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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody? Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Season with Peter Schrager. Fresh off

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Speaker 1: another entertaining and educational week of NFL football, I come

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Speaker 1: out of it and I just can't stop thinking about

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Speaker 1: just how dominant the.

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Speaker 2: Forty nine ers are.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco was one of those teams last year that

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Speaker 1: was very good. They went to the NFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 1: They lost to the Eagles after their quarterback got injured,

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Speaker 1: and they entered the off season. They made one big move.

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Speaker 1: They got Javon Hargrave. But the huge decision was to

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Speaker 1: go all in on Brock Party. They traded Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: about twenty cents on the dollar, and they had Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold and it wasn't even a competition. It was going

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Speaker 1: to be perty. I was hesitant. I wasn't sure, not

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Speaker 1: so much that Party didn't prove it last year. But

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Speaker 1: I was hesitant because he had a major elbow injury

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Speaker 1: They're like, can be fine for week one? All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's see August September predictions coming along, and I've got

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Speaker 1: to make a prediction for Good Morning Football. I've got

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Speaker 1: to pick an MVP, and I've got to pick my

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 2: My MVP.

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Speaker 1: I went with Christian McCaffrey, and there has not been

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Speaker 1: a running back to win MVP since twenty twelve. That

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Speaker 1: a major ACL injury. I thought McCaffrey first year in

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Speaker 1: him even more. With some of the best skill position

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Speaker 1: players in the world, it's going to be McCaffrey because Party,

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Speaker 1: well as good as Perty is, Perty just.

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Speaker 2: Can't be the guy. There's just no way he can't

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Speaker 2: be the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to be the one that we come

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Speaker 1: across each week and we say afterwards, yeah, it's guys, Aaron,

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Speaker 1: I think brock Perty might be the league this year. WHOA,

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Speaker 1: I'm serious. He doesn't make a mistake. He operates an

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Speaker 1: offense that, yes, is loaded with stars, but he operates

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Speaker 1: it with such precision it is almost like he's a robot.

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Speaker 1: And Kyle Shanahan is pushing all the buttons from the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: The one mistake he made he threw behind Ayuk and

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Speaker 1: it was crazy. Kyle Shanahan like started his press conference

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Speaker 1: talking about the one mistake he made was he missed

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Speaker 1: ba on the pass that he.

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Speaker 2: Had in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Every other one of these he connects. Think about the

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Speaker 1: other part of it too.

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Speaker 2: You got to be a leader. You're a second year guy.

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Speaker 1: You were obviously mister irrelevant last year, but you've got

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Speaker 1: some big personalities on that offense. You've got Deebo Samuel,

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Speaker 1: You've got George Kittle, You've got McCaffrey, You've got Ayyuk,

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Speaker 1: You've got Trent Williams at tackle. You have Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: one of the most demanding coaches in the league, and to.

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Speaker 2: A man, they love him.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just the skill, it's not just the

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Speaker 1: operation and execution it is it is what he brings

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Speaker 1: do the me first thing, which I think is appreciated.

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Speaker 1: He knows his place in the locker room and he

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Speaker 1: those guys on fantasy, you're not complaining you're happy there's

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Speaker 1: an equal share of the ball.

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Speaker 2: And I think he's the MVP right now.

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Speaker 1: I know everyone wants to talk about Tua and Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen and even Mike picked McCaffrey, but brock

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Speaker 1: Party is the most valuable player in the league because

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Speaker 1: of what he's doing at the switch and that's him

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, getting everyone involved and operating it

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Speaker 1: to one hundred percent efficiency rate, which leads to an

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Speaker 1: interesting exercise we did on Good Morning Football on Tuesday morning,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Van Kaufman, my lovely producer, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: sometimes we call it like break the segment so it's

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Speaker 1: not just chalk. And I said, okay, well, the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: Game, and that game wasn't with Kelsey, wasn't with Chris Jones.

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Speaker 1: And if and hypothetically were to say, for all the marbles,

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Speaker 1: it's Chiefs forty nine ers tomorrow, who you pick, and

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Speaker 1: of did some word logic and some I was making TV.

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Speaker 1: Then forty nine ers are the better team right now.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine ers Receemiro only everybody. But here was the task,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron, I almost wish I gave you some time

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Speaker 1: to prepare. The task was list the top five forty

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Speaker 3: The top five forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like we could do an offensive

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Speaker 1: The top five forty nine ers. So I want you

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Speaker 2: Rank them five through one.

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Speaker 1: Take a second, all right, Aaron revealing five through one,

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Speaker 1: say is that why Iowa? It might have been do

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Speaker 1: me a top five forty nine Ers players this season got.

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Speaker 3: This season so far through five games.

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Speaker 4: Number five, anchoring the left side of the line, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to go with Trent Williams. I think the we've

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Speaker 4: talked about positionless players and how important it is that

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Speaker 4: there are so many different weapons on offense.

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Speaker 4: To make sure that there's enough time and that that

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Speaker 4: party can react and get the ball to any number

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Speaker 4: of players who I have to hire. Number four, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna go with Deebo. And this one, I don't want

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Speaker 4: are two players here, Deebo and Ayuk, and I just

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Speaker 4: couldn't figure out who to pick. I think Deebo seem

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Speaker 4: Deebo like has these monster games when I is not there,

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Speaker 4: but when they're both there, I feel like, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm maybe a little biased where this

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Speaker 4: this weekend. You know, they make the play to Ayuk

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Speaker 4: and penalty in negates it and then they get it

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Speaker 4: to Debo and it's okay, cool, Like we didn't get one,

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Speaker 4: But number three, I have Purdy And maybe this is

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Speaker 3: So I'm influenced, but he is.

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Speaker 4: He's doing throws that Jimmy didn't do, and he he

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Speaker 4: and you're telling he's not just saying Okay, here's read

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to.

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Speaker 4: Go so far as to say he's the MVP, but

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Speaker 4: he's doing so much better. And I will admit, like

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Speaker 4: I remember early on in the year, I think we

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Speaker 4: you had guests forty nine ers and I almost made

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Speaker 4: a joke like, oh and Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, no, he will.

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Speaker 3: Not be starting for them too.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have Bosa because I can't just have offensive

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Speaker 3: Like, you can't.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we watched the Cowboys, who have amazing players

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Speaker 4: and it didn't matter. And number one, I have CMC

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Speaker 4: fourteen straight games with touchdowns. I mean he is incredible

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Speaker 4: and has I mean everyone has said this. He is

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Speaker 4: like hand in glove fit and yeah, CMC is my number.

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Speaker 1: One awesome list. There's no wrong answers. I have a

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Speaker 1: completely different list.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay.

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Speaker 1: First of all, before we even begin this, neither one

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Speaker 1: of our lists will have George Kittle on it. George

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Speaker 1: Kittle might be the best blocking tight end in football

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Speaker 1: and is the tone setter. Neither one of our lists

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Speaker 1: will have Eric Armstead in this He's one of the

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Speaker 1: will have Teleanoah Hufonga on this list, who is a

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Speaker 1: our lists will have Kyle Yuscheck on this list, who

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Speaker 1: is the best all around fullback in the NFL and

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Speaker 2: Neither one of our lists will have Dre Greenlaw.

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Speaker 1: On this list, maybe one of the best inside linebackers

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Speaker 2: My list is as follow us.

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Speaker 1: Number five, my pick for MVP less than five minutes ago,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying rock Perty is number five on my list.

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Speaker 1: I look around and I just think he is the

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Speaker 1: ultimate operator of this offense.

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Speaker 1: Upgrade from Trey Lance. He is an upgrade from Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: He is an upgrade from whatever they thought Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer. He's an upgrade from every single quarterback that

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Speaker 2: He's better than Nick Mallin's better.

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Speaker 1: All this is how a Kyle Shanahan offense can run

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Speaker 1: that jokingly, but like George Kittle called him a robot,

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Speaker 1: and anyone you talk to is like, it's imagine you

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Speaker 1: have someone that shares the same brain with Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: not in the top four for best players on that team.

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Speaker 1: Number four, I think is a guy who might win

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Fred Warner wasn't on your list.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fred Warner is unbelievable. You can go off on

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Speaker 1: Different like there's no better linebacker right now than Fred Warner.

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Speaker 1: The guy is unbelievable. He's all over the field. He

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Speaker 1: calls the defense. He's on the run plays, he's on

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Speaker 1: the passing plays. He intercepts passes, off tips. Go back

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Speaker 1: and watch that interception he had off the deflection. He's

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Speaker 1: the play caller. Fred Warner is my number four, number three.

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Speaker 1: And what do you mean by that? Is he the

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Speaker 1: an auction, I would be I would put a lot

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Speaker 1: of money down to have a dinner with Rob Gronkowski.

432
00:20:16,426 --> 00:20:20,066
Speaker 1: We go through Brady, we go through Belichick. He's empty

433
00:20:20,066 --> 00:20:21,626
Speaker 1: in the bag on what it was like coming out

434
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Speaker 1: of college and joining that Patriots team that had already

435
00:20:23,906 --> 00:20:26,426
Speaker 1: won championships and then they didn't win it first, and

436
00:20:26,426 --> 00:20:27,786
Speaker 1: then like with a quest to get him.

437
00:20:28,106 --> 00:20:30,426
Speaker 2: Then we go to Tampa. We're talking at all.

438
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Speaker 1: I am so in love with this person, and you know,

439
00:20:33,186 --> 00:20:34,826
Speaker 1: he has a podcast guest and he was sweet as

440
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Speaker 1: can be, but like he is a genuinely great heart

441
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Speaker 1: and a great dude. And we have our dinner and Gronk,

442
00:20:41,746 --> 00:20:44,666
Speaker 1: which I loved, ordered salmon and a steak for his dinner.

443
00:20:44,706 --> 00:20:48,946
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy's unbelievable, unbelievable. He had sleeves on,

444
00:20:49,346 --> 00:20:52,266
Speaker 1: he had pants on, he wore shoes that had his

445
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Speaker 1: toes covered. I was blown away at Gronk. We're having

446
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Speaker 1: the best time. Check comes, I pull up my credit card,

447
00:20:57,306 --> 00:21:00,146
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, and Gronk does as I would imagine,

448
00:21:00,226 --> 00:21:04,426
Speaker 1: you know, but the waiter says, your dinner has been

449
00:21:04,466 --> 00:21:05,586
Speaker 1: taken care.

450
00:21:05,386 --> 00:21:09,346
Speaker 2: Of by a channel at the bar, to which.

451
00:21:09,186 --> 00:21:12,906
Speaker 1: I immediately say, oh my god, that's awesome.

452
00:21:13,546 --> 00:21:17,306
Speaker 2: That is so cool that happens.

453
00:21:17,786 --> 00:21:23,626
Speaker 1: And Gronk's reaction is an audible sigh.

454
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Speaker 2: What are you?

455
00:21:26,026 --> 00:21:29,346
Speaker 1: He goes with that comes something He's like, the money

456
00:21:29,386 --> 00:21:31,506
Speaker 1: is not an it, like I could buy my own dinner.

457
00:21:32,106 --> 00:21:34,066
Speaker 1: But now we've got to go over to the bar,

458
00:21:34,346 --> 00:21:36,826
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to what that entails, and

459
00:21:36,866 --> 00:21:39,786
Speaker 1: that means I'm taking selfies and I'm filming birthday videos

460
00:21:39,786 --> 00:21:42,826
Speaker 1: for Clarence at home, and I'm also buying this guy

461
00:21:42,866 --> 00:21:45,386
Speaker 1: a shot and it's an extra thirty minutes and I'm like.

462
00:21:45,666 --> 00:21:48,106
Speaker 2: God, the burden of being Gronk, like this is real.

463
00:21:48,306 --> 00:21:51,346
Speaker 1: So we're wrapping up dinner and I'm like, do you

464
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Speaker 1: not want to even go buy the bar? Do you

465
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Speaker 1: want to just He's like, well, the bill will take

466
00:21:54,626 --> 00:21:56,506
Speaker 1: a care. So Gronk, to his credit, I guess I'll

467
00:21:56,506 --> 00:21:57,706
Speaker 1: give us out, like I don't think he'd mind me

468
00:21:57,746 --> 00:21:59,986
Speaker 1: saying this, Like he takes care of the waiter in

469
00:22:00,026 --> 00:22:01,706
Speaker 1: a very handsome way, and I'm like, all right.

470
00:22:01,586 --> 00:22:02,586
Speaker 2: That's class. I like that.

471
00:22:03,426 --> 00:22:05,466
Speaker 1: And as we're walking, I'm like, let's go buy the

472
00:22:05,466 --> 00:22:07,186
Speaker 1: bar and at least find out. We walk by the bar,

473
00:22:07,306 --> 00:22:10,946
Speaker 1: nobody raises their hand, nobody says a word. Instead, the

474
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Speaker 1: bartender points to a gentleman probably in his forties or

475
00:22:14,786 --> 00:22:16,826
Speaker 1: fifties at the end of the bar and just points

476
00:22:16,866 --> 00:22:19,666
Speaker 1: at him, and Gronk kind of comes over and he's like,

477
00:22:19,706 --> 00:22:21,306
Speaker 1: all right, he's ready to do the pictures and the

478
00:22:21,346 --> 00:22:25,346
Speaker 1: guy says, hey, thanks for the lifetime. I'm amazing memories.

479
00:22:25,746 --> 00:22:27,826
Speaker 1: I'm a Patriots fan. It's the least I can do.

