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Speaker 1: the world. It's like the radio but forever. I'm Robert

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Speaker 1: Evans and this is Behind the Bastards podcast. Bad people

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Speaker 1: talk about him, YadA, YadA, YadA. You know the drill.

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Speaker 1: Most of you have probably listened before, and if not,

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Speaker 1: this episode will be completely baffling because today I have

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Speaker 1: my buddies and my favorite podcasters. Uh Dan and Jordan's

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Speaker 1: from the podcast Knowledge Fight. Dan Jordan's Hello years ago,

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Speaker 1: many years ago, when my podcast was new and your

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Speaker 1: podcast was like a year old. Um, I did Jesus um.

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Speaker 1: We have four hundred episodes Behind the Bastards. It's wild

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Speaker 1: how many of you guys put out Uh yeah, but

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Speaker 1: we had so we did. Like um, I did a

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Speaker 1: And also I think it's fair to say at this

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Speaker 1: out consistently, like there's nothing consistent about the things the

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Speaker 1: fact will claims that Alex makes like he's comprehensively a

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00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: liar and the fabulous and it's all documented using nothing

429
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: but his own show. Yeah. Yeah, the most important thing

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00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: is expedients, nothing else, what's useful and quick exactly. Um.

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Speaker 1: So this this next work is actually of the pre

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Speaker 1: mentioned Steve Pochenic, because I think that when people write

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Speaker 1: the history of COVID, this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: really important thing for people to remember. Corona coronavirus coming in.

435
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Speaker 1: We will be safe. I can guarantee is because I

436
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: treated a patient a month ago was really the first

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Speaker 1: case of the coronavirus before I was ever reported of

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00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: a gentleman who met with a Chinese individual and got

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Speaker 1: the pneumonia and he was treated with high doses of antibiotics.

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Speaker 1: And I am to know this individual very well because

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Speaker 1: that individual happens to be me, service and the attorney together. Yep,

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00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: so Steve was patient zero in the energetic antibiotics. Yes,

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Speaker 1: well that's that. I mean, this is critical. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of covid historians on the cast, so I'm

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00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: glad we've gotten this out. It's this canon. It's really

446
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: nice to know that we don't have to worry about

447
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. That it's gonna be okay, it's not gonna

448
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: be a big problem. Um, I am. Let me travel

449
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: back in time and tell myself that I won't be

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Speaker 1: spending the next two years barely leaving my house because

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Speaker 1: of the earth shattering plague. It will all be that.

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Speaker 1: It is one of my favorite things to imagine Steve

453
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: pogenic during any pandemic throughout history. Just explained to it. Listen, Alex,

454
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: Tuberculosis shouldn't be called consumption. What I did is consume

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Speaker 1: the virus. That's how it works. Um. We are going

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00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: to continue on this, but first, you know who loves

457
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: Steve Pachetik. Who's that the products and services support this podcast?

458
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: Because they know, if the Italian government ever starts leaning

459
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: a little bit to the left, Steve jen is gonna

460
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: come in. He's gonna kill that motherfucking president Italy, and

461
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep those products flowing through the Italian countryside.

462
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: You know, here's ads. Ah, We're back. So Steve got

463
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: in the news recently, right, there was some ship Yeah

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Speaker 1: what yeah, talk, Let's talk about this a second, because

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00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: this was kind of a big story. Um. So, Clarence

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Speaker 1: Thomas's wife, Jennie Thomas h during during the overthrow of

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Speaker 1: the United States and when she was doing a little

468
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: bit of light treason involved. Yeah, she was. She was

469
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: texting as Supreme Court Justice of the United States. Uh,

470
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: Steve Pochanic thoughts without question, and it was yeah, and

471
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: it was about the watermarket. Was absolutely about the watermarkets

472
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: being a perhaps legitimate way to to just invalidate the

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Speaker 1: entire election head it all on blockchain. Absolutely, And then

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Speaker 1: shortly after that it seems that Clarence Thomas was the

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Speaker 1: only person who was like, overthrowing the government is fine, right,

476
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: everybody's cool with that. Um does this does this suggest

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Speaker 1: because you know, Stev p has been in the mix

478
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Speaker 1: long enough that I could just see her having known

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00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: him from from his State department days, because do you

480
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: think she caught him on fucking from the from the

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones show. I think his name rings out in

482
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Speaker 1: conspiracy communities, like I think that he because of his

483
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: importance on Alex's show and the way that Alex basically

484
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: fraudulently allowed him to make up whatever credentials he wanted. Um,

485
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: he became pretty big within a subsection of the conspiracy world.

486
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: So he has his own kind of sphere of influence

487
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Speaker 1: that you probably found him through, and I think a

488
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: lot of Q people are kind of gravitating to him. Also.

489
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Speaker 1: Steve Pochenek, despite the fact that Tom Clancy wrote the

490
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: first Jack Ryan novel several years before their partnership, again,

491
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: insists that Jack Ryan is based entirely upon his life.

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00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: That sounds right, Yeah, he did. He That's also a

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00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: weird thing about Steve, as he had a partnership with

494
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Speaker 1: Tom Clancy for a period of time for The Net Force.

495
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: The Net Force novels not necessarily a adult franchise. They

496
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: also were ghost written by somebody else hasn't written a

497
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Speaker 1: novel for forty years. Let's just be mean. The Net

498
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Force stories were nearly as accurate as Shatner's Tech war novels,

499
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: which is quite accurate. Oh, what's really funny about tech

500
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Speaker 1: warf I'm remembering correctly. They basically like future detective stories.

501
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: But the primary, the center of every book is that

502
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: this guy is incredibly divorced and keeps having custody backs.

503
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: Really funny. What's what's great about that is that is

504
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: almost borderline similar to Isaac as Amos the Caves of

505
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Steel novels. You love to see it just nothing like

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Speaker 1: a divorced dude write in the book. Let's let's get

507
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk to write a sci fi novel that'll be that.

508
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Speaker 1: That would be a hoot. Let's not. Um okay, so

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00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: let's move on. Sure. Um. So, as we were leaving off,

510
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: we're getting sort of to the point where cases are

511
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Speaker 1: starting to rise in the United States, And at that

512
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: point things had to change because the narratives that Alex

513
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: were building at that point they weren't possible to sustain

514
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: in an environment of sustained spread in multiple countries. People

515
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: who aren't Chinese would be catching the virus, and there

516
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: goes the race specificative. For instance, plus Alex doesn't want

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00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: actual panic. He wants people to be on the edge

518
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: of panic, but still somewhat able to keep living in

519
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: normal life so they can afford to buy his products.

