1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: All right. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: He does a podcast, The Athletic Football Show NFL writer 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: at the Athletic as well. But Robert Mays, when I 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: first spotted him, it was his food spreadsheet as I 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: was coming in and out of Chicago. And he's humble 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to talk about it. But if 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: if you ever want to find out where to eat Chicago, 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: it is like a depth chart for food. It is 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure to meet you. We both now live 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: in Chicago, a great North American city, a great global city, 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: and the Bears and the Cubs dominate talk radio. 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: And here's my thing. 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: I made this argument that people can get divorced there 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're bad people. They can get remarried. Fit 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: tempo of personality matters. I'm going to argue that Ben 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: is Shanahan. He's on that spreadsheet. He's a timing instructure coach. 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if Caleb is a timing and structure quarterback. 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: So on the first drives it's magic. The further you 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: get away from the spreadsheet, it doesn't look right. It 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: is a It is a quarterback built to move, freelance 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: and add lib. 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: Robert. What if? 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: What if this weekend against an average cowboy defense, we 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: get a great first drive and more of the drek? 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Where do we go with this? 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: I was more encouraged by what he did on Sunday. 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Now guys can make make sure they might Mike work 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: doesn't work? Okay, go ahead, go ahead. 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: I think I was more encouraged by what I saw 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: on Sunday than you were after the first draft. I 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: think there were a lot of structural issues with the offense, 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: but were more of a problem than Caleb was. Even 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: beyond the first game, the run game, some of the 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: offensive line concerns. I think stylistically, I am not as 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: worry about it as you are, because I actually think 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: that Caleb has more similarities as a passer than to 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: Jared Goff than most people would think. They have very 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 4: whip like arms, They're really good attacking the intermediate area 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: of the field that you don't want them pushing the 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: ball down the field outside the numbers in a way 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: that jayohen Hurts or Jaden Daniels would. But when you 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: think about some of those outbreaking routes, routes over the 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: middle of the field, Caleb does throw those really well. 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: And the creation part is important, But the creation is 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 4: a breaking case from emergency thing. Even if you're Ben Johnson, 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, you're never going to be able 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 4: to scheme things properly all the time. And that's why 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: having a quarterback who can do something out of structure 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 4: is important because he makes you right when you're not right. 57 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: So I do think that there's a balance to be 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 4: found between asking guy to play in structure and then 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: allowing him to play outside of structure when some of 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: those structural things start breaking down. 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: And then there's the other young quarter back that won't 62 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: play this weekend. JJ McCarthy, I've said, I don't feel 63 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: Caleb is overwhelmed. It's more of a fit with JJ McCarthy, 64 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: and I was not a big fan coming out of college. 65 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: I said, I don't see it he's never played from behind. 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Harbaugh dominated that program. It was defense, run game. I 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: thought he looked overwhelmed. And they did want to re 68 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: sign Darnold. There was rumors they had Daniel Jones, there 69 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: was rumors about Aaron Kevin O'Connell is about as sharp 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: as they get, and seven of those eight quarters were 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, jarring. Do you think there's in the building 72 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: privately a little concerned on their first round quarterback. 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: I love what you said about JJM and not had 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: any play from behind at Michigan. They put him in 75 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: really advantageous situations. Yes, And that was the whole plan 76 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: in Minnesota, is that we can plug this guy in 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: and be okay because we've built so much strength around him. 78 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: That hasn't come to fruition in the first couple of 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: weeks because they've had injuries right the offensive line, the 80 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: left tackle being hurt for the first two games. 81 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Really seen that great left. 82 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: Tackle, very good left tackle, and now you're going to 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: a truly below average left tackle. And so this idea 84 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: that JJ is set up to succeed because the infrastructure 85 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 4: is so solid. The infrastructure hasn't been solid, and so 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: I don't think the first couple of weeks have done 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: anything to assuage concerns you would have about him coming in. 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 4: But I also think that the Vikings haven't been able 89 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: to make good on their end of the bargain so far. 90 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: I want to wait to see when the offensive line 91 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: is healthier, when the run game can be a little 92 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: bit better, and you take stuff off of his plate 93 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: and the way that you were planning to what does. 