WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: We Need Points 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.480 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:19.919 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:25.799 backfield's flooding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.880 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.959 in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:45.360 Shannon Gross. Shannon is not hosting in his Wednesday Day, 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.680 I am Kurt Daniels. I am feeling in the big 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.320 boy chair today for Shannon, our illustrious leader. He's not 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.840 feeling well, says he's might be coming down with the flu. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.520 But I'm wondering if it's uh A couple of weekends 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:01.160 of Mama Gross and Yeah Yeah, they're recovering. Obviously, joined 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.040 by the star of our show, the Great Nate Newton. Sir, 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:05.840 how are you wish? I was great? But I am 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.840 used to be here. We've got Mickey Speck No listen 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.920 in with us, Yes, sir, what are you coming out 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.039 of the bullpen? Yes? All right? Like you to Mickey. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.600 We tried to get just Ted. He's not fish killer anymore. 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.080 He's just Ted. How you get just Ted to come 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.920 on for a little bit? And he was regaling us 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.800 with stories of hunting earlier. But alas we could not 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:35.720 say a ka f k huh, I said, Do I 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.440 dare ask what that stands for? Yeah? You can't. What 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.920 is it saying? Fish Yella? We've got Douglas behind the 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.160 wall back there? How you doing, Douglas? Hey there, you'll 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.600 free jump in today. Without Shannon here, he might actually 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.080 get a chance to talk a little bit. Well, we'll 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.720 see that might not be a good thing. Oh thanks, Mick, Yeah, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.400 you're not in it. Hopefully Shannon's not been hanging around 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:03.280 with a woozya because he was ill today and practice 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.520 I'm starting to go through the Yeah, better watch the 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:11.440 hope somebody sprayed these microphones feeling woozy? Okay, what did 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.919 I say? All Right, you had your chance, Douglas. That's 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.600 just Mike off, that's for Mickey. That's an old school 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.080 newspaper headline right there waiting to be written. And we 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:21.880 we want to be joined by you guys on the 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.880 show today as well, So feel free to call in 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.120 eight eight eight eight five five twenty two ninety seven, 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:32.080 eight twenty two ninety seven. So normally we talk a 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.920 little cowboys offense Eagles defense today. What do you think 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.000 about that? Nick or Mickey? I'm good with that, all right, 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.320 And my question then right off the bat for you 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.080 guys go there yet please okay, let him give us 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.880 the injury report. How did you know that's when you 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.240 say it's something about a woozy. We don't need tec, 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.360 you don't need his TVC. Yeah, at least it's still 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.200 it's not an injury, right, if that's a good thing. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:04.160 Guys that didn't practice, just David Irving, Tavon Austin, Shawn Lee, Uh, 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:11.359 Jeff Swain. I mentioned a woozier. Tyrn Tyrn Smith was dressed, 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.239 he had his pads on, he did all the stuff beforehand, 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.160 and then after they did a couple of their little 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.519 drills and they were actually going to get into something, 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.520 he went outside and he was doing conditioning work with 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.480 strength and conditioning coach Mike Woissick. So at least he 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.960 was dressed, and that's more than he did the prior 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.560 to the Saints game on on Thursday night. So I 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.760 guess that's a step in the right direction. I think 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.240 there's some optimism that he can play, But maybe their 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.360 thought was you guys there's no sense him banging that 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.600 shoulder in pads. You know, if you're gonna do it, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.400 do it in the game. Let's not wasted in practice. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:54.080 So he was he probably I guess they'll probably list 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:58.880 him as limited. Zack Martin was out there, he did 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.600 the early stuff and Jason Garrett said in the press 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.240 comment he probably would be limited. Uh, same with Sea A. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.320 Philo was out there. It has a little bit of 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:15.280 a hank ankle. And then also MALIEK. Collins might be 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:19.640 a little limited. He was still trying to work through. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.440 I guess it was the knee thing he had and 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.400 the good nos he is as Cole Beasley was out 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.120 there and looked like he was getting ready to do 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.320 everything they asked him, So I think there was some 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.479 worry about him with his foot that came out of 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.680 that game, and I think he's he looked like he 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.200 was moving pretty well. He was working on the cards 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:44.360 early and then kind of moved into what everybody else did. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.640 So Tyrn, there you have it. Tyrn is. I got 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.120 the impression that they had hoped Tyrn would be ready 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:51.840 to go. If he's not, are we starting to get 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.520 serious concerns? Well, the last couple. I mean like last 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.479 week when he when they kind of knew he wasn't 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.320 ready to go that early portion of practice when they 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.840 kind of do some skeleton drills, Cam Fleming was out 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.120 there with the first team. He wasn't out there with 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.960 the first team. This time, Tyrone was out there. So 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.239 I think that's a good sign that he's probably moving 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.000 closer and closer to playing on Sunday, and they need 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:21.919 him out there. By the way, David Irving, man, you 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.200 know me me personally, I think he's done for the year. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.200 But what's your feel you a little bit closer to 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.039 the team. Yeah, I look at him as you know, 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.400 when you order an ice cream Sunday, the Sunday is 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.000 pretty good. If you get the cherry on top, sometimes 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:40.680 it's better, right, So I think he's the cherry on top. Yeah, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.840 they're counting on it. Yeah. I mean, it's a high 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.240 ankle sprain and those things are usually four to six 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.040 weeks and then you know, whatever else he's got going on. 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:55.839 Who knows, but yeah, somebody said that they he's been 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.680 seen in the building at least on Monday, which is 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.080 more than I've seen since he left on the scooter. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:06.719 That day kneeling with the bad ankle on the scooter 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.520 one of those little electrical things. So hopefully he's not 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.560 going too fast on it. What's uh, I haven't heard 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:20.279 really a specific timeline on Swam. It was gonna be 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.320 I'm trying to remember, because I was sure was a 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.760 dad thing to say, like, oh, he's not going too 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:32.680 fast for four weeks. Maybe he had to have screws 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.400 inserted into the fracture of the bone in his hands. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.440 And I was told, until the screws come out, he's 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.240 not going to be able to play, even if they 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.279 pad it up, because obviously you don't have much padding 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.640 in your hand back at your hand, so those screws 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.640 have to come out first. So maybe by the end 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.800 of the season, maybe another week or two, and then 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.240 he would see if they could play with a pad on. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:04.080 You know, I just want people I want I want 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.880 people to see how good he is. But you know, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.920 and I said this about five years ago, I said, 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.800 I want people to know how good Sean lives. And 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.120 I don't think Swain is as great as Sean lives. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:22.160 But the injury thing, man, yeah, say, helped saying yesterday 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:26.200 Swains one of the better tight ends in the league. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.320 If you it's it's and Mick probably can name him 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.040 better than I can. But it's four or five great 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.920 tight ends in this league, and then there's the rest 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.200 of the guys, and Swain is at the top of 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.679 the rest of those guys. That's just what I believe. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.160 I don't know what other teams can develop in their 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.160 tight end position. But he run his routes and he's 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.880 better than an adequate blocker, and he run his routes 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.240 and he catches balls. What he does need maybe that 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.720 Kelsey don't need, because Kelsey was by kind of doing 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.800 his own thing for a long time him and grown is. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.160 He may need other pieces around him to where he 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.080 can be a compliment piece. But as a tight end, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.680 as I look at tight ends, he's a good more 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.040 than service was tight end. To me, that's just a 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.680 complete tight end, not just a guy you're going to 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.440 send out in the slot and throw passes to like 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.760 zach Ernst h So, uh yeah, and I think they 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.240 missed they missed his blocking on the line of scrimmage. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.760 You think that, you know, there's so much concern about 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.120 the tight end position coming into this year. Obviously we're 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.959 not getting twenty five twenty seven year old Jason Witten production. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.839 But are we getting the same production we would have 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.600 gotten out of Jason Witten this year? I think they 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:49.000 would have scaled back his snaps uh this year to 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.439 try to preserve him number one. And you know, I 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.079 don't know that you know the last year or so 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.719 that his blocking on the line of scrimmage was what 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.599 he'd been used to seeing. It's came out with like 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.079 two or three games because every year, memmy, be like, 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.199 Jason ain't doing it, and then as the season go on, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.920 you get better and better. I'm like, wow, it takes 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.319 him a couple of games to get warmed up to 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.800 that speed. And believe it or not, because they he 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.800 didn't practice like you know they're saying with SHANNIEMI took 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.520 Shanny one or two games where he just stopped being 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.920 Sean Lee. That happens with time. Yeah, And I think 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.559 that the more that Schultz has played, I think the 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.880 better he's he's become. Yeah, he seemed like a guy 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.199 that they like, almost a wasted traffick and training camp. Yeah, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.440 and