1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Rob Thompson and welcome to The Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: Binamar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd so lucky. It's the Philly Show. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: It's Thursday, October second, twenty twenty five. Hope everybody is 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: doing well as red October gets started for the Phillies 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: on Saturday with Game one of the National League Division 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Series at Citizens Bank. 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Park, Jim. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Earlier this week we had phillyas hitting coach Kevin Long 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: on the show. If you haven't listened to that, definitely 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: checked out a lot of great stuff. Wednesday we had 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapira on the show. That was a 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: lot of fun. And today we have another great guest, 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: Phillis third base coach Dusty Wathin, and I think everybody 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: is going to learn a lot about it. Let's talk 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: about what we liked about Dusty with the parks first Pitch, 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 2: First Pitch, which is brought to us exclusively by our 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: partners at Park Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Dusty third 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: base coach, very good third base coach, dare I say, 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: and I liked learning a lot about the preparation that 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: kind of goes into some of these things, you know, 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: I asked him, you know, do you guys do you 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: have to go in before every series and kind of like, 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: you know, besides studying who's on bas what the situation is, 24 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: but how about just how an outfield plays, actually how 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: a ballpark plays. And he had a I did not 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: know this. I mean, you know, he talked about how 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: they prepare for every ballpark they go in and how 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: the ball might play off the wall with some very 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: interesting details. So a lot of really cool stuff that does. 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: He talked about third. 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Base coach prep, run prevention, you know, working with the catchers, JT. 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: Real mute, all sorts of great stuff. 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Great stuff, I mean him talking about they have video 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: clips of the way you know, the ball scoots around 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: certain outfield walls in the league. That was amazing. And 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: as he's talking about you know, you know, you think 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: about third base coach, right, and you think it's all 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: just using your eyes and you feel and your instinct 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: and your knowledge of the game. And you're picking up 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: that runner and you're measuring the outfield and the cutoff 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: man and if the guy's got a big arm or whatnot, 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: and you're making a decision to wind him or not. 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 3: There's so much that cloes into it. They've already had, 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: you know, data breakdowns on the outfields and the ballparks, 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: and that runner in the game situation. You can almost 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: like picture like him needing a computer chip in his 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: brain to process all that and make a split second, 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: split second decision to send a guy that might win 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 3: or lose you a ball game. 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: So I thought it was. 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: He very appropriately said, it's as close as you can 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: get to actually being a player in the game. And 53 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, he is a very good third base coach. 54 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: You know why he's been one for a long time. 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 3: You don't last that long if you're not really good 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: at your job. And then that's only part of his job. 57 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: He instructs the catcher as he works on the running game. 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 3: He's a great, great baseball man, one of those guys 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: you come away feeling like you learn something. And I 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: you know, if anybody who doesn't feel like they learned 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: something after listening to this interview ain't paying attention, And 62 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: then you know he's got a great personality on top 63 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: of it, tells a great George Brett's story. I'll make 64 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: you laugh a little bit, so and a couple of 65 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: great JT stories because I asked him about JT's You 66 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: know what jumps up to me about JT's his toughness. 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: The guy is like like a bulldozer. He's always getting 68 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: dinged and run over and he always comes back for more. 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: So he's to me an amazing athlete and tough tough man. 70 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: So Dusty's very close to him, so great to hear 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: some stuff there. I don't want to give it all away. 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: You got to click the button and you got to 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: watch the whole thing because it's really good. 74 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: It is really good. 75 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: I think everybody is really going to enjoy Philly's third 76 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: base coach, Dusty Wathon. 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: That was first pitch presented exclusively by our partners at 78 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one Casinoparkscasino dot Com is the website. 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: You must be twenty one to participate, and if you 80 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: have a gambling apartum, call one eight hundred gambler. 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: And Dusty thank you so much for joining the Philly Show. 82 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: How's it going? Ay, one Red October. 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: It's right. 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you've been in the organization forever, you've been around, 85 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: You've seen the good times, you've seen the not so 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: good times. You've been on the big league staff since 87 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: what twenty seventeen, so you've seen it all over the years. 88 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: What do you think about this team right now in 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: terms of mindset, headspace, you know, going back to the 90 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: postseason for the fourth consecutive year unfinished business. 