Speaker 1: On this episode of The Command Center Podcast, we recap
Speaker 1: the Patriots win and what can we learn from Mario Brothers.
Speaker 2: And Glass Joe Yes, Fred gets into it with himself.
Speaker 2: Check out who wins.
Speaker 1: That fight and Interned Caroline joins the show to talk
Speaker 1: about how the grass is not always green. Welcome into
Speaker 1: the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Santana
Speaker 1: Moss who ant Tana like, I wish I was as
Speaker 1: cool as you sometimes.
Speaker 2: If you're not watching the podcast, make sure you check
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Speaker 2: the chain today, Tanna? Is that just something we got
Speaker 2: thrown around?
Speaker 3: I don't know what a hundred times.
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, a hundred times.
Speaker 3: And we know what's crazy. I was around, she knew
Speaker 3: what it was.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh yeah, they just proved we buy anything.
Speaker 1: And then and then he's got the cool glasses on.
Speaker 1: So if you're listening on if you're listening, yeah, check
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Speaker 1: then Fred Smooon is also here. Just me, you know,
Speaker 1: but I said I was gonna say something, man like,
Speaker 1: I like that shirt. You got some holes in these jeans?
Speaker 1: Kind of like a younger man. I want to bring
Speaker 1: something up with the fans. You wear a white turtleneck
Speaker 1: that I actually.
Speaker 2: Like a lot.
Speaker 1: But anything that I like from a fashion standpoint, I
Speaker 1: usually it's not probably not good.
Speaker 2: It's probably not good because my fashion sense is terrible.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, they should know that you have
Speaker 4: a fish on your shirt and it looks like he stinks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like it's from whatever whatever purpose it is.
Speaker 1: But well, I was gonna say, fans, Fred wore this
Speaker 1: turtle this turtleneck on the last command center. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: so make sure you check it out on the command centers.
Speaker 2: I would love that.
Speaker 1: I'll wear it and tell me if it's cool. So
Speaker 1: make sure you check out what it is Command Center show.
Speaker 3: It's a mock nick.
Speaker 2: So what's the difference between a mock A turtle goes?
Speaker 4: The mock is halfway. A mock is halfway up the nick,
Speaker 4: not cross the Adams Apple turntil turntail comes all the
Speaker 4: way up the neck.
Speaker 5: When I guess you that month was way up here.
Speaker 3: Job, London ain't got no neck.
Speaker 2: You know this is about you don't bring London to this.
Speaker 2: But but but basically, if you like I want. I
Speaker 2: want to know if it's a cool looking shirt. So
Speaker 2: can we check it out on the Command Center show,
Speaker 2: which comes out on Thursdays. Yes, okay, that's what I
Speaker 2: want to do today.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now that we're done with our fashion requests
Speaker 1: from the fans, let's talk about this Patriots game just happened, right.
Speaker 3: I loved it. You listen.
Speaker 4: I told you my battle was Bill Belichick the mind.
Speaker 4: This was a battle of the mind and EBA's offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: Past the battle of the mines. He and then Sam
Speaker 4: How I really want to see Sam because going against
Speaker 4: Belichick tells me where you're at in your growth and
Speaker 4: in his growth, tells me I can complete the hard passes,
Speaker 4: I complete the routine passes, but I also can make
Speaker 4: the right reads. That's what you got to do against
Speaker 4: the Bill Belichick offense, I mean defense is you have
Speaker 4: to go to where he the weakness is.
Speaker 3: And Sam took it all. I was pleased.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I also thought coming into the game that you know,
Speaker 6: as much as we talked about, Belichick is gonna be
Speaker 6: a little exoetic, gonna make the young man, you know,
Speaker 6: play young, play younger.
Speaker 5: He went out there a little Vanella early.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, he didn't bring as much
Speaker 6: as he but when he brought it, yeah, we was
Speaker 6: we was ready for and Sam, you know, he responded well.
Speaker 3: So that was you know, pleasing to me.
Speaker 6: And it's not only just you know, responding. I want
Speaker 6: to see this offense kind of pick up where they
Speaker 6: left off at the prior week, you know, playing play
Speaker 6: against the Eagles. I felt the offense was very productive.
Speaker 6: They moved the ball down a field. You saw that
Speaker 6: early in this game. And I think anytime you especially
Speaker 6: this time of the year, when you're playing against these teams,
Speaker 6: especially on the road, you need to have control of
Speaker 6: the game, be like you always say, possessing the ball,
Speaker 6: moving the chains, and we did that wherever you will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you bring up a great point there.
Speaker 1: Like Bill Belichick, you know, unlike Wig Martindal, who's gonna
Speaker 1: pressure just like the bus kind of like, oh it's
Speaker 1: first down, Oh cool, Oh it's third and two.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's do it now.
Speaker 1: I think Belichick's a little bit more regulated to your point, Santana,
Speaker 1: so like he was really in this game kind of
Speaker 1: said when we get to that strike zone. So that
Speaker 1: kind of that thirty five to twenty five yard area
Speaker 1: in the field. I'm gonna bring zero, and when I
Speaker 1: bring zero, like, what are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 1: And I thought that Sam did a really good job
Speaker 1: on specifically the johanauny of saying like, hey, man, I
Speaker 1: know this is zero. I know you're probably gonna bring
Speaker 1: six here, so let's make sure we got to tight
Speaker 1: end down. The back is going to stay in. We're
Speaker 1: gonna run a concept attack in the middle of the
Speaker 1: field where there's no post safety. And that's all stuff
Speaker 1: that Ev probably put in the week, but it comes
Speaker 1: down to the quarterback identifying that stuff, and I thought
Speaker 1: he did a really good job of that. You know,
Speaker 1: some of the things that stuck out to me too
Speaker 1: about Sam we're the off schedule plays that he made.
Speaker 1: I like some of that stuff. But also because I
Speaker 1: think everyone's like so quick right now to like annoint
Speaker 1: Sam is, I think there's times where he's vacating clean
Speaker 1: pockets still, right, which is yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, well one of the things I actually doing
Speaker 6: on the post game.
Speaker 2: Show great interview, by the way, check that out.
Speaker 6: I asked him about some of the things I've been
Speaker 6: seeing the last you know, two weeks, is him getting
Speaker 6: rid of the ball early. And I was asking what
Speaker 6: those or it was just something that he's seen from
Speaker 6: over the time of playing, because you know how when
Speaker 6: you play, the only way you can learn is by
Speaker 6: going through it, going through the fire.
Speaker 3: And he said both.
Speaker 6: He said, some of the things are designed, so basically
Speaker 6: what you just talked about seeing it, you know, being
Speaker 6: able to understand it, knowing it's coming, and you have
Speaker 6: a you have a perfect play call, and he knows
Speaker 6: who to go.
Speaker 3: To right now.
Speaker 6: And then at times when he didn't have it designed
Speaker 6: or had it called, he just knew to get rid
Speaker 6: of the football. And you saw that the last two
Speaker 6: weeks it's been really you know, pivotal for our offense
Speaker 6: to continue to stay ahead of the chains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was gonna say, I think to that
Speaker 1: point one of the things you do see is I
Speaker 1: think EV's calling a game that is like it's it's
Speaker 1: nice in terms of variety, right, It's got a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot more quick game, a lot of screens.
Speaker 1: To that point, they've gotten out of the five step
Speaker 1: stuff too much. It's still there, still part of the offense,
Speaker 1: but it's not the cornerstone that it once was right,
Speaker 1: they've gotten to this other stuff. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: that's a great point, right, Offenses evolve right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they do.
Speaker 4: And what people cease to believe, Like I don't know
Speaker 4: why everybody look at coach b Inham and be like, hey,
Speaker 4: you've been offensive COORDINATD for like ninety three years.
Speaker 3: No, Like he's coached his eight game and like its coordinate.
Speaker 3: So he had to grow.
Speaker 4: He had to learn, Sam, he had to learn now.
Speaker 4: They had to learn everything. But everybody wanted because we
Speaker 4: in a microwave society, everybody wanted.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Well, this took Grandma's cook and it took a little
Speaker 4: while for them to get on the same pace. And
Speaker 4: by the way, I seen you pick a buck out
Speaker 4: of your nose and like two minutes ago, yeah, it
Speaker 4: was let's go back here we want and watch him
Speaker 4: slowly pick it out his nose.
Speaker 3: It was sweet.
Speaker 4: But I just thought, I'm watching something grow. And when
Speaker 4: you watch some grow, because I plant things, it's slow growth.