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy look like. 95 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: Then if we get to the back half of the season, 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 4: the offensive line is healthy, the run game is good, 97 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: and those four or five throws you're asking him to 98 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: make are still going awry, then I think we can 99 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 4: really get into causes for concern. 100 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: So when you live in Chicago, you are reminded as 101 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: I take the train that Green Bay's right up the road, 102 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: And I will make the argument that for the last 103 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: thirty years it's the best run organization. 104 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: Now. 105 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: I always looked at lack of ownership as a liability 106 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: for years and years that the Rams have somebody that 107 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: can go call Stan Kronky and say, I know you're 108 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: on the goalstream on the tarmac. We need Matt Stafford, 109 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: and the owner says, go for it. But as billionaires now, 110 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: as millionaires used to own the league, that firing a 111 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: coaching staff forty million dollar checks was a non starter. 112 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: It's not anymore. And so billionaires have become oligarchs have 113 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: become crazier, whether it's the tech guys, whether it's the 114 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: boys club in the NFL. And so the lack of 115 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: an owner actually allows patience that nobody else can have 116 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: in the league. And I look at green Bay's roster, 117 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Robert tight end, running back, defensive line. They moved off 118 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, good player, They're fine. I look at green 119 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: Bay right now, it's almost a flawless team. It reminds 120 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: me of Kansas City with Tyreek. Play from behind, play 121 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: with the lead, play aggressively, paying the right people. I've 122 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: said this, I don't think I don't think anybody right 123 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: now for the next three years is built like Green Bay. 124 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: Who gets credit. 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: It's a combination of the coaching staff and the front office. 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 4: I think what you said about the ownership is perfect 127 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 4: because you want to blend of methodical, patient, responsible decision making. 128 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: But when that moment is there for you to jump 129 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: on something, you still want to be able to do that. 130 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: And that's why the Michael Parsons trade, to me, would 131 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 4: be so encouraging. Fire or Packers fans like when they 132 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: know that there's something there to be had, they're going 133 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 4: after it, and so there's a roster strength overall. They've 134 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: been able to build so much depth because of how 135 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: patient they build the roster. But then you look at 136 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: the schematics of it. On both sides of the ball, 137 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: this is an extremely well coached, creative team. 138 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: Jeff Hafley has been a fine I. 139 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: Loved him last year because I thought he did such 140 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: a good job of tailoring the defense to his personnel. 141 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: They did not have very good corners last year, at 142 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: least unproven corners, and instead of playing a lot of man, 143 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 4: a lot of single high like he used to back 144 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: at Boston College and with the Niners, they played a 145 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: lot of cover two in order to hide some of 146 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 4: those players. 147 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: And I just think that shows. 148 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: Real awareness, what is my talent and how can I 149 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: get the most out of them. 150 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: Well, now as the talent. 151 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: Has started to really increase, including Micah Persons, those ideas 152 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: being able to deploy those guys in the right ways, 153 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: it's still happening. 154 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: The players are just better. 155 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: You Canbine Micah persons with real leaps from some of 156 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: the young guys kway Walker, Edriwin Cooper, Keishawn Nixon, who's 157 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: now in his second year as a corner. 158 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: He's getting better. 159 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: The incremental improvements you've needed from the youngest roster in 160 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: the league has happened. The coaching ideas are still very good, 161 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: and now you're starting to develop superstar level players. 162 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 3: When all those three. 163 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: Things are coming together at the same time, you're getting 164 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty. 165 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: Five packers so far. 166 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: So al Micha Goes threw a little shade at the 167 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: Eagles last night, saying not all great teams are fun 168 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: to watch, and everybody summarily knew what he was talking about. 169 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: Whereas the Bills are, I think America is kind of 170 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: rooting for the Buffalo Bills to and I know emotionally 171 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to root, but I kind of am. 172 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is fascinating. I like the Rams this weekend. I 173 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: think Jared Vers in that defensive front is a problem. 174 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: I think the last half of last year, post Thanksgiving out, 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was the most improved defense. Really fast, 176 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: young players when they get hurt, recover more quickly. It's 177 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: the Packers offense. Is the Rams defense not paid proven? 178 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Getting better? Philadelphia is an anomaly. They decided after the 179 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: bye last year, we're not gonna throw anymore, especially downfield. 