1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartradiotshas Katie. 3 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Did you ever smoke cigarettes? 4 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: No, only in like movies. I would sort of a 5 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: few days before a week before I because I wanted 6 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: it to look real, and I did it, But I 7 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: never got hooked. I never smoked them in real life. 8 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: Wow, oh yeah you did. Oh yeah. My early twenties 9 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: was just like me thinking I was cool and like 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: doing theater and being in like theater, majoring in theater. 11 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: And it was like at experimental theater wing where we 12 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: would just roll around the floor naked and keep taking 13 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: cigarette breaks. 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: Make noises, like become like different animals and trees. 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like making out and everybody was like had 16 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: very fluid sexuality. I love your shirt. I'd like to 17 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: also note at the airing of this podcast that Gambo's 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: wearing the most wonderful shirt that says homosexual tendencies with 19 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: a like a skeleton. 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: Explain this the skeleton with a leather jacket and a 21 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: leather hat. Smoking a joint. I say it's a joint. 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: It could be a cigarette or a cigar. I think 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: it's a joint. 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: Who is the brand. 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: It's from a Lockwood fifty one. It's a queer brand 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: that does a lot of really cool, sort of edgy provocative, 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: like real sort of skateboarding. You know, Cake, gay Quel, 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: all that skateboarding you do, Yeah, for all that skateboarding 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: at but they have really really cool cool stuff. 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: Hey, but you know what we do do? That's a 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: nice scandal. Do you do what we do? 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: Do? 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: Dooty, what do we do? We are fucking good scooters 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: scooting people. 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: We do give a good scoot we do. 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: And this is a nice scandal. Fun fact. Scott Foley 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: is a rap gift or a season premiere gift, I 38 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: can't remember. One of the fucking greatest, smartest, most amazing 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: gifts ever. He gave everybody a razor I think, yes, yep, 40 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: which is like adult scooter. And our base camp was 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: like a little bit further from our stages, and so 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: we scooted from stage to base camp where are where 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: our trailers are. And it's the greatest, it's one of 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: the best. See you live in the hills, g you 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: don't get to do this. But I use that scooter 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: a couple times a week because I scooted with Ali. 47 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to come scoot with me. 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: My scooter's been in the garage for years because you're right, Yeah, 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: it's fine because it was on a shelf that was 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: so good. 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you Scott Foley for this gift. But 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: my son is a huge scooter person. He scoots with 53 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: his little fucking helmet. He's fast, ast shit. He does tricks, 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: he does circles, he does squatting one leg, I believe it. 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: And I scooted with him everywhere on that Scott fully scooter. Wow. 56 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: Do you guys wear helmets? Oh? Yeah, fuck that shit. 57 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: I would wear a helmet too. I'm just thinking back 58 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: in like Washington Heights, like on a skateboarder, So we 59 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: didn't even have scooters back then or skates, like no 60 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: elbow pads, no helmets, nothing. People were scraped up and 61 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: falling on their heads. 62 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 2: And I like to scoot without a helmet. I like 63 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: to run on the danger sign. But to be honest, 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: then Albi goes, how come you're wearing I have that helmet? 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: And you do? I think I think it's it's necessary. 66 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: And he's actually taken some fucking spills, so I'm like, yeah, yeah, 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: which is fine. I don't mind scraped ups. But like 68 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: he's wearing a helmet. 69 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hell yah. There's another gift from Scott Foley 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: and it's a framed photograph of my parking spot. 71 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: God damn it, Scot Foley. Those were two exceptional gifts. 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: They were like like unique and creative. 73 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: Did they super aarty, black and white big prince of 74 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: our parking spots with our name on it? Wait? Did 75 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: your say mindsets k dot load? 76 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: Did you're saying just yeah, that's it? Yeah, But it's cool. 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: It's simple, it's like you know, it's it's clean, it's crisp, 78 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: it's it's such a cool, very arty, it's such a 79 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: cool piece. 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: And it's such a statement, like you know, when you're 81 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: an actor coming up and it's a real shit show. 82 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: It's such a status symbol of making it that you 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: don't even realize how huge it is until you get 84 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: a parking spot on a Hollywood studio a lot that 85 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: has your name like spray painted onto it. That's your 86 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: parking spot. No one else is allowed to park in it, 87 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: and it is such a god it's such a moment. 88 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: Well you think, all right, this is this is permanent. 89 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: That this is pretty permanent. I mean, of course they 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: got paint over that shit in two seconds. But in 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: our heads we think, all right, they like us, they 92 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: really like us, they want us to stay. 93 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: They like me, you really like me. It's the same 94 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: as the status of getting a back of a chair. Also, Hollywood, 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: if you're on a show, you get your cast chair 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: that you sit in while you're waiting until your scene 97 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: is ready to shoot. And also along the back of 98 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: it is usually your name. 99 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have mine right here? Did you keep your 100 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: you do? Yeah? I have a director in my room. 101 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: Oh you do. 102 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to reach back because I'm going to 103 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: fall on my head. Yeah, I have it right, I 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: have it right here beyond you. And it says scandal 105 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: and like the you know, like when you yeah. 106 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the red shredded paper. 107 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, gave them to us. Yeah. 108 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: After we wrapped, we also had scandal warming coats. 109 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh I didn't keep that. 110 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: I didn't either, and god damn it, I wish I had. 111 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: But look, we keep it real here on unpacking the 112 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: toolbox up. Now, tell the people, Tell the people, Tell 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: the gladiators what we're talking about today, which is episode 114 00:05:54,800 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: two eight entitled Happy Birthday, Mister President, which aired on 115 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: December sixth, twenty twelve. 116 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: And it was written by the Shonda Rhymes. 