Speaker 4: But guess what when it started to bear fruit, that's
Speaker 4: when you know all the work is done. And I
Speaker 4: think right now they're starting to hit their stride because
Speaker 4: of protection and because the same maturation.
Speaker 3: Then now the growth. I can see the growth now.
Speaker 6: And one of the other things that stood out to
Speaker 6: me too, man, you know we've been harping on, you know,
Speaker 6: just seeing a little more from the run game, and
Speaker 6: AG had some great.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah he did, you know, be robbed his runs.
Speaker 6: But more importantly what I was amazed by it's seeing
Speaker 6: us under center would have fall back. And when I
Speaker 6: saw that, I'm like, and then we ran a couple
Speaker 6: of times with it, and we came with the play action.
Speaker 6: You're like, brother, this is playing football. This is when
Speaker 6: you really going into your bag. You're saying, look, whatever
Speaker 6: you thought he was coming here with baby, you know.
Speaker 6: And even you know, even if it didn't really like
Speaker 6: fool you. You know, if you have to respect you
Speaker 6: have to respect it. And that's what that's what stood
Speaker 6: out to me, that you saw us have better success
Speaker 6: or more success when those guys were dropping seven than
Speaker 6: we did before, you know what I mean, Or when
Speaker 6: those linebackers couldn't really just drop because they had to
Speaker 6: make sure that we were running the ball, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. So that was amazing that that amazes
Speaker 6: me more than anything because now you see the staff
Speaker 6: that offensive staff is really starting come together and know
Speaker 6: what they have about.
Speaker 3: They're from player my number through my human computer, and I.
Speaker 2: Computed that, like you're talking about your own brain and.
Speaker 3: My own brain.
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 4: I literally, I literally said that teams that carry fullbacks
Speaker 4: win ten to eleven games a year.
Speaker 3: And that's just something that's definitely came from your brain.
Speaker 4: Listen, the forty nine Ers, the Ravens, the teams that
Speaker 4: care right now play a physical brand a football and
Speaker 4: they still throw the ball out around it.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to that point, Fred, with actual information, I
Speaker 1: think the teams that are leading the league in rushing
Speaker 1: attempts are also kind of the top teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you get your it's a correlation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a strong correlation. Yeah, So I think
Speaker 2: tennis is your point.
Speaker 1: One of the things about the fullback that I love
Speaker 1: it said, it's just some different stuff for the defense
Speaker 1: to prep form. We got a fullback in, we got
Speaker 1: two tight ends, and we're not just in offset gun.
Speaker 4: And the new school linebacker do not like full backs
Speaker 4: because they are two hundred and thirty pounds. They're not
Speaker 4: LeVar Arrington's, they're not these gold dudes anymore.
Speaker 3: They used to them because they used to.
Speaker 6: Now that's seven on seven stuff running sideway side, you know,
Speaker 6: you know, you know, there's all the good teams have
Speaker 6: these fast, athletic linebackers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, back in our day we had in London.
Speaker 6: Guys that's like gonna be a bowling ball coming down
Speaker 6: coming down here. So I watched that specifically just seeing
Speaker 6: defenses have these athletic hybrid types style linebackers, Guys that
Speaker 6: could play safety, Guys that just you know, have a
Speaker 6: body like you know, we have one our team, Hudson,
Speaker 6: we have you know, Jamie David, all those guys like
Speaker 6: they can play safety and play something different. Now that's
Speaker 6: just saying they might look that way. They're not saying
Speaker 6: that they but most teams have.
Speaker 3: Those guys that just can run.
Speaker 6: And when you get a linebacker, I mean you get
Speaker 6: a fullback and have a linebacker that's not ready to thud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be a long day for that defense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So It'll be interesting to see how much they use
Speaker 1: that moving forward and whether that was just kind of
Speaker 1: a game plan thing. But I do think that's a
Speaker 1: nice wrinkle to bring the offense. And I think Alex
Speaker 1: Arma like, to his credit, brings a sense of physicality
Speaker 1: and toughness basically.
Speaker 2: So I think that's great.
Speaker 1: And then, you know, speaking of physicality and toughness, let's
Speaker 1: talk about that offensive line.
Speaker 2: Fred.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the protection, right, and I do think the
Speaker 1: protection has gotten a lot better. High level thoughts, what
Speaker 1: are you thinking about that group communication?
Speaker 4: I see them identifying the mike, I see them the cadence.
Speaker 4: I see them switching up different things. I see them
Speaker 4: passing off rush schemes. Uh settle I think lost and
Speaker 4: just settles them down. Well, well, maybe they was amped
Speaker 4: up and everybody individually was trying to do their job.
Speaker 3: Now I see them working as the Jackson.
Speaker 4: Five, and when that happens, I think you become a
Speaker 4: stronger unit. And I don't like even on even with
Speaker 4: the fact we talked about the five step drops and
Speaker 4: the deep drops, I still see them forming armor around
Speaker 4: Sam where it wasn't there. And I don't know if
Speaker 4: it's just simple it's replacing Nick Gates lost in but
Speaker 4: Chris Paul, my god man, like this dude is playing.
Speaker 3: Some good football right now.
Speaker 5: He is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's an interesting point about the depth
Speaker 1: of the pocket. And I do think it's helpful having
Speaker 1: Larson in there. I think Chris Paul, I think he
Speaker 1: may he makes some, you know, kind of subtle, like
Speaker 1: subtle mistakes in the run game, like taking a bad
Speaker 1: angle or not sitting on the double team correctly, right.
Speaker 1: But I do think when he's in past protection a
Speaker 1: one on one situation, he sets the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things when you look
Speaker 1: at shorter quarterbacks. And John Kinin brought this up on
Speaker 1: his podcast, and it's something that I heard when my
Speaker 1: tight end coach in UH in Chicago worked with Drew
Speaker 1: Brees and Sanford and New Orleans, excuse me, and one
Speaker 1: of the things he said is like, we want offensive
Speaker 1: lineman that can create depth to the pocket because it
Speaker 1: lets the quarterback see a little bit, right. So I
Speaker 1: think it's like, I think that's an interesting addition. I
Speaker 1: also think the fact they've added more quick game is
Speaker 1: interesting because the offensive line is less leveraged on a
Speaker 1: down to down basis. I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things kind of coming together around when Tyler Larson is starting,
Speaker 1: and so it's easy to say, oh, Tyler Larson is
Speaker 1: the reason they're better, But I think Sam's seeing pressure better.
Speaker 1: I think he's avoiding pressure better. I think EB is
Speaker 1: calling a better game in terms of insulating the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think you're getting some of that leadership from Tyler Larson,
Speaker 1: and I think Sam is also understanding how how defenses
Speaker 1: are trying to attack.
Speaker 3: Them at lost sheer size.
Speaker 2: He's a bigger, wide body guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was going to say wid body guy.
Speaker 6: But it is a coincidence that now you have CP
Speaker 6: and lost in and things starting to look a little better,
Speaker 6: because if you think about it, the last game before
Speaker 6: those guys actually started playing with that giant game, and
Speaker 6: we saw so many mistakes on that offensive line. So
Speaker 6: it makes you just kind of stretch your head a
Speaker 6: little bit to say, is it these two guys or
Speaker 6: is it that this this group you know, the coach
Speaker 6: have had enough and say hey, you know each man,
Speaker 6: like you know, man up, I mean, do your job,
Speaker 6: like we've been talking about that, do your job in
Speaker 6: the last few weeks. It seems to me these guys
Speaker 6: are doing their jobs.
Speaker 1: Something interesting I just want to point out here is
Speaker 1: like I I've been maybe in the minority here. I
Speaker 1: think the offensive line's played pretty good outside of the
Speaker 1: New York game. So I think maybe it's kind of
Speaker 1: if that that is a continuation. They're playing a little
Speaker 1: bit better and it's all these other things. I think
Speaker 1: that's a big one too.
Speaker 6: I just think to it, and I'm not saying that
Speaker 6: Day was playing awful right up to the game. That
Speaker 6: game was the wrong game to have the miscues that
Speaker 6: they had. There was a lot of guys running free,
Speaker 6: and it was like, I.
Speaker 3: Can't wait to play Tommy DeVito.
Speaker 4: Do I tell you that I can't wait to get
Speaker 4: a piece of him?
Speaker 1: And so offensive line skillsis and guys. It was nice
Speaker 1: to see kind of a lot of people get some touches.
