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Speaker 1: It's now officially open. This is Draft Season, Part two

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Speaker 1: of our draft review. John Schmelke, Tony Pauline with you.

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Speaker 1: We looked at the NFC on part one yesterday. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you're two days ago. Whatever it gets posted, I

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Speaker 1: dot com. A lot of interesting stuff in the AFC, Tony,

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Speaker 1: some quarterback controversy. We'll talk about all of that and

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Speaker 1: more right here in the Hackensack and Meridian Health podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: Keep getting better, all right, Tony. AFC West good place

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Speaker 1: to start. Absolutely, let's do it all right, Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: They have seven picks, Tony. I'm gonna list all the picks, folks.

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Speaker 1: Tony's gonna pick out some of the featured players in

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Speaker 1: the group that he thinks are important. That really makes

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Speaker 1: a statement about the draft class, all right. J Da Baron,

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Speaker 1: quarterback out of Texas at pick twenty. My guy R. J.

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Speaker 1: Harvey got into the second round pick sixty. Next Alvin

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Speaker 1: Kamara for Sean Payne right there. Look at Pat Bryant.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a little bit early. At seventy

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Speaker 1: four out of Illinois. I thought some better wide receivers

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Speaker 1: stole on the board. I think they picked him over

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Speaker 1: Jalen Knowle, which I thought was crazy. Savion Jones, a

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Speaker 1: really good pass rusher on the defensive line, would pick

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Speaker 1: one on one. Ke Robinson, a super athletic edge player

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Speaker 1: that was a special team's ace at pick four. He

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Speaker 1: has some promise. Punter punters are people too, Jeremy kra

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Speaker 1: Crushaw out of Florida, and then tight end Caleb Lohner

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Speaker 1: out of Utah. Tony. I thought Denver got some really

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Speaker 1: good value early.

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Speaker 2: This is probably my least favorite draft. Okay, why a

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Speaker 2: couple of reasons. Number one John Day Barron in round one. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but there were receivers available to him, and Omarion Hampton

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Speaker 2: was available to him, and they you know, I know

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Speaker 1: You don't need Omaron Hampton when you can get r J.

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Speaker 2: Harvey Tony know again, Harvey, I thought he would a

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Speaker 2: little bit early. I know you like him fast, He's explosive,

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Speaker 2: Pap Ryan, I would agree with you. Early Savvian Jones

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Speaker 2: was early a lot of earlier Hugh Robinson in the

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Speaker 2: fourth round. Hugh Robinson's production is awful. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a size, speed guy. He was mostly a special

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Speaker 2: teams player now without it because he could never produce

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Speaker 2: on the field. Right, I mean you heard that a

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Speaker 2: guy like that in the fourth round. Again, I can't

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Speaker 2: kill it, but I think they they selected guys two

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sean Payton's modus operande. Right, he finds

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Speaker 1: guys that he likes. Be damn what the rest of

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Speaker 1: the leaf thinks about them?

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Speaker 2: Oh Knicks last year?

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Speaker 1: Right, Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: this draft class looks like in a few years. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the Kansas City Chiefs, Tony. This might

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Speaker 1: be my favorite draft class. I think it's just really strong.

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Speaker 1: They get Josh Simmons, who, if he's healthy, is probably

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Speaker 1: the best offensive tackle on the class. At pick thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Omar Norman lott Man put him with Chris Jones in

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Speaker 1: passing situations inside a defensive tackle who ast Ashton July

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Speaker 1: That was a third round pick. No Williams their second

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Speaker 1: third round. They're you're a big fan of his cornerback

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Speaker 1: out of Utah State in round number four. Jeffrey Bossa,

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Speaker 1: to around seven. The Chiefs loves to put receiving backs

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Speaker 2: took him out. The Chiefs prove me to be the fool.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. Omar Norman Lott one of

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Speaker 1: Board, no question about it. And again, I just think

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Speaker 1: let's go to the Raiders. I believe I saw someone

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Speaker 1: say this is the largest draft class in Raiders history

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Speaker 1: Ashton genty at sixth overall, he falls right into their laps. Guys, debt,

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Speaker 1: taxes and Pete Carroll picking running backs. Baby, he got

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Speaker 1: the best one in the draft to pick number six,

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Speaker 1: Dante Thorne, one of your guys, Tony in round for

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Speaker 2: Think they did a good job. I mean they've got

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Speaker 2: He's an athletic blocker with upside. Ashton Empty. We beat

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Speaker 2: that horse to death. You know why, terrific player. I

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Speaker 2: right before the draft, there's a problem with Christian Wilkins foot.

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Speaker 2: He may need another procedure. They added two potential pass

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Los Angeles Chargers. Tony

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Speaker 1: Naja Harris. Good pick. If you guys are picking rookie

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Speaker 1: fantasy players this year, he should be your guy, right

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Speaker 1: after Ashton Genty. Trey Harris round two, pick fifty five,

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Speaker 1: a good contrast to what they have a Ladd McConkie,

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Speaker 1: Canarden round four to South Calina was a nice value pick.

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Speaker 1: Good football player. KeAndre Lambert Smith that of Auburn and

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Speaker 1: never ceased. I was not familiar with the player. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Seventh round cornerback out of Florida.

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Speaker 2: Hampton will be their feature ball carrier moving forward. Fits

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Speaker 2: the Harboys system. Trey Harris, solid pass ketchup. Surprise you

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Speaker 2: went in the second round. KeAndre Lambert Smith I thought

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Speaker 2: the Oregon Ducks that day, had a great game against

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, again, I think I think the AFC West had

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Speaker 1: had some nice drafts. And again I'm with you, Tony.

