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Speaker 4: Hey, so listen for one before I even start, all
Speaker 4: the mothers that are in the chat that are watching,
Speaker 4: I want to tell you happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 4: I hope this day was relaxing and fulfilling. Obviously, one
Speaker 4: day for you guys doesn't do enough justice for the
Speaker 4: job that you have to do twenty four to seven.
Speaker 4: But again, I hope it was enjoyable. So for one
Speaker 4: would it being Mother's Day. I went to go see
Speaker 4: my mom. I went to see Hurricane Paul at the
Speaker 4: cemetery in Opa Laka.
Speaker 2: I want to see my grandma.
Speaker 4: I went out there and played a little gospel music.
Speaker 4: I shared a few tiers. I shared a few tiers.
Speaker 4: So right right after that, I left and I came
Speaker 4: out and I look. I looked at the park. You know,
Speaker 4: I've seen people playing basketball. So I put it on
Speaker 4: the side of the on the side of the grass,
Speaker 4: you know, just the Washington Boy hoop for a little bit.
Speaker 4: And I look and I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 4: Somebody said something to me, why come out in hoop.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I ain't got no shoes. So
Speaker 4: I went to the back of the trunk. I had
Speaker 4: my little tennis shoes, not not like really like real
Speaker 4: tennis shoes, you know, not not for hooping. Went out there,
Speaker 4: you know, talk a little trash, you know, get warmed up,
Speaker 4: get jaw moving, and so I don't think the boy, no,
Speaker 4: like I really do this, Like I can really come
Speaker 4: off the bench for any NBA team right now and
Speaker 4: be six Man of the Year.
Speaker 2: So bomb check it. We go out there.
Speaker 4: The first game, Pepper, Paul, everybody in the chat for
Speaker 4: mind me. I know all my boys watching man smoke
Speaker 4: Matt Piccolo. You ain't Matt yet. You got to earn
Speaker 4: that name. I played right first game up, whooped them
Speaker 4: boys off the court. Then I was talking to a
Speaker 4: young fella right he was. He was talking trash to me.
Speaker 4: Uh he was talking trash to me, talk about what
Speaker 4: you gonna do and he and he liked that, and
Speaker 4: he liked this and whatever whatnot. So I told him, okay, back,
Speaker 4: let's run it. So second game, he he didn't hit
Speaker 4: a he didn't hit a shot, he didn't hit a
Speaker 4: two or he yapping now then boom he got another point.
Speaker 4: They running plays like we're in the NBA. I'm saying,
Speaker 4: if you really like that call the ISO, tell everybody
Speaker 4: move out the way and put the ball on the
Speaker 4: ground and get it off the bustle. He didne had it,
Speaker 4: even had his little full points, so they won the game.
Speaker 4: But he got carried.
Speaker 2: The person that was doing all the talking.
Speaker 4: He got carried. So he was out there. He had
Speaker 4: about he had full points, so he was like a PJ.
Speaker 4: Tucker or Patrick Beverley like that. I no, no disrespect
Speaker 4: because I'm learning the game. So I understand. He like,
Speaker 4: I'm not calling them role players, but he was a
Speaker 4: role player today and he got carried.
Speaker 2: Matt yeh huh. That's what they are, the role players.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, But he can't be talking to me
Speaker 4: like that when I'm like, I'm like Anthony Edwards when
Speaker 4: I'm on the court, I'm like Anthony Edwards with the
Speaker 4: explosion of a prime d Rose. That's what they They
Speaker 4: ain't really get that today. Because I wanted I wanted
Speaker 4: to facilitate. I wanted to be like John Stockton to day.
Speaker 4: I wanted to be like even Ash. No, I'm telling
Speaker 4: that God lie for you before I lie to tell you.
Speaker 1: Hear me.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was out there cutting up.
Speaker 4: So I know all my boys watching. I'm gona see
Speaker 4: y'all next Saturday, eight o'clock in the morning. Anybody in
Speaker 4: the chat, anybody in the chat that lives in Miami
Speaker 4: Pepper Park Saturday and Sunday at eight am, come out
Speaker 4: there and I'm gonna show you why I should be
Speaker 4: in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 4: Shout out to all my boys man at the city,
Speaker 4: love Haiti, at the beans, at the subs where y'all from.
