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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 1: So tonight's actually a rare show for a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different reasons. First and foremost, I am flying solo, which

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Speaker 1: is something I hardly ever do. Most importantly, though, we

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Speaker 1: get to discuss some real, actual breaking news. That's sorry

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Speaker 1: breaking news on June the seventh, deep in the heart

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Speaker 1: of college football off season, and on top of that,

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Speaker 1: the stars weirdly aligned in a way that gives us

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Speaker 1: both Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports and Andy Staples from

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated on the same episode to discuss news of

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Speaker 1: the day and much much more. And there is some

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Speaker 1: rather significant news in the college football world effective immediately.

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Speaker 1: Bob Stoops is stepping down from his post at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Seems to have come a little bit out of left field.

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Speaker 1: He's been there since nineteen ninety none. Obviously, you know

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Speaker 1: his resume, one of the more elite, most accomplished coaches

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Speaker 1: in the game. Certainly there have been rumors for a

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Speaker 1: long time about him going elsewhere. Lord knows those aren't

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Speaker 1: gonna let up anytime soon now that he is effectively

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Speaker 1: a free agent. Suffice to say, there are a ton

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Speaker 1: of questions about the timing, the motives, the replacement, etc. Etc.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in. Let's start dissecting this with our friend

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Speaker 1: Bruce Felman from Fox Sports joining me to discuss the

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Speaker 1: news of the day. Very pleased to welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show longtime friend of the podcast, mister Bruce Feldman

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Speaker 1: from Fox Sports, sir, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. It's good to be out with my favorite.

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Speaker 1: Half of thank you, Thank You on your anniversary. No less,

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Speaker 1: I understand.

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Speaker 3: I know that's probably not going well, but it's been

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Speaker 3: that kind of day around my head.

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Speaker 1: So I guess the question is, did you see this

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Speaker 1: news about Bob Stoop's coming at all? Were you tipped

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was been some rumblings. I mean last week

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Speaker 3: like they had announced they had decided it and stayed on.

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Speaker 3: And then earlier this week, you know, started hearing more

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Lincoln Riley is a guy that that people are

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Speaker 1: Why did he feel the need to do this now?

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Speaker 3: the students, really, because the guy who probably knows him best,

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Speaker 3: He would wanted to step down at it and he goes.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he is. I don't think he's changing

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Speaker 1: That's pretty incredible. And I think back a little bit

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Speaker 1: Is he going to take an Ohio State job? Obviously

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Speaker 3: urban Meyer is one of these guys who was grinding

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Speaker 1: So now it's turned over to Lincoln Riley, a younger guy,

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Speaker 1: only thirty three. You said, he's been groomed for a

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Speaker 1: while now to perhaps take over this post. What does

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Speaker 1: he bring to the equation that perhaps Bob Stoops didn't.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, he's obviously an offensive guy, and he

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Speaker 3: He's been an offensi quare for actually a long time,

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Speaker 3: three is what it is. But he also learned under

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Speaker 3: Rushall McNeil, and he's learned under Bob. I think he's

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Speaker 3: when I asked Leech earlier today about link so you know,

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Speaker 3: this is a very Leech quote, too long to even

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Speaker 3: a head coach is like getting married. You're never really

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Speaker 3: Because you had all kinds of all kinds of unwieldy

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Speaker 3: don't you know, that's pretty rare. So where guys are,

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Speaker 3: You know, his on line coach Bill Beadenbaugh and his

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Speaker 3: And Dennis was somebody brought along, but the other guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you think he can handle such

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Speaker 3: I mean, I unlike a lot of the Leech area guys,

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Speaker 3: Lincoln's way more grounded. I mean, he just he's always

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Speaker 3: and he's really really focused, and I think he's had

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Speaker 1: Do you think this will affect any kind of recruiting

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Speaker 3: It might, but I'm not sure. If you know, Lincoln

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Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley and it's a big job. It's a huge job.

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Speaker 1: Final question for you, mister Feldman, does it change the

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, you know, if if

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Speaker 3: maybe differently. But you know, they still have a great

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Speaker 3: to the players right now. Oh, he's got better players.