480
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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

481
00:22:29,946 --> 00:22:34,426
Speaker 2: And that was the entire interaction, and Gronk was like, no,

482
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Speaker 2: thank you.

483
00:22:35,186 --> 00:22:37,546
Speaker 1: That was a really nice gesture. And then Gronk goes,

484
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Speaker 1: you want a picture or something. The guy's like, sure,

485
00:22:39,666 --> 00:22:42,066
Speaker 1: I'll take a picture with you. Takes a picture with

486
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Speaker 1: the guy. The guy's father was there with him, takes

487
00:22:44,106 --> 00:22:46,666
Speaker 1: a picture that with the father, and we were on

488
00:22:46,706 --> 00:22:50,666
Speaker 1: our way and I'm like, what a badass story, and

489
00:22:50,706 --> 00:22:53,026
Speaker 1: what a badass the guy at the bar is like

490
00:22:53,306 --> 00:22:57,266
Speaker 1: a cool gesture. So I assume like that is the

491
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Speaker 1: dream scenario if you're an athlete and having an interaction

492
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Speaker 1: with a fan.

493
00:23:01,066 --> 00:23:02,146
Speaker 2: We never got the guy's name.

494
00:23:02,466 --> 00:23:06,106
Speaker 1: We don't know if he's from Boston or Attenborough or

495
00:23:06,146 --> 00:23:09,106
Speaker 1: from you name it, you know, Fairfield, Connecticut. I have

496
00:23:09,146 --> 00:23:13,106
Speaker 1: no idea, but thanks for the lifetime of memories. It's

497
00:23:13,106 --> 00:23:15,106
Speaker 1: the least I can do, Aaron, It's not that the

498
00:23:15,186 --> 00:23:16,346
Speaker 1: coolest story you've heard.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I in my head, I

500
00:23:20,346 --> 00:23:22,426
Speaker 4: also kind of was as you're telling the story, I'm like,

501
00:23:22,506 --> 00:23:25,146
Speaker 4: uh oh, like someone paid for it that means something,

502
00:23:25,426 --> 00:23:28,026
Speaker 4: just like Gronk said, and instead, this is like a

503
00:23:28,026 --> 00:23:30,386
Speaker 4: Pixar movie. I'm like tearing up that. The guy was

504
00:23:30,426 --> 00:23:32,346
Speaker 4: just like, no, this is just like a thank you.

505
00:23:32,426 --> 00:23:35,426
Speaker 4: It was so fun to watch you, and like, that's amazing.

506
00:23:35,466 --> 00:23:38,986
Speaker 4: I love that great story. Right, more stories like that

507
00:23:39,106 --> 00:23:39,466
Speaker 4: to come.

508
00:23:39,546 --> 00:23:41,346
Speaker 1: If you listen to the season with Peter Schrager, you

509
00:23:41,386 --> 00:23:42,666
Speaker 1: get these amazing bangers.

510
00:23:42,706 --> 00:23:43,586
Speaker 2: I will also add this.

511
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Speaker 1: The following Sunday morning, I'm there for Fox NFL kickoff.

512
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Speaker 2: We have a great show.

513
00:23:49,426 --> 00:23:53,666
Speaker 1: It's me, it's Edelman, it's Carissa, it's it's Woodson, it's

514
00:23:53,746 --> 00:23:54,906
Speaker 1: Vic whatever.

515
00:23:54,946 --> 00:23:56,226
Speaker 2: It's great. We're having a blast.

516
00:23:56,266 --> 00:23:59,426
Speaker 1: It's it's an awesome show. We kick butt. The Fox

517
00:23:59,546 --> 00:24:01,866
Speaker 1: NFL Sunday Show is after that, and you know that's

518
00:24:01,866 --> 00:24:06,426
Speaker 1: the heavy hitters. It's Howie, it's Terry.

519
00:24:04,906 --> 00:24:07,346
Speaker 2: It's Strayhan, it's Glazy, it's Kurt.

520
00:24:08,146 --> 00:24:11,386
Speaker 1: But the baseball guys were there too because they're doing

521
00:24:11,386 --> 00:24:12,826
Speaker 1: their World Series coverage.

522
00:24:12,986 --> 00:24:16,946
Speaker 2: So because the Baseball Studio.

523
00:24:16,586 --> 00:24:20,426
Speaker 1: Show was on that night, you had Big Poppy, David Ortiz,

524
00:24:21,706 --> 00:24:25,826
Speaker 1: Alex Rodriguez, and Derek Jeter and usually I keep to myself,

525
00:24:25,866 --> 00:24:27,906
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they were like, why don't we get

526
00:24:27,946 --> 00:24:30,506
Speaker 1: all the groups together and take a photo? And as

527
00:24:30,506 --> 00:24:33,146
Speaker 1: we're waiting in the bullpen, no pun intended to take

528
00:24:33,146 --> 00:24:35,826
Speaker 1: a photo. They're just like, everyone, just go over there.

529
00:24:36,866 --> 00:24:38,746
Speaker 1: It's me and Edelman is talking about the show we

530
00:24:38,906 --> 00:24:42,826
Speaker 1: just had, and Jeter just slides in and I had

531
00:24:42,866 --> 00:24:45,786
Speaker 1: a five minute conversation with Julian Edelman with Derek Jeter,

532
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Speaker 1: and can I tell you he's cooler? It also he's

533
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Speaker 1: the man, so here I am. And I grew up

534
00:24:52,186 --> 00:24:56,146
Speaker 1: in New Jersey in the nineties, and you know, I

535
00:24:56,226 --> 00:24:59,586
Speaker 1: was in college in the early two thousands, like they

536
00:24:59,626 --> 00:25:02,066
Speaker 1: won three World Series and four years. I know exactly

537
00:25:02,066 --> 00:25:04,946
Speaker 1: where I was when Jeter hit the home run in November.

538
00:25:05,706 --> 00:25:07,866
Speaker 1: I knew exactly where I was when Jeter did the

539
00:25:07,866 --> 00:25:09,746
Speaker 1: backhanded flip against the Oakland A's.

540
00:25:09,946 --> 00:25:11,786
Speaker 2: Grew up a Yankee fan. Jeter was one of the

541
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Speaker 2: Core four. I didn't geek out to him.

542
00:25:13,826 --> 00:25:17,186
Speaker 1: I tried to play it pretty cool. But between Gronk

543
00:25:17,226 --> 00:25:18,186
Speaker 1: and Jeter, I flew home.

544
00:25:18,226 --> 00:25:19,026
Speaker 2: I was on cloud night.

545
00:25:19,066 --> 00:25:21,226
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, they say you don't want to meet

546
00:25:21,226 --> 00:25:24,106
Speaker 1: your heroes. Both those guys and Gronk's probably ten years younger.

547
00:25:24,106 --> 00:25:24,266
Speaker 5: Than me.

548
00:25:24,386 --> 00:25:28,306
Speaker 1: But both those guys just great dudes, and was really

549
00:25:28,306 --> 00:25:33,026
Speaker 1: excited to have those interactions. All right, now onto our guests.

550
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Speaker 1: I love football. I also have one week spot. I'm

551
00:25:39,386 --> 00:25:40,626
Speaker 1: not an Ex's and OS guy.

552
00:25:41,066 --> 00:25:42,106
Speaker 2: I try to be.

553
00:25:42,426 --> 00:25:44,506
Speaker 1: I like to think I am, but I didn't play

554
00:25:44,546 --> 00:25:48,746
Speaker 1: high school football. I didn't coach high school football, and

555
00:25:48,826 --> 00:25:52,666
Speaker 1: I certainly am not one of these tape grinders who

556
00:25:52,866 --> 00:25:54,946
Speaker 1: can do the All twenty two and sit in a

557
00:25:55,026 --> 00:25:58,306
Speaker 1: lab for twelve hours and break down you know why

558
00:25:58,346 --> 00:26:01,226
Speaker 1: this full back is better than the next. Now, Fortunately,

559
00:26:01,466 --> 00:26:04,466
Speaker 1: there are a lot of players in that game, and

560
00:26:04,506 --> 00:26:07,066
Speaker 1: there are a lot of really talented young play in

561
00:26:07,106 --> 00:26:09,906
Speaker 1: that game, guys on social media who crank out All

562
00:26:09,946 --> 00:26:13,666
Speaker 1: twenty two clips and break down why this offense is

563
00:26:13,706 --> 00:26:16,786
Speaker 1: more innovative this year than last, why this play caller

564
00:26:17,106 --> 00:26:23,026
Speaker 1: is truly an innovator, and why these players are so special.

565
00:26:23,666 --> 00:26:26,226
Speaker 1: You go on Twitter on a Monday morning after the

566
00:26:26,266 --> 00:26:28,506
Speaker 1: All twenty two is released, and there is just a

567
00:26:28,506 --> 00:26:31,946
Speaker 1: flurry of great clips and cutups, and there might be

568
00:26:32,946 --> 00:26:37,866
Speaker 1: no better operator of one of these feeds than Ted Win.

569
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Speaker 2: Who is Ted Win? I didn't know I had to

570
00:26:41,906 --> 00:26:44,626
Speaker 2: have him on my podcast. He's our guests this week.

571
00:26:48,346 --> 00:26:50,626
Speaker 1: So typically on this podcast we try to bring on

572
00:26:51,346 --> 00:26:55,706
Speaker 1: general managers. We bring on coaches, head coaches, offensive coordinators,

573
00:26:55,746 --> 00:26:59,066
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators. We bring on actors who are fans, we

574
00:26:59,146 --> 00:27:02,106
Speaker 1: bring on musicians who are fans, we bring on media folks.

575
00:27:02,146 --> 00:27:02,786
Speaker 2: And then every so.

576
00:27:02,826 --> 00:27:04,866
Speaker 1: Often I'm like, who I want to get to know

577
00:27:04,986 --> 00:27:06,866
Speaker 1: that that guy or that girl.

578
00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:08,466
Speaker 2: I follow them on social media.

579
00:27:08,506 --> 00:27:11,986
Speaker 1: They're really smart and I want to learn more about them.

580
00:27:12,066 --> 00:27:14,226
Speaker 1: And in this case, this is how this this week's

581
00:27:14,226 --> 00:27:16,786
Speaker 1: guest came to be on the season with Peter Schrager.

582
00:27:16,826 --> 00:27:19,746
Speaker 1: I've been following ted win stuff for a while. He

583
00:27:19,826 --> 00:27:22,266
Speaker 1: is a staff writer at the Athletic but in recent

584
00:27:23,146 --> 00:27:26,786
Speaker 1: years he starts doing these cutups on social media of

585
00:27:26,866 --> 00:27:29,306
Speaker 1: the best plays of the week and how things happen,

586
00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:32,626
Speaker 1: using All twenty two film, which the NFL releases after

587
00:27:32,666 --> 00:27:35,786
Speaker 1: the games on Sunday. I find his stuff incredibly educational,

588
00:27:35,786 --> 00:27:38,706
Speaker 1: and I'm also I marvel at how fast he can

589
00:27:38,706 --> 00:27:41,746
Speaker 1: turn these things around. And his passion and love for

590
00:27:41,906 --> 00:27:45,346
Speaker 1: cool offense and cool defense is obvious if you follow

591
00:27:45,426 --> 00:27:48,426
Speaker 1: him anywhere on social media or you read his stuff

592
00:27:48,466 --> 00:27:51,666
Speaker 1: in the Athletics and with no further ado the man himself,

593
00:27:51,706 --> 00:27:54,226
Speaker 1: Ted Winn, thank you for joining me on the show.

594
00:27:54,666 --> 00:27:55,946
Speaker 6: Oh prom thanks for having me on.

595
00:27:56,106 --> 00:27:58,946
Speaker 5: Longtime fan, you know, watched you on TV for a

596
00:27:58,946 --> 00:28:00,466
Speaker 5: long time, so it's kind of cool.

597
00:28:00,586 --> 00:28:02,026
Speaker 6: It's real being able to talk to you.

598
00:28:02,946 --> 00:28:05,706
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I do a segment on Good Morning Football

599
00:28:05,746 --> 00:28:08,426
Speaker 1: called cool Plays, Bro, And I would be lying if

600
00:28:08,466 --> 00:28:10,546
Speaker 1: I don't often go to your feed and say, okay,

601
00:28:10,586 --> 00:28:12,786
Speaker 1: does my stuff align with Ted's because a lot of

602
00:28:12,786 --> 00:28:16,786
Speaker 1: times I'm getting stuff from different teams and different viewers

603
00:28:16,786 --> 00:28:19,986
Speaker 1: on Twitter saying hey, there's a segment for the show.

604
00:28:20,026 --> 00:28:22,346
Speaker 1: It's all about the best play designs and the best

605
00:28:22,346 --> 00:28:23,466
Speaker 1: cool plays.

606
00:28:23,106 --> 00:28:24,586
Speaker 2: Like you got to include this one.

607
00:28:24,986 --> 00:28:26,666
Speaker 1: And then if I put my list together and I'm

608
00:28:26,666 --> 00:28:28,546
Speaker 1: missing something, a lot of times I'll say, well, what's

609
00:28:28,546 --> 00:28:31,546
Speaker 1: Ted Gott? How do you do it so rapidly? How

610
00:28:31,546 --> 00:28:33,506
Speaker 1: do you have that stuff up? Because I got to say,

611
00:28:33,506 --> 00:28:36,946
Speaker 1: we're recording this on a Tuesday morning and already you've

612
00:28:36,986 --> 00:28:41,546
Speaker 1: posted like forty clips from Sunday's games. Give me your

613
00:28:41,626 --> 00:28:44,346
Speaker 1: daily process and how you digest this film so quickly

614
00:28:44,386 --> 00:28:45,946
Speaker 1: and you're able to put it up on social media

615
00:28:45,986 --> 00:28:48,346
Speaker 1: to share it with your many viewers and listeners and followers.