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: I think we're in a really good spot right now. 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: I think health wise, Sack, everybody's pretty healthy. I think 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: everybody's been through this before. I like the consistency of 94 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: the of the team this year, you know, setting the 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: record for most series one in a season. 96 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: By the Phillies, so I think that says a lot. 97 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: I think a lot of times last year, you know, 98 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: we came out of the gate pretty good, kind of 99 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: played five hundred ball really the second half of the season, 100 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: so there was some question marks on well, you know, 101 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: did they peak too soon? 102 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: I think this team really hasn't hit their peak yet. 103 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 4: I think, you know, most of the guys in the 104 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: clubhouse and on the staff have been through this before, 105 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: so we know what to expect. Last year we had 106 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 4: to buy fortunate to have it again, and I think 107 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: we're just in a good. 108 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Spot right now. And you know, our mentality. 109 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: Has been what Rob preaches is win series, and that's 110 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: what's going to get it done here in October. 111 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: Dusty, we're not really sure yet who the Phillies are 112 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: going to play starting on Saturday. But when you get 113 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: an opponent firmed up, what will be your role in 114 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: game planning? What will you dig in on and try 115 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: to impart you know that info to the players. 116 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 4: Well, most of my job is well, first preparing to 117 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 4: coach third base, checking who's gonna play outfield for whatever 118 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: team we're gonna play. 119 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: And then the second biggest. 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 4: Job would be preparing for their runners, the run game prevention, 121 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: so digging in on their guys, what counts they like 122 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 4: to run in as an organization, as a player, you know, 123 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: do they do this? You know how the Yankees kind 124 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: of started the little leap off the base? You know, 125 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: can we find something where we can exploit that. Do 126 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 4: guys like to steal second base on the first pitch? 127 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: All those types of things to help prevent their run 128 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: game and help ours? And then really go through on 129 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: the base running side for us, checking on how they 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: defend certain things. You know, if we get into a 131 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: first and third situation, are they called that returns the ball. 132 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: Do they throw it through, do they not throw through? 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 4: Do they like to throw it at a second base 134 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: with a runner on first base? On balls down the line, 135 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: they throw to the cutoff man towards home. 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: Things like that to prepare yourself to maybe make a 137 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: decision in game. 138 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 5: So, Dusty, one of the fun things that I had 139 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 5: as a first base coach, I actually had an opportunity 140 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 5: to coach third base one spring and it was a 141 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 5: totally different experience. Obviously, you are impacting the game in 142 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 5: a very different way. Can you talk about how much 143 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 5: how exciting it is to be on that third baseline 144 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 5: and how much how many different things you actually have 145 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: to think about as you get into certain situations and 146 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 5: during gameplay. 147 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell people it's the closest thing to playing 148 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: that you can get when you're done playing. So you're 149 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: actually impacting the game in a play As most other coaches, 150 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: you've gained plan. 151 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: You've done all your work, you're you know, giving the 152 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: guys the knowledge and they got to kind of go 153 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: do it. 154 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: But a coaching third base, there's gonna be a situation 155 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: where in a series or in a season that you're 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: gonna impact it by sending a guy not sending a 157 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 4: guy making a decision. But I'm really grateful for managing 158 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: in the minor leagues from third base because it really 159 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: makes you think about a lot of things people. 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: Probably don't think about. 161 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: It's you know, who's coming up next, how's he swinging 162 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 4: the bat? How's our bullpen look today? Are we going 163 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: to play for a tie? Are we playing for a win? 164 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 4: There's just so many things. Are we gonna pinch hit? 165 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: Possibly? Are we not going to pinch? 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: It is so and so banged up, so he can't 167 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: pinch hit, So maybe we're a little bit more aggressive. 168 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Is Kyle Schwarber coming up with two outs? 169 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 4: Maybe we're gonna be a little bit a little bit 170 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 4: more not as aggressive with with somebody like that coming 171 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: up with the season that he's had. So there's so 172 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 4: many things that go into it. And then on top 173 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: of that, the physical things of the other club. You know, 174 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: how well do the guys throw, how well do they 175 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: go left right? Come in field ground balls? Do they 176 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: throw better when they catch a fly ball than a 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: ground ball? So there's so many things that go into 178 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: your decision prior to the ball getting put in play. 179 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: So I feel that for the most part. 