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Speaker 1: I think it was hard to find. And we talked

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Speaker 1: find a jass. You're really Scratuated's like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what that team was doing. There were so many good

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Speaker 1: teams that always do a nice job in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens had eleven selections in this draft. Let's go

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Speaker 1: through him real quick, Tony, and then you can break

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Speaker 1: him down in the AFC North Malki starks at twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: he'll go with Kyle Hamilton. Mike Green dropped all the

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Speaker 1: since the Ravens drafted him, he's gonna be sqeaky clean

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bchatten, the linebacker out of Garden. Round four, Carson Vincent,

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Speaker 2: Filled with a lot of holes here. I think Malachi

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Speaker 2: Terrific free safety. You go sideline to solid line. Mike Green,

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Speaker 2: some upside. I like the Teddy Buchanan pick. I think

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Speaker 2: He's a diningback, special teams player with return potential.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. All right, Let's jump over to

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. Tony just six picks for them, They

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Speaker 1: Doing Fairchriald, third round player out of Georgia. You're a

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Speaker 2: In round six, Shamar Stewart. He's a boomer Bus type prospect.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. I think some good players there

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Speaker 1: They get Mason Graham that picked number five. Corson Swesinger,

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback stuff second Tony, because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: the Browns designed to get out of Travis Hunter. Go

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Speaker 1: on the Hunter trade.

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Speaker 2: Well, first thing is it was a hall by the Browns.

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Speaker 2: You know, I like Travis Hunter. He's my number two

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Speaker 2: be an impactful player for the Jaguars, But I don't

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Speaker 2: know he's the type of impact player that you're giving

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Speaker 2: you you're a comment that they should have traded down.

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Speaker 2: I think that the Bears are trying to trade up

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Speaker 2: Browns probably said, you know what, we got another early

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Speaker 2: hell with it, Let's stay with the pick. We're not

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Speaker 2: going to give our selection away to move out of ten.

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Speaker 2: And they got one of the safer players in the draft,

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Speaker 2: Mason Graham. Now, they said that the Browns were looking

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Speaker 2: to improve their pass rush, and they just did. From

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Speaker 2: with the first pick a round two after jahadd Campbell.

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Speaker 2: The best off ball linebacker in this draft. The only

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Speaker 2: thing is Carson Swetzinger answers his rookie season without injury questions,

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Speaker 2: quin Shawn Jenkins Dylan Sampson one two punches right on.

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Speaker 2: I mean Quinshawn Jenkins, as we saw sparingly during the

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Speaker 2: agree agree with you about Fannon. I thought Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 2: in the third round, in my opinion, it was interesting.

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Speaker 2: It was way early for a guy that they want

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Speaker 2: then Shador Sanders. We'll see what happens with that choice.

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Speaker 1: All right, give me your perspective as someone that has

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Speaker 1: You've seen how he's been talked about, what happened to

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Speaker 1: him on draft night. Break it down, Tony, give me

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Speaker 1: the inside scoop. You talk to more people than anyone.

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Speaker 1: How did this whole thing go down? Why did he

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Speaker 2: There's not one single reason, and I mean all these

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Speaker 2: So coming into the season, he wasn't even viewed by

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Speaker 2: round prospect. Now, quarterbacks are or as we've seen time

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. It wasn't much better than it was in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. We saw a lot of the same mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Shrine Ball. Everyone's excited. He comes out one day in street, closed,

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Speaker 2: Never threw a pass, never threw a pass, and never

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Speaker 2: as we learned at the Shrine Bowl, cam Ward was

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Speaker 2: So you know that Door Sanders really should have have,

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Speaker 1: He also didn't play either of the All Star games.

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Speaker 2: You know, he just walked across the field. And you

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Speaker 2: as somebody said to me, when you draft Shador, you're

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Speaker 2: I completely understand that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think Dion did anything wrong either,

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Speaker 2: That it's not it's not that he did anything wrong,

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Speaker 2: it's what's going to happen in the future. Babie pulpit

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Speaker 2: you know, should your son be playing shuit And Dion,

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Speaker 2: being as outspoken as he did, would be open to

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Speaker 2: that stress, with with that potential, you know, because once

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Speaker 1: And I think to Tony, the way the media talked

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Speaker 1: were worried about too. And we had a caller that

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Speaker 1: called up to one of our shows, James and George

426
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Speaker 1: is a good caller, and he said, well, you know

427
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Speaker 1: should stand. Why don't the Giants take him right with

428
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Speaker 1: like their fourth round pick or something like that. And

429
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Speaker 1: the point I made was that with him at the

430
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Speaker 1: quarterback position, one specifically, but then with should or specifically,

431
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Speaker 1: once he's in the building, he's gonna suck all the

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Speaker 1: oxygen out of the room. And it's not again, not

433
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Speaker 1: his fault, not his fault, but the media will make

434
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Speaker 1: him the bigger story and every time something goes wrong,

435
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a huge press conference under his life.

436
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: As the backup quarterback, he's gonna have to be perfect

437
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Speaker 1: in what he says because the attention is gonna be there.

438
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Speaker 1: And while a team, and you made this point with

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Speaker 1: the Browns, they're very comfortable with Dylan Gabriel because of

440
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Speaker 1: his personality that he's gonna be a really good backup

441
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Speaker 1: quarterback for a long time. I think they're worried if

442
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Speaker 1: should or Sanders because of again the media attention that

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Speaker 1: he gets, which again is not his fault. It's not

444
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Speaker 1: his fault. He didn't do anything wrong with that in

445
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Speaker 1: that regard. They feel like the distraction part of it

446
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Speaker 1: is gonna be not worth what you're gonna get out

447
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Speaker 1: of a guy who maybe you either view as a

448
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Speaker 1: backup or I view as a guy that might develop.

449
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Speaker 1: If you're not gonna pick him as a starter once

450
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Speaker 1: you got past the second round, you're not really picking

451
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Speaker 1: guys of starting quarterbacks anymore. You're picking guys as developmental quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: The media coverage was just not the past three days.

