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Speaker 1: right with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 5: It is Monday, September twenty second, twenty twenty five, Season

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Speaker 5: twenty one, Episode number forty two.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 4: Today we break down Cowboy.

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Speaker 5: He's lost Yesterday they lose in Chicago thirty one to fourteen,

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Speaker 5: a game that had some some interesting things on the field,

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Speaker 5: but also a couple of injuries, or at least a

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Speaker 5: injury that would certainly I think inhibited what they were

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Speaker 5: able to do yesterday, and we'll see how long that

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Speaker 5: will last. I got my crew here today. Let's dive

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Speaker 5: in Cowboys lose thirty one to fourteen. What was the

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Speaker 5: overarching storyline of the game.

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Speaker 6: Wotch.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with you and.

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Speaker 7: By you show you don't want to go first and

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Speaker 7: point in advice and be like ha ha.

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Speaker 8: Ha, how do we won? I can make fun like, hey,

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Speaker 8: yeah there was, but right now I'm not in a

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Speaker 8: joking in a joking mood right now, of course this

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Speaker 8: is this is bad.

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Speaker 7: Execution is the theme of this thing, mister Hugson, whether

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Speaker 7: it be on offense, whether it be defense, you getting

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Speaker 7: the reds on a whole bunch. You gotta be able

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Speaker 7: to finish middle eight. Hit you again four minutes right

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Speaker 7: before the half, four minutes after I think you had

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Speaker 7: an opportunity to score twice in there, four minutes right

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Speaker 7: before you could have got a touch down the field.

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Speaker 7: Go and got the ball back and try to score again.

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Speaker 7: But execution, defense. We're gonna have a lot of time

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Speaker 7: to talk about it. But just right now, large picture execution.

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Speaker 7: I think I heard the player say that communication was

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Speaker 3: Execution.

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Speaker 7: Knowing what you're doing being his zonne player versus man

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Speaker 6: Up so.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's still early in the season, but at the

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Speaker 8: same time, I'm just having a hard time thinking how

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Speaker 8: you can actually improve this team on defense, specifically, how

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Speaker 8: can you improve on defense for the remainder of the season.

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Speaker 8: I know we have still many many weeks left and

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Speaker 8: a lot of football to play, but do you actually

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Speaker 8: Is the voice that's leading that group, the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Is there?

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Speaker 8: Like how much wiggle room do you give him? What

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Speaker 8: is the limit here? Knowing that this is a and

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Speaker 8: this is what I'm struggling with. We know this is

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Speaker 8: a new coaching staff here with the Cowboys, but we

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Speaker 8: know how how would you say this? Like, you don't

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Speaker 8: have a lot of room because of the amount of

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Speaker 8: pressure that continues to build. You must exactly and it's

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Speaker 8: not your fault. It's just like what the Cowboys history

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Speaker 8: brings to this point. So it's just at what point

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Speaker 8: do you decide to make any big changes? Because honestly, yes,

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Speaker 8: three weeks in, it's still early. It's still early. But

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Speaker 8: at the same time, there's no patience there. And what

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Speaker 8: If anything, you left that game hurt with key players

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Speaker 8: For the defense, specifically.

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Speaker 2: This offense was it's what it needed to do. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I gave him third. I thought it was put off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, I think you're right about that. But

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Speaker 2: to me, we all knew that there was a capability

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked about Roman dounesday. They didn't really

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Speaker 2: I'm going to focus on what they didn't do on offense.

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Speaker 2: the offense lost you a football game is because I

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Speaker 2: good enough. We do. We know that as Cowboy fans.

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Speaker 2: There is a big time struggle. When you watch this

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Speaker 2: Am I blaming on some pass rush problems they have. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: these are the kinds of things that this offense can't have.

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Speaker 2: The defense isn't good enough. I'm not gonna even talk

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Speaker 2: you can talk about this team. This team is only

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Speaker 2: I just don't see it right now. I just don't

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, it was clear to me, Brian last week, after

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Speaker 4: If they don't, they get a stop.

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Speaker 5: If they don't, you got to exactly, you're gonna have

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Speaker 5: the defense. They gave up a lot of yards, a

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Speaker 5: least for now what we've seen, it suggests that's going

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Speaker 5: And if that's the case now, it puts a ton

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Speaker 5: What you're gonna do now and they don't have another

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Speaker 5: that being said, if their offense isn't able to really

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Speaker 5: to outscore the opponent, it's just that they're gonna have

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Speaker 8: Well, again, we talked about this yesterday, Derek. The scariest

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Speaker 8: this half of the season is supposed to be quote

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Speaker 8: oh my god, how do how do we fix this?