Speaker 1: John didn't exposed to play. I mean, he still looks
Speaker 1: like he's, you know, working through some stuff a couple
Speaker 1: of drops early, but obviously exposed to play.
Speaker 2: Is terry with the explosive play?
Speaker 1: And is that just because Sam's playing better, you think, Tennel,
Speaker 1: Or is that just like he said, he's able to
Speaker 1: tap into that potential or what do you think?
Speaker 5: I think a little bit of both.
Speaker 6: I think, you know, yeah, one, Sam is playing better,
Speaker 6: but if you look at some of these throws that
Speaker 6: he's making, we saw these these same throats early in
Speaker 6: the season. You know, we saw him hitting some of
Speaker 6: these passes where you like, how did he get the
Speaker 6: ball there? I mean, so that's that's been being basically.
Speaker 6: I talked about Sam, regardless of winning little loss this year,
Speaker 6: that he has to be guy or has to have
Speaker 6: the you know, the talks that we're saying, this guy
Speaker 6: potentially can be that guy because the throws have made
Speaker 6: us overlook everything else. You know, just seeing this guy
Speaker 6: be decisive with the football and getting into guys, hitting
Speaker 6: guys downfield when they open, that's what give you that
Speaker 6: kind of man.
Speaker 5: Let's put all the other talk behind because he can
Speaker 5: get that, he can.
Speaker 6: Get better with that, he can make he has he
Speaker 6: has the arm that we haven't seen in a long
Speaker 6: time here that can and the moxy because that's the
Speaker 6: one you know, it's one thing.
Speaker 3: That happened to arm.
Speaker 5: But if you're scared to get hit, this guy's standing
Speaker 5: in there. He's doing that.
Speaker 6: So I think a little bit of it It is just,
Speaker 6: you know, Sam getting better, but a lot of a
Speaker 6: lot too, what these guys have been making plays, especially Terry.
Speaker 5: But now you're starting to see the cors coming together.
Speaker 6: Now you start to see guys like Diami Pringle, all
Speaker 6: these guys are.
Speaker 5: Making plays to make these guys prouder.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, his career.
Speaker 4: Lord here, I'll be trying to resigning right now, right now, seriously,
Speaker 4: Like this is when you do these things, you say, all,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a year extension right now.
Speaker 3: For you know, a meal in a half or two,
Speaker 3: and he yeah, why not? Why now? So not?
Speaker 5: So I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 2: Right, So let's I think that's enough offensive talk. I
Speaker 2: think we feel pretty good about whether right.
Speaker 1: Obviously there were the two turnovers, the fumble, the interception
Speaker 1: of the red zone. That's gonna happen. Got a limit those,
Speaker 1: but young group, they'll get better defensively. Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get you know what. I love what
Speaker 3: you did. You beat the people you were supposed to be.
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna give it more from really props
Speaker 4: because Matt Jones stinks the offensive wide receive was stinks
Speaker 4: like it was one of those times where you know,
Speaker 4: do what you're supposed to do with the group you
Speaker 4: were playing against. So I'm giving them props for doing
Speaker 4: what they want to do, I mean doing what they did.
Speaker 3: To the Patriots. But I think the big test offensive
Speaker 3: wise is gonna be with Geno Smith in the Seattle.
Speaker 6: I think I think defensively, we had a great game
Speaker 6: going for ourselves into that fumble was we was up
Speaker 6: ten zip and we could if we could have put
Speaker 6: our defense in a better situation, they would have never
Speaker 6: got on the board because we went zip to them
Speaker 6: scoring that that one little you know, red zone shot. Uh,
Speaker 6: And then they came back and had that long run
Speaker 6: when it looked like jamn or.
Speaker 5: One of the somebody wanted somebody mixed up.
Speaker 6: And I remember watching it on the TV copy seeing
Speaker 6: their rio look disgusted, and James said, my bads, that
Speaker 6: gave me the notion that he did something wrong, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. So not to say that he
Speaker 6: came back and played a better game, but just it
Speaker 6: going to show you how one play can try to
Speaker 6: break the game the whole outcome of the game. So
Speaker 6: that's two plays there, that's a yeah, you know, that's
Speaker 6: us fumming. You know the ball offense with our back
Speaker 6: to the wall, gave the defense, I mean gave their
Speaker 6: offense short field boom.
Speaker 3: They had a touchdown.
Speaker 6: Now it's ten to seven, and then they get that
Speaker 6: we don't do anything offensively. They get the ball back
Speaker 6: and home run hitter, you know, that big run.
Speaker 5: They didn't do.
Speaker 6: Anything else besides that. That guy had sixty something yards
Speaker 6: on that run. That was his sixt time it's all
Speaker 6: time best run, and they ended with one hundred and
Speaker 6: seven yards rushing.
Speaker 5: So you know, you look at stuff like that. Our
Speaker 5: defense played well.
Speaker 6: You know, yes, Matt sometime had he had more time
Speaker 6: than we were like.
Speaker 3: At times still missing people.
Speaker 6: But to his credit, unfortunately he couldn't hit a wide
Speaker 6: open guy at time. So we kind of left out
Speaker 6: of the unscathed a little bit. But I still feel
Speaker 6: like our secondary getting better. You know, I saw some
Speaker 6: of the things that I've been wanting to see, guys
Speaker 6: up in guy's face, putting hands on them.
Speaker 5: Oh, I was pleased.
Speaker 6: I know, at the same time, it's easier to fall
Speaker 6: into that trap with a team that's not going to
Speaker 6: really push you.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I want to give props to two guys because I
Speaker 4: know they've been under the under the heat the last
Speaker 4: week since we traded our two auf of Russians, and
Speaker 4: that's a casey two Sacks and ay Kate James Hyphen.
Speaker 4: You know, I want to give James Hyphen them some
Speaker 4: love because you know everybody was talking about that the
Speaker 4: two guys we just traded, and forgetting that these guys
Speaker 4: have played three hundred snaps in the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the yeah, I want to
Speaker 4: give them props for saying we ain't feel ins We've
Speaker 4: been doing this.
Speaker 3: We've been doing this a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the other thing I just want to you
Speaker 1: said something about the Tanner Freddie said something about you
Speaker 1: missing open guys. Yeah, I think that's the thing that
Speaker 1: I feel good about this performance. But I'm also like,
Speaker 1: if this is anybody else else like we're gonna be
Speaker 1: We're upset.
Speaker 3: That's at least sixty more yards.
Speaker 1: It's so there's the post that Jaalen Rekord drops. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's the overthrow to uh Douglas on the corner where
Speaker 1: Saint Ju thought he was running a choice and then
Speaker 1: he missed the throw. And then there was the underthrow
Speaker 1: to to the running back where Jamie gets back and
Speaker 1: the knocks.
Speaker 2: The ball down. And there was a couple there was
Speaker 2: probably five of those.
Speaker 1: Those are three that I remember, But I just like
Speaker 1: they need to limit some of that stuff explosives.
Speaker 4: And I feel for kJ Henry though, Okay, I just
Speaker 4: do because it's hard to get that first whatever, first
Speaker 4: touchdown or like first sex, first interception.
Speaker 3: It's just hard.
Speaker 4: He comes out of his first game ever dressing and
Speaker 4: he makes the player play. If we asked you what's
Speaker 4: to play of the game, it's that sec fumble, but
Speaker 4: he comes off on a fake stunt tea around the
Speaker 4: end sex to guy like, I don't know what you're
Speaker 4: supposed to do on defense?
Speaker 1: Another guys, a couple of young guys, Well, you got
Speaker 1: Forbes to the night's job.
Speaker 2: Yes he did, so you know you you watch him
Speaker 2: more than I do. You understand defensive play? Like, what
Speaker 2: did he do well?
Speaker 3: The whole game too?
Speaker 4: He was himself, He was himself, He was aggressive. Last
Speaker 4: couple of weeks he's been timid because he's been trying
Speaker 4: not to make the mistakes instead of trying.
Speaker 2: To want to ask you is it a little bit
Speaker 2: the level of competition too?
Speaker 4: Who most definitely like, listen, if you want to get
Speaker 4: guy confidence, you put him in the ring with glass Joe.
Speaker 4: Now he was the first dude on Mike Tyson punch
Speaker 4: out Glad Joe, that would you be on your companies
Speaker 4: up about whooping glass show? Like, So what we did
Speaker 4: next week was go up there and.