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: Managing in the minor leagues really helps that because you're 181 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 4: thinking of so many things and coaching third base on 182 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: top of it, and then also obviously being here, being 183 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: with Topper the last four years, being with Paco and 184 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: I uh first and third for seven years. Like Paco says, 185 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: like he said, there's times where he looks at me 186 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: and he just knows what I'm gonna what we're gonna do. 187 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: So it makes it a little. 188 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 5: So it feels like almost like you talked about being 189 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 5: as close to a player as possible, I think it's 190 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: the it's almost melding as close to being a player 191 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: as it and as close to being a manager as 192 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: you could possibly get at the same time, which I 193 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 5: think really brings out the juice in the in the position. 194 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I think, Yeah, you're making a lot of 195 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: decisions in your head, you know, talking to top before 196 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: I go out there. Hey, what are we thinking here? 197 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 4: You know how we looking in the bullpen? Just double 198 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 4: check this, you know this happens. Are we going to 199 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: possibly bunt? We're not gonna a bunt? 200 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: You know? Is there a chance that we could hit 201 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: and run? 202 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: Because this guy's a sinkerballer and and we got an Alec. 203 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Bomb up that it's going to put the ball in play. 204 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: So we talk about a lot of those things prior 205 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: to inning starting, prior to prior to games starting, prior 206 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: to series starting. 207 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, a lot goes into it, and 208 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: I really enjoy it. It's it's a lot of fun. 209 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: But this might be a dumb question, Dusty, but how 210 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: much do you also know how an outfield ballpark plays? 211 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: Like if I said to you, tell me about Dodger 212 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: Stadium and how the ball plays off the wall or 213 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: Great American Ballpark? Are those do you study those types 214 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: of things as well? 215 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, so one. Having done it for a 216 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: number of years, you kind of get a good idea. 217 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: You've been out there for batting practice multiple times over 218 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: the years, so you've seen it with your own eyes. 219 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: But also, our video department does a great job and 220 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 4: send Paco and. 221 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: I a nice video of balls. 222 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: Starting in left field and going all the way around 223 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: and watching how they stick in the corner, how they 224 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: roll around the corner, how they hit a chain link 225 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: area or the fence, crazy bounces that they've seen happen 226 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: in video, So you know, It's probably a two to 227 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: five minute video going from left to right, just watching 228 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: balls bounce and how they bounce. And then we also 229 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: get one more Poco than I, but I watch it too. 230 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: It's an infield video that shows all the video and 231 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: the ground rules from dugout to dugout, Like if a 232 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 4: throw comes from third base at what angle, how's it 233 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 4: gonna bounce off? Is Paco gonna yell at him and 234 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: say go ahead? Or is it gonna stick to the paddy? 235 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: Is it gonna bounce towards the right field corner? Is 236 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: it gonna bounce back to the first baseman? 237 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Is their net there? So I get that from my 238 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: side too. 239 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: Doesn't happen as often, but still going to be prepared 240 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: on stuff like that. 241 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 2: And then you get feedback to like postgame right on. 242 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: Don't you get like on every send or is that my. 243 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: Right or yeah? Yeah. 244 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: So when I first my first year in eighteen, hired 245 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: in seventeen, but I went into the year and I said, 246 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: you know, my dream would be to not have the 247 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: people in the stands being the second guest machines. I'd 248 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 4: like you guys to build something, and so they built 249 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 4: me a post mortem that takes into account the speed 250 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 4: of our runner, the velocity the guy throws the ball, 251 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: the distance he has to travel to throw to get 252 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: to the ball. So it kind of is the ultimate 253 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 4: second guessing machine, and it gives you the probability of 254 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: them scoring with a guy's average tools, the probability of 255 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 4: him scoring on that actual play where he threw it, 256 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: because we can measure everything, how fast the guy's running 257 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: and all, and then the break even probability of hey, 258 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: was that chance of him scoring better than the break 259 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: even in that situation? 260 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: So that takes into account, you know, outs innings. 261 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 4: The only thing that doesn't take into account it's hard 262 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: to do is is who's. 263 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: Coming up in the lineup and how they're going at 264 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: the time. 265 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: So there's still a little bit of you know, hey, 266 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 4: sometimes I'm going to be more aggressive than what the 267 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: second guessing. The post mortem says, sometimes I'm going to 268 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: be a little bit more passive on that situation. But 269 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 4: it definitely gives me some good feedback and you know, 270 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: a chance to study things the next day and you know, 271 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 4: did you make a mistake? 