616
00:28:48,746 --> 00:28:51,266
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, the process starts on Sunday. I

617
00:28:52,106 --> 00:28:54,706
Speaker 5: finally got Sunday ticket this year. Now I don't know

618
00:28:54,746 --> 00:28:57,106
Speaker 5: how I live without it. So I'm just like switching

619
00:28:57,266 --> 00:29:01,306
Speaker 5: furiously between game, you know, the big matchups every week

620
00:29:01,386 --> 00:29:04,946
Speaker 5: and or whatever, you know, whatever game has the most

621
00:29:04,986 --> 00:29:07,106
Speaker 5: fantasy players I have playing on it.

622
00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:09,706
Speaker 6: So on Sundays, I write.

623
00:29:09,546 --> 00:29:13,906
Speaker 5: A quick roundtable about just with my other writers on

624
00:29:13,946 --> 00:29:17,146
Speaker 5: the Athletic about what's going around going on around the league.

625
00:29:17,226 --> 00:29:19,226
Speaker 5: And then on Monday, when all twenty two comes out

626
00:29:19,226 --> 00:29:21,186
Speaker 5: in the morning, I'm just like, you know, just trying

627
00:29:21,186 --> 00:29:23,466
Speaker 5: to watch as much as I can, going through as

628
00:29:23,466 --> 00:29:25,346
Speaker 5: many games as I can, just so I could put

629
00:29:25,346 --> 00:29:28,346
Speaker 5: together an article that a column that I have out

630
00:29:28,426 --> 00:29:31,146
Speaker 5: every Tuesday morning about three coaching decisions that I like

631
00:29:31,786 --> 00:29:34,866
Speaker 5: or three coaching decisions that I didn't like. And then

632
00:29:35,026 --> 00:29:37,786
Speaker 5: Tuesday I'm watching a little bit more. And sometimes I'll

633
00:29:37,786 --> 00:29:41,226
Speaker 5: write another article that comes out a little later in

634
00:29:41,266 --> 00:29:44,186
Speaker 5: the week, like this last week, we me and Jordan

635
00:29:44,306 --> 00:29:48,706
Speaker 5: Rugrieg teamed up to write about Sean mcvay's next iteration

636
00:29:49,066 --> 00:29:52,186
Speaker 5: of his offense, which I thought was pretty interesting. And

637
00:29:52,226 --> 00:29:53,626
Speaker 5: the rest of the days I'm just trying to catch

638
00:29:53,666 --> 00:29:56,266
Speaker 5: up on the rest of the games and creating content

639
00:29:56,386 --> 00:29:57,626
Speaker 5: for social media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

641
00:29:57,986 --> 00:30:00,506
Speaker 1: So I grew up on the show Edge NFL Matchup

642
00:30:00,546 --> 00:30:03,506
Speaker 1: and that was on ESPN Film the NFL Films and

643
00:30:03,586 --> 00:30:07,586
Speaker 1: Mount Laurel. And for years it was original Jaworski, I think,

644
00:30:07,626 --> 00:30:09,746
Speaker 1: and then it was sal Pal was involved, and then

645
00:30:10,106 --> 00:30:12,746
Speaker 1: they went through an iteration with Matt Bowen was involved,

646
00:30:12,746 --> 00:30:15,866
Speaker 1: and like year after year it was sterling sharp. It

647
00:30:15,906 --> 00:30:17,706
Speaker 1: was all these guys and it was the only place

648
00:30:17,706 --> 00:30:21,106
Speaker 1: that they would do film breakdown and film study. And

649
00:30:21,146 --> 00:30:23,906
Speaker 1: I wasn't that guy. I didn't play high school football.

650
00:30:23,906 --> 00:30:26,346
Speaker 1: I didn't coach high school football, and yet I would devour it.

651
00:30:26,746 --> 00:30:28,906
Speaker 1: Merrill Hodge, all these guys, and they would say, well,

652
00:30:28,946 --> 00:30:31,586
Speaker 1: here's how this happened. And it was almost like a

653
00:30:31,666 --> 00:30:34,786
Speaker 1: biology class, like here here is how you get that

654
00:30:35,106 --> 00:30:37,466
Speaker 1: famous play that you love, or here's how this player

655
00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:41,746
Speaker 1: was so open yourself. Did you play high school football?

656
00:30:41,746 --> 00:30:44,146
Speaker 1: Did you coach high school football? Because the way you

657
00:30:44,226 --> 00:30:47,026
Speaker 1: speak and know all the terminology, I have to think

658
00:30:47,066 --> 00:30:49,426
Speaker 1: you are beyond just a fan of the game that

659
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Speaker 1: you actually live and breed the stuff too.

660
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

661
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Speaker 5: So I played I actually played quarterback. In high school,

662
00:30:55,346 --> 00:30:58,266
Speaker 5: by played quarterback in a triple option offense, so I

663
00:30:58,346 --> 00:31:00,906
Speaker 5: was basically another running back. We threw the ball maybe

664
00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:03,066
Speaker 5: five times of games. The volnaball is kind of like

665
00:31:03,066 --> 00:31:05,826
Speaker 5: a trick play for us. But you know, playing an

666
00:31:05,866 --> 00:31:09,146
Speaker 5: option you learn a lot about blocking angles, do you know?

667
00:31:09,546 --> 00:31:11,906
Speaker 5: You learn about how to set up the next play

668
00:31:12,346 --> 00:31:15,426
Speaker 5: and things like that. And after high school, I knew

669
00:31:15,466 --> 00:31:18,026
Speaker 5: I wasn't good enough to play college, but my coach

670
00:31:18,106 --> 00:31:20,706
Speaker 5: asked me to come back and help coach football.

671
00:31:20,746 --> 00:31:23,826
Speaker 6: So I coached high school football for a long time.

672
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Speaker 5: And I think that really helps me in explaining some

673
00:31:27,266 --> 00:31:30,586
Speaker 5: of these concepts because you know, like try explaining you know,

674
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Speaker 5: blocking rules for power to a you know, fifteen year

675
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Speaker 5: old freshman.

676
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Speaker 6: So I have to try to do it as simply

677
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Speaker 6: as possible.

678
00:31:36,986 --> 00:31:39,226
Speaker 5: And I think that's what people like for my articles

679
00:31:39,906 --> 00:31:42,946
Speaker 5: or work that I will try to really break down

680
00:31:42,986 --> 00:31:45,946
Speaker 5: these complex concepts. But I think I do it in

681
00:31:45,986 --> 00:31:47,866
Speaker 5: a way that's digestible for everyone.

682
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so let's go through it. So from you're

683
00:31:52,106 --> 00:31:54,066
Speaker 1: at where you're at, you see Davis? Is that where

684
00:31:54,106 --> 00:31:55,066
Speaker 1: you were in college?

685
00:31:55,386 --> 00:31:58,506
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went, I went to U See Davis, and

686
00:31:59,186 --> 00:32:00,226
Speaker 5: but I coached high school.

687
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Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, so you're at You See Davis. While

688
00:32:02,986 --> 00:32:04,746
Speaker 1: you're at You See Davis, you go and you're also

689
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Speaker 1: coaching a high school team.

690
00:32:06,066 --> 00:32:08,826
Speaker 5: Yes, so I'm also coaching high school team. And it

691
00:32:09,386 --> 00:32:12,106
Speaker 5: was you know, it was a long drive to get

692
00:32:12,106 --> 00:32:14,746
Speaker 5: to the team after classes in college.

693
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Speaker 6: So it was a lot of work.

694
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Speaker 5: But I love doing it, and you know, I got

695
00:32:18,346 --> 00:32:19,826
Speaker 5: to get to know some of the coaches at You

696
00:32:19,906 --> 00:32:22,386
Speaker 5: See Davis and they helped me out with learning a

697
00:32:22,426 --> 00:32:24,746
Speaker 5: little bit more of the game and scheming and that

698
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Speaker 5: kind of thing. And after Davis, I wanted to be

699
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Speaker 5: a high school teacher because I loved coaching football. So

700
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Speaker 5: I got my teaching credential. I went into coaching and

701
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Speaker 5: I loved it, but to be honest, I really did

702
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Speaker 5: not like the teaching aspects of it. You know, like

703
00:32:40,106 --> 00:32:43,066
Speaker 5: teaching pe is hard nowadays, like kids just don't want

704
00:32:43,066 --> 00:32:45,106
Speaker 5: to run sometimes, and it's just I just felt like

705
00:32:45,146 --> 00:32:48,946
Speaker 5: pulling teeth. And while I was coaching, I had a

706
00:32:48,946 --> 00:32:50,706
Speaker 5: blog I was doing for fun, and I was just

707
00:32:50,826 --> 00:32:54,746
Speaker 5: doing a blog about the Raiders. My friends encouraged me

708
00:32:54,786 --> 00:32:57,106
Speaker 5: to do it because they wanted to hear my thoughts

709
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Speaker 5: on it and the blog just kind of grew and grew,

710
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Speaker 5: and I got a lot more viewers than I thought

711
00:33:03,106 --> 00:33:06,426
Speaker 5: I would, and then you know, my follower count started

712
00:33:06,506 --> 00:33:10,786
Speaker 5: going up on Twitter. And actually, while I was coaching

713
00:33:10,946 --> 00:33:14,066
Speaker 5: and teaching, I found out I had stomach cancer. Actually,

714
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Speaker 5: so yeah, so I had to go get my stomach removed.

715
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Speaker 5: So I don't have a stomach believer or not. But

716
00:33:19,546 --> 00:33:22,746
Speaker 5: everything's fine. I'm like totally healthy now. But that really

717
00:33:22,826 --> 00:33:26,106
Speaker 5: kind of inspired me to pivot to a different career

718
00:33:26,786 --> 00:33:30,546
Speaker 5: and from I kind of retired from teaching and I

719
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Speaker 5: just went to sports journalism full time and I just

720
00:33:34,906 --> 00:33:37,226
Speaker 5: put everything into my blog and then the Athletic called

721
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Speaker 5: me one day.

722
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Speaker 6: And decided to hire me.

723
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Speaker 5: And I was on a contract job for about a

724
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Speaker 5: year just covering the Raiders of Niners, and when they

725
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Speaker 5: both didn't make the playoffs, I decided I was going

726
00:33:48,266 --> 00:33:50,626
Speaker 5: to write about some of the playoff teams, and that

727
00:33:50,746 --> 00:33:52,826
Speaker 5: year the Eagles played the Vikings, I wrote an article

728
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Speaker 5: about them, and one of the Vikings coaches actually contacted

729
00:33:56,426 --> 00:33:58,746
Speaker 5: the Athletic and said it was the most accurate articles

730
00:33:58,786 --> 00:34:01,906
Speaker 5: you ever read. And that got me the full time

731
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Speaker 5: job at the Athletic and I've been doing it ever since.

732
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Speaker 1: So you saw that Tory Smith sleeflicker from Nick Foles

733
00:34:07,266 --> 00:34:09,466
Speaker 1: and he said, okay, let me explain how that went

734
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Speaker 1: down and why Kyle Rudolph's games starting touchdown meant nothing

735
00:34:12,666 --> 00:34:15,906
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, I remember everything.

736
00:34:15,986 --> 00:34:19,586
Speaker 1: And dude, your story is inspiring. So you're the head

737
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Speaker 1: coach eventually at Mount Eden High School football, while you're

738
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Speaker 1: also a student trying to become a teacher, and while

739
00:34:27,706 --> 00:34:31,226
Speaker 1: that's also going on, you're writing a blog and doing

740
00:34:31,346 --> 00:34:33,146
Speaker 1: Raiders analysis for your blog.

741
00:34:33,386 --> 00:34:34,986
Speaker 2: For you do you understand?

742
00:34:35,026 --> 00:34:38,186
Speaker 1: Like I get emails and I get you know, texts,

743
00:34:38,186 --> 00:34:40,266
Speaker 1: and all, Hey, can you meet with my friend's son.

744
00:34:40,386 --> 00:34:44,466
Speaker 1: He he's a college junior at Syracuse or he's a

745
00:34:44,626 --> 00:34:45,946
Speaker 1: you know, he's a college freshman.

746
00:34:45,986 --> 00:34:47,626
Speaker 2: He wants to do what you do. Ted.

747
00:34:47,666 --> 00:34:52,186
Speaker 1: I hear your story still at undergrad then in grad school,

748
00:34:52,426 --> 00:34:54,106
Speaker 1: trying to get a full time job as a teacher,

749
00:34:54,146 --> 00:34:56,546
Speaker 1: but also on the side coaching high school football and

750
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Speaker 1: also doing a blog that is as inspiring as it

751
00:34:59,186 --> 00:35:00,706
Speaker 1: gets to saying, yeah, you know what, it's not going

752
00:35:00,786 --> 00:35:02,026
Speaker 1: to ever be handed to You have to go and

753
00:35:02,106 --> 00:35:04,826
Speaker 1: chase it, and eventually you get that call from the Athletic.

754
00:35:04,826 --> 00:35:07,066
Speaker 1: Who was that call from and how did they find you?

