the car. She wants to listen to the radio.

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<v Speaker 3>She turns it on and there's a terrible explosion and

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<v Speaker 3>she dies. So it's incredibly.

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<v Speaker 1>Sad, and the dog dies too. Like that makes it

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<v Speaker 1>even more heartbreaking, obviously, because she's in the car with

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<v Speaker 1>the dog and she's like, all right, scruffy, let's turn

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio. I love listening to the radio. And yeah, explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>So now Janosh's only hope of love and happiness is gone,

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<v Speaker 3>and he decides there is only one thing left for

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<v Speaker 3>him and it is revenge. This leads to the final

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<v Speaker 3>sequence of the movie, which is the airplane revenge plot.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jeff and the gang have plans to fly an

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<v Speaker 3>airplane somewhere for some are they doing Are they trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get to a job or are they trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do it get away?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was more of a getaway, like we

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<v Speaker 1>got to flee to Mexico. Boys, that's the desert. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they probably have some jobs lined up there.

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<v Speaker 1>They got to keep working, gotta stay busy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't remember. But they're in a plane for

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<v Speaker 3>some reason. And Yanosh, remember he's a pilot, he can

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<v Speaker 3>fly a plane. He impersonates the pilot and he takes

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<v Speaker 3>the role flying the plane that all the gang is

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<v Speaker 3>in except Dinky's left behind. But all the bad guys

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<v Speaker 3>in the gang, they're in the plane and he flies

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<v Speaker 3>them out to the middle of nowhere in the desert,

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<v Speaker 3>landing the plane when it has no fuel left, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he explains to them their predicament. He's like, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no fuel, there's nowhere to go. I just want you

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<v Speaker 3>to know I have my revenge.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe they actually filmed the sequence out in

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona desert, so this is like real desert. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we get some stock footage some desert from when

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<v Speaker 1>they're flying around, but then yeah, we're out here on

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<v Speaker 1>the sands.

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<v Speaker 3>So the gang is furious, but they have nothing to do,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they can't get out of the situation. So

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<v Speaker 3>they tie Yanosh to the plane. They start exploring in

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<v Speaker 3>different directions, but they just get you know, beaten down

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<v Speaker 3>by the sun. They find no not a hint of

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<v Speaker 3>civilization anywhere nearby. They start fighting over water rations, turning

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<v Speaker 3>on each other, shooting at each other, and it's a

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<v Speaker 3>real desperate scene. Now, finally, there's a thing we established earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that Yano sent a note to O'Hara, to

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<v Speaker 3>the police, to his old friend saying, hey, if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to find the gang who's been doing these robberies,

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<v Speaker 3>come to this place in the middle of the desert.

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<v Speaker 3>Here are the coordinates at this time on this day.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the police take him up on that. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess they're like, surely, yeah, let's believe this anonymous tip.

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<v Speaker 3>So they arrived by plane several days later, finding all

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<v Speaker 3>of the gang and Yanosh dead. And when they find

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<v Speaker 3>to Jeff in the desert, collapsed in the sand, they

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<v Speaker 3>observed that he was trying to escape, but they say

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<v Speaker 3>he just kept walking in one big circle. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>thematically loaded.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, and leading up to this moment we get

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<v Speaker 1>some great desert sand and hour glass imagery which I

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<v Speaker 1>also really like tickets a little artsy here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So when O'Hara finds Janosh's body, there's a note

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<v Speaker 3>waiting for him explaining explaining who he is and saying like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>remember me when we first met, you were kind to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted to thank you that for that, and also to

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<v Speaker 3>repay you the five dollars that I owe you. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, however long ago that was. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if they make explicit how long how much time has

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<v Speaker 3>passed in between, but O'Hara is reminded and he he says,

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<v Speaker 3>it says you were kind to me. These men here

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<v Speaker 3>they were not, and he says, I have forgotten either,

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<v Speaker 3>And so the music swells on a scene of the

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<v Speaker 3>men standing in the shadow of the airplane in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the desert, and it's a it's a very

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<v Speaker 3>bleak ending. Though there is one happy element to it,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that I don't remember if if we get

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<v Speaker 3>an indication whether Dinky survives in the end or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But he does. Janosh does have a big pot of

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<v Speaker 3>money and he oh no, wait, no, there's reward money

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<v Speaker 3>for the capture of the gang.