180 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: Is it sustainable? It doesn't feel like it's built to 181 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: play from behind. It's just wild. In a pass first league, 182 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: they don't throw it downfield. I mean, don't you think 183 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: over the course of five weeks, seven weeks, nine weeks 184 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: that will be a liability. 185 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Eventually you have to be able to do a 186 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: little bit of everything. And it especially becomes a problem 187 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: when the run game is no longer as dynamic as 188 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: it was last year. And you're already seeing that and 189 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: Saiquon's averaging less than four yards of care? 190 00:08:59,240 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: Is he yes? 191 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 4: And the down to down efficiency he's below average right 192 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: now compared to running backs around the league. 193 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: Wow. 194 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of that is you're seeing 195 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: offensive line changes for them. The right guard Tyler Stein 196 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 4: takes over from Akai Beeck in this year. 197 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: He's had his issues. 198 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: Landon Dickersonate left guard clearly has not been healthy over 199 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: it for a couple of weeks, and the tight ends 200 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: on this team are not strong. Run Blockers, and I 201 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 4: think they've really run into some issues there as well. 202 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: So if you're going to be a team that doesn't 203 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 4: want to throw the ball down the field, you better 204 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: be the most explosive, dynamic running team in the league, 205 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: And through the first couple of weeks, they just really 206 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: haven't been that. 207 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 208 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: and neon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 209 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio Appy. 210 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 5: It's me Block Parker. 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I said this yesterday. 220 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: Everybody thought it was hyperbolic, and I said, folks, if 221 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: the NFL Hall of Fame was the basketball Hall of Fame, 222 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: where like a Globe Trotter and an official can make. 223 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: But football, Atlanta's got the College Hall of Fame, Canton's 224 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: got the Pro But like basketball, if you combine them, 225 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: I could argue Jim Harbaugh is the best coach ever. 226 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: He has taken five car recks except Stanford because and 227 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: there's some academic reasons why he was great. The next year, 228 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: all of them he leaves. They're all at has Matt 229 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: spill instantly. So it's not that you lose a good coach. 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Jimmy Johnson's a great coach to me, one 231 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: of the five best ever. He leaves, he built up 232 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: good personnel. The next coach come in takes Jimmy's players. 233 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: He's always a great personnel guy as a coach, and 234 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: they win. Jim leaves. It's man overboard. I find him 235 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: to be a remarkable guy. He's much more happier now 236 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: when you do at the athletic Robert. When you talk 237 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: about the Chargers and you talk about what he took over, 238 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: Herbert's even better. 239 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: How do people view him. 240 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he was likable seven or eight years ago, 241 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: even by Michigan people. 242 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: He was driving the ad crazy. How do people view 243 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: Harball in the league. 244 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: He's a force multiplayer. 245 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 4: He is able to get the most out of whatever 246 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: the roster talent looks like. And I think that you've 247 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: seen that consistently, and it's hard to know what the 248 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: secret sauce of that exactly is. 249 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: Right. 250 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: I went there last year and I spent two days 251 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: in the locker room talking to guys because I was 252 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 4: curious about this exact question, and the answers are kind 253 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: of all over the place too, that stick with me. 254 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 4: I asked Derwin James, I was like, what is culture 255 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: to you in the NFL? And he said, culture to 256 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: me is when you look at the logo, what do 257 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: you see what? 258 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: Derwin James said. 259 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: That that's really smart and I. 260 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: Thought that that was so. I' such astute point. 261 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: And I think with the Chargers now you're starting to 262 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 4: feel a certain identity when you watch them play. 263 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: That's really interesting. 264 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 4: And then Dyon Henley told me a story about how 265 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 4: they would go through even in OTAs and every single 266 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: player associated with the organization, coaches, players got up and 267 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: they said, why are you here right? 268 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: What brings you here? Why do you want to be good? 269 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: Why do you want to be great? 