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00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: Making the audience directly interrationally afraid of the virus would

521
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: make them more likely to take public health guidance. Seriously,

522
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be good for Alex's market, So the main

523
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: emphasis was always to use the virus to push fear

524
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: about something else. The virus was meant for the globalists

525
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: to push forced vaccinations. People wearing masks was to train

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00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: people for the coming martial law. Social distancing was to

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Speaker 1: force people to vote remotely, which would allow Democrats to

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00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: steal the election. These were the kind of ways that

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00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: the tentacles grew out from the base of where the

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00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: narratives began. Yeah, what I would even argue is because

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Speaker 1: we did go back and look at when the Abula

532
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: outbreak happened in the United States, and Alex was treating

533
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: the initial days exactly the same way he did with

534
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: the Abula outbreak, the only difference being, of course, that

535
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: it was handled appropriately instead of the response to the

536
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: virus being overtaken by Jared Kushner and millions of people

537
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Speaker 1: being sentenced to death. So it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: A certain amount of luck and a certain amount of luck. Yes,

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00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: so there was a point I couldn't tell if we

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00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: had frozen. No, no, no, no, I was just I

541
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Speaker 1: was just in agreement, but did not have anything to

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Speaker 1: add at the Yeah, So there was actually even a

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Speaker 1: point we met. We brought up Mike Adams, the health

544
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: ranger earlier. There was actually a point where he was

545
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Speaker 1: trying to pitch the idea that terrorists had infected the

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Speaker 1: United States because they would get more virgins after they

547
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Speaker 1: die if they infected a city. And here is him

548
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: being a complete asshole. I don't know how many virgins

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00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: these Islamic terrorists get for blowing themselves up, but there's

550
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: probably bonus virgins out there if they in fact all

551
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: of New York City or something with this virus. I

552
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: don't know how their virginomics system works. You know, they're

553
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: insane and they think they're going so's I I hate

554
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: to admit this, but but I feel like this is

555
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: a safe place. I kind of think the term virgin

556
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: omics is is hilarious, and I may I may steal that,

557
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: I may take that one. The next time I have

558
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: to write about in cells. If you if you start

559
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: talking about virgin omics, that's a brick and that's fair.

560
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: That's fair. There's there's Reaganomics, there's freakonomics, and there's virgin omics.

561
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: Everybody knows those are the three pillars of American society.

562
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: And Reagan was a freaky virgin and he he for

563
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: share was that is that is the face of a

564
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: man who never fucked. Nancy told him it wasn't real.

565
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: So everything was really sloppy, and if you were listening

566
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: and paying attention to Alex's show back during these periods,

567
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: it would be really hard to nail down what his

568
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: position even was. And even if you did, it would

569
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: have changed a bunch since then, Like it was constantly

570
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: in flux, and it wasn't really ever. It's just you

571
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: know it, it's become whatever the right wing thing is.

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00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: Ye Iver Meckden is really huge, Uh, drop the chloroquin.

573
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: Every single thing that you see just getting traction in

574
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: the right wing media world is going to be something

575
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: Alex is gonna flirt with for a while um and

576
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: then if he likes it and it works, then he'll

577
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: incorporate it. Yeah, it's it's almost like the idea of

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00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: Alex being that, you know, his self professed tip of

579
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: the spear or having any sort of leadership over the

580
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory community community was completely abdicated. I mean, and

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00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: he's he's only been following since then. Well yeah, when

582
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: he tries to lead, it ends up with like that

583
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: Raccoon City. Yeah, that'll happen, or that time where he

584
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: was briefly leading the assault on the Capitol before Bailey.

585
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: We'll get to that here in a minute. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Um,

586
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, so like it, I think if you look

587
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: at the early days of it's it's it's very interesting

588
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: to see the ways that he floated these narratives and

589
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: he had these things in place, and the circumstances forced

590
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: him to change. Um. But there is one thing that

591
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: I will always be thankful for, and it is this

592
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: clip of Alex really just getting some deep insight from

593
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: a caller about ways that you can keep yourself safe

594
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: from COVID. My brother told me, I don't know where

595
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: he got this from. It thought of it. They said,

596
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: just remember, don't pop any bubble around because of the

597
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: air comes from China. Oh my god, another good point.

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00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: You know other good point, another good point that's you

599
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: know what's nice about that is it's I'm not sure

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00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: exactly how that's racist, but it is um. But it's

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00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: also like it's the kind that's it's so dumb that

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00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: you you can laugh at it, as opposed to like

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00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: a lot of the particularly with all of them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess it does feed into a lot of the

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00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: horrible anti Asian hate crimes and stuff. But I don't know,

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00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: I I just can't. I just can't take seriously a

607
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: guy who's so paranoid about China that he thinks the

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: bubble wrap is full of deadly Chinese air like his

609
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: brother told him about it. That is the kind of

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00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: and and there have to have been He doesn't say this,

611
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: but that conversation didn't happen without the aid of twenty

612
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: to fifty keystones, right like that that was like enough

613
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: a quant the bulk of a truck bed in keystone

614
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: light is like enough to give you a buzz. Yeah,

615
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: just just enough, just have to get you on the

616
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: back of the a t V where you and two

617
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: generations of your family die godless. I kind of felt

618
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: like he might have been an ice guy like to

619
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: take it up a notch. That's classier. Yea. So one

620
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: of the things that I thought about when we were

621
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: talking about doing this episode, uh and checking back in,

622
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: was I don't want to track too much of like

623
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Speaker 1: where things went after the kind of a little bit

624
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: of the immediacy, because then we would just be we've

625
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: kind to be here all day. Um. And so you know,

626
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of a picture of a bit of Alex's

627
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: coverage of the coronavirus um and in a lot of ways,

628
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: where it went is where everybody else went. True, So

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00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: you already know you already know where it went. You've

630
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: probably heard a lot of things you probably haven't heard

631
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: about the race specific bioweapons that those Yeah, god awesome.

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00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: So let's jump to January six. Then if we, uh,

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00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: you mentioned Alex briefly leading the charge. Yeah, I mean

634
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: leading is maybe a little bit strong of a word,

635
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: but it's certainly like at the head of a crowd

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00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: and then realizing that he was at the head of

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00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: a crowd that was about to commit crimes and panicking.

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Speaker 1: Would that be accurate? I think. I think when you

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Speaker 1: have like a bunch of people who really want to

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Speaker 1: overturn an election and you're chanting seventeen seventy six. Um,

641
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: it does often, am ladies and gentlemen. I've just realized

642
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: that I am going to be liable for whatever happens

643
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: to me after this, So we need to leave this

644
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: space entirely. This is a classic Yeah, I will be

645
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: in trouble and you guys will be fine, and that

646
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: is a problem. So what I wanted to start with

647
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: is I wanted to look at the lead up to

648
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: January six, UH and show some of these things that

649
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: were happening, Like Alex was deeply involved in the various

650
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: groups that would end up being at the Capitol, and

651
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: some of them were potentially engaged in seditious conspiracies to

652
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: stop the election from being certified. In November, Alex sent

653
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: Owen Troyer on a barn storming tour up the East coast,

654
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: stopping at a string of poorly attended stop the Steel rallies,

655
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: ultimately culminating in the original rally in d C, the

656
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: one that was prior to UH, the January six rally.