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't bet against Baker Mayfield in a Big

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Speaker 1: What does Bob Soops's handicap any idea?

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Speaker 3: I think he's a high single digit Okay, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a guy who can break eighty. But

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's the guy who shoots, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think what's going after about it? One? And I

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Speaker 3: say this was complete sincerity From years of covering the

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Speaker 1: Mister Feldman, happy anniversary to you, Thank you for giving

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Interesting stuff. We will see what happens, and surely more

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Speaker 1: At least they've got some depth though. And that's the

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Frank's is one of those guys that the

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Speaker 4: Here's an interesting case to me, because you know, Ty,

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Speaker 2: Tell me about the two games Maliks that you're playing. Yeah, well,

436
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: I mean really really, that's what we're talking about.

437
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: He played in the now he played during the twenty

438
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 4: fourteen season, but that LSU game was kind of his

439
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 4: coming out party. Sure, he looked like a world beater

440
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 4: in the season opener in twenty fifteen against Texas, but

441
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 4: I think that was the case of, you know, we

442
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 4: looked at it in like, Wow, he destroyed Texas, and

443
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: then if you thought about it later in the season,

444
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: you're like, whoah, that Texas defense is really bad. Sure,

445
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 4: so then he gets hurt against Virginia and Kaiser comes in. Now,

446
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 4: I was at the Texas game last year, and I

447
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: remember the series, the couple series that Zaire played, thinking,

448
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 4: how on earth did they look at Kaiser and look

449
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: at him and say they were dead?

450
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: Even what were they watching? Now, I've been told from people.

451
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 4: Who are practiced that it was a lot closer than

452
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: what it looked like in that particular game, but it

453
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: sure looked like a big difference to me.

454
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Kelly was in a bad spot, to

455
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 1: be honest, and I'm not sure despite the fact that

456
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: he tried to project confidence at the start of last season,

457
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he was ever in a position where

458
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: he fully felt comfortable with what he was doing. I

459
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: think he liked personally both quarterbacks a lot, and both

460
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks had that leadership mentality, that that X factor that

461
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: you need to play quarterback at a high level. And

462
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: so for that reason, I'm not going to say the

463
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: locker room was split, but you had guys that could

464
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: fall really on either side of the fence.

465
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing I think there was. There were

466
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 4: definitely some some zayre guys, and so.

467
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 2: He had to get a chance. And also, if you're

468
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 2: a coach, you don't want to you don't want.

469
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 4: To Wally pip one of your players, right, you know,

470
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: it's not Zaya your's fault.

471
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: He got hurt.

472
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: So I don't disagree with Kelly making sure he had

473
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 4: a chance to show what he could do in a game.

474
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 4: But it's one of those things where you know, you

475
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: look back on it now and you're like, well, if

476
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: they'd erepped Heiser with the ones the entire offseason, Yeah,

477
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: how different might that have turned out?

478
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't change how bad the defense.

479
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't change how bad the defense was. But I

480
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: think you're right to the extent that if Kaiser had

481
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: gotten all the first team reps, it might have been

482
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different story just by virtue

483
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: of the fact that he tried to use both of

484
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: them to integrate them into the same system. Combined with

485
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: the fact that there was some turnover at wide receiver,

486
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: it was just too much for them to bear on offense.

487
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll see the zi era, as we've called

488
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: it here on the podcast, is now coming to Gainesville.

489
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 4: I do like to needle the Florida fans in my

490
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 4: general vicinity by telling them that my prediction is Luke

491
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 4: del Rio will start.

492
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: The first game.

493
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 4: He is coming back from shoulder surgery, so right, that

494
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 4: is a possibility, But now I think I it's going

495
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 4: to be Zayra Franks.

496
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: Well, I did notice that one of your colleagues at SI,

497
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: Brian Hamilton, put out a way too early top twenty five,

498
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: and I you know, you have a tendency to look

499
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: at these things in the very very very again deep

500
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: duldrums of the offseason.

501
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: Or entertainment purposes.