270 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: Why do you want to be successful, and every person 271 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: gave their answer in front of the entire team, And 272 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: so I think that there's just a real conscious how 273 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: do I build connective tissue in this building? How do 274 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: I make people feel invested? How do I get the 275 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 4: best out of them? And the best example of this 276 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: to me is what Justin Herbert has played like, because 277 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: when Justin Herbert played for Joe Lombardi in that old offense, 278 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: it always felt like he was a little tight yes right, 279 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: and there was just a roboticism to him and there 280 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: wasn't a looseness to the way that he played. And 281 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: you watch him the last couple of years when he 282 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: wasn't hurt last year, and then the first couple weeks 283 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 4: of this season, there's an aggressiveness. He's willing to run, 284 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: like Jim Harbaugh going up to him before the games 285 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: and shaking his shoulders and gassing him up. That may 286 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: seem silly, but I actually do think that there's a 287 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: purpose and a motivation behind that to get him to play. 288 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: I've always joked about it, I wish Justin was ten 289 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: percent dumber, and I honestly think he has played the 290 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: last year and a half like he's ten percent dumber, 291 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: and it's been to his benefit. 292 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: I think Jim's a big reason for that. 293 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: So we were saying that when I always think it's 294 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: funny with Brady. The minute Mahomes comes into the league. 295 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: People never wanted to love Brady because he was efficient 296 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: and it was pre snap, I mean Aaron Rodgers for years. 297 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: Aaron's better than Tom. I mean, Tom wins, but it's Belichick. 298 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: And then the minute Mahomes gets good, it's like, listen, 299 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: Tom's the system guy. Mahomes is the and I'm like, okay, whatever. 300 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: Then he goes to Tampa and wins, and that quiets down. 301 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's the best quarterback in the world right now, 302 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: and I know, and so I'm going to do this. 303 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: And Patrick's a wonderful guy. But I've watched the last 304 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: two years. In the history of quarterbacks, Luck Elway, Peyton, 305 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: if you have massive horsepower farv, you throw picks, like 306 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: if you can throw one oh one, you throw one 307 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: oh one. You don't throw the knuckler. Josh Allen has 308 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: had about a year. Here's an amazing stack. The Bills 309 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: have not lost the turnover battle in twenty five games, 310 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: and they have a v twelve for an engine. 311 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: I find what we're watching. 312 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: It's not validated through statistical precision like Hank Aaron surpassing Ruth. 313 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: But in terms of we're watching history, this horsepower and 314 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: no turnovers, Robert doesn't make sense. Andrew luck was brilliant. 315 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: He couldn't get the reckless out. Eli Manning brilliant, couldn't 316 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: get the reckless out. I'm watching. I'm watching this and 317 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, they're gonna win a super Bowl. They make 318 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: no mistakes, they never turn it over. I don't know. 319 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you have this encyclopedic knowledge of it, 320 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: but I don't think he has a flaw. 321 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: Right now, Absolutely not. 322 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: I don't know what it would be, because the turnover 323 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: is absolutely part of the decision making, was part of it, 324 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: and now even you've seen it happen in stages. And 325 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: so two years ago, in twenty twenty three, I thought 326 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: he actually had a quiet case to be the MVP, 327 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 4: even if the team's success wasn't there. He threw more 328 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: picks in twenty twenty three, but really was totally ramped 329 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: down was the amount of sacks he was taking. 330 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: He doesn't get sacked. And two years in a row. 331 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: The sack avoidance is incredible, and I think part of 332 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: that is the offensive line. Part of that is his elusiveness. 333 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 4: But where he's really made the most progress to me, 334 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: outside of the accuracy, which that's undeniable. So much work 335 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: has been done about how he worked on his mechanics 336 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: and been that story has been told. I think a 337 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: story that's been less told is that he has become 338 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: pre snap one of the best quarterbacks in the league. 339 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: I think it's him and Mahomes. 340 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: The Bills do such a great job of very subtly 341 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: offering him information before the play. We're going to nudge 342 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: the running back out in motion just a little bit 343 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: so you get half as step from the linebacker to 344 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: know whether he's coming. 345 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: And he's so smart. 346 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: That when you combine it with his athleticism and the 347 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: offensive line talent, he's not going to get sacked because 348 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: he has the answers to the test. 349 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: Before it even starts. 350 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: So you combine the mental horsepower with the physical horsepower 351 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: that we're seeing, and that has led to the Josh 352 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: Allen that you're watching right now if. 353 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: You're listening on our radio network. Four hundred plus affiliates, 354 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: His name is Robert Mays, writer at The Athletic has 355 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: the Athletic Football Show podcast. Obviously this is just great information. 356 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: I love this though. 357 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: One of the great advantages that you get to travel 358 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: around and go to locker rooms, and I will say, 359 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: I just hearing all this stuff is so much fun. 360 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: So finally, let's pivot back to Bears Cowboys. So I 361 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: think it's a shootout. I think it's wild. I think 362 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: it's incredibly fun. I do think Caleb gives me more 363 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: precision past the first drive. Dak Prescott, I cannot believe 364 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: how good he is. After a second sero, I literally 365 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: cannot believe how good he is. I'm going to put 366 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: you on the spot. What is the game? I'm not 367 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: a winner. What does the game look like? These are 368 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: not great defenses. 