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Speaker 2: Paul Yours truly in the back room, guys. Michael Strahan,

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Speaker 2: us in about twenty minutes from now. And one of

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Speaker 2: the topics. You know, we're looking at Aaron Donald maybe

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Speaker 2: coming out of retirement, and I don't know if Michael

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Speaker 2: Strahan ever had that urge. He played fifteen years with

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Speaker 2: the Giants. You got Aaron Donald who's played a decade,

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Speaker 2: and I think getting him to come back. You're going

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Speaker 2: to host the super Bowl in Los Angeles, even if

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Speaker 2: he only wanted to play home games, I'd be fine

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Speaker 2: with that as well. I want him ready to go

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Speaker 2: come postseason time, and you know, you're not going to

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Speaker 2: have the same number of snaps that he would normally have. Now,

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Speaker 2: the competitor in him is going to want to be

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Speaker 2: But I'm curious about getting in football shape because I

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Speaker 2: think Aaron Donald has been out for two years, two

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Speaker 2: seasons trying to get back into football shape. So Michael

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Speaker 2: Strahan will join us. Coming up. Also, Tisha Thompson, ESPN

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Speaker 2: camps open today, but the Buccaneers Pro Bowl nose tackle

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Speaker 2: via Vea Vita Vea once a new deal, a long

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Speaker 2: term deal, and apparently once out of Tampa Bay. I

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Speaker 2: love me some vita Vea. He's that guy. Those guys

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Speaker 2: they get the double team. Leonard Williams double teamed two

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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety five times last season, Videvea to eighty two,

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Speaker 2: in the middle nose tackles. If you said I can

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Speaker 2: not everybody is Aaron Donald. Vitavea is pretty good.

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Speaker 2: There's reports that he probably wants to go to the

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Speaker 2: West Coast. And then you start to go Okay. Where

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Speaker 2: But Raiders Giants moved on from Dexter Lawrence. That's not

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Speaker 5: Pauli sent this one over off of our Strahan Aaron

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Speaker 2: But he played fifteen years, because if Michael played ten years,

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Speaker 2: minutes from now. What other poll questions do you have, Dylan.

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Speaker 5: Sort of in the same vein, But whose career would

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Speaker 5: you rather have? Michael Strahan or Aaron Donald? If you

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Speaker 5: you could even lump in post career as well, because

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Speaker 5: I don't think Aaron Donald has any plans to do

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Speaker 3: Well, it's Straighthan's the obvious answer.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Aaron Donald is considered probably the best at

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Speaker 2: Stray Han is a Hall of Famer. Yeah, they're still

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Speaker 2: Donald's on the short list of greatest defensive players of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now what I want Aaron Donald's career probably, you know,

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Speaker 2: a wonderful job, all right. Eight seven to seven three

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Speaker 2: A head coach prior to training camp and he has injuries,

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Speaker 2: what does that mean? An NFL head coach was hurt

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Speaker 2: right now camps are open, he's not. There is there

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any sensitivity to reporting this.

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Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. So was it fair to

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Speaker 2: wasn't brought up, and I don't know why, and I

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Speaker 2: brought it up that it should have been brought up.

436
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Speaker 2: The connection between CTE and football I don't know in retrospect,

437
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Speaker 2: should that have been a question a topic for Chris

438
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Speaker 2: Johnson when you interviewed it?

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Speaker 4: Well, I had that.

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Speaker 9: I actually thought about that because I saw what everybody

441
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Speaker 9: should have asked this. You should have asked that, Well,

442
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Speaker 9: you should have got the interview. How about that? That's

443
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Speaker 9: one thing too.

444
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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 9: That was Chris's moment for Chris. This shared a story

446
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Speaker 9: which Chris wanted to share. And when I got the

447
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Speaker 9: call that Chris wanted to share that, he had, you know,

448
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Speaker 9: als that was the story. It wasn't for me to

449
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Speaker 9: try to grand stand, which I hate when people do this.

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Speaker 4: Dad.