755
00:35:07,626 --> 00:35:09,226
Speaker 6: So it's an interesting story.

756
00:35:09,226 --> 00:35:12,946
Speaker 5: It was from Jimmy Durkin, who who's still an editor

757
00:35:13,426 --> 00:35:17,426
Speaker 5: at the Athletic, and Shield Capatia, who works at The

758
00:35:17,506 --> 00:35:20,306
Speaker 5: Ringer now, was one of the first hires at the Athletic,

759
00:35:20,386 --> 00:35:22,546
Speaker 5: and he's been following me. He was following me on

760
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Speaker 5: Twitter for a while at a time, and when he

761
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Speaker 5: got hired, he got asked who they think they should

762
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Speaker 5: hire and I was on his list list of people

763
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Speaker 5: that you know.

764
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Speaker 6: He thought that I.

765
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Speaker 1: Know Shield very well. Did you know him personally or

766
00:35:36,346 --> 00:35:37,506
Speaker 1: he was just a fan from Afar?

767
00:35:37,906 --> 00:35:39,906
Speaker 6: I know him at all that social media.

768
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Speaker 2: That's amazing to me.

769
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Speaker 5: He was just following me on Twitter. But we never talked.

770
00:35:44,466 --> 00:35:49,026
Speaker 5: And yeah, he gave me a really big recommendation with

771
00:35:49,146 --> 00:35:51,586
Speaker 5: the Athletic and me and Shield are good friends now,

772
00:35:51,626 --> 00:35:53,786
Speaker 5: but at the time we didn't say one word to

773
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Speaker 5: each other.

774
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Speaker 6: And he was one of the main reasons I got hired.

775
00:35:57,426 --> 00:35:59,946
Speaker 1: I love this story. Okay, so then you go from

776
00:35:59,986 --> 00:36:02,026
Speaker 1: someone who's got an interest and then you're now suddenly

777
00:36:02,066 --> 00:36:05,666
Speaker 1: maybe critiquing some of these teams and I would imagine

778
00:36:05,666 --> 00:36:08,546
Speaker 1: whether it's John Gruden who was running the offense at

779
00:36:08,546 --> 00:36:10,906
Speaker 1: the Raiders, or it was Kyle Shanahan who was doing

780
00:36:10,946 --> 00:36:13,386
Speaker 1: cool stuff with the Niners. They could say they don't

781
00:36:13,426 --> 00:36:15,346
Speaker 1: pay attention to anything, but when you've got someone who

782
00:36:15,426 --> 00:36:18,146
Speaker 1: knows their stuff and they're breaking down film, I'm sure

783
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Speaker 1: it made waves.

784
00:36:19,546 --> 00:36:20,866
Speaker 2: Did it ever get to the team level?

785
00:36:20,906 --> 00:36:22,346
Speaker 1: You would hear back from some of the teams that

786
00:36:22,386 --> 00:36:24,546
Speaker 1: maybe you were being a little critical of.

787
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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I you know, I don't.

788
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Speaker 5: I don't think I could go into too much of

789
00:36:31,666 --> 00:36:36,186
Speaker 5: my team interaction, but you know, I hear from agents.

790
00:36:36,906 --> 00:36:38,986
Speaker 5: I've gotten to know some coaches, which is, you know,

791
00:36:39,306 --> 00:36:43,706
Speaker 5: on a text by text basis, which is kind of cool.

792
00:36:43,906 --> 00:36:46,106
Speaker 5: You know, I never thought i'd be in that position.

793
00:36:46,546 --> 00:36:48,786
Speaker 5: You know, I kind of helped out some coaches that

794
00:36:48,826 --> 00:36:51,746
Speaker 5: had questions about other teams if they didn't have like

795
00:36:52,866 --> 00:36:55,186
Speaker 5: a lot of time to research something, you know, I

796
00:36:55,266 --> 00:36:55,866
Speaker 5: might help.

797
00:36:55,746 --> 00:36:57,346
Speaker 6: Out in that situation.

798
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Speaker 5: So it's kind of cool getting to know all these

799
00:37:00,466 --> 00:37:03,826
Speaker 5: coaches you know around the league. But yes, you know,

800
00:37:03,866 --> 00:37:06,026
Speaker 5: sometimes when you're a little too critical, sometimes you get

801
00:37:06,026 --> 00:37:08,146
Speaker 5: a little texts, you know, saying.

802
00:37:07,866 --> 00:37:10,186
Speaker 6: Like hey, you know, like I did this, yes, this

803
00:37:10,306 --> 00:37:11,226
Speaker 6: reason and that reason.

804
00:37:11,626 --> 00:37:15,706
Speaker 1: So I'm watching Mike McDaniel's offense against the Giants on Sunday.

805
00:37:15,706 --> 00:37:17,866
Speaker 1: I'm flying back from Los Angeles and the game is

806
00:37:18,266 --> 00:37:20,706
Speaker 1: on on my Sunday ticket, which amazingly works in the

807
00:37:20,746 --> 00:37:23,146
Speaker 1: air as well, which I think is the greatest commercial

808
00:37:23,186 --> 00:37:25,626
Speaker 1: for the thing. You could be twenty thousand feet up

809
00:37:25,626 --> 00:37:28,826
Speaker 1: and on go go Wi Fi and it works. And

810
00:37:29,026 --> 00:37:31,866
Speaker 1: out of the gates they're running such crazy thing and

811
00:37:31,946 --> 00:37:35,226
Speaker 1: it's motion and it's different personnel groups and it's a

812
00:37:35,266 --> 00:37:37,626
Speaker 1: fake reverse and then it's a handoff to him, but.

813
00:37:37,586 --> 00:37:38,466
Speaker 2: Then Waddle's open.

814
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Speaker 1: It's like, when you're watching the games in real time,

815
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Speaker 1: are you giddy as hell? Like? I cannot wait to

816
00:37:43,546 --> 00:37:46,466
Speaker 1: break this down? Are you taking notes? Are you earmarking?

817
00:37:46,506 --> 00:37:48,026
Speaker 2: Oh? How did that? I can't wait to see the film?

818
00:37:48,026 --> 00:37:51,546
Speaker 1: And then when the film does come out or is

819
00:37:51,546 --> 00:37:53,346
Speaker 1: that what you devoured? Or are you doing the broadcast

820
00:37:53,386 --> 00:37:54,986
Speaker 1: copy also? And you're like, I got to be the

821
00:37:54,986 --> 00:37:56,946
Speaker 1: first one to put this out on social media because

822
00:37:56,986 --> 00:37:59,426
Speaker 1: if I don't, Brian Pauldinger's on it, and if Brian

823
00:37:59,466 --> 00:38:01,506
Speaker 1: Baldinger's not on it, Ben sol Lax on it, and

824
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Speaker 1: if Ben Solax not on it, someone else is on it.

825
00:38:03,546 --> 00:38:05,266
Speaker 2: Like I can only imagine there's a very niche group

826
00:38:05,306 --> 00:38:05,986
Speaker 2: of you guys who.

827
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Speaker 1: Break it that on social media and it's devoured by

828
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Speaker 1: the fans. Is it a race to be the first

829
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Speaker 1: to say, hey, let me show you what I saw.

830
00:38:13,466 --> 00:38:16,146
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is to a certain point, because you know,

831
00:38:16,186 --> 00:38:18,226
Speaker 5: once somebody else puts out a play, then you know,

832
00:38:18,906 --> 00:38:21,866
Speaker 5: you only have so many takes on one play, right,

833
00:38:21,986 --> 00:38:24,786
Speaker 5: So it is a bit of a race to see,

834
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Speaker 5: you know, who could get.

835
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Speaker 6: It out first.

836
00:38:26,626 --> 00:38:28,946
Speaker 5: And sometimes you can see things from the TV copy,

837
00:38:29,666 --> 00:38:31,746
Speaker 5: but sometimes you can't because you know, sometimes it's so

838
00:38:31,826 --> 00:38:34,626
Speaker 5: zoomed into the quarterback you can't see what the secondary

839
00:38:34,746 --> 00:38:38,626
Speaker 5: is doing that you can't really have a real take

840
00:38:38,866 --> 00:38:42,986
Speaker 5: on the play design or how it unfolded until the

841
00:38:42,986 --> 00:38:44,626
Speaker 5: All twenty two comes out, and you know, the All

842
00:38:44,666 --> 00:38:47,026
Speaker 5: twenty two comes out early on Monday, and all the

843
00:38:47,106 --> 00:38:49,226
Speaker 5: film grinders are up early, you know, trying to.

844
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Speaker 6: Get those those clips out. So it is a bit

845
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Speaker 6: of a I mean, it didn't used to.

846
00:38:53,026 --> 00:38:54,866
Speaker 5: Be like that, you know, like a few years ago,

847
00:38:54,986 --> 00:38:58,106
Speaker 5: like me and like another guy was like, you know,

848
00:38:58,146 --> 00:39:00,546
Speaker 5: the only guys doing this, and now like there's a

849
00:39:00,586 --> 00:39:03,586
Speaker 5: lot of film analyists out there, and I think the

850
00:39:03,706 --> 00:39:06,226
Speaker 5: hunger for this type of content has grown as well.

851
00:39:07,106 --> 00:39:09,146
Speaker 1: What is your Twitter feed? If we were to follow

852
00:39:09,146 --> 00:39:11,066
Speaker 1: you on Twitter? So everyone at home who's listening to

853
00:39:11,106 --> 00:39:13,546
Speaker 1: this and is not necessarily familiar with your work, it's

854
00:39:13,546 --> 00:39:15,426
Speaker 1: all right, I'll give this a shot. What is the feed?

855
00:39:15,466 --> 00:39:16,426
Speaker 2: And spelled out?

856
00:39:16,706 --> 00:39:20,506
Speaker 6: It's FB underscore film analysis.

857
00:39:20,426 --> 00:39:24,546
Speaker 1: Easy as that football film analysis like that sounds pretty

858
00:39:24,546 --> 00:39:26,666
Speaker 1: good unless FB has some other meaning. I would assume

859
00:39:26,666 --> 00:39:29,826
Speaker 1: it's football, all right. So you're doing that in a

860
00:39:29,826 --> 00:39:33,146
Speaker 1: week to week basis, But you're also becoming sort of

861
00:39:33,146 --> 00:39:37,746
Speaker 1: a taste maker, as the clips you decide to share

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00:39:37,786 --> 00:39:40,506
Speaker 1: with your audience are sort of becoming a trend of

863
00:39:40,786 --> 00:39:43,666
Speaker 1: who is ted into and what is it. I figured

864
00:39:43,666 --> 00:39:45,066
Speaker 1: you and I would have some fun. I do my

865
00:39:45,146 --> 00:39:48,146
Speaker 1: segment on NFL Network, You do yours on athletic and

866
00:39:48,226 --> 00:39:50,546
Speaker 1: on socials. Let's have a little bit of a game

867
00:39:50,546 --> 00:39:52,506
Speaker 1: where we go back and forth and we kind of

868
00:39:52,506 --> 00:39:54,626
Speaker 1: share what we think as far as some of the

869
00:39:54,626 --> 00:39:57,346
Speaker 1: best offenses, best players, all that stuff. So let's go first,

870
00:39:57,746 --> 00:39:59,426
Speaker 1: Let's say let's do it a draft. If you will,

871
00:40:00,066 --> 00:40:03,986
Speaker 1: most entertaining offense in the NFL the one that you

872
00:40:04,026 --> 00:40:06,346
Speaker 1: are racing to see and that you just get giddy over.

873
00:40:06,586 --> 00:40:08,706
Speaker 1: Right now that you say, oh that is good, that

874
00:40:08,826 --> 00:40:11,466
Speaker 1: is good stuff. Which is the unit that you get

875
00:40:11,506 --> 00:40:12,466
Speaker 1: so excited about.

876
00:40:12,666 --> 00:40:14,586
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I didn't want to give you a generic

877
00:40:14,626 --> 00:40:20,026
Speaker 5: answer answering this, but I legitimately love watching the Indianapolis Colts.

878
00:40:20,506 --> 00:40:22,586
Speaker 1: Really Shane Stikeen too high.

879
00:40:22,666 --> 00:40:24,306
Speaker 2: Let's go talk about it all verts.

880
00:40:24,666 --> 00:40:29,666
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love watching offenses that don't have a wealth

881
00:40:29,666 --> 00:40:32,506
Speaker 5: of talent, but they maximize what they do have with

882
00:40:32,586 --> 00:40:35,426
Speaker 5: great coaching, and I feel like Shane Stikeen does an

883
00:40:35,426 --> 00:40:36,386
Speaker 5: amazing job of that.

884
00:40:36,626 --> 00:40:38,826
Speaker 6: I love watching Anthony Richardson play.

885
00:40:39,546 --> 00:40:42,226
Speaker 5: I love the pieces they have and they're so creative

886
00:40:42,306 --> 00:40:47,146
Speaker 5: with their formations, their run options, their RPOs, and the

887
00:40:47,146 --> 00:40:50,706
Speaker 5: way they maximize the receiving talent they have. They have

888
00:40:50,746 --> 00:40:53,346
Speaker 5: a decent offensive line, they don't have like an overpowering

889
00:40:53,386 --> 00:40:57,306
Speaker 5: offensive line, but just the way they are able to

890
00:40:57,346 --> 00:40:59,986
Speaker 5: even out the numbers with Anthony Richardson and his running.

