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Speaker 2: So we are going to catch up with Albert Breer

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Speaker 2: here coming up in about twenty minutes from now, because

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Speaker 2: you know, he had an article written about Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there are people he's talked to around the NFL

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Speaker 2: maybe don't have him, you know, high up there on

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Speaker 2: their list because of the tools and the traits and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. There's also this other story that's out

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Speaker 2: there where, according to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk, that

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Speaker 2: the NFL may extend invitations to the draft for players

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Speaker 2: who are projected to be selected later in the three

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Speaker 2: day process. So that means it's not just the first

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Speaker 2: round guys or a Will Levis who decides, you know what,

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Speaker 2: even though I'm going to go Day two, I'm just

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Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and bail and get the hell on

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Speaker 2: out of here. It's going to be everybody else in

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Speaker 2: the draft potentially getting invites to go ahead and fill

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Speaker 2: this whole thing out, Which why wouldn't you, Yeah, like,

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Speaker 2: if this is a one, once in a lifetime opportunity,

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Speaker 2: why not open it up and let everybody share, even

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Speaker 2: if they're not a Day one pick and they go

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Speaker 2: round two to three, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: If you've got the room, why not make it happen.

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Speaker 4: And this was all based on they are having a

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Speaker 4: hard time getting more people to want to go to

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Speaker 5: Is that in essence what it is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because more and more people are just like, I'll

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Speaker 3: just do it at home, do my own.

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Speaker 4: Thing, yeah, which, okay, so let me just peel back

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Speaker 4: the curtains. I still stand by this, and this is

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Speaker 4: not a knock on Green Bay, Wisconsin or any other

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Speaker 4: city that's hosted the Draft. By the way, New York's

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Speaker 4: different though, all right, folks like it's New York. There's

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Speaker 4: something to that. There's certain cities that kind of have

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Speaker 4: that aura about it. However, you want to put it,

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Speaker 4: no different than when we had the Super Bowl Las

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Speaker 4: Vegas and we walked away from that, everyone goes, this

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Speaker 4: wouldn't be a bad sight to just have the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl here every year, Like I think everyone would be

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Speaker 4: excited about that. That was kind of the draft that

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Speaker 4: used to be in New York and when you were invited,

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Speaker 4: when you went, it was one of the coolest experiences,

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Speaker 4: one of the best weeks things that you the way

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Speaker 4: you were able to impact, you know, young kids' lives,

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Speaker 4: around the NFL. The entire thing was awesome. Since they've

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Speaker 4: bit of its luster and if you want me to

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Speaker 4: really peel back the curtain. One of the ways, and

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Speaker 4: one of the reasons why maybe more guys used to

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Speaker 4: do media tours. It's the number one media market, So

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Speaker 4: players would go ahead of time. Even players who would

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Speaker 5: They would still go to New York.

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Speaker 4: You would go through a bunch of you know, different

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Speaker 4: when parents have kids who show promise in junior high,

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Speaker 4: That's how crazy this whole process has become. So there's

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Speaker 4: For example, if you go back to the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: the top eight quarterbacks Arch Manning, Nico Iamaliava, Dante Moore, Jackson, Arnold,

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Speaker 4: most cases there was probably some sort of financial incentive

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Speaker 4: that's kind of the business of this. And so these

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Speaker 4: the NFL brought me in to consult after my draft

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Speaker 5: We're having a hard time doing this.

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Speaker 4: This is back in like two thousand and nine, twenty

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Speaker 4: you need to create opportunities to pay them to be there.

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Speaker 4: And that's just the truth. As much as it's a

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Speaker 4: because they can make money off it. They can kind

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Speaker 4: of sell it as a live TV show or reality

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Speaker 4: not paying these kids to be a part of their

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Speaker 4: reality TV show, which is the Draft, why not try

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Speaker 4: to stay at home do it yourself. At least you're

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: I could see both sides of it.