272 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you just got to get lucky too. 273 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: Is there a send in your mind that you got 274 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: the report after the game, like, holy crap, I can't. 275 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them, actually, but is there one 276 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: lot of them? Really? 277 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: I mean not a lot, but you know there are 278 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: some where you're like, you're sending them and you know 279 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 4: there's a guy on deck that's not swinging the bat 280 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 4: well and you're like, I hope he throws this one offline, 281 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: or I hope it short hops the catcher. 282 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: And that's another thing I look at. 283 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: I look at, you know, how the catcher's tag You know, 284 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: there's some guys that that are really good taggers. 285 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: Some guys don't handle bounces very well. So you're like, 286 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a shot, and you know he's 287 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty, I'm gonna catch this ball anyway. 288 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: So but the thing that the fans don't want to 289 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: hear is that, you know, I personally probably should get 290 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: more guys thrown out sometimes, you know, you look at 291 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: that too. So but it's hard with our lineup and 292 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: then the guys that we have, you know, I mean, 293 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 4: we're not dealing with the lineup of a bunch of 294 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: guys hitting two fifteen with thirty RBIs a year. So 295 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 4: you always feel confident the next guy can get that hit. 296 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: If if you think it's a fifty to fifty situation 297 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: where a guy's gonna score. 298 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always thought if a guy, you know, if 299 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: some guys don't get thrown out over across a one 300 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: sixty two, if you guys get thrown out, maybe the 301 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: third base coach is not being aggressive enough. But with 302 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: all this data, maybe that throws that out the window. 303 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: And well, I think so, I think you're right. 304 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: I think I think there's some times where you're like, hey, 305 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a shot at this thing. 306 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: So I think guys are gonna get thrown out. 307 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: And if you don't get some guys thrown out here 308 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: and there in the right situation, I mean, like, you know, 309 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: you get a guy thrown out, you're down by four 310 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: with nobody out, then probably. 311 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Shouldn't have got that guy thrown out. 312 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: But you get guys on out with two outs, and 313 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: and and situations like that. 314 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, Thai games down by one, stuff like that. 315 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: You know that you get into a situation those x 316 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: RA inning games where we put the runner on second 317 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 4: and and there'll be no outs, and you know, if 318 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: we're swinging the bat. You know, I'll tell Paco, hey, 319 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: I might just automatically send this guy no matter what. 320 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: And you send that kind of second base, how do 321 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: you tell him that? 322 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: How do you tell him that. 323 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: He's watching guys, everybody's watching. Hey, So I did, I 324 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: had this, so I will confess this. 325 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: When I was a GM, I used to tell all 326 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 5: our third base coach coaches. 327 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: Send them all boys sound. 328 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 6: And honestly, I just felt like the the ability for 329 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 6: for outfielders, even though you know they have arm strength 330 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 6: and that you know under game situation, they had a 331 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 6: really tough time making a good, solid throw from the outfield. 332 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: To home plate. It's just a hard throw to make 333 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: under duress. 334 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: And I just felt like that's something that's it was 335 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 5: important to go ahead and send that. 336 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Now, not nobody out or you know somebody. 337 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: I think that's different, but I would I would tend 338 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 5: to be more aggressive. 339 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: But I see that you have been in your career 340 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: as well. 341 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think that's right. I think you know, 342 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: it is hard for guys to throw guys out. I 343 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: don't think outfielders practice throwing to the bases as much 344 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: as they used to. They don't, so I think it 345 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: is more difficult. You see them throwing spring training. I 346 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: tell you what, Paco gets our guys thrown to the bases, 347 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: and you know, I don't see that very often. 348 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Course I'm not always out on the field when we're playing. 349 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: Other teams, but I very rarely see a team throw 350 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: into bases, especially home. You know, you'll see the guys 351 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: do their little drills whe they're throwing a ball into 352 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: second base from the outfield, but yeah, you don't. You 353 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: don't see it very often. It is a hard play. 354 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: And I do think that getting guys thrown out and 355 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: saying send them all. And there are some organizations believe 356 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: it or not, rubined that that do say that. The 357 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: analytical department says just send them no matter what. And 358 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: then a guy gets thrown out by forty feet and 359 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: you know that guy that's him to send them all 360 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: isn't standing in third base. 361 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Who's got the Who's got the arm? 362 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: In the National League? That you think is the most 363 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 3: dangerous outfield arm? 364 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: Uh tati secunya? 