Speaker 2: I love y'all.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate y'all for letting me hoop it y'all today.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see y'all every week. A Matt Well, yeah
Speaker 4: it is mine boy.
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all notice through all that story
Speaker 2: and two on the court today, No, no, I I
Speaker 2: would want to win. No no, no, you lost that way
Speaker 2: you lost.
Speaker 1: I was one and one, all right. So the Nuggets
Speaker 1: fight their way back, and now they've clawed home court back.
Speaker 1: They lose the first two games at home, go on
Speaker 1: the road and beat the Timberwolves two games on the
Speaker 1: road at eight to Old Spur at the end of
Speaker 1: the first half was the difference in the ball game.
Speaker 1: The Nuggets win one fifteen seven to even the series
Speaker 1: at two.
Speaker 2: As they head back to for Game five and Ball.
Speaker 1: Arena on Tuesday, Nicola Jokic showed everybody why he's the MVP.
Speaker 1: Don't let it, don't get twisted, but O Joe, if
Speaker 1: you watch this game, you know, if you go back
Speaker 1: and you follow the Nuggets since they kind of been
Speaker 1: the Nuggets, Yes, Sir, Aaron Gordon is gonna have one
Speaker 1: game in every series that he's gonna do something spectacular.
Speaker 2: Gonna We saw it. We saw it the last series
Speaker 2: against the Lakers.
Speaker 1: He twenty nine and fourteen Tonight he was twenty seven
Speaker 1: on level of twelve, played forty one minutes, seven rebound,
Speaker 1: six assists. To excuse me, twenty seven points, seven rebound,
Speaker 1: six assists, either eleven twelve from the floor, he's two
Speaker 1: or two from the three point line. Yoke fifteen or
Speaker 1: twenty six. He got a little foul trou up for
Speaker 1: thirty five, seven and seven, and Jamal Murray had a
Speaker 1: stretch there where he couldn't couldn't miss.
Speaker 2: He was eight of seventeen, three or seven from the three.
Speaker 2: He had nineteen points.
Speaker 1: Holiday Justice Holiday came up the bench three or six
Speaker 1: from the four to three or five from the three,
Speaker 1: and Christan Brown came in. He was three or four
Speaker 1: from the floor, one of one from the three fourth
Speaker 1: line level points. And that's the difference. Ant man with
Speaker 1: a man. He is home for Game three.
Speaker 2: He carrying everybody on.
Speaker 4: But Cat, somebody, somebody got that tribute.
Speaker 1: Ain't knowing somebody it is Cat. Cat is the All Star.
Speaker 1: Cat Is was the Rookie of the year. Cat is
Speaker 1: the is the guy. He needs to carry his weight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we can't look at what he had a double
Speaker 1: dumb Come on, man, Cat was five of eighteen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirteen point twelve rebounds.
Speaker 2: You can't do that now with four quarters.
Speaker 4: Now with four quarters, if you, if you, if you're
Speaker 4: gonna have a chance, listen, I've been watching the NBA.
Speaker 2: So I'm feeling good now. I'm finna talk. I'm i'
Speaker 2: feeling really good. I'm feeling really good now. So if you're.
Speaker 4: Gonna have a chance of playing, you need your superstar
Speaker 4: to show up. Cat is a superstar. You can't have
Speaker 4: off nights. You explained it to me the best sometime
Speaker 4: with the role players, when they get the chance to
Speaker 4: play and they have opportunity to be in the game.
Speaker 4: They have to make those shots. Yes, in the first
Speaker 4: two games, hell the Wolves, the Wolves is up two. Oh, yes,
Speaker 4: this was up to Oh how did Cat play in
Speaker 4: those games? Say well, you're sufficient from the field. So
Speaker 4: if they're gonna have a chance, Cat, we need your baby,
Speaker 4: We need we need you to step up.
Speaker 2: You got to. I have a question. I have one question.