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Speaker 6: Moving it around, trying to get exposure into different markets,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that it has as much appeal. If

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Speaker 6: maybe maybe this isn't the situation or the scenario that's

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Speaker 6: that was therefore the NFL Draft, before all of this

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Speaker 6: I mean, if you can recall how the draft was marketed,

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Speaker 6: I mean, just seeing the different players and players that

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Speaker 6: on on to the stage. I mean, and for what

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Speaker 6: it's worth, hugging the commissioner did not start with Roger Goodell.

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Speaker 6: By the way, it's like this whole thing about Roger Goodell.

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Speaker 6: The first person, I guess Gerald McCoy is credited would

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Speaker 6: commissioner when you get drafted. I don't know how true

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Speaker 6: that is, because I a ton of people every time

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Speaker 6: you went on stage hug Paul Tagliovu, of course, hell yeah,

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Speaker 6: I just got hired by the NFL. Did you shake

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Speaker 6: or just go straight hug. I shook his hand first,

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Speaker 6: and then I gave him a hug. Yeah, good to

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Speaker 6: see you. I mean, it's it's yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: It was quite an experience, and I think it loses

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Speaker 6: I mean, some of them are just meant to be

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Speaker 6: where they're meant to be if you ask me. Now,

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl has always been a move around deal,

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Speaker 6: but the Draft was was situated, and so was the

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Speaker 6: Pro Bowl. And I think that you know, you you

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Speaker 6: moving both the Pro Bowl and moving the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: Just my take. She don't like the drafting moved out

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Speaker 6: Wanna say, I don't like it being but if you

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Speaker 6: see the Blue White game the next day. But I

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Speaker 6: just didn't. I didn't feel any like, why do I

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Speaker 6: want to go to Green Bay, Wisconsin for the Draft?

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Speaker 6: So I'm not trying to throw shade. I'm just saying

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Speaker 6: as well, I think there's more cachet. I think there's

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Speaker 6: more draw. I think there's more reason to want to

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Speaker 6: event if it's being held in a place like New

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Speaker 6: I thought about it, gave it more thought than what

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Speaker 6: I did for this thing. I mean, it's not I

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Speaker 6: I don't want to go to Green Bay, but it's

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Speaker 5: That's one of the.

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Speaker 6: Places you go for the pros to get an experience,

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Speaker 6: But as far as going there for a draft, and

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Speaker 6: I'm sure it's probably going to be a nice activation.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the NFL does a great job with their activations.

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Speaker 6: It's not I'm not throwing shade. I'm just saying, in general,

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Speaker 6: is that more attractive? Is it more attractive to say

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Speaker 6: we're moving it around and Okay, you had a great one,

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Speaker 6: you had a great pool when it went to Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: Like everybody I talked about the one that was in Tennessee,

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Speaker 6: they rave about that one, and I think they felt

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Speaker 3: And it just hasn't been that.

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Speaker 2: I've heard nothing but good things about it, cause it's been.

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Speaker 2: It started in Chicago, went to Philly, it went to Dallas,

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Speaker 8: I'm sure they were not meth heads, but it's not

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Speaker 5: What the hell are you talking about?

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Speaker 10: What's up? Guys? How we doing all right?

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Speaker 2: Have you gotten any pushback or flack regarding your article

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Speaker 10: Not much? No, I mean I think, uh, you know,

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Speaker 10: I think but I think I think they're starting to realize,

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Speaker 10: a lot of these teams look at it and say

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Speaker 5: Was Okay.

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Speaker 4: That being said, though, and you've done this for a

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Speaker 5: Is it just Cam Woard at this point? And then

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Speaker 4: General do you think are really have first round grades

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Speaker 4: that teams are saying, Yeah, but you know they don't

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Speaker 10: No, it's a good point, Brady, Like, I think this

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Speaker 10: Like I think this year, that number is probably closer

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Speaker 10: something you have to take into account here, is that

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Speaker 10: teams get desperate and it's the most important position on

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Speaker 6: With all that being said, Abe, they did bring in

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Speaker 5: Is that I mean?

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Speaker 3: Is that posturing?

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Speaker 10: Is that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: So I would tell you, LeVar, I think this goes

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Speaker 10: They were around all these guys a lot in the fall.