891
00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:03,186
Speaker 5: Unfortunately he's hurt right now, but before he was hurt,

892
00:41:03,186 --> 00:41:07,106
Speaker 5: he was actually leading the league in explode the play rate,

893
00:41:07,386 --> 00:41:10,946
Speaker 5: so runs of twelve or more yards or passes of

894
00:41:10,946 --> 00:41:13,986
Speaker 5: more than twenty yards. And I also love that he's

895
00:41:13,986 --> 00:41:16,386
Speaker 5: bringing four verts back and four versus is exactly what

896
00:41:16,426 --> 00:41:20,106
Speaker 5: it sounds like. It's four receivers on four verticals. And

897
00:41:20,506 --> 00:41:22,746
Speaker 5: the play was going extinct for a little while because

898
00:41:22,826 --> 00:41:26,906
Speaker 5: all these defenses were playing too high and keeping two

899
00:41:26,906 --> 00:41:29,226
Speaker 5: safeties back. So it's hard to run four verts against

900
00:41:29,226 --> 00:41:32,706
Speaker 5: those type of defenses. But Shane Stiken, you know he's

901
00:41:32,706 --> 00:41:36,506
Speaker 5: calling a ton with Anthony Richardson. Obviously, you know teams

902
00:41:36,546 --> 00:41:38,586
Speaker 5: have to bring extra defender in the box to defend

903
00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:42,026
Speaker 5: their run game. But Richardson's one of bet Richardson's best

904
00:41:42,026 --> 00:41:44,826
Speaker 5: throw is that steam throw, and they're calling.

905
00:41:45,266 --> 00:41:48,986
Speaker 1: Over yeah, And that's he made the point. It's not

906
00:41:49,106 --> 00:41:52,826
Speaker 1: like he's got Moss and Welker and Dante Stalworth out there.

907
00:41:52,866 --> 00:41:57,586
Speaker 1: It's it's, you know, a combination of Pittman, Pierce and

908
00:41:57,706 --> 00:42:00,386
Speaker 1: Josh Downs. These are not Hall of Fame players by

909
00:42:00,386 --> 00:42:02,226
Speaker 1: any means, and yet he's making it. Now here's my

910
00:42:02,306 --> 00:42:05,026
Speaker 1: question with that they go to Minshew three different times

911
00:42:05,026 --> 00:42:07,426
Speaker 1: already does the because I don't, I don't follow it

912
00:42:07,466 --> 00:42:09,386
Speaker 1: like you do. As far as within the x's and o's,

913
00:42:09,666 --> 00:42:12,226
Speaker 1: does the offense drastically change? Is there a Minshew version

914
00:42:12,226 --> 00:42:14,306
Speaker 1: of the offense, or does Minshew run the same offense

915
00:42:14,306 --> 00:42:15,986
Speaker 1: that Richardson's more or less running.

916
00:42:16,786 --> 00:42:19,506
Speaker 5: There's definitely a Minshew version of the offense. You know,

917
00:42:19,506 --> 00:42:22,426
Speaker 5: obviously they are going to cut down on the run options.

918
00:42:22,466 --> 00:42:26,466
Speaker 5: They still could use their run pass option concepts a lot,

919
00:42:26,546 --> 00:42:28,866
Speaker 5: but you know, obviously you're not going to run a

920
00:42:28,866 --> 00:42:33,026
Speaker 5: ton of zone read or counterbash with Minshew back there,

921
00:42:33,066 --> 00:42:35,266
Speaker 5: and they're going to be a lot more pass orientated.

922
00:42:35,666 --> 00:42:38,906
Speaker 5: And he does a great job of adjusting to either quarterbacks.

923
00:42:38,946 --> 00:42:42,266
Speaker 5: So it's a really fun offense to watch and people forget.

924
00:42:42,346 --> 00:42:47,386
Speaker 5: Shane Stiken also was responsible for Justin Herbert's rookie year,

925
00:42:47,386 --> 00:42:49,986
Speaker 5: which was one of the greatest quarterback rookie years that

926
00:42:50,026 --> 00:42:53,346
Speaker 5: we've ever seen. Too, So he's worked with multiple types

927
00:42:53,386 --> 00:42:55,506
Speaker 5: of quarterbacks and he's gotten the most out of him.

928
00:42:55,586 --> 00:42:59,386
Speaker 5: So to me, he's one of the most underrated offensive

929
00:42:59,386 --> 00:43:01,386
Speaker 5: play callers and designers in the league.

930
00:43:01,786 --> 00:43:03,586
Speaker 1: Well now it's his you and AA. For a while there,

931
00:43:03,586 --> 00:43:06,386
Speaker 1: it was like, well, you know he's in San Dieg,

932
00:43:06,826 --> 00:43:09,866
Speaker 1: but that's also Anthony Lynn's an offensive coach, and you

933
00:43:09,866 --> 00:43:11,546
Speaker 1: don't know who's doing well. And then he's in Philly

934
00:43:11,586 --> 00:43:14,786
Speaker 1: and Sirianni's an offensive coach, so we're not sure it's

935
00:43:14,866 --> 00:43:17,226
Speaker 1: it's him now like this is there's no hey, yeah,

936
00:43:17,266 --> 00:43:18,466
Speaker 1: but it's him.

937
00:43:18,906 --> 00:43:20,026
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go McDaniel.

938
00:43:20,106 --> 00:43:21,586
Speaker 1: I know that San Francisco is doing a lot of

939
00:43:21,626 --> 00:43:24,106
Speaker 1: fun stuff, but like you tell me, does it seem

940
00:43:24,146 --> 00:43:26,346
Speaker 1: even different than last year that Mike has even up

941
00:43:26,346 --> 00:43:27,786
Speaker 1: to this game even more? It feels like I'm watching

942
00:43:27,826 --> 00:43:29,706
Speaker 1: a CFL offense with all the pre snap motion.

943
00:43:30,066 --> 00:43:30,306
Speaker 6: Yeah.

944
00:43:30,426 --> 00:43:32,546
Speaker 5: No, to me, he's the most creative play caller in

945
00:43:32,586 --> 00:43:35,946
Speaker 5: the league. Like, I love watching what he's doing. I

946
00:43:35,986 --> 00:43:38,626
Speaker 5: love that little short out motion that they're using now

947
00:43:38,986 --> 00:43:41,706
Speaker 5: because last year they were using fly motion to get

948
00:43:42,226 --> 00:43:45,506
Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill into full speed and running towards the.

949
00:43:45,426 --> 00:43:46,266
Speaker 6: Line of scrimmage.

950
00:43:46,306 --> 00:43:47,986
Speaker 5: Like you said, it's kind of like the CFL, right,

951
00:43:48,066 --> 00:43:51,026
Speaker 5: Like they're getting guys running full speed to line of scrimmage.

952
00:43:51,026 --> 00:43:53,226
Speaker 5: But when you're getting when you're running across the center,

953
00:43:53,266 --> 00:43:56,106
Speaker 5: the team's going to adjust and the defenses could bring

954
00:43:56,106 --> 00:43:58,266
Speaker 5: a safety that side. But now that they're doing it

955
00:43:58,306 --> 00:44:01,746
Speaker 5: on the same side, defenses can't adjust because they snapped

956
00:44:01,746 --> 00:44:04,426
Speaker 5: the ball and you know, one second and you have

957
00:44:04,466 --> 00:44:07,746
Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill running full speed at you. It's a really

958
00:44:07,786 --> 00:44:11,026
Speaker 5: tough thing to defend. And they're running all these cracked

959
00:44:11,026 --> 00:44:13,306
Speaker 5: toss plays. I've never seen an NFL offense run as

960
00:44:13,306 --> 00:44:15,986
Speaker 5: many tosses as they have, and they have one hundred

961
00:44:16,026 --> 00:44:18,906
Speaker 5: ways to run them too, you know. So it's it's

962
00:44:18,906 --> 00:44:20,946
Speaker 5: really fun to watch, and it's the most copied offense

963
00:44:20,986 --> 00:44:23,706
Speaker 5: around the league. Like if you're watching teams around the league,

964
00:44:23,706 --> 00:44:26,226
Speaker 5: now they're running that same motion. They're running all this

965
00:44:26,426 --> 00:44:28,706
Speaker 5: toss because of of what the Dolphins are doing.

966
00:44:29,906 --> 00:44:32,426
Speaker 1: Here's the next question. If you have one game and

967
00:44:32,426 --> 00:44:34,506
Speaker 1: you have two weeks to prepare, say it's a Super Bowl,

968
00:44:34,586 --> 00:44:37,266
Speaker 1: say it's just you know, week one, and you want

969
00:44:37,266 --> 00:44:40,746
Speaker 1: to get the most creative play caller or maybe the

970
00:44:40,746 --> 00:44:42,546
Speaker 1: most decisive play caller out there.

971
00:44:42,746 --> 00:44:43,466
Speaker 2: Who is your pick?

972
00:44:43,546 --> 00:44:45,106
Speaker 1: Who's who you going to war with, Who's going to

973
00:44:45,186 --> 00:44:46,746
Speaker 1: be the guy that's going to be downed up for you?

974
00:44:46,986 --> 00:44:48,466
Speaker 6: To me, it's got to be Mike McDaniel.

975
00:44:48,506 --> 00:44:51,666
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, like we talked about the motions

976
00:44:52,026 --> 00:44:54,546
Speaker 5: and the toss and I feel like they're taking all

977
00:44:54,546 --> 00:44:57,146
Speaker 5: those little wacky things that San Francisco used to do

978
00:44:57,986 --> 00:45:00,826
Speaker 5: sometimes and they've turned it into an entire offense, like

979
00:45:00,866 --> 00:45:03,706
Speaker 5: the way they use their personnel. They come out in

980
00:45:03,746 --> 00:45:06,186
Speaker 5: twenty one personnel, but they'll line up and empty ho

981
00:45:06,466 --> 00:45:09,466
Speaker 5: twenty one personnel and they'll line up on these spread

982
00:45:09,506 --> 00:45:11,506
Speaker 5: formations and then you never know.

983
00:45:11,426 --> 00:45:12,906
Speaker 6: Exactly who's gonna get the ball.

984
00:45:13,226 --> 00:45:15,266
Speaker 5: You know, the first play the game against the Giants,

985
00:45:15,266 --> 00:45:17,266
Speaker 5: they had they came out in thirty one personnel, so

986
00:45:17,306 --> 00:45:20,786
Speaker 5: that's three backs, one tight end, one receiver, and then

987
00:45:20,826 --> 00:45:23,026
Speaker 5: they motioned Jalen Waddle into the.

988
00:45:22,786 --> 00:45:24,826
Speaker 6: Backfield the reverse.

989
00:45:25,066 --> 00:45:27,106
Speaker 5: Yeah, they take a run to him and they reversed

990
00:45:27,106 --> 00:45:30,146
Speaker 5: it to Arcane for a huge game. So it's like

991
00:45:30,306 --> 00:45:31,906
Speaker 5: you never know who's gonna have the ball. But at

992
00:45:31,906 --> 00:45:34,706
Speaker 5: the end of the day, they're just running two back runs.

993
00:45:34,746 --> 00:45:37,226
Speaker 5: But they're doing it with all this window dressing and

994
00:45:37,306 --> 00:45:40,226
Speaker 5: world class speed. So it's really fun the way that

995
00:45:40,866 --> 00:45:43,186
Speaker 5: they're using their personnel. And I just think that's just

996
00:45:43,666 --> 00:45:47,546
Speaker 5: the Dolphin speed and McDaniels just like a marriage made

997
00:45:47,626 --> 00:45:47,986
Speaker 5: in heaven.

998
00:45:48,346 --> 00:45:50,186
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to San Francisco, and I know

999
00:45:50,266 --> 00:45:53,386
Speaker 1: that's like a variation of you almost feel like ones

1000
00:45:53,826 --> 00:45:55,866
Speaker 1: is they're like brothers on a branch because they work

1001
00:45:55,906 --> 00:45:59,226
Speaker 1: together for so long. But the positionless player the amount

1002
00:45:59,226 --> 00:46:02,146
Speaker 1: of times that you see Deebo Samuel lined up at

1003
00:46:02,226 --> 00:46:05,826
Speaker 1: running back, or you see Kyle Yustchek lined up at

1004
00:46:05,866 --> 00:46:08,986
Speaker 1: tight end, or you see Kittle in motion, like I

1005
00:46:09,026 --> 00:46:11,146
Speaker 1: just don't know how to defend it, and it's finally

1006
00:46:11,186 --> 00:46:13,226
Speaker 1: all coming together. And what the Niners are doing on

1007
00:46:13,266 --> 00:46:15,346
Speaker 1: offense this year. They've scored thirty points in every single

1008
00:46:15,466 --> 00:46:18,026
Speaker 1: NFL game they've played this season. They are winning by

1009
00:46:18,066 --> 00:46:21,946
Speaker 1: an average of twenty points per game over opponents. And

1010
00:46:21,946 --> 00:46:24,386
Speaker 1: if you're saying, well, that doesn't really blieve it, think

1011
00:46:24,426 --> 00:46:27,066
Speaker 1: about point spreads. Think about when you see the lines

1012
00:46:27,106 --> 00:46:29,506
Speaker 1: every week, you never see a twenty point point spread.

1013
00:46:29,546 --> 00:46:30,186
Speaker 2: You never see that.

