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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Shannon is not hosting in his Wednesday Day,
Speaker 1: I am Kurt Daniels. I am feeling in the big
Speaker 1: boy chair today for Shannon, our illustrious leader. He's not
Speaker 1: feeling well, says he's might be coming down with the flu.
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if it's uh A couple of weekends
Speaker 1: of Mama Gross and Yeah Yeah, they're recovering. Obviously, joined
Speaker 1: by the star of our show, the Great Nate Newton. Sir,
Speaker 1: how are you wish? I was great? But I am
Speaker 1: used to be here. We've got Mickey Speck No listen
Speaker 1: in with us, Yes, sir, what are you coming out
Speaker 1: of the bullpen? Yes? All right? Like you to Mickey.
Speaker 1: We tried to get just Ted. He's not fish killer anymore.
Speaker 1: He's just Ted. How you get just Ted to come
Speaker 1: on for a little bit? And he was regaling us
Speaker 1: with stories of hunting earlier. But alas we could not
Speaker 1: say a ka f k huh, I said, Do I
Speaker 1: dare ask what that stands for? Yeah? You can't. What
Speaker 1: is it saying? Fish Yella? We've got Douglas behind the
Speaker 1: wall back there? How you doing, Douglas? Hey there, you'll
Speaker 1: free jump in today. Without Shannon here, he might actually
Speaker 1: get a chance to talk a little bit. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: see that might not be a good thing. Oh thanks, Mick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not in it. Hopefully Shannon's not been hanging around
Speaker 1: with a woozya because he was ill today and practice
Speaker 1: I'm starting to go through the Yeah, better watch the
Speaker 1: hope somebody sprayed these microphones feeling woozy? Okay, what did
Speaker 1: I say? All Right, you had your chance, Douglas. That's
Speaker 1: just Mike off, that's for Mickey. That's an old school
Speaker 1: newspaper headline right there waiting to be written. And we
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Speaker 1: eight eight eight eight five five twenty two ninety seven,
Speaker 1: eight twenty two ninety seven. So normally we talk a
Speaker 1: little cowboys offense Eagles defense today. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that? Nick or Mickey? I'm good with that, all right,
Speaker 1: And my question then right off the bat for you
Speaker 1: guys go there yet please okay, let him give us
Speaker 1: the injury report. How did you know that's when you
Speaker 1: say it's something about a woozy. We don't need tec,
Speaker 1: you don't need his TVC. Yeah, at least it's still
Speaker 1: it's not an injury, right, if that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Guys that didn't practice, just David Irving, Tavon Austin, Shawn Lee, Uh,
Speaker 1: Jeff Swain. I mentioned a woozier. Tyrn Tyrn Smith was dressed,
Speaker 1: he had his pads on, he did all the stuff beforehand,
Speaker 1: and then after they did a couple of their little
Speaker 1: drills and they were actually going to get into something,
Speaker 1: he went outside and he was doing conditioning work with
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning coach Mike Woissick. So at least he
Speaker 1: was dressed, and that's more than he did the prior
Speaker 1: to the Saints game on on Thursday night. So I
Speaker 1: guess that's a step in the right direction. I think
Speaker 1: there's some optimism that he can play, But maybe their
Speaker 1: thought was you guys there's no sense him banging that
Speaker 1: shoulder in pads. You know, if you're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: do it in the game. Let's not wasted in practice.
Speaker 1: So he was he probably I guess they'll probably list
Speaker 1: him as limited. Zack Martin was out there, he did
Speaker 1: the early stuff and Jason Garrett said in the press
Speaker 1: comment he probably would be limited. Uh, same with Sea A.
Speaker 1: Philo was out there. It has a little bit of
Speaker 1: a hank ankle. And then also MALIEK. Collins might be
Speaker 1: a little limited. He was still trying to work through.
Speaker 1: I guess it was the knee thing he had and
Speaker 1: the good nos he is as Cole Beasley was out
Speaker 1: there and looked like he was getting ready to do
Speaker 1: everything they asked him, So I think there was some
Speaker 1: worry about him with his foot that came out of
Speaker 1: that game, and I think he's he looked like he
Speaker 1: was moving pretty well. He was working on the cards
Speaker 1: early and then kind of moved into what everybody else did.
Speaker 1: So Tyrn, there you have it. Tyrn is. I got
Speaker 1: the impression that they had hoped Tyrn would be ready
Speaker 1: to go. If he's not, are we starting to get
Speaker 1: serious concerns? Well, the last couple. I mean like last
Speaker 1: week when he when they kind of knew he wasn't
Speaker 1: ready to go that early portion of practice when they
Speaker 1: kind of do some skeleton drills, Cam Fleming was out
Speaker 1: there with the first team. He wasn't out there with
Speaker 1: the first team. This time, Tyrone was out there. So
Speaker 1: I think that's a good sign that he's probably moving
Speaker 1: closer and closer to playing on Sunday, and they need
Speaker 1: him out there. By the way, David Irving, man, you
Speaker 1: know me me personally, I think he's done for the year.
Speaker 1: But what's your feel you a little bit closer to
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, I look at him as you know,
Speaker 1: when you order an ice cream Sunday, the Sunday is
Speaker 1: pretty good. If you get the cherry on top, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's better, right, So I think he's the cherry on top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're counting on it. Yeah. I mean, it's a high
Speaker 1: ankle sprain and those things are usually four to six
Speaker 1: weeks and then you know, whatever else he's got going on.
Speaker 1: Who knows, but yeah, somebody said that they he's been
Speaker 1: seen in the building at least on Monday, which is
Speaker 1: more than I've seen since he left on the scooter.
Speaker 1: That day kneeling with the bad ankle on the scooter
Speaker 1: one of those little electrical things. So hopefully he's not
Speaker 1: going too fast on it. What's uh, I haven't heard
Speaker 1: really a specific timeline on Swam. It was gonna be
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, because I was sure was a
Speaker 1: dad thing to say, like, oh, he's not going too
Speaker 1: fast for four weeks. Maybe he had to have screws
Speaker 1: inserted into the fracture of the bone in his hands.
Speaker 1: And I was told, until the screws come out, he's
Speaker 1: not going to be able to play, even if they
Speaker 1: pad it up, because obviously you don't have much padding
Speaker 1: in your hand back at your hand, so those screws
Speaker 1: have to come out first. So maybe by the end
Speaker 1: of the season, maybe another week or two, and then
Speaker 1: he would see if they could play with a pad on.
Speaker 1: You know, I just want people I want I want
Speaker 1: people to see how good he is. But you know,
Speaker 1: and I said this about five years ago, I said,
Speaker 1: I want people to know how good Sean lives. And
Speaker 1: I don't think Swain is as great as Sean lives.
