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Speaker 1: So tonight's actually a rare show for a bunch of
Speaker 1: different reasons. First and foremost, I am flying solo, which
Speaker 1: is something I hardly ever do. Most importantly, though, we
Speaker 1: get to discuss some real, actual breaking news. That's sorry
Speaker 1: breaking news on June the seventh, deep in the heart
Speaker 1: of college football off season, and on top of that,
Speaker 1: the stars weirdly aligned in a way that gives us
Speaker 1: both Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports and Andy Staples from
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated on the same episode to discuss news of
Speaker 1: the day and much much more. And there is some
Speaker 1: rather significant news in the college football world effective immediately.
Speaker 1: Bob Stoops is stepping down from his post at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Seems to have come a little bit out of left field.
Speaker 1: He's been there since nineteen ninety none. Obviously, you know
Speaker 1: his resume, one of the more elite, most accomplished coaches
Speaker 1: in the game. Certainly there have been rumors for a
Speaker 1: long time about him going elsewhere. Lord knows those aren't
Speaker 1: gonna let up anytime soon now that he is effectively
Speaker 1: a free agent. Suffice to say, there are a ton
Speaker 1: of questions about the timing, the motives, the replacement, etc. Etc.
Speaker 1: Let's jump in. Let's start dissecting this with our friend
Speaker 1: Bruce Felman from Fox Sports joining me to discuss the
Speaker 1: news of the day. Very pleased to welcome back to
Speaker 1: the show longtime friend of the podcast, mister Bruce Feldman
Speaker 1: from Fox Sports, sir, how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. It's good to be out with my favorite.
Speaker 1: Half of thank you, Thank You on your anniversary. No less,
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 3: I know that's probably not going well, but it's been
Speaker 3: that kind of day around my head.
Speaker 1: So I guess the question is, did you see this
Speaker 1: news about Bob Stoop's coming at all? Were you tipped
Speaker 1: off to this that this might occur, because for the
Speaker 1: rest of us it seems like it came out of
Speaker 1: left field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was been some rumblings. I mean last week
Speaker 3: that I started hearing about whether he was going to
Speaker 3: step down or would it be a case where maybe
Speaker 3: he coached for two thousand and seventeen, and then you know,
Speaker 3: like they had announced they had decided it and stayed on.
Speaker 3: And then earlier this week, you know, started hearing more
Speaker 3: about that this could be a you know, an immediate effective,
Speaker 3: immediate situation, and I was trying to you know, hammer home,
Speaker 3: hammer out the Lincoln Riley details, whether he was going
Speaker 3: to be was he in fact going to take over
Speaker 3: or was he just going to be kind of an
Speaker 3: interim on an audition basis, So you know, it was
Speaker 3: a it was a hot story that that blew up,
Speaker 3: and I guess around early after Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Lincoln Riley is a guy that that people are
Speaker 1: pretty high on. But still was this something that when
Speaker 1: you heard it, it caught you by surprise, just the
Speaker 1: immediate nature of it.
Speaker 3: You know, the part about this part, I knew this
Speaker 3: two big things. So Bob stoops and jokes Toally on
Speaker 3: the idea of that groom in Lincoln Riley for this
Speaker 3: really for over a year and even going back to
Speaker 3: the sprint the fall, Oklahoma started working on a contract
Speaker 3: that was basically unprecedented for an assistant where they were
Speaker 3: going to give him a three year deal because they
Speaker 3: knew he had passed up opportunities at Houston and Cincinnati
Speaker 3: USF and produced. So I think towards that end, you know,
Speaker 3: that part made sense. It was just ultimately came down
Speaker 3: to Bob steps being one hundred percent sure, Yeah, he
Speaker 3: feels like the timing is right to step down, But
Speaker 3: you know, is he really one hundred percent on it?
Speaker 2: Not edgely?
Speaker 3: You know, he felt like he is, And that's where
Speaker 3: we are now.
Speaker 1: The official word that you posted was that quote he's
Speaker 1: ready and wants to go live life. That's according to
Speaker 1: one of your sources, I would say, just as a
Speaker 1: college football fan, you don't typically hear that on June's
Speaker 1: seventh of the off season. I don't question his motives,
Speaker 1: but the timing, the timing just seems so odd to
Speaker 1: be in the throes of the off season. Why now,
Speaker 1: Why did he feel the need to do this now?
Speaker 3: You know, I think that specific part of it, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure there's you know, as opposed to a month
Speaker 3: ago or not. I don't know that that part of
Speaker 3: it what sold him, you know, whether it was because
Speaker 3: I saw him in Baby in early May. Guys who
Speaker 3: have worked with him were around him, and they were
Speaker 3: kind of caught off guard that he decided to do
Speaker 3: it at this time of year. But you know, keep
Speaker 3: in mind, his dad was fifty four when he died,
Speaker 3: literally had a heart attack in a game he was
Speaker 3: coaching in high school and died on the way to
Speaker 3: on the way to the hospital. Somebody really close to
Speaker 3: the students, really, because the guy who probably knows him best,
Speaker 3: when I talked to him earlier today said he's always
Speaker 3: told me he was fifty five. That's what he thought.
Speaker 3: He would wanted to step down at it and he goes.
Speaker 3: I don't think he is. I don't think he's changing
Speaker 3: his mind. I think he's done.
Speaker 1: That's pretty incredible. And I think back a little bit
Speaker 1: to when urban Meyer announced that he was stepping aside
Speaker 1: at Florida. The immediate focus among a lot of college
Speaker 1: football fans was does he have his eye on something else?
Speaker 1: Is he going to take an Ohio State job? Obviously
Speaker 1: ended up taking that. Do you think that there is
Speaker 1: any possibility there's another job out there that could lure
Speaker 1: him back? Or is this for good?