again you gotta remember these are rookies and they're 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.360 all of a sudden going from playing against the twenty 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.600 year old guy to thirty year old defensive end. Yeah, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.920 and see Jason, and what that is? This is one 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:54.480 thing I like about Jason. They saw, okay, he ain't 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.679 where we thought he was. And then and instead of 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.520 them see instead of them saying, okay, he's just gonna 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.080 beat him down, they brought him alone. And a lot 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.640 and a lot of people don't like that, but they 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.160 brought him alone. And so now he's starting to come 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:13.520 in Like Blake Jordan, I'm like, I'm like, why is 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.199 they even putting this dude in the field, because you 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.240 know how, you know what I started calling the guy 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.480 seeing man, he's snake bit, He's snake bit. Yeah, but 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.280 now things are starting to come in and sometimes you 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.640 just take that time and uh shouts up. Thing gonna 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.520 be all right, But Swain is better than all right. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.240 And uh and if if we gotta go I don't 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.280 think we have to go out and uh, you know, 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.600 David Hellman may think a little different, or a few 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.240 other guys. I don't think we have to go out 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.840 and make drafting a tight end a priority. I just don't. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.199 I don't believe that. Yeah, I was one of that too. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.760 If we've made so much about the weakness at tight end, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.959 but is it that much weaker than I mean, I 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.640 think the tight if you have one of those guys 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:58.319 the Kelsey's yeah, hearns, Hey, that's great. Yeah. But if 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.240 you don't have that guy and you just have a 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.240 complete tight end, if you get to the end of 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.240 the season and you tell me I didn't make the 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.440 playoffs because I didn't have a good enough tight end, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:11.120 all right, listening, right, Yeah, that's weak. It's only two 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:15.959 tight ends in this league right now, and it's never 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.679 been more than one that you can say, Hey, that 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.719 guy that can get me to the super Bowl. And 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.480 that's just how it goals. I mean, it's been some 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.280 great tight ends that came through these but you still 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.679 needed them outside guys to make that great tight end greater, 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.280 you know, you know what I'm saying. I mean, think 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.480 about what Ernest did the first time around against the Cowboys. Yeah, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.280 fourteen catches for one hundred forty five yards, and they 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.480 really didn't score the get to twenty until that last 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.680 drive when the Cowboys were trying to make them milk 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.920 the clock to down the field. So despite fourteen catches 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.160 for one hundred and forty five yards. You know, with 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.200 a few minutes left in the game, they had thirteen points. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:12:00.200 So because tight end the traditional tight end, and even 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.800 if he in the slot, he still brings the extra 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.760 man into the box. He still you know, people said, 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.199 And the only time he can really help you is 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.360 if he's legit like that. Now, he really helps the 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.800 slot receiver because they got to make this decision on 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.160 on who they're gonna double on the inside. That's why 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.720 I think, now, you know, the outside guy really helps 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.280 Cold Beasley. But if outside in, if we had sway 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.800 somebody that we can just really have in there now 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.520 Cold Beasty, because I'm like, we shouldn't lose on Cold 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.839 We shouldn't, you know. And now I didn't know he 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.480 was hurt, you know. Yeah, he finished the game though, right, 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.520 so that was the good news. But he did kind 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.640 of on the play that he dove for the first down. Yeah, 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.199 he kind of sprained his foot a little bit. But 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.959 I saw him doing the cord work out there and 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.839 he looked like he was moving just fine. It's just uh, 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:59.120 Cold Cold. She was having some outstanding games now, I mean, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.079 going down the stretch man I wanted to be surprised. 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.160 He should have averaged at least five catches, not no. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.600 Five charge. He should average five catches, sixty or seventy 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.559 yards just first downs every game. He should. At this 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.040 point it seems it's obviously because of Cooper his targets 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.360 have dropped though, So yeah, but you gotta remember when 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.200 they was willing and he had the seven hundred yards season, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:26.600 we had witting and Dad's doing well. So h man, 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.640 I believe that you can beat people with a complete 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:37.719 package if you're if you got a Marie Cooper and 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.480 you got Zeke in the backfield and your office line 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.199 is starting to trying to be something. Now, all you 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.640 need is a good slot, a good tight end, and 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.360 a good other receiver. You don't need them great, You 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.400 just need them to be good, be consistent. And I 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.280 think cold Bees is on the upper end of slot receivers, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.439 so we should be. We should. Yeah, because I got 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.240 so helme in it showed a happy out. They meet 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.160 twenty eight points shouldn't be an issue for us. Now, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.520 I mean, do you think I think you're right there? 