365 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: Uh? 366 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Those two? 367 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I have a place stuck in my mind. 368 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: We were losing five to nothing. It was the ninth inning. 369 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: JT's on third Bohmer was hitting and he hits a 370 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: ball to right field. We're down by five, so you know, 371 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: typically you're like, I'm not going to send him. But 372 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: the ball was almost to the warning track. Cunya caught 373 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: it flat footed and I told j T to go 374 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 4: and he scored, but only because it was JT. He 375 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 4: threw it flat foot at like one hundred and one 376 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 4: or something, right on the money, and JT was safe. 377 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: But I was like, you have got to be kidding 378 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: me that he just made that throw. 379 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: I mean, typically like no, no, no, no, but I mean, 380 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: this ball was at the warning track and he just 381 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 4: threw an absolute bullet to the plate right on the money. 382 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: And JT was safe, thank god. 383 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: But I was like, God, if that would have been 384 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: somebody else, you know, he probably gets thrown out there, 385 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: and you. 386 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: Know, I'm walking off the field getting killed. You're like, nope, 387 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: for next time. 388 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep that in my head for next time. 389 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 390 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: So you bring up JT. You work very close with 391 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: closely with him. He work very closely with the catchers. 392 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: You were a catcher, your dad was a catcher. JT's 393 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: amazes me for a lot of reasons. His athleticism, But honestly, 394 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: the thing that amazes me most is his toughness. He 395 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: takes a beating back there, he gets hit in the head, 396 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 3: he gets hitting the fruit bowl, he gets hit all 397 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: over the place, and he never stops coming back. 398 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: You got any tails about his. 399 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: Toughness or just just you know, your impressions of his 400 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: overall toughness behind there. 401 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's something special. You know, there's not 402 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 4: many guys built like him. I think his background growing 403 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 4: up as a wrestler, with his family, they probably I'm 404 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: sure they didn't let him complain about anything, you know, 405 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: with the history of his uncle's wrestling and Olympic medals 406 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 4: and things like that, and. 407 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: Then playing football and stuff like that. 408 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 4: And you know, there's something to be said about a 409 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: good Midwestern boy that it's tough back there, that won't 410 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 4: take any crap from anybody and stuff like that. 411 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: So he's impressive, I tell you. 412 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's tough to get him to come 413 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: out of the game for anything, but sometimes it's necessary. 414 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: The other day, with that foul ball, I was like, 415 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 4: this guy's going to be out for two weeks with 416 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: this thing, and he shows me the next day and 417 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 4: it's black and blue and everything. He said, it's not broke, 418 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 4: it'll be fine, and I said, can you throw? 419 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: And then that night he throws like a one seven 420 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: Ford at second base right on the money. I said, 421 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: I guess you're fine. Huh. I told you I'm fine. 422 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: It's just bruised. It was black and blue. It looked terrible. 423 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: But you know, he's out there, and to his credit, 424 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: he wants to play. 425 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: Not every guy wants to play as much as JT does. 426 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: So he's a great, great catcher obviously, but a great 427 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: person and a fun person to work with. 428 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: And we've had a pretty good run with. 429 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 4: Each other, and you know, hopefully there's more years to come. 430 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 7: Bark. 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And then every year 455 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: one thirty two, every year. 456 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: I looked the other day, I think he caught fifty 457 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: more innings than anybody else in baseball. 458 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not shocked by that at all, in any 459 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 5: stretch of the imagination to talk to us about his 460 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you've seen him for seven years, and I 461 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: know that he's always had a positive reputation of his 462 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: work and his preparedness, But talk about the relationships that 463 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 5: he has built and the confidence that the pitching staff 464 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 5: has in him, and how that's developed. I'm not sure 465 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 5: it was like that when he first got here, and 466 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 5: how that's all sort of come come to full circle. 467 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right there. 468 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 4: I don't think there was I think everybody knew the 469 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 4: physical ability. 