453
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Speaker 2: I mean it was the past three months. I'm in

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Speaker 2: the gym every morning they have ESPN on and it

455
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Speaker 2: was constantly, well should or Sander's got or it was NonStop.

456
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Speaker 1: Wellsian is this cow? Lakers? Should or Sanders? And those

457
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Speaker 1: are the three topics every time.

458
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Speaker 2: And the thing is, you know, the name is what

459
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Speaker 2: drew the media to the NonStop coverage. I had said

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Speaker 2: if his name was John Schmelch or Tony Pauline, they

461
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Speaker 2: wouldn't care. Charles Davis, who is one of my favorite

462
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Speaker 2: football analysts. I watched him on Sunday. I was like,

463
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Speaker 2: this guy should be a lead analyst in a primetime game.

464
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Speaker 1: Is and he is going to be in college football

465
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Speaker 1: starting in two years, which will be fun.

466
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Speaker 2: He's one of the nicest guys in the world. We've

467
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Speaker 2: ever met him. You wish he was one of your relatives.

468
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Speaker 2: He basically echoed that on NFL Network, and he kind

469
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Speaker 2: of compared what happened to Shador Sanders to Sam Howell.

470
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Speaker 2: Sam Howell, the former North Carolina quarterback. At one point

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Speaker 2: in time, we all thought, coming off the twenty twenty season,

472
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Speaker 2: potential top ten pick did not play well in twenty

473
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Speaker 2: twenty one ended up people thought Day two pick. He

474
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Speaker 2: landed in the fifth round, and Charles Davis said, no

475
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Speaker 2: one paid attention to this percipit of shop down draft

476
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Speaker 2: boards because his name was Sam. Everybody paid attention to

477
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Speaker 2: it because it was Shadoor Sanders. And and here's the

478
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Speaker 2: thing with the here's the difference between you know, you

479
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Speaker 2: said everything's gonna be on all the folks gonna be

480
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Speaker 2: on shudor Sanders. Jackson Dart was a first round pick

481
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Speaker 2: by the New York Giants. The second first round pick.

482
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Speaker 2: No one will pay attention to Jackson Dart because they

483
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Speaker 2: don't expect them to play, and he was the second

484
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Speaker 2: first round pick. Everyone's gonna pay attention to have Bill Carter.

485
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Speaker 2: Even though Shadoor Sanders was a fifth round pick in

486
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Speaker 2: Cleveland and he was the second quarterback taken.

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Speaker 1: You know, he'll get more attention than Jackson Dart.

488
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Speaker 2: Will you probably get more attention than the than the

489
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Speaker 2: Browns first round pick. Mason Graham.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 2: It's around ending and you're right, should Door Sanders They

492
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Speaker 2: made mistakes through the pre draft process. I think they

493
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Speaker 2: should have been more open to throwing at the shrine ball,

494
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Speaker 2: throwing at the combine and things like that. But like

495
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Speaker 2: I said, they didn't have an agent to help them

496
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Speaker 2: navigate the waters. That was their choice. But again, you know,

497
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Speaker 2: all all these media are just going to continually to

498
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Speaker 2: draw out to him. All these these conspiracies were absurd.

499
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Speaker 2: Someone told me earlier in the week, Hey, a source

500
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Speaker 2: the Giants are taking him at three. I was like,

501
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Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. Someone called me right before day three and

502
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Speaker 2: I heard, Hey, the league is gonna make an example

503
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Speaker 2: of him. They're gonna make a mister irrelevant. That was

504
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Speaker 2: equally absurd. We'll see what happens here. It's all in

505
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Speaker 2: his hands now. He's got talent. The one thing about Sanders,

506
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Speaker 2: you know, we picked a part of his game. The

507
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Speaker 2: league likes the fact that he is intelligent, he doesn't

508
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Speaker 2: throw bad intersections. Yeah, he processed tex very well. I

509
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Speaker 2: love the fact that, especially in twenty twenty three, when

510
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Speaker 2: Colorado needed a big drive late in the game, he

511
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Speaker 2: was able to deliver. Give him credit for that. So

512
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Speaker 2: there are a lot of good aspects that you can

513
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Speaker 2: build upon.

514
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Speaker 1: No, he's absolutely a good player. If the Giants would

515
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Speaker 1: have traded up to twenty three and picked suit or Sanders,

516
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Speaker 1: I would have understood that pick. That would have been fine.

517
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Speaker 1: I thought that would have been fine value, the same

518
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Speaker 1: way it was for Jackson. I would have a zero

519
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Speaker 1: problem with that they decide to go with Jackson Darton instead.

520
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Speaker 1: He's a tough player, and I thought he I don't

521
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Speaker 1: know if he listened to Hurt any of his conference

522
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Speaker 1: call with the media after he got drafted with the Browns.

523
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Speaker 1: He sounded like a kid that had been humbled a

524
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Speaker 1: little bit, you know, But he's look all Once I

525
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Speaker 1: walked out of here on after round one on Thursday night,

526
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Speaker 1: and then on Friday night. I you know, so I

527
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Speaker 1: wasn't picked in the second round at that point, I

528
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: just wanted an opportunity and I want to play football.

529
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Speaker 1: I want to get on the grass with these guys

530
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Speaker 1: and I want to compete and earn what I can get.

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna have the opportunity now with the Browns

532
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Speaker 1: in a fairly wide open quarterback room. There's a lot

533
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Speaker 1: of guys in there, but there's no one that's in

534
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Speaker 1: there where you're like, all right, well, this is our

535
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Speaker 1: starter for X number of games or whatever.

536
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Speaker 2: He was gonna have the chancelack Go was there for

537
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Speaker 2: a year. Deshaun Watson's on his way out so.

538
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Speaker 1: And it's the last year of pickets rookie contract too, right.