Speaker 3: I don't think there is. I really don't know. I
Speaker 3: think you know what's different in terms of urban Meyer
Speaker 3: situation where Bob Stoops they're kind of wired differently. I mean,
Speaker 3: urban Meyer is one of these guys who was grinding
Speaker 3: football all the time, and you know the metric of
Speaker 3: a hused to kind of base that on is when
Speaker 3: you talk to guys who worked for urban Meyer, they
Speaker 3: are grinding. When you talk to people who coach for
Speaker 3: Bob Stoops, they say he's probably about as easy a
Speaker 3: guy to work for and as good on families as
Speaker 3: there is. He also golf a lot more than than
Speaker 3: urban Meyers, So we'll see. I mean you know, his
Speaker 3: kids are a little younger than Urbans, you know, twin
Speaker 3: boys that are the seniors in high school. But you know,
Speaker 3: you never say never with these coaches.
Speaker 1: So now it's turned over to Lincoln Riley, a younger guy,
Speaker 1: only thirty three. You said, he's been groomed for a
Speaker 1: while now to perhaps take over this post. What does
Speaker 1: he bring to the equation that perhaps Bob Stoops didn't.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, he's obviously an offensive guy, and he
Speaker 3: is a Mike Leach protege in that he started with
Speaker 3: Leach when he was a student assistant at Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: He's been an offensi quare for actually a long time,
Speaker 3: for seven years, so he has quite a bit of
Speaker 3: experience on that in front. But you know, still thirty
Speaker 3: three is what it is. But he also learned under
Speaker 3: Rushall McNeil, and he's learned under Bob. I think he's
Speaker 3: when I asked Leech earlier today about link so you know,
Speaker 3: this is a very Leech quote, too long to even
Speaker 3: get on Twitter, but it was he was like, becoming
Speaker 3: a head coach is like getting married. You're never really
Speaker 3: truly ready for it until you're in the middle of it.
Speaker 3: Because you had all kinds of all kinds of unwieldy
Speaker 3: stuff coming at you. But he did say Lincoln is
Speaker 3: probably as good outside of the box and independent thinker
Speaker 3: as there is, and he goes and a lot of times, guys,
Speaker 3: don't you know, that's pretty rare. So where guys are,
Speaker 3: you know, really real independent thinkers this day, especially younger
Speaker 3: coaches at that level. So I think, you know, there,
Speaker 3: now he's gonna have to lean on on Bob Stoops's
Speaker 3: old staff, you know, which is a lot of experienced guys.
Speaker 3: You know, his on line coach Bill Beadenbaugh and his
Speaker 3: receivers coach Dennis Simmons. There, guys he knows really well.
Speaker 3: And Dennis was somebody brought along, but the other guys
Speaker 3: really were. You know, It's a veteran staff, and I
Speaker 3: think that'll help, especially given the expectations are gonna be
Speaker 3: high with Baker Mayfield to still there in a really
Speaker 3: good offensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you think he can handle such
Speaker 1: a big job so soon?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 3: I mean, I unlike a lot of the Leech area guys,
Speaker 3: Lincoln's way more grounded. I mean, he just he's always
Speaker 3: been seen more mature than his years, and so I
Speaker 3: think he can handle it now. I mean he's going
Speaker 3: to go lead them to the playoffs and have you know,
Speaker 3: a national title in year or two's. That's that's a
Speaker 3: tall order. But I think he's going to be a
Speaker 3: successful head coach there, just because he's really, really smart,
Speaker 3: and he's really really focused, and I think he's had
Speaker 3: his eyes open for a long time for something like this.
Speaker 1: Do you think this will affect any kind of recruiting
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma?
Speaker 3: It might, but I'm not sure. If you know, Lincoln
Speaker 3: was a big reason why they got some of the
Speaker 3: offensive guys they got, so we'll see. I mean, they
Speaker 3: had a good year in two thirds, you know the
Speaker 3: class they sign. Still enough time between now and the
Speaker 3: early signing period where I think people are gonna want
Speaker 3: to wait and see. How you know, Oklahoma runs under
Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley and it's a big job. It's a huge job.
Speaker 1: Final question for you, mister Feldman, does it change the
Speaker 1: balance of power at all in the Big twelve?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, you know, if if
Speaker 3: Bob was taking Baker with him to be his caddy,
Speaker 3: maybe differently. But you know, they still have a great
Speaker 3: quarterback they still have the best offensive line in that
Speaker 3: in that league. They yeah, they have skill talent they
Speaker 3: got to replace, but you know, Tom Herman's that momentum,
Speaker 3: but they got a long way to go to get
Speaker 3: back to where, you know, to where OU is right
Speaker 3: now at Oklahoma State, I think has been very good
Speaker 3: on offense especially, But I did that game, the Bedroom
Speaker 3: game last year in rnment. Yeah, I know, you really
Speaker 3: took it to him. So I think it comes back
Speaker 3: to the players right now. Oh, he's got better players.
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't bet against Baker Mayfield in a Big
Speaker 3: twelve game right now.
Speaker 1: What does Bob Soops's handicap any idea?
Speaker 3: I think he's a high single digit Okay, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think he's a guy who can break eighty. But
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's the guy who shoots, you know,
Speaker 3: in the seventies often. But so two things about Bob Shoops,
Speaker 3: I think what's going after about it? One? And I
Speaker 3: say this was complete sincerity From years of covering the
Speaker 3: Football Foundation event in New York as well as the
Speaker 3: Coaches conventioned every year, there is no head coach in
Speaker 3: college football who has as much respect amongst other head
Speaker 3: coaches as Bob Stoops does, and the other part and
Speaker 3: maybe just kind of connected to it, just from being
Speaker 3: around the sport for a long time, it really stands
Speaker 3: out how many guys talk, not just guys, but their
Speaker 3: families talk about how good he is or was to
Speaker 3: work war and that credit is that our last part
Speaker 3: is a rarity, you know where you know, I remember,
Speaker 3: I have a buddy who I'm known for years who's
Speaker 3: an assistant coach, and his wife just was talking about
Speaker 3: all this, you know, how good he was to the
Speaker 3: coach's wives and how good he is to their families.
Speaker 3: And you know, you would think this stuff sounds like
Speaker 3: common sense, given how invested these these families are, but
Speaker 3: it's not the case usually and Stups was really really
Speaker 3: good about that, and that's why I think there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people who had such a respect for him,
Speaker 3: at least within the business.