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<v Speaker 1>He arranged it to go to Dinky's mother.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yes, so he has the reward money sent

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<v Speaker 3>to Dinky's mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there is this sense, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take it. I'm going to assume it works out that

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<v Speaker 1>Dinky's mom is going to get to fix up the

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<v Speaker 1>chicken farm. He gets to go out there and settle down,

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<v Speaker 1>support his mother, live there, and in his own way,

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<v Speaker 1>live happily. Ever after, you got to take your victories

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<v Speaker 1>where you can find him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, that's it. That's there is a glimmer of

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<v Speaker 3>happiness in this mostly bleak ending.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, yeah, that's the face behind the mask. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh, you know, Columbia Pictures B movie, but it

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<v Speaker 1>has as has a great look, has some very nice performances,

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<v Speaker 1>and it great Peter Lori performance at the center of

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<v Speaker 1>everything obviously, uh, and you know it it it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very much uh, you know, it's very much on the rails.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I say, it's a short run time, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does give you some stuff to chew on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, in its own way examine some fairly complex

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<v Speaker 1>issues and uh, you know, morality and uh and and

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<v Speaker 1>ambition and and even the American dreams. So it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a much better film than I was anticipating. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I was expecting something that was just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mostly be centered in the Lori performance, you know, where

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<v Speaker 1>I might just be appreciating it for its own sake.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this is sometimes the case with great character actors,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like sometimes it's just a gem in the

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<v Speaker 1>rough and you appreciate that gem for what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think as a whole, the picture's quite good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I actually revise my judgment about something we said earlier?

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<v Speaker 3>We said we said that the movie is not subtle,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that that's true about a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>things about it, but there are elements that are subtle.

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<v Speaker 3>I think actually what I would say is that some

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<v Speaker 3>things about it are incredibly unsubtle, Like it has very

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<v Speaker 3>overt themes and very overt use of the tools of cinema,

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<v Speaker 3>music and you know, and you know heavy like visual

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<v Speaker 3>foreshadowing and things like that. Some of that stuff is

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<v Speaker 3>not subtle. But there is also some subtle stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you get by implication, the death of Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>at the end, you know, walking around in circles. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't state that connection to the theme too overtly. And

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<v Speaker 3>also some things about Peter Laurie's performance, like in some

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<v Speaker 3>scenes he is just very overtly like stating his emotions

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<v Speaker 3>and motivations and performing them very forcefully. But in other scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>I think there is some subtlety. There's some subtlety about

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<v Speaker 3>like exactly what is so beautiful to him about Helen's attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's not all stated explicitly, like he mentions

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<v Speaker 3>her optimism, but the stuff about like the way that

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<v Speaker 3>she finds the best in everything that seems to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like remind him of his earlier self. But like

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<v Speaker 3>he never says that explicitly, So I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's some good subtle stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually this is interesting because we might in a way

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<v Speaker 1>be getting back into the idea of what is noir.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and you know, you think about these black

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<v Speaker 1>and white pictures with you know, deep midnight blacks and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, contrasted by the white, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>think about like, you know, good and evil, but then

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<v Speaker 1>all of these like areas of ambiguity in between, even

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<v Speaker 1>though you know, obviously noir pictures often also play with

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<v Speaker 1>severe absolutes as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some stuff is very heavy handed and some stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is more subtle. In fact, I wonder to over extend

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<v Speaker 3>the metaphor perhaps I wonder if you could almost think

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<v Speaker 3>of this as kind of like a stage magician, that

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<v Speaker 3>a stage magician is going to be through misdirection, being

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<v Speaker 3>very flamboyant with what they do with one hand in

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<v Speaker 3>order to you know, sort of keep your attention off

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<v Speaker 3>of what they're doing with the other hand. Could that

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<v Speaker 3>could that be the case with some noir storytelling like

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<v Speaker 3>we see here, that it makes the subtle elements all

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<v Speaker 3>the more the more emotionally resonant, that they're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>hidden by this heavy handed, overt storytelling style in some

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<v Speaker 3>of the other choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's a pretty solid way to look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. And obviously we'd love to hear what listeners

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<v Speaker 1>have to say about all of this, you know, think

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<v Speaker 1>about it in terms of your favorite noir pictures, be

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<v Speaker 1>it you know, old timey noir or neo you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the various noir elements that you'll find in various works

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<v Speaker 1>of science fiction, anime, and so forth. Right in, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to have that discussion with you and think about

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<v Speaker 1>it as we proceed through the month of November. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there another or neo noir picture you would like for

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<v Speaker 1>us to consider on Weird House Cinema, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the future, right in, and let us know. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>I was my backup for this one was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Coen Brother's picture, and at some point I

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<v Speaker 1>think I would like to come back and do a

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen Brothers picture. Some of my favorite filmmakers and a

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<v Speaker 1>number of those films are very close to my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think I know exactly what movie you have

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<v Speaker 3>in mind. Yeah, we could come back to the Coen

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<v Speaker 3>Brothers in a number of ways.

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