657
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: At that point, it was abundantly clear that Alex's position

658
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: was that the election had definitively been stolen by Biden,

659
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: and so stealing it back was an appropriate act. They

660
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: stole this rigor than Dallas in front of everybody. But hey,

661
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: if you catch somebody in your house with the safe,

662
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: or in your house with the computers, or in your

663
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: house with a silverware and the family heirlooms, you have

664
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: a right to take it back. Damn right you do.

665
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: And so they are panicking. They're saying, have a coup

666
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: against Trump. All over the news. They're saying he's insane,

667
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: he's crazy because he's not gonna let them have this

668
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: fifth ageptan coup against us. Separately, you've got my commitment

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Speaker 1: to burn the candle in both instair Ladies and Joan,

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Speaker 1: and we're fighting hard here. We need your financial support

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Speaker 1: That's Pivot has done. Robert goddamn, I mean, is this

675
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: what is his products and services? Listen, listen, you gotta

676
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: overthrow the country and you gotta buy my ship. And

677
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: it's not simple, it is. I gotta give the man credit.

678
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 1: There's not there's there's things he's good at as a broadcaster,

679
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: and that was that was a masterful ad pivot. He's

680
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Speaker 1: good at saying briefly yeah, shifting entirely over to sales.

681
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Speaker 1: He he's his powers for good. He could have moved

682
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Speaker 1: a lot of dick pills. That's true. He did, Yeah,

683
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Speaker 1: that's true. Um, the rob wh wife has given us

684
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Speaker 1: the we have a tough report, a tough report from

685
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Speaker 1: our whose wife. So you have the mentality there that

686
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: the election has stolen and that it's ethical to steal

687
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Speaker 1: it back, which I mean, you know, this is November,

688
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: so these ideas are kind of percolating a little bit.

689
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Speaker 1: That's I mean not. I mean that you hear that

690
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: basic logic all over the right today where they the

691
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Speaker 1: reason they accused the Left of having stolen the election

692
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: is that it's covered to steal the next one, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

693
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Speaker 1: And So at that time, though, when Alex was going

694
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Speaker 1: to the rally in d C, I think that he

695
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: expected it to go worse than it did. I kind

696
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: of suspect that he thought that original Stop the Steel

697
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: rally might have turned out like the January six rally

698
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: did um, and it ended up being kind of mild

699
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Speaker 1: although a couple of people did get stabbed, so I

700
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: mean it was it was ugly in the streets, but

701
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Speaker 1: it was not like a threat to the continuance of

702
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Speaker 1: the demotrat cratic traditions of the country. I guess it

703
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: was like a giant, ugly street fight in the sheets. Yeah. So,

704
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: but I think that Alex was thinking it was going

705
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: to be much huger, and so in the lead up

706
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: he was doing a lot of like real doom talk

707
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: like this, I've thought about doing this broadcast for twenty

708
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: six plus years. You always think about what could be

709
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Speaker 1: your last broadcast. I'm not saying this is my last broadcast,

710
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: but I need to just let you know I need

711
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: to explain something to you that I don't exaggerate any

712
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: of this. Okay, most of the time it's worse than

713
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, And this could be our last broadcast.

714
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: Next week could be. But the zone we're in right now,

715
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: the internet kill switch they've got, they can hit tele

716
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: communications as well, and we're in the prime zone for

717
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: them to assassinate Trump, set a new cough anything, anything, anything.

718
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: So a lot of that that fear talk is, you know,

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00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: surrounding that that original DC stopped the Steel rally that

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00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: didn't didn't culminate the way he was prepping. Yeah, it's um,

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Speaker 1: I mean he definitely. How many times would you say

722
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: he has said this may be my last show? So many?

723
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: Is it more than you have fingers and toes? Yes?

724
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Speaker 1: How many days are there in twenty years? Well, it's

725
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: not all of this. Well, let's see if I'm remembering,

726
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Speaker 1: if I'm remembering my education, which was entirely one song

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Speaker 1: from the movie or from the play rent. Uh, let's

728
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: see how many minutes minutes? Now, how do you turn

729
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: that into days? I don't know whatever. How do you

730
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: measure Alex's bullshit? Yeah? Do you solve a problem like Alex?

731
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Speaker 1: We got a we got a hook DJ dan Archy,

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Speaker 1: who's does uf theme song? Up? With my buddy prop

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Speaker 1: and and put together a cover of OFDS six hundred bullshit.

734
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: I can't count that high. So, you know, there's a

735
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Speaker 1: lot of excitement that got built off the original stop

736
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: to Steel d C rally, and there were these other

737
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: rallies that were going on at state capitals around the country,

738
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: but there was no real progress being made on overturning

739
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: the election, so it was necessary to do it. Again

740
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: in d C, but bigger, and thus plans for January

741
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: six started to form more solidly. Alex's involvement in the

742
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: events of that day are kind of less interesting to

743
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: me than the way he engaged with the lead up

744
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: to the rally, in the way that everything was covered

745
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: by his employees and himself in the lead up to

746
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: the rally ally, Alexander was a constant fixture on Alex's show,

747
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: promoting the Stop the Steel rallies and tying election denial

748
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: with extremist Christianity. Stuart Rhodes was a regular guest discussing

749
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: how Trump needed to declare an emergency so he could

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Speaker 1: bring in martial law and deputize the Oathkeepers as his

751
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: personal militia. More shockingly, perhaps, was that Matt Bracken, who's

752
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: a weirdo. He was discussing the actual January six rally

753
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: when he was hosting the fourth hour of Alex's show

754
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: on January and he said this that We're not going

755
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: to be saved by anybody above us. We're going to

756
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: only be saved by millions of Americans moving to Washington,

757
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: occupying the entire area, if if necessary, storming right into

758
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: the Capitol you know there, we know the rules of engagement.

759
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: If you have enough people, you can push down any

760
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: kind of offense or a wall. But if not enough

761
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: patriots show up, then we're just going to watch our

762
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: freedom go down the drain. Yeah, so that's that is

763
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Speaker 1: one of those things that sounds really bad in hindsight

764
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: when those things actually do happen. Yeah, they do. And

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Speaker 1: I mean he's also because what he's physically described, describing

766
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: it has shades of Jan's six. It also sounds a

767
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: lot like what happened in Canada earlier this year, you know,

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Speaker 1: like especially because what they didn't do, they didn't actually

769
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: shut down the city on j six. That is what

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00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: happened with like the caravan, where they're like, we're just

771
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna flood this area and make it impossible for like

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Speaker 1: life to exist normally in this major city. Well that's that.