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Speaker 9: As an interviewer, our job is delivered information. I'm not

452
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Speaker 9: trying to get a bigger name for myself by putting

453
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Speaker 9: somebody else in an uncomfortable position. I was there at

454
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Speaker 9: the service to Chris for what Chris wanted people to

455
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Speaker 9: understand and know about his life and work was now.

456
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Speaker 9: I was not there to make a story about myself

457
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Speaker 9: or to get a big headline. That's what it wasn't about.

458
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Speaker 9: The headlines were about Chris is where they needed to be.

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Speaker 9: I did ask Chris about football, how the NFL has

460
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Speaker 9: been supportive and all those things. He has twin boys

461
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Speaker 9: who play football right now. So there are so many

462
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Speaker 9: things that people don't know. But a few were critical of,

463
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Speaker 9: But overall, I'm very proud of what we did there

464
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Speaker 9: at ABC and bringing that story, and I'm very proud

465
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Speaker 9: and very happy that Chris trusted us to tell it,

466
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Speaker 9: because that was Chris's story to tell. They had lots

467
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Speaker 9: about Chris Johnson, not about Michael Strahan. I don't make

468
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Speaker 9: any of the things about myself, and that was the

469
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Speaker 9: disappointing thing for a few people who are critical of that.

470
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Speaker 9: But if you don't have critics, that mean you're not

471
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Speaker 9: doing a good job too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I appreciate you putting in context there. And look,

473
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Speaker 2: when I do interviews, somebody will always say, well, why

474
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Speaker 2: didn't you ask? You know, and you're in the moment

475
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Speaker 2: and there are times when you go, yep, I could

476
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Speaker 2: have or I could have pressed somebody a little bit harder.

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Speaker 2: With that, it goes along with the territory there. But

478
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Speaker 2: you brought up something really really important that I try

479
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Speaker 2: to tell people in this business. Don't make the interview

480
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Speaker 2: about you. Make it about the person you're interviewing. And

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Speaker 2: that is the correct approach.

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Speaker 9: But that's very but it's very very hard to do.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we're I don't know if it's maybe it's

484
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Speaker 9: just the way things are with social media and everything

485
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 9: is if every story everybody needs to be out there,

486
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Speaker 9: they need this show. Oh I'm doing this and I'm

487
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Speaker 9: doing that, and I'm smarter than the next guy. I'm

488
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Speaker 9: no smarter than anybody else out there. I'm a normal

489
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Speaker 9: guy who has an extraordinary job. Or I get to

490
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Speaker 9: have incredible conversations with people like yourself, and when I'm

491
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Speaker 9: asking questions, I'm asking as somebody who is really as

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Speaker 9: someone who really cares. I never do an interview or

493
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Speaker 9: do anything and think, what am I going to get

494
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Speaker 9: out of this? How are they going to make me?

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Speaker 4: Look?

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Speaker 9: I do it because I wanted to give Chris that respect.

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Speaker 4: And here the guy is very tough.

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Speaker 9: I'm looking at him Dan and I remember him as

499
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Speaker 9: the credible football player that we all walked on the field.

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Speaker 9: He's sitting next to his wife, who's very emotional and

501
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Speaker 9: then put a left out of my out of my

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Speaker 9: to the left.

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Speaker 4: Of my left.

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Speaker 9: His four kids are sitting there not a you couldn't

505
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Speaker 9: see him a camera, but they're sitting there and I'm

506
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Speaker 9: watching their reaction when I care slightly and I can

507
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Speaker 9: glance over at what their dad going through. And we

508
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Speaker 9: walk away from that interview and we go home and

509
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Speaker 9: we talk about and people have the you know, they're

510
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Speaker 9: they're for Chris, but they got to live with that

511
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Speaker 9: every day. That's the reality of their life, man. And

512
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Speaker 9: it was the very one of the toughest interviews that

513
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Speaker 9: I've ever done, if not the toughest. But I'm glad

514
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Speaker 9: that Chris trusted me to share his story. And I

515
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Speaker 9: hope that people go out and contribute and donate to

516
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Speaker 9: help als, and hopefully they can find something that can

517
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Speaker 9: help Chris and all the others who are going through it.