Speaker 1: Well, it's big news, especially in the doldrums of the
Speaker 1: college football off season. June the seventh, again, Bob Stoop's
Speaker 1: stepping down effective, immediately handing the keys over to Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 1: Mister Feldman, happy anniversary to you, Thank you for giving
Speaker 1: us so much of your time, here on short notice,
Speaker 1: and uh we'll bring you back. We'll bring you back
Speaker 1: on on a different occasion.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: All right, big thanks to Bruce Feldman from Foxsports dot com.
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to Andy Staples here from Sports
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Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good. Surprised, Yeah, how about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because we've always talked, you know, amongst
Speaker 4: our our sportswriterselves, about you know, if anybody would would
Speaker 4: leave kind of early, Stoops would be that guy, because
Speaker 4: he started his head coach so young, and you know,
Speaker 4: it feels like he's been doing this forever and he
Speaker 4: really has. But he's not an old guy. He's fifty six.
Speaker 4: So I did look at that. Nick Saban turned fifty
Speaker 4: six during his first season at Alabama.
Speaker 2: Four national titles ago.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Bobby Bowden was in his sixties when he won his
Speaker 4: first national title. Tom Osborne when he won his first
Speaker 4: national title. So I mean, if you think about it
Speaker 4: from that perspective, this is pretty pretty shocking. But if
Speaker 4: you think about it from this guy's been a major
Speaker 4: college head coach for eighteen years, well, retirement doesn't sound
Speaker 4: like such a bad deal.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So I talked to Bruce before we brought you on,
Speaker 1: and Bruce said that there there was some indication that
Speaker 1: at some point in Stoops's career he might go this
Speaker 1: direction that you know, fifty five ish might have been
Speaker 1: that age for him where he thought about doing something
Speaker 1: else with his life. But still it definitely snuck up
Speaker 1: on a lot of people. I asked him, I'll ask you,
Speaker 1: do you have any concerns now about where the program
Speaker 1: goes with such a young guy like Lincoln Riley who's
Speaker 1: never had a head job before.
Speaker 4: No, because Lincoln Riley may be thirty three years old,
Speaker 4: but he didn't act like a thirty three year old.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's had his stuff together since he was
Speaker 4: a little baby. I think they I talked to Michaelee
Speaker 4: earlier today and he was telling me about when Lincoln
Speaker 4: Riley was on his team and Lincoln Riley was walking
Speaker 4: quarterback in Texas Tech and at the time, Leach had
Speaker 4: eight quarterbacks in the room, scholarship guys plus walk ons,
Speaker 4: and Riley had learned the offense quicker than anybody, but
Speaker 4: he just didn't have an arm And so Leach brings
Speaker 4: him in and cuts him and then tries to hire him.
Speaker 4: And he said that Riley had to go think on
Speaker 4: it for a day because he was mad about getting cut.
Speaker 4: But I mean his rise was pretty New York. I
Speaker 4: think he was twenty three when he got his first
Speaker 4: full time assistant coaching job at Texas Tech. He was
Speaker 4: twenty six the first time he called plays. He's it's
Speaker 4: oddly similar to Bob Stoops. I mean, Bob Stoops was
Speaker 4: the co defensive coordinator at Kansas State in his early thirties.
Speaker 4: You know, he got to Florida when he was thirty
Speaker 4: or he turned thirty six that first season in Florida.
Speaker 4: So you know, this is this is not a this
Speaker 4: is not that big of a difference. He was thirty
Speaker 4: nine as the as the head coach at Oklahoma. I'm
Speaker 4: about to turn thirty nine right now. I can tell
Speaker 4: you right now, I wouldn't hire myself to run a berger.
Speaker 4: I think I think most there are just some people
Speaker 4: who can do this and who are good managers and
Speaker 4: good organizers and have their stuff together.
Speaker 2: I think Lincoln Riley is one of those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not so much spooked by the fact that
Speaker 1: he's younger than both you and I, and certainly he
Speaker 1: is eminently qualified given past experience, to maybe take on
Speaker 1: this role. But we've seen it time and time again,
Speaker 1: very good coaches step into that spotlight and for one
Speaker 1: reason or another that they're not able to handle it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an interesting guy after the guy situation. This
Speaker 4: is this is the coach in waiting. Who would have
Speaker 4: I mean, he would have been the coach in waiting
Speaker 4: had they decided to go that route. They never called
Speaker 4: it that, but it was obvious he was turning down
Speaker 4: head coaching jobs on the off chance that Bob Steus
Speaker 4: would retire and he'd be the head coach at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Interesting stuff. We will see what happens, and surely more
Speaker 1: to come on Bob Stoop's Lincoln Riley here over the
Speaker 1: next couple weeks and months, but usually not the kind
Speaker 1: of thing that you expect to hear on June seventh.
Speaker 1: I don't, as I said to Bruce, I don't question
Speaker 1: the motives, but the timing to me was a bit odd.
Speaker 4: Well and yeah, I mean, and you know, it's weird
Speaker 4: because sometimes when you see it, like I almost expected
Speaker 4: Bill Snyder to do something like this so he could
Speaker 4: dictate the terms of his replacement, give his son a
Speaker 4: chance to get the head coaching job, sort of like
Speaker 4: Bo Ryan did when he retired from Wisconsin as the
Speaker 4: basketball coach. You know, he wanted Greg Gard to have
Speaker 4: a chance to get the job, and he felt like,
Speaker 4: if you retire right then, then guard has to coach
Speaker 4: out the rest of the season and that'll be his audition,
Speaker 4: which as we know now turned out really well. But
Speaker 4: in this case, he could have announced this after the season,
Speaker 4: they would have made the same soon. They wouldn't have
Speaker 4: gone a coaching search, they would have just hired Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 4: So I don't think there's anybody in Norman who would
Speaker 4: disagree with this choice.
Speaker 2: So you know that timing of it is a bit odd.
Speaker 1: Well, the other big news that I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: you on to discuss a little bit. I know you're
Speaker 1: a Florida guy. You covered the sec very intently as well.
