1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Command his family. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 2: Another special episode of Next Man Up for you, we 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: got ce Rod Chris Rodriguez coming off of his huge 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: game against the Tennessee Titans. We talk about how he's 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: been able to stay locked in through all the ups 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: and downs this season has brought to him. Then we 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: have a special legend joining the show. Former Redskin fullback 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Mike Sellers joins the show to talk about his devastating 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: heart transplant and how he's been able to bounce back 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: and continue to get back to the game he loves 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: so much and all that. The man is family for 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: our next man Up, it's somebody that's very familiar with 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: being the next man up, our running back Chris Rodriguez brother. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Always good to see you. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: Likewise, yes, sir, thank you. 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: Bro. 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: It's crazy because last time we spoke you as a rookie, 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: and a lot has changed for you since then. But 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: the most important thing you're married now and you got 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: you a wife. 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: You are a husband. 22 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: Man. 23 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: How was that? Then? That's good? 24 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: Man? 25 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 5: I mean for people that don't know, me and my 26 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 5: girl been together for almost eleven years now, so high school, yes, high. 27 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: School, but we was really together in fifth grade, off 28 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: and on like for the longest time. 29 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 30 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 5: Yes, So I mean my second year of college, we 31 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 5: when we you know, started to get back together. It 32 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 5: was like, it feels like we've been married since then, 33 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 5: so you know that it was just another thing just 34 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 5: to tie to not for real. 35 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: So going to college together and all that stuff was, 36 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: was that just like random? Did y'all like kind of 37 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: have that plan? 38 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: No? 39 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 5: So we actually we just went to the same high 40 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 5: school that was really elementary through high school, went to 41 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 5: the same school, and then when I went off to college. 42 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 5: You know, she at the end of high school, she 43 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 5: was like, you know, go do your thing. So we 44 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: kind of, you know, fell off for a little bit. 45 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 5: And then my sophomore year at Kentucky, Uh, she was like, 46 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: you know, like what are you doing. We just you know, 47 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 5: just catching up. And then she came up for like 48 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 5: a weekend, and she came up for a week. Then 49 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 5: it was a month and I was like, all right, stay. 50 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 5: So then we end up staying with each other. So 51 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 5: then we've been staying with each other for about five 52 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 5: six years now, I think maybe maybe longer than that. 53 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: Wow. 54 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Man, And that's your best friend, man, best. 55 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: Friend right here, right or die. 56 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: How valuable is it to have her here with you 57 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: through all the things you've been through these past few years, 58 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: even the things you were going through in college. In 59 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: the last time we talked, we talked about the different 60 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: obstacles you had for soccer. 61 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: How has she been able to help you get through 62 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: those things? 63 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: Man? 64 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: It's she's She's tremendous man. You know, Like when I 65 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: go through things, she understands me. You know, some people 66 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 5: are different, they act different ways. Uh, But me, when 67 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 5: I am going through stuff, the way I cope with 68 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: things is I kind of just you know, want to 69 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: be left alone for a minute. And uh, I had 70 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: a real bad problem of not talking about stuff, you know, 71 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 5: a lot of which a lot of men do. But uh, 72 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 5: she encouraged me to, you know, start talking about things. 73 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 5: And when we were when I was going through things, 74 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 5: especially here, like she was like, all right, you know what, 75 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 5: we're going to talk about it. 76 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: But when we're done, we're done. It's over with. 77 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 5: And you know, stuff like that helps a lot, you know, 78 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 5: it helps ease the mind. And then you know, when 79 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 5: I did actually get cut before the Cowboys game, we 80 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 5: talked about it. Then we left it alone, and then 81 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: you know, whenever they did call me back to come 82 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: back up here, she was like, no, just no, this 83 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 5: is this is what you've been waiting for. 84 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: When you go through those things, man, because you weren't 85 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: just cut a couple like once you cut a couple 86 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: of times, maybe've gone up and down from active to 87 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: practice squads. 88 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: And not even on the roster. 89 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: Man. 90 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: With all that inconsistency you're dealing with, bro, you've managed 91 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: to stay consistent. 92 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: So have you stayed locked in? 93 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 5: I mean you know it's I have a goal, you know, 94 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 5: and my goal isn't to just be like an average player, 95 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 5: you know, I want to be I want to be great. 96 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: You know. 97 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 5: So when I think about that and think about who 98 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 5: I am as a person, my numbers called, I'm not 99 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 5: just going to go out there, you know, just be inconsistent, 100 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 5: Like it just don't run in my blood, you know. 101 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 5: So whenever it's my number is called, it's like, all right, 102 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: let's you gotta go out there and give it, y'all. 103 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: And it's easy during those times to doubt yourself, yeah, 104 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: to not be positive, to be like, dang, is this 105 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: it for me? 106 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: Because that that last cut could be the last cut? 107 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: It can you know what I mean, there's no promise 108 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: that you're gonna get called back to anywhere. 109 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: How do you stay positive through that? 110 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: And hasn't been tough to stay positive and believe in 111 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: yourself during you know, so much ups and downs. 112 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, obviously it was tough. 