Speaker 3: Beat up on glass Yell. And if that has to happen.
Speaker 4: The week before playing DK Metcalm Jackson, Smith and Sigma
Speaker 4: and Locket.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what you need.
Speaker 4: So I thought it was the perfect time for him
Speaker 4: to get that convenence rolling.
Speaker 5: All you need is one play. I went up on
Speaker 5: you on that.
Speaker 6: You know how you play Mario, you know, and you
Speaker 6: know you don't you get your confidence up like winning
Speaker 6: every you know, saying stage and you ain't seeing Keing
Speaker 6: Cooper yet. You see the other love seeing other live creatures.
Speaker 6: So you gotta get to that guy. And we've been
Speaker 6: putting Keen Cooper on this guy that stop.
Speaker 3: Stop.
Speaker 5: I'm pleased just to see the guy was able to play.
Speaker 6: And I think we should have did this right after
Speaker 6: that that first Equals game we played somebody that he
Speaker 6: should have been playing in the game. We benched him
Speaker 6: for playing playing. I'm just pleased that he was able
Speaker 6: to get back out there and be a part of
Speaker 6: that unit because they need more. They don't just need
Speaker 6: the guys that they have out that, they need everybody
Speaker 6: that we can use. Danny Johnson, all those guys a
Speaker 6: valuable role. And just just to see Forrest be able
Speaker 6: to do what he do. He gotta think about it too.
Speaker 6: This is another game. He got his hands on the
Speaker 6: ball and so like so he's a magnet for the ball,
Speaker 6: showing you that man, eventually this stuff.
Speaker 4: Is I'm gonna complete every one of these catch bingle.
Speaker 4: So think about it.
Speaker 3: Is this our COMPU situation where we comp guys is
Speaker 3: disappoint We're.
Speaker 4: I'm just asking because you brought him up and he's
Speaker 4: a part of the COUMP sigment.
Speaker 2: So I thought, Jason.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we can do it right now. Doing that you
Speaker 7: can produce.
Speaker 3: Don't listen.
Speaker 4: I try to do everyboe. I'm a janeltor to I
Speaker 4: clean up all y'all mess So it's out good.
Speaker 2: That's definitely not true.
Speaker 7: Our listeners understand. We're gonna do comps.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: It's a fun thing that a lot of fans like
Speaker 7: to do. Hey, samhow it looks like this or whatnot.
Speaker 7: So on the list of guys who are gonna come
Speaker 7: because Emmanuel Forbes. You guys want to camp him, I'll
Speaker 7: give you mine real quick. I got something. I think
Speaker 7: he's a lot like Fred Smoot just if he shut
Speaker 7: the hell.
Speaker 4: Up most definitely that's a perfect cump. I would got better.
Speaker 4: I would go Dominique Rogers Cramarti. Also he reminds me
Speaker 4: of Dombinique Rogers, long fast, scringy ball magnet can go
Speaker 4: get the ball, and Antonio Camarti also anybody last named Crammarty.
Speaker 3: He reminds me, Uh, he can go get the ball.
Speaker 4: He finishes at the top of the peak, and that's
Speaker 4: what I'm ready to see this year him finished at
Speaker 4: the top of the ball. But he reminds me of
Speaker 4: of course, myself and all other skin of connerbacks in
Speaker 4: the league with the Carimarti brothers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's fine. Comp comps are
Speaker 1: hard for me because.
Speaker 3: I always think players are mixed with two people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like it's like a little bit
Speaker 1: of mix, right, you know what I'm saying, So like it's.
Speaker 6: A mix, But you also have to know all the
Speaker 6: damn players like he know, Yeah, he don't forget nothing.
Speaker 6: He know everybody know players that's playing it England. We
Speaker 6: don't know what's going on over there.
Speaker 4: Well, when I look at players, I always be like,
Speaker 4: it's a little him and a little him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's interesting because when I think of Antonio Camarti,
Speaker 1: I always think of him as like a big guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he was like six two, he's like two
Speaker 1: o five.
Speaker 3: He wasn't five.
Speaker 4: He was literally like one ninety one. Rogers Commarti was
Speaker 4: he got when he got older, he was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Rogers Commarti is a little skinnier, but he
Speaker 1: runs like he runs different, like there's a there's like
Speaker 1: a law, like a like a length like a hippiness
Speaker 1: to Forbes, and a length in his arms that is
Speaker 1: very unique, kind of like Spidery. So it kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of like like Brandon Browner. But Brandon Browner
Speaker 1: was like two twenty five, but he was so slow.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying Brandon Browner was like skinny. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that's.
Speaker 3: What I say, Richard, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But he's more fluid than Richard Sherman. That's what you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's like this. It's like the
Speaker 2: length of proportion.
Speaker 5: I like. I like your comparisons.
Speaker 6: When it comes to Brown, I think that's kind of
Speaker 6: like almost close.
Speaker 2: I mean from a from a body shape stand, Brown.
Speaker 6: Was slow, slower, Yeah, he was more probably more more physical.
Speaker 2: Way more physical.
Speaker 3: He his his legs weren't the same. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know he was.
Speaker 6: Got you got your back. But he was a great, great,
Speaker 6: great player, but great corner. I think that Forbes had
Speaker 6: that potential to be like him. I don't have a
Speaker 6: guy for him.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't really know.
Speaker 6: I can't really I'm still here scratching my head because
Speaker 6: I went up against a lot of guys and I
Speaker 6: still haven't seen the Forbes in front of me. I
Speaker 6: haven't seen no one with that body type.
Speaker 2: It is interesting because he is he's so unique.
Speaker 1: I mean, like there's a reason why everyone was worried
Speaker 1: about him at draft time because he's like one of
Speaker 1: the smallest players ever drafted.
Speaker 2: But he is.
Speaker 3: Like that way sixty six.
Speaker 6: He looks he looks skinnier in his uniform, like he
Speaker 6: is skinny. Most most guys who come in skinny when
Speaker 6: they put them passed on.
Speaker 3: All right, and pass fields you out.
Speaker 5: He still looks skinny uniform.
Speaker 3: So it's like, okay with them.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, is it one seventy
Speaker 5: five with the past or is it one?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I am I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: him with dog.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but like, but I think to that point,
Speaker 1: like he had a really good game and I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you this before he moved on to the
Speaker 1: next comp is with him, Everyone's gonna say, oh, he's here.
Speaker 1: Now this is like a rival game. But I think
Speaker 1: it's important to like temper that expectation a little because
Speaker 1: you're going against Mac Jones against no receivers. Right, it's
Speaker 1: a good like confidence building game. That's a good pre
Speaker 1: but next week.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be the and guess what every week of
Speaker 4: T So all I'm saying is to the coordinator, throw
Speaker 4: them put him back in the fire, like at one
Speaker 4: point you gotta be baptized by fire in this league.
Speaker 3: Let it happen. But put him in the fire and
Speaker 3: protect them at the same.
Speaker 1: And it's funny, like we were watching We're gonna do
Speaker 1: this in the preview pod which comes out on Friday,
Speaker 1: But you know, watching getting ready for Seattle. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you know, everyone says DK metcalfs
Speaker 1: how I lock it. I feel like this is like
Speaker 1: a low deaf version of the Philadelphia Eagles, Like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like they're not as good as those guys
Speaker 1: that are see what.
Speaker 6: You're saying, and we'll tap into that. Yeah, definitely, what's
Speaker 6: the next one, Jason?
Speaker 7: All right, let's stay with cornerbacks and let's go with
Speaker 7: Saint Juice here. So I'll kick it off. All right,
Speaker 7: So I know how you have AI. Now you can
Speaker 7: type in an AI and it looks slightly off right,
Speaker 7: So Saint Juice reminds me of like an AI version
Speaker 7: of nond Man.
Speaker 3: He's dead on that, he's numbty.
Speaker 4: He's the two reasons size in the fact that they
Speaker 4: don't get interceptions.
Speaker 3: Interceptions, ain't they think they like to know?
Speaker 7: Had one year.
Speaker 3: And that was it.
Speaker 5: He's the one interception h one that went on the picks.
Speaker 7: A lot of past break ups and set Juice as
Speaker 7: second in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Right now. My other come with him is Bobby Taylor former.
Speaker 4: Different Eagles with Troy Bobby Taylor, and Bobby Taylor.
Speaker 6: But Bobby Taylor was he was he's a nasty something,
Speaker 6: I say, But Bobby would get the ball back, he
Speaker 6: would get the picks and he was he was a
Speaker 6: little dirty. So I ain't seen no dirtiness and sing
Speaker 6: because he's Canadian.
