1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with the Shawan Jackson today and 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: de Sean I want to start here. So you're obviously 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: known for your speed, right when is the first time 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: that you ever remember winning a race? Like, when did 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: you know you were fast? Well? I think always growing 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: up when I was when I was young, I was 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: always kind of one of the smallest players on you know, 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: every team I played on. So like my the only 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: doctor really brag about was my speed because it was 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: like I wasn't like no big dude, but uh, I mean, 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just from all the way back 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: to pop winner man. On every team, I was like 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: one of the one of the fastest on my teams 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: all the time. So the thing might be like around 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: like nine years old. My my older brother, Byne, he 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: played in the NFL with the kN C Chiefs for 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: like a couple of years, and he was fast too, 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: but he was always he was like fifteen years older 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: than me, so I knew he was fast while I 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: challenged me at a young age. I was like nine, 22 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I could beat you, and he 23 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: was like, man, you ain't gonna be at ain't gonna 24 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: never be to beat me. So I like raised him 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: and he he says he won, but I think I 26 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: beat him. But I was like nine years old and 27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: I got him. So once I beat my older brother, 28 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, that's when I already knew I 29 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: was fact. And you said how much older was he? 30 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: He's like fixteen years old he was, And you know, 31 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I had different type of speed at that age. But 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: I was always a competitor though, Like it was just 33 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: something about me that, you know, being one of the 34 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: smallest dudes, Like everybody always tried to pick on me 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: and you know, mess with me. So it's just like 36 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: something about me, always just talking stuff Like you know, 37 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: I was a very big competitor right now. The last 38 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: time I remember ever being fast was probably in kindergarten. 39 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: First grave field day, you know, you ever field day 40 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: and you have the relay races and all that. He 41 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: was always the first pick. He mused to take it 42 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: like every ribbon and feel day. No, I used to 43 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: grab me fast, Like if anything I got to do 44 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: with a relay or running, like, yeah I was, I 45 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: was coming off the board pretty fast. Yeah, that's all, 46 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious when you when you talk about 47 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: like you're passing, you know, smaller guy, but your speed 48 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: is what separated you? Like did you did that? Was 49 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: that something that you had those sort of like fight 50 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: against that you would like being a smaller player, like 51 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: you would always hear that draft talk or in the 52 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: NFL or when you're in high school when you're getting 53 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: recruited by college, just like you had to kind of 54 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: fight against that notion. I think for for me it 55 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: was it was one of the things where I knew 56 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: what I was great at and you know, I didn't 57 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: run from it. But that's not all all I wanted 58 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: to be known for, you know what I'm saying, Like 59 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: football obviously being fast, but it was like me being 60 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, like I didn't want to people to say, 61 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: oh he's one trick pony world. That's all he could 62 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: do was run fast, you know what I'm saying. So 63 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I proud of myself on you know, runting routes, running 64 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: great routes, you know, being able to rent every route, 65 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: not just the deep protess you know, the shallow routes, 66 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: the intermediate routes, you know, and just checking every box 67 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: off the list, you know what I'm saying. So for me, 68 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: it was just taking pride at being more than the 69 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: speed on and I took emphasis and you know, I 70 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: practiced at everything, the extra work that people don't see 71 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: or didn't know about, you know what I'm in because 72 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: they's like, how are you so good? But it's like, 73 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of work in silence. I don't 74 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: really like a lot of people knowing what I'm doing 75 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: or how I'm working or when I'm working. It's just 76 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: like pop out and you see the finished product. Well, 77 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: we saw you pop out with a big play at Jacksonville. Sure, yeah, 78 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: you hit the Your speed was the third fastest time 79 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL this year, twenty one point seven two 80 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: miles per hour. I think that like you know, when 81 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: you get when you get signed and you're at the 82 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: stage of your career, the question is like you still 83 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: got it? Did it feel good to show everybody? Yeah 84 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: I still got that speed? If? For me, uh, like 85 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: I said, I'm I'm confident myself. I know what I'm 86 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: capable of doing. So uh, you know, it's it's insurance 87 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: I guess in the world. But you know, I'm thirty 88 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: sisters trying thirty sis just had a birthday, So I 89 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: appreciate it and I feel great, man playing this game 90 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: at a high level. Obviously, you know, I'm not gonna 91 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: be out there, you know, as much as I would 92 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: if I was younger, because you know, just the rep 93 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: the rep counts, and you know they wanted me as 94 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: fresh as possible. But you know, I see people like, man, 95 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: why are you not out there more? It's just like, 96 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's whatever my role is, whatever I'm called do, 97 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for. And uh, you know, I'm 98 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: happy to be on the team, like like the Ravens um. 99 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, I got a lot of talent, a lot 100 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: of upside, and we're just taking a one one game 101 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: at a time, one day at a time, and just 102 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: preparing ourselves to you know, hopefully be one of the 103 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: last sting of teams. Do you still do speed training 104 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: or is it like now I do in the off season? 