113 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 5: But at the same time, I knew it wasn't It 114 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 5: wasn't the last time I was gonna be on a team, 115 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 5: you know. I felt like growing up, my dad instilled 116 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: in me like, hey, like, you've worked so hard, don't 117 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 5: go out there and just you know, just give up. 118 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 5: So when I go out there, it's like, all right, 119 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: not don't give up. And when I when I did 120 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: get cut again, like I just knew it wasn't gonna 121 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: be the end of c ROD, you know. 122 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 123 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: And a lot of people focus on like when somebody 124 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: it's cut, the negative of that, right, But you know 125 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: only that you've been brought back. Yeah, So to me, 126 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: that shows a positivity from the culture staff, that says, 127 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 2: you know, what, we believe in this guy. Because there's 128 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: plenty of running backs they can go get this, plenty 129 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: of different guys to bring in, but they keep relying 130 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: on you. 131 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 132 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: To you, man, when this coaching staff and this ownership says, 133 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: you know what, c Rod, listen, we don't have roof 134 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: for you right now. We want to keep you close, 135 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: we want to bring you back. 136 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it means a lot. And uh that's one 137 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 5: of the things that I did notice when I when 138 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 5: I did have that meeting with DQ and AP, you know, 139 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 5: they did say, you know, we we hate to do it, 140 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 5: you know, but it's just you know, it's the way 141 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 5: that you know, things fell in line. But listen, we 142 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: love you. We would love to have you back here 143 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: on practice squad. We think you're a tremendous athlete. We 144 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 5: like everything you do here. So when that time came, 145 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 5: I knew that those coaches still believed in me. And 146 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 5: then when after the I think it was a New 147 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 5: York game where they told me like, hey, like you're 148 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 5: gonna be dressing, You're gonna be playing. I was like, man, 149 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 5: after it was a decent game for me, and I 150 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: told them like, yeah, I appreciate you guys. You know 151 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: you guys believing in me helped me believe in myself. 152 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: You mentioned that New York game because that's when you 153 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: really got a chance to play. I think you had 154 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: over fifty yards that game. Yes, you played really well, 155 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: but then again you get cut afterwards for that I 156 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: did during that time though, when you had that New 157 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: York game, did you think you had done enough to 158 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: stay on the roster? 159 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 5: Honestly, I didn't know. I felt like I did, But 160 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 5: at the always in the back of my head, I 161 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: feel like there's just a little bit more I could 162 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: have done, you know, when I like, for instance, like 163 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: it was third and I think one on the two 164 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: yard line and they did give me the green light 165 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 5: to go and score, and I didn't score, as like, 166 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 5: oh well, if I did score, would that have changed 167 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: their mind? Or maybe if I would have made a 168 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 5: different cut or a different reader, you know, just little stuff. 169 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 5: But at that time, like, you know, I'm just like, 170 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: I'm excited. I got to win, I got to play, 171 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 5: I got fifty yards. But at the same time, it's like, okay, 172 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 5: we still got work to do. 173 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: So instead of being complacent, instead of feeling bad for yourself, 174 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: you say, you know what, these are the things that 175 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: I can self reflect on and use this time to 176 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: get better. 177 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: As a player, exactly. 178 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: And none of that goes into the I mean I 179 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: don't know if you were going to go into the 180 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 5: Cowboys game where I did. I'm like, okay, the things 181 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 5: that I didn't do well against the Giants, how can 182 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 5: I do it better? And I felt like I showcased 183 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 5: that a little bit. But like again, man, never complacent. 184 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: Still got work to do, yes sir. 185 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: And then man, we talking about these games is going 186 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: down the timeline. Now we're coming off of a huge 187 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: game for you, man, touchdown I think thirteen carries, ninety 188 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: five yards. Man, strong out and strong game when the 189 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: team really actually needed you yet Yeah, we were in 190 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: the lead. However, we need you know, we're down some people, man, 191 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: and we need somebody to come in and step up. 192 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: And you did that, Yes, sir. 193 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: I gotta feel like now watching that, man. I mean 194 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: I remember actually watching the real time man, because you know, 195 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: you know, man, I love I love room for you. 196 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: I said, oh no, they ain't gonna be able to 197 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: cut them again. Yeah, ain't no way. Do you feel 198 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: like you've done enough now to solidify your position on 199 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 2: this team? 200 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I feel like that. 201 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: But again, man, it's just it's always that thought in 202 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: the back of my head, like it's happened before, so 203 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 5: obviously I got a good chance this week coming up, 204 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: and hopefully I get a lot of carrieres and a 205 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 5: lot of play time to showcase what I can do, 206 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: because man, we're still getting better. So we're gonna go 207 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 5: out there and hopefully, you know, showcase that and see what. 208 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: All the things you have been through. Man, you get 209 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: to that Tennessee game and do what you do out there? Man, 210 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: how special was that for you? 211 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: Bro? Man? 212 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: It was special? It was. 213 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 5: That was a really special game for me, especially man, 214 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 5: I mean coming off that getting cut, but it was 215 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 5: really special. 216 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: Man. 217 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: I had my wife and my best friend in the 218 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: stands and you know, we talked about it. It's like, man, 219 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 5: like I don't want to feel that feeling no more, 220 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 5: you know, and my wife always sends me like, you know, 221 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: good luck text or whatever. 222 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: But she sent the text. Man, it was. 223 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: It almost got emotional while reading it. You know, it 224 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 5: was like, hey, just when you're getting the end zone, 225 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: just know you're meeting your mom there and that thing. Man, 226 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 5: I swear I just knew I had to go give 227 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 5: it my all. But man, it was it was real 228 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 5: special for me, and it made it feel even more 229 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 5: special that. You know, my teammates were happy around me. 230 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: You know a lot of people are like Chris, like 231 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 5: you seem so excited when you score. I look around, man, 232 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 5: my teammates were so excited for me. Everybody on the sideline, Like, 233 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 5: I got yelled at by coach. He was like, hey, 234 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 5: you're doing all that tapping up, Come over here. We 235 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: got to go through these corrections. 236 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: So man, it was. It was a really exciting game, man. 237 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: And you think of these moments you've had this year. 238 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: Man, You're getting married, bro, you really establishing yourself on 239 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: this team. You have this brotherhood not only just coaches, 240 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: but all the players that want to see you shine 241 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: and do well. 242 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: Man, how happy would your mom be for you? 243 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: Man? 244 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: She would be so happy And the crazy part, man, 245 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: Like my mom, if she was here, she'd probably be 246 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 5: living with me right now, be at every game. 247 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,359 Speaker 3: She'd probably be driving. 