117 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's why this one's so fucking hot, okay. 118 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: And it was directed by Oliver Bolckelberg, who was our cinematographer, 119 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: our DP for years and then he started directing a 120 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: bunch of episodes. He's amazing. 121 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 2: That's right, he's amazing. It was guest starring Kate Burton 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: as Vice President Sally Langston, Norm Lewis as Senator Edited 123 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: Edison Davis, Bryan Lesher Is Tom Samantha Sloyan as Janine, 124 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: Stony Westmoreland as Hal Virginia, Louise Smith as Secretary of State. 125 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Kavita Pattil as Doctor Number four, Kiko a Jenna as 126 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Press Secretary Britta Kagan, Troy Winbush as Mars Lcott, Stephen 127 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: Collins as Reed Wallace, and Tyreese Allen as Doctor Carroll. 128 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: Wow. I'm very excited to talk to me about this 129 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: episode because Shonda, she wrote the shit out of this episode. 130 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: It's an oldie, but a goodie. 131 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a banger. It's really fucking chock full, as 132 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: they all are but this one really okay, let's remind you, 133 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: let's jog you gladiators and your memory banks about what's 134 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: going on. So this is what's happening. In two o eight, 135 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: Happy Birthday, Misster President, the hospital is a buzz. In 136 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: the aftermath of Fits being shot, Olivia remembers the end 137 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: of the campaign trail and a significant pin she gifted 138 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: to Fits during his inauguration. In the present, Sally Langston 139 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: makes a play for a position as acting president, which 140 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: Cyrus and Olivia must shut down. 141 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: In the past, we follow Fitz and Olivia's escalating affair 142 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: during the days following Fitz's election, with some frightening results 143 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: as Hollis takes care of a reporter looking into defiance. 144 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: The tension the affair and the lengths that Hollis and 145 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: Cyrus will go to scares Olivia into resigning. 146 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: And finally, as Sally has sworn in his acting president, 147 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: we see who the suspected shooter is. Well. The episode 148 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: starts we're right where President Grant was shot, and we 149 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: are in the hospital, and we're seeing the whole gore, 150 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: and the whole perspective is from Olivia's and Bogelberg does 151 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: the best fucking cinematography DP work where he just slow 152 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: mows the entire hospital scene, so that Live is seeing 153 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: blood dripping on the floor, she's seeing Melly fucking screaming 154 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: at people, she's seeing Cyrus, she's seeing like everything is 155 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: slow mo. And you and I was brought to like 156 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: an emotional place. 157 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, he does. And he does that, like 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: you said, with the camera work. Even the shooting of 159 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: the president is done in such an amazing, like innovative way. 160 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: It's almost sped up, right, Yeah, like he speeds up. 161 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: It's the film shooting. 162 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like really weird. It's so powerful though. 163 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see it's like the blood spray too, 164 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: when you see them sort of get hit by the bullets. 165 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god. And we see Edison calls Olivia and 166 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: he's they're throwing him in the bunker and he's calling it. 167 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 2: He's like, what's going on? Live, Like they're putting me 168 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: in the bunker. And then I just wrote the line 169 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: Carrie's dress is amazing. 170 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Oh man, I didn't look up who made that dress, 171 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: but the dress is amazing. 172 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so ridiculous, Lin Paolo, It's like 173 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: it's insane, and she's got her hair all pressed out, 174 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: and she's got this like ridiculously beautiful, flowy white of 175 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: course dress that has like sparkly. 176 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: In the front right on her booby. It's so fucking 177 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: fucking Edison. I was like, Oh, here's Edison again. I 178 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: had a question, had not Edison again? Jeez? How long 179 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: do they have to stay in that bunker? Those people 180 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: like they're like, let's go, We're gonna hide you guys away, 181 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: which happens in real life? Like this is crazy. 182 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, like if this were to well, I'm like, 183 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: if this were actually happened, this has actually happened. I 184 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: have no idea what protocol looks like in terms of 185 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 2: like I think they probably have to that's probably be 186 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna trust the scandal writers and say that this 187 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: shit is based in truth. They probably have to take 188 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House and they have to take 189 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: Congress or I don't know, and throw them in a 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: fucking bunker to make sure democracy like isn't right and 191 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: like the whole place isn't under attack. 192 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, also, because the shooter is still 193 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: at large, right, they didn't catch the shooter so in 194 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: that case, I could see how they have to hide 195 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: these people away because if they're all killed, then we're 196 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: just you know, thrown into chaos. 197 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: Chaos. 198 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, sometimes nobody shot and we're still in chaos. 199 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: Okay. So then we see what causes the whole backstory 200 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: to unlock, is that we see the pin, this beautiful 201 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: American flag pin that fell off, you know, during the shooting. 202 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: We see what the origin of this pin story is, 203 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: which is Olivia gave Fits this pin on his inauguration day, 204 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: and we learned that the pin was actually an Eisenhower pin, 205 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: and it's so fucking smart, Shonda rhymes, of course she 206 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: wrote this episode. 207 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful, it's so beautiful. But of course, the 208 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: minute that Mellie walks in and sees the pin in 209 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: the flashback, you know scene on fits his lapel and 210 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, where'd you get that? And he was like, 211 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: oh was Eisenhower's motherfucker's lying to her already, Ja. 212 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: Is lying to Melly. She's just like, where's this pin from? 213 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: And they don't even say like, oh, Olivia got it 214 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: for me, or. 215 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Like he just said, oh, it belonged to Eisenhower and 216 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: that was it. 217 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: She but that pin she learns in this episode having 218 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: an affair. 219 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she learns. 220 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: This is the episode where Melly figures it out because 221 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: of that fucking pin, so he's sworn in. We see 222 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: a fight between James and Jeff James and Jeff James 223 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: and Cyrus because James can't go to the inaugural balls 224 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: because Cyrus isn't out yet that he's in a committed relation, 225 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: committed homosexual relationship. 