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Speaker 10: So I mean there are even a few guys that

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Speaker 10: at Penn State and Garrett Nussmeyer you know at LSU

441
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Speaker 10: and Carson Beck at Georgia and now at Miami. Like

442
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Speaker 10: they were around those guys a ton during the fall

443
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 10: because they knew quarterback was going to be need for

444
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Speaker 10: them and they wanted to really dive in and get

445
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Speaker 10: to know the class really well. So like this is

446
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Speaker 10: the last piece of that. And I think they will

447
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Speaker 10: take a quarterback somewhere, but I don't think that the

448
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Speaker 10: likelihood right now is they take a third. Overall, they

449
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 10: did work out Jackson Dart about a month ago. They

450
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Speaker 10: worked them out in mid March, so like that was

451
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Speaker 10: the first of the private workhouse they did. And you know,

452
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Speaker 10: now they're getting these three done here at the end

453
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Speaker 10: and being able Sho to do her today Jalen Miller

454
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Speaker 10: Roe tomorrow and Tyler Shuck on Saturday. So I mean

455
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Speaker 10: they've run the gamut with all these guys, and you know,

456
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Speaker 10: I think reading into it is like this is like

457
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Speaker 10: a new level of interest or this is like some

458
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Speaker 10: sort of renewed interest, like I think as much as

459
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Speaker 10: anything else, And this is you know something I wrote

460
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Speaker 10: the other day. This is John Mahra basically saying to

461
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Speaker 10: this guys, like if we're going to pass on the

462
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Speaker 10: quarterback at three, like, let's make sure we know what

463
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Speaker 10: we're passing on. I mean, you may remember seven years

464
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 10: ago they didn't make a mistake taking Saquon Barkley second overall,

465
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Speaker 10: but Josh Allen was under consideration there, you know, and

466
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Speaker 10: and and so you know if they wind up passing

467
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Speaker 10: on on Josh Allen at that point, and you know,

468
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Speaker 10: I think part of it for the for the for

469
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Speaker 10: the maras you know again, is well, you know, if

470
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Speaker 10: we're if we're not taking a quarterback of three with

471
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Speaker 10: this crying need we have with this pick that we have,

472
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Speaker 10: then we need to be damn sure we don't know

473
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Speaker 10: these guys inside now before we do it.

474
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Speaker 3: Albert.

475
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Speaker 2: As far as the Giants go, because we were talking

476
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Speaker 2: about that earlier, is what's the potential of them, you know,

477
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Speaker 2: maybe moving back out of the pick if they don't

478
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Speaker 2: have a need for an edge rusher like an abdual Carter,

479
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Speaker 2: maybe there's a team that desperately wants him or is

480
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Speaker 2: interested in that as being their pick. So have you

481
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Speaker 2: heard any teams specifically that have called or any teams

482
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Speaker 2: to keep an eye on that could potentially be moving there?

483
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know that anybody's coming. I mean, I

484
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 10: think it's I think it's hard logistically this year because

485
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Speaker 10: you can take the draft value chart and throw it

486
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Speaker 10: out this year. The reason why, at least at the

487
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Speaker 10: very top of the draft. The reason why is because

488
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Speaker 10: after Hunter and Carter, there's this feeling that the picks

489
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Speaker 10: you we've've been making there, whether it's Will Campbell or

490
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Speaker 10: Jalen Walker or Mason Graham or any of these guys,

491
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Speaker 10: Tyler Warren, Ashton Gent like a lot of those guys

492
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Speaker 10: would probably be picked fifteenth or twenty if last year, right, Like,

493
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Speaker 10: so like if you're the giants are Browns, You're looking

494
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Speaker 10: at it and you're there two and three with two

495
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Speaker 10: guys on the board that are legitimate blue chip guys,

496
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Speaker 10: and you're saying, all right, well, if we're going to

497
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Speaker 10: move out of here, going down to six this year

498
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Speaker 10: would be like going down to twenty last year. And

499
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Speaker 10: if that's the case, well then like, aren't you going

500
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Speaker 10: to ask for more from those teams? And are those

501
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Speaker 10: teams willing to pay that premium to come and move off?

502
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Speaker 10: I think that complication is quite a.