502
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: Only right, for entertainment purposes, only you can look at

503
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: them and say that team's too high, that team's too low.

504
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: So I want to go through this and see if

505
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: you had any any snap judgments based on what we're seeing.

506
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: His top five is Alabama, Florida State, USC, Ohio State,

507
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: and Penn State. Now, I have been as a Penn

508
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: State alum, and perhaps to my detriment, very very leary

509
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: about fully buying into the Trace mcsorly thing.

510
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm fine with Trace mcsorly.

511
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 4: I just be cautious because they caught some breaks down

512
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 4: the stretch last year. Sometimes you don't catch those breaks

513
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 4: even if you have a better team, and that they

514
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 4: may actually be better this year than they were last year,

515
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 4: but it may not fall the same way.

516
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: People have asked me, Andy, why are you so leary

517
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: on mcsorly. I can't describe it. It's a gut thing.

518
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: I have no real rational reason.

519
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: To die think he's doing so much fun.

520
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: That's but yes, he part of the reason why he's

521
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: so much fun is you do feel like he's kind

522
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: of teetering on the edge a lot of the time,

523
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 4: that he is very confident in his ability to get

524
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: the ball in there, and you know they're going to

525
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 4: be there's gonna be one one day, one Saturday.

526
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: It just doesn't quite do that.

527
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: It feels like he's got a seven interception game in

528
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: him all the time.

529
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: That's yeah, exactly.

530
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: But that's what makes it so much fun, because when

531
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: it goes through the defender's hands and into a receiver's hands, you're.

532
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: Like, oh, how did he do that?

533
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a blast to watch, so I am. And

534
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 4: also I like Joe Moorehead's offense, but you know, it's weird.

535
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: I did a story in twenty fifteen about a player

536
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: that Moreheaded coached at Fordham who wound up starting a.

537
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: Right tackle at Florida just because they needed somebody.

538
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 4: And so I got to watch a lot of that

539
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 4: that Fordham offense and I talked to Morehead about it

540
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: when he was the head coach at Fordham, and Wow,

541
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 4: this thing is super efficient and really keeps defenses guessing.

542
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: And and then you saw it in action in the

543
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: Big Ten last year and guess what it translates?

544
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: Very well.

545
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to see what they can do. I'm

546
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: a little bit leary about Mick Sorely. We'll see what

547
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: happens now that Godwin has moved on to Tampa Bay,

548
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: but certainly they'll be one of the more interesting and

549
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: fun teams to one end.

550
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 4: State always has some sort of freaky body control receiver though, Yeah,

551
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: there's always some guy who's like six to one who

552
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: wins every fifty to fifty ball that for whatever reason

553
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: can just hang in the air and catch everything.

554
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: I don't know where.

555
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: You know, there's a pipeline where it's sort of like

556
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: the same assembly line where Alabama makes the coke machine

557
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: sized running backs.

558
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: Penn State's got that.

559
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: One going well. As you know. Penn State played USC

560
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: and the Rose Bowl, and USC is the team I

561
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: think in this top five that I'm most interested to

562
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: get your read on Alabama and FSU. We know they'll

563
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: be loaded. Ohio State seems to just reload year in

564
00:28:59,680 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: a year.

565
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: In pennsall line is going to be really good this year.

566
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, But USC to me is always the interesting one

567
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: because there's always this preseason hype. We saw it last year.

568
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: It obviously didn't pan out in the first half of

569
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: the season, but then they made the transition over to

570
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and things really took flight. Now we're in

571
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: this position where people are talking up Donald as the

572
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Heisman front runner, potentially the first overall pick, and Brian

573
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: Hamilton there has them at number three. Is that too

574
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: high for a USC team?

575
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: It's fine, I mean, that's the thing I don't know.

576
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're going to do.

577
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: They could they could just ride the way that they

578
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: were riding last season. They're the most physically talented team

579
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: in the Pac twelve, so they should be able to

580
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: beat everybody in the Pac twelve the way I mean

581
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: the way they beat Washington, and Washington was a really

582
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: good team. That that is the sign of a talented roster.

