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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Selection Byrand Joe and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Dame Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us back here

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Speaker 1: David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kent Garrison, Executive Producer.

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Speaker 1: As we like to say here the Draft Show where

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Speaker 1: we like to investigate and then educate all things NFL Draft. Uh, guys,

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Speaker 1: we had some All Star games coming. We gotta we

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Speaker 1: gotta game. We're gonna preview, uh coming up here Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl game that we're all going to. Dane. You were

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Speaker 1: at the East West game. We'll get into that a

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Speaker 1: be doing some things with the count from the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: also going to take calls today as we always do

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Speaker 1: talk about Dane some of the things that you saw

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Speaker 1: this week at the East West Game. The roster better

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Speaker 1: not as good as what we've seen in the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Phil Savage and those guys who've done a nice job

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Speaker 1: with the rosters have come out and we've seen the names,

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Speaker 1: but talk a little bit about guys that we need

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Speaker 1: to pay attention to from the evaluations you had at

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Speaker 1: practice the other day the last few days. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: for people that don't know East West Shrine Game as

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Speaker 1: in Tampa every year, it's kind of you know, Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl is the A All Star Game, Shrine Games, the

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Speaker 1: B All Star Game, so a lot of talent there.

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Speaker 1: Last year's a couple of guys drafted top one hundred

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Speaker 1: playing of draftable players. The game is the tomorrow Saturday,

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Speaker 1: but I was there all week for practices. That's really

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Speaker 1: where the heavy lifting is done. That's where you know,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of scouts were there looking at these guys. All

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Speaker 1: thirty two teams represented. And for me, the top guy

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Speaker 1: going in was Javon Hargrave, defensive tackle out of South

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Speaker 1: Carolina State, and he left right as I left. During

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Speaker 1: the week, he was my top prospect, A really good player,

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Speaker 1: three hundred fifteen pounds, moves really well, strong at the

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Speaker 1: point of attack. So I think Javon Hargrave's a name

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Speaker 1: that people need to know. Graham Glasgow, the center from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: He just got a Senior Bowl invitation as well, so

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Speaker 1: he was outstanding at the Shrine game during practice and

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Speaker 1: we'll get a chance to see him as a Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl center. A little taller at six six, but really

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Speaker 1: athletic moves well. It's amazing what Jim Harbaugh did, not

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Speaker 1: only for that Michigan program, for those senior prossts. Hard

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Speaker 1: for an Ohio State guy to say that too, by

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Speaker 1: the way, unbiased with his grandmother. Right. Yeah, story, ESPN

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Speaker 1: did a great story. Check it out. Yeah, a great story.

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Speaker 1: And a couple more small school guys. Victor Ochi from

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Speaker 1: could could be the first little undersized pass rusher. Devondre

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Speaker 1: Campbell linebacker Minnesota. A couple out of these guys. Not,

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Speaker 1: these guys aren't as good as the players we'll see

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Speaker 1: Kelly your top I saw he was in and we're

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Speaker 1: going to get into Dane's top fifth. Uh. That just

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Speaker 1: I retweeted the link out there that to to check

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Speaker 1: that out. But you know, is Kelly your top center obviously?

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Speaker 1: it's interesting this year with the quarterbacks the quarterback class.

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Speaker 1: The Senior Bowl usually take six quarterbacks the top senior quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: This year they took the top eight, plus Connor Cook's

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Speaker 1: But I thought they handled them themselves. Well. Keenan Reynolds

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Speaker 1: use Keenan Reynolds and utilize out athletics. Did he looked

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Speaker 1: Braxton Miller looks very comfortable playing wide receiver. To me,

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Speaker 1: U unbelievable athlete, Braxon Miller, I mean game changing speed.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guys just aren't you know, walking through

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Speaker 1: two hundred fifteen pounds, right, I mean that's an Kuon

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Speaker 1: bolding ran a four seven. Braxon's gonna run in the

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Speaker 1: My biggest concern with Braxon Miller is just can he

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Speaker 1: you're right. I mean for a guy that it was

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, he looks so natural at receiver. I'm really

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Speaker 1: eager he's one of the players this next week at

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Speaker 1: we transition and into the Senior Bowl. I just want

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Speaker 1: talking about guys from football powerhouses like South Carolina State, Temple, UMass, Navy.

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Speaker 1: you're not finding that anywhere else. No stuff. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's Dane Brugler stuff. That's that's the investigate and and

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Speaker 1: then and then educated potatas it's unbelievable. Well that's good though,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's go through these rosters a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Some guys that I've highlighted it and and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with I'll go with the Dallas flair here because

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and the staff will be coaching the North side.

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Speaker 1: We got into Braxton Miller a little bit about Well, first,

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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Showboys back

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Speaker 1: here with the Draft Show from the SWBC Mortgage Studios.

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Speaker 1: Brian broad Is, Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Kent Garrison, executive producer.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a call. We're gonna go to the

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Speaker 1: great state of Tennessee. Phil, We're all doing great today.

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Speaker 1: What is your question for the Draft show? Please? I

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Speaker 1: think he just hung up when you put him on

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Speaker 1: the air. Okay, he got scared, Phil got little nervous.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of players, so Tennessee is gonna have a really

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Speaker 1: good team. We're just trying to fill some airtime. Ah,

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Speaker 1: and Phil's not there. We go. Okay, some news just

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Speaker 1: came down, Dane. You've been on this following you on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You said that we were going to get the list

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Speaker 1: of the juniors that have declared for the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: and that list has just come out, So go ahead

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Speaker 1: with that information. NFL officially released the underclassman list one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seven total players, which is a new record.