539
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Speaker 2: I don't think Picket's a factor. I think Pickett was

540
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Speaker 2: a necessity to fill a hole. I don't think people

541
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Speaker 2: really expect too much on Picket. So really, moving forward,

542
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Speaker 2: all he's got to do is beat Dylan Gabriel. And

543
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Speaker 2: he has all the tools to beat Dylan Gabriel.

544
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Speaker 1: Yep. So we'll see if he can do it, and

545
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Speaker 1: I hope he succeeds. All right, let's go to the

546
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. They had seven picks in this draft. Tony

547
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Speaker 1: a very Steelers. He draft Derek Harmon at the great

548
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Speaker 1: value at twenty one, defensive tackle, Caleb Johnson, he'll be

549
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: a nice combination with Warren and running back. And third

550
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Speaker 1: round picking eighty three, I thought that was good value

551
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Speaker 1: for him. Jack Sawyer, a very STEELERSZ player, linebacker out

552
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Speaker 1: of Ohio State. I thought round four was very good

553
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: value for Jack Sawyer. I thought he was a better

554
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Speaker 1: player than that. Yeah, y'all black of some work to do,

555
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: but very big, physical, athletic defensive tackle Will Howard in

556
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Speaker 1: the sixth round of Ohio State at Carson Brunner and

557
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: Dante Kent linebacker and corner in round seven.

558
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Speaker 2: Real good value. I believe in each round. Derek Harmon

559
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: fell because of injuries. And it's not one injury. It's

560
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: a lot of little things that led to his fall.

561
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Speaker 2: People thought he was a top fifteen pick. Fits that

562
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: three man line. Caleb Johnson definitely a Steelers type of back.

563
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer definitely a Steelers type of player who goes NonStop.

564
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: Not the greatest athlete in the world but makes plays.

565
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: Yah y'all black has got tremendous upside. He's just never

566
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: really hit his stride and it's just shown flashes. Will Howard,

567
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: I think was very telling. With the Shudor Sanders issue

568
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: that we just talked about. They take Will Howard over

569
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders and then Carson Brunner. I was shocked he

570
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: went this late. I would be shocked if he doesn't

571
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: make the Steelers roster a tremendous off ball linebacker.

572
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 1: No question about it. All right, let's jump now to

573
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Speaker 1: the AFC South. We'll pick up the pace. We had

574
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Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time on the quarterback thing, guys,

575
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Speaker 1: so we had to do it. I know it's a

576
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Speaker 1: big story. I wanted to get all of Tony's great

577
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: info on it. So we'll put the pedal to the

578
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: metal here on the last four on the last two

579
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: divisions at eight teams. All right, let's go to the

580
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: AFC South. Tony Texans nine picks. They traded out of

581
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Speaker 1: the first as I mentioned, for the Giants to select

582
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart Jayden Higgins at picked thirty four ariante URSII,

583
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: their second second round pick at forty eight. I thought

584
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Speaker 1: that was good, you know, pretty good value for both

585
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: those guys. Love Jalen Nolan picks seventy nine. I had

586
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: him ranked higher than that. I think that was the

587
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: right the zone you had him in Tony in round three.

588
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, cornerback usc It picked ninety seven Wood he

589
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: marks his teammate the running back in one sixteen in

590
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: the fourth round, and then in the six two sixth

591
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: round picks. Two seventh round picks safety Jalen Reed, Penn

592
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: State quarterback Graham Mertz, Florida Keyonty Hamblton defensive tackle rutgers

593
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: In Luke Lache tight end out of Iowa with the

594
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: second seventh round pick.

595
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: The first three picks made this drift for me. Jayden

596
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: Higgins a big bodied possession, a contested catch receiver who

597
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: ran faster than expected. They just got to teach him

598
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: to play to that speed.

599
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: Talk about the size with him and Nico Collins outside together.

600
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: Then Jalen Nole, the smaller guy. He needs space to work.

601
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: He struggles and contested throw situations, but if you get

602
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: him in space, he's lethal. Erseri had fallen because of

603
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: a They said he wasn't the hardest worker. He didn't

604
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: follow through. He's got tremendous upside and they need an

605
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: offensive lineman there. I also like Luke Lache in the

606
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: seventh round. He's a guy who off of the twenty

607
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: twenty two film, we thought, Wow, this is gonna be

608
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: the next great tight end to come out of Iowa

609
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: was injured in twenty twenty three spent most of the

610
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: year on the sidelines. If they get him back to

611
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: where he was previously, it was a home run selection.

612
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's jump over to the Indianapolis Colts. Tyler Warren

613
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: falls with them at fourteen. Tony the tight end out

614
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: of Penn State, j T. Tumalo. I think one of

615
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: the safer picks in this draft is gonna be a

616
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: really good edge player, strong player, big long arms. Justin Wally,

617
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: cornerback out of Minnesota. In around three Jalen Travis and

618
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: those are the two when I talk about quarnerbacks setting

619
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: pushed up. Jalen Smith and Justin Waller were two of

620
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks I was thinking about at the back of

621
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: round three because it was just a very shallow group

622
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: in my opinion. At least round four, Jalen Travis offensive tackle,

623
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: Iowa State developmental guy. He might have move inside round five.

624
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: I love the DJ Gidden's pick. I think that's really

625
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: good value for them. As a backup running back out

626
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: of Kansas State, Riley Leonard the quarterback had a Notre

627
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: Dame very much in that Richardson Daniel Jones mole where

628
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: big bodied and can run a little bit. I thought

629
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: that was interesting. Tim Smith, solid defensive tackle of Alabama

630
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: and then Hunter Wooler out of Wisconsin the linebackerun around seven.

631
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard and that Richardson Molden that he's probably you

632
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: could say he's a better athlete than he is a quarterback,

633
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: and he's allowed to go learn to become a passer.

634
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren fills the need at tight end. They were

635
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: going tight end a round one, whichever one was there.