583
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: You know, USC still has better players than most of

584
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: the teams they play, and before it was a case

585
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: where they just weren't getting enough out of those players.

586
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: But it seems like Helton once he switched to Darnald,

587
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: I mean that that was kind of the original sin

588
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: that cost them a lot last season. But now that

589
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: that's corrected, he seems to be able to get quite

590
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: a bit out of the talent he has. They don't

591
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: seem to underachieve physically with him, so I'm fine with

592
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: him being ranked that high.

593
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: My question is, if you don't have them in the

594
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: top five, where do you have them, Because as I

595
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: look at the rest of this again way too early

596
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: for entertainment purposes, only top twenty five, I don't know

597
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: how much further down you could put USC no, I

598
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: mean ridiculous.

599
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: I'm going to rank them higher than anybody else in

600
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: Pact twelve, mostly because of the honestly, mostly because of

601
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: the way.

602
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: They beat Washington last year. I think.

603
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: I think Washington is also going to be really good.

604
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: I know they lost a lot of their secondary and

605
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 4: they lost John Ross, but they're still going to be

606
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: very good.

607
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: And USC Clopbard that very good team on the road.

608
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: The next group of five teams that he's got here,

609
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: not group of five, but the next tier of freight

610
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: teams six through ten is Clemson, Oklahoma. Obviously we've talked

611
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: a lot about Oklahoma this show, Washington, Oklahoma State, and Auburn.

612
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: The two that are of most interest to me are

613
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: Clemson and Auburn.

614
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

615
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Both presumably have new starting quarterbacks, right.

616
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: Yep, Well yeah they will.

617
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: And I'm more confident in Clemson than I am in Auburn.

618
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: I think Dabo's got it now where they're a machine,

619
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: just like Florida State's machine, like Ohio States and machine

620
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: like Alabama's a machine.

621
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: They're just going to keep that going.

622
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: Auburn, I don't know yet, I you know, I don't

623
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: know about the Jared Sidham hype.

624
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: I know he's got a great arm.

625
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 4: I know he was fantastic in the time he did

626
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: play as a freshman at Baylor, but he got hurt

627
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: for quickly. He's going to get hit a lot in

628
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: the SEC, even if they have a pretty good offensive line.

629
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 2: So, and this is you know with Gus.

630
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: Remember he hasn't had a successful SEC offense that didn't

631
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: involve a quarterback who could run. Now, he's had good

632
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: offenses in the past when he was at Tulsa and

633
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: then you go back to his Springdale High days where

634
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: it was more of a drop back passer guy, and

635
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: he did some really creative stuff with him and just

636
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: mess with defensive heads. But look at who they've been

637
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: successful with in the time he's either been offense coordinator,

638
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: head coach at Auburn, Cam Newton and Nick Marshall.

639
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: Right, Jared didn't have done run like either one of

640
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: those guys.

641
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't.

642
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: So now I do think their running game is going

643
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: to be good. I think they're lying and their stable

644
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: of backs is good enough that you don't necessarinsarily need

645
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 4: that big of a threat of a quarterback run to

646
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: be able to move the ball. I'm more concerned actually

647
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: with them on defense, just because they lost some really

648
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 4: good players. You know, Montrevius Adams was outstanding for al

649
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: Austin was really good. They had kind of it built

650
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: up to last year on defense. They needed needed some

651
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: time to get where they were going, and that that.

652
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: Defense kept them in a lot of games last year.

653
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: So if it takes a step back, then that's just

654
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: even more the offense has to make up.

655
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Speaker 1: I'm supremely curious about what happens with the Auburn at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere in the pit of my stomach, Andy, I feel

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Speaker 1: like there's an over under three and a half games

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Speaker 1: that Sean White is still going to play quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Oh I, I think that's a pretty good bet because

660
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Speaker 4: Stidham's gonna get hit, you know, and we don't know

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Speaker 4: what the if the injury at Baylor's freshman year, if

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Speaker 4: that was a fluky.

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Speaker 2: Thing or if that was just he got injured.