105 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, I definitely, uh, you know, work very 106 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: hard on the track throughout my whole career, honestly, because 107 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, I knew, like it ain't like I'm gonna 108 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: be a weightlifter or a bodybuilder, so It's like at 109 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm gonna speed guys. So 110 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: it's like if I stay fast, I know I can 111 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: play this game for a long time. So, um, just 112 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: off season kind of standing on the tracks, down on 113 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: my track coach, being able to, you know, just be dedicated, 114 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, playing planning a sport in the highest sport 115 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: at the highest level. Dedication, man, and consistency is the 116 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: two biggest things, you know, and putting in the hard work. 117 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: You can't, you know, just think you're gonna wake up 118 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: one day and just be the same player if you're 119 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: not putting to work. So I just probably myself on 120 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: putting the working man. And you know, like you said, 121 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: when I get out on the field, you know, all 122 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: these young dudes like, man, how you have to still 123 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: run so fast? And it's a lot of these duds 124 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm playing against. Was really like in middle school when 125 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I first came out, like all the plays when I 126 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: was back in Philly with Michael Vick and all that stuff, 127 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: like they always like, man, applaud me about that, and 128 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: it's like I appreciate it. But right now we're in 129 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: the game, like I'm worried, I'm worried about beating you 130 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: right now, Like we'll talking about that after the game. Funny, man, 131 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah, I get I get some crazy, um 132 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, stories about a lot of these young dudes. 133 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: But it's like it's definitely respectful and appreciate it. But 134 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: I can't can't take that during the game. You gotta wait, 135 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Dade of the game, I was about that. Do you 136 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: look at them during the game? Me, like, you keep 137 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: talking about this and talk about who I was, and 138 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: all this time we're about to cook you. For sure? Yeah, 139 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: you got you gotta have that mentality because I mean, 140 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I know they're out there and you know they're younger, 141 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: so I feel like they're like, man, I can't let 142 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: this old dude beat me. But at the end of 143 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: the day, I look at this experience, man, you know, 144 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: it's just just still being able to, you know, play 145 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: this game at a high level, just taking pride to it. Um. 146 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm having fun with him and that's why 147 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm back here and you know doing it that year fifteen? 148 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: Is it? Um? Is it weird when you hear guys 149 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: talking about like I watched you in middle school, like 150 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: the current players too, Like like when you joined this 151 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: team and you're going to that receiver room like you know, 152 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Rassai Bateman and Devin Duverney like they're like in middle 153 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: school and elementary school, like what you're making the plays 154 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: that you're you were making, Like is it? Is it? 155 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: What is that feeling like when you step into that 156 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: room when Pat's certain right for the Broncos. His dad 157 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: played in the league. Did you ever go up against 158 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: his dad? That's why we was just having that conversation. 159 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: I think, honestly, past entertain I think he was in 160 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: the league, probably like my first year, first two years 161 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: in the league, so I think I did cross passes. 162 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: Another story that was crazy was Sante Samuel. I played 163 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: with him in Philly and I played against his son too, 164 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: So it's like playing with the dudes dad and they're 165 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: playing with their son. You know, it's it's just like evidence, 166 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, revolutional. So for me, um, you know, I 167 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: enjoy it, but it just it just shows me my 168 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: accomplishments and you know, how or if came and how 169 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm able to still play at this level because uh, 170 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: you know, not one time I'm sitting here thinking about 171 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: something and not living in the moment. Like I can't 172 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: think about oh eight or twenty twelve, Like I gotta 173 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: live in the moment of right now. That's because if 174 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: not and I'm thinking about the old days, some something 175 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: might be mr or something might happen. So it's like 176 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I gotta stay in the moment and just stay on 177 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: my ground and just keep playing at all right level. 178 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm curious because you know, I have a nephew who 179 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: plays football and he's he's pretty good. Now, he's gonna 180 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: make his way. But you know, you don't have the 181 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: speed of you. You know that you have you know, uh, 182 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: what advice do you have for kids who want to 183 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: make big plays but aren't as gifted as you are 184 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: in the speed departments. In me, I would really just say, 185 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: just just work at it, man. It Everything that I've 186 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: been able to be blessed at, like the blessing or 187 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, to be able to say His God giving 188 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: like that's good and that's great now, but you still 189 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: gotta put in the work. So I mean, even things 190 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: that I'm not good at, I'm gonna figure out a 191 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: way to be great at it. Like it's a lot 192 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: of things that I, you know, have fun doing now, 193 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: like playing golf, for fishing, or you know, just doing 194 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: things that I probably would never was never good at, 195 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and it's like I mastered it because I keep doing 196 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: it over and over and over and it's like, now, okay, 197 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I can be pretty I ain't gonna say I'm great 198 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: in golf, but I could be pretty good. And the 199 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: fishing I kind of, you know, took it, took a 200 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: liking for fishing, and you know I'm pretty good at 201 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: that now too. So it's just like things that you know, 202 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: it may not come easier something you didn't you know, 203 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: do growing up. Just work hard at it. And if 204 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: you work hard at it, put to work in you 205 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: could be great in anything. So you signed here in 206 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: mid October to the practice squad, talk me through that. 207 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: Were you talking with any teams prior to coming here? Like, 208 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, when we signed you, it's kind of like, oh, 209 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: he's still out there, like