248 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: The fans nuts because she swears up and down that 249 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: I was the best player in the world, her and 250 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: my sister. But man, I know she would be proud, 251 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 5: and uh, you know, every day that I go through life, 252 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: I just hope that I keep making her proud. 253 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: And you're definitely making a proud. 254 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: Man, you're making all of us proud, and it's been 255 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: so much fun to watch you, especially like being a 256 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: part of such a special running back room. Man, what 257 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: a really good rushing team and you have a lot 258 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: to do with that. But Sodio old GI's man, you 259 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: get to play with Austin Eckler, should you even Nick Nichols? Man, 260 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: what have you gotten for being in that running back room? 261 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: Man? 262 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 5: It's a lot of knowledge in that room, you know, 263 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 5: as far as like be robbed. You know, I was 264 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 5: in college the same Thomas b Robb for a couple 265 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 5: of years. I remember he actually had us over at 266 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 5: his house and I've seen he had this trophy. It 267 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 5: set a first team all SEC. So he made first 268 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: team and I made second team. And I used to 269 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 5: hate him. I used to hate him. 270 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: I was a man. I was like, man, I should 271 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 3: have been first team. 272 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: And then you know, you get to meet him and 273 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: you're like, oh, man, rob was actually like a really 274 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 5: good dude, and you know he he's smart. You know 275 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 5: a lot of people don't see it, but Biro really 276 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 5: knows what's going on. Like he was coaching me up 277 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 5: today on some the Blitz pick up and I'm like, bro, 278 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 5: how do you know? 279 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: Just from sitting back here. 280 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 5: And as far as J Mack and Austin, Man, Austin, 281 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 5: I watched girl. 282 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: Everybody watch Austin. You know everybody you know. 283 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 5: So Austin I used to play with him on Madden 284 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 5: a lot, and then I got to finally meet him, 285 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: and then, uh, you know Austin. 286 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: He he's really smart. 287 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 5: Like he's like one of those dudes not even just 288 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 5: about football but outside of football, but inside of football. 289 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: Like you see him. 290 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 5: He always has his iPad. He's always writing down plays. 291 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 5: And he actually kept me and practiced one time and 292 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 5: he was like, hey, like, I don't know if I'm 293 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 5: practice to day, so he make sure you locked in 294 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 5: on all these reps. So I'm locked in. I'm like, 295 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 5: all right, I'm about to go in there. I need 296 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: to know all the reps. I didn't get in, but 297 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: at the same time I was locked in. I told 298 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: him like, yo, I appreciate that. And then for J Max, 299 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 5: you know man, obviously he's been cut a few times 300 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 5: and whatever. And when I did get my opportunity, he 301 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 5: you know, he came up to me before the game. 302 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 5: It was like, yo, like stop stressing you're good, man, 303 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: go out there and play a game. And I got 304 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 5: a lot of respect for him for that, man, because 305 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 5: I was I was nervous. I was too nervous for 306 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 5: the New York game. Actually I was too nervous out there. 307 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 5: But you know, he came up to me. It was like, 308 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: you know, just chill out, man, go play a game. 309 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: Man. 310 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: That's beautiful to hear man because it's like you can see, 311 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: like through all positions on this team, there's a brotherhood there, 312 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: and I know a lot of that starts with this 313 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: coaching staff. And you're really lucky man because Anthony Man, 314 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: that's that's a former head coach. Yeah, now he gets 315 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: to work with you guys and help hold you guys. 316 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: What's it been like being coached on the anthemy. 317 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 5: Man coach lamb Man. He uh, you know, he's one 318 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 5: of those coaches. If he coaches one, he coaches all, 319 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 5: you know. And you know, I didn't realize that at first, 320 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: you know, especially like I don't want to compare it 321 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 5: like to last year. But last year, if I didn't 322 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: get a rep, you know, I was like, oh I 323 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: get it in the game. I'm like I did this, 324 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 5: So what do I got. Now it's different. 325 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: You know. 326 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 5: Now if I don't get a rep, I'm like, all right, 327 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 5: I know what. I still know what I got. He 328 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: and he knows it too, Like if I'm if he 329 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: sees us not doing anything, He's like, go back there 330 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 5: with the quarterbacks and go get these reps, you know, 331 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 5: and uh man, he's he's still he's one of my 332 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: favorite coaches that I've had, you know, in a long time. 333 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 5: He coaches us hard, but he also prepares us, you 334 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: know for outside outside of work. You know, like he 335 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 5: asked us questions like every now and then, like you know, 336 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 5: what are you what are you you know, grateful for? 337 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 5: What do you what are you passionate about? You know 338 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 5: outside of football? And he kind of hit me off 339 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 5: guard one time asking me that, and now I's like, whoa, 340 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: But you know we had that talk and uh when 341 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 5: I first got here, I told him about the situation 342 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 5: my mom's and you know, we got to talking a 343 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 5: little bit. But uh man, I really respect that guy. 344 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 4: Man. 345 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: He knows what he's doing. 346 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite people in his building because 347 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: he does give those like this ol G uncle vibe. Yeah, 348 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: Well he gonna talk to and he might not say 349 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: too much, but when he says it, man, you're. 350 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: Really exactly exactly. 351 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: It's been great seeing what he's been able to do 352 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: with y'all. Man, and I appreciate your time, brother, Man. 353 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: Were coming off the Bible, we have the Saints. We're 354 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: gonna be in Nola, Man, coming. 355 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Off of a huge game. See what what can fans 356 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: expect not only from you, but these commanders. 357 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: This Sunday Man from from us. 358 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 5: You know, we're, like you said, we're coming off a 359 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 5: boy week and a lot of people are expecting us, 360 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: you know, still beating our legs up under us. 361 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: No, it ain't that. 362 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 5: We We came back. D Q put us in the 363 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 5: in the right position to go out there and play hard. 364 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 5: So you can expect us to go out there and 365 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 5: play hard. 366 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: Uh in the backs. 