503
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Speaker 6: Bad I would ask Mott. I guess maybe not my

504
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Speaker 6: final question, but I'm curious about I made the point earlier,

505
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Speaker 6: Aba you know the New England Patriots are and let

506
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Speaker 6: me know if I'm accurate or off.

507
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Speaker 3: I didn't know if I was off or not.

508
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Speaker 6: But it sounds like Mike Vrabel was interested in TJ

509
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Speaker 6: Watt because negotiations aren't going very well in Pittsburgh. If

510
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Speaker 6: that is the case, well what does this mean for

511
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Speaker 6: possibly making a move? And you're at four, but would

512
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Speaker 6: you think that there's the possibility that they would try

513
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Speaker 6: to maybe swap out with the Giants to maybe get

514
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Speaker 6: a duel carter if they don't get a TJ.

515
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Speaker 3: Watt.

516
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Speaker 6: I mean, hearing that they want TJ Watt would come

517
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Speaker 6: across to me as you are placing a very very

518
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Speaker 6: high priority on the idea of in that position, correct, right.

519
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Speaker 10: Right, So, like I think Jalen Locker is somebody to

520
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 10: be in the mix for them to at for, you know,

521
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Speaker 10: And and it's you're juxtaposing that against like what they

522
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 10: the crying need they have for a tackle, right like

523
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Speaker 10: an help protect her young quarterbacks. So you know, whether

524
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Speaker 10: that's you know, Will Campbell or arm On Membu or

525
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 10: Kelvin Banks, whatever, you know, like I I think that

526
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Speaker 10: that's sort of the internal debate you're talking about that's

527
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 10: probably happening there now. I don't know they would give up.

528
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Speaker 10: I mean, they just I think the problem for them

529
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Speaker 10: is they just have too many needs to be giving

530
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Speaker 10: up a ton of capital to go up a spot.

531
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Speaker 10: And you know, if they were to say, give up

532
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Speaker 10: both their third round picks to go up a spot, well,

533
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Speaker 10: then you know, that's where the strength of this year's drafted.

534
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Speaker 10: And I think that complicated a little bit too. Is

535
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Speaker 10: like most teams look at it and say, okay, like

536
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Speaker 10: you know, one to twenty isn't as strong as it

537
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 10: usually is, but like twenty to seventy is pretty good,

538
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 10: you know. And so if you have if you have

539
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 10: a good amount of capital, you know, there on on

540
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 10: on Friday the draft they're in around two and three,

541
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 10: feel pretty good about that. So do you want to

542
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 10: give up that capital to fill you know, the the

543
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 10: number of means that you have on the roster to

544
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 10: jump one spot? I think it's a fair question to ask,

545
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 10: you know, And then like what again, what does it

546
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Speaker 10: take the Giants to move down from from from you know,

547
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Speaker 10: taking from taking Abdul Carter at three to maybe take

548
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 10: like save Mason Graham at four, Like how do they

549
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 10: view that? I think all that's part of the equation, Albert.

550
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Speaker 5: I want to ask you about Tyler Shuck.

551
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Speaker 4: It seems like he's gotten a lot of positive momentum

552
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Speaker 4: since Dannersina came out and says she had one NFL

553
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 4: head coach who said he they.

554
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Speaker 5: Like him best of any of these quarterbacks.

555
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Speaker 4: Is he kind of that surprise guy that could end

556
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Speaker 4: up going in the first round we're I'm talking about, Yeah,

557
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Speaker 4: I mean.

558
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Speaker 10: I think he's I don't think it's crazy to think

559
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 10: like he could, like somebody could try into the bottom

560
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 10: of the first round. Like I think like all these guys,

561
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 10: like there's just like a wide range of outcomes for

562
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 10: all of them. Like where I could see Shuck going

563
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Speaker 10: in the first round, I could see him sliding a

564
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 10: little in the second round, you know, like I And

565
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 10: he's he's a fascinating one because he's got a lot

566
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 10: of things some of these other guys, don't, you know

567
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 10: what I mean. He's got the size, he's got a

568
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 10: big arm. You know, he's a he's a good athlete.

569
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 10: He ran four six I believe, right like so like

570
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 10: he's got a lot of the things you like, but

571
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 10: he's going to be twenty six, he's got the classical injury.