Speaker 1: Malik'saier announced that he is grad transferring away from Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: To no one's surprised at this point, but there were
Speaker 1: rumors about where he might end up. He lands at Florida,
Speaker 1: a school that's had some difficulty trying to find a
Speaker 1: quarterback that just scoch you could say, right, that could
Speaker 1: move the offense forward. How does he now fit into
Speaker 1: this equation for Jim Mackaway at Florida.
Speaker 4: It comes along in an advantageous time for whoever winds
Speaker 4: up being starting quarterback at Florida this year.
Speaker 2: And I am not notice.
Speaker 4: I am not assuming he's going to be the starting
Speaker 4: quarterback because I think this dragged out this long because
Speaker 4: he couldn't get any sort of assurance because he was
Speaker 4: going to start anywhere. And you know, I think he's
Speaker 4: probably gonna have to duke it out with Felipe Franks
Speaker 4: to see who wins the job. But I would imagine
Speaker 4: that Florida was of the schools he was looking at.
Speaker 4: Florida's his best chance to win a starting job. But
Speaker 4: this is the best receiving group Florida's had, probably since
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, the best line they've had since
Speaker 4: mclwayane's been there. They got good running backs, so the
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in a lot better positioned this year than the
Speaker 4: quarterbacks the last two years. Those guys were kind of
Speaker 4: running for their lives, didn't really have anybody dynamic other
Speaker 4: than Antonio Callaway to throw to. That's not the case
Speaker 4: this year. They're going to have people to throw to.
Speaker 4: They're going to have a more serviceable line. I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's going to be a great line, but
Speaker 4: it's going to be a serviceable one, which is a
Speaker 4: massive improvement over what they had a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Ago.
Speaker 4: So whoever wins that job, I think he's gonna look
Speaker 4: a little better just because there's.
Speaker 2: Some talent around. But that doesn't mean.
Speaker 4: Suddenly Florida's offense is going to go from the hundreds
Speaker 4: to the single digits. And in the rankings, they've got
Speaker 4: a lot of work.
Speaker 1: At least they've got some depth though. And that's the
Speaker 1: yeah thing because as you know previous seasons, quarterback A
Speaker 1: goes down, you're down at year back d. So at
Speaker 1: least you've got a decent option in Zaire even if
Speaker 1: he ends up being the backup, or if Frank's ends
Speaker 1: up being the backup exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, Frank's is one of those guys that the
Speaker 4: recruit Nick said, you don't need to start him until
Speaker 4: at least year three.
Speaker 2: He just needs time.
Speaker 4: He's very raw, he's very athletic, needs time to developed. Well,
Speaker 4: he's in year two right now. So that's that's what
Speaker 4: you get.
Speaker 2: Zai.
Speaker 4: Here's an interesting case to me, because you know, Ty,
Speaker 4: you you're a notre dame guy.
Speaker 2: Tell me about the two games Maliks that you're playing. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I mean really really, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: He played in the now he played during the twenty
Speaker 4: fourteen season, but that LSU game was kind of his
Speaker 4: coming out party. Sure, he looked like a world beater
Speaker 4: in the season opener in twenty fifteen against Texas, but
Speaker 4: I think that was the case of, you know, we
Speaker 4: looked at it in like, Wow, he destroyed Texas, and
Speaker 4: then if you thought about it later in the season,
Speaker 4: you're like, whoah, that Texas defense is really bad. Sure,
Speaker 4: so then he gets hurt against Virginia and Kaiser comes in. Now,
Speaker 4: I was at the Texas game last year, and I
Speaker 4: remember the series, the couple series that Zaire played, thinking,
Speaker 4: how on earth did they look at Kaiser and look
Speaker 4: at him and say they were dead?
Speaker 2: Even what were they watching? Now, I've been told from people.
Speaker 4: Who are practiced that it was a lot closer than
Speaker 4: what it looked like in that particular game, but it
Speaker 4: sure looked like a big difference to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Kelly was in a bad spot, to
Speaker 1: be honest, and I'm not sure despite the fact that
Speaker 1: he tried to project confidence at the start of last season,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he was ever in a position where
Speaker 1: he fully felt comfortable with what he was doing. I
Speaker 1: think he liked personally both quarterbacks a lot, and both
Speaker 1: quarterbacks had that leadership mentality, that that X factor that
Speaker 1: you need to play quarterback at a high level. And
Speaker 1: so for that reason, I'm not going to say the
Speaker 1: locker room was split, but you had guys that could
Speaker 1: fall really on either side of the fence.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing I think there was. There were
Speaker 4: definitely some some zayre guys, and so.
Speaker 2: He had to get a chance. And also, if you're
Speaker 2: a coach, you don't want to you don't want.
Speaker 4: To Wally pip one of your players, right, you know,
Speaker 4: it's not Zaya your's fault.
Speaker 2: He got hurt.
Speaker 4: So I don't disagree with Kelly making sure he had
Speaker 4: a chance to show what he could do in a game.
Speaker 4: But it's one of those things where you know, you
Speaker 4: look back on it now and you're like, well, if
Speaker 4: they'd erepped Heiser with the ones the entire offseason, Yeah,
Speaker 4: how different might that have turned out?
Speaker 2: Doesn't change how bad the defense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't change how bad the defense was. But I
Speaker 1: think you're right to the extent that if Kaiser had
Speaker 1: gotten all the first team reps, it might have been
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different story just by virtue
Speaker 1: of the fact that he tried to use both of
Speaker 1: them to integrate them into the same system. Combined with
Speaker 1: the fact that there was some turnover at wide receiver,
Speaker 1: it was just too much for them to bear on offense.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll see the zi era, as we've called
Speaker 1: it here on the podcast, is now coming to Gainesville.
Speaker 4: I do like to needle the Florida fans in my
Speaker 4: general vicinity by telling them that my prediction is Luke
Speaker 4: del Rio will start.
Speaker 2: The first game.
Speaker 4: He is coming back from shoulder surgery, so right, that
Speaker 4: is a possibility, But now I think I it's going
Speaker 4: to be Zayra Franks.