470 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: That Jay he had when we got him. 471 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: I don't think everybody knew the preparation that he does 472 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: and how good he wanted to be at call in 473 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: a game and having his pitchers trust him, and I 474 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: think that's the last box to check to be an 475 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: elite catcher. I think, you know, the guys realized quickly 476 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 4: and watched him do all his homework and be prepared 477 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 4: for everything that you know, there's not many guys really 478 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: shaking him out there. There's some guys on the staff 479 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: that I don't think do any homework anymore and just 480 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: say JT's got it. I trust him. And there's something 481 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 4: to be said about that. I think you look back 482 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 4: in this organization and when the Phillies took the next 483 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 4: step the last time we had a good run, that's 484 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: when when Chuch really learned how to call a game 485 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: and everybody started trusting Chuc and we took off. 486 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: And I think you can kind of see the same 487 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: thing that happened here with JT. 488 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 4: You know, the pitching staff really trusted him and realized, 489 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 4: you know what, this guy knows what he's doing. He's prepared, 490 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: he's back there all the time, he's reading the swings, 491 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: he's back. 492 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: There for every inning. I'm not out there for every inning. 493 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: He might have seen something yesterday or the last time 494 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: we played these guys or in the first inning, and 495 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: I'm coming in in the eighth inning as a reliever. 496 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 4: So I think that's a big key. And then obviously 497 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: we had success as a pitching staff and as an 498 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: organization and as a team. So I think that gives 499 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: a lot of confidence to JT and the pitching staff. 500 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: So Dusty hot topic in baseball, hot topic sign stealing. 501 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: And you know it's even now a lot of focuses 502 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: on the base coaches picking up stuff, tipping it to 503 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: their guys, looking for stuff. 504 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: It's everywhere. 505 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 3: What can you tell us about that? Are you looking 506 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: for you know, on the bench, you know, trying to 507 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: prevent it, or how do you guys dig into that? 508 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you this has been going on 509 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: since they started playing baseball. The thing that's. 510 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: Happening now is there's more cameras on more people. I mean, 511 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 4: back in the day, there are three or four cameras 512 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: covering a game, so no one wanted to pay sure 513 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 4: of the third base coach while he's in between pitches. 514 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't care. Now there's cameras everywhere. 515 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 4: There's people with cell phones, so it's just out there 516 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: social media stuff like that, it gets blown up. And 517 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: also the ability to watch the game through video prior 518 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: game to see things the different camera angles. Everybody has 519 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 4: to see the tipping, you know of pitchers. It's so slight, 520 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 4: but if you can slow it down and zoom in 521 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: and things like that, you can pick things up a 522 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: little easier now than even five ten years ago. So 523 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 4: I think that's where you see it most and most 524 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 4: of it, I would say ninety nine percent of it 525 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 4: now is off of somebody on the field. 526 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't have anything to do. 527 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: I think Major Baseball has done a pretty good job 528 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 4: with the pitchclm and cleaning up all that stuff. Is 529 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 4: most of it is the catcher, the pitcher and infielder 530 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 4: moving something like that that advanced scouting has picked up 531 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: or somebody's picked up in the dugout. So I think, 532 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 4: like I said, it's just old fashioned gamesmanship, but it's 533 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: out there a little bit more now because of social 534 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 4: media and all the cameras. 535 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: You know. 536 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: I'm curious. Next year, Major League Baseball is going to 537 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: introduce to ABS automatic ball strike System, and I'm wondering 538 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: if you think the implementation of that. Is that going 539 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: to change the focus on pitch framing and whatnot, or 540 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: is the fact that it's only two challenges not change anything. 541 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: You have any thoughts on that. 542 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: Still working through that right now, but I think it's 543 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 4: going to change things. I think there's going to be 544 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: more concentration on just catching the ball. 545 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if. 546 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 4: You're going to see the guys move their glove as 547 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 4: much as they are now just because all you're trying 548 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: to do is catch it, you know. I think the 549 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: most important thing I think next year is going to 550 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: be that the catcher knows the strike's own better than anybody. 