572
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 10: You know, he's had trouble staying in the field over

573
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 10: the years. So like I think with each of these guys,

574
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 10: there's something you got to kind of wrap your head around,

575
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 10: you know, and like okay, like what am I okay

576
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 10: working with? And the medical is going to be a

577
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 10: big piece of it for for Tyler Shuck, And I

578
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 10: think the fact that he's a little older is something

579
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 10: you have to you have to be comfortable with too. Ultimately,

580
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Speaker 10: I think I think Cleveland would be an interesting team

581
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Speaker 10: for him, and they're taking right there at the top

582
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Speaker 10: of the second round, so you know, we'll see where

583
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 10: that goes. But I think he'd probably be right in

584
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 10: that range, like I you know, i'd be I'd be'd

585
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Speaker 10: be surprised to me if he goes in the first round,

586
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 10: but I certainly you think I don't think that's off

587
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 10: the table, and I think he's you know, like, I

588
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 10: think he probably goes somewhere in the second round.

589
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Speaker 2: Albert Brier joining us here on the Dan Patrick Show.

590
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Speaker 2: You can get him on X at Albert Brier, what's

591
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: the real story behind Derek Carr's injury.

592
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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a lot there. I mean, the injury is

593
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 10: two years old, so that's something to consider certainly. You know,

594
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 10: so like you have that, and then you know, on

595
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 10: top of it, like you know, there was one point

596
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Speaker 10: in the off season when he was looking for a

597
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 10: market correction to his contract. You know, then then you know,

598
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 10: does he want to be traded? That word sort of

599
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 10: circular editor around the league in early March. Then you know,

600
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 10: like then they do the conversion on his contract, which

601
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 10: I mean they didn't have they didn't need to seek

602
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 10: permission for that, Like they had the automatic conversion in

603
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 10: the contract, so they weren't able to do that unilaterally.

604
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 10: But they still they didn't really work with him on it,

605
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 10: and so they just go and do that, which basically

606
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 10: locks him into the team for this year. And now

607
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 10: you hear like this injury thing, all of a sudden

608
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 10: is an issue. There's just there's a lot going on there,

609
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 10: I would say, And there's a lot to sort through

610
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 10: for for for for Derek Carr and the Saints, and

611
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 10: I don't know the way this ends, but it certainly

612
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 10: had a layered to to where they're at going into

613
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Speaker 10: the draft, what they might do with the ninet oberall tick,

614
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Speaker 10: what they might do on the Friday the draft. Yeah,

615
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 10: I think they were. They were. They were looking pretty

616
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 10: heavily at quarterbacks to begin with. It'll be interesting to

617
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 10: see if it affects their approach when they get to

618
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 10: the actual draft.

619
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Speaker 6: You mentioned earlier going at the draft, and I'm passing

620
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 6: on Alan, what what's your take? I've been telling the

621
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Speaker 6: whole entire world for so long, and and I've just

622
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Speaker 6: been ringing the bail and and just trying to holler

623
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Speaker 6: from every mountaintop that I can about Ashton Genty and

624
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 6: and his his talent. And no I'm joking. I take

625
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 6: it up to messing with Brady.

626
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 10: Uh.

627
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 6: Brady has actually been telling people how great Ashton Genty

628
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: has been before he became maybe more so of a

629
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 6: household name, how should we be looking at you know,

630
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 6: where he's at, and how set up for this year's drest.

631
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 10: I've actually I tried to ask people my conversations like

632
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 10: how does he match up with the guys that have

633
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 10: gone in that range at that position in recent years?

634
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 10: So say kwan Zeke Elliott you know, Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey.

635
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 10: There aren't very many of them, you know, John Robinson,

636
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 10: So there are very many guys that have gone in

637
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 10: that range. And I the the feedback I've gotten is

638
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 10: like he's maybe like a slight notch below that group

639
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 10: of guys, you know, but he's a really really good player.