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Speaker 1: That was part of the conversation that was happening around

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00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: January since in these in these communities, like like that

775
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: same day on December thirty one, Alex was taking calls

776
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: and what somebody called in was like, hey, can we

777
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: get all the people who have boats to block up

778
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Speaker 1: the Potomac? Can we can we seize the Potomac so

779
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: we can aid in our our occupation of dcs. Yeah,

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00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: and and one of the things about that blockade is, like,

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Speaker 1: I think it could be argued that if they had coherent,

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00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: achievable goals, they may have gotten them. You know, like,

783
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 1: if they it's there there, it was clearly an effective circumstance,

784
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Speaker 1: and if they could have negotiated their way into they

785
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: could have gotten something. But the fact that none of

786
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: them had any idea what exactly it was that they

787
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: were doing in the first place kind of really hampered

788
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: that kind of idea of negotiations. Yeah, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it makes sense because like you uh, like,

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00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: it's easy to get a bunch of motherfucker's who are

791
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: angry and want to feel and want to feel like

792
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: revolutionaries and are willing to like park their fucking trucks downtown,

793
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Speaker 1: especially if there's like clout in it and potentially raising

794
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Speaker 1: money and ship It's harder to get that same group

795
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Speaker 1: of motherfucker's to all agree on what should be done

796
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: because a significant portion of the people who are going

797
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: to come and camp out in a capital for weeks

798
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: to disrupt business aren't just gonna want like an into

799
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: mask mandates. They're gonna want to be allowed to mail

800
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: each other raw milk. Like you also want to be

801
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: allowed to marry my sixteen year old Wait what, there's

802
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: no money, Jordan. As someone raised in an evangelical Christian cole,

803
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, damn well it's legal to marry. Okay, fine,

804
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't know about Canada's rules alright. So so in

805
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: the days leading up to the six, Alex had guests

806
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: on his show, like his alleged constitutional lawyer friend Robert Barnes,

807
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: who was directly suggesting that Trump should just pretend to

808
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: also be president even though he had lost the election,

809
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Speaker 1: no matter what, because he's the rightful leader of the country,

810
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Speaker 1: so why not fake it. We'll talk about what Trump's

811
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: role should be if they effectively steal it. He's gotta

812
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: never concede and just be the president in Abstenia uh

813
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Speaker 1: in in exile, and just keep building the movement against him.

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Speaker 1: You agree with that, Oh, no doubt about it. And

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Speaker 1: it needs to be at the There's been too much

816
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: focus at the top. You always focuses on the top.

817
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: We need to focus. This needs to be a bottom

818
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Speaker 1: up revolution. If it's gonna work. So they just have

819
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Speaker 1: a second president. It's fun. It's like the dark because

820
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: they haven't for one thing. Having a first president works

821
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: out so good. You gotta have a kind of double

822
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: him up, have him fight. Yeah, that actually sounds kind

823
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: of funny. The problem, the problem that Lincoln had is

824
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't really willing to co govern with That was

825
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: the main issue, and that's why they had to start

826
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Speaker 1: the whole warld. We all know that the last season

827
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: of the Game of Thrones was disappointing. We don't want

828
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Speaker 1: to repeat of that. Okay, no, no, no, Game of Thrones.

829
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I I happened to like it when

830
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Speaker 1: everybody's unhappy. Which is why I liked the Game of

831
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Speaker 1: Thrones in the first place, is that it kept making

832
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: my friends sad. Um So I was really happy with

833
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: the ending because everybody was miserable. Fair enough. So on

834
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: January five, Alex was in d C and he ended

835
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: up giving a fiery speech at a rally there that

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Speaker 1: Mike sound a little bit unfortunate in hindsight, tomorrow it's

837
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Speaker 1: the right day. I don't quietly take the election fraud.

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00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: We don't quietly take the scam and believe there be

839
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Speaker 1: as we've seen the others, the system has had to

840
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: desperately engage in this gambit to maintain control. But this

841
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: will be there Waterloo, this will be their destruction. He

842
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: sounds like ship. What is he just like so much?

843
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's wasted. He sounds like yeah,

844
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: he sounds like smashed. Yeah, I think he was drunk

845
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: and probably his cardio isn't what you'd wanted to be.

846
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: And so you know, he can give a speech that's

847
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Speaker 1: kind of rousing, but at the same time, there's a

848
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: there's a staccato nature that's necessary because breaths. You know,

849
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Speaker 1: we don't talk about enough is the fact that he

850
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: used to be jacked. I talked about it all the time.

851
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: I didn't know I could disagree with the human being more.

852
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: He don't talk about any of that, Like there's it's

853
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: just there's some people that it's I'm never I never

854
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: used to be hot. I mean, you don't even get it, dude.

855
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: I've done a number of episodes about how hot Girbles was.

856
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: But that's that's the side of the point. No, It's

857
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: like there's a couple of people, for like Alex Jones,

858
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: just like thinking back to him being a bodybuilder is weird.

859
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: And then there's um fucking Keith David, who, like you know,

860
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: I've seen in a bunch of things, watching him in

861
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: community and being like that motherfucker beat the ship out

862
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: of rowdy Roddy Piper like I was. He was yoked,

863
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: like he wasn't just muscle e he was like wrestling jacked.

864
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: It's just weird. Keith David. Yeah, he's incredible. He's just

865
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: one of those people where every time I see him

866
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: in something now and I think, like that motherfucker was shredded. Yeah,

867
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: I hear that. Everybody gets really blown away when they

868
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: if they haven't seen those pictures of Alex as a

869
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: muscly young man. Yeah, and to think it's just underneath there.

870
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: He's somewhere in there, somewhere in all of that, underneath

871
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: that thick, thickneck. Yeah, except you can only get it

872
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: to it with a knife. He's amount of exercise that

873
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: couldn't get that. He has buried that Alex the same

874
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: way Steve Pochinik buried Aldo Morrow. So that night, January five,

875
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: they had some speeches and also Owen Shroyer, Alex's number

876
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: two second in command, his riker. Uh he filmed himself

877
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: hanging out with some proud boy associates and they were

878
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: burning a Black Lives Matter flag on the streets of

879
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: d C peacefully. This is why what's his name would

880
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: wind up doing like six months in prison, uh Rick Atario. Yeah,

881
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: before the most recent that he's went to prison. Back

882
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: the last time before this time that he went to prison,

883
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: it was for this, Yeah, because he he like stole

884
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: someone's Black Lives Matter better, which kind of applies. He

885
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: bought his that it it does, which is very funny.

886
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: Uh So on the actual day of the rally, Alex

887
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: and O and Troyer were in d C. So that

888
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: just left Harrison Smith as the on air talent in

889
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: quotes that was at INFO War, so he hosted all day.

890
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: If you watch his coverage, it's abundantly clear that he

891
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: was pomped for the possibility of a siege of the Capitol,

892
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: and when it did happen, he was basically, you know,

893
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: celebrating the home team doing doing their bids. Here he

894
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: is like in the lead up to what's going on

895
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: at the march. Alright, folks, So Donald Trump coming up next?

896
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: Alex Jones leading the march to Capitol. It's all happening, folks.