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Speaker 2: I just mentioned to the audience that a lot of

519
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Speaker 2: times we see somebody play, we love watching them play,

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Speaker 2: and then we move on once they retire, because there's

521
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Speaker 2: somebody who takes their place.

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Speaker 3: And I said, if you go to a Hall of.

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Speaker 2: Fame weekend, like next weekend, we're gonna see players in

524
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Speaker 2: a condition that you never thought. You know, when I

525
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Speaker 2: see Steve McMichael, you know, Earl Campbell, like it breaks

526
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Speaker 2: your heart because we moved on from you. They live

527
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Speaker 2: with and granted they chose to play football, but the

528
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Speaker 2: the after shocks of your body and what it does

529
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Speaker 2: to them the rest of their lives. And you're gonna,

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Speaker 2: you know, witness this in Canton coming up next weekend

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Speaker 2: where you're you know, you're gonna see people. Great to

532
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Speaker 2: see them, but they're in bad shape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And now, Earl Campbell was my childhood favorite. And to

535
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Speaker 9: go to the Hall of Fame with thee Earl Campbell,

536
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Speaker 9: it really shocked me. And to see Jim Brown when

537
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Speaker 9: when Jim Brown was still living, that shocked me because

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Speaker 9: you see these guys whore kind of like looking at

539
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Speaker 9: your dad, right, My dad, the military man, always strong,

540
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Speaker 9: always powerful, you know, my hero, this longest man in

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Speaker 9: the room. And then you eventually see that that father

542
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 9: time catches up. And that's a tough thing when you

543
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 9: go to the Hall of Fame and you see those things,

544
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Speaker 9: because you realize at the same time, I'm getting older too,

545
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Speaker 9: We're all getting older.

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Speaker 4: So I'll be out there next.

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Speaker 9: I'll be out there to support of course, everybody who's

548
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Speaker 9: going into that class, especially my brother Larry FitzGeralds. I'm

549
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 9: so proud of him and happy for him and everyone else.

550
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Speaker 9: And you know, as we forget, we move on. And

551
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Speaker 9: but one thing you don't forget. Don't forget the military

552
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Speaker 9: service members, all arms of the military, who have supported us,

553
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Speaker 9: who still support us, who get away from to have

554
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Speaker 9: to move away from their families and dedicate their lives

555
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Speaker 9: to something that's bigger than just them and come to

556
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Speaker 9: DC check it out. Or like I said, USAA dot

557
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Speaker 9: com slash Monument two fifty pay honor to those who've

558
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Speaker 9: honored us by giving their lives and giving their service

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Speaker 9: to the country.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, but yeah, don't.

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Speaker 9: Forget, don't forget football, don't forget the military service, especially.

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Speaker 2: Forty one million Americans who have answered the call to

563
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Speaker 2: serve since the Revolutionary War. Always great to catch up

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Speaker 2: with you, Michael, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you got to have me more often.

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Speaker 9: Man, Good to see you and maybe do a little

567
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 9: pickup football in the artist something.

568
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Speaker 2: I retired well before you retired, Mike. I retired after

569
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Speaker 2: my freshman year in high school. Just letting you know,

570
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Speaker 2: smart man, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Smart man, I appreciate you Dad as always.

572
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Speaker 2: Manet All right, that's Michael Strahan, Hall of Famer joining

573
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Speaker 2: us on behalf of us A A and the National

574
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Speaker 2: Military Monument opening up in.

575
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Speaker 3: DC this weekend. That would be great.