551 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: So if he does catch a ball, you know, he 552 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: catches a nasty sinker that's running out of the zone 553 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 4: and he's like, I know that clip the bottom of 554 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: the zone. Even though my glove ended up in the dirt. 555 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: You know, he's going to be able to challenge that. 556 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: So we're still talking through it. We do have the 557 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 4: ABS system on the iPads now so that we can 558 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 4: look which is what we had in spring training, so 559 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: you can look at what was called during the game 560 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 4: and then see, hey, was that an ABS strike? The 561 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: only thing I question about right now, I think left 562 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: and right, in and out is good at the ABS. 563 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: The up and down I don't know if the one 564 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: we're looking at is the actual percentage what we use 565 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 4: in spring training, So up and down is kind of questionable, 566 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: but you know it's stuff we talk about. You know, hey, 567 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: would we have challenged that one? Should we not challenge that? 568 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 4: But that's something definitely in spring training next year we're 569 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 4: going to try to do as much receiving, whether it's 570 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 4: off a machine or catching bullpens with the ABS slash 571 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: track man on and you. 572 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: Know, question guys like less technique and more was that 573 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: a ball or strike? 574 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 5: Hey, I did have a question for you personally. I 575 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 5: know that you've had some discussions with some organizations. I'm 576 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 5: not trying to get to kick out of Philadelphia, but 577 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 5: I think that you're one of those guys that really 578 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: should be considered as a manager for a major league team. 579 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 5: You've had the experience in a variety of ways, particularly 580 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 5: here in Philadelphia with a great organization. But do you 581 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 5: still have aspirations of being a manager and is that 582 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 5: something that is still a personal goal for you? 583 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. 584 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 4: I think you know, if you would asked me three, 585 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: four or five years ago, I would have probably said 586 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 4: I'll take any job. I don't care if they lost 587 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty games last year or they got 588 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 4: a chance to go to the playoffs this year. 589 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: I think I'm in a different situation now. You know. I 590 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: love the organization. 591 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: This is my twentieth year being a player, minor league manager, 592 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 4: coach in the big leagues, So that's something's about Obviously, 593 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: the Phillies have been like a family to me. If 594 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: you would have told me when I started playing this 595 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: game nineteen ninety four that I would have been with 596 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: an organization for twenty years, I would have said, you're crazy, 597 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: So I really enjoy it I'm doing here. That being said, 598 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: I'd still love to manage, but for me now, it 599 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: has to be the right opportunity, the right place, the 600 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: right city for myself and my family. I have one 601 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: left in high school, so he's a sophomore in high school. 602 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: So probably to go to the West Coast would be 603 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 4: a little bit much at this point. But you know, 604 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 4: staying on the East Coast, maybe somewhere in the Midwest, 605 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 4: being a little bit closer to home, I would probably 606 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: like the opportunity, depending on what the situation ends up 607 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: being with that organization, how close are they to winning, 608 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: what their front office looks like. So, you know, I 609 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: went into an interview last year and then I led 610 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: with you know, you guys are interviewing me today, but 611 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: I'm interviewing you as much as your interviewing me, just 612 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: because I want to hear what you guys have to say. 613 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: This has to be a right fit for me. I'm 614 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: not here just to answer questions and try to get 615 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 4: this job. I want to find out about your organization, 616 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: what you see going forward, and you know it just 617 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: wasn't a good fit. And that's how I look at 618 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: it now. It's got to be the right spot. I 619 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 4: won't just jump at anything, Dusty. 620 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: Maybe we can lighten it up a little bit. You 621 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: and Ruben have something in common. Your dad's were both 622 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: in the dugout in nineteen eighty for the World Series. 623 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: Your dad as a catcher with the Kansas City Royals. 624 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: Ruben's dad, former Phillies player, was a coach on the 625 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: eighty team Phillies win the World Series that year. Ruben 626 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: was a bad boy, but you both intimately involved with 627 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: those two World Series combatants. What is your memory of 628 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty as a kid in the Phillies Royals World Series. 629 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 4: Well, we had big plans for steak and lobster dinner. 630 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: We ended up with hamburger. Ruben got the steak and lobsters. 631 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: I think. 632 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: I was seven years old. Then didn't come to Philadelphia, 633 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: went to some relative house. My mom came to Philly, 634 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: so never got to Philly for that. But so I 635 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: was a little bit younger in that one. The nineteen 636 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 4: eighty five one was my dad's last year playing, so 637 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 4: I was thirteen, started kind of bat boying and doing 638 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: stuff like that at that time. So that was a 639 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: lot of fun out That's the one I really remember. 640 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 4: I do remember parts, bits and pieces of the eighty 641 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: I remember being at the game when when Dicky threw 642 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: at George and they say it changed the whole dynamic 643 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: of the World Series. But yeah, we were at those games, 644 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: skipping school a little bit back in the day, old 645 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: school day game World Series games, So yeah, it was. 646 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. 