226 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: And Olivia is sort of lurking in the hallway like 227 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: hearing this argument right. 228 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: Right, And then Fitz goes to the inaugural balls and 229 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: all that, but guess what he leaves early and he 230 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: meets Olivia Pope in the oval Oof office and she says, 231 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: mister President, I could never shoot a scene like this 232 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: with a straight face. 233 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: Doesn't he say say it again or something like that, 234 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: mister President? 235 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: She say it again and she says, mister President. 236 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Trying to get those inaugural balls worked up? 237 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah's right? Then the ass inaugural old balls. All the 238 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: crazy thing is like I the whole time, this scene 239 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: is so hot because and we know because we had 240 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: Shonda Rhimes as guest on this first and the first 241 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: episode of this podcast we ever did, and she said, 242 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have Olivia and Fitz have sex on the 243 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: desk in the Oval office. Well, here you have it, folks, 244 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: because Fitz gets down on his knees and he goes 245 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: to sloppy third yo. 246 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: But if first, Olivia is a resisting, resisting, resisting, and 247 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: she's like, we cannot do this anymore. She even says, 248 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: look at where we are. We can't do this anymore. 249 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: We have to stop. And I love when Fitz is like, no, 250 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: I can't stop. I'm not gonna stop. Can you stop? 251 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: And she's like m mmm. And that's when she saddles 252 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: on the desk and he just that skirt up real cute, 253 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: real slow. She's like, oh so hot. 254 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: Could they have shot this scene? I would have broken 255 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: one thousand, wouldn't have made it past calling him mister 256 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: President with a straight face like there's no fucking way 257 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: in hell. So kudos to carry Washington. 258 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: Kudos, yes, But it's it's a steamy, steamy, fucking scene. 259 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: It goes there like she's unbuckling his belt, he has 260 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: her hand up her skirt like you could see it. 261 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: It's it's super like it. 262 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: Was for like network television. I mean the ones are 263 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: where a ten PM show? 264 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: No wonder we were, I mean. 265 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: It was it was really really hot, and I was uncomfortable. 266 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: I like look away a couple times because I was. 267 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: Like, I know these people, you know what Katie I 268 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: did the how stupid? I was like, how stupid are you? Girmo, 269 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: why are you like looking down? Like I literally caught 270 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: myself looking. 271 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: Down at it too. It was like too much to ta, Yes, 272 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: it's too much to take. I think I wonder if 273 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: our gladiators listening felt that way. They probably were right 274 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: there with them. But I think it's probably because we 275 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: personally know the two of them and it's fucking weird, 276 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean, it's just bizarre. And then we 277 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: backflashed to the present day. Sally's acting president and it's 278 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: all on news channels and she fucking lands on the 279 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: front lawn of the White House, which is such a 280 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: power play move. She lands on the front steps and 281 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: Olivia steps up and she starts fixing. She basically leaves 282 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: Opa and all the White House staff comes in and 283 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: they're like, are you back, And she's like, go to 284 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: my house, get my suits, get my outfits. Get my 285 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: toothbrush on back. 286 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Yo, I wrote in my notes Homegirl listed off 287 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: like eight things. I was like, wait, what bring my suits, 288 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: my stockis, my socks, my toothbrush, my my my onesie, like. 289 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: What my songs, my underwear, my toothbrush, my flat iron, 290 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: my Cricks concealer, my moistrising. And that's funny because I 291 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: heard it and I was like, oh wow, that's really not. 292 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: A lot like conservative. You were like yeah. 293 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: I just was like, oh wow, that's like exactly what 294 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: someone would need to be at work for four or 295 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: five days and nothing more. And also they listed no makeup, 296 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, yeah, Kerry Washington doesn't need any makeup. 297 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: She's fucking perfect. 298 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: Oh. 299 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: There's tons of going back to after he's been elected president, 300 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: but he's preparing for his inauguration day and he's preparing 301 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: for his inauguration speech. They go and move to Camp 302 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: David to prep his inauguration speech. And the reason they 303 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: do this is because that night on the Oval office 304 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: in the desk was caught on the camera and Fitz 305 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: is running with his navy shirt and Hal is like, 306 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: there are cameras, sir, and he's like what He's like, 307 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: there's cameras, and Fits is like, where am I going 308 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: to go to? Like, yeah, fuck my woman as much 309 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: as I. 310 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Want, yes, but I love that Fits has sort of 311 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: his first reaction is like, oh shit, there's cameras. They 312 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: saw everything. But then he's like, Okay, where are there 313 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: not cameras? Like he's like, I want to know where 314 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: I can screw in the White House. I was like, oh. 315 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: Man, they move Cyrus, Olivia and Fits but not Melly 316 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: to Camp David so that they could just like write 317 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: and work on his speech and his plan of his 318 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: first hundred days and do it. 319 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: This is all in the flashback, right. 320 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: Flashwake, But like there's gotta be cameras in Camp David. 321 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: This is total bullshit. I call bullshit on this, right. 322 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Man, I don't fucking know. But also, is that like 323 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: a you know what I mean? Is that like fucking 324 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: with someone's privacy if the cameras are like inside like 325 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: in the bedroom, and like you know what I mean, 326 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: maybe there aren't. Maybe there are cameras. 327 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah in the bedroom, in the bathrooms they can 328 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: now right there's there, yeah, right, so that they could 329 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: they couldn't screw in the bedrooms in the White House 330 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: because Melly's in there. Right, that's right, I get it. 331 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: I get it. Okay, okay. So they're having so much 332 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: sex and it's so cute. They're laughing, they're coming up 333 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: with his plans for the first hundred days. They're arguing, but. 334 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: It likes up against the wall. 335 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: She's pushing against no you, no you, no you gives 336 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: me a gag. 337 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: But it's hot. It's hot. They're naked, like, yeah, it's 338 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: it's so steamy, it's so it's a lot. 339 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: It's really cute. And then that all comes to a big, 340 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: fat end because Nelly shows up at Can't David with 341 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: a nice cooked lasagna. 