Speaker 1: But the injury thing, man, yeah, say, helped saying yesterday
Speaker 1: Swains one of the better tight ends in the league.
Speaker 1: If you it's it's and Mick probably can name him
Speaker 1: better than I can. But it's four or five great
Speaker 1: tight ends in this league, and then there's the rest
Speaker 1: of the guys, and Swain is at the top of
Speaker 1: the rest of those guys. That's just what I believe.
Speaker 1: I don't know what other teams can develop in their
Speaker 1: tight end position. But he run his routes and he's
Speaker 1: better than an adequate blocker, and he run his routes
Speaker 1: and he catches balls. What he does need maybe that
Speaker 1: Kelsey don't need, because Kelsey was by kind of doing
Speaker 1: his own thing for a long time him and grown is.
Speaker 1: He may need other pieces around him to where he
Speaker 1: can be a compliment piece. But as a tight end,
Speaker 1: as I look at tight ends, he's a good more
Speaker 1: than service was tight end. To me, that's just a
Speaker 1: complete tight end, not just a guy you're going to
Speaker 1: send out in the slot and throw passes to like
Speaker 1: zach Ernst h So, uh yeah, and I think they
Speaker 1: missed they missed his blocking on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: You think that, you know, there's so much concern about
Speaker 1: the tight end position coming into this year. Obviously we're
Speaker 1: not getting twenty five twenty seven year old Jason Witten production.
Speaker 1: But are we getting the same production we would have
Speaker 1: gotten out of Jason Witten this year? I think they
Speaker 1: would have scaled back his snaps uh this year to
Speaker 1: try to preserve him number one. And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know that you know the last year or so
Speaker 1: that his blocking on the line of scrimmage was what
Speaker 1: he'd been used to seeing. It's came out with like
Speaker 1: two or three games because every year, memmy, be like,
Speaker 1: Jason ain't doing it, and then as the season go on,
Speaker 1: you get better and better. I'm like, wow, it takes
Speaker 1: him a couple of games to get warmed up to
Speaker 1: that speed. And believe it or not, because they he
Speaker 1: didn't practice like you know they're saying with SHANNIEMI took
Speaker 1: Shanny one or two games where he just stopped being
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. That happens with time. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: that the more that Schultz has played, I think the
Speaker 1: better he's he's become. Yeah, he seemed like a guy
Speaker 1: that they like, almost a wasted traffick and training camp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again you gotta remember these are rookies and they're
Speaker 1: all of a sudden going from playing against the twenty
Speaker 1: year old guy to thirty year old defensive end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and see Jason, and what that is? This is one
Speaker 1: thing I like about Jason. They saw, okay, he ain't
Speaker 1: where we thought he was. And then and instead of
Speaker 1: them see instead of them saying, okay, he's just gonna
Speaker 1: beat him down, they brought him alone. And a lot
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't like that, but they
Speaker 1: brought him alone. And so now he's starting to come
Speaker 1: in Like Blake Jordan, I'm like, I'm like, why is
Speaker 1: they even putting this dude in the field, because you
Speaker 1: know how, you know what I started calling the guy
Speaker 1: seeing man, he's snake bit, He's snake bit. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: now things are starting to come in and sometimes you
Speaker 1: just take that time and uh shouts up. Thing gonna
Speaker 1: be all right, But Swain is better than all right.
Speaker 1: And uh and if if we gotta go I don't
Speaker 1: think we have to go out and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: David Hellman may think a little different, or a few
Speaker 1: other guys. I don't think we have to go out
Speaker 1: and make drafting a tight end a priority. I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. Yeah, I was one of that too.
Speaker 1: If we've made so much about the weakness at tight end,
Speaker 1: but is it that much weaker than I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the tight if you have one of those guys
Speaker 1: the Kelsey's yeah, hearns, Hey, that's great. Yeah. But if
Speaker 1: you don't have that guy and you just have a
Speaker 1: complete tight end, if you get to the end of
Speaker 1: the season and you tell me I didn't make the
Speaker 1: playoffs because I didn't have a good enough tight end,
Speaker 1: all right, listening, right, Yeah, that's weak. It's only two
Speaker 1: tight ends in this league right now, and it's never
Speaker 1: been more than one that you can say, Hey, that
Speaker 1: guy that can get me to the super Bowl. And
Speaker 1: that's just how it goals. I mean, it's been some
Speaker 1: great tight ends that came through these but you still
Speaker 1: needed them outside guys to make that great tight end greater,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying. I mean, think
Speaker 1: about what Ernest did the first time around against the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fourteen catches for one hundred forty five yards, and they
Speaker 1: really didn't score the get to twenty until that last
Speaker 1: drive when the Cowboys were trying to make them milk
Speaker 1: the clock to down the field. So despite fourteen catches
Speaker 1: for one hundred and forty five yards. You know, with
Speaker 1: a few minutes left in the game, they had thirteen points.
Speaker 1: So because tight end the traditional tight end, and even
Speaker 1: if he in the slot, he still brings the extra
Speaker 1: man into the box. He still you know, people said,
Speaker 1: And the only time he can really help you is
Speaker 1: if he's legit like that. Now, he really helps the
Speaker 1: slot receiver because they got to make this decision on
Speaker 1: on who they're gonna double on the inside. That's why
Speaker 1: I think, now, you know, the outside guy really helps
Speaker 1: Cold Beasley. But if outside in, if we had sway
Speaker 1: somebody that we can just really have in there now
Speaker 1: Cold Beasty, because I'm like, we shouldn't lose on Cold
Speaker 1: We shouldn't, you know. And now I didn't know he
Speaker 1: was hurt, you know. Yeah, he finished the game though, right,
Speaker 1: so that was the good news. But he did kind
Speaker 1: of on the play that he dove for the first down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he kind of sprained his foot a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I saw him doing the cord work out there and
Speaker 1: he looked like he was moving just fine. It's just uh,
Speaker 1: Cold Cold. She was having some outstanding games now, I mean,
Speaker 1: going down the stretch man I wanted to be surprised.
Speaker 1: He should have averaged at least five catches, not no.
Speaker 1: Five charge. He should average five catches, sixty or seventy
Speaker 1: yards just first downs every game. He should. At this
Speaker 1: point it seems it's obviously because of Cooper his targets
Speaker 1: have dropped though, So yeah, but you gotta remember when
Speaker 1: they was willing and he had the seven hundred yards season,
Speaker 1: we had witting and Dad's doing well. So h man,
Speaker 1: I believe that you can beat people with a complete
Speaker 1: package if you're if you got a Marie Cooper and
Speaker 1: you got Zeke in the backfield and your office line
Speaker 1: is starting to trying to be something. Now, all you
Speaker 1: need is a good slot, a good tight end, and
Speaker 1: a good other receiver. You don't need them great, You
Speaker 1: just need them to be good, be consistent. And I
Speaker 1: think cold Bees is on the upper end of slot receivers,
Speaker 1: so we should be. We should. Yeah, because I got
Speaker 1: so helme in it showed a happy out. They meet
Speaker 1: twenty eight points shouldn't be an issue for us. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think I think you're right there?