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Speaker 1: Uh ninety six are true juniors. Guys that are leaving

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Speaker 1: school early with eligibility than an additional eleven have already graduated,

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Speaker 1: but technically they had eligibility left, so uh, they were

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Speaker 1: technically underclassmen. So one hundred and seven total, which is

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Speaker 1: a new record. The previous record was one hundred and two,

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Speaker 1: which was done two years ago. So only the second

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Speaker 1: time ever we've had triple digits for these underclassmen. And

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Speaker 1: you know, no, no surprises, guys, we already knew. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, just you know, looking at the list, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, these are all guys that we knew were

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Speaker 1: coming out, you know, guys like Joey Bosa, uh, Larmie Tunsol,

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Speaker 1: all the top guys. So no big surprises. A few

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Speaker 1: small school players we didn't know, Buttim Cookman has a

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Speaker 1: guard on here, guys like that. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: guys we already knew. And you know, NFL has been

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Speaker 1: trying to keep this number low, you know, because over

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Speaker 1: the last two years, over a third of these players

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Speaker 1: I've come out early have gone undrafted. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: I went back and you know, did all the research

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Speaker 1: and thirty four point four percent and that's a big number.

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Speaker 1: And you know, these players there, it's not about going

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Speaker 1: in the first round anymore. It's about get that second contract.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're a second, third, fourth rounder, a

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Speaker 1: lot of these kids are okay with that. They just

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Speaker 1: want to go and try to get second contracts sooner.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of these guys wanted me to make

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Speaker 1: it the training camp, and so it's an unfortunate thing.

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Speaker 1: But you don't want to see how it shakes out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the NFL doing the best they can to help the

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Speaker 1: college programs to keep those kids in. A lot of

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Speaker 1: kids are ready, but like you said, the number is

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Speaker 1: pretty staggering of the numbers that don't don't make it

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Speaker 1: or don't get drafted. So that's unfortunate that side of it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go to a staple that are a good friend

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Speaker 1: ed K Hill invented three years ago. It is Twitter

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Speaker 1: on the Twitter on the Twitter. With that being said,

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Speaker 1: I turned the show over to David Hellman and he

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Speaker 1: gets all your Twitter questions answered. Okay, we'll start out

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Speaker 1: with a good question something I feel like people probably

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Speaker 1: roll their eyes about given the Cowboys history at the

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Speaker 1: position recently, But Diane wants to know where do you

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Speaker 1: view tight end as a first of all, I guess

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Speaker 1: the class, but also as a draftable position for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to write it off because Jason

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Speaker 1: Witten continues to chug along, but James Hanna is a

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Speaker 1: free agent. Gavin Escobar injured, doesn't figure the factor early

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, if at all, because of his Achilles injury.

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Speaker 1: So how do you feel about that? You got to

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Speaker 1: tight end stain? I mean I know that obviously that

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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is the top rated one, but he's but

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Speaker 1: he is a catcher, not a blocker. No, that's the

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Speaker 1: and that's the thing. If you're looking for it, will

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Speaker 1: never find another Jason Witten. I don't believe everyone needs

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Speaker 1: a blocking Yeah, this team needs, you know. But Hunter

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Speaker 1: Henry Gerald Adams, though, is South Carolina an interesting guy? Long,

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Speaker 1: tall at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: More of getting away type of blocker though, But I

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Speaker 1: like his athletic ability down the field as well. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't impress me. He can he can go down

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Speaker 1: the steam and do something good size an athlete, He

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Speaker 1: picks up steam as he goes right, that type of

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Speaker 1: he is a long strider of a runner. Right exact.

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Speaker 1: It's a more impressed with his third and fourth steps

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Speaker 1: as a route runner, and so I think, yeah, a

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Speaker 1: guy will see in mobile as a big bone, natural frame.

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Speaker 1: He's going to develop. You've seen him in line, we've

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Speaker 1: seen him backfield, but overall, this tight end class hunter,

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Speaker 1: Henry's the number one guy, clear kiss. But have you

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Speaker 1: done the Hooper kid from Stanford yet? Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 1: just look at him. You know, we've seen him in line.

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Speaker 1: He seen him block a little bit. He's a good

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Speaker 1: route runner, he's a good catcher of the football. It

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Speaker 1: just doesn't It's like a vanilla player though, right, very

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Speaker 1: just steady, nothing spectacular. And then usually with these guys,

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Speaker 1: I want that one distinguishing trait, you know, the one

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Speaker 1: thing that I can hang my hat on. This guy

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Speaker 1: does extremely well, right, Hooper just does everything pretty well,

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Speaker 1: pretty well. Right, That's isn't a bad thing. But you

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Speaker 1: know he is what he is. But you're right about Henry.

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Speaker 1: He blocking, he tries, he gives it everything. He has

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Speaker 1: efforts there, he tries to get in the way and

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Speaker 1: then you see him get pushed back. He can't make

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Speaker 1: the call. But when they say throw the ball, get down,

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Speaker 1: the field, make a catch, run a route across the middle,

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Speaker 1: get up to seem like you said, he can do

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Speaker 1: all that. His route acceleration, he has the best hands

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Speaker 1: of any tight end this class. He had zero drops

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Speaker 1: this year. It's just a really good player. Absolutely. Okay,

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Speaker 1: day we touched on him a minute ago, and he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's a senior Bowl, So I think it's relevant.

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Speaker 1: Leo wants to know, what do you what do you

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Speaker 1: see from Braxton Miller as a as a pro? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what how does he fit here? Is he see that

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Speaker 1: deep threat? What are you looking at if you actually

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Speaker 1: wind up drafting this guy? And this is my question,

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Speaker 1: I mean, where do you project him? I did include

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Speaker 1: him in my top fifty players. Yeah he should because

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Speaker 1: he when you're that size and you can move like

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Speaker 1: he does. Uh, and you're a good kid. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at Philip Dorset last year, taken in the first

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Speaker 1: round because he could run real fast. I mean, Brixton

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Speaker 1: Miller's bigger and can run almost as fast, and so

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Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be a transition for him. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's only played one season as a receiver and he

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Speaker 1: wasn't even a receiver. He was an h back that

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Speaker 1: that was his starting role this past year for the

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Speaker 1: Buck guys. But he did run some routes, they did

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Speaker 1: use him in different ways and they really underutilized him.

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Speaker 1: Wish we could have seen more Braxon Miller this year.