897
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: It's January six, and the revolution, the Second American Revolution

898
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: has begun. So yeah, it's a Second American Revolution. It's

899
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: going on. So let's let's just remind everybody that Cake

900
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: did not have anything to do with this particular clips

901
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: not involved in the overthrow of the United States governments.

902
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: Let's also let's also remember that while the January six

903
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: writers were certainly going for speed, they were not in

904
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: fact going the distance. That is true. They were not

905
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: all alone, No, they were not. I can't I cannot

906
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: find anybody who would really who would really be like

907
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: I am the biggest Cake fan, But I also cannot

908
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: find anybody who does not know the lyrics to at

909
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: least one Cake, sofic I mean, it would be the

910
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: funniest thing we could have done with this episode, is

911
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: that from that point we just for the next hour

912
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: and a half talk to each other in Cake lyrics.

913
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, I have got too much of a short

914
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: skirt to be talking about Cake. Yeah. So on air

915
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: that day on the sixth, Harrison Smith obviously was very

916
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: excited about, uh the what was going on, and he

917
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: decided to commission a symphony and seat it's another cake

918
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: so right, yes, yes, I suggested this and then realized

919
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: half of the cake songs, I know them covering other people.

920
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh you you were just gonna be like, I will

921
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: survive having I'm gonna be honest. Of the songs, I

922
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: think our cake songs are Actually they might be giants. Sure,

923
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: maybe a tonic song in the mix. There a couple

924
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: of them. So, but Harrison was very much celebrating, and

925
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: as the images started to come out of people rushing

926
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: the capitol, here was his take on that. But Americans

927
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: are live updates from Alex Jones more on the other side,

928
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: The capitol has fallen, the patriots are in control the patriots.

929
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: The capital has fallen. The Capitol has fallen. Yeah, there

930
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: was a deeply celebratory mood on on Harrison Smith's coverage

931
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: of the show. What's funny about that clip is that

932
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: in an alternate reality, that's what plays in like the

933
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: thirty second opening before it fades to like a bunch

934
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: of people in a bombed out city huddled around their rifles,

935
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: rating waiting for the government forces. Yeah, this is a

936
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: real situation where Harrison is trying to argue that sheep

937
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: go to heaven and go to hell. That's right, Yeah,

938
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: they shot their shot. You know, like that coverage is

939
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: exactly what you would expect someone to do if that

940
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: whole taking over the Capitol had succeeded. Yeah, no, no,

941
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: totally it does. It sounds like a broadcast from an alternate.

942
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: It's like like if if Orson Wells had written this,

943
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: you'd be like perfect. If it's like in Man in

944
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: the High Castle, you're getting a glimpse through the veil, yeah,

945
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: or if it's like shadow Stabbing, which is apparently a

946
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: cake song that I haven't heard. Did you just look up?

947
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what? That's literally what I

948
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: typed into Google because I'm as as this bit continues,

949
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm realizing I don't know as many cake songs as

950
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: I think I do. I it was really unprepared for

951
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: this bit to continue going. I mean, it's crazy to

952
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: me that you guys, because from what I can see,

953
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: both of you have very healthy breasts. Thank you. That's

954
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: a cake bit on my Italian leather So how many

955
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: do you know? What leather solf as one of the songs, Well,

956
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: you know Jordan's I'm not Sick of You, which is

957
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: apparently another cake song. I don't know that song. I

958
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: appreciate that that. I don't know enough cake songs. Fashion Eagle.

959
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: There's not the album Comfort Eagle Comfortash Fashion Nugget. Is

960
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: it sounds like that sounds like a cake song? Yeah, alright,

961
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: this bit must really has to at this point. You know,

962
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: you know what would be a good end to this bit, Robert,

963
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: if we actually if we went to an ad break.

964
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: Four Cake. Yeah, four cake. Cake is the primary sponsor

965
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: of our show. Um, so you know, uh, don't kill

966
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: a goat because they're already doomed to hell. I guess okay,

967
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: we're back, uh and and and better than ever. All right,

968
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's let's let's keep this. Let's keep this cakeless,

969
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: cakeless thing without cake. Yeah, continue sands cake so um.

970
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Before the break, we were hearing the Harrison Smith celebratory

971
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: coverage of the sixth as it was going down. But

972
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: once Alex was able to get to a phone, he

973
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: immediately changed the narrative and the celebration has not been

974
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: seen since from that point on. It was a false flag.

975
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: You better believe it was a damn false flag. The

976
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: globalless tricks, some que people and some Antifa people dressed

977
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: like Trump supporters to go into the capital so they

978
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: could start rounding up the patriots like Alex. As more

979
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: information came out, Alex had to adjust the narrative a little,

980
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: but as a whole, it's basically just the core of

981
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: his story and everything else has been rationalizations from that

982
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: point on, and his his narratives have gotten quite boring

983
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: for the most part. Nothing will live up to the

984
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: day of their capital has fallen? Is that's That's a

985
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: quote that really would go down and infamy had it happened.

986
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 1: It's like because if it had happened, Harrison Smith would

987
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: have been the first person to call it, and he

988
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: would have been the host on the pro Uh yeah, absolutely,

989
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: as separatist Fox News. It wasn't even like, hey, this

990
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: is a great move, you know, like it's just Harrison Smith. Yeah.

991
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were people at Fox News, but I'm

992
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: sure those people were tackled by lawyers before they So

993
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: it remains to be seen exactly how involved Alex was

994
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: intentionally or accidentally with the people who are making active

995
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: plans to do what they did on the six So

996
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: I think it's best to reserve judgment on that question.

997
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: But the overwhelming level of connections between bad actors who

998
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: are up to no good that day really seems suspicious.

999
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: But I think it's equally likely that Alex knew what

1000
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: they were up to and that he had no idea.

1001
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: It seems plausible to me that he would act exactly

1002
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: the same way regardless of whether he knew he was

1003
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: mixed up in a seditious conspiracy or not. He would

1004
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: just that he's kind of in seditious conspiracy mode against

1005
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: the government at all times, so he doesn't need to know.

1006
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: It's just it's just any time that a seditious conspiracy

1007
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: is happening, it is concurrent with Alex also saying that

1008
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: a substitious conspiracy should be happening. You know, yeah, it

1009
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: could be coincidence. Yeah, well, I mean it's always coincidence.

1010
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: So now Alex has Nick Fluentes on his channel, although

1011
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, his his band out video website. But I

1012
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: think it's actually not that important because Nick Fluentes has

1013
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: his own site. Um, but he still associates with Nick

1014
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: and Nick loves January six. He sounds like Harrison on

1015
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: January six. Now yeah, yeah to day Nick Flintess now

1016
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: a contributor to Russia Today, who had him on to

1017
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: talk about rusophobia. Really sense. Yeah, he's been on RT recently.

1018
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't that suggest that you're really desperate, doesn't

1019
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: like you you're getting on five year old asshole or whatever.