what what? Like what was 210 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes there? Did you think about 211 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: sign any anywhere else? Would you wait till then to sign? Yeah? 212 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: Well I had a few teams that you know obviously 213 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: was interested. Um, you know last year Jane, where I 214 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: you know, finished my season in Las Vegas, played with 215 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders and we went to the first round of 216 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs, lost to uh SINCE And after that, I 217 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: kind of just took time off and just was like 218 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: not really worried about, you know, the next steps. It 219 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: was like, you know, my agent was hitting me up 220 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: and say, you know, I had teams interested, but you know, 221 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: obviously the age always plays a factor when you're thirty 222 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: five and you know, all the teams like, man, he's older, 223 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: Like can he still play? Can he's still doing? So 224 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: for me, um, it just it didn't know offers really 225 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: interested me. So I just kind of just focused on, 226 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, my kids, you know, myself, took time to 227 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: myself and them, you know, just really enjoyed finding some 228 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: some family time and just you know, doing whatever I 229 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: wanted to do because in the past, like once the 230 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: season's over, you know, I get right back to it. 231 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm signed to a team, I got o t a 232 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: s you know off season wherek I was training camp. 233 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: So this year was my first time like really like 234 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen years if you add college into it, where 235 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: I was able to just not do nothing. I kind 236 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: of like fell in love with it. It's like I 237 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: feeling like, man, this is what it feels like. So 238 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: I kind of gotta taste of retirement and uh, I 239 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: don't know, man, kind of out of nowhere, some spark 240 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: Like it was like the first few weeks, I'm sitting 241 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: at home watching uh, you know, football on Sundays, and 242 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I could still play, like I knew, 243 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: like I can still go out there in place. So 244 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: interesting story. You know, the Ravens was talking to my agent, 245 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: you know, and during training camp, and they wanted me 246 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: to come out and you know, meet with Hardball because 247 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, Harves got a thing where, like, you know, 248 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: he wants to meet with the players and you know, 249 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: especially like free agents or somebody he has to know. 250 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like me, I'm like, man, what what does 251 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: he need to meet with me for. U's like I'm 252 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: a bad player, Like he he knows what I've done 253 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: over my career. So that was kind of me being 254 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: a little like cocky a little bit. But I'm like, man, 255 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: I didn't really want to come because I'm like, he 256 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: knows about me, he knows what's type player him. So 257 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: I kind of sat around the shielding. Then out of nowhere, man, 258 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: they reached back out and was like, yeah, we have interests. 259 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Um you know, if he comes out for a workout 260 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: and he looks good, we're interesting. The song on him. 261 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: So I'm like at that point, I had like Andy Reid, 262 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, who was my coaching Philly. Me and him 263 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: was talking back and forth. I was talking to Still 264 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: there's a few things I was too, but it was 265 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: just something about, you know, Lamar Man. I had had 266 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: my eyes on him for the past few years because 267 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: I always look back at my younger days when I 268 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: played with Vic and it's like something about with Lamar, 269 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, they're very similar. I'm like, man, it 270 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: would be crazy to be able to play with Vic 271 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: and Lamar of the new era of a Michael Vick. So, 272 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: you know, just the past few years talking to to 273 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: Lamar and like kind of keeping in contact with him. 274 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, tell your coaches to bring me in, like, 275 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, like, man, tell the folks to bring me in. 276 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy how it worked out. I'm here now, that's crazy. 277 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: So you guys had formed the relationship. I'm guessing over 278 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: social over social media tasts here and there, and then 279 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: I've seen them in a few Super Bowl events and 280 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: just kind of like just respected each other. Obviously he's 281 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: a big Michael Vick fan and obviously me too so 282 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: and vice versa. I'm a big fan of his too. 283 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: So it's like, man, it's just crazy how everything worked out. 284 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that you say like Lamar was 285 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: the factor that it sounds to me like Lamar was 286 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: the factor. He was, man, I ain't go like he 287 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: is special, dude, man in his game, man, and just 288 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: how he's able to play this game. Man, it's it's 289 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: very interesting now that you've been here for more than 290 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: a you know, how does he compare to Michael Vick. Honestly, 291 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people ask that the thing I say 292 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: is Michael Vick he never really had plays designed for 293 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: him to run. It was more like plays breaking down 294 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: and like he's scrambling and making things happen. This offense 295 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: is more designed for Lamar that kind of have gaps 296 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: and to run and be an open space like that. 297 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: But I think, like Michael Vicks more straight line fast. 298 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: I think um Lamar is like more in you know, 299 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: instincts and like a cat like and he doesn't take 300 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: his vigy. We used to get so mad at it 301 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: because he used to take his and he didn't know 302 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: how to slide. But for some reason, Lamar like he 303 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: dodges his and like you would think he's about to 304 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: get smacked, and me kind of just like falls down 305 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: and like not get hit. So I think, you know, 306 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: he they definitely have a lot of similarities, but just 307 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: more of uh you know that cat instincts, like he's 308 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: he's different. So so we'll put you on the spot. 309 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Who was the better Vic or Lamar Man? I think 310 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: times times is change now, man um. If I had 311 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: to choose right now, that's tough. I love Vic, I 312 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: love Lamar, but I think I think I would take 313 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Man. All right, he's sitting here on the Ravens couch. 