367 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: You know we're gonna go out there and do We're 368 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 5: gonna go out there and do what we need to do. 369 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 5: But at the same time, you know we're gonna go 370 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 5: out there and stay focused, get the job done. 371 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: See Rob Man, I appreciate you always. 372 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: Man. 373 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: You know we can sit here and talk, Sir. It's 374 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: always a great time. 375 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: Bro. 376 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Just no, man, I'm out here rooting for you. Brother. 377 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: Every time you do well. You know you see these 378 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: suit as the game over. Man, I'm always so happy 379 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: for you. Man. I can't wait to see you to 380 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: be successful. 381 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: Bro, appreciate it. 382 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: Certain Commander's family. Our next man up. 383 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: You're gonna be hearing his name a lot more in 384 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: the future. I got a feeling Chris Rodriguez, Brother, appreciate you. 385 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 386 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: Certain Amanda's family. 387 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: Before our next man, we have somebody extremely special, former Redskin. 388 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: It's one of the more incredible paths to the NFL 389 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: that I've ever heard. Former fullback for the Redskins, Mike Sellis. 390 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: How you doing, brother doing good? Man, highly favorite brother. 391 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: Amen of that, Amen of that. 392 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: Man. 393 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time, man, And let's get right into 394 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: it because I mentioned that path that you had. Man, 395 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: you were eighteen years old when you started playing professional 396 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: football for the CFL, the youngest to this day still 397 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: to ever play in the CFL. Man, tell us how 398 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: that happened. Give us that backstory. 399 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 6: Well, obviously that was a decent athlete in high school. 400 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 6: But uh, you know I never took my SATs. You know, 401 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 6: I never really had anybody on me to take mas Sat. 402 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 6: So I waited till the last day, showed up Blade 403 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 6: and they wouldn't let me in. So I went and 404 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 6: played Juco for the first quarter and then right after 405 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 6: Juco went straight to Canada. 406 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: Dang man, what was that journey like? 407 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: When you're your Juco kid, you definitely have the skill 408 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: set to be in the league, to being in a 409 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: high college. 410 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Then you go to the CFL. What makes you make 411 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: that decision? 412 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: Because again, that's not something that was done by others before, 413 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: especially your age. 414 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: What went into that? 415 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 6: I just meant I was bill different man. I came 416 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 6: out of high school. I was six three, two fifty 417 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 6: running a four or five forty. Not nobody athletic is 418 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 6: I could possibly be? I just my arrogance, to be honest, 419 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 6: it kind of helped me out, you know, knowing that 420 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 6: I was like, ain't nobody gonna beat me, ain't nobody 421 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 6: take me? Let's make that jump? 422 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: And what was it like when you made that jump? 423 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: You're eighteen years old, you go into a whole new country, 424 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: You're you're a professional athlete. 425 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Now, what was that like for a young eighteen year 426 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: old Mike? 427 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 6: You know, being in a different country, being that young, 428 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: you know, and uh, you know it was different. 429 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: I tell you that. 430 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 6: You know, it was more of my mom worried about 431 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 6: me than anything. Dealing with the phone calls every day, 432 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 6: being so young, and you know, being in a different 433 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 6: country where you can actually drink, you know, you know, 434 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 6: that was a little different. But other than that, man, 435 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 6: the mindset was there. You know, It's like, I'm going 436 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 6: to win me at position and it worked out. 437 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: So was the goal just to make a position and 438 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: make a name for yourself out in the CFL? Or 439 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: did you go to the CFL knowing, hey, this would 440 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: be a way for me to actually get to the NFL. 441 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 6: It was my stepistone. I knew where I wanted to be. 442 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 6: I knew where I should be. It was just a 443 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 6: matter of me taking a different path to get there. 444 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 6: So you know, they wouldn't hold me back. You know, 445 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 6: like I said, I was self shit. I knew what 446 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 6: I could do. Just had to put it on film. Man, 447 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 6: That's what I did. 448 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: So you're out there in Canada and then you do 449 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: good enough to you do get that call. You do 450 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 2: get that call from the NFL, the Redskins call. You 451 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: said they want to bring you in What was that moment, like, 452 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: you take a chance on yourself, You take a gamble 453 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: on yourself, probably a lot of people telling you that 454 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: this probably isn't the best to take, but you do 455 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: it anyway with that self confidence. What was that phone 456 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 2: call like when you're like, oh, man, I'm going back 457 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: to America. 458 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 6: Man, I mean, that's all I ever wanted to do 459 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 6: is play football, so, you know, especially at the highest level. 460 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 6: And I kicked, biting, scratched to get to where I 461 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 6: was at and there was nothing going to stop me. 462 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 6: And uh, like I said, I had to put the 463 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 6: film out of the shelf, do it. You know, bears 464 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 6: up in Canada And next day, you know, I'm playing 465 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 6: with the Skins and getting that phone call from them. Man, 466 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 6: that's just the blessing. 467 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 4: You know. 468 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 6: I had the opportunity to go other places, but some 469 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 6: just kept telling me, you know, DCS was power for 470 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 6: me to be And uh, you know, just twelve years later, yeah, 471 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 6: I am playing, you know, playing with the Redskins. 472 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: So and you said it's what you always wanted to do. 473 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: So I want to kind of run it back a 474 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: little bit because you said football is what you've always 475 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: wanted Where did that come from? Where did your love 476 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: for the game come from? 477 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 6: Man, I've been playing football since I was four, never 478 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 6: missed the or wow. Yeah, you know that that's just 479 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 6: it was built in me. You know, no one ever 480 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 6: made me play football. There's something I chose to do. Uh. 481 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 6: No one really put me to the side and actually 482 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 6: taught me the sport, you know. I mean I was 483 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 6: dealing with my little league coaches, you know. Uh, I 484 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 6: did all in the film work. You know, I studied 485 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 6: up on what I needed to learn. I just knew 486 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 6: that it's either that or going to the military. So 487 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 6: my dad was retired military, so you know I knew that. 488 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 6: I knew that very well. So it's either one the 489 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 6: military NFL one of the two. 490 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: A lot of times you're growing up a military brat. 491 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: That's really it's like college, career or military. It's like 492 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: nowhere between there. 