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you, you know, and as long
Speaker 1: as you as long as you don't keep wasting firsting
Speaker 1: goals at the four and having to kick a field goal,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's happened far too many times last
Speaker 1: four or five games. I mean, okay, yes, twenty eight
Speaker 1: points shouldn't be an issue, but it is. So why
Speaker 1: it is at all about the red zone? I mean why?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's what We're still twenty fourth in the
Speaker 1: league in points. Yeah, and I don't know if if
Speaker 1: the New Orleans game was an outlier because the offense
Speaker 1: was starting to roll, you know, the amount of points
Speaker 1: they were producing in the during this four game winning streak.
Speaker 1: The other three games the offense was rolling, the guy's
Speaker 1: numbers have been high. U So I mean yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: what are you want against Washington? Twenty two against the
Speaker 1: Falcons points and then what was the other seven? And
Speaker 1: twenty seven at the Eagles. So if you're right around
Speaker 1: that twenty five to twenty eight, you're you're doing fine.
Speaker 1: If I offensive line can just take away four sacks,
Speaker 1: four or five, I'm serious, you're gonna give up one
Speaker 1: or two sacks just on mistakes. But when you start
Speaker 1: getting the four or five, that's you got to stop
Speaker 1: about seven? Yeah, yeah, I know you gotta stop. Even
Speaker 1: I don't even want to go to six or seven.
Speaker 1: You you have to find a way to not let
Speaker 1: him get hit that many times, and he has to
Speaker 1: find a way to get that field back so he
Speaker 1: can drop to the ground or something close, you know,
Speaker 1: to protect that ball. But I know in this league now,
Speaker 1: you can give up some sacks and you can still
Speaker 1: have a success passing game. But to be plummeted, you
Speaker 1: can't be plummeted isn't expected to perform, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, think about it. What he what
Speaker 1: did he'd he throw for against the Saints? Like two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards? Yeah, he got sacked seven times times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they and four in the first half, three and the second.
Speaker 1: The sacks don't don't show or haven't harmed what they've done.
Speaker 1: Because you get sacked seven times, they still win the game.
Speaker 1: Right over the four game winning streak, he's been sacked
Speaker 1: seventeen times and they've won all four games. That number
Speaker 1: suggests you should lose. Yeah. Yeah, in their history they've
Speaker 1: times when they've been sacked seven times, they've won six
Speaker 1: out of their entire history. That don't even make sense. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: how about the eleven sacks when I mean when they've
Speaker 1: been sacked seven times, they want they won six games.
Speaker 1: They usually lose those. Yeah, they didn't win those games
Speaker 1: when they got sacked eleven times. Newton. But the think
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do is and a lot of
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the NBA is like you can
Speaker 1: shoot forty five percent in twols, thirty nine percent in threes,
Speaker 1: thirty nine sent in threes, gonna wine, you know. So
Speaker 1: people saying now they need plays, they just want more
Speaker 1: and more offensive plays. They need to plays. We can
Speaker 1: get enough plays, we're gonna score some points. Well, we're
Speaker 1: not built like that. We build on efficiency. So when
Speaker 1: we get inside the rid zone, that is truly truly
Speaker 1: big for us because we ain't striking anywhere on the field.
Speaker 1: Besides what Cooper has done, you know, we ain't. We
Speaker 1: just not as by this much with Gallop right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: those big plays, Yeah, haven't quite hit those. Well. We
Speaker 1: mentioned the offensive line a couple of times with the injuries,
Speaker 1: the guys that were kind of banged up, and then
Speaker 1: with the other Travis missing totally. But if you've all
Speaker 1: seen her to now John Owen, The Morning News Today
Speaker 1: had an article that from his film review, he thinks
Speaker 1: that Connor Williams should now be put back in over Suefila.
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about before. You gotta let these
Speaker 1: young guys play, You gotta let him go. But how
Speaker 1: do you find that balance between not messing with a
Speaker 1: streak and giving your young guy chance to get in there. Well,
Speaker 1: if if if, if Xavier's playing that bad, coaches will
Speaker 1: make the change back. If he if he's playing that bad,
Speaker 1: they will make the change back. Yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: they they feel like Connor is their future. If he
Speaker 1: if he's giving you just as much as the older guy,
Speaker 1: they'll put him back by the same tone. If they don't,
Speaker 1: they won't. His reasoning was, Williams is a better pass blocker,
Speaker 1: excuse me, although he's not as big as Suephila, he's
Speaker 1: a little quicker in the run game, and he's healthier
Speaker 1: right now, which I was. I thought I saw diminishing
Speaker 1: returns with Sue Philo, and I thought it was him,
Speaker 1: bade him a couple of times. I thought it was
Speaker 1: time to put Connor Williams back in there. But again,
Speaker 1: we don't know that he is totally healthy. You know
Speaker 1: it's a he did have sir jury, right, had his
Speaker 1: knees scoped. Uh, and look how long it You know,
Speaker 1: Taco kind of got back, but he hasn't really played
Speaker 1: a heck of a lot. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: maybe he's not totally ready to go back out there. Now.
Speaker 1: You can go out there and and be jumbo, you know,
Speaker 1: Jumbo Connor and the three tight end deal. But it's
Speaker 1: only a couple plays a game. It's not sixty. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if that has anything to do with
Speaker 1: it too. But Jason made it sound like that they
Speaker 1: were rolling with Sue Filo. When you're facing a team
Speaker 1: like this, it has such a strong defensive line, is
Speaker 1: it the time you don't mess with? Yeah, keep a
Speaker 1: bigger guy out there that might be a little more sturdy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Fletcher Cox will cause you a problem. And you know,
Speaker 1: watching watching the way they play just a little bit,
Speaker 1: I didn't watch just deep into that D and D
Speaker 1: lines against Washington, but you know, Fletcher finally started gets
Speaker 1: a push and and Graham got a sack. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know what's besides lacking the intensity. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, people can say the injuries and all that.