Speaker 1: Well, I did notice that one of your colleagues at SI,
Speaker 1: Brian Hamilton, put out a way too early top twenty five,
Speaker 1: and I you know, you have a tendency to look
Speaker 1: at these things in the very very very again deep
Speaker 1: duldrums of the offseason.
Speaker 2: Or entertainment purposes.
Speaker 1: Only right, for entertainment purposes, only you can look at
Speaker 1: them and say that team's too high, that team's too low.
Speaker 1: So I want to go through this and see if
Speaker 1: you had any any snap judgments based on what we're seeing.
Speaker 1: His top five is Alabama, Florida State, USC, Ohio State,
Speaker 1: and Penn State. Now, I have been as a Penn
Speaker 1: State alum, and perhaps to my detriment, very very leary
Speaker 1: about fully buying into the Trace mcsorly thing.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with Trace mcsorly.
Speaker 4: I just be cautious because they caught some breaks down
Speaker 4: the stretch last year. Sometimes you don't catch those breaks
Speaker 4: even if you have a better team, and that they
Speaker 4: may actually be better this year than they were last year,
Speaker 4: but it may not fall the same way.
Speaker 1: People have asked me, Andy, why are you so leary
Speaker 1: on mcsorly. I can't describe it. It's a gut thing.
Speaker 1: I have no real rational reason.
Speaker 2: To die think he's doing so much fun.
Speaker 4: That's but yes, he part of the reason why he's
Speaker 4: so much fun is you do feel like he's kind
Speaker 4: of teetering on the edge a lot of the time,
Speaker 4: that he is very confident in his ability to get
Speaker 4: the ball in there, and you know they're going to
Speaker 4: be there's gonna be one one day, one Saturday.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't quite do that.
Speaker 1: It feels like he's got a seven interception game in
Speaker 1: him all the time.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: But that's what makes it so much fun, because when
Speaker 4: it goes through the defender's hands and into a receiver's hands, you're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, how did he do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a blast to watch, so I am. And
Speaker 4: also I like Joe Moorehead's offense, but you know, it's weird.
Speaker 4: I did a story in twenty fifteen about a player
Speaker 4: that Moreheaded coached at Fordham who wound up starting a.
Speaker 2: Right tackle at Florida just because they needed somebody.
Speaker 4: And so I got to watch a lot of that
Speaker 4: that Fordham offense and I talked to Morehead about it
Speaker 4: when he was the head coach at Fordham, and Wow,
Speaker 4: this thing is super efficient and really keeps defenses guessing.
Speaker 4: And and then you saw it in action in the
Speaker 4: Big Ten last year and guess what it translates?
Speaker 2: Very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to see what they can do. I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit leary about Mick Sorely. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens now that Godwin has moved on to Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: but certainly they'll be one of the more interesting and
Speaker 1: fun teams to one end.
Speaker 4: State always has some sort of freaky body control receiver though, Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's always some guy who's like six to one who
Speaker 4: wins every fifty to fifty ball that for whatever reason
Speaker 4: can just hang in the air and catch everything.
Speaker 2: I don't know where.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a pipeline where it's sort of like
Speaker 4: the same assembly line where Alabama makes the coke machine
Speaker 4: sized running backs.
Speaker 2: Penn State's got that.
Speaker 1: One going well. As you know. Penn State played USC
Speaker 1: and the Rose Bowl, and USC is the team I
Speaker 1: think in this top five that I'm most interested to
Speaker 1: get your read on Alabama and FSU. We know they'll
Speaker 1: be loaded. Ohio State seems to just reload year in
Speaker 1: a year.
Speaker 2: In pennsall line is going to be really good this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But USC to me is always the interesting one
Speaker 1: because there's always this preseason hype. We saw it last year.
Speaker 1: It obviously didn't pan out in the first half of
Speaker 1: the season, but then they made the transition over to
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and things really took flight. Now we're in
Speaker 1: this position where people are talking up Donald as the
Speaker 1: Heisman front runner, potentially the first overall pick, and Brian
Speaker 1: Hamilton there has them at number three. Is that too
Speaker 1: high for a USC team?
Speaker 2: It's fine, I mean, that's the thing I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're going to do.
Speaker 4: They could they could just ride the way that they
Speaker 4: were riding last season. They're the most physically talented team
Speaker 4: in the Pac twelve, so they should be able to
Speaker 4: beat everybody in the Pac twelve the way I mean
Speaker 4: the way they beat Washington, and Washington was a really
Speaker 4: good team. That that is the sign of a talented roster.
Speaker 4: You know, USC still has better players than most of
Speaker 4: the teams they play, and before it was a case
Speaker 4: where they just weren't getting enough out of those players.
Speaker 4: But it seems like Helton once he switched to Darnald,
Speaker 4: I mean that that was kind of the original sin
Speaker 4: that cost them a lot last season. But now that
Speaker 4: that's corrected, he seems to be able to get quite
Speaker 4: a bit out of the talent he has. They don't
Speaker 4: seem to underachieve physically with him, so I'm fine with
Speaker 4: him being ranked that high.
Speaker 1: My question is, if you don't have them in the
Speaker 1: top five, where do you have them, Because as I
Speaker 1: look at the rest of this again way too early
Speaker 1: for entertainment purposes, only top twenty five, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much further down you could put USC no, I
Speaker 1: mean ridiculous.
Speaker 4: I'm going to rank them higher than anybody else in
Speaker 4: Pact twelve, mostly because of the honestly, mostly because of
Speaker 4: the way.
Speaker 2: They beat Washington last year. I think.
Speaker 4: I think Washington is also going to be really good.
Speaker 4: I know they lost a lot of their secondary and
Speaker 4: they lost John Ross, but they're still going to be
Speaker 4: very good.
Speaker 2: And USC Clopbard that very good team on the road.
Speaker 1: The next group of five teams that he's got here,
Speaker 1: not group of five, but the next tier of freight
Speaker 1: teams six through ten is Clemson, Oklahoma. Obviously we've talked
Speaker 1: a lot about Oklahoma this show, Washington, Oklahoma State, and Auburn.
Speaker 1: The two that are of most interest to me are
Speaker 1: Clemson and Auburn.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Both presumably have new starting quarterbacks, right.