493 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: Man. 494 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: So I definitely understand if I wasn't doing this now. 495 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: My dad told me the same thing, where you will 496 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: be in the military. 497 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: Get it, I understand. 498 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: Man. 499 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: So you get this dream, Man, you get that call 500 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: from the NFL and you go over to the Redskins, 501 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: but you've already spent a few years in Canada. What 502 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: was that transition, Like, what would the difference is there? 503 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 6: Oh, man, I said, I said it before I said again, 504 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 6: speeded the game. You know, there's a lot of people 505 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 6: that was fast like me, big like me, Bigger than me, 506 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 6: you know, faster than me. You know, when you get 507 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 6: to the league, everybody big, quick, physical factives, you know, 508 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 6: And that was an adjustment for me. But like I said, man, 509 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 6: my arrogance about the game and how good I knew 510 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 6: I was, that wasn't gonna stop me. 511 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: Man. 512 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 6: You know I'm gonna hit you. I don't care who 513 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 6: you are, You're gonna get hit. And that's one way 514 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 6: I made a name for myself on you know, getting 515 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 6: to their squad. Was when it came down to training camp, 516 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 6: you know it was gonna be a battle, and I 517 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 6: made it shirt. Let it be known that I was 518 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 6: coming down here on you. 519 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: And it had been so tough because the name of 520 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: the game, especially like when you first come to a team, 521 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: is making a name for yourself. And you know there's 522 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: total polls, right you are a number one draft pick 523 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: or your seventh round pick. There's different ways that you're 524 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: going to fall into that depth truck when you get in. 525 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: But then you're somebody coming from Canada, you might be 526 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: even lower on the total pole than even that seventh around. 527 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: Pick Man, how did you come in and make a 528 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: name for yourself when you first got to the Reskins. 529 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 6: Man, I just grinded, you know, every day. You know, 530 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 6: just I was grateful to come to practice. I was 531 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 6: always happy to be a practice. You know, people's worst day, 532 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 6: it was my greatest day, you know, like I just 533 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 6: knew every opportunity that I had was right in front 534 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 6: of me, and I had to make sure I took 535 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 6: advantage of it every single day. And you know, studying 536 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 6: playbook all that stuff. In the weave room. They had 537 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 6: to kick me out the weight room because I I 538 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 6: mean I was just I was a nut in the 539 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 6: weight room. I mean I knew that was gonna keep 540 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 6: me outy and I have a long career, which it did, 541 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 6: and you know, just I just grind it. 542 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: And that's really the story of your career, right, just 543 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: grinding and self belief. Because even when you come to 544 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 2: the NFL for that first time, you have your stint, 545 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: but then you go to Cleveland and then you get 546 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: cut and then the NFL's done. That dream might be 547 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: over at that point. It wasn't for you. But in 548 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: that moment, did you feel like, okay, after you got 549 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: cut by Cleveland, that your NFL might be done? 550 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: You know for a brief moment, and then I just 551 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: you know, the regroup check. 552 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 6: Myself, tighten myself up, and uh, you know, just get 553 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 6: back on their ground again. And you know, the second 554 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 6: time around, I got a second chance. Man, I'm blessed 555 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 6: for that, you know. Uh, you know, the guys in 556 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 6: the front office knew who I was and what kind 557 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 6: of cat I was, and they knew I wasn't a 558 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 6: bad dude, and you know, they brought me back and 559 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 6: I made the best of it coming back my second 560 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 6: time around. 561 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: And you said you had that little stinck. You had 562 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: that moment though, where you're like, dang, this might be it. 563 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: But you got yourself out of that. You can't do 564 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: that alone, right, Nobody does this journey alone. Nobody goes 565 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: through these ebbs and flows alone. Who and what helped 566 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: you get through that small part where you kind of question, hey, man, 567 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: am I done? 568 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 4: Man? 569 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 6: It was me. I won't lie really, I had to 570 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 6: do a self check. Wow, you know, because I don't 571 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 6: listen to nobody, but. 572 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: Me, ain't nobody gonna tell me what to. 573 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 6: Do because what I've done my whole life is that 574 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 6: mean where I was at, I've I've been dealing with dollars. 575 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: I've been dealing. 576 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 6: With all kinds of people telling me I can't, I 577 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 6: couldn't and I shouldn't, and I made it. So you know, 578 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 6: all all the people said I had messed up this, 579 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 6: this and that. I just smiled in their face and 580 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 6: be like, I'll be back. 581 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: And you wore back, but before you got back to 582 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: the Redskins, you went back to the CFL. Was there 583 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: anywhere luck to see leaving the NFL again to go 584 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: back to the CFL? Or You're just like, yo, whatever 585 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: it takes, I'm gonna make it happen. 586 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 6: Man, I'm playing football. One, I'm playing football. I'm doing 587 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 6: what I do best. And I knew I said, like 588 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: I said, you know, when you put good film out 589 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 6: there constantly on everyday basis, somebody's gonna see you. And like, luckily, 590 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 6: like I said, you know, the people from Skins, the 591 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 6: front office, they knew I was a good dude. 592 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: Man. You know, just you know, people make mistakes. You know. 593 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 6: You know that doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad person, 594 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 6: but you know he learned from the mistakes and I had, 595 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 6: and they gave me a second chance. And the best 596 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 6: thing about it was when I came back, Joe Gibbs 597 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 6: put me to the side and he's like, look, Mike, 598 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 6: I don't care what you did before. I need you 599 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: now and I need to know that I can count 600 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 6: on you coming from coming from Joe Gibbs. Man, that 601 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 6: you know, that's all you need to say, you know. 602 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 6: So ever since then, man, I was on the straight now, 603 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 6: doing what I had to do, being that leader and 604 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 6: just trying to win for the skins, you know. 605 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: And not everybody's receptive to those kind of moments right 606 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: where somebody pulls you to the side, it just has 607 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: a real man and man conversation with you. 608 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: But he clearly did that because he believed in you. 609 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: Man, how much did that belief from a coach like 610 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: Joe Gibbs mean to you at that time? 611 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 6: That, I mean leaves some bounds. I mean to this day, man, 612 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 6: that man have a great relationship. And when I was 613 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 6: in the hospital, he called me, gave me a shout 614 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 6: out on video. You know, I mean, call me out 615 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 6: the blue, just say you know how you doing. You know, 616 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 6: just want to check on you. Ain't talking you a lot, 617 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 6: so you know, I love it. 618 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: Man. I'd have ran through brick wall form over and 619 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 4: over again without a question. 