640
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 10: And because he's so clean character wise, like you have

641
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 10: like a really good idea of what you're going to

642
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 10: get with him, right, So is it gonna be the

643
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 10: best back in football? I don't know, you know, because

644
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 10: I think all those guys I mentioned, like we're seeing

645
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 10: as like, Okay, like this's got a potential to be

646
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 10: the best player disposition. But he's a damn good player,

647
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 10: and I think like where he goes just sort of

648
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 10: depends on how you approach that position in general. I

649
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 10: think this this relates to Tyler Warren to some degree,

650
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 10: to where you know, just a really good player and

651
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 10: you know, like it's it's kind of you know, going

652
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 10: to come down to team's comfort level with you know,

653
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 10: spending top ten picks on those positions.

654
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: Abe, does it feel like this draft is lacking a little,

655
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: uh little buzz?

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you what if she do or starts sliding,

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Speaker 10: it won't Okay. Yeah, I mean, like I think I

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Speaker 10: think you're right. Like last year, if you remember, like

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Speaker 10: the sexy positions were all were loaded right like you quarterbacks,

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Speaker 10: you had receivers. I mean it was it was and

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Speaker 10: and and even if like you're talking about just premium

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Speaker 10: positions in general, with the offensive tackles that were there.

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Speaker 10: I mean, last year was one of those years where

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Speaker 10: it was like, if you need help at a premium spot,

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Speaker 10: you can get it. It was a good TV draft.

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Speaker 10: I would say, you know, like with the three quarterbacks

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Speaker 10: of the top six in the top twelve and then

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Speaker 10: you know Marvin Harrison, Elik Neighbors and Roma Dunze there

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Speaker 10: in the top ten. This draft is not that way.

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Speaker 10: So this draft doesn't have that sort of star power.

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Speaker 10: You're gonna have offensive line and you're gonna have, you know,

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Speaker 10: defensive line, and I think pretty heavy in the first

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Speaker 10: twenty picks or so. So look, I think this draft's

674
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Speaker 10: going to be about storylines, and one of the storylines

675
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Speaker 10: is what happens wash do or I think it's I

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Speaker 10: think one thing that is cool about it is because

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Speaker 10: I'd say it flattens out after the first two guys,

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Speaker 10: Like after Hunter and Carter, you're gonna kind of get

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Speaker 10: to a point where I think it's gonna be pretty unpredictable,

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Speaker 10: and so there could be some curve balls and certain

681
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Speaker 10: guys going ahead of other guys because I think it

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Speaker 10: is sort of flat like once you get past those

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Speaker 10: two guys. So I'll enjoy it, but I'll enjoy it,

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Speaker 10: but I can understand where it would be lacking a

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Speaker 10: little bit like the drive by fans.

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Speaker 4: Albert, did you say you felt like there was gonna

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Speaker 4: be a lot of trades or maybe not a lot

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Speaker 4: of trades.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't remember when we talked to you a couple

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Speaker 5: weeks ago.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think there'll be a lot at the top.

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Speaker 10: I think he gets in the back half of the

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Speaker 10: first round. I think that dynamic I had mentioned Brady

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Speaker 10: about how like if you're again, if you're valuing this

695
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Speaker 10: year's fifteenth tick like you would last year's fifth pick,

696
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Speaker 10: or the other way around. If you if you if

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Speaker 10: you value this year said the pick like you would

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Speaker 10: last year's fifteen stick, then I think that logistically makes

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Speaker 10: it difficult to move in the first round and I

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Speaker 10: do think it's like you like view, say you view

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Speaker 10: like Will Campbell and armand Membo is similar, or you

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Speaker 10: view you know, Jalen Walker and Michael Williams and Shamar

703
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Speaker 10: Stewart like there's not a huge difference, like or Will

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Speaker 10: Johnson and Jji Baron. Well, then like, what's gonna motivate

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Speaker 10: you to move up? Like I think the motivation to

706
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Speaker 10: move up is like when the supply in those spots

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Speaker 10: maybe starts throw and dry a little, and that's later

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Speaker 10: in the first round. So I'd say, like the first

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Speaker 10: half of the first round I think will be relatively static,

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Speaker 10: and then we get the back half of the round,

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Speaker 10: things change a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So so real quick on that note, Typically when there's