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Speaker 2: Well, you hope that maybe you get some guys back, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: There's a situation where DJ Moore standing wide open in

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Speaker 2: What happens to Digs He slips, you know.

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Speaker 4: Something we asked him to do, we wanted him to be.

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Speaker 2: We don't release more press, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: to turn in. You've essentially become the Cincinnati Bengals last year,

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Speaker 2: That's what the Bears were able to do. The Bears

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Speaker 5: You know, Brian to that point, what's disheartening about it

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Speaker 5: is even the guys that they're going to get back

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Speaker 5: struggling most right now at safety and at linebacker. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: When it's right in front of him, he broke up

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Speaker 7: I actually made this analogy, Derek, if you don't mind. Sure,

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Speaker 7: everybody's got to come together and figure this out. What

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Speaker 5: And I will throw the sin real quick. I know

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Speaker 5: last week we talked a lot about Donovan Wilson at safety.

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Speaker 5: I think Mollie Hooker had some issues that game as well.

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Speaker 5: Last game caught Hooker played pretty well this game, that

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Speaker 4: And I think that was his zone.

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Speaker 4: He didn't play.

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Speaker 5: Great yesterday either. So that's what I'm talking about. When

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Speaker 5: that becomes a question for me of does this coaching

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Speaker 4: With it or are they just not cable?

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Speaker 5: Is this outside the wheelhouse of what they do best,

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Speaker 5: I think this is deeper than just the players. I

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Speaker 2: And there's no question that the coaches have some involvement

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Speaker 2: once again, early in that football game, I saw Hooker

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Speaker 2: It's that they are, they're personnel right now, the players

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Speaker 5: At the start of the segment brought you about blockchain

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Speaker 4: How do you assess his play?

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Speaker 2: I think he could have been better, for sure, I

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Speaker 2: maybe try and take George Pickens down the field and

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Speaker 2: see if he could draw a pass. Interference would be

441
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 2: always a good option. And then also though you take

442
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 2: if they're going to play cover two on you, there

443
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 2: was a couple opportunities for some what I call hole

444
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Speaker 2: shots and the whole shot. The great example of the

445
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 2: hole shot was the one that that Turpin caught. If

446
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 2: you remember late in the game where he got whacked.

447
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: That is one of those covered two hole shots. And

448
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 2: they had a couple of those. They had some of

449
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 2: those in the game, and Dak checked the ball down.

450
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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there was a blitzer. Maybe he wasn't

451
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Speaker 2: really sure about, you know, letting that guy get into

452
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: that area. Maybe he wasn't totally comfortable and he could

453
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 2: have he could have punished the Bears on some of

454
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 2: their coverage. And I'm going to say this too, you know,

455
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 2: Vatch and I break down the opponent's defense on Thursday,

456
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 2: and we kind of talk about who we would attack against.

457
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: Against McLeod and Nashan Wright, they were ten of eleven

458
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 2: and a touchdown against that group. On the other side,

459
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: against Stevenson, they were three of ten. So you kind

460
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 2: of wonder yourself. You go into a game and you're thinking, like, Okay,

461
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 2: they're compromised at they're compromising the secondary. How am I

462
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: going to scheme my guys onto those players and keep

463
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 2: just attacking them, you know, And that's where I think

464
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 2: we get away from some things. I think Dak. I

465
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 2: think Dak could have thrown I think Dak could have

466
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 2: had a Russell Wilson like game the other day. You know,

467
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Speaker 2: I think he you know, there was some shots down

468
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 2: the field, there were some opportunities, but you know, he said, Okay,

469
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: I gotta just check it here, check it here, you know,

470
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Speaker 2: Toder Ferguson, I'm off for Ferguson catching balls. But Ferguson's

471
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 2: run after catch is not what it once was, just not.

472
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: So that's the thing that was a little bit just swarm.

473
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Speaker 2: Glad Dak did what he had to do, but man,

474
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: they missed some plays on that field. They could have

475
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Speaker 2: really maybe turned that game around.

476
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Speaker 3: Brian brought us.