1014
00:46:30,226 --> 00:46:32,106
Speaker 1: It's the largest point spread I think ever in a

1015
00:46:32,186 --> 00:46:34,906
Speaker 1: history of a game. They're winning by that against good

1016
00:46:35,026 --> 00:46:38,626
Speaker 1: NFL teams and good NFL offenses and defenses. They've done

1017
00:46:38,666 --> 00:46:40,826
Speaker 1: that to the Steelers, They've done that to the Cowboys.

1018
00:46:41,306 --> 00:46:43,506
Speaker 1: I just think he's totally in his bag right now

1019
00:46:43,586 --> 00:46:44,426
Speaker 1: and perty.

1020
00:46:44,186 --> 00:46:45,546
Speaker 2: Might be the perfect operator.

1021
00:46:45,546 --> 00:46:47,826
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on as someone who was in the Bay

1022
00:46:47,866 --> 00:46:51,146
Speaker 1: Area covering Kyle since he got there, Your thoughts on

1023
00:46:51,186 --> 00:46:52,786
Speaker 1: this version the twenty twenty three nine.

1024
00:46:52,746 --> 00:46:57,386
Speaker 5: Ers, Yeah, I mean it's Kyle is, you know, the originator,

1025
00:46:57,506 --> 00:47:01,946
Speaker 5: and I've loved watching his offenses, and like you said,

1026
00:47:01,986 --> 00:47:04,506
Speaker 5: they were one of the they were the first team

1027
00:47:04,506 --> 00:47:08,026
Speaker 5: to really do this positionless football thing. And then you

1028
00:47:08,106 --> 00:47:11,826
Speaker 5: add CMC into the mix, and he's just, you know,

1029
00:47:11,906 --> 00:47:14,746
Speaker 5: the perfect player to do it because he's so good

1030
00:47:14,746 --> 00:47:16,866
Speaker 5: as a receiver. They'll line him up, line him up

1031
00:47:16,906 --> 00:47:20,026
Speaker 5: on the outside, and they'll have him run slug os

1032
00:47:20,106 --> 00:47:22,466
Speaker 5: and double moves, and you know, you never.

1033
00:47:22,306 --> 00:47:23,786
Speaker 6: See that from a team.

1034
00:47:23,866 --> 00:47:26,186
Speaker 5: And you know, I think we hear a lot about

1035
00:47:26,346 --> 00:47:29,906
Speaker 5: coaches always talking about using this great running back, you know,

1036
00:47:29,986 --> 00:47:32,546
Speaker 5: like b John Robinson or something as a receiver or

1037
00:47:32,626 --> 00:47:35,706
Speaker 5: Jamier Gibbs as a receiver, and we almost never see

1038
00:47:35,706 --> 00:47:36,466
Speaker 5: it really.

1039
00:47:36,186 --> 00:47:37,066
Speaker 6: Come into fruition.

1040
00:47:37,266 --> 00:47:39,986
Speaker 5: Like we'll see it once in a while, but you know,

1041
00:47:40,626 --> 00:47:43,106
Speaker 5: you don't really see an offense really make it a

1042
00:47:43,186 --> 00:47:46,706
Speaker 5: huge part of their offense. But with CMC and his

1043
00:47:46,826 --> 00:47:48,826
Speaker 5: receiving skills, Kyle takes full.

1044
00:47:48,666 --> 00:47:49,226
Speaker 6: Advantage of it.

1045
00:47:49,226 --> 00:47:51,586
Speaker 5: They line up on the slot, they line him up outside,

1046
00:47:51,586 --> 00:47:54,066
Speaker 5: and it's a huge problem for defenses to try to

1047
00:47:54,066 --> 00:47:56,466
Speaker 5: match up with it. And now they have brock Perty

1048
00:47:56,506 --> 00:47:59,586
Speaker 5: who's just kind of the perfect operator point guard for

1049
00:47:59,666 --> 00:48:03,186
Speaker 5: this type of offense and it's extremely hard to stop.

1050
00:48:03,586 --> 00:48:06,146
Speaker 1: Okay, a couple before we move on to the defensive

1051
00:48:06,186 --> 00:48:09,946
Speaker 1: side the ball. A lot of fire Matt Canada stuff

1052
00:48:09,986 --> 00:48:12,706
Speaker 1: out there. I know you follow all this stuff and

1053
00:48:12,746 --> 00:48:16,266
Speaker 1: you're not looking to fire Matt Canada necessarily, But when

1054
00:48:16,306 --> 00:48:18,266
Speaker 1: you see an offense that just can't get going like

1055
00:48:18,426 --> 00:48:20,506
Speaker 1: his in Pittsburgh and then at the end Pickett does

1056
00:48:20,546 --> 00:48:23,186
Speaker 1: figure it out, do you blame the offensive coordinator? What

1057
00:48:23,226 --> 00:48:25,506
Speaker 1: do you see when you watch Pittsburgh's offense that is

1058
00:48:25,586 --> 00:48:28,386
Speaker 1: just sputtering and yet still finding a way to get w's.

1059
00:48:29,186 --> 00:48:29,746
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1060
00:48:29,746 --> 00:48:32,106
Speaker 5: To me, that offense is one of the offenses in

1061
00:48:32,146 --> 00:48:34,666
Speaker 5: the league that's underachieving. I feel like they should be

1062
00:48:34,746 --> 00:48:39,226
Speaker 5: more productive with the talent they have on that offense.

1063
00:48:39,346 --> 00:48:42,906
Speaker 5: And when I'm watching Matt Canada sometimes I do feel

1064
00:48:42,946 --> 00:48:47,986
Speaker 5: like his game plans aren't tailored specificating enough against defenses

1065
00:48:47,986 --> 00:48:50,306
Speaker 5: they're seeing. We're seeing too many of the same concepts

1066
00:48:50,346 --> 00:48:53,386
Speaker 5: over and over again. Like a Week one when they're

1067
00:48:53,586 --> 00:48:55,306
Speaker 5: going against the Nine Years, they run kind of this

1068
00:48:55,426 --> 00:49:00,066
Speaker 5: old school shallow cross concept that Canny Pickett actually, you know,

1069
00:49:00,186 --> 00:49:03,226
Speaker 5: really likes since college. And I understand that to put

1070
00:49:03,266 --> 00:49:05,866
Speaker 5: in concepts that your quarterbacks. Like, but then when you're

1071
00:49:05,906 --> 00:49:09,266
Speaker 5: running that against Fred Warner, which is you know, that's

1072
00:49:09,346 --> 00:49:13,066
Speaker 5: the the mic linebackers who's designed to.

1073
00:49:12,506 --> 00:49:15,026
Speaker 6: Stress, that's not a guy you want to be picking on.

1074
00:49:15,106 --> 00:49:17,546
Speaker 5: And they ran eight times against the Niners, and each

1075
00:49:17,626 --> 00:49:19,186
Speaker 5: time was a disastrous result.

1076
00:49:19,266 --> 00:49:20,986
Speaker 1: So I like that result.

1077
00:49:21,186 --> 00:49:24,626
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I don't have the exact stats in front

1078
00:49:24,626 --> 00:49:26,106
Speaker 5: of me, but the eight times they ran out, I

1079
00:49:26,106 --> 00:49:28,226
Speaker 5: think they only completed once. He was sacked twice and

1080
00:49:28,306 --> 00:49:32,066
Speaker 5: intercepted once and almost intercepted another time. So when you

1081
00:49:32,106 --> 00:49:33,906
Speaker 5: see things like that, it's just, you know, it's hard

1082
00:49:33,986 --> 00:49:38,906
Speaker 5: not to criticize the offensive coordinator. So yeah, I'm not

1083
00:49:38,946 --> 00:49:40,666
Speaker 5: a huge fan of Matt Canada's offense.

1084
00:49:41,106 --> 00:49:45,266
Speaker 1: Okay, So Matt Canada is down another offense that's being

1085
00:49:45,346 --> 00:49:46,946
Speaker 1: questioned right now, and it's a lot of its skill

1086
00:49:46,986 --> 00:49:48,786
Speaker 1: position as a team that we saw on Monday night

1087
00:49:49,506 --> 00:49:51,386
Speaker 1: the Packers, they don't seem to be able to get

1088
00:49:51,386 --> 00:49:54,026
Speaker 1: anything going either. Your thoughts on Green Bays offense and

1089
00:49:54,066 --> 00:49:55,826
Speaker 1: is that a Matt Lafleur thing or is that just

1090
00:49:55,906 --> 00:49:58,146
Speaker 1: there's not enough horses to go and do what they

1091
00:49:58,146 --> 00:49:58,546
Speaker 1: gotta do.

1092
00:49:58,906 --> 00:50:01,666
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a fan of Matt Lafleur's play calling and

1093
00:50:01,706 --> 00:50:04,506
Speaker 5: play designs, and I think right now Jordan Love is

1094
00:50:04,546 --> 00:50:07,626
Speaker 5: going through some growing pains. They have a lot of offensive

1095
00:50:07,386 --> 00:50:09,746
Speaker 5: line issues with guys getting hurt and going in and

1096
00:50:09,786 --> 00:50:13,666
Speaker 5: out of the lineup. And you know, Christiana Watson's just

1097
00:50:13,706 --> 00:50:17,066
Speaker 5: coming back right now, but Jordan Love is, you know,

1098
00:50:17,106 --> 00:50:19,226
Speaker 5: he's definitely growing through some growing pains.

1099
00:50:18,746 --> 00:50:21,506
Speaker 6: He's missing guys, he's not seeing them.

1100
00:50:21,586 --> 00:50:26,666
Speaker 5: Like that last play against the last interception against Raiders, Watson,

1101
00:50:27,186 --> 00:50:29,186
Speaker 5: you know, he was laid on it. He tried to

1102
00:50:29,226 --> 00:50:31,546
Speaker 5: scramble and then he tried to throw. Heave it up

1103
00:50:31,586 --> 00:50:34,506
Speaker 5: and is underthrown. But that should have been a game

1104
00:50:34,546 --> 00:50:38,306
Speaker 5: winning touchdown. So I don't blame before for the Packers

1105
00:50:38,466 --> 00:50:41,546
Speaker 5: offensive struggles. I like him as a play designer, play caller,

1106
00:50:42,106 --> 00:50:44,346
Speaker 5: but right now they're just going through some growing pains

1107
00:50:44,346 --> 00:50:47,026
Speaker 5: with their quarterback and getting some guys back from injury.

1108
00:50:47,306 --> 00:50:50,026
Speaker 1: My last one, you probably watched Sean Payton for twenty

1109
00:50:50,146 --> 00:50:52,226
Speaker 1: years and marveled at what he was doing in New Orleans.

1110
00:50:52,226 --> 00:50:54,346
Speaker 1: The offense hasn't been terrible in Denver, but it certainly

1111
00:50:54,386 --> 00:50:57,826
Speaker 1: isn't a Sean Payton offense. Your thoughts on what's going

1112
00:50:57,866 --> 00:50:59,986
Speaker 1: on up in Denver and Sean Payton and Russell Wilson.

1113
00:51:00,106 --> 00:51:00,666
Speaker 2: Five weeks in.

1114
00:51:01,706 --> 00:51:04,346
Speaker 5: I will say that Russell Wilson is playing a lot

1115
00:51:04,426 --> 00:51:07,466
Speaker 5: better than I thought he would be just based on

1116
00:51:07,506 --> 00:51:10,706
Speaker 5: watching him last year. So I think Peyton was brought

1117
00:51:10,746 --> 00:51:13,306
Speaker 5: in to fix that offense, and I think he.

1118
00:51:13,346 --> 00:51:16,066
Speaker 6: Has done that. That offense has fixed. I don't think.

1119
00:51:16,586 --> 00:51:18,466
Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna see Russell Wilson play to

1120
00:51:18,506 --> 00:51:21,386
Speaker 5: the level that he did when he was in Seattle.

1121
00:51:21,426 --> 00:51:23,226
Speaker 5: I think this is probably the best that they could

1122
00:51:23,266 --> 00:51:24,666
Speaker 5: get out of him right now.

1123
00:51:25,066 --> 00:51:25,746
Speaker 6: He's probably not.

1124
00:51:25,706 --> 00:51:28,186
Speaker 5: Going to live up to that contract he has, but

1125
00:51:28,586 --> 00:51:31,906
Speaker 5: the offense they've built around him works. It's just that

1126
00:51:32,306 --> 00:51:35,226
Speaker 5: their defense went from a top ten unit last year

1127
00:51:35,346 --> 00:51:38,906
Speaker 5: to by far the worst defense in the league this year,

1128
00:51:38,946 --> 00:51:41,586
Speaker 5: and they're having to score, you know, thirty forty points

1129
00:51:41,586 --> 00:51:45,426
Speaker 5: to keep up with the other teams. So offensively, Sean

1130
00:51:45,466 --> 00:51:48,866
Speaker 5: Payton's done what he needs to do, but defensively is

1131
00:51:48,946 --> 00:51:50,546
Speaker 5: just just a total mess right now.

1132
00:51:54,386 --> 00:51:56,266
Speaker 2: All right, let's do some more picks here, all right.

1133
00:51:56,306 --> 00:51:58,666
Speaker 1: So we talk about offense all the time, and that's

1134
00:51:58,666 --> 00:52:01,306
Speaker 1: what pays the Bills. On Good Morning Football, NFL Network,

1135
00:52:01,306 --> 00:52:03,746
Speaker 1: we're talking about the quarterbacks, but gosh, you do a

1136
00:52:03,786 --> 00:52:06,146
Speaker 1: lot of good film breakdown on defense too. The most

1137
00:52:06,226 --> 00:52:10,106
Speaker 1: un under appreciated defensive player in the NFL is who

1138
00:52:10,266 --> 00:52:10,666
Speaker 1: Ted Win.