Speaker 4: He's a nice guy, right But at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, I see if Bobby Taylor come, but Numbdy
Speaker 4: is most definitely right on.
Speaker 3: That was my.
Speaker 5: Taylor tapped into my.
Speaker 2: Brain like that. It was a a I manipulated though,
Speaker 2: because it's true.
Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, there's like if you looked real closer,
Speaker 7: you see nothing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I say, the only thing about is what I
Speaker 6: when I kind of get I kind of get mad
Speaker 6: at when I see Saint Jews because I told you
Speaker 6: Saint ju is one of my favorite guys on his
Speaker 6: team besides can when it come, especially on the defensive
Speaker 6: side of the ball, I want to see him be
Speaker 6: more aggressive. You want to see him reach out of
Speaker 6: number to touch you. You feel me and I remember
Speaker 6: numb with put he would man, that dude to hold
Speaker 6: me so bad. I'm like, bro yea holding me for
Speaker 6: and then he looked at me. He's quiet as all
Speaker 6: out there. He's not saying much, but hey, some time.
Speaker 6: You gotta do what you gotta do, and that's what
Speaker 6: needs to do.
Speaker 2: He's by the way, but that's why to that point though,
Speaker 2: I think was a good comp. But I also think
Speaker 2: Saint Juice is so much better athletically in the short
Speaker 2: area than was. Like, yeah, he was stiff and like Saint.
Speaker 3: Juice is like inside, there's quick shuffle to be sixty three.
Speaker 3: He was that quick shelf.
Speaker 1: I get you, but I like that he's got that
Speaker 1: you can play in the slot. I'm talking about Saint Juice.
Speaker 1: He's got that quick turnability. I feel like, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the comp, but I do think he's a
Speaker 1: better athlete than.
Speaker 7: All Right, let's go to the other side with Jahan.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: This is a hard one, right, So I call him
Speaker 7: the anti Logan Paulson, And the reason I call him
Speaker 7: that is everything Johan's good at Logan was not good
Speaker 7: route running, good hands, fast.
Speaker 3: Switch, quick ability. Yeah yeah, so my company.
Speaker 1: Let me just push back on that one second. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not the best route runner, Tanna, we all know that.
Speaker 1: But you know he's averaging Yeah, he's averaging fifteen yards
Speaker 1: to carry. There was a year where average fifteen yards
Speaker 1: of catch just for the record. So even though it
Speaker 1: wasn't always pretty, and I made everything with.
Speaker 3: You, kid, I think it was. I'm not throwing you no.
Speaker 3: I know you're great at what you did.
Speaker 1: No no hurd feelings here. But the anti Logan Pulson
Speaker 1: is pretty.
Speaker 2: That's pretty right.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 4: I always looked at you as a Brokesman's j NOVICI
Speaker 4: poor man j nochick, the Jill Jake Nochick.
Speaker 2: Wrung from my body, just a blunt instruments, I would.
Speaker 4: Say, jo Hun reminds me of there's always two players.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be two players.
Speaker 3: I hear you, all right, I had to check ike
Speaker 3: all the time. All right, Well.
Speaker 2: I killed what was a very good Florida and New
Speaker 2: York Giants, New York Giants, and he coached me here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I hear you with a mixture
Speaker 4: of Reggie.
Speaker 2: Wayne, Reggie Wayne.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well see, he's gonna think about it.
Speaker 2: What's that a corner?
Speaker 4: It's a corner. The one thing about Reggie he had
Speaker 4: the ability to beat you deep, but the threat of
Speaker 4: being you deep was never in the back of your
Speaker 4: mind all the time, just like your hunt. Like when
Speaker 4: I if I'm checking your hunt. I'm worried about fifteen
Speaker 4: yard Diggs. I'm worried about uh seven routes. I'm worried
Speaker 4: about everything else. But then the to beat me over
Speaker 4: the top, I'm not really worried about, but to wrap
Speaker 4: me up. I believe those two would rap anybody up.
Speaker 4: And that's what I get.
Speaker 6: Your hunt, Johan great routes, quick twitch ability, Reggie ain't
Speaker 6: quit twitched. Reggie more of a proto type of cool receiver.
Speaker 6: Taller like you know he has, even though Reggie might
Speaker 6: not not that taller. He's not eleven, but his body
Speaker 6: make him look like he's six one. But he ain't
Speaker 6: had nothing like that. Rain is five hard, like a
Speaker 6: guy you could put in the back field. You can
Speaker 6: move in motion that I can't move your hand. None
Speaker 6: of them places.
Speaker 3: Quick twitch. I can't put him in the backfield. He
Speaker 3: ain't personal hobby boy.
Speaker 6: You ain't nothing like them? Who said he personally hard?
Speaker 6: I say he Reggie ain't.
Speaker 4: But he damn sure ain't no person hobby person. You
Speaker 4: just saying put him in the backfield. Say you can
Speaker 4: see him.
Speaker 3: I can move Reggie around.
Speaker 5: You cannot.
Speaker 6: You can't put him in motion and do all that stuff.
Speaker 6: He's a he's an extra receiver.
Speaker 3: Put him out there. That's what he was used that.
Speaker 3: I don't mean you can't use him as that.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 6: I'm telling you from just the years of playing and
Speaker 6: then watching him play in the NFL. When Reggie was
Speaker 6: on the team with Marvin Harrison, who they moved around?
Speaker 9: Mar what the quicker guy?
Speaker 6: Why not moving because I got an X receiver. If
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have two of those guys, so put like this.
Speaker 6: If I'm on that team with Marbles.
Speaker 4: I remember I played against all of them. If I'm
Speaker 4: on that team with Marvin Harrison, some defensive players.
Speaker 3: If I'm on that.
Speaker 6: Team with Marvin Harrison, right, if Stantam Malls get drafted
Speaker 6: to the coach and me and Marvin Harrison is on
Speaker 6: the team together, are.
Speaker 3: You going to move one guy around or you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Move both of us?
Speaker 6: If you can do that, If you can do so,
Speaker 6: if Reggie was able to be able to be that
Speaker 6: guy they put him because he was great at being
Speaker 6: just station him right there to eat. I don't have
Speaker 6: a com for him. I don't see no other guy
Speaker 6: like him. I say, when it comes to route running,
Speaker 6: he's very precise. I mean, Reggie is a great route running,
Speaker 6: so I'm not saying he's not good right run I needed.
Speaker 2: But you just have a different body.
Speaker 6: Type, different body type, you know, hands like Reggie, great hands,
Speaker 6: great hands.
Speaker 5: But he's saying, like Reggie Wayne.
Speaker 6: As if I look to say I look at Johanna,
Speaker 6: look at Reggie, I'm like, no, I'm not looking at No,
Speaker 6: I'm looking at and looking.
Speaker 3: At for both of them is the same.
Speaker 5: Because nothing to change faster than Reggie Wine.
Speaker 3: He's not a threat, is it.
Speaker 2: Reggie bigger though, is a bigger I was gonna I
Speaker 2: was gonna say, Isaac Bruce was my com There you go,
Speaker 2: Isaac Bruce is Mike.
Speaker 5: I can give you Isaac more to hold that. Bruce,
Speaker 5: I say, Bingo, you more.
Speaker 9: To guys better than my playorite.
Speaker 3: Reggie beat you up with your check Reggie.
Speaker 4: And if I had to check Reggie playing, you dropped Johns.
Speaker 3: You just me have a stopping guy.
Speaker 2: You just said, Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt.
Speaker 6: Saying he more Tory Holt than and that's a and
Speaker 6: that's a and that's the spot on.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give him spot on.
Speaker 6: You said, I think I think he looks like a
Speaker 6: little bit of he looks like a little bit of
Speaker 6: both of those guys.
Speaker 5: But I was lean towards Tory Hope Great was lethal
Speaker 5: and that's what Johann can be.
Speaker 3: Supposed to be a Hall of fame. I don't know
Speaker 3: what they're waiting on route running hands.
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's that on No, that's that.
Speaker 9: I would give you that, Reggie.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm like, Like I said, I have a
Speaker 4: guy because I look at because I know my brain,
Speaker 4: I want to scale guys together. I look at how
Speaker 4: would I try to stop? And I would try to
Speaker 4: stop them to say I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: So he got beat that week when you played Johann,
Speaker 6: because if you just put him like it's a Reggie,
Speaker 6: you weren't read about Regie getting past you.