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Speaker 1: I only had about twenty six catches. But I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to have to be a gadget players first

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Speaker 1: year while he gets acclimated the pro game, learns his routes,

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Speaker 1: learns you know, how to beat NFL coverages. But by

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Speaker 1: year two, I do think Braxon Miller can start in

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Speaker 1: this league. I don't disagree with you one bit. And

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Speaker 1: I like the fact Derek Dooley is going to get

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Speaker 1: to coach him here that with on that north side.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, and I said the word comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Braxton Miller looks comfortable. He doesn't look out of place

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Speaker 1: trying to play wide receiver because you will see some

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Speaker 1: routes where he take when he starts on the slant

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Speaker 1: and he plants and he explodes inside. And I've seen

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Speaker 1: him adjust for low balls and games ball on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him. I've seen him play well. Dave. We

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Speaker 1: were watching last night, play breaks down, play breaks down,

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Speaker 1: he's extending. I mean he's having the awareness to try

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Speaker 1: and find space to get open. Former quarterback, he understands

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Speaker 1: that exactly. So you're right comfortable there is You're talking

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Speaker 1: about six one, two hundred fifteen pound guy that runs

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Speaker 1: four four two probably run better than that. I am

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Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing him at I think I think

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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna come away from the Senior Bowl going and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the scouts already know that he could play receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think America and all the and and our folks

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Speaker 1: overseas that Dan turn that follow the scouts or follow

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Speaker 1: the draft, you guys will see him as well as

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Speaker 1: well as Hey, how he plays. I think he's an

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Speaker 1: outstanding football player. How did Ohio State not make it

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Speaker 1: into the playoff? We'll never know. Yeah, they're the most

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Speaker 1: talented teams. Should have handed that ball to fifteen more

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Speaker 1: time in that Michigan State game. I'm not wrong going there.

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Speaker 1: This is this is something the Cowboys have done recently.

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Speaker 1: We've talked We've talked a lot of Miles Jack and

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Speaker 1: uh Jalen Smith. No, but Jeremy wants to hear about

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Speaker 1: some mid round, third fourth round linebacker options. Obviously with

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edgins and Damian Wilson that has been a round

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have not been afraid of. I guess just

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Speaker 1: your your middle tier guys, maybe even some guys at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl that you like that play the linebacker spot.

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Speaker 1: You've got a couple of guys there, Dan, you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Yeah, you know a guy that I

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Speaker 1: know you guys have seen quite a bit, Deon Jones

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Speaker 1: LSU A player who surprised he didn't start until his

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Speaker 1: senior year. Yeah, and you know I wondered why. I

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Speaker 1: wonder right, Yeah, I talked to him about it, and

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Speaker 1: I you know, I asked him, did not bother you

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Speaker 1: he didn't start until your senior year? He said, no,

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Speaker 1: I just waited my turn, and I was ready for

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Speaker 1: my opportunity. And he was this year as a senior

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Speaker 1: playing next to Kendall back with I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: more than ready. And where I was really impressed with

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Speaker 1: Deon Jones is his coverage. His ability to stick with

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Speaker 1: tight ends, stick backside of the backfield, A very good

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Speaker 1: reactive athleticism, and a smart player for a player that

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Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of on field reps on defense,

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Speaker 1: A pretty smart player as well. So this is a

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Speaker 1: kid that showed up at one hundred ninety five pounds.

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Speaker 1: He's filled out his frame and really made the most

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Speaker 1: of his moment. Less Miles called him a very bright player,

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Speaker 1: So I think Dion Jones. He's wearing number zero at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, so it's gonna be hard to miss

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Speaker 1: him for his number and because he's a darn good player. Yeah. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Ban Ahead. He went to my high school,

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Speaker 1: so I gotta give a shouts out to that. He

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Speaker 1: is a bright guy. I've met him before. I'm not

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Speaker 1: thrilled by his size. He I mean, he's one of

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Speaker 1: those John Javis linebackers who he's all about the speed

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Speaker 1: and less about the size. So I'm interested to see

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Speaker 1: I've I've seen him with as high as like a

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Speaker 1: third round grade, which honestly, as an LSU fan, kind

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Speaker 1: of surprises me. Um. I mean, his speed is undeniable.

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Speaker 1: He loves to hit. I define, I mean he'll he'll

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Speaker 1: out he has a future in the NFL, just as

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Speaker 1: a special teamer at the very least, but I will

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Speaker 1: be interested to see to see how well he can perform.

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Speaker 1: Him overall, I think he's a borderline top one hundred

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Speaker 1: type of player. You know that, And you know you

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Speaker 1: always tend to undervalue the guys you know, because you

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Speaker 1: don't want us top. But that's surprising to me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know he's a hell of an athlete. I'm just

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Speaker 1: not sure how well he fits into an NFL. So

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Speaker 1: you're right about the side, you know, six one two

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Speaker 1: twenty five issue. Well, we'll see officially what he weighs

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Speaker 1: in at Senior Bowl. Another guy, Tyler Madakavich from Temple,

636
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Speaker 1: and this is going to be an interesting one because

637
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: he's so productive in college over one hundred tackles the

638
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: last four seas, each of the last four seas, right,

639
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: only a seventh player ever to do that. He's not

640
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: the best athlete, not the biggest, not the strongest, five

641
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: eleven six. I think it's exactly. But we've seen these

642
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: types of guys before who you know, they don't have

643
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: the measurables, but they just find ways to make plays.

644
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: And so is Tyler Matacay which one of them. He's

645
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting evaluation of the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

646
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: let me give you a name of a guy, and

647
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people have talked about Eric Striker from

648
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: Oklahoma gotta play will I think, and he is a

649
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: he is short, and he and he and there's a

650
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: lot of times we were watching him and he and

651
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: he just four guy gets stuck trying to do something

652
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: with the tackle every single time. Now, if you could

653
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: put him free on the back side and let him run,

654
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: he can do that. He's but he is short, and

655
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: he's felt bad for him. He does that scheme, doesn't

656
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a better player, but the scheme does

657
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: him no favorites. Let me give you one more guy,

658
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's a fit, but I'd

659
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: play him as a SAM linebacker here and let him rush.