Speaker 1: But when you coming off of the Super Bowl intensity
Speaker 1: you thought you had the year before, you know, when
Speaker 1: you didn't realize what was happening, and now you're gonna
Speaker 1: now you can measure that, Like you said, you can
Speaker 1: measure that pressure now, and it's there. It's like a
Speaker 1: cloud when they walk into the facility. It's like a
Speaker 1: cloud coming down on you. You know. He wore me
Speaker 1: out about that pressure yesterday. You know, but Mick, you
Speaker 1: were here twenty five years right, you were here our
Speaker 1: first year. Did we ever think about pressure when it
Speaker 1: just it wasn't there that that's surprise. My assumption being
Speaker 1: on the outside is that, you know, this Eagles game
Speaker 1: is bigger than the Saints game, and the closer you
Speaker 1: get the playoffs, some more pressure these young guys especially,
Speaker 1: you're gonna feel. But Nate said that's not the case.
Speaker 1: I found that fascinating. Yeah, I think it's kind I
Speaker 1: know how the head coach, yeah, presents it because ye
Speaker 1: that if you guys heard in the press conference today,
Speaker 1: that's that was all the questions, you know, how do
Speaker 1: you handle this is a big game? And he answered
Speaker 1: the question, and I swore when he said it It's
Speaker 1: like I thought I was listening to Troy Aikman, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he said something about if this is the big
Speaker 1: game and I do something different than did I cheat
Speaker 1: myself in the other games? Yeah, that wasn't a big
Speaker 1: game because the question was it was, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: make this game bigger than another game, because it's only
Speaker 1: sixteen of them. And so if I make this game
Speaker 1: bigger and we lose that game, what was I doing
Speaker 1: all the rested? Again? Yeah? Or what do I say
Speaker 1: next year? You know, that's what one one couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago brought us and I got into yet pretty bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but my point was you can't just say okay
Speaker 1: every game, you know, and act like, okay, we got
Speaker 1: to ratchet it up because this one's important, because, as
Speaker 1: you just said, Kurt, when you get to this point
Speaker 1: in the season and you win one, now the next
Speaker 1: game is even bigger, yes it is, and then you
Speaker 1: win that and the next games even bigger. So you
Speaker 1: can't come in and just declare this is the big one,
Speaker 1: because and then what if you lose, then what's the
Speaker 1: next one. I'm gonna tell you something, even Keil, And
Speaker 1: and that's why I think that's how you get away
Speaker 1: from pressure, if you know. And the only thing I
Speaker 1: can equate it with is, uh, you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: you're playing tennis, and you know, as you get closer
Speaker 1: to closing out a set, well, yeah, and the pressure
Speaker 1: goes up. If you're just thinking about the result more
Speaker 1: than the point, you get yourself in trouble. You just
Speaker 1: got to play the point and see, this is what
Speaker 1: Because Kurt was like, it was like, because I didn't
Speaker 1: you know, me and Kurt, God, I don't want him
Speaker 1: think that I'm griping a moment. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's him put me to think it. And then then
Speaker 1: I look around the league. Well, if that's the case,
Speaker 1: Jerry Golf should fall apart. Uh, Patrick Mahomes should be crumbling.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. But some guys are some
Speaker 1: teams depending on who the coach is. That's what I
Speaker 1: was setting curtainer. That's the curt I said. Jimmy wouldn't
Speaker 1: let it be about us. He let it be he
Speaker 1: He made it big and fun. He's like man, y'all boy,
Speaker 1: y'all won last week. But this game here, Oh, you
Speaker 1: really want to show the world what you made out up,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just about yeah, you up the ammy,
Speaker 1: but you don't make it like pipe or death. And
Speaker 1: I think Jason does a good job of that. And
Speaker 1: I know everybody probably got bored with his answer. Oh
Speaker 1: they didn't like it. But that's that's that's I turned
Speaker 1: off for. That's the reality of it. I turned off.
Speaker 1: I said he, I said they they asked for it,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to turn off for the next minute
Speaker 1: because he gave it. Because when you asked that question,
Speaker 1: you should know what the answer is gonna be from
Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, it's coming like the one question about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are in the driver's seat. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: what driver's seat. It's a little small driver's seat if
Speaker 1: if they are, because there are only one game ahead
Speaker 1: of two teams and they got to play the Eagles
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But you know what's kind of driver's seat.
Speaker 1: You know what's so amazing, it's the fact that it's
Speaker 1: one on two men. Yeah, oh sorry, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: you can stay as long as you want. Uh. You
Speaker 1: know what's so amazing though, is uh? And I brought
Speaker 1: this up yesterday. Rivera coach, rivera how he's taken over
Speaker 1: the defensive calling. Dude in firing PA and you see
Speaker 1: and see this is what you You don't panic too soon,
Speaker 1: and this is when you start panic because coach that okay,
Speaker 1: we're on a four game s kid, we got to
Speaker 1: change something. Now it's time to change. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: change something, ain't gonna go fire your head coach. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about if you're gonna change something within your staff.
Speaker 1: Now is that time? Because everybody is within a game
Speaker 1: up of six orn or over six. You either six
Speaker 1: and five or six and whatever? Are you seven and whatever?
Speaker 1: And it's crunch time. It's crunch time. And this is
Speaker 1: how you mess up your team. It's when the coach
Speaker 1: starts panicking. I want to see what the Panthers do
Speaker 1: because the coach it's panic. I'm serious. So now how
Speaker 1: is the team to respond? Yeah? Right? And since you
Speaker 1: got red, it reminded me of you know, Oklahoma trying
Speaker 1: to fix their defense right right, Well, they didn't really
Speaker 1: fix it, nah nah nah, changing defensive coordinators. That's what
Speaker 1: I said. When you see your studs, your star players,
Speaker 1: and your coaches start getting nervous, that not the young guys.
Speaker 1: What what's the issue here? Now? Yesterday we was cool.
Speaker 1: But what's going on here? So now you got everybody
Speaker 1: doubting everybody. That's when they started Mountain. I think it's
Speaker 1: okay for us to understand and point out the ramifications
Speaker 1: of the game. Yeah, they just need to play and
Speaker 1: they know right, they know where they're at. They understand.
Speaker 1: But if one game away from the Bears losing, yeah,
Speaker 1: you one game away from taking over your division, and
Speaker 1: you one game away from being back in the wild
Speaker 1: card hunt. Oh you're in all one game yep, and
Speaker 1: that's this game coming. All right, let's we're past one o'clock.
Speaker 1: I don't Mickey, you want to stick around and A yeah,
Speaker 1: you can sit around. We need to take a break
Speaker 1: just to eat. That's okay, So we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: That's amari for us. Yeah, that ain't happening. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll be back. We got some callers on the line.
Speaker 1: We'll try to hit some of those and we'll see
Speaker 1: if Mickey sticks around. So we're right back with hanging
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Speaker 1: apologize to Strong at the ball. Yes, we got to
Speaker 1: chatting here. Thanks for holding on nay for you nature.
Speaker 1: What's something man? Bring it to us? How you doing certain?
Speaker 1: What was you trying to bring to us the other day?