Speaker 2: Yep, Well yeah they will.
Speaker 4: And I'm more confident in Clemson than I am in Auburn.
Speaker 4: I think Dabo's got it now where they're a machine,
Speaker 4: just like Florida State's machine, like Ohio States and machine
Speaker 4: like Alabama's a machine.
Speaker 2: They're just going to keep that going.
Speaker 4: Auburn, I don't know yet, I you know, I don't
Speaker 4: know about the Jared Sidham hype.
Speaker 2: I know he's got a great arm.
Speaker 4: I know he was fantastic in the time he did
Speaker 4: play as a freshman at Baylor, but he got hurt
Speaker 4: for quickly. He's going to get hit a lot in
Speaker 4: the SEC, even if they have a pretty good offensive line.
Speaker 2: So, and this is you know with Gus.
Speaker 4: Remember he hasn't had a successful SEC offense that didn't
Speaker 4: involve a quarterback who could run. Now, he's had good
Speaker 4: offenses in the past when he was at Tulsa and
Speaker 4: then you go back to his Springdale High days where
Speaker 4: it was more of a drop back passer guy, and
Speaker 4: he did some really creative stuff with him and just
Speaker 4: mess with defensive heads. But look at who they've been
Speaker 4: successful with in the time he's either been offense coordinator,
Speaker 4: head coach at Auburn, Cam Newton and Nick Marshall.
Speaker 2: Right, Jared didn't have done run like either one of
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't.
Speaker 4: So now I do think their running game is going
Speaker 4: to be good. I think they're lying and their stable
Speaker 4: of backs is good enough that you don't necessarinsarily need
Speaker 4: that big of a threat of a quarterback run to
Speaker 4: be able to move the ball. I'm more concerned actually
Speaker 4: with them on defense, just because they lost some really
Speaker 4: good players. You know, Montrevius Adams was outstanding for al
Speaker 4: Austin was really good. They had kind of it built
Speaker 4: up to last year on defense. They needed needed some
Speaker 4: time to get where they were going, and that that.
Speaker 2: Defense kept them in a lot of games last year.
Speaker 4: So if it takes a step back, then that's just
Speaker 4: even more the offense has to make up.
Speaker 1: I'm supremely curious about what happens with the Auburn at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Somewhere in the pit of my stomach, Andy, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's an over under three and a half games
Speaker 1: that Sean White is still going to play quarterback.
Speaker 4: Oh I, I think that's a pretty good bet because
Speaker 4: Stidham's gonna get hit, you know, and we don't know
Speaker 4: what the if the injury at Baylor's freshman year, if
Speaker 4: that was a fluky.
Speaker 2: Thing or if that was just he got injured.
Speaker 4: A bunch of players is at Baylor because they were
Speaker 4: running him a lot even though they knew there wasn't
Speaker 4: much behind him.
Speaker 2: So I don't think Gus is going to run him
Speaker 2: that much.
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm looking at the final three tiers
Speaker 1: here that Brian put together. Here are the three teams
Speaker 1: that I think I'm most interested in getting your take
Speaker 1: on LSU, Michigan and Tennessee, all for different reasons. LSU
Speaker 1: obviously is trying to transition to a different offensive system.
Speaker 1: Offense has been an issue for them for a while,
Speaker 1: Michigan because they're rebooting at a bunch of key positions
Speaker 1: and they lose a ton and Tennessee because it's growing
Speaker 1: increasingly more obvious that Butch Jones is on somewhat of
Speaker 1: a hot seat.
Speaker 4: So LSU was interesting because you look at what Matt
Speaker 4: Canada did walking into Pittsburgh last year with no assistance
Speaker 4: coming with him by the way, by himself, and that
Speaker 4: offense was unstoppable at times with Nathan Peterman at quarterback,
Speaker 4: who you know he'd done all right, and Jim Cheney
Speaker 4: system the year before, but the people who remember him
Speaker 4: from Tennessee will remember that he didn't play very well there.
Speaker 2: So I think Matt Canada, if he can get.
Speaker 4: LSU distributing the ball to its playmakers, can make that offense.
Speaker 4: And the thing about is LSU has as many good
Speaker 4: athletes on offense as they have on defense. You just
Speaker 4: wouldn't know it because Les Miles would pick whoever the
Speaker 4: best tailback was and just ride him relentlessly and not
Speaker 4: worry about anybody else. That's why he got fired. So
Speaker 4: ed oars Ron didn't change anything. On defense, Dave Ryan
Speaker 4: is still running the show. Hired a guy who will
Speaker 4: distribute the ball, and my guess is if Danny Etling
Speaker 4: distributes it accurately, they're going to be very hard to stop.
Speaker 1: Between Michigan and Tennessee, Andy, which of those those two
Speaker 1: teams are you most interested in? Which do you think
Speaker 1: has I don't know, I guess the most intrigue As
Speaker 1: we head into the season, I.
Speaker 4: Feel like Tennessee has a lot bigger space between the
Speaker 4: floor and the ceiling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the floor.
Speaker 4: Is Busch Jones gets fired the ceiling as they win
Speaker 4: the East. So and I think they should be better
Speaker 4: on defense because I can't imagine a team having worse
Speaker 4: injury luck on one side of the all than than
Speaker 4: Tennessee's defense did last year. And then offensively, we'll see,
Speaker 4: But dorn Tino and Dormandy, I think there's some other
Speaker 4: SEC schools that would like to have either one of
Speaker 4: those guys. So it's a pretty good choice that the
Speaker 4: Bush has to make a quarterback.
Speaker 2: I love Kellie at running back.
Speaker 4: That dude runs so violently, and so I think, and
Speaker 4: this this should be the best offensive line they've had
Speaker 4: in the Butch Jones era.
Speaker 2: So I don't.
Speaker 4: I am not automatically writing them off and firing Butch Jones.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are.
Speaker 4: I want to see him play. They got a pretty
Speaker 4: tough September. We'll know what they are after September. Michigan's
Speaker 4: interesting because we don't know what they're going to be yet.