660
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: I think he's a three four outside linebacker. Is the

661
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: kid from is the kid from a Utah state? And

662
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: that's a yeah, Kyler Facrol, Yeah, I mean, yeah, he

663
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: is a He is a one of those guys that

664
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: when you watch him play, he can extend, he can control,

665
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: he can shed, and he can tackle. And what they

666
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: do is they put his hand in the dirt and

667
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: he can rush. And he's got pass rush moves. He's

668
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: a swat, swim, push grab. I mean, he's got an

669
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: idea of how to get to the quarterback. And that's

670
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: that's something though when you watch him play at the

671
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: point of attack, make plays, and then you watch him rush.

672
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I think some three four teams are

673
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna fall in love now maybe maybe again the Cowboys.

674
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: It's I had him in the second round, and he

675
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: might and he might very well go in the first.

676
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: He might very well go on first. Yeah, because he's

677
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: if you looked at the bottom of whoever those three

678
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: four teams at the bottom, keep an eye on him

679
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: at the Sea Bowl. He people are gonna Dane's gonna

680
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: be tweeting about him. You're gonna be tweeting about him,

681
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be tweeting about him. He's that kind

682
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: of football Kyler fact role. Yet I'm ready to keep

683
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: an eye on him. Uh. This is from Chris, and

684
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: I just really want to hear y'all argue, because I

685
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: assume you will. Um, He says, Joey Bosa and Jalen

686
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Ramsey are both there at four and who are you

687
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: taking and why I'm taking Ramsey myself? I had a

688
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: feeling you would for this team or just in general,

689
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: let's just do it for this team because it's easier, right,

690
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's tough because I do have Jalen

691
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Ramsey on my top fifty that I released today, Jalen

692
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: Ramsey three, Joey Bosa four, So I do have Jalen

693
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: Ramsey just and you know, a hair above. But for

694
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: this team, you know, it's all about pass rush and

695
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: if Great Carty's not back, I think I might lean

696
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: Bosa don't. I'm not sure I'm going defensive back two

697
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: years in a row. But they're both outstanding players and

698
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: we're splitting hairs at this point. I mean, both guys

699
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: are going to impact the game in different ways. They're versatile,

700
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: their tags are touched on your board and that you're

701
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: saying or you gotta. I mean it's like that you

702
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: could go either way and feel good about it. Yeah,

703
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: and not riding the fence you're not right. Well, you know,

704
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: I think because you're talking about two different positions and

705
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: to do ways they impact the game. I think Larrey

706
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: me Tonsil is a clear cut number one, and then

707
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: I think two through six or seven you could really be,

708
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: you know, interchangeable. To me, I mean, I think they're

709
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: all in the same tier. Guys like the Miles, Jack Laquon,

710
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: tread Rolls, Zeke uh Jalen Ramsey, Joey bos So. All

711
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: these guys are in that same tier where if you're

712
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: picking top five to six this year, you're gonna a

713
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: darn good play. See. But he had Zeke at number five.

714
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: It's best place. But I'm just telling him he's gonna

715
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: not do it because it's weird. I mean, we talked

716
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: about it a little bit last week, Like no other

717
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: position is like that, where I pretty much agree with

718
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Dane that I just don't know that the best running

719
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: back on the board is worth going top five, even

720
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: if he is a top Ask him who has the

721
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: least holes in his top five? He'll tell you Zeke.

722
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: We'll ask him, it's who has the least holes, and

723
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: you're tire to It's the same for quarterbacks, except the

724
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: opposite exactly. You know, good answer it's written it's you

725
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: can overlook a perfect running back because you don't want

726
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: to take him that high, but then take up dude

727
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: with a lot of questions and put him all the

728
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: way up in the top five because he plays quarterback, right,

729
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not fair, but what do he wants?

730
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: This is This is why scouts it's not a good profession.

731
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's not cons We love it, but it's

732
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: not a good profession. Get any more questions here? Day, Yeah,

733
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Johnny shout out. Anybody that uses a Garrett phrase is

734
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: good in my book. He's talking about position flex with

735
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are huge on. Uh. He's asking Kenyan Drake,

736
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: the Alabama backup UH worked in the slot, obviously plays

737
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: running back. Maybe a Dunbar type of guy. If they

738
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: opt not to resign Dunbar, is Johnny onto something here?

739
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: What do you think about young Drake? To me, Drake

740
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: is proof that there is such a thing as moving

741
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: too fast, because that's that's fair. Drake has tremendous speed

742
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: and he hits it quickly. The acceleration, the start stop

743
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: quickness is there. But he moves too fast. He doesn't

744
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: you know, he's not a chess player where he sets

745
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: up his moves and sees things and it's chao absolutely

746
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: and and you know, I think when we were watching

747
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: tape of him, you said it. He looks like a

748
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the backfield with a slim frame. Just

749
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: the way he moves and he doesn't have a big

750
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: catch radius. If if you the quarterback delivers the ball

751
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: at his chest, he's gonna catch it. It's anywhere else,

752
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna drop it. And so that's gonna limit

753
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: his value as a third down guy. But we saw

754
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: in the National Title game on special teams the impact

755
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: that he can make and and just with the ball

756
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: in his hands. He's an exciting player. So yeah, I

757
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: like Kenyan Drake, but you know he does you know,

758
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: he's a hyperactive runner and sometimes I don't get him

759
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: in trouble. Yeah, I totally agree with Dane on this,

760
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: but you're absolutely right, he's he is one of the

761
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: A fun player to watch was the Urban Kid if

762
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: you want to talk about from Santa. Yeah, Santa, Say,

763
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: who's a shorter player Tyler Ran, Yes, yeah, and you

764
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: can see what he weighs in at too, I mean

765
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty pounds. No, he's somewhere between one

766
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one hundred and eighty. He's somewhere exactly.

767
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: But but you watch him on tape and remember he

768
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: gets Auburn, he's like he's dashed that. Yeah, it's it's

769
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: like Lsu played Auburn earlier and they're running with they

770
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: were running our buddy in there and their power playing powerball,

771
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden the urban said, well, Santos

772
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: say is like, well, maybe the way to run the

773
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: ball against Auburn is just slamming at him. And they're

774
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: taking this kid. He was a fun, fun, fun player

775
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: to watch as far as the running backs, but also

776
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: but also the motion and throw him the football, yeah

777
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: he has. He has a better catch radius than what

778
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: you were talking about. Al al Borgeous, the offensive coordiner

779
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: for his hand Jose State understood how to use him

780
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: right now, was so critical watching him on tape. They

781
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: just get him in space. Let him be an athlete. Uh.