576
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Speaker 2: You know, I got family members who served World War Two,

577
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Speaker 2: Korean War, Vietnam, so to be able to see their names,

578
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Speaker 2: that's awesome. Let's get a couple of phone calls in

579
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Speaker 2: here eight seven to seven three DP show Chris and

580
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Speaker 2: Syracuse leads us off. I'm glad that Michael Strahan gave

581
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Speaker 2: me the context of Chris Johnson and with his wife

582
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Speaker 2: there and his four kids off to the side. But look,

583
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Speaker 2: my job is to ask questions as well, and I

584
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Speaker 2: appreciate him giving me that context.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Chris, Hey, thank you, Dan.

586
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Speaker 10: He got a few things to throw at you in

587
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Speaker 10: a possible poll question for Dylan for the next hour.

588
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Speaker 10: And Dan, yesterday you were talking about your golfing incident

589
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 10: over the weekend, and like you were, the first thing

590
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Speaker 10: that popped into my head was Jeff Spacoli's encounter with

591
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Speaker 10: mister hann and fast times at Richmond High. You're ripping

592
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 10: up my card, hey, Bud, which your problem? And only

593
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 10: three times in NBA history sixty eight to seventy eight

594
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Speaker 10: and this year's Nicks did a team capture a title

595
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Speaker 10: and not have a player on their team that did

596
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Speaker 10: not receive at least one MVP vote, and this year

597
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 10: Sixers had multiple players they could receive MVP votes and

598
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Speaker 10: the guys who are willing to play their roles like

599
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Speaker 10: the next did last year. Lebron definitely has a shot

600
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Speaker 10: at a fifth ring on an unprecedented for and off

601
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Speaker 10: the schedule release. I wonder what kind of reception Lebron

602
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Speaker 10: and Bam we'll get from LA fans. I think both

603
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 10: may get booed by the Laker fans, banned because of

604
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 10: his so called manufactured eighty three point game last March

605
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 10: to eclipse Kobe's eighty one and Lebron for fans seeing

606
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 10: he's now getting paid only four million this year by

607
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Speaker 10: the Sixers and his last year in LA he was

608
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Speaker 10: paid fifty two million. I mean, the Lakers could have

609
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 10: used that forty eight million off their cap hit to

610
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 10: be a little more competitive, But Laker fans should remember

611
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 10: how awful the Lakers were right before Lebron got there

612
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Speaker 10: and led them to a title. And the whole question

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Speaker 10: possibly for Dylan. All three brought their previous franchise as

614
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Speaker 10: a title, but this year, when they play on the

615
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Speaker 10: road for the first time, who gets the warmest or

616
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 10: coldest reception from fans? Giannison, Milwaukee, Jalen and Boston. Where

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Speaker 10: Lebron in LA.

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Speaker 2: I would say, Lebron in LA fields like it might

619
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Speaker 2: be a little frosty. But you know, I disagree with

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Speaker 2: Barkley and thank you.

621
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Speaker 4: Chris.

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Speaker 2: Barkley said that Lebron's always stacking a team. He didn't

623
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Speaker 2: go to a stacked team in LA. He had to

624
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: help build that team. Now, did he bring in Anthony Davis? Yes,

625
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: that was smart. That was a great business decision. I'm

626
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: in this to win this, and I have no problem

627
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: if he's chasing a ring. We've made him chase a ring.

628
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Speaker 2: He left Cleveland because we kept saying, you can't be

629
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: the chosen one, the goat if you don't win. Michael

630
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: won six go Win championships. He couldn't get anybody to

631
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Speaker 2: go to Cleveland, and by the time he came back,

632
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: they were bad. They had Kyrie. He didn't stack that team.

633
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Speaker 2: He brought in Kevin Love. I don't know if anybody went, oh, man,

634
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Speaker 2: he got Kevin Love, They're going to win the title.

635
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if anybody thought, oh, they

636
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: got a super team there Miami, they had a super team,

637
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Speaker 2: but going to the Lakers, he didn't have a super team.