636
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: Tam Moloa is a terrific edge rusher. Keep an eye

637
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: on the fourth round pick, Jalen Travis. They wanted to

638
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: come out of here with an offensive lineman. Jalen Travis

639
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Speaker 2: of Iowa State by way of Princeton, played left tackle

640
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: last year at Iowa State. He's a tall guy who

641
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: can bend his knees. He blocks with leverage. I project

642
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: him to the right side, which I think is where

643
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: he'll going to be. Don't be surprised. By the end

644
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty five season, Jalen Travis is the

645
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Speaker 2: cult starting right tackle.

646
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Speaker 1: Oo. I like that. All right, let's go to the Jaguars.

647
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Tony here nine picks for them. We talked about the

648
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: trade up for Travis Hunter second round pick and one

649
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: next year to move up three spots, and they say

650
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna use him, maybe not full time, but significantly

651
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Then they have two

652
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: third round picks back to back eighty eight eighty nine

653
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Caleb Ranza out of Tulane. That was a little bit

654
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: early for me, and then Wyatt Milam out of West Virginia.

655
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: I though it's a really good pick at eighty nine.

656
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: I like that selection. Bachhell Tune. In round four, Trevor

657
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: Aten's getting to the end of his rookie deal. They

658
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: have Tank Bisbee Tooton certainly gives them some big playability

659
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: with some speed. Jack Kaiser in the fourth round, A

660
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: had a Notre Dame good linebacker, Jaylem mcleoud linebacker out

661
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: of Auburn. Round six with Rayon Lane out of Navy

662
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: the safety, and then Jode Manheim the center out of

663
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: USC undersize player in round seven with Quinn Allen, your guy,

664
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Speaker 1: the running back out of Syracuse.

665
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: Interesting draft. I mean, we talk about Travis Hunter all day.

666
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: The price they paid for him was steep. He'd better

667
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: pan out because that's trade is the one that if

668
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't pan out, general managers and coaches get fired fired.

669
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: I agree with your Caleb Resnor is a size speed guy.

670
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: Is he nickelback? Is he dined back? Is he a safety?

671
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: He's got upside, but you got to develop him.

672
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: Not very big either. Smaller player Wyatt.

673
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: Millim College projects to guard. He was terrific at guard

674
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: at the senior ball. I think that was good to

675
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: solidify the interior of that offensive line. I agree with

676
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: you about Touton and Leaquin Allen kind of play off

677
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: etach other Allen is a stronger pounder on the inside

678
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: who is an exceptional Hals catcher out of the backfield.

679
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: Touton has got tremendous speed and he can turn the perimeter.

680
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: One other guy I want to talk about here, Jack Kaiser.

681
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Jack Kaiser. I think you know Jack Kaiser is a

682
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: smart guy. He's instinctive and then he ran much faster

683
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: than we thought of that and he was good at

684
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl Man, and I mean he's a three

685
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: down guy. To get him in the fourth round, you know,

686
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: it's interesting they got some good players. Everyone's going to

687
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: be focusing on that trade and Travis Hunter, but they

688
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: otherwise they filled some need with solid play.

689
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Speaker 1: And Kaiser is one of those guys that, you know what,

690
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: like five days after the National title game, he's in

691
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Mobile playing the Senior Bowl, which was great. And you

692
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: get the sense, Tony that the Jaguars and Liam Collen

693
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: wants to remake that running back room a little bit.

694
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: With atn and Bigsby already there and they've been good

695
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: players for them, but adding Tunan Allen to your point,

696
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: they do compliment each other, well, I almost feel like

697
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: they're trying to remake that room. I want to be surprised.

698
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: You talk about like Dallas needing a running back. There's

699
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: another team you mentioned that he needed a running back. I

700
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if Atm or Bigsby at some point

701
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: might get moved With the additions of those two rookie ess.

702
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm surprised they didn't add a tight end because as

703
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: the reporting was, when they lost Evan Ingram, that's right

704
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: when they cut them, right when it looked like the

705
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: Jaguars were gonna take Ashton Genty with that fifth pick.

706
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: I had said the game plan was to go in

707
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: and just add weapons for Trevor Lawrence, and that's exactly

708
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: what they did. They also got up some help on

709
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: the offensive line, so I was more surprised that they

710
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: didn't look at the tight end position, especially later in

711
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: the draft, when guys like Roonda Yatson were available.

712
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Titans. Here nine picks

713
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: for them. Tony cam Ward first overall, your guy, Olofemi

714
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 1: Oladjo in round number two. I thought he might get

715
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: the round three, but he's so much physical, physical traits

716
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: are off the charts. Well, yeah, smart kid, exactly. He

717
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: goes in round two. Kevin Winston Junior, the big physical

718
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: safety at a Penn State. In round three. Hit in

719
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: ACL this year. Tremair Dike, the wide receiver out of Florida,

720
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: big size, big speed guy. Tested really well. Gunner Helm.

721
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: I thought, that's a nice pick. The tight end out

722
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: of Texas at picked one in the fourth round. And

723
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: then Elik I am an or Tony the Stanford wide

724
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: receiver pick thirty six. I thought those are some really

725
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: good value selections there with weapons for cam Ward Jackson

726
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: Slater Sacramento State won sixty seven. And then you have

727
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Harris and Khalim Mullings the Calla and Michigan players,

728
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: but they.

729
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Did a good jubb away through. I thought Dyke was

730
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: selected a little bit earlier. He does Wisconsin transfer to

731
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: play to Flower last year, does have some return skills.

732
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: Femiolo Daju one of my favorites. I mean, a guy

733
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: who you know was an inside linebacker UCLA, moved the

734
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: outside linebacker, just destroyed everybody at the senior ball. A

735
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: smart guy, just an interesting guy to speak with at

736
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: dinner with him, I texted after he was selected. He's

737
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: a really good guy and easy guy to root for.