782
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: And the reason I give him a chance because he

783
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: is an undersized guy, and I do give him a chance.

784
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: It's because he's quick to read his blocks. He finds

785
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: this a little sliver of space and he goes. And

786
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: that's tough though too. I mean he gets tough, absolutely

787
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: no question. So spends very little time in the backfield,

788
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: reads it, goes, gets whatever he can and then does

789
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: it again in the next place. So I do give

790
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Evern a chance, even though he's you know, like

791
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: we said one hundred and eighty pounds, soaking a wet Yeah,

792
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: he's he's he's a fun player to watch because you

793
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: know Mike McIntyre, he used to be the coach there

794
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: is now at Colorado and Mike Kid had it going

795
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: at San Jose a little bit that they're starting to

796
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: get better players. And are you, I'm sorry, are you

797
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: convinced he's got a draft grade. Maybe he's another dumbar too,

798
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: in the sense that you can sign him after it's over.

799
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh wait, well we had that, We had that that

800
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: that situation. I had him in the six myself because

801
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking it's a trade steal with me, dan and

802
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: and sure, the height, the weight and all that's not

803
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: gonna be great. But this kid can do some things

804
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: for you as far as you can create opportunities for him.

805
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: And he's got the toughness, he's got the explosiveness, and

806
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: he's got the quickness. It's a trade steal. It's interesting

807
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: to me. Well, you just can't predict how that shakes out.

808
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: That I think we all agreed that Lucky Whitehead had

809
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: was a six or seventh round pick too, and they

810
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: were able to sign him. That's exactly where they had him. Yeah,

811
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: so you never know. I think this kid might get drafted.

812
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: I get drafted just because of traits. It might come

813
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,839
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Speaker 1: back up, gonna take some calls, So Kent, we're gonna

816
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,000
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00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,120
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Speaker 1: to learn about the draft. And we appreciate you guys,

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Speaker 1: uh liking the show, listening to the show, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a lot of this next week we're

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00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 1: shows from the Senior Bowl next week, so uh, stay

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00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,040
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00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: it all happen. So I want to get into we're

877
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: here though, we're gonna again take some calls. Kent's gonna

878
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: line them up for us. We're all doing well as

879
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: we've always hour. And just make sure you're nice to

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00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: Ken about your your question and get to it and

881
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Kent will turn it over to you. Sure. Lorenzo, North Carolina, Lorenzo, Yeah,

882
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: go ahead. Hey, Brian, I want you to pose this

883
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: question because other guys on the other show for me,

884
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, Um, sir, but this is what

885
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: I want to say them. But everybody think we should

886
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: draft the quarterback with that first peak, any of y'all

887
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: fear the fact that UM no quarterback. But except for

888
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: Romo has really done Will in this system of justing gears.

889
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: And I read on nht end that that Lanahan said

890
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: they basically ran the same plays as they did last year.

891
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: So with that unwillingness to change up, it might be

892
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: Romo is a good player that can operate this offense.

893
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: So we draft the quarterback with that first pick. Is

894
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: anybody scared that the quarterback might be okay but not

895
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: adapt then to what he does Will and just speaking

896
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: with the same system might make the quarterback, you know,

897
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback picks seem like, oh man, that's a bad pick.

898
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I'm saying. What do you

899
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: all guys think about that? All right? Thank you learn?

900
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: Thanks um. I mean, I think it's a fair I mean,

901
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: if you're going back to the season, I think it's

902
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: a fair criticism that maybe they didn't adapt the offense

903
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: or Taylor the offense the right way. But I mean

904
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about a why and I know Brandon Whedon

905
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: was a first round pick, but I think you're talking

906
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: about a wide spectrum of talent between Kellen Moore and

907
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: Matt Castle and Brandon Whedon between what you would hopefully

908
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: be getting fourth overall in the NFL Draft. I mean,

909
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: it's up to them to make that evaluation and draft

910
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: the right guy. But if they think Jared Goff is

911
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: worthy of a top five pick, I would I mean,

912
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: that should be a guy that's going to excel in

913
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: damn near any offense. Of course, I mean, and obviously

914
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: the staff needs to taylor it properly to him and

915
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff, but you're talking about a

916
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: different type of talent level. No one knows his offense

917
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: better than Jason Garrett, and so they're not going to

918
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback at four unless Jason Garrett is totally

919
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: on board with it. You know, it's not like the

920
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: scout's gonna say, well, we like this guy, we're going

921
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: to draft him, so you got to figure out how

922
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: to use them. They're not going to draft the quarterback

923
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 1: and four unless Jason Garrett says, yes, I want this guy.

924
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: So you know, I like I said, no one knows

925
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: his offense better than Jason Garrett. So if they draft

926
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: a quarterback at four, Jason Garrett must be pretty sold that.

927
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: You know, it's a guy that he can work with,

928
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: and you know he'll find out next week about Carson Wentz.

929
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: I mean no One in the NFL. After next week,

930
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: we'll have a better understanding of Carson Wentz, his thought process,

931
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: his strengths, his weaknesses better than Jason Garrett. And that's

932
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: a huge advantage in something that will really go along

933
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: with the organization. Will have a great group. Yeah, I

934
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: think too, though. If we a bunch of names about Manziel,

935
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: we've also heard RG three. If they're willing to go

936
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: out and try and get one of those guys, Scott

937
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: Lenahan and them had better changed the offensive. But if

938
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: there's one of those guys, no doubt that that'll tell

939
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: you a lot about the willingness to say, Okay, we're

940
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: going to continue to do this or we're gonna try

941
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: and do whatever. They didn't do a very good job

942
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: of adapting to what their quarterbacks were able to do

943
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: last year. In my opinion, it's I think you're absolutely right,

944
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: and I think one way or another, it's gonna be

945
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: really interesting because I mean, it could be Kelly Moore,

946
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: it could be Jared Goff, it could be John Manziel.