620 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: And you ran through a few big raws for man, 621 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: because you come back and then it's crazy you have 622 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: this journey, but then you come back and you're not 623 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: only successful, but you end up being one of the 624 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: best to do what you do. You end up making 625 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. Man, How amazing was that? 626 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 4: Man? 627 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: When you found out you were going to be a 628 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl full back and only a Pro Bowl fullback, 629 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: but a starter. 630 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: What was that like? 631 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: After everything Mike Selis have been through to this point. 632 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 6: You know, the most frustrating part about it was that 633 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 6: was a seven time first alternate, seven behind all people 634 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 6: all start. 635 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: You know, so I mean to finally get that nod man. 636 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 6: You know, it's just my trials and tribulations are work 637 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 6: that I've been you know, I put in and you know, man, 638 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 6: that never give up attitude and just I knew I 639 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 6: actually be. I knew and it was just a matter 640 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 6: of time for me to get there. So that you know, 641 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 6: just kept like I said, grind, grind and grind, that's 642 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 6: what it is. Finally somebody noticed. 643 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: And Mike, as I read your story, you know, preparing 644 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: for this interview, and even as I talk to you 645 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: and hear you talking right now, the grind, the belief 646 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: and just a fighter, a true warrior has been your 647 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: whole story. So it's wild to think that you go 648 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: through all of these things, but then your toughest battle 649 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: is after the NFL when you have to have a 650 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: heart transplant. 651 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: Now, can you tell us what happened? 652 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: Like, what made you find When did you find out 653 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: you needed a heart transplant? 654 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: What was wrong? What was going on? Can you just 655 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 1: tell us that story a little bit. 656 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: Well, forgive me for one, if I get a emotional. 657 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: It's okay, man, Hey, listen, you get out whatever you 658 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: need to get out. Man, who. 659 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 6: There was a it was a long road, you know, 660 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 6: to be the health nut that I was, always in 661 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 6: the gym, always eating right, always doing the right things 662 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 6: to make sure my body was okay. 663 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 4: Especially after retirement, to find out my heart was feeling. 664 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 6: That's a I don't care what kind of man you are, 665 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 6: that's that's a blow. You know I can conquerhim many things, 666 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 6: but you know, I put it in Guy's hands, you know, 667 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 6: to take care of me and look out for me. 668 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 6: It's a blessing. I tell you that because there was 669 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 6: a few times even the nurses told me when I 670 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 6: came to, I thought that was out of a coma 671 00:27:53,680 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 6: first of all, flat line twice. And when I came to, 672 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 6: the nurses were like, there were times, Mike, we didn't 673 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 6: think you were gonna make it. And to be where 674 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 6: I'm at right now, I'm at work. I'm in one 675 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 6: of the meeting rooms right now. And to be back 676 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 6: coaching and to see my kids and the reception I 677 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 6: got when I came back, you know, I came back 678 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 6: two months after my heart transport. My wife was too 679 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 6: happy about that, but uh, you know, I had to 680 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 6: get back, man, because I had been blessed so much 681 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 6: in life. I just blessed the kids that I'm with now, 682 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 6: you know, give them the knowledge I have, you know, 683 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 6: and the desire to succeed like I have. 684 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: You know. 685 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 6: Uh, It's been it's been a long road, man, but 686 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 6: I'm back. I'm about eighty five ninety percent. Uh still 687 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 6: got the ways to go, dude, I went in the hospital, 688 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 6: I was three hundred and ten pounds solid, and I 689 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 6: came out the hospital two hundred and thirty pounds in 690 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 6: a matter of four months. Yeah, so I mean I 691 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 6: I had to learn how to walk. I had to 692 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 6: learn and feed myself again. You know, for somebody who's 693 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 6: been so dominant through my whole life and to be 694 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 6: in a sense helpless, you know, you gotta take pride 695 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 6: at the door, you know what I mean, accept all 696 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 6: the help you can get. 697 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: That couldn't have been easy for you, because you said 698 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: it earlier when we were talking. You said, you do 699 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: things on your own. Nobody could check you, nobody could 700 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: tell you what to do. You do things the way 701 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: you want to do it. But now you're in a 702 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 2: position where you're completely vulnerable, where you can't take care 703 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: of yourself, where you have to lean on others. How 704 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: tough was that for somebody like you that's so used 705 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: to being independent and just being, like you said, this 706 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: big strong man, and now you need help from others. 707 00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: Man. 708 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 6: I got the best wife on the planet, and he 709 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 6: was my supports system. He was there every day at 710 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 6: the hospital with me, didn't miss the day, quite a job, 711 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 6: just though she can be with me, bade me clean me, 712 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 6: it's system me to go to the bathroom. I mean, 713 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 6: she was there every step of the way. And I'm 714 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 6: fortunate that I got that woman in my corner. 715 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: We all feel fortunate that she's there for you, man, 716 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean I feel fortunate just being able to sit 717 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: and talk to you today. 718 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: Man. 719 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: You look great, you sound great, And I appreciate the 720 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: vulnerability because I know these conversations aren't always easy, but 721 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: there's people going through the same thing that you went through. 