WEBVTT - Episode 7: Abhorrent Behavior 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:07.880 School of Humans. This show follows the investigation of serial 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:12.920 murders and contains material that may be disturbing. Listener discretion advised. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.560 In late December of twenty fifteen, LaRue Stein made a 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.680 call to Discovery Life Insurance inquiring about a payout due 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:29.600 to his aunt, Cecilia Stein. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.800 Thank you so much for holding for me, Luro. I 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.600 am waiting in the system to generate the claim number 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.120 for us maker. I'm going to also need your. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:48.080 E After Michaela's death, Zach Valentine received five hundred thousand 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.760 rand or twenty seven four hundred and seventy US dollars 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:56.200 from her life insurance policy. Cecilia, recognizing this as a 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.600 potential way to make a lot of fast money, ensured 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.760 that she was named as Zach's soul beneficiary. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.600 Did he have any kids or one? 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.240 He didn't have kids, and his wife was quite nice. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.120 Actually we knew her quite well as well. But a 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.280 few years ago they broke into the house and said 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.280 that she was there and she got murdered as well. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:24.319 Oh my gosh, say man. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.760 The insurance agent then askel Rue if Zach was his 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.880 best friend, Well, basically. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.400 I've known him since I was basically twelve years old, 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.720 and we did create it together. We went fishing together, 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.200 we did together. I didn't have a follow in my 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.720 life or a big brother, so he was maybe a 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.640 big brother as a father and everything he was and 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.880 he's the only my own old model in my life. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.040 So I just turned twenty the other day. I mean, 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:58.560 we did everything together, man, That's why we were really close. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.160 And that's why he said, if anything happen, make sure 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.920 his mom is okay, he's cats okay, his family everything 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:05.880 sort out. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:09.799 And what's your mom's name. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:16.919 My mom's plame is Miranda Arenda. And my aunt's name 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.280 whose nine him? Since you was basically seven years old, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:21.480 Cecilia status. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.280 I see, So I'll forward it through to the broker. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.920 You're more than welcome to contact the broker if you 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.480 want to deal with it, and you can get a 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.880 little of racharity from the beneficiary. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:38.200 The rue tells the insurance agent that the beneficiary is 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.000 right there with us. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.240 Yeah, the room, but she's like, she really devastated. Must 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.280 I give her the phone by any jones? 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.200 Okay, you can. If she can agree for me to 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.080 send the requirements through to you, then that will be fine. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.080 I won't need to send it to the broker. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:03:02.120 Okay, just give me a sure he's the agreement. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:07.280 For I don't know about you, but to me, those 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.600 sound like real tears. It would make sense after all 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.720 the rue had been through that lies or not, he 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.600 was genuinely distraught. He put Cecilia Stein on the line. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:24.359 Ill, Hi am speaking sill she lasteyn Cecilia, please, can 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.800 you come from your ID for me? Okay, it's uh, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:34.680 that's not I don't know what it means, you know. Okay, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.720 can you just give me such hard No problem. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.720 Cecilia sobs into the phone for a while, and then 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.160 returns and gives the agent her idea number. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.680 Thank you so much, Cecilia. Okay, can you just come 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.520 from and re reside for me over the phone if 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.680 it's took care for me to send the requirements to 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:54.960 the ruse email. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:04:01.520 Address used to work with doc I Discoveries. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:06.480 Only two thousands, Okay, no problem, Thank you very much, 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.200 and I'm very sorry for you last day. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:09.280 Thank you very much. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:10.160 Pleasure. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.680 Okay, bye bye. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.800 The responsibility of claiming this payout was now in the 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:21.400 hands of a twenty year old LaRue Stein from School 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.120 of Humans and iHeart podcasts. This is Queen Havoc and 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:33.599 her murder Cult. I'm your host, Kurt Koubachak, Episode seven, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.120 Abhorrent Behavior. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:39.080 This is so good. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.719 It's a warm winter day here in Johannesburg. Journalist Jana 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.280 Marx invited us over to enjoy a traditional South African 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:52.040 bride a gathering outdoors. Yanna makes us feel right at home. 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.680 The flames of the fire, look at the meat on 0:04:54.720 --> 0:05:00.240 the grill, several different meats season with Paprika, cloves, brown show, bugger, 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:05.000 and honey. The aromas are new, but familiar and wonderfully inviting. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.479 As we dig into the bride, we discussed possibly heading 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.760 out to downtown Joe Burt to one of the biggest 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.760 sports matches in the country to watch the spring Box 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:20.480 play rugby. After lunch, we dive into more details of 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:25.320 the case involving Joan and Peter Meyer. This double homicide 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.400 is the first of what would become known as the 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:29.360 Appointment murders. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.000 It could have been me and you. They were doing 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.919 regular jobs, showing up for appointment and they were killed. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.680 The Krugersdorp Killings is an umbrella title given to all 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.320 the murders carried out by Electus Perdaeis. But there were 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.280 two waves. The revenge killings aimed at Ria Grunewald that 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:54.159 took place in twenty twelve, and then the appointment murders 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:58.200 seven killings that occurred between November of twenty fifteen and 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:02.760 June of two thousand and six. Team these happened in 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:08.159 such quick succession that Krugersdorp was once again consumed by fear. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.320 Investigative journalist Maritzka kots Here lived in the area at 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.880 the time and covered this second wave of homicides. You know, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.479 it was scary because you didn't know who the killers were. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.520 You know, you think a serial killer, but what does 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:22.680 a serial killer look like? 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.200 It can be anyone around us. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.120 Reflecting on the case files, detective Ben Boyson thought the 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.679 murder of Joan and Peter Meyer looked like a classic 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:36.240 robbery gone wrong, but the seasoned detective kept turning over 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:36.880 the facts. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.719 I think Cecilia told him that it must be a robbery. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.239 But I think at the end of the day, Marenda 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.680 and Zack by himself decided, no, we're going to get 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.280 this ten million run from his house and then. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:51.279 We're going to kill them. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.919 Because if you go and rob somebody, you cover your face. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.920 By this logic, no mass were necessary for Mirenda and Zach. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.560 While Cecilia she may have forgiven this betrayal of her orders, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.640 she had not forgotten it. If Zach Valentine had come 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.719 back to her with millions of rants instead of a 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.080 measly forty or so bucks, she might have let it slide. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.600 The plan was to go rob them, and then the 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.560 robbery became a murder. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.800 The fact that Zach killed them. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.400 Angered even more, because that was never part of a plan. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.720 Because of this epic failure by Zach, Cecilia shifted her 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:34.320 strategy for fattening her and epd's coffers. To do that, 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.880 EPD would have to be more loyal than vengeful, more 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:42.720 brains and less blood. Zach's life insurance policy was worth 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:47.600 three point five million Rand roughly two hundred thousand US dollars. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.840 That would go a long way, and thus they'd all agreed. 0:07:52.560 --> 0:08:00.160 Zach concluded he needed to die, except not really. As 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.840 long as the cops and insurance company never caught on. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.960 Zach was worth a lot more dead than alive. All 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.800 they needed now was a corpse and a fool proof 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:16.440 hiding spot. Jared Jackson was a forty one year old 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:21.080 street vendor. Jared and his partner Candace, both struggled with addiction. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:26.160 To make money, they sold snacks outside the hospital, the 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:31.240 one across the street from Casana Flats. Here's detective Ben Boysen. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.760 So they befriend it Garret because he was a homeless 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.640 guy and who's going to miss only his golfriend and 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.400 they were both sleeping on the street. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.920 Unfortunately, to Cecilia, Jared was someone the cops overwhelmed as 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.560 they were probably wouldn't spend too much time looking for. Also, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.640 he and Zach could easily be mistaken for one another, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.080 especially from far away. But there was one person who 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:04.720 would never mistake Jared for anyone else, his fiance, Candace Ellison. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.000 She sat for an interview broadcast on jack Randa FM 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.679 in February of twenty twenty two. She reflected a bit 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:13.880 on what came. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:20.040 Before growing up in difficult household, getting into drugs to survive, 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:24.240 and thinking that was the answer every bad, horrible story 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.679 you hear. I've pretty much loved. 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.520 It, but then she met Jared. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.920 Girls are raised to look for their prince charming, and 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.480 it's something that I did constantly trying to find that 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.320 beautiful moment, and I met Jared and we had beautiful moments. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.080 And we also went to hell together quite literally on 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:50.120 the street heroin addicts, and it was not something I 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.640 would put my worst enemy through. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.000 But in twenty fifteen, Candace was pregnant and the couple 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.840 was actively trying to find a path toward as sober, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.559 healthy life. That's when they met Cecilia Steine. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.600 He met Cecilia and the whole group, Zaka and Marinda 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.800 and all of them. And at the time, I remember thinking, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:15.040 all these people are a little bit off, but they 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.560 seem to really care, they want to help. And it's 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.760 only afterwards that I realized that we were being groomed. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:35.080 Throughout the winter of twenty fifteen, Cecilia conditioned Jared Jackson 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.520 and his fiance Candice Ellison to think that she was 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.400 someone who really cared about them and wanted to help. 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.440 Keep in mind, the seasons in South Africa are the 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:49.800 opposite of those in the States. First, she hired Jared 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.800 to sort through her storage room. She said he could 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.000 take whatever he liked and sell it if he got 0:10:55.120 --> 0:11:00.040 rid of everything else for her. Later Cecilia offered the 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.000 room to Jared and candas as a place to crash. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.360 There was no running water, and at night they would 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.160 have to be locked inside the tiny space so that 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.320 the other residents wouldn't get suspicious. But they needed the help, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.120 and the couple was grateful. After all, it was cold 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.400 outside and at least they had each other. They were 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:26.920 off the streets and in love. Then one day the 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:31.320 following summer, on December sixteenth, twenty fifteen, he. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.600 Walked out the door, looked back and said, just remember 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.240 I will always love you. And at the time I 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.679 was like, oh yeah, just just go come back just now, 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.440 not realizing what a moment that that would be the 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:43.200 last moment. 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.720 Zach and Cecilia made a point to run into Jared 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.800 that day. They said they needed his help with something 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.560 out of town. Cecilia lied and told him Zach was 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:59.760 epileptic and unable to drive alone. They appealed to Jared's 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.960 good nature and asked him to help. She'd been so 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.040 good to him and Candace after all, and they could 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.920 even advance him one hundred rand. Jared broke and, indebted 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:18.760 to Cecilia, agreed. That was at four thirty pm. By nightfall, 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:20.240 Candace got. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:24.200 Worried Jared didn't come home, which was totally unlike him. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.000 He didn't stray very far. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.520 When Jared still wasn't back by morning, Candace knew something 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:37.000 was terribly wrong. She tried calling Cecilia but got no response, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.760 so she walked over to Casana Flats. Cecilia came to 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.800 the door when she saw Candace standing there. Cecilia's face 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:52.840 changed suddenly. She was in tears, sobbing while she explained 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.480 that Zach had been in an accident. He had a 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.560 seizure while he was driving, and he was now in 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:02.560 a coma cannas fell part. She assumed Jared must have 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.640 been in the car with Zack, but Cecilia reassured Candace 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.559 that Jared had bailed on the trip altogether. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.600 I went to Cecilia's house, knowing that he'd gone there, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.120 and she was like, nope, I never saw him. He 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:16.720 never came. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.880 Meanwhile, the charred wreckage of a silver BMW was discovered 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.080 tucked into the tall grassland off to the side of 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.199 the road in petrus Stein, a little over two hours 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:38.720 south of Krueger'sdorp, burned beyond recognition. Officers found no skid marks, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.520 no broken glass, no signs of a collision of any kind. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.720 But inside they found a body. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.160 He was found in a car with a pipe through 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:57.680 the exhaust, and then the pulice said, okay, he committed suicide. 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:04.319 The previous afternoon, Zach drove the BMW that same car, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.080 which was due to be repossessed by the bank, with 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:11.359 Jared there in the passenger seat, LaRue just behind him. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.040 It's not hard to imagine them when ripping through the 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:19.000 windows and a South African summer evening, Jared squinting in 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.400 the dusty light, turning inward as they leave the city limits. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:27.320 The way a long car ride urges reflection from the 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.360 back seat. LaRue hands Jared a mango juice he packed 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:34.520 for the drive. Jared drinks it down quickly. As the 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.120 minutes pass with the setting sun, it can't stay awake, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:44.640 sleeping pills again. LaRue slowly unravels blue and red twine 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:50.320 from a spool. With one quick move, he sits forward 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.480 and loops the twine around Jared's throat there in the 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:57.520 seat in front of him. Jared struggles, He flails, He 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.480 kicks the dashboard, fighting for his life, but without air. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:06.800 He can't fight for long. As Jared thrashes, Zak almost 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:11.560 loses control. The silver BMW swerves across the lane. In 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:19.000 the car behind them, Mirinda and John Barnard follow. A 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:23.440 few jagged moments pass Zach's car slows and pulls off 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.560 to the side of the road. That's their signal, Jared 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:38.040 Jackson is dead. They prop his lifeless body up behind 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.120 the wheel. Zak plants his phone on the passenger seat, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.840 evidence to be found. Next, John and LaRue loop a 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.560 hose from the car's exhaust pipe and feed it into 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.960 the front window. They pour paraffin wax on the car 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.800 and push the BMW through the grass toward the tree line. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:01.200 A match is thrown, the car goes up. It burns 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.760 bright and hot, a blossom of flames against the dark 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.040 as the three men stare at the fire, licking the 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.600 Knight's air. Jared's body will be of little use to 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.440 any investigator, or so they hoped. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.480 You couldn't even see that it's a human being. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.120 It's like a piece of an animal that was burnt 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.040 in a feltfire. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.080 Now they had a body. Next, it was time to 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.480 make the reel. Zach Valentine disappear. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.480 When they killed Tedet, they brought Zach to this hotel, 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:35.960 de Ahrabert Hotel. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.280 So this is the first place where he was hiding. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.960 The next morning, while Candace searched for Jared, Marinda called 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.440 the officer who had been investigating the Meyer murders. She 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:50.800 contacted him on his private cell phone number. She explained 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.840 in a quivering voice that Zach died the previous night. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.320 He would not be taking his polygraph tests later that month. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.800 Mirinda also requested that her own tests be postponed to 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:07.480 January seventh, twenty sixteen, three weeks away. The officer agreed 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.000 to the rescheduling, but was then quickly consumed by the 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.440 constant barrage of other present cases. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.680 After Zach died, and actually got so much cases that 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:18.000 the guys went cold. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:19.840 The last entry in that. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.640 Murder was in January twenty sixteen, and I took over 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.480 in June July twenty to sixteen, So from January till 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.960 that time nothing happened. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.480 On that case. By now, Mirinda felt she was a 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.080 pro at evading law enforcement. Lucky for the people of 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.719 Kruger's Door, Discovery Life insurance was far more thorough than 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.719 the police less overwhelmed and trained to sniff out fraud. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.040 That same morning, after successfully shaking the police off their trail, 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.600 Mirinda traveled out of town to the morgue to identify 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.560 Zach Valentine's dead body. This was the first step in 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.240 the process of claiming his life insurance policy. She posed 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.840 as his sister, and she brought along a friend. Remember 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.960 Cecilia's husband Drees. The cop well his brother in law 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:18.040 tagged along and posed as Mirenda's husband. A seemingly suspect ruse, 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:22.600 but will keep going. According to Detective Ben and Colonel 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:26.240 Christelle Boysen, the four couple allegedly made a shady deal 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.760 with the coroner in charge of Jared Jackson's burned up body. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:35.200 Even the mortuary official that allowed this identification. They paid 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.800 off because we will never accept an identification like this 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.879 to say this is my brother. There has to be 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.320 DNA taken to say this is my DNA, this is 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:45.440 my brother's DNA. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.200 The two seasoned officers told us that typically the mortuary 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:53.199 official must provide a written statement confirming the identity of 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.280 a body. This process is supposed to be done under 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.880 oath in the presence of a law enforcement official. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.440 She took a statement from them, and then she owtho 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:07.800 statement her self, using another police officer's signature, defrauding it. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.720 Now armed with doctored paperwork, Marinda had it straight to 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.479 the funeral home. She requested they handle the cremation as 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:20.760 soon as possible. To do so required written permission from 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.720 next of kin in this case, Zach's parents. Thrown by 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.240 this surprise, Mirinda and her fake husband agreed to return 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:33.240 the following day with the written permission along with payment. Cecilia, 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.600 in the meantime, was on damage control. Working from the 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:41.919 safety of Cassana Flats. She placated a frantic Canvae, still 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.160 searching for her fiance. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.680 She said, I'll help you. Look, I'll contact the morgue, 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.879 I will contact the hospitals. And she seemed genuinely of 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.840 said she was going to help me look, and then 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:57.359 that she even obviously we were still really struggling. She 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.720 gave me fifty rand. She said, here, go get something 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.160 to eat. I'll let you know if I hear anything. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:07.959 Unfortunately, the appointment murders would continue to stain Krugersdorp with blood, 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.600 while Discovery Life Insurance stalled on the Zach Valentine payout. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.520 The company eventually conducted their own investigation, which included a 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:21.600 house call an in person interview with the beneficiary. Cecilia 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.680 had been preparing for this role her entire life. 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.800 Wayzy's wife. She died three years ago. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.159 The insurance investigation conducted by Discovery Life was recorded on video. 