947
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: It's hard to say right now, but I mean there's

948
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a free agent signed

949
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: at quarterback and I think there'll be a draft pick too,

950
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: maybe not for but somewhere along a lot. So there's

951
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna be some new new faces and new talent at

952
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback spot, I would expect. So it'll be interesting

953
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: to see how the coaches deal with that. Okay, Camp

954
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: Connor and Virginia Connor, go ahead, Hey guys, I'm calling

955
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: about a few players that I'm interested in the draft.

956
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead to share. William Jackson. William Jackson from a

957
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: gap ahead, got him Senior Bowl guy, and um William Jackson,

958
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: Nate sud Film and a few other players know it. Spence,

959
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: I know he's probably the late first round. And uh,

960
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Dodd from Clemson. Okay, thank you very much, Okay,

961
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: thank you for your call. Jackson will be the Senior Bowl,

962
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: Spence is at the Senior Bowl, and Dodd is coming

963
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: out as a junior incept as a quarterback Indiana, Indiana.

964
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: And see him at the Shrine game. Uh you see

965
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: the arm he can sling it, um it just when

966
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: he slings it. I don't think he has a great

967
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: understanding of where it's gonna end up all the time,

968
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: and so I think that touch is really a question

969
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: mark with Sudfeld. He's going to be one of those

970
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: late round developmental types. Uh. Big, he's tall. Uh. He has,

971
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: like I said, the arm, but you can sling the

972
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: ball over the field. But the accuracy, Uh, some of

973
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: his mechanics needs him tweaking. He has a wide bass

974
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: um and then just is overall touch to all levels

975
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: of the field. So I think Sudfeld is draftable, but

976
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: late and as a developmental guy. Yeah, and I will

977
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: I will talk about you mentioned about Spence and when

978
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: you watch him play, the tighter they play him, the

979
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: harder it is for him to play. You play him

980
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: a little bit wider and allow him to get going.

981
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: You will not see a guy in this draft. It

982
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: has the explosiveness of him coming off the football in

983
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: my end now and and you might think both. I

984
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to put words in your

985
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: mouth or anything about that, but I think when you

986
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: watch Spence play, I think he is the best pass

987
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: rusher in this draft. When you when you talk about

988
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: how you can attack the corner, capture the corner and

989
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: get flat in a hurry. This kid, there's a reason

990
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: why he went to Ohio State. I get I get

991
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: it purely baggage that's putting him down like this. I mean,

992
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's, it's, it's it's and it's the situation

993
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: where it's it's narcotics, it's drugs. And we've seen before,

994
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about the Honey Badgers and guys like that. Well,

995
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: a quick background, It is ecstasy. That was that was

996
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: the big thing. It wasn't this isn't like a weed

997
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: thing or something that you know, people downplay. He had

998
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: a bad ecstasy problem. And sure he was kicked out

999
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: of Ohio state, banned from the Big ten. But you know,

1000
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: he's done a lot of work on him and people

1001
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: still talk highly of his character and highly of the

1002
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: person that he is. He just got caught up in

1003
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: some bad things. But you know, you have to be

1004
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: comfortable with the person before you can be comfortable with

1005
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: the player. And so is he fully clean? Is he

1006
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: fully off this? Uh? This bad habit? You know, no

1007
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: one can truly answer that. Let me see if I

1008
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: got this right. Highly talented mercurial pass rusher, uh kind

1009
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: of maybe a really high profile prospect who's falling down

1010
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: the draft board because of off the field problems, maybe

1011
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: a drug problem. Sure sounds kind of familiar. Yeah, I

1012
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: think he's fallow in the second round, though, I don't

1013
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: think like Randy gregorys No, this this catch a different

1014
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher than will he be Will he be there

1015
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: at thirty four, because that's you don't need him to

1016
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: fall to sixty four. He's a wild card as long

1017
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: as John Snyder's in the league. Well, I have him

1018
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: going to Arizona right now in my first round. Boll.

1019
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a perfect guy for Bruce arians a

1020
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: reclamation project. They did it before. Oh yeah, I don't

1021
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get out of the first round. He's

1022
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: just too talented unless something happen, relapse something. I mean,

1023
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: it's too familiar to happen again. But I mean, if

1024
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: he falls into that range. Though they've traded up for Lawrence,

1025
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: they trade up high for if this dude's as good

1026
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: as y'all say, Oh, he's good. I haven't watched him yet,

1027
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: but if he's sitting there, he'll be the bus. If

1028
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: he's at twenty seven and you're sitting there at thirty

1029
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: four and he's that good, he'll be the buzz. He'll

1030
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: be the buzz at the Senior Bowl. Quickly on William Jackson,

1031
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: a player that the Cowboys wild coaches at the Senior Bowl.

1032
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: William Jackson tall, rangey player, long strides. He had forty

1033
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: eight passes to fen in college. I mean it's it's

1034
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: a school record for a defense that doesn't get their

1035
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: hands on many football. This kid's a one man team.

1036
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: He can do that, does a lot of wide receiver

1037
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: like things at the catch point. Absolutely, and Dodd was

1038
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: a guy Clemson. We saw him in the National Champion.

1039
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: I still think Austin's a better player. He made a

1040
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: name for himself beating up on that right tackle from Alabama, though,

1041
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: So sure, Dave, Okay, Kent, who we got, Michael and

1042
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: san Antonio. Michael, you're on. Go ahead, Hey, guys, I

1043
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: have been ever since Romo broke his collarbone. I called

1044
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: in earlier. I've been a golf guy all year, Lung.

1045
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: I've watched all his games, but I have to be

1046
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: careful as a fan because I need the scouts like

1047
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: you to break his film down to see does it

1048
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: translate to the pro game, Because if you look like

1049
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: at Andrey Whare David Klingler, This guys said all kinds

1050
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: of records. They come into the pros. Their game just

1051
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: didn't match. So I wanted to know, have you been

1052
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: breaking him down and what do you think he translates

1053
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: into the pros? And do you think the Cowboys that's

1054
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: someone they're really looking at. Yeah, I think they're looking

1055
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: at him. They're doing all these quarterbacks, that's the thing.