Speaker 1: What was you trying? I thought I told you I
Speaker 1: thought I told you okay too, he thought he told
Speaker 1: you too. What's that tell me? Yeah? Yeah? But here, Uh,
Speaker 1: I told you many he wouldn't have nowhere to run.
Speaker 1: You got him? Yeah, But I meant to say Kamara
Speaker 1: didn't have nowhere to run either, because really nobody runs
Speaker 1: the ball against us. It's just not you really don't
Speaker 1: do that. I mean, it's that's supposed doing. I mean,
Speaker 1: two years ago he was the number one run defense
Speaker 1: and y'all said he had a couple of days ago
Speaker 1: on the show. If I you know, I was playing
Speaker 1: with that plan with a mediocre, mediocre defense a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. And that's what I'm saying. Those guys
Speaker 1: weren mediocre. I think our you know, our front seven
Speaker 1: Wassid it, but our corners from mediocre, so you know
Speaker 1: that's why we were number one and run defense. But
Speaker 1: you know, but our corners weren't great, so we sent
Speaker 1: its like top fifteen overall. So you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: what it was. So what you think about these corners
Speaker 1: right now? Give us your rinkings on that, y oh man.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know Byron Jones is lockdown. I don't
Speaker 1: want him putting his gun out until we're running off
Speaker 1: the field celebration, you know what I mean, Wait till,
Speaker 1: wait till it was fourth down and it was about
Speaker 1: the pump because you put your gun out. That's what
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell Biden. But other than that, man,
Speaker 1: he wanted the best, you know. And Tito, I mean
Speaker 1: we talked about Cheto, but the only person I've seen
Speaker 1: beat Cheeto really is is Hulio. And who then Hulio
Speaker 1: be right? So what you know? So we you know,
Speaker 1: he yung, he cadn't go get better every year, so
Speaker 1: you know we gotta ride with him, you know, But
Speaker 1: just real quick, let's look at the staff. For me.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're scoring in the red zone because
Speaker 1: that ain't running. Man, you can't run every other time.
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll run on third down and put your
Speaker 1: head down, your bulldog and you a ride. And we
Speaker 1: know that once we get inside the ten, that's faked
Speaker 1: to Zeke. I mean that hand off to Zeke, it
Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere. If you ain't a threat to run
Speaker 1: the ball, it's just gonna crash down on. That's why
Speaker 1: we ain't run that play to Beasley. When Beasley dropped
Speaker 1: that play, run that play. You won't keep dropping that.
Speaker 1: What are we saving stuff like that for? I don't
Speaker 1: get it right. Yeah, that's twenty points out there with
Speaker 1: that stuff like that. And you know that one throw
Speaker 1: to Gallup, I mean that's twenty points right there. If
Speaker 1: our defense keep playing like this, if nobody, nobody Curtis
Speaker 1: all right, he brings up something I want to ask
Speaker 1: you guys, and that I mean right now, let me
Speaker 1: drill some stats into the beat you down with this stuff.
Speaker 1: But we're second in average time of possession per drive
Speaker 1: three h five. We're fourth in the league in average
Speaker 1: yards per drive six point three three. But those aren't
Speaker 1: turning into points really, we're seventeenth and points per drive.
Speaker 1: How it's all coming down to the red zone. Right,
Speaker 1: and how does that get fixed? Yeah, and they just
Speaker 1: haven't been good enough inside the ten yard line. I
Speaker 1: think four of they've only scored touchdowns on four of
Speaker 1: their last nine first in goals and that's not good enough.
Speaker 1: And three of them have been first in goal at
Speaker 1: the four but you just mentioned one of them. Beasley
Speaker 1: dropped the touchdown pass a heck of a call, wide open,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you struggle they leaked pass coverage
Speaker 1: this pass game or the game before. Right. Uh, Noah
Speaker 1: Brown's wide open the left side of the end zone.
Speaker 1: No one covered him, and Dack's back pedaling and he's
Speaker 1: got to throw the ball up because he's gonna get
Speaker 1: sacked and he come up short. So they've had some
Speaker 1: good plays in there, they just haven't executed or you know,
Speaker 1: caught the ball or protected the quarterback and you know,
Speaker 1: and what happens is you're four yards away from the
Speaker 1: goal line. I get it, and yeah, just hand Zeke
Speaker 1: the ball. Well what do you think the defense is
Speaker 1: thinking too? They're gonna stock the box. And the one
Speaker 1: thing that Cowboys don't have, well, actually two things we
Speaker 1: talked about it this morning. One, you know, you might
Speaker 1: not have a savvy enough tight end to figure out
Speaker 1: the congestion in there like Witton did to get open
Speaker 1: and number two the back shoulder fade. They don't really
Speaker 1: have a wide receiver. They can jump up high and
Speaker 1: go get the ball. Now, I think Gallup might turn
Speaker 1: into that. He's a little bigger than everybody thinks, so
Speaker 1: they're a little limited in that close end stuff. But
Speaker 1: they need to figure it out because it's got to
Speaker 1: be better. Back in the day when you were playing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody knew you're gonna run. Line up, line up,
Speaker 1: and you run and the Jim Schwartz, the Eagles defensive
Speaker 1: quarters coordinator, said yesterday that they pretty much know what
Speaker 1: Dallas is going to do. You know, it's a pretty
Speaker 1: simple run game in his opinion. So a lot of
Speaker 1: fans wonder, and I wonder too. Are they just getting
Speaker 1: too cute on the goal line? Do they just need
Speaker 1: to line it up and go? I mean, it's why
Speaker 1: has Zeke ever come off the field, whether he runs
Speaker 1: the ball or not. I mean, they just need to
Speaker 1: get up, get up and get in there. I wish
Speaker 1: they would if if they were going to just get
Speaker 1: up and go and hand them the ball don't come
Speaker 1: in with three tight ends because basically you're saying, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like that big neon sign that says, yeah, like okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna run, are you n run? We got three
Speaker 1: tight ends? And sometimes you got to back people off
Speaker 1: and say, okay, are you sure all three tight ends
Speaker 1: are blocking? You know? Are you sure we're not going
Speaker 1: to throw it at you? Otherwise sometimes you just beat
Speaker 1: your head against the wall. And I think the misnomer
Speaker 1: is is this line is so good they're gonna blow
Speaker 1: people off the line of script when you got when
Speaker 1: you got three backups in there, I'll tell us here, man,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be fixed. I mean, whether you're throwing it.