477
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Speaker 7: Would you say that you're I don't want to say critical,

478
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 7: because that's like, you know, a big word there, But

479
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 7: like critique of that comes from the idea that the

480
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 7: defense isn't playing great at all, because because normally I

481
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 7: feel like I like that that side of deck. You know,

482
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 7: if the if the D ball is there, take it,

483
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 7: of course, but if it's a little weird, but you

484
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 7: can maybe hero ball a little bit, I don't mind

485
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 7: him taking the safer play, like, hey, like get six

486
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 7: yards and move the sticks and we'll just keep playing offense.

487
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 7: If anything I want from this Cowboys defense is just

488
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 7: to don't die so so quickly, buy us some time

489
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Speaker 7: for the offense to just kind of figure this thing out.

490
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 7: I go back to the Niners or whatever they got

491
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Speaker 7: Mac Jones playing playing.

492
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Speaker 3: Quarterback over there.

493
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Speaker 7: But what that d will at least do is buy

494
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 7: you time at least until mac Jones and run game

495
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 7: and all those other guys can figure something out.

496
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Speaker 3: My whole, my whole thing about Dak.

497
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Speaker 7: You would want Dak to go out there and throw

498
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Speaker 7: for five touchdowns if he can. I don't want Dak

499
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Speaker 7: to be that guy, because when Dak turns into that guy,

500
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 7: he throw picks and he starts sweating, his eyes get

501
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 7: big and look at the screen. I don't want Dak

502
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 7: to be that guy. You know what I'm saying. I

503
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 7: want Dak to just keep the ball safe and let's

504
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 7: run the ball, you know. And look, this goes to shoddy.

505
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Speaker 7: I can be critical of YouTube this This is the

506
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 7: first game where I'm kind of super critical of you,

507
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 7: but have a feel for timeouts, how to use him win,

508
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 7: to run the game, clock management, all this kind of stuff.

509
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 7: I think that this goes along with like play calling

510
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 7: and being the head coach at the same time.

511
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 5: Right, Yo, let's let's hold I want to get to

512
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 5: that conversation about game management.

513
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 4: Sure, that's something that we certainly have to talk about,

514
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 4: but just that.

515
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 5: But but just from the standpoint of Dak and Brian,

516
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 5: I'll throw this like as a part of that question.

517
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Speaker 5: One of the things I thought happened was I know

518
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 5: he was taking those checkdowns a lot.

519
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Speaker 4: I mean, you could Jake Ferguson.

520
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 5: Jake Ferguson had Word team catch catches on fourteen targets

521
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 5: for eighty two yards, his average six point two yards

522
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 5: per reception.

523
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 4: That's not a lot.

524
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Speaker 5: Part of that, I think also is there was a

525
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: time in Jake Ferguson's career when the first guy didn't

526
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Speaker 5: necessarily take him down.

527
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Speaker 4: And again, Jake is making the catches. That's good.

528
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Jake is one year.

529
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one year.

530
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Speaker 4: Jake is getting the yards that are there.

531
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Speaker 3: Great.

532
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Speaker 5: My expectations for Jake are higher than that. My expectations

533
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Speaker 5: is that he is that guy that in that year

534
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 5: made guys miss. He was that guy that if a

535
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 5: guy hit him, he could give him a shoulder and

536
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 5: he got another three or four yards. That's not necessarily

537
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 5: what we sing what we're seeing. So is that also

538
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 5: part of the issue of if you're going to take

539
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 5: these checkdowns, you don't have guys that are necessarily beating

540
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 5: their guy, beating that one person that's out there to

541
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 5: make the tackle to get more than just the yards

542
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 5: that you get in the air.

543
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 4: Yards that you get.

544
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing that I mean, I have no

545
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: problem throwing the ball that I can say, throw the

546
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: ball Williams. So the ball to to Ferguson. I'm just saying, though,

547
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: when Dak sat on that plane last night flying home

548
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: with you guys, he looked at that pad and he's going, damn,

549
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: I can't believe I missed that. I didn't see that one.

550
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: There was one time too. And just and I sound

551
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: very critical of Dak, but and I hate to do

552
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: this to him, but he's your best hope. He's got

553
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: to play. He has got to be. He's a he's

554
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: got to be an m v P. And that's just

555
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: where this team is right now.

556
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 4: And by the way, he was the first two weeks, absolute.

557
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: Absolutely and and and you know he played well yesterday.

558
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. The inner last interception I put

559
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: that on flu on a shot. He run the damn

560
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: ball in, Just run it in. You know you're gonna

561
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna be fine there. But he's going to look

562
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: at this and and and you're right, does he force

563
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: some things. But I think Dak's to that point where

564
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 2: if if he if he just if he when he

565
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: went back and watched that game. He's gonna see Turpin

566
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: in the hole. He's gonna see Pickens in the hole.