638
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: I feel I still don't understand why Lebron is so

639
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: polarizing to people there. There's very little appreciation for him,

640
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: Like people be grudgingly go, oh, you know, yeah, it's

641
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: pretty good career. Yeah, you know, longevity, you know all

642
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: those numbers, you know. But it always comes back to

643
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. Tony Allen, former NBA guard. He had this

644
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: to say on the Chris Vernon Show about Lebron complaining

645
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: years ago of not winning a Defensive Player of the Year.

646
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Speaker 11: Man, I didn't think now one time Lebron deserved it.

647
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Speaker 4: If margn get, I should have got it.

648
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Speaker 11: And to see that he's saying for his legacy, he

649
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 11: should have got that award. I'm saying to myself, Bro,

650
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 11: every game you came in, you was the hunted, You

651
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 11: was the guy.

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Speaker 4: You was a traffick.

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Speaker 11: All you did was a couple of chased down blocks

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Speaker 11: the game.

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Speaker 3: Name somebody that he had to lock up.

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Speaker 4: And get the win.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how many guys lock up guys?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: Tony Allen wasn't a good offensive player. He was a

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Speaker 2: great defensive player. Lebron was a He was an opportunistic

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Speaker 2: defensive player. And look, Alan Iverson wasn't a great defender,

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Speaker 2: but got a lot of steels. Guys who play the

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Speaker 2: passing lanes. I didn't think Lebron would be a defensive

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Speaker 2: Player of the Year, But okay, Ben Wallace won what

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Speaker 2: three or four of these? He was just a help defender, okay,

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Speaker 2: great help defender. Was he locking up guys? Was he

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Speaker 2: locking up Shock and the big you know, other big men?

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Speaker 2: Not that I remember Rudy Gobert winning Defensive Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year what four times?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Was Lebron more involved in defense than those guys?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was.

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Speaker 2: They were a rim protector back when we really valued

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Speaker 2: a rim protector. Lebron's most famous play is a block

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Speaker 2: shot and Andrea Gudala.

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Speaker 3: Should he have been the defensive player of the year.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: But even being on a defensive team first, second, or third,

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Speaker 2: that would have been an accomplishment. But was he like

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Speaker 2: Michael No, he wasn't. Did anybody say Kobe didn't lock

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Speaker 2: people down? I don't remember people saying, you know, but

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Speaker 2: can Kobe lock guys down? I guess when he wanted to.

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Speaker 2: These guys are so talented when they want to, but

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Speaker 2: to sit here and go you know, Lebron was the

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Speaker 2: guy you were going after. Now you would go after

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Speaker 2: Lebron man. Everybody talks, you know, they're rewriting history here.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Chris Vernon, a good host. Yeah, Paulie,

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Speaker 2: I went.

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Speaker 6: Back looked and Lebron's prime if you said, it's like

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Speaker 6: twenty four to thirty two, even though he probably had

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Speaker 6: two primes. You know, Cleveland, Miami, Cleveland. He was top

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Speaker 6: ten for defensive Player of the Year eight different times

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Speaker 6: in a ten year span, top five five times. And

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Speaker 6: I saw a couple articles about it back then. This

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Speaker 6: is like twenty thirteen. He could guard every position, is

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Speaker 6: what they said. The versatility of his defense, not necessarily

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Speaker 6: the lock down where he could guard your center or

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Speaker 6: your point guard, depending on the matchup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people rewrite in history here. Let's be fair. Let's

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Speaker 2: be fair, Yeah, Pauling, you.

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Speaker 6: Know Tiger Woods was not that great out of the

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Speaker 6: sandtrap Dan in this prime. He was just a little

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Speaker 6: easy to pick up.

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Speaker 2: You know, Michael Jordan didn't hit every game winning shot.

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Speaker 2: Just want to let people know. You might think that

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Speaker 2: that's not the case. Y has smartman asked Derrick Rose

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Speaker 2: about the Conference Finals. Every single fourth quarter, Lebron James

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Speaker 2: was on Derek Rose and stopped him completely. That's the lockdown.