369 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: I think it looks like a shootout. I think it 370 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: looks like. 371 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: A lot of points because the Cowboys offense is rolling. 372 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: As somebody who's always believed in Dak Prescott, the last 373 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: two weeks have been a dream, not just because of 374 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 4: his play, but when I was frustrated with the Dallas 375 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 4: offense over the last few years, it always just felt 376 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 4: very static to me. 377 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: It was very spread out. 378 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: It was a very shotgun and you just can't play 379 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: that way unless you have truly elite dominant perimeter receivers. 380 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about just CD Lamp. 381 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: The two teams that could get away play that way 382 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 4: the Bengals and the Eagles because you got those two 383 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: guys and you just have horses on the outside. The 384 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: Cowboys never had that, and so I always wanted to 385 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 4: feel just to tick more dynamic, just league average play 386 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: action rate, league average motion rate, and get him one 387 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: more weapon. All of that has happened. Yeah, every single 388 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 4: one of those things has lined up. And now the 389 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott that always existed, the one that's aggressive, that 390 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: processes really well, you're still seeing that guy, but everything 391 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: else around him has led to a more explosive offense. 392 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: And so I think that is here to stay for 393 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: the most part, as long as Dallas stays healthy this year. 394 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: And I think the Dallas defense is going to be 395 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: a problem over the course of the year, and so 396 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: those games are going to include a lot of points. 397 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: I think this Sunday is one of them. 398 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: I think history is going to be very kind to 399 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is that he has had three coaches, none 400 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: of whom were wildly popular with the critics or the fans. 401 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: And every year with Dack you basically get a ninety 402 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: eight passer rating, thirty touchdowns, ten picks, sixty seven percent 403 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: completion percentage, unbelievable. In tangibles leadership, he went through the 404 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: pandemic BLM, you know in the state of Texas that 405 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: was controversial. It is, I said, I was never like 406 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: a huge Dak fan, but it's almost like a band 407 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: that you got as they age. You're like, or you know, 408 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: Robert Redford. I grew up with that, so I knew 409 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: all the president's men. But sometimes you'll go and when 410 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: a celebrity passes, you go to the YouTube and listen 411 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: to their music, or you go and look at their 412 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: IDM is IBM page or IDMB page, and you're like, 413 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: there are a lot of good movies. I look at 414 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott now and I'm like Brian Shott and I'm 415 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy. 416 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: He's going to get Hall of Fame votes. He is 417 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: going to get Hall of Fame votes, is he not. 418 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 4: I think he probably deserves it if he has five 419 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: more seasons like the one that we're watching right now, 420 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: or like the twenty twenty three season. Comparing it to 421 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 4: the music thing to me, like Dak is like Food Fighters, Right, 422 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: It's just this band that you never thought was the 423 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: best band, but they've been doing it for so long 424 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: at a pretty good clip. And Dave Grohl did it 425 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 4: with Nirvana, he did it with Food Fighters. He can 426 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: do it in different situations like Dak has been that. 427 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: You're never going to say Dak Prescott is the best 428 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: quarterback in the world, the same way you're never going 429 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: to say that Dave Growl is the best rock star 430 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: in the world. But there is a consistency in the 431 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: legitimacy for so long that you really can't deny it. 432 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: I thought I was good with analogies. Foo Fighters crushed. 433 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: That's the best. 434 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: It's the best connectivity I've ever heard on the show. 435 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: What a pleasure. Robert Mays lives in Chicago. Check him 436 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: out at the Athletic, which is absolutely worth every penny. 437 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to meet you. 438 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for having me and. 439 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: J Max Dubious picks next The Herd. Be sure to 440 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: catch live edition The Herd weekdays at noon. Easter not 441 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: a em Pacific. 442 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 6: Play the Fox Super six NFL Challenge. Download the Fox 443 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 6: Sports app and enter for a free shot to win 444 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 6: your share of ten thousand dollars. One of the questions 445 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 6: is which QB will have the most passing yards in 446 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 6: Week three? Colin, you got Dak Stafford Love or Baker? 447 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: Who you got Dak Prescott in a shootout against the Bear? 448 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to watch that game. That is fascinating. 