Speaker 4: And I keep telling everybody that Michigan Florida game, Maybe
Speaker 4: a lot of people who make definitive proclamations after that game,
Speaker 4: that game's not gonna tell us anything because we don't
Speaker 4: know what either of those teams will be. So that's
Speaker 4: one of those that we could be watching two good teams,
Speaker 4: we could be watching two mediocre teams. But I mean,
Speaker 4: here's the thing. Other than that first year at Stanford
Speaker 4: and even then they beat USC, Jim Harbaugh's never coached
Speaker 4: a bad team, and I'm including his time in the
Speaker 4: NFL very true, So they're not going to take that
Speaker 4: big of a step back. Plus now you're getting players
Speaker 4: that they recruited getting developed. And I know Brady Hope
Speaker 4: recruited some good players that Harbor then subsequently developed. But
Speaker 4: if you look go back to Harbat Stanford, he's seriously
Speaker 4: upgraded at roster.
Speaker 2: He's a good recruiter.
Speaker 4: So my guess is by the middle of the season,
Speaker 4: that's a pretty pretty solid team.
Speaker 1: I'll throw one other team in here, and then I
Speaker 1: want to move on to a different topic altogether. But
Speaker 1: Texas obviously the news new head football coach Tom Herman.
Speaker 1: Not all rebuilds, as you know, are created equally. How
Speaker 1: big of a rebuild is it at Texas is not.
Speaker 4: Nearly as big as when Charlie Strong took over. To
Speaker 4: put it in perspective, Charlie Strong inherited a better roster
Speaker 4: this year at USF Romilly Taggert than he inherited from.
Speaker 2: Mac Brown when he got to Texas.
Speaker 4: So I mean that tells you and Tom Herman inherited
Speaker 4: a big twelve roster. Now there are some holes, there
Speaker 4: are some problem areas, but he's got big twelve talent.
Speaker 4: He's got what he needs to be successful, and then
Speaker 4: he can obviously recruit on top of that. But my
Speaker 4: question is, how do you change the attitude? You know,
Speaker 4: when they got to Houston, that was a team that
Speaker 4: was coming off an eight win season.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So now Tom has told me that he actually felt
Speaker 4: like it was more resistance at Houston because guys were
Speaker 4: in the mindset of, hey, we weren't awful, why are
Speaker 4: you coming in trying to change everything. At Texas, it
Speaker 4: was more like, we know we were bad. We lost
Speaker 4: seven games three years in a row. By all means
Speaker 4: change whatever you want. We'll do whatever you want. So
Speaker 4: we'll see how that goes. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 4: they're mentally where he wants them to be, and probably
Speaker 4: won't be this season, but he squeezed an awful lot
Speaker 4: out of those Houston guys that first year, and I
Speaker 4: would bet that there's going to be some pretty dramatic
Speaker 4: improvement in terms of record at Texas.
Speaker 1: I will post the link to Brian's again way too
Speaker 1: early for entertainment purposes, only top twenty five in the
Speaker 1: description for this podcast, so feel free to go on
Speaker 1: to the site celiverble dot com let us know what
Speaker 1: you think of Who's too high, Who's too low? Again,
Speaker 1: very very early. Don't take it with more than a
Speaker 1: grain of salt, but just food for thought here as
Speaker 1: we try to get some college football in the diet
Speaker 1: despite the fact that there's not really a whole lot
Speaker 1: of other stuff going on. The one thing that I
Speaker 1: did want to bring up with you as we sort
Speaker 1: of wind it down here, and I know this is
Speaker 1: something that we discussed before, but I made what I
Speaker 1: consider a pretty big life decision and I cut the court.
Speaker 4: Ooh, enjoy the buffering. Yeah, well, it's been good to
Speaker 4: be seconds behind. It's been good so far. YouTube live
Speaker 4: YouTube TV live has has been my choice, and it
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like there's been too much of a delay.
Speaker 4: But this is something that's accelerating.
Speaker 1: And I know we've talked about it on our show
Speaker 1: at some point here with you about how that all
Speaker 1: found actors into the economics of college football, howe how
Speaker 1: that affects the viewing experience, how that affects just the
Speaker 1: general perception of what college football is. It's obviously not
Speaker 1: something that is slowing down. And I'm curious just to
Speaker 1: kind of get your big picture perspective about where you
Speaker 1: see all of this driving college football, because it does
Speaker 1: drive college football at some point in the next five
Speaker 1: to ten years.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the commissioners and the ads are all
Speaker 4: praying that Amazon or.
Speaker 2: Google or Apple or.
Speaker 4: Netflix or somebody jumps in so they'll pay they can
Speaker 4: get paid what they're being paid now. I don't think
Speaker 4: anybody's even looking for increases on their next.
Speaker 2: Deal just to bility. I think they they'd be happy
Speaker 2: to get paid what they get paid now. And the assumption.
Speaker 4: It's interesting because the assumption is that because because Google
Speaker 4: is the biggest company on well I don't know if
Speaker 4: Apple or Google's the bigest company on Earth.
Speaker 2: But whatever, whatever they.
Speaker 4: Pay, whatever ESPN pays these conferences would be a rounding
Speaker 4: error for these other companies we're talking about. Sure, but
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean they're going to overspend. It's it's sort
Speaker 4: of like the episode of The Simpsons where Homer starts
Speaker 4: the Internet company and Bill Gates comes to buy him
Speaker 4: out with a bunch of baseball bats, right, and I
Speaker 4: didn't get rich right in checks. So they're going to
Speaker 4: pay market value, whatever that is. And with ESPN's revenue
Speaker 4: going down because of cord cutters like yourself, and their
Speaker 4: overhead going up because the NFL wants what it wants
Speaker 4: the NBA is gonna get three billion dollars a year,
Speaker 4: because that's what the deal is. I don't I mean,
Speaker 4: somebody might pay what they're paying now, but I'm not
Speaker 4: sure anything goes up dramatically. But as far as the
Speaker 4: Internet part of it goes I think by twenty twenty
Speaker 4: four twenty twenty five, when these rights deals come up,
Speaker 4: I think most people will have access to.
Speaker 2: Some pretty fast Internet.