722 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: There's people that are in it right now and that 723 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: are like feeling, Man, I might not ever get through this. 724 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: I might not be able to make it, but somebody 725 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: like you and your testimony and your honesty and your courage, 726 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: people could look at that and say, Okay, if Mike 727 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: can do it, I can do it. 728 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: Man. 729 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: So I really do appreciate you like talking about this 730 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: because again, it's something that happens to a lot of people. 731 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: You could be the healthiest, strongest man, just like yourself right. 732 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: And still go through these things. 733 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 4: Man. 734 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: And I know the transplant process isn't an easy process. 735 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: How long did it take for you to find that 736 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: donor to find that person to be able to help 737 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: you out. Man, What was that process like, Cause again, 738 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's plenty of other people going through that 739 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: same thing in real time. 740 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 4: Man. 741 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 6: I had to earn my heart in the sense man, 742 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 6: just the physical therapy stus I was doing. I was 743 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 6: going above and beyond, you know. I had to show 744 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 6: them that I wanted and I deserved it and just 745 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 6: never give up attitude. Man, doing what I had to do. 746 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 6: I didn't feel like getting up to go walk. I 747 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 6: had to go walk. If I had to go. Whatever 748 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 6: they wanted me to do, I did it, and so 749 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 6: I ended up they ended up. I worked so hard 750 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 6: they moved me up to the top of the transplant 751 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 6: list from a guy to just came in the hospital. 752 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 4: You know. 753 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 6: They moved me up to the top because they seen 754 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 6: how dedicated in the heart I worked. And it took 755 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 6: me nine days once they put me on the transplant list. 756 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 6: Took me nine days to find my heart. 757 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: Wow. 758 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: And during you said you were in a coma. 759 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: Was that during the process of getting the transplant or 760 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: did that happen before when they found out you needed it? 761 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 4: Well, I was. 762 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 6: I was in the hospital from the beginning of January 763 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 6: to then the May. 764 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: More. This is it this year? Is that of this 765 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: year or last year? 766 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? This year, this year, this year. 767 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 6: So you know, they were trying to find everywhere, every 768 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 6: way to not have me have a transplant. I mean, 769 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 6: I had impellers put in me, and I've had every 770 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 6: type of mechanical device put in me you could possibly 771 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 6: think of to save my heart so I didn't have 772 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 6: to have it. And they got to the point where 773 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 6: it just took a turn, and you know, they had 774 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 6: to put me under and I think it was in 775 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 6: a coma for nineteen days something like that. 776 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 2: And man, bro Man, you said you have the coma. 777 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: You say you flat lined a few times. Are you 778 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: aware of any of this while you're going through it? 779 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: Or is this just something you wake up one day 780 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: and people tell you all of this happened. 781 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: Did you have any awareness through all of this. 782 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 6: I don't remember most of my time at the hospital. 783 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 6: I really don't, and I mean I mean on all 784 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 6: kinds of stuff. I mean, it was bad. It was 785 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 6: worse for my wife because she's seen the decline in 786 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 6: me when I couldn't tell you know, she's seen all 787 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 6: the stuff I was going through when I was asleep. 788 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 6: I went through a bout of delirium where I mean 789 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 6: I thought people were trying to attack me. And I 790 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 6: mean I was swinging on nurses. I mean, it was 791 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 6: I mean, it was it was bad. I mean, and 792 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 6: when I came to, and that was cognizant of what 793 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 6: was going around me, you know, you know, and that 794 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 6: started when I was feeling better. My wife would tell 795 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 6: me some of the stuff that has happened, and you know, 796 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 6: I just as the time where I broke down and cried, 797 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 6: that's not the you know, I was swinging on lady 798 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 6: nurses and but I didn't know, you know, to me, 799 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 6: I thought I was being robbed, you know, I. 800 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 4: Mean, I had no clue. So but yeah, it's been crazy, bro, 801 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 4: it's been crazy. It's been crazy. 802 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: Well, Mike, I do hope you give yourself grace through 803 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 2: all of this, man, because I mean, clearly you weren't yourself, 804 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: and clearly you were going through things that I mean 805 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: a lot of people wouldn't even be able to make 806 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: it through. So you're just out there fighting and battling, man. 807 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: So I do hope you give yourself grace and I 808 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: know it's tough as a man when you hear things 809 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: like that, especially because that's so out of your character, 810 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: especially growing up military. I already know you probably grew 811 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: up just like I grew up. That kind of stuff 812 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 2: don't fly. So like, Man, I hope you do give 813 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: yourself grace because you know you're just going through this, man, 814 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: and nobody has a blueprint for how to get through 815 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 816 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: But somehow you found a way to get through. 817 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 4: Man. 818 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: You get your heart transplant. 819 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: You're in the hospital for months, but then you get out. 820 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: What was that part like for you, Mike, when you're 821 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: hearing these things now you know you're hearing what you've 822 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: been through, but now you're part of that recovery. 823 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: What was that part like for you? 824 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 4: Man? 825 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: How tough was that or was it something where you 826 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: were just grateful to just have another day on this earth? 827 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: Ollie above I mean first and foremost man, my kids, 828 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 4: my wife. 829 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 6: You know, I live for them, you know. In the 830 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 6: thought process of me not being around to raise my 831 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 6: kids and take care of my wife, man, its just 832 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 6: it's something I just couldn't fathom, you know. And you know, 833 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 6: now I get a chance to help people out. You know, 834 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 6: my speak on it actually got to keep teammates and 835 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 6: I won't say their names, but they're going through some 836 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 6: issues and they know what I've been through, and they've 837 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 6: called on me to ask what to expect and you know, 838 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 6: what should I do? 839 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 4: How you doing this? Like what helped you get through? 