1020
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: If you're getting a twenty five year old Nazi, you're

1021
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: getting like you're getting like discount, you're getting like the

1022
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Kirkland brand, George Lincoln Rockwell to like come on and

1023
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: talk to you. Absolutely. I'm pretty sure they've interviewed Mike

1024
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: Adams in the past that mine has been on forever,

1025
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: Lionel has been on for Lionel's, Lionel's grandfather it in

1026
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: his royalty. I don't know, don't know if they have

1027
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: much standards over there in terms of who the Max

1028
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: Kaiser had a show. Um, so yeah, I think that

1029
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: the rest of alex is playing out of his January

1030
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: six conspiracies has been again the same way. It's sort

1031
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: of it tracks with a lot of the same stuff

1032
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: you see in the broader right wing media landscape, although

1033
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: he does have to do a little bit more gymnastics

1034
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: because of his close associations with people like Stuart Rhodes, Uh,

1035
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: you know when he gets arrested for this conspiracy and

1036
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: in the UM, you know, the charging fi David or

1037
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: the the indictment. There's so much information in there that

1038
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: Alex is like, I don't really wanna deal. I have

1039
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: to pretend this isn't here. I mean, I can't imagine

1040
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: what it would be like to have somebody who you've

1041
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: had as a guest on your show so many times

1042
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: be arrested and indicted for seditious conspiracy. That would be

1043
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: a little bit difficult to work around that. That would

1044
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: definitely the UH caused some problems if that were to happen.

1045
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: Like if one of you were to be arrested for

1046
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: seditious conspiracy, UM, I would I would be really I

1047
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: mean I would, honestly knowing you probably be proud but

1048
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: that and it would be George, Yes, absolutely, Yeah. Let's

1049
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you leaving up with the possibility that

1050
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: it could be one of us. I mean, yeah, I do.

1051
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: I do tend to assume you commit your crimes as

1052
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: a unit we were solo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was

1053
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: gonna make a comic book reference, but I know about

1054
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: as much about comic books as I do about Cake. Apparently,

1055
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: so's gonna Oh boy, it's a lot like in Sandman

1056
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: Issue twenty two. Whenever, no, I I got nothing, maybe

1057
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: I'll do the collector series. Sandman Issue is my favorite

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Speaker 1: cake song. So we want to jump ahead to the

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Speaker 1: Ukraine business. Yes, um so, more recently this has been

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Speaker 1: something that I think is I think we could all

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Speaker 1: agree as a major world event. It's it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I would say, like a giant land

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01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: war in Europe breaking out is moderately important, moderately important.

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Speaker 1: So earlier this year, on February eight, Alex was leading

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Speaker 1: the show and really getting excited about how Putin was

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01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: threatening nuclear war over Ukraine and uh, he insists that

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Speaker 1: it's because uh, they're attacking Russia, Ladies and gentlemen. This

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Speaker 1: is a maximum red alert. Vladimir Putin is officially threatened

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Speaker 1: from wide thermal nuclear war im Nature continues their invasion

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Speaker 1: Red alert Maximal art tune in Alice for the word wars,

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: the most banned network in the world. Um, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: they NATO is attacking and uh, Putin is gonna nuke people. Yeah, yeah,

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: and we're stoked about this. This is a man with

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Speaker 1: honesty as his guiding principle. Uh nothing but the greatest

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Speaker 1: of leadership. It's the most band network because they're the

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: most accurate. Absolutely. Uh so. Yeah, but there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a nuke, and Alex is actually kind of thinking we

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: deserve it. He was in one of those moods on

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Speaker 1: the on the age, so he's kind of gross. Most

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01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: of us will just get knocked down and maybe the

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01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: roof came in on you, but when you come outside,

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01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: you'll be breathing all that delicious radiation and of course

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: the power won't be coming back on for years if

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Speaker 1: you're lucky. Shore. That's where we are, and we're an

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01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: evil decadat Satanic Society, and I guess it's time to die.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well okay, yeah, yeah. So he does that

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01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: a bit. He every now and again gets into how

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: sinful we are and uh no, he deserved to die,

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01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, look, I don't do it for

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01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: religious reasons, but I will admit every now and then,

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: like when I'm i don't know, briefly stuck in line

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01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: at the grocery store, I'll think we do deserve to

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: just all nuclear hell fire, any any any time. You know,

1094
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: when it happens is whenever I'm ringing up a product

1095
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: at one of the auto checkout things and then it

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01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: like fucks up and I have to wait for someone

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01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: to come. That's when I'm like, just take us now,

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: just drop the bombs, end it all. I think having

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01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: those quiet moments is fine, But lashing out at your

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01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: audience emotionally like that, I think is because maybe a

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: little bit tackier, maybe a little ghost traffic. One of

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01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: the great things about being bipolars that you're so used

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01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: to suicidal thoughts that whenever they come for such like

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01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh my god, this guy in traffic,

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01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kill myself right now, You're like, that's

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Speaker 1: a good thought. I'm just gonna let that go. I'm

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01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: gonna smooth through it. You don't go on, say a

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01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: radio network, and well, if I want to die, everyone

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: has to die projected to yeah. Yeah. So ten days later,

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: in February eighteenth, Alex had sort of evolved this narrative

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01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: and now his the situation that he was reporting is

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01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: that Putin is just trying to stop Western forces that

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01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: are going door to door killing people. In the dun

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Speaker 1: Boss region. Russia has tried to not escalate thanks and

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01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: Putin has tried to play things down so that hardliners

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Speaker 1: don't engage in a coup against him, of course, but

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01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: he's gonnahead just come out and said what we already knew.

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01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: There's a massive Western offensive attacking Russian held areas of

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Speaker 1: eastern Ukraine, and they're engaged in genocide there, going house

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Speaker 1: to house, taking people out front their houses and killing them.

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Speaker 1: And this is all being done again as a provocation,

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01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: just like in the last duel. Whe they're splitting the

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Speaker 1: women and children's throats across the river to make them

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Speaker 1: come across to lose the bridge. And that's an historic

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01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: Tanki's actually the record books that happened. And they lost

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Speaker 1: the battle, they lost the war. We have to let

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: them attack these people, and these people have chosen this

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Speaker 1: ro out, and I'm gonna pray for him and support them.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna slip the children's throats but because that

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01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: will be too much. But um, that's the kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff they're engaged in. Also, I should point out Alex

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: saw the last duel the night before. Yeah, that does

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: sound like he just watched the last duel. Yeah, It's

1134
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: important to remember that any geopolitical event is very similar

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01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: to the last movie Alex watched in some way or

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01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: form he brought He brought it up like three times

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Speaker 1: on that episode. Well, you know, the last thing I

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01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: watched is uh that show with Josh Brolin where there's

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: a big hole, And this does have a lot in

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: common with that. Um, because I also would like to

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01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: throw Alex into a giant hole. Sure. Sure. The last

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Speaker 1: movie I saw was that shy La Bouf movie Holds. Yeah,

1143
01:07:54,160 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: another movie with a similar message. Good, that is what

1144
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: I took out of holes. Make a joke about seeing

1145
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: that band? Which band? What hold the band? So um.