Speaker 4: I don't know that the picture coming in will look
Speaker 4: dramatically different. I think the buffering will probably be gone.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think about what my internet service looked
Speaker 4: like six or seven years ago and what it looks
Speaker 4: like now. I just just moved into a new house
Speaker 4: on Saturday, and this is the first time I've had
Speaker 4: the gigabit Internet available to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, welcome, and it is the twenty first century Andy.
Speaker 2: It is ridiculously fast.
Speaker 4: I have no worries about streaming anything. So that and
Speaker 4: the other part of it is every you know, there
Speaker 4: are people who are usually tied financially in somebody to
Speaker 4: the cable industry will tell you, oh, yeah, enjoy being
Speaker 4: forty five seconds behind, which is joke I made a
Speaker 4: few minutes ago. But if everybody's streaming it, nobody's really
Speaker 4: behind because you don't know what just happened in the
Speaker 4: stadium unless I guess, unless you're reading tweets from the stadium.
Speaker 4: But that happens on TV too, because I've I've been
Speaker 4: covering games live and tweeted something and people like stop
Speaker 4: that it's like ten seconds.
Speaker 2: Ahead of my TV.
Speaker 4: So if everybody's in the same boat, I don't think
Speaker 4: it's going to be that bad of a user experience.
Speaker 1: I don't think it will either. They've already made strides
Speaker 1: to reduce that lag time, and that, to me is
Speaker 1: the least of my concerns. That said, I haven't watched
Speaker 1: a college football season.
Speaker 2: Well, I was watching people tweet.
Speaker 4: I was watching Chord Cutter New Chord Cutters, like our
Speaker 4: friend Stuart Mandel tweeting the NBA Finals the other night,
Speaker 4: and they were consistently about forty five seconds behind, and
Speaker 4: they were complaining about it.
Speaker 2: But I still think.
Speaker 4: If everybody's watching it on Amazon Prime, I don't think
Speaker 4: you get that well.
Speaker 1: And also, the crowd on Twitter does not represent the
Speaker 1: bulk of the people, right, that's any sporting event, it's audience,
Speaker 1: right that that is following along on tweet deck or what.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: I think we're not that far off from a time
Speaker 4: where the cable and satellite companies are not the behemoth
Speaker 4: they are now.
Speaker 1: It's just really interesting to me because it's more accessible
Speaker 1: now than ever. It's obviously had an effect on some
Speaker 1: of the major networks, and like you said twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: when it comes time again to take some of these
Speaker 1: rights out and get bids, I think places like the
Speaker 1: Pack twelve or Big twelve whoever, will be a lot
Speaker 1: less anxious about giving Google a spin, giving Amazon spin.
Speaker 4: No, if Google or Amazon, if Google or Amazon wants
Speaker 4: to do business with them, they will crawl on hands
Speaker 4: and knees to Google and Amazon. Watch this Amazon NFL experiment.
Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting. So they're not paying a
Speaker 4: ton for it because it's it's basically they're streaming games
Speaker 4: that are already on television. But what they're trying to
Speaker 4: find out is how sports fans watching a streaming event
Speaker 4: on their surface behave. Because the one thing Amazon can
Speaker 4: do that your TV can't do is if you see
Speaker 4: a commercial on an Amazon Prime broadcast of a football
Speaker 4: game and you like the product, you can click and
Speaker 4: buy the product and it'll be in your door the
Speaker 4: next day so or, depending on how big a city
Speaker 4: you're in, might be at your house in two hours.
Speaker 2: So if they find that it drives sales.
Speaker 4: And here's the thing I found interesting is the Amazon
Speaker 4: research a few years ago showed that Prime members tend
Speaker 4: to spend fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2: Dollars more per year on Amazon than non Prime members.
Speaker 4: Well, if being a Prime member is the only way
Speaker 4: to see Big ten football, guess how many more Amazon
Speaker 4: Prime members they're going to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My big predict for streaming TV as it relates
Speaker 1: to Amazon and Google is that they're the only two
Speaker 1: companies that can somewhat harvest what you're doing when you
Speaker 1: go out on the web and just do whatever, and
Speaker 1: ultimately they can subsidize more programming with higher ad rates.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Apple won't do it unless it drives device sales.
Speaker 4: Netflix will create its own X games type shorting events.
Speaker 4: They already did it with this weird one weird obstacle
Speaker 4: course game that my kids got it into and we
Speaker 4: binge watched it. But it's not that I don't see
Speaker 4: Netflix ever getting in a live sports so I don't
Speaker 4: see what's in it for them.
Speaker 1: Well, it's an interesting discussion and I'm curious to see
Speaker 1: how it goes. But I will certainly report back throughout
Speaker 1: the course of the season. Hopefully I'm not on a
Speaker 1: forty five second delay.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing is, stay off Twitter. You don't
Speaker 2: even know you.
Speaker 1: Are, and staying off Twitter is a good life decision,
Speaker 1: by the way.
Speaker 2: Just f one pretty much.
Speaker 1: All right, What is on tap for you over the
Speaker 1: next couple of months now as we sort of slowly
Speaker 1: build towards the twenty seventeen season.
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully for the next two and a half weeks nothing.
Speaker 4: Hopefully this will be the one time I come off vacation.
Speaker 4: Now I'm still doing radio shows, so I'm not good
Speaker 4: at taking time off, but I am off all of
Speaker 4: next week for real. So hopefully it will just be
Speaker 4: me and a beach and something with alcoholing it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I hope for.
Speaker 4: And then once Meetia days and all that get cranked up,
Speaker 4: it's just right back into it. You know, we're gonna
Speaker 4: We're gonna have some fun, a lot more food stuff,
Speaker 4: I think this year, So it'll be an interesting season
Speaker 4: to be sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, we will talk to you again sometime
Speaker 1: soon and in the meantime, best of luck with all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Hopefully you get that drink on the beach,
Speaker 1: just the one all right again. It's Andy Staples from
Speaker 1: SI dot com Sports Illustrated and Serious XM. Check him out,
Speaker 1: drop him a line. He is on Twitter at Andy
Speaker 1: Underscore Staples. My name is ty Hildebrand. Dan Rubenstein will
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