840 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 4: And I'm just a sounding boy. Man. 841 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 6: If I could reach out and touch anybody to help them, 842 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 6: to talk them through things or whatever, man, that's what 843 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to do. 844 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 4: Just trying to let people know. 845 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 6: Man, go get checked out, because you know, like I said, 846 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 6: I was the healthiest dude after playing football, you know, 847 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 6: and for this to happen, you know, they can't happen 848 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 6: to anybody, you know. 849 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm grateful. Man. 850 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 6: I say my blessings every morning I get a chance 851 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 6: to wake up, because every day is not given, you know, 852 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 6: So for me to wake up every day, I'm thankful. 853 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 6: You know, the life itself, things that are going in life. Man, 854 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 6: you know, I pay attention to things a lot more. 855 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 6: I see things a lot more. You know, stuff I 856 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 6: never paid attention to before. You know, I notice things, 857 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 6: you know, And I'm just grateful. And I'm a different 858 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 6: person now than I ever been. Just you know, I 859 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 6: got more patient. You know, life's to be short. Don't 860 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 6: pass things by too fast, you know, take time and 861 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 6: just kick back and observe and see things. You know, 862 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 6: And and that's all I've been doing, man, Just getting health. 863 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 6: My wife's been taking care of me, feed me good food, 864 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 6: getting me back healthy again, gating my way back, yes, sir, 865 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 6: and being around these kids. You know, I work at 866 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 6: one of the best schools in the in the world. 867 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 4: Period and can't nobody even argue with that. And I 868 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 4: get to coach some of the best. 869 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 6: High school athletes in the nation, So you know, you know, 870 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 6: coming back to work was a big healing factor for me. 871 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 4: Man. 872 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 6: Just to come back and get these kids where they 873 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 6: want to go and help them earn their goals and 874 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 6: achieve everything that they want to achieve in life. Man, 875 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 6: that's a that's my blessing. 876 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: Hey man, Mike Man, that is great man. 877 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: And your story is a blessing because again, your story alone, 878 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 2: of your testimony would help so many people going through 879 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: the same thing to see somebody like you that they've 880 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: probably looked up to since. 881 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: They was younger going through the same things. Man, I'm 882 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: sure it means a lot. 883 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure your former teammates, as you mentioned, means a 884 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 2: lot to them hearing from you. And now you're good man, 885 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 2: Now you're back healthy, like you said, you're coaching now man. 886 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 2: And where are you coaching at right now? You said 887 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: you have the best school. What was the name of it? 888 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 4: I'm at IMG down in Florida. 889 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, Ah, So you really you live? You live 890 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: in that good life. 891 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 4: Hey. 892 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 6: We don't want for much down here, man. We got 893 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 6: everything we need. We just trying to win national championships. 894 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir, and we love that. 895 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: And Mike, as you mentioned, you talked about people going 896 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: to get checked out and that early detection. How did 897 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: you find out that you were going to have these 898 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: heart problems? How did you get how did you detect that? 899 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 6: I just I was tired. I didn't have energy to 900 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 6: go to the gym. I just, you know, some just 901 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 6: didn't feel right. I couldn't go to sleep. When I 902 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 6: closed my eyes, I got like this dizzy sensation, like 903 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 6: I had to sleep sitting up, and I just some 904 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 6: weird stuff was just happening to me. And you know, 905 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 6: I don't ever go to the hospital. My wife will 906 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 6: tell you. You gotta tell me. Could have bumped a car 907 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 6: to get me to go to the hospital. And there 908 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 6: was this one day. I just looked at it and 909 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 6: I said, you know, I need to go to the hospital. 910 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 6: My wife looked at me like I was crazy, Like, 911 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 6: oh wait a minute, he saying he needed to go 912 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 6: to hospital. Something really going on. So and thank god 913 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 6: I did, because you know, I would have never known, 914 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 6: would have never known. And they told me I shouldn't 915 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 6: be here. I shouldn't, they said, Mike, if you hadn't 916 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 6: stayed in the shape that you were in, you you 917 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 6: would have been dead. Graceful God, man, I'm still here. 918 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 6: I'm still moving, I'm still coaching, I'm still doing everything 919 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 6: just to you know, just do guys. Grace man, I'm 920 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 6: I'm still moving, still getting on his kids nerves. 921 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: That God is so good. 922 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 2: And I think it's just a testimony to your job's 923 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: not finished here. 924 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: You still got work to do. 925 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 4: Man. 926 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: You go through all of those things flatline multiple times, man, 927 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: A coma the worst thing is a lot of things 928 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: that people would never be able to get through. But 929 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 2: you're still here, man, and you're still affecting lives. Mike, 930 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 2: so thank you so much, man for taking the time 931 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: to come and talk to us on Next Man Up. Man, 932 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: your story is so powerful and so impactful, and I 933 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: hope you know the amount of love and admiration you 934 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: have here in the DMV from your Burgundy and Gold family. 935 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 4: Man. 936 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: You are a redskin, one of the best at your position, 937 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 2: and we just appreciate you and love you. 938 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 4: Man. 939 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: We hope you come back to the DMV. 940 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 2: Hope you catch a game before the season is over, Man, 941 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: and just be around these folks, because I'm telling you, Man, 942 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: the DMV loves you so much and we're just so 943 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: happy that your back and healthy. And Brother, let me. 944 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: Tell you, man, I won't smoke. 945 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: You look good, Brother, You look good, Man, so like 946 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: if you wouldn't have told me what you had been through. 947 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: You do not look like what you have been through, man, 948 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 2: And that's a blessing in itself. Man, So thank you, Mike. 949 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate Yes, sir, Yes, sir, Man. 950 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: We have to have you back on MA have to 951 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 2: have you pull up to the studio, Mike, and good 952 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 2: luck for the rest of this season with your squad. 953 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 2: Bro all right, appreciates man, command is family. Our Next 954 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: man Up. The amazing, the honorable Mike Sellers. Thank you, 955 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 2: brother Command, this family. We hope you've enjoyed this special 956 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: episode of Next Man Up. If you want to catch 957 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: our old episodes of Next Man Up, you can on 958 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 2: the Commander's YouTube page, or you can stream the audio 959 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. I am Brian Coble Jun 960 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 2: and this is the Next Man Up Podcast. 961 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: I'll catch y'all next Friday. 962 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 4: Come on