342 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: This motherfucker said, h I live. 343 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: She's like, how the dinner? The kids went to school, 344 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: and I figured I would just like check up on 345 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: how it's going. 346 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: And it's that look on his face like, oh God, 347 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: I did this is not my doing. 348 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: Live and Live is like feels like the other woman. 349 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, really is the other woman. 350 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: She feels really bad, and so he's pissed. She's pissed. 351 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: She's pissed. She's pissed, and they haven't really spoken in 352 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: a few days. They returned back to the White House. 353 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: They're not talking, and this is actually a huge moment 354 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: for Scandal, I feel like, because fits is like, what's wrong, 355 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: what's going on? And She's like, you know what I'm feeling, 356 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: just really Sally Hemmings Thomas Jefferson about this? 357 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: Is that what was? Tell me what that? Tell me? 358 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: What that is? 359 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: Well, Sally Hemmings was the black slave that Thomas Jefferson 360 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: was in love with. Oh sh and I'm pretty sure 361 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: I want to say she had some babies, but she 362 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: is the black slave that Thomas Jefferson was sleeping with 363 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 2: for I think a really long time. I think he 364 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: was like in love with her. 365 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: And they loved each other, like they truly loved each other. 366 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: So Sally Hemmings had five babies with's Thomas Jefferson. Yeah. 367 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: And so what I think is so amazing about Scandal 368 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 2: is like, this is episode two oh eight, and so 369 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: we've been watching an affair between a white president and 370 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: a black woman for fifteen episodes, and this is the 371 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: first time that Shonda is bringing up this very very 372 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: very famous relationship that in some ways like really mirrors 373 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: what's going on here. I remember being on the show 374 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: at the beginning and being like, I wonder if it's 375 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: ever going to be addressed, Like I wonder if race 376 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: is ever going to be addressed in dialogue, Like is 377 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: Carrie ever going to say or Olivia ever going to 378 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: say something like, oh, my god, not only you are 379 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: a president and I'm a civilian, but like I'm a 380 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: black woman and you're a white guy. And it was 381 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: not mentioned until this line, And my god, Shonda nails 382 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: it so hard. They're in this horrible fight and she's like, 383 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: for the first time, I'm feeling like a fucking piece 384 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: of shit, Like I'm feeling like like a slave to you. 385 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: But also, if I'm not mistaken, Katie, it was. Race 386 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: was never brought up again. I mean, it might have been. 387 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I don't think it was. 388 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: It was really they made it a thing which I really. 389 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: Loved, not in their relationship. We did it for the 390 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: lawn Chair episode with forty b bands. We talked about 391 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: police brutality, We talked about that there. 392 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: If it's in. 393 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: Olivia, no, this is I want to say. I mean again, 394 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: guys listening, we've only watched the first two seasons of Scandal, 395 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: so we'll correct ourselves if when we're wrong, but it's 396 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: really my only memory of it too. We will be 397 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: back with more after the break. 398 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Katie tell me, is this the scene where she says, 399 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: we can't do this? Like and fit has this ridiculously 400 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: fucking the best acting I've seen, so fucking that's coming. 401 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: The best acting on the show is coming right now. 402 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: So she gets in his face in the hallway and 403 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: she says, like really quietly, like in his face, like 404 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm feeling really sallly hmming is Thomas 405 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: Jefferson about this whole thing right now? And he is 406 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: taken aback, like you see him like this, And then 407 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: again we don't see them together until like the fucking 408 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: winning scene of this episode, in one of the greatest scenes. 409 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: It is the garden scene Gladiators, that's what we're talking about, 410 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: and he to Tony Goldwin's acting in this is. 411 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: You can see his like lip quivering and his eyes 412 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: are watery. It's like beyond like fucking kiss. 413 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: I didn't write some of the writing in this, that 414 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: Shonda rope, but it's like she Olivia is saying to 415 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: him and the Rose Garden like I can't do this anymore. 416 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: I can't live like this. All I live, breathe and 417 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: thinking is your thoughts. You own me, and it's all 418 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: about this slavery thing. It's like bringing about this slavery situation, 419 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: like you own me. She says, like I can't do 420 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: anything you want me. I'm there. You want me to 421 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: next to you, I'm there. You tell me to meet you, 422 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: I meet you like I've lost myself. 423 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: You owe me sooga. But then Fitz says, and I 424 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: did write down some of these lines. 425 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: He tell me, maybe tell me, tell me belongs. 426 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: You own me. You're the love of my life. I 427 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: belong to you. And he oh, looks so fucking good. 428 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: And she's like, what the fuck? But you know, at 429 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: the same time, it's making her fall in love with 430 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: him even more. Oh my, because she's like, oh my god, 431 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: this guy really really loves me. He fucking he nails 432 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: this scene. I mean they both do, him and Olivia, 433 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: but it's this. This was my favorite scene in this episode. 434 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 2: Me too. This is the winning scene. This is krem 435 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: dela Creme and honestly one of the best, most passionate. 436 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: You know why this scene is so amazing and why 437 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: it's because we believe and know that they love each 438 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: other so much despite race, fite president not president, despite 439 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: despite it all, it's like they are sick in love 440 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: with each other, and like they're acting and her writing 441 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: and the commo of it all and being a prose 442 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: garden is like till the end of time people were 443 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: olits through and. 444 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: Through and again we've we've mentioned there's a million times, 445 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: but the chemistry between Tony Goldwin and Kerry Washington is 446 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: just it's you know, it's spectacular, like if that wasn't there, 447 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: And of course including Seanna's writing and the act all 448 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: of it, but their chemistry is just so present. It's 449 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: so real that you can't you can't look away. You 450 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: believe it, You believe it one hundred percent, you know 451 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. 