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Speaker 4: A bunch of players is at Baylor because they were

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Speaker 4: running him a lot even though they knew there wasn't

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Speaker 4: much behind him.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think Gus is going to run him

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Speaker 2: that much.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I'm looking at the final three tiers

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Speaker 1: here that Brian put together. Here are the three teams

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Speaker 1: that I think I'm most interested in getting your take

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Speaker 1: on LSU, Michigan and Tennessee, all for different reasons. LSU

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Speaker 1: obviously is trying to transition to a different offensive system.

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Speaker 1: Offense has been an issue for them for a while,

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Speaker 1: Michigan because they're rebooting at a bunch of key positions

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Speaker 1: and they lose a ton and Tennessee because it's growing

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Speaker 1: increasingly more obvious that Butch Jones is on somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a hot seat.

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Speaker 4: So LSU was interesting because you look at what Matt

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Speaker 4: Canada did walking into Pittsburgh last year with no assistance

681
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Speaker 4: coming with him by the way, by himself, and that

682
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Speaker 4: offense was unstoppable at times with Nathan Peterman at quarterback,

683
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Speaker 4: who you know he'd done all right, and Jim Cheney

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Speaker 4: system the year before, but the people who remember him

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Speaker 4: from Tennessee will remember that he didn't play very well there.

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Speaker 2: So I think Matt Canada, if he can get.

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Speaker 4: LSU distributing the ball to its playmakers, can make that offense.

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Speaker 4: And the thing about is LSU has as many good

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Speaker 4: athletes on offense as they have on defense. You just

690
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Speaker 4: wouldn't know it because Les Miles would pick whoever the

691
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Speaker 4: best tailback was and just ride him relentlessly and not

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Speaker 4: worry about anybody else. That's why he got fired. So

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Speaker 4: ed oars Ron didn't change anything. On defense, Dave Ryan

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Speaker 4: is still running the show. Hired a guy who will

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Speaker 4: distribute the ball, and my guess is if Danny Etling

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Speaker 4: distributes it accurately, they're going to be very hard to stop.

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Speaker 1: Between Michigan and Tennessee, Andy, which of those those two

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Speaker 1: teams are you most interested in? Which do you think

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Speaker 1: has I don't know, I guess the most intrigue As

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Speaker 1: we head into the season, I.

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Speaker 4: Feel like Tennessee has a lot bigger space between the

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Speaker 4: floor and the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the floor.

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Speaker 4: Is Busch Jones gets fired the ceiling as they win

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Speaker 4: the East. So and I think they should be better

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Speaker 4: on defense because I can't imagine a team having worse

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Speaker 4: injury luck on one side of the all than than

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Speaker 4: Tennessee's defense did last year. And then offensively, we'll see,

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Speaker 4: But dorn Tino and Dormandy, I think there's some other

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Speaker 4: SEC schools that would like to have either one of

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Speaker 4: those guys. So it's a pretty good choice that the

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Speaker 4: Bush has to make a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I love Kellie at running back.

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Speaker 4: That dude runs so violently, and so I think, and

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Speaker 4: this this should be the best offensive line they've had

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Speaker 4: in the Butch Jones era.

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Speaker 2: So I don't.

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Speaker 4: I am not automatically writing them off and firing Butch Jones.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are.

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Speaker 4: I want to see him play. They got a pretty

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Speaker 4: tough September. We'll know what they are after September. Michigan's

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Speaker 4: interesting because we don't know what they're going to be yet.

723
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Speaker 4: And I keep telling everybody that Michigan Florida game, Maybe

724
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Speaker 4: a lot of people who make definitive proclamations after that game,

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Speaker 4: that game's not gonna tell us anything because we don't

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Speaker 4: know what either of those teams will be. So that's

727
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Speaker 4: one of those that we could be watching two good teams,

728
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Speaker 4: we could be watching two mediocre teams. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: here's the thing. Other than that first year at Stanford

730
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Speaker 4: and even then they beat USC, Jim Harbaugh's never coached

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Speaker 4: a bad team, and I'm including his time in the

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Speaker 4: NFL very true, So they're not going to take that

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Speaker 4: big of a step back. Plus now you're getting players

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Speaker 4: that they recruited getting developed. And I know Brady Hope

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Speaker 4: recruited some good players that Harbor then subsequently developed. But

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Speaker 4: if you look go back to Harbat Stanford, he's seriously

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Speaker 4: upgraded at roster.