Speaker 4: As big as Cat is, please hear me. Why is
Speaker 4: he not Why is he not in the block? Why
Speaker 4: he not down in the post? Why is he at
Speaker 4: the three point line? He should not be coming out
Speaker 4: retrieving the ball to three point line calling for I soles,
Speaker 4: call of a pick.
Speaker 2: Come on, what we're doing.
Speaker 1: But that's the way the game has expanded. We see
Speaker 1: these guys seven foot tall. Look at look at chat Holmbren,
Speaker 1: He's seven two seven three. Look at Wimby, look at
Speaker 1: Prizingers Joel mb shoots a lot of three. That's where
Speaker 1: the game is added O Joe, because the value is
Speaker 1: in the three point shot.
Speaker 4: I understand the values. I understand the values in the
Speaker 4: three point shot. But you Cat, Cat, I need you
Speaker 4: to be a swift, a Swiss army knife. We know
Speaker 4: you can shoot the three. We know you got a
Speaker 4: mid range game, why not start down in the block?
Speaker 4: Why not I start down in the post and see
Speaker 4: you can get Joker and foul trouble, tire him out
Speaker 4: a little bit early in the game. You know, you
Speaker 4: gotta make them work and then change your game up,
Speaker 4: find different ways, find different ways to facilitate get the ball,
Speaker 4: and then work your game that way, as opposed to
Speaker 4: just trying to play for mid range. Out start for
Speaker 4: the start, start for the block. First man man Nigga
Speaker 4: asked for that, ask for that pen, come on now.
Speaker 1: But that's that's been a lot of issues that people
Speaker 1: have taken with Cat because he's so skilled and we
Speaker 1: know you can shoot the ball from there, but you're
Speaker 1: seven foot tall and you can post, and the most
Speaker 1: nights you're gonna have because of Rudi's on the court,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have an advantage on the block. If you
Speaker 1: you're so choosing not granted, not granted with Rudy in
Speaker 1: the game. See, look, I understand they're playing well, but
Speaker 1: it didn't make no sense to me because Rudy can't
Speaker 1: do anything but play on the block. So if you
Speaker 1: put Cat on the block, where you're gonna put Rudy. Listen,
Speaker 1: I ain't going Rudy.
Speaker 4: Rotate, rotate that ship, rot who running the point? You
Speaker 4: moved come down Cat in the block, rotated around.
Speaker 2: That's what you gotta do.
Speaker 4: Run specific plays for Cat early in the game where
Speaker 4: he's down in the block. Were not shooting mid range
Speaker 4: or out three, call of the picks.
Speaker 2: What you're doing, I'm doubling off Rudy. Go bear. Rudy
Speaker 2: is not going to.
Speaker 1: Do anything but do a put a put back, dunk,
Speaker 1: a tipion so I don't have to worry about him
Speaker 1: outside of five feet. So that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: But that's That's been some of the that's been some
Speaker 1: of the qualms with with Cat is that he spends
Speaker 1: so much time outside on the perimeter, the hovering around
Speaker 1: the three point line.
Speaker 2: When he's skilled, he can pay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can play with his back to the back,
Speaker 1: but that's not what he chooses to do because guys
Speaker 1: that play with their back to the basket, they look
Speaker 1: at that is.
Speaker 2: Old school, you know, antiquated.
Speaker 1: You know, ain't nobody playing like Patrick, You ain't nobody
Speaker 1: playing like Elijah Wanted, David Robinson and Tim Duncan.
Speaker 2: Those guys are gone.
Speaker 4: It's about It's about having a package. It's about having
Speaker 4: a package. The more package you have, the better you are.
Speaker 4: That's the point of having a Swiss army knife, having
Speaker 4: multiple things you can cut with. So if you know
Speaker 4: you got a package, and you can go down in
Speaker 4: the post in the block, and you can play like that,
Speaker 4: and you got to mid range. So that affects the
Speaker 4: team you play defensively. They got to play you multiple ways.
Speaker 1: I agree, you got to use all that shit, but
Speaker 1: you you you, you preach it to the choir though,
Speaker 1: I need you to get that to the congregation.