452 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: Oh god, Tony's acting, it's so good. You own me, 453 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: you own me, I belong to you. 454 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sick too. 455 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: I can't eat, I can't think, I can't like all 456 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: this shit. 457 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: Is made me cry. Oh my, oh man, it's so good. 458 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: But again, and Olivia has that look on her face 459 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: like like she cannot believe the words that are coming 460 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: out of his mouth, but she's loving. 461 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: We should start. I just had a real brain inspiration. 462 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: I think we should start re enacting other characters scenes 463 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: from this, says Quinn and Hauck, or is just Katie 464 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: and Geirmo because I love. 465 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: That so much and I think our listeners will love it. 466 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: Just think. 467 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: Joe Morton, some of those monologues. 468 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: I want to be Sally Langston, like sh talk about 469 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: great acting. You hate her more than ever in this episode, 470 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: like she is a hateful, hateful double woman. 471 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: That's horrible to tell you, guys, what Sally Langston is 472 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: doing in this fucking episode. So she was promised on 473 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: the campaign trail that she was going to nominate the 474 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: next Supreme Court justice. But ha HAA a little bit 475 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: of a conflict here is that Verna Thornton was promised 476 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: for being part of the goons who rigged the election, 477 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: that she would be the next Supreme Court nominee. So 478 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: they've got a lead little bit of an issue, and 479 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 2: fucking Cap Burton has a monologue where she comes into 480 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: Cyrus and Olivia where they have killed her Supreme Court nominee. 481 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: They've put in some like they let it be known 482 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: that he was arrested when he was fifteen, So there's 483 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: no way that her nominee would be elected. And she 484 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: comes in and she's so pissed. She was like, they 485 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: found this on campounds that's supposed to be locked, and 486 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: I know who did it. It was you. It was 487 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: you, you did it. 488 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: And her voice Katie reaches a pitch that I have 489 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: never heard before. 490 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: It was yes, it's like very animalistic rage. 491 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, wait he got very. 492 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: What you said animalistic like an animals like it was crazy. 493 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: It was so crazy. 494 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: And it was It also made me think, okay, homegirl 495 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: says a Supreme Court justice nominie cannot come back from 496 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: that I'm air quoting scandal, which was like he committed 497 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: a little crime when he was fifteen. Meanwhile, now thinking 498 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: too thousand fucking you know twenty twenty, twenty two, twenty three, 499 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: like the shit, that's the scandals that are happening within 500 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court justices and they're already on the bench 501 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: and nothing. Nobody's bat in an eye, you know what 502 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: I mean. Shit is still moving along like always. Nobody's 503 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: getting kicked off. So it's just funny to see these 504 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: scenes in this you know, here and nowhere. 505 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: It was like people are they they were writing the 506 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: show to have some moral compass. Of course, we even 507 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: though Olivia Pope kills someone with a chair, but like whatever. 508 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: But also Katie, like, during this time, it still wasn't 509 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: crazy in our world. So it was it was real, 510 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? This shit was it was real. 511 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: Yes, And then Sally's all pissed. They go to Melly 512 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: and they say, Sally Langston is making a play for 513 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: the White House. She just landed on the lawn. Go 514 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: leave this hospital, find something to wear, get on the 515 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: podium and tell the American people that we don't need 516 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: Sally Langston. Our president is still alive in kicking. Don't 517 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: pretend like he's not. And my god, does Melli it 518 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: up her pull on her bootstraps. 519 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: Yo, tell Mellie that she can maybe not be in 520 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the White House anymore, and that bitch will be like, 521 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: what do I have to do? She like she like 522 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: she conjured up some inn and was like, yeah, I'm 523 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: gonna shut this down. 524 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: Animal, she's a political animal. But getting ready for that, 525 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: Olivia has to go and get her clothes of what 526 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: she's gonna wear, and so she walks past all of 527 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: Fit's clothes and he's like in the midst of possibly dying, 528 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: and she sees that navy sweatshirt, you know, the one 529 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: that says Navy on it, and she just gives it 530 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: a whiff and cries. 531 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: Oh, she said she gave it, gives it a whiff 532 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: and cries, she sure does. 533 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: Man. 534 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: That's another there's a lot of powerful scenes in this episode. 535 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: When she takes that whiff from that that sweatshirt. Yo, Katie, 536 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: did you notice? And that see she breaks down, but 537 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: then she has this moment where she's like, she stiffens 538 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: up and she's like, I cannot do this shit. Pull 539 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: it together, Olivia, And she pulls herself together, and she 540 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: shakes the sweatshirt and folds it really sort of sternly 541 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: and puts it. Oh it was so good. 542 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's so amazing, bringing it back to the 543 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: Sally Hemmings Thomas Jefferson line of it all when she 544 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: is smelling the navy sweatshirt. After that, we flashed back 545 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: to inauguration time and Fitz has invited Olivia to look 546 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: at the Constitution and they touch it and it says 547 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: we the People. And at the time of the Constitution, 548 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: black people weren't included in We the people, and I 549 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: can't help but think, like that's what was so cool 550 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: about this episode is like Fitz is like touch it 551 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: and she's like, no, I'm not going to touch it, 552 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: and he's like touch it, and it's like so cute, 553 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: how the whole dialogue is so durable, and she's like, no, you, 554 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: let's touch it together, and he's like, I already touched 555 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: I already was the person who touched it. 556 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: I already touched it, touching it. 557 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: I've been touching it. And then she touches it, and 558 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, like I really had a moment like 559 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: to see a TV show where a black woman touches 560 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: the constitation you see her finger, like yes, yes, you 561 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: see her finger touched the Constitution where it was like 562 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: all these white men who wrote it, and I don't know, 563 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm so glad Shonda wrote this episode and wrote it 564 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: like this. And I mean I was moved like multiple 565 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: times over. I just was like super moved and really 566 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: felt and proud. 