1056
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: But thank you very much for the call, Michael Dan.

1057
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on golf? Well, you know he

1058
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: comes golf. I didn't say golf. I said golf. Okay,

1059
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: he comes from that air raide off not a golfer. Yeah,

1060
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: I don't ever say golf. I say golf. That air

1061
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: raid offense. It makes it tough at times. It's an

1062
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: offense that's predicated on West Coast principles, quick routes, and

1063
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: so he made all the adjustments from the sidelines. You

1064
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: didn't see him make calls in the huddle that type

1065
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: of thing. So it's not an ideal scheme to groom

1066
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but it does teach rhythm, it does teach

1067
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: decision making, and so for a player with his mental process,

1068
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: that's what I'm really impressed with with Goff. Because he

1069
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have the big arm, he doesn't have that. He

1070
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: has a good enough arm strength, but just it's not great.

1071
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: He's a little leaner than you want. So the physical

1072
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: traits aren't outstanding, but they're good enough. But where he's

1073
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: really impressive is intelligence in the way he sees the field.

1074
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: He can use his eyes to hold the safety, can

1075
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: do a lot of those things that he's gonna need

1076
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: to do in the NFL. So I love his pocket awareness,

1077
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: the way he can move, sense pressure, extend plays and

1078
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball. So to me, Jared Goff,

1079
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, can he start right away? Sure? Could he

1080
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: use some time? Yeah, I'd love to give him some time,

1081
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna find success early. There's two

1082
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: things that I really liked about the and I have

1083
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: lynch over him. You're no, I'm not really, not at all,

1084
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: not at all. I do. I think that the two things.

1085
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: I like how quickly the ball gets out of his hand.

1086
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: And I love his toughness because his offensive line at

1087
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: Cal was awful, and he takes a ton of hits.

1088
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: And he will stand in the pocket and he will

1089
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: deliver the football. And you can watch him when the

1090
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: pockets clean. He can make throws when the pockets dirty.

1091
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: He can make throws, ball gets out of his hands quick,

1092
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: and he's very, very tough. Though I will say this though,

1093
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: the smart part of it. The kid will make some

1094
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: poor decisions. Now if you watch the Utah game, if

1095
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: he only watched the Utah game, you wouldn't draft him

1096
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: off the Utah game. And I believe he had five

1097
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: interceptions or no, eight interceptions or so, but five of

1098
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: them more in this one game. And then two or

1099
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: three of them were like bobbles, yeah exactly, and there

1100
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: were two. The last one he threw was just the

1101
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, and they're going for the game winning drive

1102
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: and they're trying to and he just throws it and

1103
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: it's a poor decision. So you know, just keep in mind,

1104
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: though guy through a ton of passes. There's some sometimes

1105
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: though that the decision making. And that's all quarterbacks though

1106
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: we've we've seen Romo and you could say all these

1107
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have had but that was one where you're going

1108
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: for the game winner and you have a chance to

1109
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, chance to get it done, and you make

1110
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: that decision. Those are the types of things it scout.

1111
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: It sticks into Scout's mind a little bit. This is

1112
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: elementary and it's not a great reason to draft or

1113
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: not draft a guy. But is is there a quarterback

1114
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: that's come out of an narrated system? I'm Tim Couch

1115
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: comes to mind immediately, And not that he had a

1116
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: great pro career. I mean, do we have a precedent

1117
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: for this well, and it's and not to you know,

1118
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: to expand it to just you know, these different types

1119
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: of offenses. Yeah, I mean Cam Newton with well, yeah,

1120
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota last year. I mean it's you know, all

1121
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: these off college most of these college offenses sure are

1122
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: asking them to do things differently than what pro teams

1123
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: are gonna ask him to. No, so it's there is

1124
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: an adjustment, there's a little bit of an unknown because

1125
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be asked to do different things. But

1126
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: that's why I do like golf more than you know,

1127
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: say Lynch, because Golf I think has the mental process

1128
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: to do it, where Lynch. I'm not saying he doesn't,

1129
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: I just have it. I'm not sold that he does.

1130
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Lynch is just so young in

1131
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: quarterback years. He's such a young player that he just

1132
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: needs more reps. And I just don't have as good

1133
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: of a feel for his future as I do feel

1134
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: about golf. Yeah, I just to me And it's not

1135
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: just falling in love with measurables, because I think scouts

1136
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: get in trouble that way thinking and it more times

1137
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: than not, you think, oh, he's this tall, he's this big.

1138
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: He's just I just think that in a in an

1139
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: offense where you have to quarterbacks, I think have to

1140
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: be able again, be tall, make the throws, be mobile,

1141
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: get away from trouble. I think in the NFL those

1142
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: are things, those two trades you have to have. Sure,

1143
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: the offense he's in, they throw the ball sideways, but

1144
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: when you watch him throw slants and ends and things

1145
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: like that, he can rip it and he really can

1146
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: rip it. And I and I'm betting on that you're

1147
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: going to see more of that in the league than

1148
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: the ball going sideways. Yeah, you know, and so that's

1149
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: kind of what I you know, I envision with him.

1150
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: I have nothing against the cow quarterback. I really really don't.

1151
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: And if he's picked, you know, I can understand it

1152
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: that that's that's on their board. That's the way it

1153
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: should be. So you like the player. I like the player.

1154
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: I have no problem with player. Okay, let's get into

1155
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: your top of fifty. You put that out on CBS

1156
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: and kind of go through as we have just a

1157
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: couple of minutes here left on the show, kind of

1158
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: go through some of the highlights and and and some

1159
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: of the things and some of the decisions you had

1160
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: to make as you as you went down that board,

1161
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I have a guy here for this reason,

1162
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: and give people a little bit of a understanding of

1163
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: why you put a particular player where you did. Yeah,

1164
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: and I think at the top, no surprise, Larry Tunsil.