1139
00:52:11,666 --> 00:52:13,506
Speaker 6: I have to say Max Crosby.

1140
00:52:13,546 --> 00:52:16,266
Speaker 5: And I know Crosby had a big game on the

1141
00:52:16,346 --> 00:52:19,826
Speaker 5: national stage last yesterday, so I think people appreciate him

1142
00:52:19,826 --> 00:52:22,026
Speaker 5: a little bit more after that. But to me, Max

1143
00:52:22,106 --> 00:52:24,346
Speaker 5: Crosby a guy that should be in a running for

1144
00:52:24,586 --> 00:52:27,786
Speaker 5: Defensive Player a year. I believe he's second right now.

1145
00:52:27,826 --> 00:52:31,906
Speaker 5: In pressures, he's one of the best run stopping defensive

1146
00:52:32,026 --> 00:52:33,906
Speaker 5: ends in the league. I think that's one aspect of

1147
00:52:33,946 --> 00:52:36,826
Speaker 5: his game that doesn't get talked about enough. He's able

1148
00:52:36,866 --> 00:52:40,306
Speaker 5: to just recognize whatever plays offenses are running at him

1149
00:52:40,306 --> 00:52:43,066
Speaker 5: because of his film study, and he's just relentless.

1150
00:52:43,066 --> 00:52:43,786
Speaker 6: He has a motor.

1151
00:52:44,746 --> 00:52:48,146
Speaker 5: So to me, you know, I think Crosby should be

1152
00:52:48,186 --> 00:52:50,386
Speaker 5: a runner up in the Defensive Player of the Year race.

1153
00:52:50,466 --> 00:52:52,426
Speaker 5: And that's why I want to bring his name up here.

1154
00:52:52,986 --> 00:52:54,986
Speaker 1: It's great, you know, there's such a long list of

1155
00:52:55,026 --> 00:52:56,626
Speaker 1: these guys. I'm gonna go with the guy who's local

1156
00:52:56,706 --> 00:52:59,146
Speaker 1: in my backyard and he's getting a lot of love.

1157
00:52:59,186 --> 00:53:01,546
Speaker 1: And Jeff Olbrich, the defensive coordinator, said he's the best

1158
00:53:01,546 --> 00:53:03,906
Speaker 1: linebacker in football and Oldrick he's to coach Fred Warner.

1159
00:53:04,106 --> 00:53:07,106
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams for the Jets is freaking awesome. Have you

1160
00:53:07,106 --> 00:53:08,746
Speaker 1: had a chance to watch what Quincy's been doing on

1161
00:53:08,746 --> 00:53:09,706
Speaker 1: a week to week basis?

1162
00:53:10,666 --> 00:53:12,426
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's you know, he's one of the

1163
00:53:12,426 --> 00:53:15,386
Speaker 5: most physical linebackers in the league, and that's it's fun

1164
00:53:15,386 --> 00:53:16,946
Speaker 5: to watch. You know, a lot of these guys are

1165
00:53:16,986 --> 00:53:20,026
Speaker 5: coverage linebackers now, but but Quincy is the.

1166
00:53:20,026 --> 00:53:22,586
Speaker 6: Guy that will blow up blocks and you know, a

1167
00:53:22,866 --> 00:53:24,106
Speaker 6: hit guy. So that's a great pick.

1168
00:53:25,266 --> 00:53:28,266
Speaker 1: Very rarely now, is it like there's a hot defensive coordinator.

1169
00:53:28,266 --> 00:53:30,626
Speaker 1: We always have the hot offensive coordinator. Who's a hot

1170
00:53:30,666 --> 00:53:33,586
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator? You like watching game

1171
00:53:33,626 --> 00:53:34,986
Speaker 1: tape from on Monday mornings.

1172
00:53:36,666 --> 00:53:37,506
Speaker 6: That's a good question.

1173
00:53:37,586 --> 00:53:37,746
Speaker 1: You know.

1174
00:53:38,066 --> 00:53:40,466
Speaker 5: I think Patrick Graham is doing a pretty good job

1175
00:53:40,466 --> 00:53:42,986
Speaker 5: with the Raiders right now that their defense has been

1176
00:53:43,026 --> 00:53:46,586
Speaker 5: a lot better than people think. And we saw that

1177
00:53:46,626 --> 00:53:48,986
Speaker 5: against Green Bay last night. And there's not a ton

1178
00:53:48,986 --> 00:53:53,266
Speaker 5: of talent on the Raiders roster, so he's a good one.

1179
00:53:53,786 --> 00:53:57,546
Speaker 5: Brian Flores, you know, the Vikings defense is not great

1180
00:53:57,626 --> 00:54:01,986
Speaker 5: right now, and their roster is obviously very thin. But

1181
00:54:02,106 --> 00:54:04,746
Speaker 5: I just love watching Brian Flores's defenses because he's so

1182
00:54:04,826 --> 00:54:09,346
Speaker 5: aggressive and it's such a different field than what a

1183
00:54:09,346 --> 00:54:11,306
Speaker 5: lot of these other defenses are doing, which is kind

1184
00:54:11,306 --> 00:54:14,706
Speaker 5: of sitting back in zone trying to stop explosive plays. So,

1185
00:54:14,906 --> 00:54:16,986
Speaker 5: you know, I want to see what Brian Flores could

1186
00:54:17,026 --> 00:54:19,546
Speaker 5: do with a little bit more talent, but it's fun

1187
00:54:19,586 --> 00:54:21,146
Speaker 5: to watch how aggressive that defense is.

1188
00:54:21,586 --> 00:54:24,706
Speaker 1: I always enjoy watching Rahie Morris's Rams play because they're

1189
00:54:24,746 --> 00:54:28,066
Speaker 1: so young, and you're getting stuff from guys like Russ

1190
00:54:28,186 --> 00:54:30,026
Speaker 1: Yeas and Kobe.

1191
00:54:29,746 --> 00:54:31,306
Speaker 2: Durant and Brian Young.

1192
00:54:31,346 --> 00:54:34,026
Speaker 1: And you said you did the article with Jordan about

1193
00:54:34,066 --> 00:54:36,946
Speaker 1: the Rams offense. I think the Rams defense is fascinating

1194
00:54:36,986 --> 00:54:40,466
Speaker 1: because they lost a slew of talent and yet they

1195
00:54:40,506 --> 00:54:43,546
Speaker 1: still hold opponents under thirty points. I think Rahie Morris

1196
00:54:43,546 --> 00:54:44,586
Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit.

1197
00:54:45,066 --> 00:54:46,466
Speaker 6: No, I definitely agree with you.

1198
00:54:46,546 --> 00:54:48,586
Speaker 5: And you know they're doing it with two corners that

1199
00:54:48,626 --> 00:54:50,066
Speaker 5: they picked up off the street, you know, with the

1200
00:54:50,146 --> 00:54:53,586
Speaker 5: Kilo Witherspoon and Duke Shelley who got cut from the

1201
00:54:53,666 --> 00:54:58,346
Speaker 5: Raiders before the season. So it's really hard to do,

1202
00:54:58,466 --> 00:55:02,506
Speaker 5: you know, play defense without really great corners, and right

1203
00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:05,026
Speaker 5: now the Rams are doing it, so yeah, I think

1204
00:55:05,106 --> 00:55:07,066
Speaker 5: Moore should get a ton of it as well.

1205
00:55:07,546 --> 00:55:09,386
Speaker 1: All Right, a couple more questions that we could do

1206
00:55:09,426 --> 00:55:11,306
Speaker 1: a little draft picks for it, and then we'll let

1207
00:55:11,306 --> 00:55:11,586
Speaker 1: you go.

1208
00:55:11,706 --> 00:55:11,946
Speaker 2: Ted.

1209
00:55:12,626 --> 00:55:15,466
Speaker 1: As far as playmakers go, you mentioned McCaffrey. Who's your

1210
00:55:15,506 --> 00:55:18,146
Speaker 1: favorite guy to watch? Who's the favorite the most dynamic guy,

1211
00:55:18,146 --> 00:55:19,746
Speaker 1: And then if you were building an offense, it's say,

1212
00:55:19,986 --> 00:55:21,386
Speaker 1: get me that guy. We can go to work with

1213
00:55:21,426 --> 00:55:26,266
Speaker 1: that guy who's the offensive playmaker non quarterback that you cherish,

1214
00:55:26,306 --> 00:55:28,346
Speaker 1: and that maybe on Monday mornings you quickly go and

1215
00:55:28,346 --> 00:55:29,306
Speaker 1: look and see what he did.

1216
00:55:30,546 --> 00:55:33,506
Speaker 5: You know, I think Justin Jefferson is one of my

1217
00:55:33,546 --> 00:55:36,946
Speaker 5: favorite guys to watch, just his you know, like when

1218
00:55:36,986 --> 00:55:37,906
Speaker 5: you look at receivers.

1219
00:55:37,946 --> 00:55:40,106
Speaker 6: I like watching receivers.

1220
00:55:39,626 --> 00:55:42,586
Speaker 5: That have the sceptive body language, so you know, their

1221
00:55:42,706 --> 00:55:44,706
Speaker 5: their body is telling you they're going to run one way,

1222
00:55:44,746 --> 00:55:47,186
Speaker 5: but then they break the other way. And Justin Jefferson

1223
00:55:47,506 --> 00:55:49,706
Speaker 5: is just a master at doing that, and he's so

1224
00:55:49,786 --> 00:55:53,266
Speaker 5: creative with his route running. He's a really fun guy

1225
00:55:53,266 --> 00:55:55,346
Speaker 5: to watch and he's just you know, it always seems

1226
00:55:55,426 --> 00:55:59,346
Speaker 5: like he's beating double teams. And he's getting you know,

1227
00:55:59,426 --> 00:56:03,026
Speaker 5: twenty yard chunks at a time in an offense where

1228
00:56:03,066 --> 00:56:05,506
Speaker 5: you know there's not a ton of talent around him

1229
00:56:05,506 --> 00:56:08,706
Speaker 5: and guys, you know, defenses are able to double team him,

1230
00:56:08,706 --> 00:56:10,946
Speaker 5: but he still finds a way to make plays I find.

1231
00:56:10,986 --> 00:56:12,626
Speaker 1: I mean, I know I mentioned him ten times. I

1232
00:56:12,666 --> 00:56:16,466
Speaker 1: like Deebo still, like I love watching Deebo film because

1233
00:56:16,466 --> 00:56:21,386
Speaker 1: he plays so angry and he plays so physically for

1234
00:56:21,506 --> 00:56:23,466
Speaker 1: a receiver, and then they put him at running back

1235
00:56:23,466 --> 00:56:24,986
Speaker 1: and I just feel like, as much as we talk

1236
00:56:24,986 --> 00:56:27,266
Speaker 1: about positionless players and Jamier Gibbs is going to be

1237
00:56:27,306 --> 00:56:29,746
Speaker 1: that and you know McCaffrey does this and that, Like,

1238
00:56:29,786 --> 00:56:31,626
Speaker 1: I still feel like Debo's one of one when it

1239
00:56:31,666 --> 00:56:34,146
Speaker 1: comes to oh wait circle nineteen, he's going to do

1240
00:56:34,186 --> 00:56:36,026
Speaker 1: something crazy out there and oh he's going to also

1241
00:56:36,066 --> 00:56:37,346
Speaker 1: lower his shoulder and do it to you.

1242
00:56:38,146 --> 00:56:40,546
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, his highlight, it's like a watching a

1243
00:56:40,626 --> 00:56:42,906
Speaker 5: high school high school highlight, you know, where he's just

1244
00:56:42,906 --> 00:56:46,746
Speaker 5: like overpowering guys of the secondary, running through guys, spinning around.

1245
00:56:47,586 --> 00:56:49,426
Speaker 5: And I've gotten to watch him, you know, I've had

1246
00:56:49,466 --> 00:56:51,186
Speaker 5: an opportunity to watch him live a bunch of times.

1247
00:56:51,266 --> 00:56:53,826
Speaker 5: Obviously with him being on a Niners and it's just

1248
00:56:53,866 --> 00:56:56,506
Speaker 5: amazing to watch him run through secondary. He's like, he

1249
00:56:56,546 --> 00:56:59,586
Speaker 5: breaks tackles better than a lot of running backs. So

1250
00:57:00,226 --> 00:57:02,266
Speaker 5: I absolutely agree, he's a really fun to watch.

1251
00:57:02,546 --> 00:57:04,746
Speaker 1: Okay, my last question, and this one always I have

1252
00:57:04,746 --> 00:57:07,906
Speaker 1: to end on a sour note. The most frustrating offense

1253
00:57:07,946 --> 00:57:09,586
Speaker 1: in the league the one where you put this film

1254
00:57:09,586 --> 00:57:10,346
Speaker 1: on you like, I can't.

1255
00:57:10,386 --> 00:57:10,906
Speaker 2: I just can't.

1256
00:57:10,906 --> 00:57:13,586
Speaker 1: I can't watch all thirty eight snaps of the first

1257
00:57:13,626 --> 00:57:16,746
Speaker 1: half from the Who's the most frustrating offense that you've

1258
00:57:16,746 --> 00:57:19,426
Speaker 1: been watching twenty twenty three right now?