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Speaker 2: He's a good recruiter.

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Speaker 4: So my guess is by the middle of the season,

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Speaker 4: that's a pretty pretty solid team.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw one other team in here, and then I

742
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Speaker 1: want to move on to a different topic altogether. But

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Speaker 1: Texas obviously the news new head football coach Tom Herman.

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Speaker 1: Not all rebuilds, as you know, are created equally. How

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Speaker 1: big of a rebuild is it at Texas is not.

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Speaker 4: Nearly as big as when Charlie Strong took over. To

747
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Speaker 4: put it in perspective, Charlie Strong inherited a better roster

748
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Speaker 4: this year at USF Romilly Taggert than he inherited from.

749
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Speaker 2: Mac Brown when he got to Texas.

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Speaker 4: So I mean that tells you and Tom Herman inherited

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Speaker 4: a big twelve roster. Now there are some holes, there

752
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Speaker 4: are some problem areas, but he's got big twelve talent.

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Speaker 4: He's got what he needs to be successful, and then

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Speaker 4: he can obviously recruit on top of that. But my

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Speaker 4: question is, how do you change the attitude? You know,

756
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Speaker 4: when they got to Houston, that was a team that

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Speaker 4: was coming off an eight win season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So now Tom has told me that he actually felt

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Speaker 4: like it was more resistance at Houston because guys were

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Speaker 4: in the mindset of, hey, we weren't awful, why are

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Speaker 4: you coming in trying to change everything. At Texas, it

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Speaker 4: was more like, we know we were bad. We lost

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Speaker 4: seven games three years in a row. By all means

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Speaker 4: change whatever you want. We'll do whatever you want. So

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Speaker 4: we'll see how that goes. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 4: they're mentally where he wants them to be, and probably

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Speaker 4: won't be this season, but he squeezed an awful lot

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Speaker 4: out of those Houston guys that first year, and I

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Speaker 4: would bet that there's going to be some pretty dramatic

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Speaker 4: improvement in terms of record at Texas.

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Speaker 1: I will post the link to Brian's again way too

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Speaker 1: early for entertainment purposes, only top twenty five in the

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Speaker 1: description for this podcast, so feel free to go on

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Speaker 1: to the site celiverble dot com let us know what

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Speaker 1: you think of Who's too high, Who's too low? Again,

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Speaker 1: very very early. Don't take it with more than a

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Speaker 1: grain of salt, but just food for thought here as

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Speaker 1: we try to get some college football in the diet

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that there's not really a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of other stuff going on. The one thing that I

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Speaker 1: did want to bring up with you as we sort

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Speaker 1: of wind it down here, and I know this is

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Speaker 1: something that we discussed before, but I made what I

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Speaker 1: consider a pretty big life decision and I cut the court.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, enjoy the buffering. Yeah, well, it's been good to

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Speaker 4: be seconds behind. It's been good so far. YouTube live

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Speaker 4: YouTube TV live has has been my choice, and it

789
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Speaker 4: doesn't seem like there's been too much of a delay.

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Speaker 4: But this is something that's accelerating.

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Speaker 1: And I know we've talked about it on our show

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Speaker 1: at some point here with you about how that all

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Speaker 1: found actors into the economics of college football, howe how

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Speaker 1: that affects the viewing experience, how that affects just the

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Speaker 1: general perception of what college football is. It's obviously not

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Speaker 1: something that is slowing down. And I'm curious just to

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Speaker 1: kind of get your big picture perspective about where you

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Speaker 1: see all of this driving college football, because it does

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Speaker 1: drive college football at some point in the next five

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Speaker 1: to ten years.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the commissioners and the ads are all

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Speaker 4: praying that Amazon or.

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Speaker 2: Google or Apple or.