449 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Dak throws for over two hundred and 450 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: seventy five yards. I think that's a good wager by you. Well, 451 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: it's Week three across the national football is it time 452 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: to panic for some teams? Who's on the rise, who's regressing? 453 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: We like to call it Tomorrow's headlines today, as j 454 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: Max predicts the headline we'll be reading on Monday. Let's 455 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: start Rams at the Eagles. 456 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's bust right into a column with the best 457 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 6: game on the board. Sunday, the defending Super Bowl champs 458 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 6: at home against the Rams. The headline will be Pookah 459 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 6: and rally. Philly can't go shot for shot with La. 460 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 6: I'm kind of with you on this. I think the 461 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 6: LA offense is just a little too high powered for Philly. 462 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 6: We haven't seen too much from the Eagles offensively yet. 463 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 6: Maybe there's an offensive coordinator issue or they're just playing 464 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 6: to their strengths. But there were some Lane Johnson comments today, 465 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 6: like literally in the last hour about this whole tush 466 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 6: push thing and how he knows that the penalty flags 467 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 6: are coming. I think if you remove that from the Eagles, 468 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 6: it changes the calculus of their offense. You can't just 469 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 6: go for Hey, let's get to third and short and 470 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: we've got two downs. 471 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: To get it. 472 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 6: Because I think the NFL is going to litigate it 473 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 6: a little stronger this week. I will say I mentioned 474 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 6: this earlier. The Rams seem like a public underdog this week. 475 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 6: Those are very dangerous. Eighty percent of the bets at 476 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 6: one shop in Vague has the fans on the Rams 477 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 6: at getting three and a half. Don't feel awesome about that, 478 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 6: but I'll take the Rams and their offense to cover 479 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 6: and pull the upset of the Eagles. 480 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Well, I'm still waiting for the first cam Ward w 481 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today Daniels Jones and the Colts at Tennessee. 482 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 6: You know, I'm a weirdo'clin I like these ugly, gross games. 483 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 6: I mean, this is nasty, but you can find an 484 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 6: edge in that because nobody's talking about it on TV 485 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 6: all day. The headline for this one will be smile 486 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 6: for the camera. Ward picture perfect in first win, Colin. 487 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 6: I've got this as a major upset. I've got in 488 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 6: the first win of the season for cam Ward. I 489 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 6: think they pull it off at home against the mighty 490 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 6: Colts and Daniel Jones. Everybody loves DJ Colin. I got 491 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 6: some great stats for you, so owen. Two underdogs, Okay, 492 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 6: going back the last fifteen years, nobody wants anything to 493 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 6: do with them because they look bad for two games 494 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 6: in a row in Week three, are hitting at sixty 495 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 6: six percent against the spread. Wow, because nobody wants to 496 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 6: bet them. I mean, this game should have probably been 497 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 6: like a pick them right if you're looking at the 498 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 6: summer line. Now you've got all of a sudden laying 499 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 6: numbers with the Colts on the road. The one injury 500 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 6: concern for the Titans I have is Sweat, the big 501 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 6: fella in the middle out of Tech Texas. He's been 502 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 6: great against the run. Hasn't practiced all week. They just 503 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 6: announced here in the last ten minutes. He's a game 504 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 6: time decision. That's not great because Jonathan Taylor has looked incredible. 505 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: I will say I love this. 506 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 6: Matchup also because it's it's two former Cincinnati guys. Brian Callahan, 507 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 6: who was with Burrow against Captain lou the defensive coordator. 508 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 6: I think big edge to Kim Warden company. Final number 509 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 6: for you, Colin, you'll like this Indy thirtieth in pressures 510 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 6: through two games. Okay, cam Ward has faced two brutal 511 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 6: defenses Denver at altitude and the rams they get after 512 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 6: the quarterback. The Colts they do not. I think cam 513 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 6: wod gets his first win. 514 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: I like that. Good pick. 515 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines to ye, you have been on this since Monday, 516 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: Falcons and literally lost a four to oh one k 517 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: multiple college kids education on the Falcons over the last 518 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: fifteen years. 519 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: What say you? 520 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 6: Well, let's go get everybody at jet Ski The headline 521 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 6: for Falcons Panthers will be working nine to five. Falcons 522 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 6: stand on business hours. I know you love stand on 523 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 6: business Colin. This is a Bijon Robinson special. He's gonna 524 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 6: go off. I mean this is a terrible Carolina run defense. 525 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 6: Cannot stop the run at all it's gonna be bijon 526 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 6: Tony Algier. I think they just ground and pound their 527 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 6: way to victory. And oh, by the way, okay, I 528 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 6: know everybody says, well, Bryce Young he cooked. 529 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: The Falcons last year. 530 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 6: Remember late in the season he was like wearing a 531 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 6: tuxedo in the pocket. The Falcons had no pass rush 532 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 6: through two weeks. Atlanta's pass rush one of the best. 533 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: In the league. 