567
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: He's gonna see toll. You don't want to switch route

568
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: going up the field open. You know, it's like in

569
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: two right before half and this is this is where

570
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: shot he got me burning the early time out. You know,

571
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: just you burn an early time out. Either run the

572
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: either punt it or go for the first don't don't

573
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: try and draw people. Just do it. Don't have to

574
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: use a time out there to to And then now

575
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: you don't have a time out in half. This is

576
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row where you haven't had a

577
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: time out at the end of the half. And you've

578
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: got a field goal kicker that can make it from

579
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: the middle of the sea in the field and see

580
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: those are the things. And you know, Dak he scrambles out.

581
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: If he throws the ball down the field right before half,

582
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity to maybe get the ball down there

583
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: to midfield. But what does he have to do. He

584
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: has to throw the ball short and and you know

585
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: the clock runs out because he's thrown to a guy

586
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: that couldn't get out of bounce. Ferguson, I'm just saying

587
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: it sounds very, very critical of Dak. That's not my intent.

588
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 3: He is.

589
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: He is he has to play at a superhuman level

590
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: because of how poorly this defense is playing right now.

591
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: And then his best offensive weapon gets knocked out of

592
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: the game, you know, and that's you got. You got

593
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: a running back now that can average about seven yards

594
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: of carry. Might want to put in back there, you know,

595
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: instead there used to be a time where you had

596
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: to put Lamb and Turpin and others back there. You

597
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: don't have to do that anymore. You don't have to

598
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: do that anymore.

599
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 5: You guys have both brought it up now looking at

600
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 5: how the game was managed. Really for me, I think

601
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: I'm looking at that period that that position they got.

602
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 5: I think it was four fifteen left in the first half,

603
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: and Nick and I looked at each other and was like, Okay,

604
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 5: here you go. Here's your opportunity. This is why you

605
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 5: defer to the second half, is because here's your opportunity

606
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 5: to get points. They're down seventeen fourteen, so like, here's

607
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 5: your opportunity to get points. As we talked about last week,

608
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 5: you get to the middle of field, you got a

609
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 5: kick of that can boom it. So you just got

610
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 5: you gotta get just a few yards, get yourself into

611
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 5: at least a position to get some points out of it.

612
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: What ends up happening?

613
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 5: Cowboys have a drive that's three and out, give the

614
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 5: wall back here, Chicago, give up a touchdown, and now

615
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 5: you're down ten going into the half. And so it

616
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 5: just to me, how did you How much of that

617
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 5: do you put on their their inability to execute or

618
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 5: maybe the play calling even on that drive, or do

619
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 5: you put on the actual management of that that period.

620
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 7: It's a little bit of both, because if you miss

621
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 7: out like that's a that's what seventeen point swing gets you,

622
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 7: if you do it properly or whatnot.

623
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: And then they came back and ran nineteen plays on

624
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: you after your ex punt.

625
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 7: That's a it's a it's a it's a totally different drive.

626
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 7: It's a totally different game.

627
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: Seven first downs along the way, and they were running

628
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: the ball by the way.

629
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 7: And and and look, maybe you gotta maybe you gotta

630
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 7: talk to the PFF people. Maybe you kick early. You

631
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying some crazy thing because I don't

632
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 7: even understand it, you know, but but maybe kick early.

633
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 7: Then give it to them with three minutes, try to

634
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 7: play some defense and maybe they're less aggressive because of that,

635
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 7: and then you get the ball and then you try

636
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 7: to score. But like the one thing I can give

637
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 7: Maya mccarth and I've been beating him down since I

638
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 7: got here, but they knew how to hit those passes

639
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 7: on the sideline, get out of bounds, and at least

640
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 7: give aure a shot every time that they've had an

641
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 7: opportunity for the middle of eight this year, in the

642
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 7: past three games, they haven't been good at it. They

643
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 7: haven't been good at it going into the half and

644
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 7: getting the ball back coming out of the half. And

645
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 7: I would assume that has to be on shotty knowing

646
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 7: how to navigate something, because look, there's even times in

647
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 7: a game to where you're trying to get them to

648
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 7: jump and you burn a timeout. Yeah, and that timeout

649
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 7: could be valuable to your kickoff operation or something later

650
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 7: on in the game.