314 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: He has to think comed when he broke his record, 315 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: he was like, I'm realistic though, because like I say, 316 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: not that if you was to ask who's faster, I 317 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: would probably say Vicks faster, like the the young Vicy 318 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: back in the day when you know he was running crazy. 319 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: But just like right now, yeah, I think I think 320 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Lamar is a better renner right now. That's bared out too. 321 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: He broke his record, he broke something. It is fair 322 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: to say, right exactly. That's awesome. So for you, one 323 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: thing that struck me when you got here is like, 324 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: and you know, you signed the practice squad and you 325 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: like some guys would say, I'm not going to sign 326 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: the practice squad with your credentials, but you did that. 327 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: And then like when you weren't playing, you were like 328 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: one of the most active guys on the sideline. You're 329 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: running up and down the field, you're celebrating with teammates, 330 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: And to me, it felt like that like you were 331 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: in respect. I think that way. That's how it seemed 332 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: to me, like you you made yourself like part of 333 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: the team one of the guys. Was that like a 334 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: conscious thing that you did when you got here. Yeah, 335 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: I took pride in that. Um coming in, like you said, 336 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: the idea situation wouldn't have been for me to sign 337 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: on the practice squad and you know be on the 338 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: practice squad for but the past month you know, so um, 339 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, he kind of almost had to put the 340 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: project to the saw. You know, be a goddess, older 341 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: veteran god has played a lot in this league that 342 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of success, you know, has a lot 343 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: of records. For me, it was just really like, you know, what, 344 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: what do I want my resume to look like? On 345 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: my way out? You know what I'm saying, Like I 346 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: have a chance to to to write the end of story, 347 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: and what is it gonna look like? Because last year, 348 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't feel like that was my end, 349 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, walking away from the game and not ready 350 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: being on my terms. So coming here now is like, 351 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, I just wanted to put my best foot forward, um, 352 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: show people, you know how desired I am and to 353 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: winning it, to being a mentor and to be a 354 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: guy that's a true veteran and teaching these young guys 355 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: and show them the right way to do it. Because 356 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: when I was young, you know, I didn't do everything right. 357 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: You know, I had to learn the hard way on 358 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: on a lot of things. But now being a more 359 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: bright guy and kind of understanding the business and how 360 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: it works with the front office, the gms, the owners, 361 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's like I can really tell these young 362 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: guys like what to expect for you know, what to 363 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: what to look after. And you know the best thing 364 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: is just putting your best foot for it. Every day 365 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: you kind of work, you know, putting on your hard 366 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: hat and your boots, and just coming to work and 367 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, leaving everything else for us, you know, for 368 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: what it's for. You know, you you you work for 369 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: what you deserve and if you work for it, you 370 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: could get a lot of things out this game. Last year, 371 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: you start out with the Rams and then mid season 372 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: went to Vegas you got a Super Bowl ring. Yeah, 373 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: it's a bittersweet. I was just curious like how you 374 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of look back on that end. Did that even 375 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: fuel more of that? You know what? Man? I want 376 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: to go out of Super Bowl champions Yeah, yeah, definitely. 377 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean to be on the team like that last year, 378 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, throughout training and going back to the off 379 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: season you know o t a um training camp and 380 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: playing eight games you know, mid way through the season 381 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: and just kind of seeing what, you know, the relationship 382 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: we built Camaradie with the team and the players. I mean, 383 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a special thing, you know. Unfortunately 384 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: that you know, things didn't really work out and I 385 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: had to leave and go to you know, Las Vegas. 386 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: But uh, that desire for me, man, is the only 387 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: thing I'm really missing. You know, It's a super Bowl 388 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: when it's like I've had played in some big games, 389 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,359 Speaker 1: had some big moments, big plays, you know, But obviously 390 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl is something that I feel like I'm 391 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: deserving enough, So you know, if it's meant and it happens, 392 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully that's this year. But like I said that, 393 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens has always been a team that I respected, 394 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, that way they go about their business, the 395 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: way they played, their toughness, and uh, you know, I 396 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: think this is a special place here, and I've heard 397 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: a lot of good things about this place before I've 398 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: got here too. I got a lot of people that's 399 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: played here, coach here, and uh, you know, everything is 400 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: I've always heard was this is a place that I 401 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: wanted to be, so, you know, listening to them and 402 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: taking what they said their advice, and now I'm here, 403 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: it's like I get what they're saying now. So I'm 404 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: happy and excited about it. But we we got a 405 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: lot of work to do, man, We ain't We're not done, 406 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: and hopefully we can accomplish those goals you mentioned I 407 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: think a little bit earlier that the Steelers were one 408 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: of the teams that were interested in here. So now 409 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: I got you. I gotta adds a really good after 410 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: him because you know, they probably promised I wouldn't say 411 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: they promising stuff, but you know, Mike Thom we had 412 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: a few talks like, yeah, we're bringing in never having 413 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: so now it's like all right now y'all missed out now, 414 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: So y'all on the other side of I got some 415 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: extra motivation, You got some extra cooking to deal. Do 416 