1165
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: To me, he's the best player in this draft. And

1166
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: then you know, like I said before, the probably one

1167
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: through six is where I feel really good about that

1168
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: first tier guys like Miles Jack, Jalen Ramsey, Bosa Zeke

1169
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: and Treadwell um At Jared Goss my first quarterback, he's

1170
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: at number nine, and then I have Wentz at twelve,

1171
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: So those two guys are pretty closed. And then I

1172
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: have Lynch all the way down at twenty nine. So

1173
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of a Again, it's just more I

1174
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: like Lynch, I like the tools. I think he's gonna

1175
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: start in this league. I just don't have as good

1176
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: of a feel for what his future looks like. But

1177
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: we do have twelve players on my top fifty that

1178
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: are currently on the Senior Bowl roster and a couple

1179
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: other guys that would have been. But yes, who was

1180
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: a player that you struggled with the most on your board?

1181
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: And it might be uh, Kim dici ol Miss defensive tackle.

1182
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: He's one of the top ten talents in this class,

1183
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. He's just not one of

1184
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: the top ten football players. And that's where you have

1185
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: to struggle with, you know, where to put him with

1186
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: his off field issues. On the field, you know, he

1187
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: had what seven and a half sacks in three years.

1188
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: You just want more production for a player with that

1189
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: type of ability. You see the flashes, they're outstanding. They

1190
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: just it's not consistent. At this point, a lot of

1191
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: people are going to be wrong about him. You think

1192
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: about Kim dici ye wrong in the sense that he's

1193
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: being I feel like he's being undervalued right now. You

1194
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: you you you think that he needs to be in

1195
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: the top ten. I think I kind of feel like

1196
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: he would be in the top ten if not for

1197
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: that episode with the hotel room right after the season ended.

1198
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean and and yeah, the on field production hasn't

1199
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: been great by his standard. I mean we're talking about

1200
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: the number one overall recruit when he came out of

1201
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: high school. I covered him. Um, it hadn't been great.

1202
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he's I mean, he's a freaks

1203
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: sometimes when you watch we go back and you watch

1204
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: the Alabama game because we were watching the center, you know,

1205
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: watching Kelly play and and and you forgot about him

1206
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: getting up the field and getting into tackles for loss

1207
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: and things like that. It's way too easy of a

1208
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: comparison because they went to the same school. But he

1209
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: reminds me of Hardy in the sense that I think

1210
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: you could put him at almost every position on the

1211
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: line if you wanted to. I mean, it would be effective. Yeah,

1212
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: I see. And that's I disagree a little bit there

1213
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: because I think he's more of a three three. I mean,

1214
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: he is a defensive tackle, he is, but I think

1215
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: he's a three only because he struggles a two gap

1216
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: and you know, I just I don't know if you

1217
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: get him up the field, that's the whole thing. If

1218
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: you get a run gap attack, and I and honestly,

1219
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: I question how much he loves football, how much does

1220
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: he want to be great? You know? I mean, how

1221
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: how much does he want to be great? That as

1222
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: a criticism the coach or anybody tells me a guy

1223
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: doesn't like football that immediately, and it's not that he doesn't,

1224
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: it's just you don't know, and that's an unknown right now.

1225
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: And other things more important, How badly does you know

1226
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: a lot of these players are gifted, but they have

1227
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: to put the work in to be great. And I'm

1228
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: not sure Kimdc's gonna put the work into it. If

1229
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: you like, lined him up like at the way in

1230
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, just lined him up, you know,

1231
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: and did measure. I mean, he would be like no doubt.

1232
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: Everything else about him makes me feel like he falls

1233
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: down the board a little bit. But your bottom five

1234
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: guys forty five already burns Miami guy that plays speeds

1235
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: there Um, I think there's a lot of potential for burns.

1236
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: Vernon Butler, Louisiana attack. He's on the Cowboys back with

1237
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: a Senior Bowl. Uh. Lower bodies quick, upper bodies strong,

1238
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: so a lot to work with their Josh Dawson unfortunately,

1239
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: the wrist injury is not healthy yet, so he will

1240
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: not be at to see your bowl, but a player

1241
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: that goes and gets the ball. Jason Spriggs at forty eight,

1242
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: Indianna tackle, very athletic, former tight end, you know, yeah,

1243
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty five pounds when he showed up.

1244
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: Four year starter. I think that he's a future NFL starter.

1245
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: Braxon Millard forty nine, we talked, talked, touched on him

1246
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: and his athletic potential. Will get a close look at

1247
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: him in mobile and at fifty Ryan Kelly another guy

1248
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: we talked about. Top center in this class. Absolutely. I

1249
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: can't get over how exciting it is this year. Is

1250
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: that you know, you're talking about Dame's top fifty. You're

1251
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: talking about guys who could theoretically be in the Cowboys

1252
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: range with their third round pick because they're picking so high.

1253
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, so that's true picking in the sixties. You're

1254
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: right there. Maybe some guys don't like some teams don't

1255
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: like these guys as much as the Cowboys do. So

1256
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna be able to get some I

1257
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: mean not there's always talent in the draft, but you're

1258
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: talking about getting guys in the third round who are

1259
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: second And there were a couple of guys that I

1260
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: hated leaving. You know, Tyler Boyd from Pitt Kentroll Brothers Missouri,

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Speaker 1: Josh Perry, Ohio State. There's a guys I really wanted

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Speaker 1: to include my top fifty. I just I ran out

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Speaker 1: of room room. So you know, you're always an evolving list,

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Speaker 1: though you never know exactly. I'll do four of these.

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Speaker 1: I'll do one right after the combine, one after Pro Days,

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Speaker 1: and then one final one before the Draft. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: that's all the time we have in the Draft Show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody out there for making us a part of

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Speaker 1: your day or your evening. Whenever you get a chance

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. We're gonna have when the draft shows

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Speaker 1: are gonna be on. Will the crew will all be

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Speaker 1: there at Mobile the whole entire week. Dane will be

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Speaker 1: with us, He's covering it for CBS and Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Dave and I are going to stay for

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Speaker 1: the football game, so we'll have a coverage from that.

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Speaker 1: So for Dane Burglar, David Hellman, executive producer, Kent Garrison,

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Bross. Thank you so much for joining us

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Speaker 1: to the draft show. We will see you from Mobile,

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Speaker 1: Alabama with more coverage of your NFL Draft