651
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: Go ahead, bro, were they burned a time out trying

652
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: to get them to, like you said, to jump off

653
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: sides And you're thinking, like, just just don't do that.

654
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: Either go for it or punt it. There's no in between.

655
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: There's no in between for me. If if you're going

656
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: to burn. And what's happened the last two weeks, They've

657
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: missed opportunities to have a time out left like all

658
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, Yeah, you complete the ball down the

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Speaker 2: out right there and then be able to take another shot.

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Speaker 2: So some game management stuff has been a little bit suspect.

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Speaker 2: Going into halves of these games and then coming out

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Speaker 2: the last three weeks. You were great in Philadelphia the

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Speaker 5: It is the final segment of The Break Live from

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Speaker 5: the SWBC Mortgage studios. At the start, we're talking about

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys loss to Chicago thirty one to fourteen. Up

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Speaker 5: next Green Bay Packers, and you're now the team, Michael.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get a win this week. Desperate team theory.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're saying that on Monday. Let's go for it.

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Speaker 5: All right, Let's talk about the defense. Caleb William yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Never beat the Packers real quick, Never beat.

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Speaker 8: The on offense. I know we talked about the difference

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Speaker 8: of how we of course know how different it looks

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Speaker 8: when CD is not on the field.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think and we've.

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Speaker 8: Been talking about this offense having so many different weapons

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Speaker 8: and this and that, what do you think you would

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Speaker 8: be able to manage it and figure it out at

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Speaker 8: least in I'm not saying you can deal with going

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Speaker 8: through the whole season without a CD. But in a

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Speaker 8: game like that against an opponent like that, what do

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Speaker 8: you think you have enough guys that can do things

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Speaker 8: and generate what you need to generate in order to

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Speaker 8: get into the end zone.

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Speaker 7: I could be wrong, and somebody can text me and

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Speaker 7: tell me if I'm wrong. If Pickens knew all of

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Speaker 7: the Lamb plays, then I think you would have a

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Speaker 7: better chance of like getting back Because Pickens is a

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Speaker 7: he's a great receiver or whatever. I don't think he

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Speaker 7: knows all the Lamb stuff. I think Pickens run slants,

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Speaker 7: he runs out, he runs deep. I think that's kind

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Speaker 7: of what he does. But if but they're talent wise

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Speaker 7: that they're up there, I just think Lamb does more

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Speaker 7: because I don't know whatever.

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Speaker 2: Man, you're onto something, but yeah, you're onto something.

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Speaker 3: It seemed like Turpin was doing the Lamb stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're on something because if you watch I was

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Speaker 2: watching Pickens as that game was going on, and I

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Speaker 2: couldn't reckanize his routes. I couldn't recognize I couldn't distinguish.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're right about the outs and the slants

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Speaker 2: and stuff, but everything else, I couldn't distinguish what routes

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Speaker 2: he was running. And I wonder if all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you know, him having to do more, you know, affected

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Speaker 2: the way that he played. But I'll give credit. Turpin

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Speaker 2: battled his ass off. He really did for you know,

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Speaker 2: lam being down. He really went out there and played hard.

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Speaker 2: I think I think Tolbert, I mean, people are gonna

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Speaker 2: blame Tobert for not finishing his block and allowing Stevenson

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Speaker 2: to get behind and steal the ball away, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean they got the ball to the edge. That's

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Speaker 2: just a great hustle play by Stevenson. But you could

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Speaker 2: tell that that Turpin was he was engaged and he

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Speaker 2: was trying to make something happen. And to the point

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Speaker 2: of Tolbert, there's sometimes where Tolbert just kind of fades

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Speaker 2: into the bushes during a game. I think there was

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Speaker 2: times where he was running routes and Dak just didn't

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Speaker 2: see him. Dak didn't throw him the ball, but man,

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Speaker 2: they needed they needed pickets. And I was really excited

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Speaker 2: coming into this game that they kind of maybe unlock

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Speaker 2: something from Pickens there, but he struggled, especially the interception

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Speaker 2: that was that was on him all the way Dak

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Speaker 2: scrambles out makes the throw off the hands Stevenson once

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Speaker 2: again right there. Got to have that ball. You got

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Speaker 2: to have that ball. But there was there was some

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Speaker 2: routes where I just wasn't really really sure what George

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Speaker 2: Pickens was trying to do to execute to get open.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about the defense. Caleb Williams yesterday

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Speaker 5: was nineteen of twenty eight, sixty eight percent completion, two

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Speaker 5: hundred ninety eight yards, zero sacks, four touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: First time he's ever not been sacked by.