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Speaker 4: these different draft classes, you've always said, and this used

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Speaker 4: to be around the combine and we'd bump into each other,

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Speaker 4: teams would be like salivating over a guy in like

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Speaker 4: the next year's draft, sometimes at a certain position. And

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Speaker 4: obviously this quarterback class is viewed as one that's that's

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Speaker 4: weaker and compared to last year. Is there a sense

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Speaker 4: of that with arch Manning? Like is there a sense

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Speaker 4: around the NFL in league that like if he does

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Speaker 4: what everyone thinks he's going to do this year, that

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Speaker 4: he would leave, and he would, without a doubt be

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Speaker 4: one of those generational prospects because the NFL has seen

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Speaker 4: the story twice before or maybe three times, including the brothers,

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Speaker 4: but through generations of the Manning's working out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I can't wait to see what happens.

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Speaker 10: I don't know that anybody can speak to it with

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Speaker 10: a lot of like certainty at this point because he talent, right, Like,

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Speaker 10: but I don't know, Brady, what do you think? Like

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Speaker 10: I look at it like he had his two starts

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Speaker 10: were against inferior opponents, wasn't it It was against like

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Speaker 10: a directional school and like a or was it? I

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Speaker 10: can't remember, but it was against directional school I think

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Speaker 10: in the Mississippi State who was we didn't want a

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Speaker 10: game in the SEC. So, like, I'm not saying that

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Speaker 10: to knock him, but it's just, you know, like you

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Speaker 10: still haven't seen enough. Like and if if his name

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Speaker 10: were you know, if his last name were Smith, like,

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Speaker 10: I think we'd probably be looking at him and Texas

740
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 10: fans would be super excited because of what he is physically.

741
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Speaker 10: But I don't think we'd be talking about him like

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Speaker 10: it's gonna be the first pick in the draft. You know.

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Speaker 5: So so two things.

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Speaker 4: He obviously bigger than quin you weres and obviously yours

745
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Speaker 4: was dealing with some sort of injury what have you.

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Speaker 4: But even when yours was healthy, stronger arm, better athlete.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's going to translate in a Steve

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Speaker 4: Sarkisan system to a big year in particular, what week

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Speaker 4: one they played some some big school I think if

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Speaker 4: it shows out week one this upcoming season, I'll set

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Speaker 4: the town for the rest of it.

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Speaker 10: Right, Well, yeah, and I agree with that. Like here's

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Speaker 10: where I would say, though, like just looking at the face,

754
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Speaker 10: so beats.

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Speaker 5: Down who they play week one? Like it like here

756
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Speaker 5: comes the hype train. Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? If he if he shows that in week one, yeah,

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Speaker 10: that the hype train can leave the station. I would

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Speaker 10: say this. So I think I think Cooper Manning has

760
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Speaker 10: done an incredible job, like from what I can see,

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Speaker 10: at least managing like his helping helping to manage his sons,

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Speaker 10: like like you know, his playing career. I don't know,

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Speaker 10: Like I don't know why anybody gets will get the

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Speaker 10: idea that it's automatic that that he's going to come

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Speaker 10: out if he has a great year. I mean, if

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Speaker 10: you look at it, Peyton stayed, Eli stayed when they

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Speaker 10: were in school, you know, Arch Manning in a spot

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Speaker 10: when a lot of guys would have left Texas, he

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Speaker 10: stayed and stuck it out and sat for two years.

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Speaker 10: And then there's a lot of like there's a lot

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Speaker 10: of evidence that what is the marker. I think it's

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Speaker 10: like twenty five starts in college, Like there's a big

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Speaker 10: difference when you're talking about it being a predictor for

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Speaker 10: success in the pros, Like generally guys who start a

775
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Speaker 10: lot of games in college have a bit of have

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Speaker 10: an advantage over guys that don't. So like I would

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Speaker 10: just look at it, like I mean, like everything we

778
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 10: know about the Manning family, it tells us like they're

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Speaker 10: not gonna They're not going to just chase money or

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Speaker 10: a certain draft position if it's there for them. Like

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Speaker 10: I I don't know, it just it feels to me

782
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 10: like it's a lot more likely that that he's going

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Speaker 10: to spend at least two years as the starting quarterback

784
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Speaker 10: in Texas. I might be wrong, but but but it

785
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 10: just it at least feels that way to me now.