Speaker 1: And more important, we can't take sacks down there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just cannot or penalties. Sacks and penalties. That's that That
Speaker 1: has happened to us a couple of times. But when
Speaker 1: it took sacks and penalties, and it's just it's that's
Speaker 1: that's a bad thing. You know, I don't care how
Speaker 1: you get it in there. You gotta you gotta get
Speaker 1: it in there because uh, you gotta pay attention to
Speaker 1: you got to realize if I'm gonna make a mistake,
Speaker 1: it just cannot be down here. You gotta pay you
Speaker 1: gotta pay attention to detail. Man, This is this is
Speaker 1: this is the most this is the least UH worked
Speaker 1: on deal because it's so physical. Goal line, it's so
Speaker 1: physical in such a small area. But it's most important
Speaker 1: when you get down there. It becomes you know what
Speaker 1: everybody tell us about. Hey man, they're terribling the rid zone.
Speaker 1: They didn't get down there before times, but those were
Speaker 1: four great times that you needed to score seven, you know,
Speaker 1: And the other guy called and said, you know, the
Speaker 1: dack's got to run the ball more. Well, okay, you
Speaker 1: you go empty. And and now people have seen that, right,
Speaker 1: they've seen the quarterback draw. I think he wanted the
Speaker 1: the oh he wanted to run option. Yeah, but a
Speaker 1: lot of times everybody's saying one, they just call that draw. Well,
Speaker 1: you've got to set it up. It's not like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's just go do it, because at some point the
Speaker 1: middle linebackers going oh, not against me, You aren't you know,
Speaker 1: you can do something else, But I'm watching this to
Speaker 1: take them two techniques over your guards. They're just gonna
Speaker 1: sit there. Yeah, they're just gonna hold ground. And then
Speaker 1: when he take off the ferry job. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about rushing them, just make sure he doesn't
Speaker 1: run right up the gut. Yeah. So here's another static
Speaker 1: attention to detail, random thing to throw aut you on
Speaker 1: the road scoring touchdowns in the red zone, we're at
Speaker 1: fifty seven percent. At home, we're at four percent. Is
Speaker 1: there any kind of conservative play because you're got a
Speaker 1: home field advantage there would maybe there's too much noise
Speaker 1: from another team. I have no idea. It's just a
Speaker 1: lot of that. A lot of those things are it's like, well,
Speaker 1: who you playing against? Yeah, you know, and how good
Speaker 1: is that is that defense? Because I think overall in
Speaker 1: the red zone they're like forty eight percent. Yeah touchdowns, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's not you got to be over fifty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kicking too many field goals, are giving your opportunity
Speaker 1: to missfield goals from a short distance. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: got to be better. We talked a little bit earlier
Speaker 1: about Phillies defense, just a little bit about what's changed.
Speaker 1: I mean, they seem so much better last year. They
Speaker 1: haven't lost a ton of guy they still they've had
Speaker 1: so many injuries in the secondary, right, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it started in the Cowboy game. They started, they
Speaker 1: were down guys and then they lost guys in the game.
Speaker 1: And I don't think they've gotten everybody back yet. So yeah,
Speaker 1: their past defense, I think it is ranked like twenty six.
Speaker 1: There's something that they're pretty low down. They're just just
Speaker 1: havn't Journegan didn't play the first game on that defensive line.
Speaker 1: I know he's kind of rotational guy. Does he make
Speaker 1: any kind of difference at all? Or yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it helps out. I think their key thing is if
Speaker 1: they're not getting pressure on the quarterback, the back end
Speaker 1: is gonna hurt them right right, So if you can
Speaker 1: protect your quarterback, so is the whole key to this
Speaker 1: game stopping Fletcher Cox. And it's a good word, it's
Speaker 1: a good place to start. You know, Brandon Graham found
Speaker 1: his legs last week, you know, and it's always Chris Long.
Speaker 1: You know, It's just I don't think I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1: I really, in a game of this magnitude, it don't
Speaker 1: matter they they have. They have been in this spot
Speaker 1: war not not the losing part, but you know, they've
Speaker 1: been in this spot before where they knew they had
Speaker 1: to play well. And the thing about they got the
Speaker 1: talent and see I'm waiting on I'm waiting on Michael Bennett.
Speaker 1: We don't need to let him show up. Michael Bennetts
Speaker 1: just been an old K guy all year long, just
Speaker 1: an old K guy. We don't need for Michael Bennett
Speaker 1: to show up like he did for Seattle Can. A
Speaker 1: team that was has maybe been on a I mean,
Speaker 1: you talked about coming back the next year after a
Speaker 1: super Bowl and that's when it really gets tough. Can
Speaker 1: they figure it out midway through and find their legs
Speaker 1: or is it just Yeah? Because the reason I believe
Speaker 1: it make the reason I believe that the Eagles can
Speaker 1: find these legs because this ain't all about Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: That's why I believe they got a chance. Because it's
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I think it's it's a nice quarterback, always
Speaker 1: have even this rookie year. I blamed him the receivers
Speaker 1: he was he was hitting too many people in their hands.
Speaker 1: You know, if you got a quarterback of this magnet two,
Speaker 1: you always got a chance. And now they quite uh
Speaker 1: the cowboy killer, you know, Tate, Yeah, I finally had
Speaker 1: a good game. Yeah, this is how we used the
Speaker 1: Cowboy killer right before our game. He gets gets almost
Speaker 1: a hundred yards in the touchdown. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: You go back twenty five years when you guys tried
Speaker 1: to repeat. You know, you were just seven and four
Speaker 1: eleven games, That's what I'm saying. But there were two
Speaker 1: games without Emmett. Yeah, the pressure was on and Jimmy
Speaker 1: basically told him if we don't run the table, we're
Speaker 1: not getting home field advantage. It's like Jimmy had to
Speaker 1: tell Jerry, you better sign Emmett after that. Oh and
Speaker 1: two stars Charles Hayley does Oh it was Charles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, Jimmy's been talking to him all day.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been seven and four with him at
Speaker 1: in the lineup. Well you don't know that, I think
Speaker 1: I do, Expert Douglas, Where did Derek did Derek last?
Speaker 1: You do not start Micky up? Okay, do not start Mickey.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm poking and proud and anything in
Speaker 1: the league. So what they had Troy and Michael and
Speaker 1: in all these villagers, Yeah right, they were eat it
Speaker 1: all man, they were They just wasn't ready to play.
Speaker 1: This wasn't this wasn't the age of parrot or the
Speaker 1: era of parody you had? I mean the first game
Speaker 1: of that season was Buffalo right home game, and I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, these were teams that if you were going
Speaker 1: to win. The forty nine Ers were stacked, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were obviously stacked. You couldn't just drop one of your
Speaker 1: future Hall of famers out of lineup and expect it.