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.640 I'm right there with you, you know, and as long 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.319 as you as long as you don't keep wasting firsting 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.880 goals at the four and having to kick a field goal, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.400 you know, and that's happened far too many times last 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.120 four or five games. I mean, okay, yes, twenty eight 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.400 points shouldn't be an issue, but it is. So why 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.480 it is at all about the red zone? I mean why? 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.400 I mean, it's what We're still twenty fourth in the 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.640 league in points. Yeah, and I don't know if if 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.520 the New Orleans game was an outlier because the offense 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.400 was starting to roll, you know, the amount of points 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.400 they were producing in the during this four game winning streak. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.600 The other three games the offense was rolling, the guy's 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.000 numbers have been high. U So I mean yeah, I mean, 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.960 what are you want against Washington? Twenty two against the 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:03.200 Falcons points and then what was the other seven? And 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.960 twenty seven at the Eagles. So if you're right around 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.760 that twenty five to twenty eight, you're you're doing fine. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.920 If I offensive line can just take away four sacks, 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:20.400 four or five, I'm serious, you're gonna give up one 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.960 or two sacks just on mistakes. But when you start 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.080 getting the four or five, that's you got to stop 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.800 about seven? Yeah, yeah, I know you gotta stop. Even 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.880 I don't even want to go to six or seven. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:38.320 You you have to find a way to not let 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.880 him get hit that many times, and he has to 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.480 find a way to get that field back so he 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.800 can drop to the ground or something close, you know, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.320 to protect that ball. But I know in this league now, 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.040 you can give up some sacks and you can still 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.440 have a success passing game. But to be plummeted, you 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.440 can't be plummeted isn't expected to perform, you know what 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.320 I'm saying. I mean, think about it. What he what 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.360 did he'd he throw for against the Saints? Like two 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.720 hundred and forty yards? Yeah, he got sacked seven times times. Yeah, 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.600 they and four in the first half, three and the second. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:17.160 The sacks don't don't show or haven't harmed what they've done. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.280 Because you get sacked seven times, they still win the game. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.040 Right over the four game winning streak, he's been sacked 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.600 seventeen times and they've won all four games. That number 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.640 suggests you should lose. Yeah. Yeah, in their history they've 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.560 times when they've been sacked seven times, they've won six 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.640 out of their entire history. That don't even make sense. Yeah, well, 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.400 how about the eleven sacks when I mean when they've 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.840 been sacked seven times, they want they won six games. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.120 They usually lose those. Yeah, they didn't win those games 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.880 when they got sacked eleven times. Newton. But the think 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.920 what you're trying to do is and a lot of 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.640 it's kind of like the NBA is like you can 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.480 shoot forty five percent in twols, thirty nine percent in threes, 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.520 thirty nine sent in threes, gonna wine, you know. So 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.320 people saying now they need plays, they just want more 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.439 and more offensive plays. They need to plays. We can 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.600 get enough plays, we're gonna score some points. Well, we're 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.080 not built like that. We build on efficiency. So when 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.080 we get inside the rid zone, that is truly truly 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.800 big for us because we ain't striking anywhere on the field. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:27.639 Besides what Cooper has done, you know, we ain't. We 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.280 just not as by this much with Gallop right, Yeah, 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:36.320 those big plays, Yeah, haven't quite hit those. Well. We 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.159 mentioned the offensive line a couple of times with the injuries, 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.840 the guys that were kind of banged up, and then 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:47.760 with the other Travis missing totally. But if you've all 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:49.640 seen her to now John Owen, The Morning News Today 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.400 had an article that from his film review, he thinks 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.879 that Connor Williams should now be put back in over Suefila. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:56.919 I know we've talked about before. You gotta let these 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.399 young guys play, You gotta let him go. But how 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.800 do you find that balance between not messing with a 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.920 streak and giving your young guy chance to get in there. Well, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:11.800 if if if, if Xavier's playing that bad, coaches will 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.000 make the change back. If he if he's playing that bad, 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.439 they will make the change back. Yeah, you know, because 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.440 they they feel like Connor is their future. If he 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.080 if he's giving you just as much as the older guy, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.080 they'll put him back by the same tone. If they don't, 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:33.159 they won't. His reasoning was, Williams is a better pass blocker, 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.000 excuse me, although he's not as big as Suephila, he's 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.840 a little quicker in the run game, and he's healthier 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:43.200 right now, which I was. I thought I saw diminishing 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:47.360 returns with Sue Philo, and I thought it was him, 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.119 bade him a couple of times. I thought it was 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.560 time to put Connor Williams back in there. But again, 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.040 we don't know that he is totally healthy. You know 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.040 it's a he did have sir jury, right, had his 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.080 knees scoped. Uh, and look how long it You know, 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.639 Taco kind of got back, but he hasn't really played 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.280 a heck of a lot. So I don't know if 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.399 maybe he's not totally ready to go back out there. Now. 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.159 You can go out there and and be jumbo, you know, 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.720 Jumbo Connor and the three tight end deal. But it's 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.280 only a couple plays a game. It's not sixty. So 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.320 I don't know if that has anything to do with 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.600 it too. But Jason made it sound like that they 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.760 were rolling with Sue Filo. When you're facing a team 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.240 like this, it has such a strong defensive line, is 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.760 it the time you don't mess with? Yeah, keep a 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.720 bigger guy out there that might be a little more sturdy. Yeah, 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.040 it's Fletcher Cox will cause you a problem. And you know, 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.560 watching watching the way they play just a little bit, 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:54.200 I didn't watch just deep into that D and D 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:58.920 lines against Washington, but you know, Fletcher finally started gets 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.040 a push and and Graham got a sack. You know, 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:10.120 it's just I don't know what's besides lacking the intensity. Uh. 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.359 You know, people can say the injuries and all that. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.879 But when you coming off of the Super Bowl intensity 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.719 you thought you had the year before, you know, when 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.960 you didn't realize what was happening, and now you're gonna 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.520 now you can measure that, Like you said, you can 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.760 measure that pressure now, and it's there. It's like a 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.080 cloud when they walk into the facility. It's like a 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.760 cloud coming down on you. You know. He wore me 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.680 out about that pressure yesterday. You know, but Mick, you 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.160 were here twenty five years right, you were here our 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.159 first year. Did we ever think about pressure when it 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:48.359 just it wasn't there that that's surprise. My assumption being 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.200 on the outside is that, you know, this Eagles game 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:52.800 is bigger than the Saints game, and the closer you 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.119 get the playoffs, some more pressure these young guys especially, 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.440 you're gonna feel. But Nate said that's not the case. 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.040 I found that fascinating. Yeah, I think it's kind I 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:04.919 know how the head coach, yeah, presents it because ye 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.440 that if you guys heard in the press conference today, 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.560 that's that was all the questions, you know, how do 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:15.400 you handle this is a big game? And he answered 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.520 the question, and I swore when he said it It's 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.160 like I thought I was listening to Troy Aikman, Yeah, 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.000 because he said something about if this is the big 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.840 game and I do something different than did I cheat 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.400 myself in the other games? Yeah, that wasn't a big 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:35.000 game because the question was it was, I'm not gonna 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:39.160 make this game bigger than another game, because it's only 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.480 sixteen of them. And so if I make this game 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.600 bigger and we lose that game, what was I doing 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:46.200 all the rested? Again? Yeah? Or what do I say 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.240 next year? You know, that's what one one couple of 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:52.440 weeks ago brought us and I got into yet pretty bad. Yeah. 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.119 But but my point was you can't just say okay 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.199 every game, you know, and act like, okay, we got 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.439 to ratchet it up because this one's important, because, as 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.320 you just said, Kurt, when you get to this point 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.600 in the season and you win one, now the next 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.480 game is even bigger, yes it is, and then you 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.879 win that and the next games even bigger. So you 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.080 can't come in and just declare this is the big one, 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.480 because and then what if you lose, then what's the 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:22.000 next one. I'm gonna tell you something, even Keil, And 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.480 and that's why I think that's how you get away 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:28.280 from pressure, if you know. And the only thing I 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:32.240 can equate it with is, uh, you know, you're you're 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.840 you're playing tennis, and you know, as you get closer 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:40.760 to closing out a set, well, yeah, and the pressure 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.240 goes up. If you're just thinking about the result more 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.440 than the point, you get yourself in trouble. You just 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:50.600