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Speaker 10: And you know, I again like I and we talked

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Speaker 10: about next year's class. I think there there are some

788
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Speaker 10: guys look at throughout our Kent State Garrett not Smyer

789
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Speaker 10: at LSU, Leonora's Sellers at South Carolina. I just I

790
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Speaker 10: don't know. I don't know that it'd be so fast

791
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 10: about arch maning and that class base and what we

792
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Speaker 10: know about how his family's handled these into the past.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but again week one, if he if he just

794
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Speaker 4: blows out that upon a Week one, especially on the road,

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Speaker 4: you know a good sense.

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Speaker 10: That well, you're like willing, you're willing this to happen. Now,

797
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 10: hu you really love?

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Speaker 5: Do you know? Do you happen to know who Texas

799
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Speaker 5: plays Week one next year?

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Speaker 10: I do? I do. I mean I heard there's another

801
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 10: highly scouted quarterback that might be playing that by the

802
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 10: name of Julian saying you might want to.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure on the same page here, I'm spar sure, huh,

804
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure on the same page.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you might want to study up on him for

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Speaker 10: picking and kickoff. You guys might be talking about.

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Speaker 5: Buddy, And here's how little you know.

808
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: Then, here's how little you know last spring game, when

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00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: everyone was drooling about Jeremi Smith, I sat there instead

810
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: on the broadcast, I said joy and saying has the

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Speaker 4: higher upside like Ohio State, I think could have done

812
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Speaker 4: what they did last year, even with.

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Speaker 10: Saying starting wow, well you made me feel a lot better.

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Speaker 10: I appreciate that. Brady, thank you.

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Speaker 3: It all comes here. It is ab We appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 3: We'll do it again next week. There he is.

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Speaker 2: I get him on x at Albert Breers, Senior NFL Reporter,

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Speaker 3: All right, d Lap, what do we got? Well?

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Speaker 8: I think me and Farr have a similar schedule today.

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Speaker 8: Right after the show. I think we're both heading to

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Speaker 8: the dentist. That's correct, different Dennis, of course, but.

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Speaker 3: Head in the Pasadena getting your teeth clean.

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Speaker 8: I'm just doing a routine cleaning. Far has got some

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Speaker 8: uh it's work.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious as to how this is all going to

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Speaker 6: go down. Am I going to get a cap? Because

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Speaker 6: I was, I was waiting to get a crown, and

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Speaker 6: so I had a temporary on and I think I

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Speaker 6: destroyed my whole tooth though, So I wonder if I'm

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Speaker 6: still getting a crown or if I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 6: get a what is.

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Speaker 3: That called an endplane or whatever? That's bad damn nuts man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and me and var we were both talking about it.

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Speaker 8: We've both been sleeping on the couch a lot lately,

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Speaker 8: not because we're in the doghouse or anything like that,

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Speaker 8: just because.

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Speaker 3: I'm a couch couch.

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Speaker 8: You know, what they say about couches for rich people

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Speaker 8: is that the couch doesn't touch a wall. I don't

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Speaker 8: get it, rich people. The couch doesn't touch a wall.

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Speaker 8: It's somewhere in the middle of the room.

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Speaker 3: Most people.

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Speaker 6: It's so crazy, and I'm trying to Yeah, what is

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Speaker 6: at first?

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Speaker 5: What is that? Because the rooms are so big.

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Speaker 4: Okay, think about it. The rooms are so big, you

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Speaker 4: don't you have to put it up against a wall.

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Speaker 4: You just put it somewhere in the middle. Oh, I

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Speaker 4: can't relate to that. That's how it was in my

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Speaker 4: old house, not like that here in my new one.

873
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Speaker 4: So so that's debunked. Unless I'm not rich, of course,

874
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Speaker 4: might not be rich something.

875
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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, but I like my my couch and

876
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Speaker 6: I'm going to get on it tonight.

877
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Speaker 3: By the way,