WEBVTT - Draft Show: Senior Bowl Preview & Dane's Top 50 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:08.360 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Showboys on 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.559 your war Room for insider news and draft analysis from 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.880 deep within the confines at Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:20.320 The Dallas Cowboys Selection Byrand Joe and now your hosts 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:26.040 Dame Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us back here 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:31.800 at the Draft Show the STWBC Mortgage Studios. Brian brought 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:37.599 us along with Dame Brugler, CBS Sports, Dallas Cowboys dot Com, 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:43.080 David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kent Garrison, Executive Producer. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.320 As we like to say here the Draft Show where 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:53.360 we like to investigate and then educate all things NFL Draft. Uh, guys, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.320 we had some All Star games coming. We gotta we 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.960 gotta game. We're gonna preview, uh coming up here Senior 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.240 Bowl game that we're all going to. Dane. You were 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.640 at the East West game. We'll get into that a 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.600 little bit. I want to also talk about though, how 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.360 we go about here. We like to have conversations with 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.679 you the fan. We do it a couple of different ways. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.280 We do it through Twitter, which is at Twitter on 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:24.319 the twenty and we encourage you to ask your questions 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.280 through at the Draft Show. That's the best way to 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.559 do it. Should follow along we you know, we're gonna 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.240 be doing some things with the count from the Senior Bowl, 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.319 and it's the best way for you to figure out 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:36.840 how we have our shows, when our shows are going 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.319 to be and then also get questions to us. We're 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.200 also going to take calls today as we always do 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.840 on the Draft Show eight eight eight eight, five five 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.480 two two nine seven. It should be on the right 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:50.320 side of your screen there as we speak. Want to 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:54.960 talk about Dane some of the things that you saw 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:00.880 this week at the East West Game. The roster better 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.680 not as good as what we've seen in the Senior Bowl. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.960 Phil Savage and those guys who've done a nice job 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.040 with the rosters have come out and we've seen the names, 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.800 but talk a little bit about guys that we need 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:18.080 to pay attention to from the evaluations you had at 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.520 practice the other day the last few days. Yeah, and 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.880 for people that don't know East West Shrine Game as 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.240 in Tampa every year, it's kind of you know, Senior 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.360 Bowl is the A All Star Game, Shrine Games, the 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.000 B All Star Game, so a lot of talent there. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.280 Last year's a couple of guys drafted top one hundred 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.440 playing of draftable players. The game is the tomorrow Saturday, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.800 but I was there all week for practices. That's really 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.040 where the heavy lifting is done. That's where you know, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.960 hundreds of scouts were there looking at these guys. All 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.720 thirty two teams represented. And for me, the top guy 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.079 going in was Javon Hargrave, defensive tackle out of South 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.639 Carolina State, and he left right as I left. During 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.280 the week, he was my top prospect, A really good player, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.760 three hundred fifteen pounds, moves really well, strong at the 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.360 point of attack. So I think Javon Hargrave's a name 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.639 that people need to know. Graham Glasgow, the center from Michigan. 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.040 He just got a Senior Bowl invitation as well, so 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.240 he was outstanding at the Shrine game during practice and 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:14.720 we'll get a chance to see him as a Senior 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.160 Bowl center. A little taller at six six, but really 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.840 athletic moves well. It's amazing what Jim Harbaugh did, not 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.079 only for that Michigan program, for those senior prossts. Hard 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.000 for an Ohio State guy to say that too, by 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:31.560 the way, unbiased with his grandmother. Right. Yeah, story, ESPN 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.720 did a great story. Check it out. Yeah, a great story. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.120 And a couple more small school guys. Victor Ochi from 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.160 Stony Brook. Stony Brooks never had a player drafted. This 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.119 could could be the first little undersized pass rusher. Devondre 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.240 Campbell linebacker Minnesota. A couple out of these guys. Not, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.200 these guys aren't as good as the players we'll see 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.360 next week at the Senior Bowl. But these guys do 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:52.880 have a chance to get drafted. Let me ask you 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.480 this about the Michigan kid. Though. What you saw is 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.560 Kelly your top I saw he was in and we're 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.080 going to get into Dane's top fifth. Uh. That just 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.240 came out on CBS. I think that's always a nice read. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.640 I retweeted the link out there that to to check 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:12.040 that out. But you know, is Kelly your top center obviously? 