647 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: I think Ruben and I have a lot, a lot 648 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 4: of good memories from bat Boyan and being in clubhouses, 649 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 4: and I think we've seen a lot and we were 650 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 4: fortunate to see all that stuff and keep it in 651 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 4: our mind's eye and probably not let a lot of 652 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 4: it out. 653 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: Who was your favorite player other than your dad. 654 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: Oh, there's a lot of them, A lot of great 655 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: guys to me. George Brett obviously really good friend of 656 00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: my dad's. 657 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: They lived together in spring training for years. Bud Black 658 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: was a great, great, great guy. 659 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: He was one of the great guys I ever saw 660 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 4: get traded, you know, as a kid, and and that 661 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 4: that really hit hard. And uh, one of the first 662 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: probably autographs I ever got when he got traded. I 663 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: grabbed a picture of him and said, hey, can you 664 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: sign this? 665 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: And he said. 666 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah sure, and you know, typical Blackie fashion, He's he 667 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 4: put hey man, love all love you or something like 668 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 4: that and signed it for me. 669 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: So sweet man, great man. 670 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 5: Oh he was a locker made of mine in in 671 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 5: ninety five when he was in Cleveland. 672 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just a super human being. 673 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 5: Just with him in the ninety five uhen we had 674 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 5: the reunion there. 675 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, great guy, George Blackie. There are so 676 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: many good guys growing up there. 677 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean I grew up with a bunch of us, 678 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: played on the same. 679 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: Little league team together, Paul's foot or son, Jamie, Dennis 680 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: Lennard Jr. 681 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: Steve Busby went to school with his daughter. 682 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 4: Like we all kind of lived in the same little 683 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: town outside about eight ten miles from the stadium. 684 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: So there was a lot of great guys. 685 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: But Bo Jackson was He played for my dad's roommate 686 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: in the minor leagues, Hal Baird, at Auburn, so I 687 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: met him before he even signed with the Royals at 688 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: Auburn Alabama game and then my dad ends up managing him. 689 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: So you know, I know him pretty good. But what 690 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 4: good guy, great guy? 691 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: How about a you got a great George Brett story. 692 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: I used to love George Brett. 693 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: One that I can tell on here. 694 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: Uh, I mean, if you want to get really crazy, 695 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: you could tell the one you don't want to tell 696 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: on here. 697 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of them. Ruben's probably got a 698 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: couple of stories from the from the clubhouse that. Yeah. No, 699 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: George is funny guy. He So. 700 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 4: I know one time my dad bought a Bronco from 701 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: him for like five thousand bucks and like five home 702 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: cooked meals, which I worked twice as much as that 703 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 4: because George was single at the time. But yeah, I 704 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: mean George would come over for Thanksgiving. I have one 705 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: good story of George I could tell that that. This 706 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: kind of tells where he. 707 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: Was at that time of his life. 708 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: So he's coming over for Thanksgiving Giving dinner and he 709 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: tells my mom I got a half peace. He said, Okay, 710 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: I'll get your fresh piece. He goes, no, no, no, 711 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 4: I need frozen piece. She says okay. 712 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: So George comes over. 713 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: It's early in the day, my mom's starting to cook 714 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 4: or whatever, and he goes, you got the piece. 715 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I haven't cooked itim yet. He goes, no, no, 716 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: I just need the piece. 717 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 4: So he gets the peas out, he puts one on 718 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: his lips, leans back on the on the next to 719 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: the kitchen sinks, and he's blowing it up in the 720 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: air and he thinks, this is the greatest trick he's 721 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 4: ever done in his life. He's got this peece floating 722 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 4: up above his mouth. And that's the only reason he 723 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 4: wanted peas at Thanksgiving dinner was so he somehow found 724 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 4: this trick out and he thought this was the greatest 725 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 4: thing ever. 726 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: So that was where George was at the time. It 727 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: was like, that is great, Oh my god. 728 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: It well, Dussy, thanks so much, and I'm sure Billy's 729 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: fans are hoping that in about a month you're doing 730 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: what you did not do after Game six of the 731 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty World Series, that you're having a nice steak 732 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: and lobster dinner, yes, sir. 733 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: And a nice cigar with maybe a little I don't know, 734 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: there you go. 735 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks again to Dusty Watthon for the time. 736 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: Jim. 737 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: We're going to be back on Friday with our Game 738 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: one nl DS previews, so make sure you check it 739 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: out on Friday morning. 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