Speaker 5: Johann Speed is deceptive. People don't think he can run
Speaker 5: and get passion. Then he gets back.
Speaker 4: Well, what I'm saying is, if I'm playing Jahann, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna force him to beat me deep, I'm gonna snug everything.
Speaker 4: We get what they're gonna have to do that that's
Speaker 4: what you're gonna have to do, all right.
Speaker 6: I love that torri Ho com I love that one
Speaker 6: that was that's my man, you said, Bruce, they looked
Speaker 6: like he looks like a little bit of both of
Speaker 6: those guys.
Speaker 3: Honestly, Bruce was witchy.
Speaker 6: Look to you guys, hey, and you know what's so
Speaker 6: good about that toy was the same way you didn't
Speaker 6: think Tory was running and he was. So that's the
Speaker 6: Johann right there. That's dead all all right, we got
Speaker 6: just it's pretty good at this. But he just wanted
Speaker 6: to get mad for nothing.
Speaker 5: Look, yeah, boy, I got rid over them.
Speaker 4: Come down, I next.
Speaker 7: Deep breast everybody. We're all friends friends, okay, and next
Speaker 7: in uh and last is gonna be Sam Howe. Okay,
Speaker 7: so we're gonna get get Fred.
Speaker 2: He's gonna say, I know, I know what, I know what.
Speaker 2: Friend's gonna say.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna friend. I almost shock you.
Speaker 2: No, you're not Tony Romo.
Speaker 7: Well, you guys are saying you have to combine people, right,
Speaker 7: so so I want to combine, but not quite so
Speaker 7: it's like rookie Josh Allen. But if Josh Allen was
Speaker 7: trying to be Patrick Mahomes, it's not a commedy.
Speaker 3: God, he's trying to.
Speaker 2: Do like it's stylistically, it's like a feel, it's like
Speaker 2: a field.
Speaker 7: He's like making kind of those rookie mistakes.
Speaker 2: And I like that because his day, Yeah, so mine.
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound really dumb, but just stick with
Speaker 1: me for a second. Just just just go on the
Speaker 1: just go on this journey with me. So obviously there's
Speaker 1: a Drew Brees in there because he's a small guy.
Speaker 1: He sees that he's got this like ability. But I
Speaker 1: also Drew Brees and Tim Tebow for whatever reason, when
Speaker 1: I watched him play and watch no, when I watched.
Speaker 9: Him listen to your boy for a second, when.
Speaker 10: I watched him run, it reminds me when I when
Speaker 10: I watch him run, it reminds me so much of
Speaker 10: Tim Tebow because he's got this like great contact balance.
Speaker 10: Is this bigger, kind of like kind of thicker body guy.
Speaker 10: You know, it bounces off of guys. And I think
Speaker 10: there's a mobility that he has that is encapsulated in
Speaker 10: Tim Tebow's game that's not encapsulated in Drew Brees' game.
Speaker 10: So I'm saying, if you mix them together, Drew Tebow,
Speaker 10: Drew Tebow is what you get.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what you're looking at and maybe
Speaker 1: the arm talent's probably better than Drew Brees. So maybe
Speaker 1: that's where.
Speaker 2: It's like so easy to say it's so easy to
Speaker 2: be like Mahomes because that's what it reminds me of.
Speaker 2: But I do think if you were to mix Tim Tebow,
Speaker 2: like the running.
Speaker 1: Ability, the body structure with Drew Brees and kind of
Speaker 1: that accuracy that in the pocketability, I think you're getting
Speaker 1: towards something. But again, like I like Jason's because there
Speaker 1: is something mahomes in about what he does, and that's
Speaker 1: it's so easy to say that. But I was just
Speaker 1: trying to say, how do we get there without say.
Speaker 4: Tony has Bag because he reminds me a little bit
Speaker 4: of Tony Romo and he reminds me of Tim Hasselback.
Speaker 4: Why because you know what, Tim didn't get his props, man,
Speaker 4: but Tim did. He made right, Yes, he out of
Speaker 4: Tim hasse Back. He made the regular look easy. Like
Speaker 4: he would throw these out.
Speaker 3: Routes and just throw them, throw them.
Speaker 4: He'll throw these slant routes and just nothing special about you.
Speaker 4: Like people look at say him, they say, ah, nothing
Speaker 4: specially about him, but he damn good. Say his arm strengt. Well,
Speaker 4: you know Tim could throw the ball around your and Tony.
Speaker 4: Listen to me, man, Well he looks physically like Tony
Speaker 4: to me, you know, built like him, has a cannon
Speaker 4: for him, has some escapability in the pocket. A better
Speaker 4: athlete than you think he is. Uh So, I go,
Speaker 4: Tony hasselback.
Speaker 1: But also I think, like, just to kind of double
Speaker 1: down on that, I think the arm talent with Sam
Speaker 1: is so unique.
Speaker 2: Like the quick release it.
Speaker 1: He did, but like he didn't have the big arm,
Speaker 1: like he has a quick release and like you know,
Speaker 1: with the ball got out of his handswe but he
Speaker 1: didn't have the ability to like launch the foot.
Speaker 3: You know what Tony did to that.
Speaker 6: A lot of people don't give him credit for, like
Speaker 6: and that's this is something the reason one of the
Speaker 6: reasons why you know, I believe that quarterbacks make receivers
Speaker 6: and make them a little more special than what they
Speaker 6: make him. Battle man, he's throw those backs. He knew
Speaker 6: how to get thrown you. He was the first open
Speaker 6: every if if man what the dude name was, das
Speaker 6: Brian was stride for stride where everybody he ran never ran,
Speaker 6: and Tony would just throw them short and he come
Speaker 6: back the highest point.
Speaker 5: So I loved at about Tony.
Speaker 6: That's why I used to tell folks when I was playing,
Speaker 6: he was go up against Tony and I hear so much.
Speaker 6: You know, they was giving him someone flak. I'm like,
Speaker 6: give me Tony for what I did. I'm gonna put
Speaker 6: up numbers. So I'm not good at this. I'm not
Speaker 6: even trying to compare them with nobody because I ain't
Speaker 6: thinking like that right now. It can't come off the
Speaker 6: top of my head. But I've been stuck on Tony.
Speaker 6: You've been talking about that from I just see something battle.
Speaker 6: You know, I can say Tony if I had to
Speaker 6: compare two guys, Yeah, Tony and the guy that we
Speaker 6: drafted here in two thousand left it and he was
Speaker 6: like a backup forever. Now I see him on the
Speaker 6: NFL network, James Something Daniels.
Speaker 5: Oh, Chase Chase Daniels.
Speaker 3: You're talking about it, had a great career backing up Chase.
Speaker 5: J Chase Daniels had a nice ball, right. He had
Speaker 5: a kind of body.
Speaker 6: His body was like yeah, I'm saying like, so when
Speaker 6: I look at when I look at Sam and Pass,
Speaker 6: I'm like, damn. He like Chase Daniels, but then he
Speaker 6: goes out there and he plays on Tony Romo's type
Speaker 6: of style.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Chase wasn't that fast. He had a good ball, but
Speaker 6: he was short as hell. So but those two guys
Speaker 6: are kind of combined.
Speaker 3: Sprinkling a little smoking Jay Cutler right there. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, spreaking little smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 5: You're right.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like, you good at this, though, Fred,
Speaker 6: because you one of the guys that just know everybody
Speaker 6: in the league. Fred knows every I don't care if
Speaker 6: you played he was a damn long snapper or or.
Speaker 3: Eating all right, one of my favorite red snappers.
Speaker 1: I love the Red But I got a question real
Speaker 1: quick though. So I feel like those cops are good comps.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're missing the arm town a little bit.
Speaker 3: Jake Colin.
Speaker 6: That's why I put the color. Jay got a j
Speaker 6: Candler had candy. I know you hate this in on
Speaker 6: the Hall. The Hall picked him on all us got
Speaker 6: one quarterback we love.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 4: My quarterback was Brett Farr. I picked out Brett Farr
Speaker 4: five times because I love playing against.
Speaker 3: Him, because he's gonna give you a shot. And he
Speaker 3: the tight guy. You picked him off. He get mad.
Speaker 3: He coming right back.
Speaker 4: So you might get a two picker against bred.
Speaker 6: Hey, I remember that game, and that was you was
Speaker 6: still here in seven We went up there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Sean had.