Speaker 1: Why not? What you were doing? Why not? Because that's
Speaker 1: just the way the league was. Then what did you
Speaker 1: lose that game? Thirteen ten? The Buffalo was just enough
Speaker 1: and he got beat by Washington And the opener was
Speaker 1: that right? I think that's right? We saw huh Yeah,
Speaker 1: remember no oh and two team has ever gone to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl except Jimmy Johnson coach team and then
Speaker 1: Jimmy Warrior ass out right, and that's why he ended
Speaker 1: up I think retiring lost at Washington, lost the Buffalo
Speaker 1: thirteen ten. Pretty good an old guy. Yeah, I'm tell
Speaker 1: you something, man. I just I like the Eagles, man.
Speaker 1: I like I like how they play. I like that
Speaker 1: they know who they are even when they lose. They
Speaker 1: they know that it's all about Carson Wentz and they
Speaker 1: do everything and their power to make sure that the
Speaker 1: offensive line be as healthy as they can be, and
Speaker 1: they make things where they protect him. I mean they
Speaker 1: actually they go out of their way, man, so because
Speaker 1: they like, we don't care and they're head coach like
Speaker 1: it took them two or three weeks to figure out
Speaker 1: how they actually needed to use golden take and it
Speaker 1: came to light. So uh, I think Coach Garrett is
Speaker 1: trying to do the same thing here. But I and
Speaker 1: I've always said, this is the only time you hear
Speaker 1: me kind of you know, get put myself on the
Speaker 1: firing line. Is management gotta let him make his moves.
Speaker 1: And I don't think every move is made by Jason.
Speaker 1: I think it is a lot of moves are made
Speaker 1: by committee. And I could be wrong, but some things,
Speaker 1: I just it don't seem to be Jason, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Some things that maneuver the moving parts
Speaker 1: don't seem to be the Jason. You know. U. Let's see,
Speaker 1: let's see, like I said, let's see, let's he's putting
Speaker 1: one over on me. You know, let's go back to
Speaker 1: the phones. We got Adam in Atlanta. How are you
Speaker 1: doing today? Adam? Hey, guys, how are you doing when
Speaker 1: you were in Atlanta? Oh well great, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on man, yo, man, what's your name? Don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to tell you something. Mickey, you didn't speak
Speaker 1: to Kurt and you did speak to me. You spoke.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's cool. Mickey's on an award
Speaker 1: winning show for once, what you call it a time.
Speaker 1: It's like he found the soft spot at the back.
Speaker 1: And then I was gonna get old Adam, and Adam
Speaker 1: softened me up that quick. Yeah, what's up? Adams know
Speaker 1: that much? Man? Hey, guys, after that Titan's loss, you know,
Speaker 1: we were always questioning this team, and I think over
Speaker 1: the last month they've answered those questions. I think Sundays
Speaker 1: the time to start making some statements. My question though,
Speaker 1: that hurts me and he scares me, so met what
Speaker 1: can what can we do defensively? Because you know, they
Speaker 1: find a way obviously reminds me of witness. They lead
Speaker 1: him a lot in the backfield. He just see it's
Speaker 1: just always there at the sticks. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: a point of attack. I figured this out. Watch the film,
Speaker 1: go back on y'all twenty two. What they do is
Speaker 1: they read that linebacker. That's to his side, especially as
Speaker 1: if he's off the ball, if that linebacker take two
Speaker 1: or three steps up at all to come at the run,
Speaker 1: he just snatches out and throws it and earth. And
Speaker 1: this is one thing they messed up. They let us
Speaker 1: hive audio during the game. He would call him, he
Speaker 1: would call him, you know, he would call his quarter
Speaker 1: that win wins, wins, and you know, to let him
Speaker 1: know to snatch it out because they own the same office. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's that obvious. What we have to do is and
Speaker 1: this is kind of hard to do because they got
Speaker 1: to get office. Line is our front four has to
Speaker 1: handle that. They have to be able to if they're
Speaker 1: confident that they can stop that run, if they confident
Speaker 1: they can stop that run, because there's three options, and
Speaker 1: this is the third option that he doesn't do anymore.
Speaker 1: Remember Winz used to pull it out and run a
Speaker 1: little bit because it was give it to the tucking
Speaker 1: into the back, looking looking at the at the tight
Speaker 1: end and if if that linebacker come up two or
Speaker 1: three feet, he was gonna snatch it out where if
Speaker 1: you haven't blocked all the way, then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he'll pull it out. If that linebacker stage back.
Speaker 1: He'll pull it out some time and take off. Well,
Speaker 1: now they don't. He don't take off as much. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't do that against us, but
Speaker 1: our defensive line has to be able to handle that.
Speaker 1: That way, our linebacker can stand there and make them
Speaker 1: make a decision. But that's hard when you teach linebackers
Speaker 1: to what take two steps forward? Thanks for car ad him.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man. I was looking at that and
Speaker 1: when they when I was looking at the game, he said,
Speaker 1: winz winz winz. And really they didn't. The announcers did
Speaker 1: not elaborate on I say, man, and they best to
Speaker 1: friends tell Ben Bloom, man, man, they should know that.
Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it is they know it.
Speaker 1: But some things, man work to perfection. But now can
Speaker 1: you take it all the way down the field and
Speaker 1: not miss? And they weren't able to do that in
Speaker 1: the last game. This this kind of touches into something.
Speaker 1: My question I want to ask you now, um, how
Speaker 1: big of a deal is it that you're facing this
Speaker 1: You're now seeing a team a second time. I mean, man,
Speaker 1: you pretty much known each other already. Is an advantage
Speaker 1: for the offense defense? I mean doesn't matter. Dog fight.
Speaker 1: You know each other, you know, it's who is what
Speaker 1: I think when you play the second time, especially with
Speaker 1: everything that's on the table, it's just who's gonna play
Speaker 1: attention to detail and who's gonna play the smartest. That's
Speaker 1: what I believe in because they ain't gonna change much.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a rinker here and a Rinka,
Speaker 1: then we'll have a rinker here Rinka that. Whether it's
Speaker 1: noticed by the public or not, we won't know. But
Speaker 1: fetch you. Cox loves to bully you, over arm, swim you.
Speaker 1: H like he gonna bully and try to turn in
Speaker 1: the speed corner. He'd been doing this for three years. Now,
Speaker 1: what is he going to do different? I thought? Jason
Speaker 1: answered that he actually answered that question. I can't remember
Speaker 1: if it was during the press conference or the walkoff,
Speaker 1: and he's basically, I think what he was trying to
Speaker 1: say from a skill standpoint, Yeah, you know each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what Nate can do. He knows what I
Speaker 1: can do. But it's five games ago or four games ago,
Speaker 1: and teams change and they're not gonna have the same
Speaker 1: game plan and they're not going to have maybe the
Speaker 1: same tendency, so that part of it change. You may
Speaker 1: know the talent level, the skill, but you don't know
Speaker 1: really what they're going to do, because everybody changes from
Speaker 1: game to game to game. So I don't know that
Speaker 1: playing him a second time makes a big difference. I mean,
Speaker 1: Nate can tell you you had to sometimes end up
Speaker 1: playing three times, right Holdelphia in the Playfay. This is
Speaker 1: where it gets you. Most coaches go a four game block.