534 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 6: They invested heavily right two guys in the first round, 535 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 6: and then they went out and got Leonard Floyd. I 536 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 6: really like the f can Here, Colin, here's a fun 537 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 6: stat for you. The Carolina Panthers, the only team through 538 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 6: two weeks to lead for zero seconds, have not had 539 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 6: a lead at all this season. 540 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: Can't play from behind. 541 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 6: I think Atlanta wins is handling. 542 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: That we keep waiting. 543 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting about Bryce Young. There are moments, 544 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: there are halves, there are and they just can't put 545 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: it together. They just can't all right, This is one 546 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: of the games I like Tomorrows headlines today Saints the 547 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: Dome team cross country against Seattle, a team that has 548 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the second half defense against the Niners and 549 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: the Steelers was pretty redeemable by Seattle. 550 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: It was plucky. 551 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, consider the opponent. Obviously we don't 552 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 6: wear down on Aaron Rodgers, but the headline for Seahawks 553 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 6: Saints will be hiss poor performance. Rattler kept coiled by 554 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 6: circling Hawks. Now listen, I love this at seven. I 555 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 6: don't love it as much at seven and a half. Obviously, 556 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 6: seven a key number, but Colin Spencer Ratler oho to 557 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 6: eight as a starter. I haven't seen it. 558 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: Man. 559 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 6: If you look at his you know next gen stats, 560 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 6: has the passing charts, nothing down the field. He just 561 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 6: doesn't want to make mistakes, so he's doing quick short stuff. 562 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 6: Now he faces arguably the best secondary in the league 563 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 6: in Seattle. I think they eat him up at maybe 564 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 6: a one or two defensive touchdowns. If you've got the 565 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 6: Seahawks defense in fantasy, I can almost guarantee a victory 566 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 6: for you. This feels like a big Kenneth Walker game. Listen, 567 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 6: where are you on Darnold? It's still early in the season. 568 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: No, I don't think this organization is as good as 569 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota and Kevin O'Connell with play calling and play design. 570 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: But what they're asking Sam to do last year, Sam 571 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: was asked to carry a defense that I don't think. 572 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: I think this Seattle defense is special. I think this 573 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: run game is special. They're not asking Sam to do 574 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: things that can get Sam in trouble. They're not asking 575 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: him to throw thirty eight times a game. What they're 576 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: asking him to do is throw on play action, protect 577 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: the football and then And Sam's pretty good at this. 578 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: Three or four times a game, you're gonna get loose 579 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: and make a play. So I think Sam's always been 580 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: at his best when he's not asked to carry. He 581 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: is asked to athletically compliment an offense. 582 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: And I think it's a perfect fit for him. 583 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 6: I totally agree. 584 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: He's gonna keep it safe. 585 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 6: No, just don't turn the ball over, and Seattle should 586 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 6: coast do like a twenty eight to ten victory. 587 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: Yes, finally, Tomorrow's headlines today, listen to NFC teams at 588 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: Baltimore against Lamar usually is a recipe for an l Now. 589 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 6: I did get the Monday night game wrong last week. 590 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 6: I had Texans that one hurt man. Same here it 591 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 6: hurt and listen. I looked at your Cowboys Bears game. 592 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 6: I kind of wanted to take Dallas backed off, but 593 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 6: I'm going with Monday Night, the headline for Ravens Lions 594 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 6: will be turn your head and Goff Lions fail physical test. Colin. 595 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 6: I just I can't get out of my head the 596 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 6: vision of Detroit outdoors in week one looking slow and 597 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 6: plodding and the offensive line kind of crumbling, and then 598 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 6: they go home and they look incredible. I just don't 599 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 6: think they're the same team indoors versus outdoors. You know, 600 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 6: I know everybody's excited about Goff and Amara connected again 601 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 6: last week and they're back Colin again. This is a 602 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 6: totally different animal. The Ravens are one of the three 603 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 6: best teams in the league. The Bears there may be 604 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 6: one of the five worst. This is just a big 605 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 6: step up in class for Golf. I think pressure up 606 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 6: the middle will continue to rattle him. And I think, 607 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 6: like you said, Lamar Jackson's something like twenty four and 608 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 6: two against the NFC, I would not be surprised that 609 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 6: this was a big Derrek Henry Lamar Jackson ground game two. 610 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 6: And the last time they met outdoors a couple years ago, 611 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 6: Detroit was five and one. It was thirty five nothing 612 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 6: in the middle of the third quarter, got rolled. They 613 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 6: got a dumb trucks. 