1259
00:57:19,466 --> 00:57:22,586
Speaker 5: It's the Atlanta Falcons, And it's just because I had

1260
00:57:22,626 --> 00:57:26,226
Speaker 5: such high expectations for them coming into the season. They

1261
00:57:26,266 --> 00:57:29,066
Speaker 5: have all those high draft picks Drake London, Kyle Pitts,

1262
00:57:29,106 --> 00:57:31,666
Speaker 5: b Jhon Robinson, and we know Arthur Smith is a

1263
00:57:31,826 --> 00:57:37,666
Speaker 5: creative play caller, play designer. But the offense was sputtering

1264
00:57:38,026 --> 00:57:39,586
Speaker 5: in the beginning of the season. And part of it

1265
00:57:39,666 --> 00:57:43,906
Speaker 5: is they have some pass protection issues. Desmond Ritter needs development.

1266
00:57:44,986 --> 00:57:47,306
Speaker 5: But you know, right now, their leading receiver is John

1267
00:57:47,346 --> 00:57:49,626
Speaker 5: new Smith, you know, so we thought they were gonna

1268
00:57:49,666 --> 00:57:52,346
Speaker 5: do a lot more with what they have. We thought

1269
00:57:52,346 --> 00:57:54,466
Speaker 5: they were gonna use b Jon Robinson in a slot

1270
00:57:54,586 --> 00:57:57,586
Speaker 5: like they were touting all off season. But I will

1271
00:57:57,626 --> 00:58:00,306
Speaker 5: have to say I watched their game last week against

1272
00:58:00,306 --> 00:58:03,786
Speaker 5: the Texans, and I was really impressed with Desmond Ritter.

1273
00:58:03,946 --> 00:58:06,226
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I did not expect him to

1274
00:58:06,266 --> 00:58:07,586
Speaker 6: be really.

1275
00:58:07,626 --> 00:58:08,986
Speaker 1: I know, he put up big numbers and had the

1276
00:58:09,066 --> 00:58:11,266
Speaker 1: drive at the end, but you think he was good.

1277
00:58:11,666 --> 00:58:14,746
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, he made some big boy throws downfield.

1278
00:58:14,826 --> 00:58:17,306
Speaker 5: He was aggressive, he was accurate, and it was night

1279
00:58:17,346 --> 00:58:20,346
Speaker 5: and day between the Desert Ritter we saw in the

1280
00:58:20,386 --> 00:58:23,866
Speaker 5: beginning the season and this game. So it was a

1281
00:58:23,866 --> 00:58:25,746
Speaker 5: type of game where I thought, you know, maybe he

1282
00:58:26,106 --> 00:58:26,346
Speaker 5: might have.

1283
00:58:26,346 --> 00:58:26,986
Speaker 6: Flipped the switch.

1284
00:58:27,386 --> 00:58:30,106
Speaker 5: It wasn't just a game where he was getting lucky

1285
00:58:30,106 --> 00:58:33,626
Speaker 5: wide open receivers. He was making some legitimate reads, legitimate

1286
00:58:33,666 --> 00:58:37,426
Speaker 5: downfield throws. So hopefully they turned things around, but they

1287
00:58:37,506 --> 00:58:40,026
Speaker 5: were one of the most frustrating offenses to watch.

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Speaker 1: I hate to pick on a team that's down, obviously,

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Speaker 1: and now it makes good fodder. But I tried watching

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00:58:46,266 --> 00:58:49,786
Speaker 1: that Patriots Saints game back yesterday. I can't watch that

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Speaker 1: Patriots offense. And Bill O'Brien is a smart guy. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: he's got the credentials he knows how to run an offense, Like,

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Speaker 1: is that thing just da? Is that dead on arrival?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean it's right now.

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Speaker 5: I think Mac Jones is playing some really bad football,

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Speaker 5: and I don't want to put it all on him,

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00:59:05,786 --> 00:59:09,826
Speaker 5: but watching that Cowboys game, it just seemed like after

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Speaker 5: he had that fund that strip sack that went for

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Speaker 5: a touchdown, it completely changed his mindset. Like there was

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00:59:16,266 --> 00:59:18,506
Speaker 5: times where he had clean pockets and he would try

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Speaker 5: to scramble out of it. There's time when he had

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Speaker 5: open receivers he would pass up on it. And there's

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00:59:23,186 --> 00:59:26,066
Speaker 5: protection issues obviously at times, and they don't have a

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00:59:26,106 --> 00:59:28,346
Speaker 5: lot of receiving talent. But it's just right now, it's

1305
00:59:28,426 --> 00:59:32,226
Speaker 5: just a perfect storm of bad things happening with that

1306
00:59:32,306 --> 00:59:35,346
Speaker 5: offense where it's like you said, I think it's worse

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Speaker 5: than the league right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Forrey Rap, let's turn the page. I know you

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Speaker 1: do a lot of draft stuff too. Have you had

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Speaker 1: a chance to watch any of these college quarterbacks?

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Speaker 6: Yet?

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Speaker 5: I try not to pay too much attention to college

1313
00:59:47,186 --> 00:59:49,666
Speaker 5: during the season because I need at least one day

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Speaker 5: I spend some time with my girlfriend and that day

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Speaker 5: is Saturday. But I do catch as much Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: as I can. And one quarterback that I really like

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Speaker 5: watching is Michael PENNOCKX.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, up in Washington.

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Speaker 1: So talk about him because I feel like, right now

1320
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Speaker 1: everyone's so zeroed in on Caleb in May, and yet

1321
01:00:09,586 --> 01:00:11,666
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of football people in the league who

1322
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Speaker 1: are like, why is no one talking about Penix? So

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Speaker 1: give us a little something on Penix up in Washington.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So last year, early in the year, I had

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Speaker 5: no idea who Michael Pennix is was, but I caught

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Speaker 5: a Washington game I was.

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Speaker 6: Like, Wow, this guy is really aggressive. He's throwing downfield.

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Speaker 5: You know, his offense isn't just this little dink and

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Speaker 5: dunk bubble screen type of offense. He's running some concepts

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Speaker 5: that translate into the league. And this year he's kind

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Speaker 5: of you know, he has I think even a better

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01:00:39,506 --> 01:00:42,186
Speaker 5: offense with two receivers that are going to go early

1333
01:00:42,186 --> 01:00:46,266
Speaker 5: in the draft. He's aggressive. You see all the downfield throws,

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Speaker 5: and he has a kind of a funky throwing motion.

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Speaker 5: I kind of compare him to Philip Rivers you have

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01:00:52,106 --> 01:00:55,826
Speaker 5: with a little shot put type of motion. Yeah, but

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01:00:55,866 --> 01:00:58,546
Speaker 5: he's still really accurate and he has a really strong arm,

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Speaker 5: but I love how aggressive he is and how he's

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01:01:01,466 --> 01:01:03,186
Speaker 5: always trying to attack defenses.

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Speaker 4: Ded.

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Speaker 2: This was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you waking up early, especially after a

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Speaker 1: Raiders game last night at Raiders win. Just for the

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Speaker 1: viewers and listeners at home. Where can we find your

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Speaker 1: stuff and give us kind of the beats of your

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Speaker 1: week where we know when we could check your feed,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have the best stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So you can find me on Twitter at FB

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Speaker 5: Underscore film Analysis.

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Speaker 6: I'm always tweeting out clips throughout the week.

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Speaker 5: Tuesday, I have a column on the Athletic called Cover

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Speaker 5: seven when I cover coaching decisions I like or dislike.

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Speaker 5: Later in a week, I have a column about, you know,

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Speaker 5: a specific team focus that I found interesting. And I

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Speaker 5: have a YouTube channel with the same Twitter and Twitter name,

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Speaker 5: so you could check that out too.

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Speaker 1: Give me one example of a decision you didn't like

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Speaker 1: this week coaching decision.

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Speaker 5: Coaching decision I did not like was just the Eagles

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Speaker 5: overall red zone offense. I just think there's okay, yeah,

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Speaker 5: And part of it is they're missing the guy that

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01:02:00,346 --> 01:02:04,266
Speaker 5: we're talking about, Sane Stiken, and they're just so dependent

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01:02:04,346 --> 01:02:07,706
Speaker 5: on AJ Brown, you know, back shoulder fades, and they've

1364
01:02:07,746 --> 01:02:11,026
Speaker 5: gotten kind of vanilla with their run game down there, so.

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Speaker 6: It's been a problem.

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Speaker 5: They dropped from third in the league in efficiency in

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01:02:14,666 --> 01:02:18,066
Speaker 5: the red zone to twenty seven this year, and that's

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Speaker 5: through five games. So I think they need to get

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Speaker 5: more creative in the red zone, and that's that's something

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01:02:23,946 --> 01:02:24,626
Speaker 5: to watch out for.

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Speaker 2: Bigger media is a question for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not letting you go because you're just

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Speaker 1: you're really good, and you're spitting out all these stats

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Speaker 1: and you got all this information.

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Speaker 2: Do you get frustrated?

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01:02:34,506 --> 01:02:36,306
Speaker 1: I know, there's like it's easy to throw your you know,

1377
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Speaker 1: do you get frustrated when you hear people talking about

1378
01:02:38,546 --> 01:02:40,506
Speaker 1: football on TV who you know, haven't put the work

1379
01:02:40,506 --> 01:02:42,626
Speaker 1: in or you know, don't watch these teams and are

1380
01:02:42,666 --> 01:02:45,386
Speaker 1: just talking about them out of their ass? Uh?

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Speaker 6: Sometimes?

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Speaker 5: I mean, but I think getting into the media, I

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01:02:49,706 --> 01:02:53,026
Speaker 5: realize how tough this job is now and how tough

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Speaker 5: it is to be on.

1385
01:02:53,826 --> 01:02:54,826
Speaker 6: TV every day.

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01:02:55,226 --> 01:02:57,426
Speaker 5: But yeah, once in a while, you hear like a

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01:02:57,466 --> 01:03:01,346
Speaker 5: take that like does not make sense at all, Like

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Speaker 5: Leo last week. I almost say the name, but I

1389
01:03:03,466 --> 01:03:07,386
Speaker 5: heard somebody talking about Mike B Daniels all offenses what

1390
01:03:07,826 --> 01:03:09,026
Speaker 5: like not as not.

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Speaker 6: Being a creative one.

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01:03:09,906 --> 01:03:12,626
Speaker 5: But I was like, dude, everybody is copying this offense

1393
01:03:12,626 --> 01:03:13,426
Speaker 5: around the league right now.

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Speaker 2: It's copying it. Everyone's trying so hard. Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I do understand it is tough being on

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Speaker 5: TV every single day. I mean, it's tough doing a

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Speaker 5: weekly podcast, you know, so you know, I understand there's

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01:03:25,066 --> 01:03:27,786
Speaker 5: not enough time for everyone to watch every single game

1399
01:03:28,146 --> 01:03:30,386
Speaker 5: like me. But yeah, I mean, if you're gonna have

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Speaker 5: a hot take, make sure you research it.

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01:03:32,946 --> 01:03:33,826
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: No one's asking you to know every team, but if

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Speaker 1: you are asked about a team and you've prepared for it,

1404
01:03:37,906 --> 01:03:40,386
Speaker 1: you should probably know what you're talking about. Ted, you

1405
01:03:40,466 --> 01:03:42,786
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Everybody, go check out Ted.

1406
01:03:42,826 --> 01:03:44,666
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining the season with Peter schager Man. I

1407
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Speaker 1: really appreciated it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no problem, Thanks for having me on.

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01:03:47,666 --> 01:03:54,306
Speaker 1: Ted Win aaron high school football player turned college student

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Speaker 1: who at the same time is coaching football, then starts blogging,

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Speaker 1: and now is one of the leaders in the space.

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Speaker 4: Pretty cool story, right, Yeah, I and I love some

1413
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Speaker 4: of his writing. I think when you let us know

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Speaker 4: that he was going to be the guest this week.

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Speaker 4: I was geeking out because he has an article if

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Speaker 4: anyone is looking for something to read from Ted. He

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Speaker 4: obviously writes things multiple times a week, but back almost

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Speaker 4: four years ago to the day, back in October of

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, he published an article called how to watch

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Speaker 4: Football like an Expert from the comfort of your couch,

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Speaker 4: and he talks about it in the interview where he

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Speaker 4: was explaining this to fifteen year old freshman, like how

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Speaker 4: to block on the line, and he breaks down passing concepts,

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Speaker 4: defensive looks, you know, what's the difference between a bubble

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Speaker 4: screen and an RPO? And he has he explains it

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Speaker 4: so well. These are things I didn't necessarily understand when

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Speaker 4: I first found the article, and I go back to

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Speaker 4: it every year to just be like, oh yeah, let

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Speaker 4: me just like remind myself all these terms. Love that article,

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Speaker 4: Love Ted, And it was really cool to hear to

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Speaker 4: hear him talk about the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Offenses being great. I know, I love that. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: was great.

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Speaker 1: And it's also just a story for those listeners out

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Speaker 1: there who are like, I'd love to get in your business,

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Speaker 2: Found him and there you go.

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Speaker 1: Now he's a writer on the Athletic and he's going

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Speaker 1: to have a promising future beyond that, this week's pod

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Speaker 1: was a blast to do. It's always a blast to

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Speaker 1: Last week's Jason Light podcast when absolutely bonkers.

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Speaker 1: to Baker himself and him commenting on it, that's the

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Speaker 1: stuff we're looking forward, Trying to have some moments, trying

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