Speaker 3: No Sean had almost had five five picked two of them.
Speaker 3: He picked two of them, and he picked three.
Speaker 4: He picked two, I believe, and dropped three like I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: like he suposed to picked him up.
Speaker 3: He was not. He throw he was he was like
Speaker 3: baiting him to throw the ball.
Speaker 4: He was looking over and turned around, going right over
Speaker 4: the field getting the ball.
Speaker 2: All right, that's been a fun game to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. And so I think that's gonna do it
Speaker 2: for our comp segment on did.
Speaker 7: You mean Tim or Matt Hasselback.
Speaker 4: I mean here, I mean Matt played with Tiam Yeah,
Speaker 4: Tim on the hassle back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that actually paying quarterback to so intern Carolina.
Speaker 2: Intern Carolina, she just.
Speaker 7: Got a cop for Sam Carrol.
Speaker 2: You got a cop? What we got? What we got?
Speaker 2: Caroline on the top of the head.
Speaker 8: But you guys are just like speaking about it, just
Speaker 8: kind of giving a little like Joe Burrow rookie season
Speaker 8: like lines somewhat shaky, but like a lot of promise
Speaker 8: in his plays.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they numbers are the same.
Speaker 4: I watched they put their numbers beside each other and
Speaker 4: they are the same right now the week eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's even there though, Like there's no arm.
Speaker 2: Town's not this.
Speaker 1: It's just such a unique arm that Sam has. You know,
Speaker 1: I think I think statistically, you're probably right on there, Caroline.
Speaker 3: But Caroline's pretty good. I know.
Speaker 2: Caroline is a football fan.
Speaker 7: Future, big, future, big football fan. The reason she's here
Speaker 7: is because she's actually a Steelers fan. Steel so she's got,
Speaker 7: like from the outside perspective as a fan from another team,
Speaker 7: what she sees in Sam Howe. That's why we brought
Speaker 7: her in.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 3: Well, she like Pittsburgh. They used to like unattractive.
Speaker 1: Courts, So I mean, yeah, I guess that's a good point.
Speaker 1: So Caroline, So, Caroline, you I was watching the game
Speaker 1: with you the other day and you were forreaking out.
Speaker 1: I was trying to watch the Commanders and you kept
Speaker 1: asking me like, you know, it's Kenny Pickett bad at football?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: And I was like what, So, how do you feel
Speaker 1: as a Pittsburgh fan, Like would you would you rather,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Sam Howe.
Speaker 2: Or Kenny Pikett be your starting quarterback in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8: I don't want to be a hater. First of all,
Speaker 8: I never said I didn't want Yeah, you kind.
Speaker 3: Of hate it.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you did say that. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: you were you were, You were stressed. You were stressing
Speaker 1: about Kenny Picker.
Speaker 8: You do stress, like honestly, because I don't think the
Speaker 8: JOMP has been quite main Like you just finished seventeen games,
Speaker 8: like essentially his first year because he kind of came
Speaker 8: in late last year. I felt so much promise last
Speaker 8: year going into it. And this is also just like
Speaker 8: a Pittsburgh fan thing. But like our record within these
Speaker 8: past seventeen games is like twelve and five, which is
Speaker 8: obviously a great record, but like this has been backed
Speaker 8: up by a insane defense, like making unbelievable plays. I mean,
Speaker 8: call it what you want. They're definitely top five, but
Speaker 8: I put them at top three because of the amount
Speaker 8: of splash plays they had. Defense Right about the defense,
Speaker 8: but I'll flip it back.
Speaker 2: I'll flip it back, but my point at commanders back.
Speaker 8: So over the weekend, I actually told my dad, I said,
Speaker 8: if we had Sam Howell right now, we would be
Speaker 8: record like honestly, we we really would, like I don't
Speaker 8: know about it, undefeated we've played. Yeah, So that was
Speaker 8: one of my That was one of my notes here
Speaker 8: that I think definitely helps Sam. Is it like b
Speaker 8: Rob has been a lot more consistent. We had our
Speaker 8: best run week this past week, which obviously it's super
Speaker 8: helpful to him.
Speaker 2: Like with n and we're talking about Kenny Pigot, Yeah.
Speaker 8: They're a great one two punch, but like the line,
Speaker 8: just things have not been going they started Broadwick Jones probably.
Speaker 1: So in terms of in terms of optimism, would you
Speaker 1: be more optimistic about somehow or Kenny Picket?
Speaker 8: I think so, Like here's my problem with Picket. I
Speaker 8: don't think he has the talent to like make up things.
Speaker 8: So like if his feet, you know, he's not balanced,
Speaker 8: his mechanics aren't right, He's not going to make a
Speaker 8: throw like Sam made when he was like about to
Speaker 8: get sacked.
Speaker 5: This past weekend, I found out.
Speaker 4: Did you see can it pickt new commercial for Burger
Speaker 4: King with him holding.
Speaker 2: A stop him in the draft.
Speaker 5: He got that why he wears small hand guy it's.
Speaker 1: Like you had to remeasure his hands, do the whole
Speaker 1: thing to see a specialist like cut liment and his
Speaker 1: thumb to extend his finger, he had to get his
Speaker 1: hand lengthened.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I like that.
Speaker 1: You brought up the like the r talent the talent
Speaker 1: there right, and you think Sam's got that talent? How
Speaker 1: important do you think that is?
Speaker 8: I mean, okay, well think about it, at least for
Speaker 8: the AFC. How many stacked quarterbacks, Like we're kind of
Speaker 8: in a bit of trouble when you compare. I'm just saying,
Speaker 8: like our team can overall be great, but like, is
Speaker 8: he gonna win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Over the homes a little bit that Canada?
Speaker 8: Though, to know that was another point like to that,
Speaker 8: like on top of just like stacked quarterbacks being in AFC,
Speaker 8: he be's great, Like it's obviously very apparent.
Speaker 6: I just feel the number one you don't have to
Speaker 6: worry some much. They're putting a lot of pressure on
Speaker 6: but it's not.
Speaker 4: But think about it with Pinket, you didn't bring up
Speaker 4: the fact that, of course he had to live hands
Speaker 4: in the in the not strong m but when you
Speaker 4: play a FC ball in the North you playing outside?
Speaker 3: What that's the key.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be playing in bad weather, especially in the
Speaker 4: winter time, in every game he played Cincinnati Baltimore does
Speaker 4: not matter.
Speaker 3: That's a big situation.
Speaker 2: Are you push back on Fred? Say say what you say,
Speaker 2: say what you wanted to say. This is Fred Fuller,
Speaker 2: Who are there with that? Is that your pretty?
Speaker 8: I mean he's got seven fourth quarter comebacks. He's good.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not what you say.
Speaker 2: You're going to play, going to challenge.
Speaker 8: I don't think he's not good.
Speaker 2: I just worry about his ceiling.
Speaker 8: I worry about his ceiling. Yeah, und percent, Like I
Speaker 8: think Sam, the potential is there. Like literally today we're
Speaker 8: supposed to be recording something with him, but EB has
Speaker 8: another quarterback meeting. Like I think just them to being
Speaker 8: on more of the same page versus like you guys
Speaker 8: know the Canada debacles, like this is not a secret,
Speaker 8: like the aren't great.
Speaker 3: I want to you some more.
Speaker 5: I think I want to hear a little more of show.
Speaker 3: If we get fine, if we get if we get
Speaker 3: about the weather.
Speaker 2: Five intern Caroline comments this week, we'll we'll get it
Speaker 2: going too.
Speaker 8: Say one last thing about Sam absolutely not now go ahead,
Speaker 8: Like with o line situations. I felt like collectively, just
Speaker 8: the Steelers on line and the Commanders a line this
Speaker 8: week played their best games like quarter line as a unit.
Speaker 8: I think Sam hangs in the pocket way longer. Like
Speaker 8: I know he's taking a lot of sacks, but Kenny
Speaker 8: rules in the sax. I'm just he doesn't.
Speaker 2: I mean they both have done that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not good like that.
Speaker 1: But hey, but but I think I think she's she's
Speaker 1: she's expressing her reservations about Kenny Pickett. I think there
Speaker 1: are some things that Kenny Pickett does well. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter comeback thing, right, they are there? There
Speaker 1: is he a top team there winning What's what's the
Speaker 1: record right now? It's four and five five, five and four, five,
Speaker 1: five and three, So like they're like, that's a good
Speaker 1: team and he's doing a good job of helming that ship.