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Speaker 5: The one hundred and forty two point six rating. It

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Speaker 5: was a career day for him yesterday. The interesting thing

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Speaker 5: about this defense, though, is that they did play more man.

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Speaker 5: In the past two weeks they played primarily, i mean

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Speaker 5: almost exclusively zoned. Yesterday played fourteen percent man eighty six

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Speaker 5: percent zone.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't really a better result.

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Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, quite a few times when

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Speaker 5: they were in man coverage, they had guys that were

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Speaker 5: giving up large cushions, and then the plays were set

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Speaker 5: up to where they were basically having to carry a

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Speaker 5: guy across the field. So if you can imagine that,

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Speaker 5: so you got a ten yard cushion, this guy's going

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Speaker 5: across the field. Trying to close that distance is almost impossible.

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Speaker 5: So you're gonna basically give up a catch of six

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Speaker 5: seven eight yards at the very least, maybe more so.

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Speaker 5: All that being said, when you look at it from

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Speaker 5: the standpoint of what they did schematically, do you think

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Speaker 5: that this is more of what they should be doing,

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Speaker 5: playing more of that man or do you think there

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Speaker 5: are deeper problems than even just that.

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Speaker 7: I would rather them play more man, But the cushion

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Speaker 7: doesn't make sense to me, Like if you're gonna play man, like,

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Speaker 7: don't give them ten yards.

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Speaker 2: Like list actually seven point one.

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Speaker 7: That was the appreciation. Appreciation Like if it's third and

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Speaker 7: twenty or something like that. Yeah, you know, you can

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Speaker 7: back off a little bit, but not that much, like

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Speaker 7: walk up and actually play these guys. And I'm hoping

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Speaker 7: Flues isn't worried about giving up the big play because

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Speaker 7: you give up the big playing zone as well, so

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Speaker 7: you might as well do something. The whole idea of

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Speaker 7: zone is to keep things kind of in front of you.

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Speaker 7: You can kind of see a little bit. If they

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Speaker 7: getting behind you in zone anyway, just go ahead and

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Speaker 7: rust some rustle man out there. It can't be that bad.

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Speaker 2: Flu Yeah, the biggest problem is lack of pastor.

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Speaker 8: You make it sound like so easy.

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Speaker 7: It's not as easy as I'm making it sound. But

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Speaker 7: it shouldn't be as difficult as Flues is making it.

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Speaker 7: It shouldn't be that difficult. And I'll and I'll say that.

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Speaker 2: And Jodd even said they might have to like kind

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Speaker 2: of scale some things back, and I was kind of like,

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Speaker 2: what it looks pretty scale now, maybe he's asking him

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Speaker 2: to do things like we're talking about, like Derek was

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Speaker 2: with DJ Moore. I looked to me like half zone,

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Speaker 2: half man. I I don't know. I mean, who's wrong?

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Speaker 2: Was the left side wrong or the right side wrong?

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Speaker 2: Because they were somebody's wrong, you know, and the way

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Speaker 2: they were playing it, And Hooker turns and looks inside

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Speaker 2: like wait a minute, what are we? What are we

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Speaker 2: doing here? Boys?

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Speaker 5: But it seems like the simplest kind of coverage you

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00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 5: could run is man because you know, hey, that's my guy.

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Speaker 5: They with him right when you when you start playing

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Speaker 5: zone and certain when you start playing more exotic kind

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Speaker 5: of zones, especially if your guys aren't familiar with that.

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Speaker 5: The NFL boves fast. I think that's one thing that

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00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 5: people don't really think about. If you're not a zone defender,

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Speaker 5: you're not used to playing zone, and you're being asked

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Speaker 5: to do that. Now you're having to adjust on the

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Speaker 5: fly as things happen. So what they did a lot

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Speaker 5: yesterday the Bears offensively, they basically flood a zone. And

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Speaker 5: what I mean by that is basically they take if

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Speaker 5: you're playing zone, they'll basically say, okay, well, on this

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Speaker 5: side of field, we may not have a single receiver

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Speaker 5: route in coverage. I mean in a route on that

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Speaker 5: side of the field. You got three guys over there

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Speaker 5: covering those zones. Now we're going to take the other

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Speaker 5: side of field, where you may have the same three

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Speaker 5: or different three, but it's three people, and we'll put

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Speaker 5: four four receivers into routes and we'll just flood that

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Speaker 5: area so you can't cover everybody. If you're not a

875
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 5: depth at being able to play zone, then that makes

876
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 5: it even worse because you're like, oh my god, this

877
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 5: guy coming from both ways, which way do I go?