738
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: I am Monora. A Monora I think is a Titans

739
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: type of receiver, big bodied, contested catch guy who's just

740
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: got to improve his route runner or expand his route running.

741
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: And Jackson Slater guard can play also play center. I

742
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 2: thought that was good value.

743
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: In round five, you turned him into a Banora. That

744
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: was pretty good alright's right, alright, know exactly? Oh to

745
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: him for sure. After getting drafted. I thought that was

746
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: a nice I thought it was a nice draft by

747
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: the Titans. Yeah. And then the word is, by the way,

748
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: we'll get to the best undrafted players in a second.

749
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: I think I saw last night that Zavi ostrepo Is

750
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: is going there as an undrafted guy to repair with camboard.

751
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Let's go to the AFC East. The Bills,

752
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: well Tony, they wanted to fix their defense. They certainly

753
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: had enough players to try and do it. First five

754
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: picks on the defensive side of the ball. Maxwell Harrison,

755
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: the speedster corner out of Kentucky. TJ. Sanders, defensive tackle

756
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: out of South Carolina. Landon Jackson are kinsaw edge player,

757
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: Dion Walker, the gigantic interior defensive tackle. Jordan Hancock, cornerback

758
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State in round five. Jackson Hall is

759
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: a blocking tight end. I don't know how many tight

760
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: ends the Bills think they need. With kin Kaida Knox

761
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: already there, He's in round five as well. Dorian Strong

762
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good value for him. The

763
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: corner in around six out of Virginia Tech, Chase lunp

764
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: the Yukon offensive tackle in round six, and then Kden Prather,

765
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: the wide receiver out of Maryland in around seven.

766
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: A lot of good potential defensive players here. I like TJ.

767
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: Sanders a lot. And then we said, well, maybe they

768
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: want to get help for at Oliver, but he's a

769
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: lot might get Oliver. I mean, not the biggest guy

770
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: in the world, but very explosive. He's very similar to

771
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: at Oliver one hundred percent. I'm with you, Yeah, So

772
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't see if they wanted to get help for him,

773
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: why they draft the same type of guy. Although they

774
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: did come back with Dion Walker in the fourth round,

775
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: and if Dion Walker really can get his game back

776
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: to where it was in twenty twenty three and get

777
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: to the level where people think he should be, then

778
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: they hit a home run and they got to help

779
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: for Ed Oliver. I thought Landon Jackson in the third

780
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: round was phenomenal, phenomenal value who definitely fits that system.

781
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: I like the Hairston pick. I like the Dorrian Schwank pick.

782
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: As you also pointed out, a bigger, bigger cornerback who

783
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: really fits the mold of what the the type of

784
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: defense the Bills play.

785
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: Hey, look, we talked about the Chiefs, right, but these

786
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: better teams like the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Bills, part

787
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: of me, the Eagles. These are good teams. You're not

788
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: gonna have premium picks. You have to re sign your

789
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: own players. You're not gonna have a ton of money

790
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: to spend it fore agency. You gotta hit your draft picks.

791
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: And I thought some of those teams on the top

792
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: of the league did a really nice job with the

793
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: picks that they had trying to reinforce their rosters this year.

794
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Dolphins. I'm sure Giant

795
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: fans don't want to hear that. I'm sorry, folks, but

796
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: it's it's It's true. Giants did really well too. But

797
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: so to the Eagles, all right, And I thought the

798
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: other NFC tam NFC teams actually had pretty good drafts

799
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: as well. All right, let's go to the Dolphins. Eight picks,

800
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: thirteenth overall. Kenneth Grant defense, tackle out of Michigan, thirty

801
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: seventh overall in the second round, Jonas savanea out of Arizona,

802
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: played tackle. There probably going to be a guard. I

803
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: like the Jordan Phillips value in round five. A really

804
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: good interior defensive lineman. Not a lot of pass rush

805
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: production in college, but he has the juice and he's

806
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: good against the run. Jason Marshall, cornerback out of Florida.

807
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: Dante Trader, junior safety out of Maryland. He had a

808
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: nice senior Bowl when we were down there. Oli Gordon

809
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: very udolphin zy like running back. You know they have

810
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: the two speed guys, but I think he really compliments

811
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: what they have well. Loved the Quinn yours picking around

812
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: seven Tony where he can sit behind to a learn

813
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: behind with a good offensive coach and Mike McDaniels. And

814
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: we know two had some injury issues, so he might

815
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: get into a game this year. And then Zeke Bigger

816
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: is the defensive tackle out of Georgia Tech.

817
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: The only pick A selection I question here is Jason Marshall,

818
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: Florida in the fifth round. I mean he was more

819
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: bark than bite. He's got the size and speed, but

820
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: the production wasn't there and he was up and down.

821
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant I had him going to the Dolphins early

822
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: in my earlie mock drafts. I think him and Jordan

823
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Phillips that's two terrific guys that fill in the center

824
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: of that defensive line that's been hurting since they lost

825
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins two years ago. Savanaa is a terrific, punching

826
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: him out type of lineman. I like Dante Trader. Dante

827
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: Trader is a great football player. He's a terrific athlete

828
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: who was an outstanding Alcross player. He just doesn't test

829
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: all that well, which is why he fell. And then

830
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: quin Youwers, who could be one of the biggest bargains

831
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: of the draft when he went in the seventh round.

832
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: I kept saying sixth round, but seventh round.

833
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I agree. I think good good players there,

834
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: all right. Patriots Tony eleven picks a lot of picks

835
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: for New England. Three in the seventh round. Let's go

836
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: through him real quick. Patriots Will Campbell fourth overall. Cheveon

837
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Henderson good value with thirty eight. Him and Rondre Stevens

838
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: and are going to be a nice thunder un lightning

839
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: combination at running back. Kyle Williams. They finally get their

840
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver at sixty nine. I think he'll be a

841
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: good player for them mid wide receiver with Stefan Diggs,

842
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: Jared Wilson, potential future starting center. So you get a

843
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: left tackle, you get a center in the same draft

844
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: out of Georgia. A couple fourth round picks Craig Woodson

845
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: at a cow good ball production, good player, Joshua Farmer,

846
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: good defensive tackle out of Florida State, Braden Swinston. I thought,

847
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: fifth round, that's good value out of LSU, good football

848
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: player as an edge Andres Borgalis out of Miami the kicker.