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:47.200 The assessors wore body cams to preserve evidence, safeguard themselves, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.800 and confirm the validity of the claim. In matters of 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.960 grief and money, emotions run high, and beloved or even 0:20:55.119 --> 0:21:01.520 estranged relatives may act erratically. The audio we're going to 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.520 share with you now is pulled from the shaky video 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.600 of Cecilia's interview with these representatives. It starts as the 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.160 insurance agents enter Cecilia's apartment. 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:12.720 Hello. 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.960 There are quite a few things that stand out about 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:34.440 this initial impression of Cassana Flats. First and foremost, it's 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.800 the noise. There is a din that surrounds and penetrates 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:42.119 Casana Flats. There's the swinging of rusted iron and steel 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:46.240 slamming against metal framed doorways. The city bus and cars 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.199 rush by, not to mention the hospital directly across the street, 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.399 Sirens racing to and from the er, it's all a 0:21:54.400 --> 0:22:03.399 bit maddening. An app soundtrack to Cecilia's chaotic world. Cecilia 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.679 settles in for the interview. She centers herself on the couch, 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.480 a bit of a man spread. She looks quite at ease, 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.320 But the tell for us is that the whole time 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.480 she has a baseball cap pulled down low just over 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.960 her spectacled eyes. She is in the center of the frame. 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:24.440 The assessors sit directly across from Cecilia. The interviewer is 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.760 the one wearing the body cam, so his voice is 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:30.240 often louder than Cecilia's. His colleague is in the room 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.880 off camera. He does all the talking and cuts right 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:37.400 to the heart of the matter, Cecilia's relationship with Zach. 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:43.440 Okay, you know him quite well. Okay, obviously that's why 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:48.199 you us beneficiary was still married to his wife. 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:52.960 So in case you miss that, she says, quote, I 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.600 was his beneficiary when he was still married to his wife. 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.359 It sounds like she's boasting here, and the interviewer calls 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:00.840 her on it. 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.240 Any specific reason that just sounds odd. 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:07.800 Sorry, no, no, no, he had that before he got 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:08.760 married and. 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:10.720 I never changed it. 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:14.120 Okay, strange that she felt the need to even mention 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:18.160 that fact. Right, of course, they continue to inquire about 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.280 Mikayla and his wife. 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:25.359 WA's wife she died four years ago. Okay, and he 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:26.360 never got remarried. 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.359 No, okay, alright? 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:29.679 And did they have any children. 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.520 Cecilia mumbles something about Zach's diabetes and how he didn't 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:38.560 want kids because of his condition. The investigator presses on. 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:41.720 Did something bad happen to his wife or something? Yeah, 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.800 and they broke into the house and. 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:46.280 She got killed. 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:51.959 F It's hard to hear, but she explains that Zach's 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.760 wife died during a home invasion. She also tells him 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.879 Michaela wasn't supposed to be home that day, which is 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:03.000 creepy because, if you remember correctly, Mikayla died on a Thursday, 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.280 the day she typically missed work to care for Cecilia. 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:12.800 After this strange exchange, the insurance examiner refocuses his line 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:13.880 of questioning. 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:18.240 Mister Valent Andymnifad just referred toim as Zach post On 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:22.359 the sixteenth of December last year in pietr Stein, in 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.840 the freestyle from a car accident to Corburnt. 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.120 They go over what all happened on the day Zach died, 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.200 and ask about who Zach was in the eyes of 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:37.000 his apparent closest friend. The agent wonders about Zach's likes 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.639 and dislikes, his relationship to money, and even his mental 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.680 and physical health. At this point, LaRue had entered the room. 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.040 He sits perched on the arm of the couch almost 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.160 out a frame on the right side. The insurance examiner 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.160 asks if Zach ever had trouble with the law, any 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:56.680 conflict with the law. 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:02.840 I'm using the one that gets. 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:08.399 Stuff I shouldn't be doing anything, LaRue says, quote, No, 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.280 I'm usually the one that gets caught by the law 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.280 doing stuff I shouldn't be doing. Then he tells about 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.000 how he was shot when someone tried to rob him 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:21.440 at gunpoint. Cecilia backs him up, saying, yeah, they tried 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.440 to rob him. Laru doesn't want to say where he 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:38.200 was wounded, but Cecilia is a bully about it. She's 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.480 poking fun at him. They both know the truth. Laru 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.720 accidentally shot himself in the groin while preparing the guns 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.560 for the Meyer murders. He boasted the mail insurance investigator 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:52.600 about how he had defended himself, and how he thought 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:55.480 the gun the robbers had was a toy, because get this, 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.280 his father has tons of big guns. 0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:00.960 I should die down to the floor. 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.160