614 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: I also think I also think because the Bears are 615 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: such a high profile team right now because of the 616 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: Caleb story, that we're over valuing the Detroit win. Yes, 617 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: we're like, okay, this is the real team. They were 618 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: not competitive against the Packers, and I think we just 619 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: we have to look at the Bears right now as 620 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: an experiment more than anything. So I just take the 621 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: Bears game out and I don't know, I just I 622 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: look at this team. There's still two coordinators I question. 623 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: I question their defense and the middle of their offensive line. 624 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: Their run games not as viable, it's not as strong. 625 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: So I think this is a tough spot. I think 626 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: there are ways to beat Baltimore dominant time of possession, 627 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think they'll bring that to the table. Yeah, 628 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: totally agree. Good stuff today. We agree on let's see 629 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: hold on one three packs. I don't think we've ever 630 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: had three picks. 631 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 632 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: First of all, we've never had three of the same picks. 633 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: We've never agreed on three picks, so this is at first. 634 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 635 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 6: By the way, we talked earlier about Chargers Broncos. That 636 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 6: looks like it's headed toward three, you can't get the 637 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 6: normal rate. I think the Chargers are going to be 638 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 6: favorite by three. 639 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: That keep calling. 640 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 6: If did Chargers go three and zero in the division 641 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 6: to be short to start the season, that's a big 642 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 6: cushion with wins in your pocket over Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos. 643 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: I want you know what's remarkable about Chargers When they 644 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: lost for Sean Slater, I came on the other next day, lin, 645 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm like. 646 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 2: That's two L's Joe Alt. 647 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: He has been unbelievable and everybody wanted him to take 648 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: a receiver their season. 649 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 6: Neighbors was the guy. 650 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they went classic Carball. He's like, we're going 651 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: to move Joe all right, tackle to left. He's been 652 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: as good or better than Slater. He's not even he's 653 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: not even allowing a pressure. So yeah, as we're showing 654 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 1: our TV audience the schedule, listen, I'll tell you what's 655 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: going to get a huge rating, and I think it's going. 656 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: To be close and a lot of points. 657 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: The Cowboys Bears is going to get a monster number 658 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: as long as the game is close, and I think 659 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be. I had Eric Mangini, a former 660 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: NFL coach joining us and I talked about it. I said, 661 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing. Here's Dak on a second surgery 662 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: with Brian schottenheim Er George Pickens, And I said to Eric, like, 663 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: you always get the same Dak here he is. 664 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: It's year after year of drama and dysfunction and and 665 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 7: and everything that goes into sort of Jerry's uh, Jerry's world, 666 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 7: but but Dak's not part of that. And I've I've 667 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 7: been so impressed by Dak these first two games. He's 668 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 7: the highest paid player right now in the league, and 669 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 7: and he actually looked like he deserved that distinction over 670 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 7: the last two games. And there's not been many times 671 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 7: where I could have said that about Dak. 672 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 673 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: No, I It's like, you know, Josh Allen signed a 674 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: team friendly deal. Dak didn't necessarily, So there's there are 675 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: there's always repercussions, uh, when you have a quarterback that 676 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: doesn't take necessarily a team friendly deal. And and so 677 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: you can't get Derek Henry like the Cowboys needed last year. 678 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: But Javonte Williams has been a nice pickup. George Pickens 679 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: through two games, not a lot of drama, Ceedee Lamb's fantastic. 680 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys O line, Tyler Smith and company 681 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: have been a pleasant surprise. I think the old line's 682 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: been good. So, I mean, you can score your way 683 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. You're not gonna win a lot of 684 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: playoff games if you're bad defensively, but you can score 685 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: your way to making the playoffs. We've seen, you know, 686 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: we've seen teams do that through the years. Cincinnati, you know, 687 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: with Burrow. But I mean at some point you do 688 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: have to play defense. I mean last year Burrow didn't 689 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: make the playoffs despite being arguably the best quarterback in 690 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: the league. So I think to beat the great teams, 691 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: especially on the road, you've got to be able to 692 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: make stops. 693 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if Dallas can, but they are. To me. 694 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: The two surprises in the league have been Daniel Jones 695 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: at quarterback for the Colts. That's been surprising and Dallas overall. 696 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: I thought this coaching staff, I thought this thing would unravel. 697 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: I think I said it. I could see it unraveling 698 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: by week five or six. They should be to and 699 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: Ho should have beaten Philadelphia in Philadelphia should have all right. 700 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Eric Mangini, Robert Mays a good show today, Blazing five, 701 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: all sorts of good stuff. 702 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: Have a good weekend. 703 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: From good college football tomorrow as well, USC Michigan State 704 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: game sniffing three and oh four and h