Speaker 1: I do think he's somewhat limited by Matt Canada because
Speaker 1: they don't throw over the middle of the field at all.
Speaker 3: You have thought they had to losing record the way
Speaker 3: she did described him. All I'm saying, is he a
Speaker 3: top team quarterback.
Speaker 2: In the AFS?
Speaker 8: I don't think so, which is why I don't quarterback.
Speaker 3: At Jackson Joe Burrow. Really, I am a quarterback in
Speaker 3: his own.
Speaker 1: To v.
Speaker 3: Watson.
Speaker 2: You think Watson is better than him? I think, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: Watson is better than him. Yeah, I think you're talking
Speaker 2: you're talking.
Speaker 3: About Josh.
Speaker 2: Joe. Yeah, quarterbacks better Wow. Yeah that's crazy. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so that'll be relationship.
Speaker 1: But obviously the same how thing, the same hell comp
Speaker 1: would be compelling, Like if he was in Pittsburgh, what
Speaker 1: would that look like?
Speaker 2: Would they be better to Yeah?
Speaker 8: I mean I think he's flourishing more with e B.
Speaker 2: But I do think I do think they have better
Speaker 2: skill position players here.
Speaker 4: Oh you got George Picks, don'te I mean Donte John Johnson?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Kevin Austin tight end. I don't know who
Speaker 3: they got a tight end? He right right?
Speaker 7: What I'm saying, Caroline knows what's going on. By the way,
Speaker 7: I'm pushing this forward because this is way too much
Speaker 7: feelers too much. I think what we're trying to say
Speaker 7: is Sam Howe is better than Canny Pikett.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they agree in all their places.
Speaker 7: It's not just as fans here we're getting hyped about
Speaker 7: Sam how but other teams are seeing it.
Speaker 2: Too.
Speaker 3: It's my point and one thing I would say too.
Speaker 6: I mean, we get hyped about him, but one of
Speaker 6: the things I hate about what we do is we
Speaker 6: the reason why we we kind of one week we
Speaker 6: want to talk about throw everybody away, and the next
Speaker 6: week we you know, we found out got because we
Speaker 6: only motion and roller coasters, just as what as his team.
Speaker 5: So I say, let these guys play. You know, I
Speaker 5: don't you know, I go into the games now.
Speaker 6: I'm a little superstitious and this I want to basically
Speaker 6: make make a comment about what I've been doing the
Speaker 6: last few weeks because London got on me this past
Speaker 6: weekend talking about ya gonna do that. Nah, I'm not
Speaker 6: finna sit here and lie to you that I believe
Speaker 6: that you can win when you can't.
Speaker 5: Like my man Logan, Logan said they won't gonna win.
Speaker 5: Last week, we won. That's how you feel.
Speaker 3: I thought he was a company man.
Speaker 5: So but you know what I'm saying, sometimes you have
Speaker 5: to tell no, that was last week.
Speaker 3: You know, you picked us lose a couple of.
Speaker 2: I have to have to pick like six shelves.
Speaker 3: But honestly, there's nothing wrong with that. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is I want to tell them every
Speaker 6: week that I wanted to win. But that's like that's line. Truthfully,
Speaker 6: I don't believe it. So that's why I don't pick
Speaker 6: who's gonna be the win. I said, I want to
Speaker 6: see a great game. If you give me a great
Speaker 6: game and then the fourth quarter, last team standing, whoever victorious,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be okay because I saw a great game
Speaker 6: and that's all I want to.
Speaker 5: See going forward.
Speaker 7: The grass isn't always greener. I think it's the point here.
Speaker 5: Someone just told me sometime the grass is greener, and
Speaker 5: you know what that tells you.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of Hey, you know, I'm with it.
Speaker 9: I can bag it up, but we're gonna keep a
Speaker 9: little more.
Speaker 7: We were just talking about London. Enter Caroline. She knows
Speaker 7: her stuff. As we've been talking about. She took it
Speaker 7: down London and the.
Speaker 2: Upset this week.
Speaker 5: You know, I changed it.
Speaker 8: I saw I was playing London.
Speaker 3: We had a lot of people have victor reason this
Speaker 3: week too, include me. I got.
Speaker 2: Oh did you oh? Yeah?
Speaker 3: By one point at the buzzle, you know I'm.
Speaker 2: Going, let's so who is on your team and we'll
Speaker 2: talk about our game because I don't know what that was.
Speaker 8: This week speaking of Steelers, I was like, screw it.
Speaker 8: Start Pickings and Deyanta huh And I'm sure you guys
Speaker 8: saw Picking Like yeah, he had like nothing, he has it.
Speaker 2: He had the touchdown that he was out of bounds
Speaker 2: on right.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, about like a mile and a half even
Speaker 8: though we had like a lot of space six yards. Yeah,
Speaker 8: moving on. So I thought it was not looking good
Speaker 8: because you guys know London has been like.
Speaker 2: Just thrusting people.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and pretty much Pep Barmouth has been hurt or
Speaker 8: he's on, he's like on, I are kid all to bye.
Speaker 8: So I was like, this is not looking good already.
Speaker 8: We have two sitting players and pretty much just London's
Speaker 8: team just like kind of flopped.
Speaker 5: It was on London's they took a break, they had early.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Justin Herbert only had seven.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah he had that kind of a quiet game. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Cooper Cup also super low points.
Speaker 2: With that offense. Now without Mats Stafford is going to be.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, well he has both of them.
Speaker 2: So like I think that that's going to hurt him bad.
Speaker 8: I think sure, Ceedee Lamb had a good game Camara
Speaker 8: and I had Barkley so like they were pretty pretty
Speaker 8: even only had so like my tight end was out,
Speaker 8: but his tight end had only two point nine points.
Speaker 2: That was that was That was a crazy kind of
Speaker 2: Lady went at the game.
Speaker 3: Stop Taylor went at the game. Here you go. I
Speaker 3: had Terry.
Speaker 2: Like it just washed.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like mine.
Speaker 2: So where was the biggest Where was the biggest point
Speaker 2: differential for you quarterback? So you you had who I had?
Speaker 8: I have Josh Allen, but I had something today. I
Speaker 8: don't know if this stream is like on Twitter that
Speaker 8: he is so far in fantasy. See, he's like the
Speaker 8: best quarterback to.
Speaker 2: Have because he does so much for that offense. He
Speaker 2: runs a lot. He's don't get to lead him, so
Speaker 2: that's interesting. But yeah he runs and then Fred, you
Speaker 2: beat me? Yes, I did beat you?
Speaker 6: Was it?
Speaker 2: Did you actually set your lineup this week? Did you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Defensive struggle looks like no, no, it wasn't defensive scrub.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who's explosion. I know I've got
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. That's the only person I know on my team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he he didn't have any touchdowns this week.
Speaker 7: The final score was one ten point six two to
Speaker 7: one oh nine point ninety eight, so it was even
Speaker 7: less than a point.
Speaker 3: Wow, you'll need but a ton to get the big.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think what lost you? The game logan is like, yeah,
Speaker 7: Calvin Ridley and who does want to buy? You would
Speaker 7: want if you just put one.
Speaker 3: Player in there.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know Calvin was on my team. Yeah
Speaker 2: that's good. I like Colvin and we played together in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: That's too bad.
Speaker 3: Who was my highest point getters? Uh?
Speaker 2: Jacobs had a game this week?
Speaker 3: He was what was he likes? Had a good game?
Speaker 3: Like anybody?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Stop like every digs in the league.
Speaker 7: You know, Joey Sly you got there?
Speaker 2: We go? And how about you? Who'd you lose to? Ryan?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: I got killed.
Speaker 5: I didn't even break a hundred.
Speaker 2: Did break a hundred, so I would have beat you
Speaker 2: this week. Yeah, that's too bad. I should really start saying.
Speaker 3: It was a bad game for Pat Mahomes and man
Speaker 3: Tyree Hill. Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: They paced each other and both of them didn't play
Speaker 6: with a little bit of a defensive battle there. Most
Speaker 6: of my points from those two guys, I mean, Germany.
Speaker 6: Their crowd was out to change. Listen, it won't be
Speaker 6: long Befo. They be having their own pro team over there.
Speaker 1: So hopefully I'll win my h Hopefully I win my
Speaker 1: fantasy game. Yeah, probably not. I'm pretty bad anyway. Probably
Speaker 1: should just know who's on my team. That'd be helpful.
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