849
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: And in sixth round and the seventh round picks tackle

850
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: Marcus Bryant, long snapper, Julian Ashby, and then Kobe Minor

851
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: at the cornerback out of Memphis.

852
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: This was my favorite draft. I like it. They got

853
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: good players and they filled a lot of holes. Will

854
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: Campbell was probably the most pure left tackle, pass blocking

855
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: left tackle in this year's draft. John and I talked

856
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: about him at nauseum during the early during the season.

857
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: You know, if you get to Will Campbell late in

858
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 2: the second half of the LSU season, you have a

859
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl type of left tackle or Pro Bowl tackle

860
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: type of tackle in the making. You mentioned it with

861
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 2: Treveon Henderson. Taking him in the second round works well.

862
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 2: With Ramadri Stevenson, home run hitting type of ball carrier.

863
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams great route runner, polished. You know, the Patriots

864
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: have a history of drafting receivers that go nowhere. Hopefully

865
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams breaks that curse. Jared Wilson potential starter down

866
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: the road. I think he's better athlete than he is

867
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: a football player, but he's got some upside. Craig Woodson,

868
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: a hard hitting safety, and Joshua Farmer in the fourth round.

869
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: I had him going in the third round of my

870
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: mock draft, surprisington the New York Giants. He fell in

871
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: the fourth to the fourth round because of injury concerns.

872
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: But he's got size, he's explosive, he's starting to hit

873
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: his stride so again. And even Braden Swinston, you've got

874
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: a situational pass rusher. So I think with one, two, three, four, five, six,

875
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: seven picks, the first seven picks and even even the

876
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: kicker eight picks. I mean, these are guys that are

877
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: not only going to be on the Patriots roster in

878
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, but playing big roles.

879
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: Throwing the long snapper who I'm sure you go there,

880
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: you goh, multiple special teams impact players there all right,

881
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: final team here Tony the New York Jets, armand Membo

882
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: at seventh over they right tackle him and Olu fashion

883
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: now can be bookends for a long time. Mason Taylor

884
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: at forty two, that's right where I think most people

885
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: had him. Maybe a little bit later. Some people had

886
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: him into the first round. Good all around tight end,

887
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: no wow me skills, but he's better than averaging good

888
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: at everything that he does. Az aar A Thomas, the

889
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: big bump and rum cornerback that dropped all the way

890
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: at seventy three. Some people had him as a late one,

891
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: so I think the Jets should be happy to get

892
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: him at the start of the third round. Two fourth

893
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: round picks Arian Smith the speedster that has trouble catching

894
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: the ball out of Georgia, Malchai Moore out of Alabama

895
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: the safety, and then two fifth round picks Francisco myaga,

896
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: did you have any other pronounce that?

897
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: One? MAUI goa sure, and then uh, it's Maui and

898
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: goa right, yeah.

899
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I guess it kind of is. And then

900
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: in pick one seventy six, Tyler Barn the defensive end

901
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: out of Miami breakdown the Jets for me tone I knew.

902
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: For a month. I said, amm Memble was the player

903
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: that they wanted. I love him. I think he could

904
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: be the best offensive lineman to come from this draft.

905
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: He's a terrific, dominant right tackle prospect who's an outstanding athlete.

906
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: The combiners great, the tape was even better in the

907
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: past two years. Doesn't have the great length that you

908
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: maybe want in a right tackle, but the playing style

909
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 2: is there. Mason Taylor, if you follow me on Twitter,

910
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: I said a couple hours before the draft, this was

911
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: the guy that they were targeting around to. There was

912
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: some question as to whether or not he was going

913
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: to be there. He fell to them. As John said,

914
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: he's good in all areas. He's not spectacular. He's not

915
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: a down the field type of receiver like Arroy Is.

916
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: He's not a Jacksonhawes type of blocker, but he's good

917
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: in all aries. He's got great bloodlines, of course, with

918
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: his father, the Jason Taylor Azariah Thomas. The reason he

919
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: fell was because he ran four or five a to

920
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: pro day, and he couldn't run fast. But he's someone

921
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: who showed consistent development in his game. I thought he

922
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: was terrific at the senior ball.

923
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny we saw the lack of speed at

924
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: the senior ball when he goted Tess Johnson, who also

925
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: ran for.

926
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Malachi more Small, but smart and instinctive, the type of

927
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: defensive back that Aaron Glenn had success with in Detroit.

928
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: But Bryan Branch, Yeah, Malachai Moore is not the same,

929
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: but he's the same same type of athlete or at

930
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: that level. But he's the same type of player. Tyler

931
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: Barron in the fifth round could be a steal for

932
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: the Jets. He is an outstanding defensive end, a terrific

933
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: pass rusher. He tested off the charts. The problem is

934
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: the motor isn't always running. So if they're able to

935
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: get Tyler Baron to play the way he's capable of

936
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: each and every down, they hit a home run in

937
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: the fifth round.

938
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: All right, Tony, let's do a couple of superlosives. Sierra,

939
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: Let's do who are your favorite value picks in the

940
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: draft this year, and then we'll hit your favorite players

941
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: that you have left. Who are your favorite value picks

942
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: in the draft.

943
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about I mean the two quarterbacks Quen

944
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 2: you were going to the seventh round. Should Door Sanders

945
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: going in the fifth round? Those were those were outstanding there.