Speaker 1: They don't want to go past four games because they
Speaker 1: figured if you changing, it's only about two teams in
Speaker 1: the league or three teams in the league can do
Speaker 1: what New England do. New England would change like a
Speaker 1: million or most teams can't do that. Even Kansas City,
Speaker 1: they don't do a whole lot of different change. You
Speaker 1: go back and look at the rams, they ain't changing
Speaker 1: a whole lot. But what coaches are doing is stay
Speaker 1: within that four game block. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: coaches are looking at themselves, what have we done? So
Speaker 1: that's why I say they'll run seventy percent of that
Speaker 1: offense the same and then thirty percent of They may
Speaker 1: give you with formations or they may give you some wrinkles,
Speaker 1: you know, but I know who Fletcher Cox is and
Speaker 1: ain't much he can do on third and five. You
Speaker 1: can do a game? Are you coming at yea? Because
Speaker 1: situation of football brings you the back of what you know.
Speaker 1: Because what's Mickey, what is? What scared us coaches more
Speaker 1: than anything is to try something new and not with
Speaker 1: it right. Yeah. So a lot of coaches try something new,
Speaker 1: but as soon as they see it going haywire, we'll
Speaker 1: get rid of Paul Alexander and bring in another. But
Speaker 1: when you are facing that team that second time, then
Speaker 1: is it more on the coaches to shift up the
Speaker 1: scheme a little bit or the players have to I
Speaker 1: just have to execute better because they know me and
Speaker 1: any of them. They have advanced scout that you know,
Speaker 1: you've been up in the press box where you see
Speaker 1: the other team. Guys up there, Mick, you see it
Speaker 1: all the time where you see the other team. They
Speaker 1: have advanced scout and said, wow, you know the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are doing something a little bit different. You know, uh
Speaker 1: this game here, they did this, they did that, and
Speaker 1: Van this is totally different than last time. So now
Speaker 1: the coaches work on that, but they ain't gonna spend
Speaker 1: a whole lot of times and hey, man, dat n
Speaker 1: did this is different? This is different different. They can't
Speaker 1: work on all of it the practice. Ain't that loan
Speaker 1: to league? Doing a lot of a normal at two
Speaker 1: hours and fifty minute practice. Yeah, Sometimes I think teams
Speaker 1: just run a play, yeah, set it up for the
Speaker 1: next week, and it's like, oh, we saw what they
Speaker 1: did on that trick plate. Now I got to spend
Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah, and you waste five minutes because they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna run it again. It's just the show, right,
Speaker 1: And then it cost you to if you run a
Speaker 1: sweep option, end around pass or whatever, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we gotta practice that now. See, because this is what
Speaker 1: I had problems during the year, trying to during the
Speaker 1: summer time, always trying to absorb these big as big
Speaker 1: play almost cussed these big playbooks. But as soon as
Speaker 1: the season start, we had like twenty five run plays
Speaker 1: at the most, and that's over over stating it. We'll
Speaker 1: have maybe ten run plays and now the past plays
Speaker 1: that will be different. But that was for the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: We just only had to worry about protections. So we
Speaker 1: have four or five protections and now I'm sitting happy
Speaker 1: because I'm like, Wow, I'm glad we're over trading cap.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because all these new plays,
Speaker 1: this is who we are. Well, the Cowboys have a
Speaker 1: bigger playbook now, and their weekly playbook gets bigger than
Speaker 1: what hours was. So these guys got to know all
Speaker 1: of this. But still you have staple plays. Especially when
Speaker 1: we were winning them first eight weeks when we were
Speaker 1: looking real bad, they had like maybe twenty play Like,
Speaker 1: let's get good at these twenty plays. So now when
Speaker 1: the teams say, oh, we knew what it was gonna run, yeah,
Speaker 1: because we was a bad team, Well we're running them
Speaker 1: same plays with a little bit more formations. Now we
Speaker 1: get Now what makes us god, i mean, nobody was open. Well,
Speaker 1: what makes our guys open now is Cooper can play
Speaker 1: the slot on both sides. Cooper can play both outside.
Speaker 1: He goes in motion. So that that's why Tonio Brown
Speaker 1: running wide open. That's why uh uh, the kid from
Speaker 1: Atlanta running because you can't cover every position they're gonna play. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why we was it was easy for us to
Speaker 1: cover days that in his career, right, nice, And that
Speaker 1: was on him, Yeah, that was not on the coaching
Speaker 1: staff him. You know, it was on the coaching staff
Speaker 1: because they should at least made him have an option,
Speaker 1: but he didn't want an option. So, well, boys, we've
Speaker 1: reached one thirty. I can't you should get remote Mickey's
Speaker 1: show tonight. Mickey's got a show tonight. Micky's got on
Speaker 1: Cowboys Legend show, uh tonight, and our guest will be
Speaker 1: homegrown Patrick Crayton. Nice up in the Cowboys Club. You
Speaker 1: know what man I showed you? Well, I remember me
Speaker 1: and Mickey should do that show together? Yeah, me, Mickey?
Speaker 1: Who it was? Who it was? Always? Bill was me
Speaker 1: and you for a while there. Yeah, and then Bill came. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bill barged in on Nate. Nate would get that crowd
Speaker 1: stirred up at all. It didn't matter what we had
Speaker 1: was winning season, a losing season. We'll be having some
Speaker 1: bo We went from Hooters to Buffalo wild Ways to
Speaker 1: promote it up to the to the Gay Lord and
Speaker 1: now Cowboys Club, great high tone. Now Rayton is not
Speaker 1: afraid to speak his mind. No, I don't know what
Speaker 1: he's up to these days. It'll be interesting. Tune in
Speaker 1: and yeah a little bit, we'll find that out. Nice,
Speaker 1: all right, later on this very channel. Very good, all right, sir, Well, Mickey,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming in. Sure, this was fun. Thanks for thanks.
Speaker 1: Glad to be on our award winning talking to her.
Speaker 1: You go. Thank you, Adam Douglas, Thank you for doing
Speaker 1: your magic back there, and we're trying to poke the
Speaker 1: bear over here with Mickey. You don't appreciate that, that's
Speaker 1: all right, can't. Thanks for doing what you do. Everybody
Speaker 1: else back there helping us out. Nate. I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: my man. We'll be right back tomorrow. Shannon. I hope
Speaker 1: you're feeling better. Get you. I'll get you on this side, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I hope you feel better, Shannon. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. We'll see you tomorrow. This is good. A
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