878
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 5: And then you know somebody's past year and here we go, right.

879
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 5: I think that's part of the thing here is that

880
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 5: I don't know if these players are really a depth

881
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 5: at recognizing what's coming at them and being able to

882
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 5: adapt to that and play zone in a way to

883
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 5: where they really can't stop the opponent.

884
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: It's tough. I mean, yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. Can

885
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: I say the pass rust though, too? Can I throw

886
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: the pass rush in there with you know, with you know,

887
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: and or lack of you know? I mean, it's just

888
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: it's so evident that just these quarterbacks are feeling super

889
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: comfortable and Derek to your point, you know, flooding and

890
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: you're making they're making these these coaches or these coordinators

891
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: are making it really easy for their quarterbacks, especially with

892
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: no pressure. Then all of a sudden, you know, you've

893
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: got guys, and it's like that in that game. You know,

894
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams was looking at his receiver when he was

895
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: throwing the ball every time he just kind of knew that, Okay,

896
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: this is the way the plays called. And and Derek's right, Hey,

897
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: we're gonna flood it, and we're gonna guys gonna be

898
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: right there, you know, just beyond the sticks. I'm gonna

899
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: throw it to him, it's gonna be a first down,

900
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: and in a way we go. But they are just

901
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: not even when trying to bring extra rushers, just not

902
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: even getting close when you when you know, listen, let

903
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: me when DeAndre Swift in the first two games Minnesota

904
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: de Troit, he's having trouble picking up guys, but here

905
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: you are blitzing it and you're making him look like

906
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: he's the best running back pass protector in the league.

907
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: These are these are things that you're just playing into this.

908
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: You're like, it's like the weakness of you know, you're

909
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: attacking a weakness, but they're coming away just making it

910
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: work because you're not good enough to take advantage of

911
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: that situation. So that's the thing to me that's disheartening.

912
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: But there to your point, you're absolutely right. I mean,

913
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: to me, they can talk about communication. Execution has been

914
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: a real problem and I and I don't know if

915
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: these guys we talk about practicing out here, do you

916
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: practice enough? You know, I had one time a guy

917
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: and this is during the Mike McCarthy year, a guy

918
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: got called me up on you know phone and goes, hey,

919
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: you guys practice down there? Kind of looks like your

920
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: team doesn't practice. Wow, you know, and this but this

921
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: was last year, you know, and so I just you

922
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: wonder with some of the busts that happened or some

923
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: of the miscommunications, you have to wonder did you practice?

924
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 5: You know, well quick before you got I'm gonna let

925
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 5: you get to that point, Brian, as you were talking,

926
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: I saw this tweet that our guy Tommy Yarsh put

927
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 5: out about thirty seven.

928
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 4: Minutes ago, he said.

929
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 5: Going into Sunday's Week three game, Bears left tackle Braxton

930
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 5: Jones allowed twelve pressures on seventy nine pass blocking snaps

931
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 5: in Chicago's first two games, which led the team. Against

932
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: the Cowboys, Jones became just the fourth player in NFL

933
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 5: in the NFL this season to not allow a singer

934
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 5: single quarterback pressure.

935
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: There you go, he had two sacks, and I get it.

936
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: Against the Lions, you're going against Aiden Hutchins and those guys. Man,

937
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: it's tough. That's tough. But you there are these two tackles. Man. Listen,

938
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: we were talking about them on talking about them on Wednesday.

939
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, this is how you got to kind

940
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: of it's it's sometimes it just it's numbing when you

941
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: watch a game and you're going, why not, why not?

942
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: And then you watch and then you see the stats

943
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: at the end of the game and it's a loss,

944
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: and you go, oh wow, really they completed ten of

945
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: eleven balls against na Shon right and against the nickel corner.

946
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: But the other they attacked the other guy ten times

947
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: and he stopped. You know, he only give up three.

948
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: How about those other times? Just stay away and then

949
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: go over. We all know who Nashon right now, we

950
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: all know, we all know who he is. Nashon Wright

951
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: should have been begging to come off that field yesterday,

952
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: you know, you know the whole thing. McCloud should have

953
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: been begging to come off that field yesterday. I hate

954
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: when that happens. I hate when they don't take advantage

955
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: of a tackle or put pressure on that tackle, that

956
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: offensive tackle. And let me be honest, we kind of

957
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: said this felt like that the Bears offensive line was

958
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: somewhat better than what the Giants offensive line and so

959
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: that game that should have been the big red flag

960
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: right there. If you're not getting pressure on the Giants,

961
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna get pressure on the Bears. That's what we

962
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 2: should have known better.