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: On the twenty one to February, Alex played Putin's entire

1147
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: speech that he gave, which is the speech where he

1148
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: was laying out the rationale for eventually attacking Ukraine, and

1149
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: Alex interpret this incredibly incorrectly, thinking Putin was just saying

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01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: that he didn't want any trouble and he just wanted

1151
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: to do business with Ukraine. You just wanted to look,

1152
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: if you want to join the West, that's fine, that's fine,

1153
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: joined the West, but just do business with us. Come on,

1154
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: and you know I don't see how you see any

1155
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: fault in Putin what he's saying. I mean, it's all

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01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: historically true. Stalin's horrible, Lena's horrible. We're sorry what we

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01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: did to you. Blah blah blah. What do you want

1158
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: to I mean, coming, do you want to be under

1159
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: George sorrows or you want to be your own country?

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Speaker 1: We don't want you. If you want to do business

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01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: with you, just just please please don't go to war

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Speaker 1: with us. I mean, And here's somebody actually tell the

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01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: truth from that level is powerful because the truth is powerful,

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01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: and the truth lives and info wars. Wow, that one,

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: that one aged real good. It's just going to take

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01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: and then like three hours later the opposite happens, like, yeah,

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to take over Ukraine. Oh now he

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01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: is actively invading the capital if you and the sort

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01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: of irony of the end, like the truth lives it

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01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: inforce over like a sick guitar. That was a this

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01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: is your Life career retrospective. Would definitely try to avoid

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Speaker 1: adding that clip in there. It would it would probably

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01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: be seen as cruel. Yeah, not a good way to go.

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Speaker 1: As you brought up, Robert, it was almost immediate, like

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Speaker 1: very quickly, so quickly he gave that speech and within

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Speaker 1: hours he was shelling Kiev. Well, no, that was actually

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Speaker 1: the speech before. This is Alex's responding to the speech before. Yeah,

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01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: that's the twenty one though. So it was like a

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: day less than a day later, I believe, so, yes, yeah,

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: so on the Alex had been proven wrong. Obviously, the

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: Russia had invaded, and he had a number of really

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01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: really bad angles that he took on it. First, here's

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01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: here's Alex with a bad prediction. Putin's troops raise Russian

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01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: flag in Ukraine as z tanks which have come from

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 1: the east, and oh tanks that come from Belarush inner

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01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:42,480
Speaker 1: deeper into the nation, and there is no real resistance

1187
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,919
Speaker 1: because just like the US bought off the Iraqi leadership

1188
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: in gold for one, in gold for two ninety plus

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: percent of their generals, you see that Putin has already

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: done his work and has already paid off the Ukrainian military.

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: And that's why the Russians know they can roll right

1192
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: in and face almost no resistance, because that's how real

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01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: war is done, Alex. Real war is done by purchasing

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: the general's in advance of any sort of invasion. I

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01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: mean that it seems like that might have worked better

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: for you, for for Russia than what happened, which is

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: like half of the generals that they had in the

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Speaker 1: East have now been killed in fifty five days of fighting. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but again, alex is almost always right, He's he's It's

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01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: incredible how accurately he predicted the fact that Ukraine would

1201
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: not put up a fight. There's prediction, and that's also analysis,

1202
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not even just

1203
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: like looking into the future, it's like, this is the

1204
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: world man. He was so works. Yeah, and that's why

1205
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: thousands upon thousands of Russian mothers are getting letters that say,

1206
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: your kid is fine. Everything's with your son. Good times.

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Speaker 1: Alexander had another really bad prediction if you want to hear. Yes, here,

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01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: oh I want to hear. But that's why you're not

1209
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: seeing any really Ukrainian resistance because it was all for

1210
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: show and the comedian Hollywood president was a double agent

1211
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: the whole time. Oh yeah, that's what all the smart

1212
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: money is on. That's what all the experts I know,

1213
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: and I'm an expert myself, oh, expert fighting the war.

1214
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: He already won before he pulled the trigger. Cut to

1215
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: the capitals. Cut. Yeah, cut to the flagship of the

1216
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: Baltic of the Black Sea Fleet sinking with a piece

1217
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: of the True Cross on it. Yeah. Then, yeah, it's

1218
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: almost comically wrong. Like it's it's embarrassing, it's it's impressive.

1219
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: There's Yeah, there's a degree to which I'm kind of

1220
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: in awe of how incorrect it is. Most people can't

1221
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,919
Speaker 1: be that wrong about the statements they make, right, especially

1222
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: considering the irony being that if if one were to

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Speaker 1: argue that, uh, I mean, I I think I would

1224
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: argue that Zelenski's background as a media figure has done

1225
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: him more service and Ukraine more service than any sort

1226
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: of like uh a administrator we possibly do in this

1227
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Speaker 1: exact circumstances. Well, yeah, I mean, I think it. And

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Speaker 1: ironically so, like one of the things that Russia is

1229
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: famous for is like the I think it's called the

1230
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: Jurassimov doctrine, which is like kind of broadly speaking, what

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01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: they did in Georgia and then Ukraine, where like you

1232
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: have this hybrid mix of military forces on the ground

1233
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: but also propaganda and disinformation that's meant to like stir

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01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: up confusion and justification. Yeah, um, and at least disrupting it.

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01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: There's been this big idea with Russia that like, well,

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01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: a big part of our military effort anywhere is going

1237
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 1: to be the information war, which they just like shat

1238
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: their pants on as soon as they started shelling Kiev.

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01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: But because I think he does have such a background

1240
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: as a media figure, Zelinsky was not a particularly impressive

1241
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: president before the war started, but I think he has

1242
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: his his media training has made him an effective war

1243
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: leader because this is the first war where that's the

1244
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: most tactical value that a president of a country can

1245
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 1: have in this situation. Absolutely, you definitely don't want I mean, frankly,

1246
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: you don't really want any president's dictating strategy because that's

1247
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: not what presidents do. Yeah, exactly. He has had a

1248
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: battlefield impact, I think just because he's really competent at

1249
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: media stuff, because he's about he's a media guy. Yeah,

1250
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: you guess you guys are both gonna sound so foolish

1251
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: when it comes out that he is a double agent. Yes,

1252
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: that will that will tear us down. We will in retrospect,

1253
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: this will be our Harrison Smith moments with Alex's proven right.

1254
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: If that happens, I will accept my crow and I

1255
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 1: will eat it publicly. But I have one more clip

1256
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: of a bad prediction from Alex if you'd like to

1257
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: hear it. Oh, yes, absolutely. I mean, look at this

1258
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: Reuter's article that shot right now. Is that Bloomberg Putin

1259
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: calls on Ukrainian military to she's power to better negotiate

1260
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: with Russia because he knows it's a bunch of globalous

1261
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: factions in there and a bunch of former presidents jocking

1262
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: for controllers like listen, I'll negotiate with the military, which

1263
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: is a very smart move. I would expect this to

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01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: be over in forty eight hours. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: So that was on February Today, we're we're recording this

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Speaker 1: on April sixteen. Here's a little bit off, Yeah, slightly slightly.