567 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: I felt really proud, yeah to be on the show 568 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: because in moments like this. 569 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: Like I was such a small cog in the wheel 570 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: of this show that was yes, it was like you know, 571 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: water cooler and OMG moments and binge worthy and we 572 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: were tweeting and all the things. But what's so great 573 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: about Shonda Rhymes is that she was actually also like 574 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: moving the needle in the way that she knows how 575 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: you know. 576 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some real stuff in these in these 577 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: episodes that were lessons too or or reminders that people 578 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: needed to be reminded of certain things, and she does 579 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: it in such a beautiful way. But I feel like 580 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: there's a story behind when they shot that scene. Did 581 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: they shoot that? I feel like, did they shoot that 582 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: scene in They couldn't have shot that in DC? Right? 583 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: No? 584 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: That I don't think is that recreated that? 585 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Totally, I think. I mean I could be wrong, 586 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: but I think I don't think we ever. I don't 587 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: think anyone ever went to d C until the final 588 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: the second to final episode of the whole series. 589 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 590 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: But it was fucking real. Yeah, I mean did they 591 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: did a great job. And when they do touch the Constitution, 592 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: she cries and says, I'm in love with you too, 593 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: and it's over the Constitution and it's so lovely. 594 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Constitution made her say it. 595 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, she's like, my boyfriend took me on a 596 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: date to touch the Constitution. 597 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: I love you, and that's where the pin goes miss right. 598 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: So the pin goes missing in that constitution scene, and 599 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: then Melly comes to Olivia and says, oh, I wanted 600 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: to give this back to you, and how told me 601 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: that Fitz didn't bring his wife to see the Constitution. 602 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: He chose to bring you. And it's the first. 603 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: Which because I would have wanted to be there, been there. 604 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: And then she has the most amazing dialogue that's like 605 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: we all did This is all passive aggressive too. She's like, 606 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: we all did what we needed to do to get 607 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: fits in office, and now it is our job to 608 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: keep him there, meaning like I will keep playing wife, 609 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: you keep playing mistress, whatever we have to do to 610 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: keep the president president. And it's like this is all flashback, 611 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: but this is when the whole charade and all the 612 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: cards start to crumble. It's a combination of like Melly 613 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: knowing and Olivia of being like, this is the most 614 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: fucked up shit in the entire world. Hollis gives the 615 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: okay to blow up Cytron and kill seven people just 616 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: so that the election rigging storyline doesn't get out, and Cyrus. 617 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: She goes to Cyrus says, Hollis is a fucking problem. 618 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: He killed seven people, that's on us. And Cyrus has 619 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: this huge monologue where he's like, those people died, they 620 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: are patriots. 621 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: They're patriots, they died for us, for fits to be 622 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: have been in office, die for. 623 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: A greater cause. And Olivia is just looking around like 624 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: all these people are fucking out of their minds. 625 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: And he also Cyrus mentions Lindsay Dwyer, which is Quinn 626 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: Perkins of course, and says she's gonna you know, she 627 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: she's doing her country a service. 628 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: Lindsay Dwyer is doing her country services, doing her patriotic duty, 629 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: all for the greater good of this country. 630 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: But also it all goes back to Olivia again because 631 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: Olivia is the one that gives the Jesse Tyler name 632 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: right to Hollis Doyle, which Huck gives to her because 633 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: she knows that somebody has been sort of meddling and 634 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: asking questions and sort of in there, so she wants 635 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: them out. So it all goes back to Olivia. So 636 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: Olivia is somewhat responsible for this explosion, for Jesse Tyler dying. 637 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: It's why she saves Lindsay Dwyner because she feels so sad. Yes, 638 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: she will not let another person die for this sin 639 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: that she did, this choice she made of bringing the election. 640 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: She will not let anyone else go and that's why 641 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: she sends Huck to get Lindsay. 642 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: Oh man, we'll be right back, guys. 643 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: Okay. In the ending of the episode, Olivia resigns. She 644 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: writes a resignation letter she signs Olivia Pope. She includes 645 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: the Eisenhower pinn that she gave on the inauguration day. 646 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: She leaves it on the fucking desk of the O office. 647 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: She pieces out and she starts Olivia Fucking Pope and associates. 648 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: Yes, uh so good. But do you think that Olivia knew? 649 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Because Lindsay Dwyer slash Quinn Perkins is an exceptional worker 650 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: at OPA, do you know what I mean? She has 651 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: that drive. 652 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 653 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: So do you think she knew or she just took 654 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: a chance. She just wanted to save this girl. 655 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: Because I hope she wanted to save her and felt like, 656 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep her in my keeper round, under 657 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 2: my wing, to keep her around to make sure she's safe. 658 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: And then it sort of like ends it up that 659 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: all right, Like now this is just how it is, 660 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 2: Like I'm watching this girl like she's mine. 661 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: Oor man score for Olivia that Quinn Perkins ends up 662 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: being this freaking you know boss Chiller. 663 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it's so crazy. And the very very end of 664 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: the episode they're swearing in Sally Langston and like the 665 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: BackFlash of his pin that fell off. They have the 666 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: pin and Melly picks it up off the floor in 667 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: the hospital where it fell off where he's like bleeding out, 668 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: and she puts it next to his shot up body. 669 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: And then the very very end, the last two minutes, 670 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: you know how he scanned do those last fucking thirty 671 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: seconds they go but crazy that they dream at it's 672 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: Huck that shot the press? 