963
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 8: Real quick help me with my memory going back to

964
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 8: when Mike Nolan was here and they were having all

965
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 8: those defensive issues and talking about, oh, well, now they

966
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 8: needed to start kind of quote unquote dumbing it down

967
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 8: just to improve the communication, and all of that. Remind

968
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 8: me in that season, did it start getting better once

969
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 8: they started simplifying things that it carried over the whole

970
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 8: year like it never improved a little bit at the end.

971
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 8: I don't remember.

972
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: I'll say this, this this defense. You're talking about the

973
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: Nolan defense being historically bad. I thought the Rob Ryan

974
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: defense was worse, you know, And I think the Rob

975
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: Ryan defense has got some elements to what this one has.

976
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: Where guys don't look like they're in place, they're not coordinated,

977
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: they're not coordinated, and Rob's trying to do something the

978
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: defense is like whoa wait a minute, what And then

979
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: Rob would throw ten guys in the field to try

980
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: and cover, you know, try and play defense, and occasionally

981
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: forget to put the eleventh guy on there.

982
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 18: But this that was strategy, this this early, this early

983
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 18: defense has some of that Rob Ryan elements to it,

984
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 18: where guys are running really really wide open.

985
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't recall that season getting you better.

986
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 5: I just remember thinking the whole year like how did

987
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 5: Mike Nolan get so bad at this? Because there was

988
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 5: a time Mike Nolan his defenses worked really good in.

989
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: The NFL, and it's like, how did how did he take.

990
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: And by the way, whatever is happening with with Eberfulus's defense,

991
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 5: That was a time when Eba flu was a really

992
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 5: good defensive coordinator. It was a really good defensive coordinator.

993
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 5: And and I don't know what's happened. I don't know

994
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: if it's a meshing of maybe the concepts are just

995
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: not working, maybe the players are not capable of doing it.

996
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 5: But but there's something going on with this defense that's

997
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: that's deeper than just misplay here, miss misplay there.

998
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: There's something deeper here.

999
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 5: I think because it is a consistent thing week after week,

1000
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 5: play after play that they're just not in the right spot.

1001
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 8: Well and like all positions pretty much all over the defense.

1002
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: Schottenheimer for the offense this week stuck in the mirror too.

1003
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: They get it. Shottenheimer needs to look in the mirror too,

1004
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: that that offense should have done better against that def fair.

1005
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: That's absolutely fair. And by the way, we know if

1006
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: they're gonna win this year, it's offense gonna.

1007
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: Have to play.

1008
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's gonna be put on Dak's shoulders. I'm not

1009
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he's one of your best players, and

1010
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with how much money you paying,

1011
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: but he is one of your best players, and he's

1012
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: gonna have to play the next fourteen weeks like your

1013
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: absolute best player. Yeah.

1014
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: I thought that was a good comparison when you when

1015
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: you mentioned the the Cincinnati Bengals from last year, because

1016
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 5: Burrow had by all accounts, in my opinion, an MVP

1017
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 5: caliber season last year nine and that was just basically

1018
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 5: because they had no defense. That was the basically that

1019
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 5: was the best that they were going to be able

1020
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 5: to do. And if he didn't have a great game,

1021
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 5: they didn't have it. They did work a shot. And

1022
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's that just yet for the Cowboys,

1023
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 5: but it certainly is trending that way that if Jack

1024
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 5: Fat doesn't have a great year or great game, then

1025
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 5: they just won't win. I appreciate you, guys, jump let

1026
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 5: me be back tomorrow. We'll take a little deeper look

1027
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: at some of the topics, some bigger topics around this team.

1028
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 5: I want to talk a little bit tomorrow about Yeah,

1029
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 5: we'll get some questions. I actually want to talk a

1030
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 5: little bit about Cede Lamb and how he got hurt

1031
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 5: yesterday and whether that's a good idea when you have

1032
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: a player as important to your offense as CD Lamb.

1033
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 4: But we'll talk about that tomorrow until the TSAR Brian

1034
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: Bronis ambergresty. I'm Derek Gildon has been the break Live Radio.

1035
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1036
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