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Speaker 1: So since that point, Alex has done exactly he always does,

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Speaker 1: and that is that he's become more or less a

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Speaker 1: stooge for whatever. Putin says. He plays defense for Russia.

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Speaker 1: It's just about every point, and he goes out of

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Speaker 1: his way to sow doubt and soft cell narratives that, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, things like atrocities that happened in Bucca were fake.

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Speaker 1: This is part of Alex's consistent playbook, and it's exactly

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Speaker 1: what he's done with all kinds of stories. Every time

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Speaker 1: there's something like related to Syria, he's it's the exact

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Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, And he's had on like major war crimes,

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Speaker 1: denialists and Syria, like partisan girl and stuff on his course. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's he's really tried hard to thread a needle

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Speaker 1: that you would you would kind of associate with somebody

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Speaker 1: who's not a Holocaust deniers, like, oh, no, no, I

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Speaker 1: know the Holocaust happened, but they're lying about how it happened.

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Speaker 1: They're lying about all this stuff. So, yes, you're a

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Speaker 1: Holocaust denier, but you're trying to act like you're you're

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Speaker 1: able to both be you know, no, no, they're all

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Speaker 1: lying to you. He hangs out with quite a few

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Speaker 1: holocausts exactly exactly he does. And also, this is something

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Speaker 1: that just came up. You guys brought up a fellow

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Speaker 1: in one of your most recent episodes in the past,

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Speaker 1: like two three that Alex was quoting a guy named

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Speaker 1: Scott Ritter who was a former UAN weapons inspector. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you know anything else about Scott Ritter because you

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Speaker 1: didn't say much else about him. I'm wondering because I

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Speaker 1: may get to tell you some interesting facts about Mr.

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Speaker 1: I may not know all that. So he was quoting

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Speaker 1: him because about stuff Ritter was saying about, like the

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Speaker 1: Bush administrations lies going into Iraq and whatnot about Iraq.

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Speaker 1: And it was specifically in context of a article about

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Speaker 1: the quote the fake uh British secret society within the police.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, right, right, Well, Scott Ritter today is like

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Speaker 1: a major war crimes denialist. He did a lot of

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Speaker 1: like there were no chemical weapons attacks in Syria. He's

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Speaker 1: a BUKA denialist. Um. He's regularly on Russia Today and

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Speaker 1: quoted by like the Gray Zone. And he has also

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Speaker 1: a convicted pedophile. H. He has been the subject of

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Speaker 1: two police sting operations because he keeps trying to fund

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Speaker 1: fifteen year old kids Jesus h yeah yeah, yeah, to

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Speaker 1: catch he would have gotten this guy on one. Um.

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Speaker 1: He is a real piece of shit, Scott read out.

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Speaker 1: That just goes to show you that, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: even like and when I don't overturn some rocks, there's

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Speaker 1: even our episodes could be longer. Yeah, yeah. Problem people

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Speaker 1: have said about our show is it's not dense enough.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of where I left off with

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Speaker 1: the clips about Ukraine. It's beautiful. Uh. You know some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that that's happened since has also been

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Speaker 1: the same kind of stuff that you see in the

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Speaker 1: right wing media. You know, you have the um the

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Speaker 1: bio Labs conspiracy. Alex was jumping on board with that,

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Speaker 1: and you know, basically every thread that gets pulled by

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Speaker 1: zero head Gateway Pundit is going to be mirrored and

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Speaker 1: echoed and exaggerated on Alex's show. Absolutely, he's become he's become.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've we've talked about him as this part

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Speaker 1: of the bullshit laundering machine where uh, you know, some

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Speaker 1: obscure nutbag throws out some nonsense and then that's picked

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Speaker 1: up by you know, zero Hedge or the like, and

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Speaker 1: they just water it down a little bit, and then

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Speaker 1: that's picked up by Alex. There was a time where

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Speaker 1: Alex would be the crazy weirdo who is relatively obscure

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Speaker 1: coming up with some bullshit, or it would be a

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Speaker 1: guest on info Wars or maybe or maybe it would

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Speaker 1: just be something of one of his people found on

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Speaker 1: a creepy message totally, totally and now it is it

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Speaker 1: is literally him. I mean, just board this lazily ambulance

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Speaker 1: chasing headlines. But I think, but I think one of

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Speaker 1: the things that makes the immediacy and one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons I focused on, like when these things are happening,

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Speaker 1: is that it does kind of demand you figure this out,

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Speaker 1: figure out what you're going to say about this, because

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Speaker 1: you're fucking live on air right now. You've got to

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Speaker 1: say that Lensky is a double a got to do something.

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Speaker 1: And I find that to be like, you know, necessity

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Speaker 1: is the mother of invention. When you've got to say

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Speaker 1: something right, it's uh, that's that's that's really interesting to me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean if for Alex, he can never live in

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Speaker 1: this space of like we'll find out or just wait

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Speaker 1: and see or this is this is developing. It is

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Speaker 1: always I know exactly what's happening today. It's part of

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Speaker 1: my current scheme that everything is happening around that I've

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Speaker 1: had quote unquote for twenty years. If everything is connected,

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Speaker 1: nothing can be a surprise exactly. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: you just change the narrative when you need to, because

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Speaker 1: you always need And then pretend you didn't have You've

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Speaker 1: never changed the narrative once. H Well, this has been

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Speaker 1: quite quite a tale. Um. I don't know about all

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Speaker 1: of you, but I feel well, I feel actually terrible.

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Speaker 1: Um that was hope. I'm significantly I mean I did,

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Speaker 1: broadly speaking, know a lot of this because I watched

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Speaker 1: listen to your show constantly. I do watch it. But

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Speaker 1: that's that's not something you put up online. I just

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Speaker 1: I'm talking. You can anybody's webcam. Were you also got

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Speaker 1: about the theories about Chinese specific bio that I had

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Speaker 1: not remembered. Um, good lord. Um, so yeah, this has

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Speaker 1: been a hoot. We're gonna come back uh later this

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Speaker 1: week and we're gonna talk about Alex's legal um adventures.

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Speaker 1: But first, Dan Jordan, you want to plug your plug doubles?

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Speaker 1: What do we plug? All right? I mean I've heard

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Speaker 1: of us on knowledge fight dot com. That's correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're also you can find us on Twitter. Yeah at

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Speaker 1: knowledge score Fight. And I go to bed Jordan's I'm

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Speaker 1: setting up an etcy store. He is, but I should

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Speaker 1: I like making buttons? You might. That's all. Well, this

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Speaker 1: has been quite a time. Um, go with christ via

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Speaker 1: condos behind The Bastards is a production of cool Zone Media.

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