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Speaker 3: Give you a bloop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were targeting Lebron Lebron Now maybe yes, I

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Speaker 2: would target Lebron. I'd be like, I hope Lebron guards me. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Back to Tony Allen, and Tony Allen was a really

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Speaker 3: I think he was. What was he Texas A and

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Speaker 4: Marvin think Oklahoma State? Oh?

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Speaker 2: So Tony Allen, former NBA guard, and we played the

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Speaker 2: interview portion of the interview where he was reacting to

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Speaker 2: Lebron saying he should have been a defensive Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year the year that Marcus Sahl, Tony Allen's teammate won.

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Speaker 2: Now here's something you may not realize. Lebron was first

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Speaker 2: Team All NBA Defense that year. Marcus Saul was the

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Speaker 2: let that settle in. Marcus saw one defensive player of

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Speaker 2: the year. He was second Team All Defense NBA. Just

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Speaker 2: got where Charles Barkley will join us at the top

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Speaker 2: of the eleven o'clock Eastern hour. Tony Allen also had

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Speaker 2: this to say on The Chris Vernon Show about Lebron

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Speaker 2: James leaving Cleveland to go to Miami.

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Speaker 9: He locked up the streets are saying he locked up

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Speaker 9: Paul Piers at one time in the playoffs.

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Speaker 11: About we made I'm just made that go to go

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Speaker 11: to Miami to season started. He ain't take our hand

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Speaker 11: that game.

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Speaker 4: Look it up. He ain't said.

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Speaker 11: Nobody say nobody doing hep He did. He did, he did,

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Speaker 11: And that showed me that what he's really emotional about

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Speaker 11: this game. He cared a lot about these stats, a

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Speaker 11: lot about all this stuff because you know, damn where

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Speaker 11: you weren't trying to lock nobody else.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this revision is history. Tony Allen sounding like he's

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Speaker 2: Alan Iverson here.

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Speaker 9: I mean yes, But the thing is the Big Three

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Speaker 9: Celtics don't get enough credit for really starting this super

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Speaker 9: team in this era.

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Speaker 4: I don't care how it was put together. It was

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Speaker 4: put together.

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Speaker 9: They put a Big three together to win championship, and

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Speaker 9: Lebron just did what the Celtics did.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just not sure, like.

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Speaker 2: He yeah, but it was Lebron who did it. You

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Speaker 2: know that's the problem. People have a problem that Lebron

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Speaker 2: did it and Mike didn't do it. Nobody was comparing

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Speaker 2: Paul Pierce or KG or Ray Ray to Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: You know, Lebron was going to get compared to Mike,

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Speaker 2: and Mike never stacked his team. They got good players.

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Speaker 2: Mike took less money, they had good draft picks. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Not enough credit is given to Jerry Krause, the general manager,

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Speaker 2: and Mike didn't like him, called him crumbs because he

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Speaker 2: always had crumbs from lunch.

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Speaker 4: He was so mean to him. Oh he was.

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Speaker 3: He needed.

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Speaker 2: Mike wanted Walter Davis on the team, and Walter Davis

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Speaker 2: was once a great player, not when Mike wanted him.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Crowns made good decisions. He deserves a lot more

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Speaker 2: credit than he gets. Yeah, Paul, Mike was first team

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Speaker 2: All meanness. Oh yeah, like Barkley said, best player of

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Speaker 2: all time. No one has said that's a great guy. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I know, but everybody's okay with that. Mike wasn't a

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Speaker 2: nice guy to do his teammates, yes, Martin.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Chuck says that about Mike and Kobe, and he's like,

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Speaker 9: see the issue with Lebron is Lebron's a nice guy.

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Speaker 9: I'm currently reading Three Ring Circus about the Shaq and

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Speaker 9: Kobe Lakers by Jeff Perlman, and whoa this whole mama

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Speaker 9: mentality thing. It only worked because Kobe ended up winning.

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Speaker 9: He still had the same mentality, but people were like,

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Speaker 9: what have you done in this league? Shack was ready

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Speaker 9: to punch him in the face about eighteen different times

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Speaker 9: when he first got to the Lakers. Uh.

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