946
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: I thought Marcus bow of the Giants going in the

947
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: fifth round was a great value. Ty Robinson one of

948
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: my personal favorites going to the Eagles in round four.

949
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: I thought it was an outstanding selection. Damien Martinez in

950
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: the seventh round by the Seattle Seahawks, Sorry about that,

951
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: losing my voice was great value. I mentioned a Manor

952
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: to the Titans in the fourth round, Danny Stutsman to

953
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: the Saints in round four, a Rendez Gatson to the

954
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: Charges in the fifth round. I had Gatson rated higher

955
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: than most the former receiver who moved to tight end

956
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: John and I saw him at the Shrine Bowl at

957
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty seven pounds and he didn't miss

958
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: a beat. He was easily moving about the field. He's

959
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: a great pass catcher. And then Dorian Strong, as I

960
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, in the sixth round by the Buffalo Bills,

961
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: fits the physical prototype that they want. He's a decent athlete.

962
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: He shows terrific ball skills. How in the heck he

963
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: felt of the sixth round is beyond me. But I

964
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: think the Bill's got a terrific cornerback there. Yeah.

965
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: And then Demian Martinez you mentioned around seven. I think

966
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: that's just great value to and he's behind a couple

967
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: of good young running backs there, but they'll figure out

968
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: what to get him on the field. He's a he's

969
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: a really really good player, all right. And then finally

970
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: Tony of the undrafted folks. So we better wrap up

971
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: here before your you know, Larynce falls out of your throat. Here,

972
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: who are your favorite undrafted guys and we'll see where

973
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: it becomes official. Of these guys sign over the next

974
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: couple of weeks.

975
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: Two cornerbacks Kobe Bryant from Kansas who we saw at

976
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: the at the Shrine.

977
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: He was great.

978
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: He was great, but he wouldn't shut up, so that

979
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 2: might be an issue. I mean, he's a terrific cornerback.

980
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: He's very feisty, may have turned some people off. Zia Alexander,

981
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: not the fastest guy.

982
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: In the world.

983
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: Came from a small school. I thought he played terrific

984
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: last year at LSU. Joshua Simon, I'm shocked did he

985
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: get drafted. Joshua Simon's one of those move tight ends,

986
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: get down the field, catch the ball. Needs work on

987
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: his game, but a developmental prospect. Jamon Dumas. Johnson had

988
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: some off the field character was if you want to

989
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: say that turn people off, but still sixty pounds. He's

990
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: a tough, punch in the face linebacker. We saw him

991
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: at the Trimble made some nice plays in coverage.

992
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: I talked to him down there too. A really nice kid.

993
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: Yes kids, I.

994
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: Think I think people have the wrong perception of him.

995
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: One of the first things he did when he got

996
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: his nil money was by his mom a home. But

997
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: he came from a tough background. He came from a

998
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: tough place, and it just maybe the perception was wrong.

999
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: I love Andrew Armstrong. Isaac Tesla went in the third round.

1000
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe Andrew Armstrong didn't get especially if he

1001
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: ran four four to five. I know, I couldn't believe.

1002
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 2: It in the production. Chared Ivy of Mississippi. Justin Barren,

1003
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: who signed with I wrote it out, tweeted out last

1004
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: night I forgot.

1005
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: And I think Andrew Armstrong son with the Dolphins, or

1006
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: at least that's what the reporter is, which would be

1007
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: a nice spot for him and Clay Webb.

1008
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: I mean he's a guy who did very well in

1009
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: the lead up to the draft.

1010
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: Fields stuff with him.

1011
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Got to keep the lid on it there, Clay.

1012
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got some upside. He did really well

1013
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: at the senior balls. We saw he did and he

1014
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: had a decent combine.

1015
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of good names that out there

1016
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: for this UDFA class. Tony, this was it's fun. We're

1017
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: gonna have one more podcast next week. Appreciate it and

1018
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: next week, Tony, you better start working on it. He's

1019
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: gonna have his watch well, we'll call it. I'm just

1020
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: gonna call it his watch list for for twenty twenty six.

1021
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: So if people out there like me need to do

1022
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: some summer scouting, I'll walk off. Tony's want to do

1023
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: thirty You can give me thirty guys. Can you get me?

1024
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: All right? Give me everybody you want to give me.

1025
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: So break that down you want to do it.

1026
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna talk about a lot about the quarterbacks,

1027
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: because yeah, sure, what a great quarterback classes agree, and

1028
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: we'll get into that.

1029
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: I think they have some work to do before it's

1030
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback, I would agree with you. So we'll see

1031
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: how that goes. We'll talk about the other positions as well.

1032
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: Break it down however you want. You want to bring

1033
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: it down altogether, do position by position however you want

1034
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: to do. With Tony, we are a slave to your

1035
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: draft genius.

1036
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: There we go.

1037
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: All right, that's all the time we have here on

1038
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: draft season, on part two of our Draft review, looking

1039
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: at the AFC and some of our drafts deplorids as well.

1040
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: It was brought to you by Moody's, a proud partner

1041
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants, uniting the brightest minds to

1042
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: turn today's risks into tomorrow's opportunities. Learn more at Moodies.

1043
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: We loved having Tony in the Hackensack Meridian Health podcast studio.

1044
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: Keep getting better and now he goes away into his hole.

1045
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: We're not gonna see him in person again for a year. Enjoy,

1046
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: thank you, and we'll talk to you next week.

1047
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: Tom I'm actually going to the city tomorrow to walk around,

1048
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: just to get out of my office.

1049
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: I like it very good, and I'm gonna i'm lawn

1050
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: today and we were recording this on Sunday. I'm gonna

1051
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: go watch the Knicks hopefully beat the Pistons in Game four.

1052
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: Of their playoff series for Tony Paulid. I've jod smelt

1053
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: we'll see it next week for one more draft season

1054
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: before we take three months off and enjoy life a

1055
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: little bit until then.