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: you expect that that's gonna You know, you've been part 417 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: of some big time rivalries, you know obviously Philly Dallas, 418 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, Washington Dallas. Uh you know what, what do 419 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: you feel like this Raven Steelers rivalry is gonna feel like? Honestly, 420 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: I'm excited about I've been hearing a lot about it. 421 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: Um you know, I know they're at four and in 422 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: the past four games versus, so you know, hopefully we 423 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: can rewrite that that streak and uh man, I'm dead 424 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: fully excited. I grew up a Stealer fan a little bit. 425 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: You know. My mother, Yeah, my family, my family is, 426 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: my family is from Pigsburg, Pennsylvania. Growing up, my mom 427 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: and dad moved to California, Um, like, you know, late seventies, 428 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: early eighties, and I was born in Calli And they 429 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: ended up raising me in Calli, But y'all have a 430 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: lot of family just from Picksburgh, so um, you know, 431 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: rest in peace. My dad. I lost him at O nine. 432 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: But my first game actually when I was in Philly, 433 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: we played, uh the Pigsburgh Steelers for the preseason game. 434 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: My dad had the Eagle Jackson jersey, but he had 435 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: this terrible town. I was just telling my brother this morning, 436 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: I said, I know my dad gonna had a terrible tire, 437 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: but he's gonna have that Ravens fifteen jersey. That's really cool. 438 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: So the more Jackson obviously got hurt, Snoop comes in 439 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: and you guys get to win, you know on Sunday. 440 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: Obviously you want the more Jackson on the field, as 441 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: we've been talking about, but how much confidence you haven't 442 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: snooped in the way he was able to kind of 443 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: have command of the huddle and if he has to 444 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: be the guy for a few games here that you're 445 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: confident he can do the I mean, you know, the 446 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: NFL's this is this is a tough sport man and 447 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes unfortunate, you know, the guys go down 448 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: and it's almost the next man of mentality, and that's 449 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: what you have to have that's the memory. You have 450 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: to have a short memory. And uh, you know in 451 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: that moment, we're all professionals. We get paid to be 452 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: a professional. So when when one guy goes down, the 453 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: next man has to step up. And uh, you know, 454 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: Snoop did a great job of coming in being prepared. Um. 455 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: One thing I can't say about him, he's he's in 456 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: tune with the playbook. You know, as you can see, 457 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't even think we missed a beat. Not saying 458 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: that we wouldn't left Lamire to be out there, but 459 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: as far as the play calling, they didn't shift the 460 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: play calling around that. We we call it the same 461 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: place that was in for Lamore um when Snoop came 462 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: in there. So that just shows you the comment state 463 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: having him and uh, you know he's able to to 464 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: to carry that work, that workload, and we're excited about it. Um, 465 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be out there, and you know, 466 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Lamar, he gotta get right. 467 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: You gotta get his knee right. And you know when 468 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: it's when it's just time to get back out there, 469 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: we'll we'll be happy about that. But right now, we 470 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta roll what we deal with, man, these 471 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: the cars is deal right now that we're excited about it. 472 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: The one thing I kind of like to see big 473 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: time game in Pittsburgh game. One thing I kind of 474 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: like to see is a little throwback the Sean punt returned. 475 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Do you do you miss it at all? I do, man, 476 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: But you know, man, for some reason, man, they just 477 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: don already want me back there too much, no more, 478 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: less and less, just like one of them. In games 479 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: where it's the tie game, we might be down need 480 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: a big place. So yeah, I definitely, Uh Chris, Chris 481 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: is you know, I actually played against Chris Man he 482 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: was He was actually on on the Bruins when we 483 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: played against the Show and I got a few point 484 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: returns on them, so I give him a hard time 485 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, man, we'll see if the moment 486 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: rises in you know, it's one of the moments. I'm 487 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: definitely intrigued about going back there. That's funny. So you 488 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: play with guys, that's how you know, you know, played 489 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: with the coach and play with the kids of some 490 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: of the guys who you know for parents, you play 491 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: with it's crazy, um, you know, just for for you 492 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: at this point, like do you like you come in 493 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: it seems like you feel comfortable like kind of staying 494 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: to a coach. Hey, like I'm ready put me back 495 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: there point return, Um, like you know, give me a 496 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: shot here, like take take that deep shot like that 497 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: seems like at this point in your career, like when 498 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: you have your credentials that you feel comfortable like But no, 499 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: I think it's it's just more like you said, the 500 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: credentials in the relationship you have with with a coach, Um, 501 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: you be able to report with them. Um, But for me, 502 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, everything I'm gonna talk about, I'm gonna be 503 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: able to back it up. You know, I'm a firm 504 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: believer that you know, if I'm filling the way in 505 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: the game, or I might tell the coach you know this, 506 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: this defender has guarded me this way, like let's try 507 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: to go deep, or he's playing back, let's you know 508 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: running underneath all. Like I feel like my game and 509 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: my acknowledgement of the game is just at a different level, 510 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: so I'm able to see things different. Um. You know, 511 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: being a guy that's played so long in this league, 512 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: so you know, having the relationships with coaches like that 513 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: to be able to come tell them certain things. You know, 514 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: that's key because this big having having that that that's 515 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: that view on the game and to be able to 516 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: implement it where it's like you might be able to 517 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: tell him something that can help out with the endgame situation. 