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Speaker 4: Netflix or somebody jumps in so they'll pay they can

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Speaker 4: get paid what they're being paid now. I don't think

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Speaker 4: anybody's even looking for increases on their next.

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Speaker 2: Deal just to bility. I think they they'd be happy

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Speaker 2: to get paid what they get paid now. And the assumption.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because the assumption is that because because Google

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Speaker 4: is the biggest company on well I don't know if

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Speaker 4: Apple or Google's the bigest company on Earth.

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Speaker 2: But whatever, whatever they.

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Speaker 4: Pay, whatever ESPN pays these conferences would be a rounding

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Speaker 4: error for these other companies we're talking about. Sure, but

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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean they're going to overspend. It's it's sort

816
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Speaker 4: of like the episode of The Simpsons where Homer starts

817
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Speaker 4: the Internet company and Bill Gates comes to buy him

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Speaker 4: out with a bunch of baseball bats, right, and I

819
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Speaker 4: didn't get rich right in checks. So they're going to

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Speaker 4: pay market value, whatever that is. And with ESPN's revenue

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Speaker 4: going down because of cord cutters like yourself, and their

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Speaker 4: overhead going up because the NFL wants what it wants

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Speaker 4: the NBA is gonna get three billion dollars a year,

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Speaker 4: because that's what the deal is. I don't I mean,

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Speaker 4: somebody might pay what they're paying now, but I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure anything goes up dramatically. But as far as the

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Speaker 4: Internet part of it goes I think by twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: four twenty twenty five, when these rights deals come up,

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Speaker 4: I think most people will have access to.

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Speaker 2: Some pretty fast Internet.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that the picture coming in will look

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Speaker 4: dramatically different. I think the buffering will probably be gone.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think about what my internet service looked

834
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Speaker 4: like six or seven years ago and what it looks

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Speaker 4: like now. I just just moved into a new house

836
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Speaker 4: on Saturday, and this is the first time I've had

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Speaker 4: the gigabit Internet available to me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, welcome, and it is the twenty first century Andy.

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Speaker 2: It is ridiculously fast.

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Speaker 4: I have no worries about streaming anything. So that and

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Speaker 4: the other part of it is every you know, there

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Speaker 4: are people who are usually tied financially in somebody to

843
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Speaker 4: the cable industry will tell you, oh, yeah, enjoy being

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Speaker 4: forty five seconds behind, which is joke I made a

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Speaker 4: few minutes ago. But if everybody's streaming it, nobody's really

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Speaker 4: behind because you don't know what just happened in the

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Speaker 4: stadium unless I guess, unless you're reading tweets from the stadium.

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Speaker 4: But that happens on TV too, because I've I've been

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Speaker 4: covering games live and tweeted something and people like stop

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Speaker 4: that it's like ten seconds.

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Speaker 2: Ahead of my TV.

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Speaker 4: So if everybody's in the same boat, I don't think

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Speaker 4: it's going to be that bad of a user experience.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it will either. They've already made strides

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Speaker 1: to reduce that lag time, and that, to me is

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Speaker 1: the least of my concerns. That said, I haven't watched

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Speaker 1: a college football season.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was watching people tweet.

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Speaker 4: I was watching Chord Cutter New Chord Cutters, like our

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Speaker 4: friend Stuart Mandel tweeting the NBA Finals the other night,

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Speaker 4: and they were consistently about forty five seconds behind, and

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Speaker 4: they were complaining about it.

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Speaker 2: But I still think.

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Speaker 4: If everybody's watching it on Amazon Prime, I don't think

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Speaker 4: you get that well.

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Speaker 1: And also, the crowd on Twitter does not represent the

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Speaker 1: bulk of the people, right, that's any sporting event, it's audience,

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Speaker 1: right that that is following along on tweet deck or what.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: I think we're not that far off from a time

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Speaker 4: where the cable and satellite companies are not the behemoth

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Speaker 4: they are now.

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Speaker 1: It's just really interesting to me because it's more accessible

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Speaker 1: now than ever. It's obviously had an effect on some

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Speaker 1: of the major networks, and like you said twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: when it comes time again to take some of these

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Speaker 1: rights out and get bids, I think places like the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve or Big twelve whoever, will be a lot

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Speaker 1: less anxious about giving Google a spin, giving Amazon spin.