673 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: Oh man, how did you like Huck's work? 674 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: At the end? 675 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 1: I really liked it. Again, this was one of those 676 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: scenes where I had to learn how to assemble and 677 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: disassemble a motherfucking rifle, which is so not me. I 678 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: can barely send like a video text to someone like I'm. 679 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 2: Just scared for links for Google link because he doesn't 680 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: know how to get it off his phone. He doesn't a. 681 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: Picture of me and I'm the most impatient person. When 682 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: I get frustrated, I'm not good at something and I 683 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: can't learn it. I get frustrated and I get mad, 684 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: and I remember being there and be like, Okay, let's 685 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: do it again. I was just so because I wasn't 686 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: getting it. And God bless Jeff Props, who just was, 687 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, the nicest and the most patient person, and 688 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: just little by little, one piece by one piece, and 689 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: I learned how to. You know, Thank God for our 690 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: wonderful editors too, because they edited the shit out of this. 691 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: Like you had an assemble of an automatic rifle. 692 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I I love it. I love that moment. 693 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: I love the moment where he Huck turns around to 694 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: look for the bullet and you see that it's Huck. Oh. 695 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: I was so excited. Man, this is gonna get good. 696 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: And this is also I think this is where the 697 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: hashtag what the huck started. Oh, this is really one. 698 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: And then the next episode is where it's sort of 699 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, a lot because people were like, oh, what 700 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 1: the heck, oh. 701 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: Oh oh, let's see if there are any fun fucking facts. 702 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 703 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, Mark Harrolic did not reprise his role as Press 704 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: Secretary Marvin Colegate. Did he get fired. 705 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: From the season. I don't know. You know, sometimes people 706 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: get jobs. 707 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that that's what happened because he's so talented. 708 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: I've worked with them before. He's amazing. And he's also 709 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: friends with a casting director and Jeff. I feel like 710 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 2: they've worked together a million times. 711 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: And listen, when you get it, when you get a 712 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: curring role or a you know, a featured role or 713 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: a guest starring role, there's no guarantee of continued work. 714 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 1: So as an actor, you have to continue searching for work. 715 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: And he probably booked a show or a movie where 716 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: he couldn't get off and he was working, so they 717 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: have to recast it. 718 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: And that's when they replaced him with Keko a Gina, 719 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 2: who replaced him as press secretary Britta Kagan, who tragically 720 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 2: in this episode her character was killed as a result 721 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: of your fucking girlfriend, Becky. 722 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: What a bit bitch. But also, can I just take 723 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: a moment and speak about Kaiko I hope I'm saying 724 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: her name right. Kaiko A Jenna, who is another regular 725 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: on a beloved show of mine, Gilmore Girls. She's one 726 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: of the leads in gilmart Girls. Yeah, play your name 727 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: is Keiko Keiko. She plays Rory's best friend Lane on 728 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. 729 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: For she did one hundred and kidding me, one hundred and. 730 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: Fifty four episodes on Gilmore Girls. And that girl can 731 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: talk faster than any of us. 732 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I remember auditioning for Gilmore Girls and they 733 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: would tell me to talk faster, and then the casting 734 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: director gave me the note, you talk out of the 735 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: side of your mouth. 736 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: Two. So does Milo into Meglia, what is she talking about? 737 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: He's the biggest side mouth talker in the world and 738 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: it's the sexiest thing ever. 739 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: I remember auditioning for Gilmore Girls and they were like, 740 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: you need to talk faster, and I was like, oh honey, 741 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: I got this and I'm talking so fast. She was like, also, 742 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: you only talking to the side of your mouth? Can 743 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: you not do that? 744 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: Are you cute? I'm so confused right now because again, Miglia, 745 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: who is a regular on Gilmore Girls. Who's hot Rory's 746 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, boyfriend? For is any Yes, he's on this 747 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: is us and he's on a name Vinimiglia. I could 748 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: be KAMLEI. 749 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think that's it. 750 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: I could be completely wrong, Lea, but I think it's 751 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: Vini Meglia. But homeboy has the cutest lisp and he 752 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: just talks out of the side of his mouth. Is 753 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: always funny that you know they were telling you, producers 754 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: was telling you not to do that. 755 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: Okay, Keo is killed and I'm so bummed. She should 756 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: have had like a much bigger party. And then I 757 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: have continuity error. Referenced in Dirty Little Secrets, we learned 758 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: that as a part of the Defiance Conspiracy Lia deal, 759 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: Verna Thornton was to receive a seat on the Supreme Court, 760 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: the first Supreme Court justice to be nominated by the 761 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: Grand Administration. But in season one, episode two, a news 762 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 2: anchor reports that Patrick Keating is to be the president's 763 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 2: first Supreme Court nominee during his term. That's a continuity. 764 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: That's a continuity error, people, That's what that is. 765 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: So how do we expect these writers to keep all 766 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: these facts together? Like that's a teeny tiny continuity or 767 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: that I would never catch unless our producers for this 768 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: podcast told us, you know what you read. 769 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: And also we're not even in season five six yet. 770 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: I bet these continuity errors are going to get imagine 771 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 2: if you were on Gray's Anatomy like season twenty. 772 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? 773 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: No, I can't. I cannot imagine. Guess what time it 774 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: is now? Scandal Scandal, Scandal Scannel tweets of the talent. 775 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I get very gassy when we do our tweets 776 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: at the time portion of this podcast. 777 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: Katie, me too, Germo and hungry. Okay, Yes, the Scandal writers. 778 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot that the Scandal writers had 779 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: their own handle. 