518 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Was the big play against Jackson one that you called 519 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: out or I was been trying to get that play 520 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: car just happened to be at that time. But like 521 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: I said, man, that's you know, I'm here to do 522 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: a job and do it at a high level. And anytime, 523 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, when it plays is called, if it's anything 524 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: to do with number fifteen, I'm gonna be there in 525 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: the rose to the occasion. Well, you you had your 526 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: highest snap count of the season this past year. I 527 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: think you played like what was seven players, Yeah, exactly, 528 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: And I thought you always had certain on that that 529 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: double movie that you gave him, And I was like, 530 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: that's just snoop C snoop. You know, that's we've just 531 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: started playing to us. So you know, we talked about 532 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: that when we've seen it was like, man, I could 533 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: have waited a little longer to throw it, you know, 534 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: but he kind of had pressure and he had to 535 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: get it up a little bit, but you know, just 536 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: like little plays like that or like other plays you 537 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: know throughout the game. I mean, so many things happened 538 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: throughout the game and it's hard to make everyone perfect. 539 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: So you know, just playing with a guy and him 540 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: being able to see, like all right, next time, I know, 541 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: if I throw it like this or I do it 542 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: like that, like it would be a different you know, Oh, 543 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more. Have some really, So my last 544 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: question for you just is you know you kind of 545 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: mentioned you gotta taste the retirement this offseason. You know 546 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: what is next for you? Do you? Are you playing 547 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: this season saying you know what? This is it? You know? 548 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: Or is it? Who knows? Y'all think? Right now? Man, 549 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this, this this right right now, and uh, 550 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: you know, this offseason I'll look I'll look back and 551 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: reevaluate and just really see, um what's next in store. 552 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: But I still feel like I have more football left 553 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: for me. I don't think this year would be the 554 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: last year and me playing so h with that saying 555 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: if I can hear anything, I would love to be 556 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: back here next year and playing playing the year and uh, 557 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, after that. I mean, you know, I don't 558 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: I don't really know about the coaching side of it, 559 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: but I definitely want to do something front office, maybe scouting, 560 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe doing something on like a high 561 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: school level or some broadcasting. But uh, you know, I 562 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: love helping people. I want to be able to get 563 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: back to to these young kids growing up and you know, 564 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: want to push to get into the NFL and just 565 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: really give them the information. But I think the information 566 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: of of knowing what to expect this huge man you 567 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: can't miss kind of you know, how to be be 568 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: that guy, you know, just depending on your role. You know, 569 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: some people might be starring, some people night might not 570 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: be stars. So I mean that's a role for everybody. 571 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: So just encouraging kids to kind of just go after 572 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: their dreams and whatever it is they believe in, it's possible. Awesome, man, 573 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: Well it's been fund setting now if you get to 574 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: know you a little bit, so thank you so much 575 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: and look forward to seeing some more of those big places. 576 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: That's awesome, great stuff from Shawan. Enjoy the conversation. Just 577 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: the interesting guy. It is good to get to know 578 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: him a little bit, and I like kind of hearing 579 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: about his backstory, the process and all that. Before we 580 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: can take you with the conversation, we want to listeners 581 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: to know that the sports landscape is always changing and 582 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: this week is no different. 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One thing that I 602 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: found out in the research that uh, it just didn't 603 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: work its way into the interview. Did you know that 604 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: he was actually also a really good baseball player growing up? 605 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah, so, uh, apparently the 606 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays considered drafting him in the first round 607 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: back in the two thousand five MLB draft. He was 608 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: like a very good center fielder in high school out 609 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: in California. He was kind of like a Kyler Murray 610 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of yeah, like he he he wanted to play 611 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: both sports, baseball and football. But the baseball teams who 612 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: were scouting him, the Phillies, were also really active and 613 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: scouting him, and we're considering drafting him, and but they 614 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: said we'll do it if you quit football, and he 615 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: was like nah, and uh yeah, kind of interesting, like 616 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: he was like a three hitter who stole a ton 617 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: of bases, as you exactly sounds like yeah, like people 618 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: teams were just them blown away by his speed and 619 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: but he he wanted to play football. Well, the football 620 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: thing has worked out pretty well far him. I think 621 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: that was the right decision. Yeah, I think I think 622 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: it's gone. Okay, No, it's it's when you have a guy. 623 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: You know, the Raves have had a few guys, uh 624 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: in this mold, you know, over the past a couple 625 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: of years. You know, Dez Bryant is an example, you know, 626 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: a guy with a with a track record and a 627 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: big name, and and Sean Jackson's kind of similar in 628 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: that I think the Raves are getting more out of 629 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: de Shawn um than they got out of Dez that year. 630 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it kind of is similar, 631 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: and like it's just interesting when these guys come in, 632 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: like the experience it's that they have, and like they've 633 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: been He's been front and center for a long time. Um, 634 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: and now he's like kind of takes a backseat, you 635 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: know on this team. You gotta work his way onto 636 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: the team. Talks about the practice squad, you know, that's 637 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: a hit to the pride. Gotta put that to the side. Um. 638 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: But I think that he's really just kind of worked 639 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: himself into this team well, you know, both from a 640 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: locker room standpoint and from an actual on field production standpoint. Yeah, 641 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: for sure. And I think there's just more to come 642 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: from him. I mean, he's gonna be a big part 643 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: of this offense and trying to kind of turn things 644 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: around offensively here down the stretch. And really the big 645 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: difference team he and and somebody like Dez is like 646 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: his speed, right, he has an attribute that has not aged, 647 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: you know that it does has not taken a hit 648 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: by age like and and he can kind of always 649 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: rely on that to make, you know, a big play, 650 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: to have a big play. And so as we saw 651 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: in the Jacksonville game, and as I'm sure we'll see 652 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: more of, like he's gonna hit some of that. Well. Look, 653 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think that like the thought process here 654 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: is like if you can get four play like that, 655 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, well that right that could have won the game, 656 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: That could have won the game. Like like you signed 657 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: if you signed up, if any player that you have 658 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: on the team, if you point that player and be 659 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: like he won us three games this year, that's a 660 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: big addition. That's that's huge. Yeah, that's a huge issue. 661 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: And like, of course, even if the Ravens had beaten 662 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: the Jags, there's a lot of smaller players to go 663 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: into that and whatnot. But if they hadn't gotten that 664 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: play from the Sean, they wouldn't have been as close 665 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: as they were to winning that game. Yeah right, Yeah, 666 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: so like if they had won that, you would have 667 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: been like that signing just won the game. Yep, yep, 668 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Yeah. And also just um, we 669 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: didn't ask him about this, but he is officially on 670 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: the active roster now. He was pulled off the practice squad. 671 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: The way the practice squad works, you get three elevations. 672 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: He used them up. Now he's obviously the want to 673 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: keep him. He's on the active roster now. Um, so 674 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: we're not gonna have to deal with any Saturday activations 675 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: and wondering if he's gonna be activated on Saturday. He's 676 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: going to be an important piece down the stretch. I mean, 677 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: like he said, I mean he's not playing sixty snaps 678 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: a game, but the twenty snaps that he plays can 679 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: be really impacted full and you know, the Ravens need 680 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: playmakers on offense and I think he's going to be 681 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: an important one down stretch. Ye, totally agree. So big 682 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: game against the Sails week, yep. This is this is 683 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: a chocolate out win for you. You're talking for years 684 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: about how this is Steelers nothing anymore, right, that's right. Uh, 685 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: stick my guns. No, I mean, obviously the calculus changes 686 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: without Lamar on the field as much confidence as I 687 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: have in snoop, Lamar's Lamar, right, and so I think 688 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens offense, which was already scuffling a little bit, 689 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, is a little bit more limited in it's 690 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, with Lamar out there. Even if like what, 691 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Lamar can just have Lamar magic at any time, right, 692 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: Like I think I felt like even going into last week, Yeah, 693 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: the offense wasn't playing particularly well, but like at any time, 694 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: Lamar can heat up, and thus the offense we'll just 695 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: can like take off, right, and um, you know, I 696 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: never really felt like, Okay, it was gonna look like 697 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: the Chief's offense and the Offins offense or the Bill's 698 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: offense or whatever her. But like you just I just 699 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: always felt like it could it could really heat up. Well, 700 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean you did see that in a few games, 701 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: like you. The first half of Tampa was ugly. In 702 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: the second half, it's like, all right, now the offense 703 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: is hunting, you know. Jacksonville, the offense struggled for most 704 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: of the game, and then all of a sudden it 705 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: ends up kind of turning it on late. And I 706 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: mean the game ends up seven in that game, um, 707 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: and so they you know, they made some place late. 708 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: So like I'm with you, like there's there's evidence of 709 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: that that it was like it's gonna turn it's gonna now. 710 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, until Lamar's back on the field, 711 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more of a dink and dunk, 712 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: grinds it out kind of offense, right, and and you 713 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: hope to get a couple of big plays from the 714 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: Sean and or other guys, But like that's just what 715 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be, right, And I think the Ravens need 716 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: to execute well in those under those conditions, right, They 717 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: need to I think run the ball better, which will 718 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: put them in more manageable down in distance situations. They 719 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: haven't been running the ball at this same clip as 720 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: they were early and called runs with the running backs 721 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been quite as effective as it was earlier. And 722 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: now teams that are devoting a lot of resources stopping that. 723 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of Ronnie Stanley hasn't been on the 724 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: field for the past two and a half games. We 725 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't forget about that. That's a factor. Um. You know, 726 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: once JK gets on the field, whether that be this 727 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: week or or soon. Uh, that all I think make 728 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: a difference too. But you know they need to I 729 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: think run the ball better. Tyler needs to continue to 730 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: play efficient ball, complete a lot of passes, not turn 731 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: the ball over which was a little bit of a 732 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: bugaboo for him at the tail end of last season 733 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: when he stepped in for lamar Um. But he gets 734 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: some out of his hands fast makes you know, quick reads, 735 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: gets the ball out and he kind of keeps the 736 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: offense on track a little bit. But you know, we 737 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: saw a lot of short passes, try to get some 738 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: yak in this past game against Denver. You know, you'd 739 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: like to not be in so many third down situations, right, 740 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: like the Ravens were constantly in third and three, third 741 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: and four, right, which is fine, but you're not going 742 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: to hit all of them, you know what I mean. 743 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: So you know, you to be able to sprinkle in 744 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: a few ten yard gains on first and ten. That 745 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: makes a big difference and helps you move down the 746 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: field more efficiently. Look, I think it'll be challenging to 747 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: do that this week against the Steelers because when you 748 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: get into when you're trying to hit the big play, 749 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: you need time. T J walk come around the edge 750 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: makes that very difficult. That limits the time. And then 751 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: the special is the issue. I mean the Broncos were Yea, 752 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: they were turned on the heat. Yeah, they got a 753 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of pressure. They were turning up 754 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: the heat. And then the other thing too is they've 755 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: got a really good safety and make a Fitzpatrick for sure, 756 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: who you know, missed some time earlier this year, but 757 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: he's back. So their defense is good. The Steelers defense 758 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: is good, and I think it's going to be kind 759 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: of a slog a little bit, which is often the case. 760 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: To be able to run the ball against the Steelers. 761 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: I think you do too, but that's not easy either 762 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: with Cam Heyward right there in the middle of their defense, 763 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: and they've been a little susceptible on the ground. I 764 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: know you and you're always scared of the Steelers, like 765 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: you're always scarred. Okay, yeah, And and and it's been 766 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: four straight okay, and every year you say every game, 767 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: you say with the Steelers, this is an easy win, 768 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: easy easy win. Here I never say that, And now 769 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's gonna be a challenge I 770 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: think is. I think it's gonna be kind of a 771 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: grinded out a December December, Oh for sure. I mean 772 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna be I think, really the Ravens the rest 773 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: of the way, Let's be honest. The defense is the 774 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: strength of this team right now. It's been constructed that way. 775 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: The mid season trade was for roque One. It wasn't 776 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: for a wide receiver that a lot of fans were 777 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: clamoring for. The Ravens have pushed the chips in on 778 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: their defense and said, that's gonna be kind of our 779 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: calling card this year. That's gonna be the strength and 780 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna rely on Lamar in the offense. Well that 781 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: Lamar's hurt, right, and so like you're even more handicapped 782 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: on offense, and so the defense is gonna have to 783 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: carry the load. And you know what, they don't have 784 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: Big Bed out there either. I like the Ravens defense 785 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: going against rookie quarterbacks. I just do Big Bend kind 786 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: of had this he could be the Ravens kryptonite at 787 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: times like he just you couldn't kill the guy, right, 788 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean as many times you plunge the the the 789 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: steak in his heart. You know, he just kept rising 790 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: from the dead, and so he's done. Ben's done, and 791 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: I will be excited to see what this Ravens defense 792 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: doesn't get Marcus Williams back on the field. You know, Uh, 793 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: with this pass rush the way it's playing right now, 794 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: did they get after Kenny pick it a little bit, 795 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: force some turnovers? And how do they play against him? 796 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: That's gonna be I think how they win the game. Yeah, 797 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: I think I think turnovers. It's probably you could say 798 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: this every week, but I do think there's this could 799 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: be a game where the turnovers decided that you know 800 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: Snoop had to pick last week, and you mentioned that 801 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: the interceptions were kind of an issue for him down 802 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: the stretch last year. I think that he's going to 803 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: play efficiently, but you need to avoid the one critical 804 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: turnover that puts you in a really bad spot. And 805 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: so let's say he avoids those and this we all 806 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: I agree that I think yards and points are probably 807 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: gonna be tough to come by both ways. But if 808 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this defense can Marcus Peters. Is 809 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: this the Marcus Peters pick isn't pick six. It's been 810 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: a little while since we see that six, is this 811 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: the week that we see it. I wouldn't met against that. 812 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: I would not, but I would like that very much. 813 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I I do think. I do think that 814 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: turnovers are going to be a big factor in this game, 815 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: protecting the football. That's just what it is. A f 816 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: C North in a grinded out kind of game oftentimes. 817 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens lost the turnover battle against the Broncos, 818 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Like there are all these stats that say the Ravens 819 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: should have lost that came and they ended up pulling 820 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: it out. Um. I think that if you lose the 821 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: turnover battle to the Steelers, it's gonna be really hard 822 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: on the road when that place is rocking and all that, 823 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: I think we can probably guess it's gonna be a 824 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: close game. Twenty two of the last twenty eight games 825 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: between these two teams have been decided by one score. Yeah, 826 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's ridiculous, But one score decides basically 827 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: every Ravens Steelers game, no matter where it is, when 828 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: it is, who the quarterback is all that. It felt 829 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: like that's the every Ravens game for the past two years. Yeah, 830 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: that's that's true. Twenty nineteen. Every game of ours has 831 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: been one score, and most games in the NFL are 832 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: one score. But these two teams have played this many 833 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: close games. Um, they're just built similarly. Um in certain ways. Uh. 834 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: And I think the defenses are both excellent and it's 835 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a fun battle. Totally agree. Well, thanks for 836 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: listening and watching. As always, you can reach us at 837 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net and get 838 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: ready for the Pittsburgh win. Let's go to hide and 839 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: beat him. Baby, you're scared, ain't scared. The Ravens are scared. 840 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: Nobody scared. We're gonna get It's like anymore. Oh yeah, 841 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: that's right, high whatever it's called.