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Speaker 4: No, if Google or Amazon, if Google or Amazon wants

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Speaker 4: to do business with them, they will crawl on hands

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Speaker 4: and knees to Google and Amazon. Watch this Amazon NFL experiment.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting. So they're not paying a

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Speaker 4: ton for it because it's it's basically they're streaming games

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Speaker 4: that are already on television. But what they're trying to

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Speaker 4: find out is how sports fans watching a streaming event

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Speaker 4: on their surface behave. Because the one thing Amazon can

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Speaker 4: do that your TV can't do is if you see

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Speaker 4: a commercial on an Amazon Prime broadcast of a football

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Speaker 4: game and you like the product, you can click and

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Speaker 4: buy the product and it'll be in your door the

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Speaker 4: next day so or, depending on how big a city

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Speaker 4: you're in, might be at your house in two hours.

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Speaker 2: So if they find that it drives sales.

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Speaker 4: And here's the thing I found interesting is the Amazon

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Speaker 4: research a few years ago showed that Prime members tend

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Speaker 4: to spend fifteen hundred.

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Speaker 2: Dollars more per year on Amazon than non Prime members.

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Speaker 4: Well, if being a Prime member is the only way

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Speaker 4: to see Big ten football, guess how many more Amazon

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Speaker 4: Prime members they're going to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My big predict for streaming TV as it relates

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Speaker 1: to Amazon and Google is that they're the only two

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Speaker 1: companies that can somewhat harvest what you're doing when you

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Speaker 1: go out on the web and just do whatever, and

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Speaker 1: ultimately they can subsidize more programming with higher ad rates.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Apple won't do it unless it drives device sales.

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Speaker 4: Netflix will create its own X games type shorting events.

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Speaker 4: They already did it with this weird one weird obstacle

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Speaker 4: course game that my kids got it into and we

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Speaker 4: binge watched it. But it's not that I don't see

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Speaker 4: Netflix ever getting in a live sports so I don't

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Speaker 4: see what's in it for them.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's an interesting discussion and I'm curious to see

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Speaker 1: how it goes. But I will certainly report back throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. Hopefully I'm not on a

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Speaker 1: forty five second delay.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing is, stay off Twitter. You don't

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Speaker 2: even know you.

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Speaker 1: Are, and staying off Twitter is a good life decision,

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Speaker 1: by the way.

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Speaker 2: Just f one pretty much.

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Speaker 1: All right, What is on tap for you over the

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Speaker 1: next couple of months now as we sort of slowly

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Speaker 1: build towards the twenty seventeen season.

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Speaker 4: Well, hopefully for the next two and a half weeks nothing.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully this will be the one time I come off vacation.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm still doing radio shows, so I'm not good

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Speaker 4: at taking time off, but I am off all of

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Speaker 4: next week for real. So hopefully it will just be

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Speaker 4: me and a beach and something with alcoholing it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I hope for.

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Speaker 4: And then once Meetia days and all that get cranked up,

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Speaker 4: it's just right back into it. You know, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have some fun, a lot more food stuff,

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Speaker 4: I think this year, So it'll be an interesting season

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Speaker 4: to be sure.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Well, we will talk to you again sometime

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Speaker 1: soon and in the meantime, best of luck with all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Hopefully you get that drink on the beach,

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Speaker 1: just the one all right again. It's Andy Staples from

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Speaker 1: SI dot com Sports Illustrated and Serious XM. Check him out,

944
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: drop him a line. He is on Twitter at Andy

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Speaker 1: Underscore Staples. My name is ty Hildebrand. Dan Rubenstein will

946
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Speaker 1: be back with us next week. In the meantime. For

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Speaker 1: that guy over there, where are you, Andy, Florida, Gainesville, Florida,

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Speaker 1: For that guy over there in Gainesville, for myself, Tie

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Speaker 1: hearing gooddle Downtown, PA. Thanks again for listening, Thanks again

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