780 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were. 781 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: Yet god, everybody was so everybody was on Twitter. It 782 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 2: was the costume department, the wardrobe, the hair, the makeup, 783 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 2: the writers, everybody, Scandal writers wrote, The Scandal writers just 784 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: watched tonight's episode together on a big screen and it 785 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 2: is amazing. Ten nine Central people, big screen not required. 786 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: That is such a writery writ tweet. I've upseid. 787 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: Really, it's so well written. Yes, okay, and then we 788 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: have Chan at my friend Chan tweets one thing you 789 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: won't do is text slash call me while Olivia Pope 790 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: is on I need to find out who shot her 791 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: boo hashtag scandal agreed, Chan agree. 792 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: Reed at Dresshon on December sixth, tweeted first lady set 793 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 2: him up at jerm meets World. Fits done, been shot, 794 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: dead to the earth. Who y'all think did it? Hashtag 795 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 2: scandal I love and this person thinks the first lady 796 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: set him up, which, by the way, we haven't really 797 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: talked about that. 798 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: That's right. 799 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they really did make it seem like she did it. 800 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: You think, how well, what before he gets out of 801 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: the car, she says, yes, yes, we shouldn't go. We 802 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: shouldn't go. I have a weird feeling, let's not go. 803 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: And then when he gets shot. They did a shot 804 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: in this episode where she lifts up her head and 805 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 2: she's like looking around kind of weirdly. I don't know. 806 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: I think they kind of framed her a little bit. 807 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: I never thought that when she's in the limo in 808 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: the previous episode saying let's not go. I don't want 809 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: to go. I just chalked that up to woman's intuition, 810 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: Like I thought, she feels something, she feels something's off, 811 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel right. I almost respected her and loved 812 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: her even more because of because of that little piece 813 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: and that in the limo where she didn't want him 814 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: to go. I never equated that with her possibly setting 815 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: him up. Interesting, but well that that also speaks to 816 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: this next tweet by Focus at Shabina three, she says 817 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: that's why she didn't want to go to the dinner. 818 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: She knew he was getting shot. Hashtag scandal, which she's 819 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: speaking about Melly of course, which, well, there you go, 820 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: there you having another person thinks that she was possibly involved. 821 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 2: People thought that Mellie was possibly doing it. At Marvine 822 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 2: XO tweeted with hashtag scandal, Milly I love when people 823 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 2: call her Milly. Milly knew some shit was gonna go down. 824 00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care. 825 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't care, I don't care. He just tweeted IDC period, 826 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: IDC period, which is I don't care, and I never 827 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: knew that till today period. Yes. 828 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also you'll check it out. It's funny how 829 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: it's all women that are saying this about another woman. 830 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: I wonder as a guy, I thought, oh no, she 831 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: just she feels something's off, so she doesn't want to go. 832 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: I never But of course the women are like, mmm, 833 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: she knew something was up. 834 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 2: She's yeah, right, that's right, Oh yeah, I mean yeah. 835 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 2: At Samantha D. Godwin tweets, haha, you know it's a 836 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 2: spicy episode. When at Scandal four, when one informs everyone 837 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 2: to not tweet at Tony Goldwyn tonight, well done, sir, 838 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 2: well done. Hashtag scandal. 839 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: And then we got that about I don't know not 840 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: to tweet Tony tonight. I don't know what that. I 841 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: don't know what that. 842 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 2: Oh, because it's so sexual. This episode was so sexual. 843 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: Oh, perhaps well. And then we have Golden Girls six 844 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: seventeen and she says, everyone at work is trying to 845 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: figure out who shot the president hashtag scan So it 846 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: was me, everybody, it was a Huck. 847 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 2: You guys all remember, like we're about to go down 848 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: a really dark journey with Huck. We're talking warderboarding. We're 849 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 2: talking dark and dark darkness underneath the Pentagon and what's 850 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 2: really going underneath the streets of DC. The next episode 851 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: we have up is called blown Away. 852 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: Little did I know that I was gonna venture out 853 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: into the world of nudity on prime time television. 854 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: You guys just weren't lucky enough to see it. But 855 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 2: everybody who was in the room who shot with Huck 856 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 2: that day when he was getting tortured Sawyrbo's dick and balls. 857 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: My country breakfast, two eggs and a Dolson. 858 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 2: You've never heard that. 859 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 1: You're welcome, Katie qlows, You're. 860 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 2: Welcome a country breakfast, country breakfast. Look out. I'm teaching 861 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 2: that to my son right away because I think it's 862 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: fucking hilarious. He's not gonna get it. 863 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: Folks, this has been a pleasure and a dream. 864 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: We can't wait to be back again for Blown Away. 865 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 2: We may or may not have a guest. You may 866 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: or may not hear about the country breakfast that Hucks 867 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: serves up while he's getting tortured in the Pentagon. What 868 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: a dream? 869 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: What is awesome? Thank you, Thank you guys, Thank you 870 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: gladiators for listening and going on this journey with us. 871 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: This is like creating Hello. 872 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 2: Should we say, oh, Fiva la vida, everybody, Viva la vida. 873 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: And thank you Shonda Rhymes for writing this episode or 874 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 2: this episode was five years This is. 875 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: A good one. Go watch this. If you guys haven't 876 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: watched it and you heard the podcast episode, go to 877 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: the episode on Hulu. 878 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: Happy birthday, mister President. Could you imagine doing that? Mister President? 879 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: Say it again? And then he says, wait, no, what 880 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 2: did you say say? 881 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: I like it? 882 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,919 Speaker 2: What you say say it again. Oh good. So you'll 883 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: play Olivia and I'll play fits. 884 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: We gotta put we gotta do that, We gotta pitch that. 885 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 1: If we could like read. 886 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: That scene me, I belong to you. 887 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: That was so good, That was so good. I got 888 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: cho Bye, y'all, bye everybody. Thank you guys for joining 889 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: us on Unpacking the Toolbox. 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