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.120 Is He's the only only center in the top fifty there? Yeah, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.000 in a position though, though, Dave that everybody seems to 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:23.560 try and want but has trouble finding. Though not it's 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.080 a position that everybody wants, but they don't like to 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.440 spend resources on it. My first experience with the Cowboys, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.240 I mean what a month after I started when they 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.440 drafted Travis Frederick and got murdered for it. Uh for 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.520 taking him. I mean people, you know you could have 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.680 gotten him in the third round. Centers don't go in 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.880 the first round. Yeah. Now he's a two time Pro 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.640 Bowl and this is a good year for centers. We 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.159 might not have that first round guy this year. But 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.039 you talked about Kelly from Alabama. Uh, the guys, we'll 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.960 see it the Senior Bowl. H Martin Martin, you know Nick, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.840 Nick Martin. So a plenty of good centers in this 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.680 Allen draft, Jack allenia Iowa, Iowa kid. Plenty of good 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.680 centers that will start in the league. But we just 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.240 don't have that first round guy. So if you need 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.039 a starting center in this draft, you can get one second, third, 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.760 fourth round. Yeah. Let me ask you this, And how 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.440 did the sharp kid from U mass look? And this 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.600 was this was a guy that got in I'm not 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.640 gonna say late because I'm way ahead of the game, 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.760 but watch some tape him the other day. Measured in 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.000 I thought he was a two hundred pound kid, but 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:34.320 it measured in at one eighty eight. Hands, really good hands, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.520 and he's got some size to him sixty three six 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.680 two and a half kind of a player. Though, what 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.200 kind of week did did he have there? At at 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.679 at the game? Yeah, he left MSS as the best 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.800 wide receiver statistically in their program's history. Um, and he 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.200 you know, going in he was probably the top receiver 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.880 for me at the game, but he didn't really stand 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.599 out that much. I thought Robbie Anderson, the Temple wide receiver, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.640 actually stood out a little more. And that's an interesting guy. Yeah. Um, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.160 but for sharp thing that really concerned me his hands 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.400 they were under eight inch inches and that's uh for 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.120 wide receivers. You wanted nine nine and a half to 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.719 sharpest who we're talking about. Yeah, and that's told me 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.840 his hands were tiny. Yeah and that but you but 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:22.240 you watched the tape of him playing, he's he's snatching 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.360 the football. He is he is and he's a good player. Uh. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.320 But from this game, I felt better about Chris Brown, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:32.440 the Notre Dame wide receiver. Anderson from Temple. Um could 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.320 juice the Stanford wide receiver as well. So you know, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.120 I think he's still probably a Day three type of player. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.560 I don't think he's a top one hundred prospect, but 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.920 I still think he's you know, in that day three discussion, Yeah, 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.599 that's a to me. I think that everybody's looking for 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.840 wide receivers. I mean that's a position though. But all 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.440 these guys that you talked about fourth, fifth, sixth round 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.560 type receivers. Yeah, I'm not sure any of these guys 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.080 will break into that top one hundred, but probably early 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.440 day three of four, fifth, sixth round. So you don't 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.960 see Sharp as that type of guy. I don't see 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.240 him as a top one hundre, right, I mean, I 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.400 think he's gonna be somewhere in the in the middle 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.320 late rounds. Yeah, i'd be. I'd be interested because I 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.000 like the guy watching him on tape. Yeah, you know, 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.200 and and and and there was you know, there's games 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.320 where they played some good competition. You can watch the 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.440 Notre Dame game. He's making plays against Notre Dame. So 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.080 I was, I was, I'm interested about that. So those 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.200 are the guys though, anybody else stand out for you 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.520 at this uh, at the at the practices that you 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.840 feel like that everybody needs to take maybe take a 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.760 little bit closer look at when they watched the game. Well, 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.080 it's interesting this year with the quarterbacks the quarterback class. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.480 The Senior Bowl usually take six quarterbacks the top senior quarterbacks. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.960 This year they took the top eight, plus Connor Cook's 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.600 not one of them, so that's you know, that's nine 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.440 quarterbacks right there. So the Shrine Games getting the scraps, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.440 but that tells you how deep this class is. When 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.800 the Shrine Game had Nate Sudfeld from Indiana, a lot 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.760 of people like him, Brandon Dowdy from Western Western talking 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.520 as well, so you know there was some strong quarterback 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.000 played down there. You know, both these guys are more 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.720 are their Day three guys. You know, they're not players 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.239 we're going to see in the in the third round. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.840 But I thought they handled them themselves. Well. Keenan Reynolds 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.600 from Navy, I just took quarterback. You know, he's he 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.000 made the transition to running back and I just I'm 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.320 not sure he looked natural at the position, but he 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.800 just doesn't have the body power to live between the 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.200 tackles and one hundred and ninety pounds. You know, you 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.080 watched him get hit and he wasn't making anything happen 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.000 after contact. But what I was really impressed with his 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.680 ability to catch the ball. You know, he didn't catch. 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.920 He had one catching college, and so no one knew 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.199 what to expect with his hands. But he caught everything 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.280 this week in practice. So I think, you know, Keenan 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.920 Rounds is going to get drafted somewhere, probably late in 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.400 the late rounds day three, and the team's going to 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.320 figure out how to use him. Whether it's in the slot, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.280 whether it's maybe a you know, a scat back, third 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.520 down type of role. Someone will figure out how to 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.040 use Keenan Reynolds and utilize out athletics. Did he looked 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.680 comfortable doing it because I was watching Braxton Miller, and 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.520 Braxton Miller looks comfortable to me if you're gonna have 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.559 a projection, And Braxton Miller, I think did a very 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.360 smart thing initially, just saying, you know what, if you 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.360 don't want me to play quarterback anymore, I'll go play 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.560 wide receiver and try and and and start his journey along. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.480 Braxton Miller looks very comfortable playing wide receiver. To me, 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.840 U unbelievable athlete, Braxon Miller, I mean game changing speed. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.600 I mean, he's he's just a different type of dude. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.000 I mean the guys just aren't you know, walking through 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.840 the door like built like that as he's six one, 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.760 two hundred fifteen pounds, right, I mean that's an Kuon 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:30.120 Bolden size. And then but he's faster than Yeah Ank 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.560 bolding ran a four seven. Braxon's gonna run in the 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.920 four three eight to four four four range and in 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.959 the forty yard dash. And plus he has the change 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.800 of direction skills that you want. He can make you miss. Um. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.679 My biggest concern with Braxon Miller is just can he 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.480 stay healthy? The durability, toughness over the middle. But no, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.319 you're right. I mean for a guy that it was 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.880 a quarterback, he looks so natural at receiver. I'm really 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.920 eager he's one of the players this next week at 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.079 the Senior bowld. Yeah, and get into that if I 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.160 can for a little bit here too, is we is 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.679 we transition and into the Senior Bowl. I just want 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.320 to marvel for a second that it's January twenty second 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.680 second and we just spent a decent amount of time 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:14.880 talking about guys from football powerhouses like South Carolina State, Temple, UMass, Navy. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.880 There was another one in there too, uh whatever, But yeah, 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.559 you're not finding that anywhere else. No stuff. Yeah, that's 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:27.080 that's Dane Brugler stuff. That's that's the investigate and and 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.760 then and then educated potatas it's unbelievable. Well that's good though, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.320 you know, let's go through these rosters a little bit. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.600 Some guys that I've highlighted it and and I'm gonna 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.120 start with I'll go with the Dallas flair here because 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.840 Jason Garrett and the staff will be coaching the North side. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:47.680 We got into Braxton Miller a little bit about Well, first, 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.400 let me do this, Dane, when you first saw the roster, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.719 and Dave when you saw the roster as well, your 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.680 initial impressions, you gotta give Phil Savage and his crew 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.440 a lot of credit for and give the players credit 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.800 too for wanting to step up up and be and 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.280 be a part of this football game. Though, talk about 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.920 indicial oppressions of the roster. And you know, I knew 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.600 going in Carson Wentz was gonna be on the Cowboys. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.920 Even if Carson Wentz, you know, was a south guy 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.280 from Florida, he was gonna be on the North roster. 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.679 That exactly. They were gonna get the Jaguars. They have 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.440 their quarterback, right, Cowboys, they have a better possibility drafting quarterback, 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.920 so that was going to happen. So I wasn't a 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.160 surprise to see Carson Wentz on the North roster. But 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:31.640 good to see all these defensive tackles. There are five week, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.400 all those defensive tackles right on the south roster. There's 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.640 one defense a defensive tackle. I mean, they're they're putting 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.600 some of these defensive tackles on this North roster. Uh. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.120 Knowing that the Cowboys second third round could be looking 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.360 at some of these guys. Austin Johnson from Penn State, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.240 we talked about him last week. Really eager to see 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.679 how he does, a fourth year junior who could be 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.360 in the mix that early second round pick um. And 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.720 then also going back to the quarterbacks, Uh, Jeff Driscoll 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:01.720 Louisiana Tech. If the Cowboys do not get that quarterback 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.120 at for overall or in the second round, Driscoll's the 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.680 guy that I'd probably be targeting and somewhere in the 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.920 mid round mix. A guy that shows a little bit 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.560 of potential, a guy that you can develop. So eager 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.840 to see what we what we can see from Jeff 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.320 Driscoll this week. A lot of people just wrote him 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.720 off after Florida. It was a disaster there, it was, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.760 but he reinvented himself as a prospect that Louisiana Tech 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.400 this year. All the tools are there. He's a tremendous 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.920 leader at a scout. Tell me he's the best leader 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.520 he Driscoll is that this scout has seen in the 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.120 last ten years scouting around the country. So, uh, you know, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.959 Garrett's gonna love that, and so really eager to see 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.400 how these quarterbacks fair, especially wentz In Driscoll. Well, what 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.720 about Dave you last night on the North Side, Danes 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.320 bringing it up, I'll talk about it. You talked about 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.920 him first, well, Jacoby Brissett, Yeah, yeah, excuse me, Brissette, Okay, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.439 I get I'll drag it out for working on it. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.560 Jacoby Brissett like that guy. Yeah, talk about what you 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.560 saw last night and I'll get Dane stop. But I'm 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.600 interested in what you thought last I had to watching 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.679 the young man from North Carolina State. Uh, well, we were, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.959 and I'm not hijacking. We were talking about Cardel Jones 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.080 before we came on the show. Who's not at the 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.480 Senior Bowl, but like I think a very similar skill set, 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.640 Like he's a big guy got a not as crazy 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.400 of an arm as card L Jones, but he's got 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.720 a really big arm again, And like, you know, I 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.200 feel like this is something unless you're looking at Andrew Luck, 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.600 Like these college quarterbacks are not great at going through 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.680 progressions and reading defenses. So not amazing at that first 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:35.240 read throw. But he's got like a poison an awareness 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.120 about him that I really like. Like when the play 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.880 falls apart, he doesn't panic. He he's got enough mobility 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.760 to step around speed. Yeah, so he's a guy and 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.600 it's so early, Like I'm if he plays well at 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.640 the Senior Bowl, his stock is undoubtedly going to rise. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.040 But I mean he seems like a guy that people 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.160 are kind of writing off. What I mean, we were 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.200 thinking fourth fifth round grade probably like that type of guy. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.400 A quarterback. It's such a valuable position that I'm not 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.040 going to be surprised at all if he bumps that 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.240 up with you know, some good performances over the next 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.200 couple months. But he's he's I feel like, you know, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.960 there's the obvious guys. We've already beaten goff, Wins and 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.040 Lynch into the ground, and we will continue to do 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.520 so for good reason. But there's another six to ten 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.400 guys that are worth talking about who even maybe maybe 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.320 not at four, maybe not at thirty four, but once 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.400 you get into that third, fourth, fifth round, you could 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.280 find a guy who not an immediate starter. But that's 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.360 not what I'm looking for if I'm the Cowboys anyway. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.440 And I know, I mean that will spark an argument 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.160 if you say it to the wrong person, because some 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.840 people think you need to have a guy that's ready 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.920 to go immediately in case Romo breaks his collarbone in 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.880 a week two again, but get a guy in the 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.760 fourth round who can sit around and learn for a year, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.040 two years, three years doesn't sound terrible to me, Dan, 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.920 It just did. Dave Is he's talking more that fourth, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.320 fifth round kind of guy. That's that's really what I'm interested. No, 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.920 that's what I yeah, And that's I think. I think. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.240 I think he painted a pretty fair picture of this kid. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.320 Dan talk about though in the skill set though that 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.080 you see with this particular player. Well, yeah, and you 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.880 know we talked about it with this quarterback class, how 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.440 deep it is. I mean, we're gonna have over a 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.840 dozen quarterbacks drafted this year. And while it you know, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.080 at the top I don't. I still think we don't 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.360 have that Winston or Mariota, but we have some good 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.800 players that are gonna be taken mid to late rounds. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.680 And you know, going back to Jacoby Brissett, he's built 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.320 really well and he has a big arm. I just 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.880 I don't see him use that arm enough. I don't 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.480 think he trusts downfield throws. I don't think he trusts 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.920 what he sees um. You know, he's really tough in 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.880 the pocket. Guys, I'll just fall right off of him 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.720 and he create and extend plays with his legs and 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.080 just a sheer size. I just don't see him making 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.440 enough impact plays with his arm. And so I think 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.240 he has the arm to do it, just haven't seen 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.640 it on tape. There were a half a dozen reps 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.520 that we saw where he decided to rifle it to 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.240 the curl route or the drag route rout and like 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.320 he had a guy with a step, you know, down 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.240 the outside. He didn't want to do a lot to 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.200 try to make a lot of tight window throws like 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.440 way too many, Like way too many were like the cornerbacks, 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.400 like hanging off the receiver and he throws it to 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.960 him anyway. He or Hogan from Stanford have to have 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.760 maybe a better week at the Senior Bowl. Which one 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.240 that's good, No, it's good. I think both in the 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.000 same tier in terms of, you know, quarterbacks in this class. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:30.320 To me, I think Hogan that delivery the streaky accuracy. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.960 To me, Hogan's a future backup. And I think Brissette 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.400 has a little bit more upside where I think you 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.120 can get a little bit more out of him that 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.800 we haven't seen to this point. I think both. I 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.800 don't see either of them as a future NFL starter, 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.120 to be honest, but I think both can be backups 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.280 in this league. But I do think Brissette offers a 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.320 little bit more upside coaches get a little bit more 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:49.760 out of him. I think you both have done a 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.640 nice job of painting a picture of the player I 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.800 agree with. But I like the arm talent though, and 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.000 I and You're right, I don't think we needed to 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.600 see more of those down the field type of throws. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.920 I'm just naturally more intrigued by the guy who's getting 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.840 less of the spotlight, you know, Like I mean, I, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.359 whether I want to talk about him or not, Carson 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.560 Wentz is gonna be in the spotlight, you know, and 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.480 he's the guy. So I'm gonna go over here and 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.560 look at the guy that maybe he's not getting as 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.320 much attention. That's more interesting. Let's focus in on Carson 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.879 Wentz this week. Then, Well, before we do that, I'm sorry, 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.640 I just we're talking about you know, the Cowboys got 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.199 wins on their roster. They got these defensive tackles like 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.680 Phil Savage, probably trying to do the coaching staff a 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.879 couple of favors. It's fair to say that probably happened 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.280 with the Jaguars too, right, I mean, so I would 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.440 be curious to know, and I don't know what their 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.720 needs are. Maybe you do, I mean, you know, the draft. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:40.920 Maybe a guy that you would have liked to see 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.199 the Cowboys working with that is with Jacksonville instead for 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.000 that very reason, because there were some names that I 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.840 was hoping to see on the Dallas roster that wound 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.320 up on the other side. Well, I think the best 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.760 player in Mobile is Noah Spense Eastern Kentucky. He's a 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.000 PA kid, went to Ohio State, then transferred Eastern Kentucky. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.480 So you could make easy, easy argument he should be 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.600 on the North roster. But he is on the South roster. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.240 I think he's the most talented player that we will 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.160 see in Mobile. Has his baggage, a lot of baggage, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.240 but again, I think he's the most talented player there. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.439 So really eager to see how he fares. You know, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.640 the Alabama players, Reggie Ragland, Yes, you know, we knew 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.080 those guys who are gonna be on the South roster. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.000 They always are. But um, you know, I think you know, 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.280 going back to uh, the best player I think is 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.240 gonna be the Eastern Kentucky Pass roster. So yeah, keep 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.280 an eye two on the South roster too. With the 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.680 rankings Kid Sheldon Rankings from Louisville, I think when he 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.720 can DJ, they talk about him as the three technique. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.360 This kid is right behind him in my opinion, if 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.760 you know you're talking potentially could be Louisville, could potentially 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.440 be a first round pick. I think this rosters really 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.520 really outstanding. I think Phil and the and the players 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.480 give them a lot of credit that this is gonna 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.800 be a really a nice week. 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