Speaker 4: Oh don't care. I mean, hey, listen, after this, I'm
Speaker 4: way for Anti shower. I'm away away for Anti. I'm
Speaker 4: gona waiting the cool down. I'm gonna call him. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna talk to him, man.
Speaker 2: Man, tell him get his May you sell one? You
Speaker 2: about what to eighty?
Speaker 1: Cat was five of eighteen. He had thirteen points and
Speaker 1: twelve rebounds.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: He needs They need to be able to match. Let's say,
Speaker 1: Yoke and Cat play to a standstill, right, Okay? Who
Speaker 1: did something with Aaron Gordon? What we're gonna do about
Speaker 1: those twenty some points? Who off sets that. That's where
Speaker 1: cat Okay, you supposed to offset that. Right now, we
Speaker 1: can play two on two now with Conley? Who else
Speaker 1: who starts Conley, Jane Daniels, McDaniel, excuse me, and Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 1: Now we could offset the other three. Man, it's hey,
Speaker 1: I stuck with the Nuggets. I said, no, I thought
Speaker 1: the Nuggets had to be I thought the Nuggets would win,
Speaker 1: mister harp. They're not going down. You're not sweeping the
Speaker 1: likelihood of you sweeping champs, champions, and they're not and
Speaker 1: they're not injured. They got too much pride to let
Speaker 1: that happen.
Speaker 4: Sweet, not only pride. Do you think experience plays a factor? Yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure, experience plays a factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah they've been there, done that. Yeah, absolutely, Man, they
Speaker 1: never get bothered. Look how many times they were down
Speaker 1: to the Lakers down twelve, down sixteen, down twenty.
Speaker 4: And when matter and when you blink, they back in
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 2: Look at that the.
Speaker 1: Timber Wolves right there in the game, and then eight
Speaker 1: quick points boom, boom boom, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's back to a seventeen sixteen, seventeen point ball game.
Speaker 1: Just in the blink, of a NYE. But you knew
Speaker 1: Yo wasn't going to continue to be this inefficient. You
Speaker 1: knew eventually he's gonna get that touch, You're gonna get
Speaker 1: his range back. And the question was when was Aaron
Speaker 1: Goring gonna have that game? Well he had it tonight
Speaker 1: and it couldn't come at a better time. So now
Speaker 1: they go back to Denver and the Timberwolves got their
Speaker 1: work cut.
Speaker 2: We know ant Man is gonna beat ant Man. The
Speaker 2: question is can Cat?
Speaker 1: Can Cat give you twenty five to thirty with twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen rebounds, because that's what it's gonna take, that's what
Speaker 1: it's gonna take. Dang well, give them a give the
Speaker 1: Nuggets credit, oh Joe that look, they got a three.
Speaker 2: Time MVP, that the reigning champs.
Speaker 1: They know what it's like to be battle tested, they
Speaker 1: know what it's like to have their backs against the wall.
Speaker 1: They knew they couldn't go down O three. They know
Speaker 1: they can't beat down three one. And now there's no
Speaker 1: margin of eraror that. Now you gotta win all. You
Speaker 1: gotta win the next four games, or you gotta win
Speaker 1: the next three game. Yeah, now a now is the
Speaker 1: best two out of three and two of the three
Speaker 1: games are on our home court. I like our they're thinking,
Speaker 1: I like our chances now. Yeah, they And you can't
Speaker 1: keep spotting the Nuggets because if you go back and
Speaker 1: look at game three, they spotted them. Let them get
Speaker 1: out there, ten fifteen to twenty points games over, they
Speaker 1: spent som time. You exert so much energy trying to
Speaker 1: get back into the game. When you're down fifteen, you're
Speaker 1: down eighteen points. It's hard. And then when you get close,
Speaker 1: you get eight, and then you get careless with the ball,
Speaker 1: you have a turnover, and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: an eight point lead now is a ten to twelve,
Speaker 1: fourteen sixteen.
Speaker 2: Damn. Yeah, we was right there. But give the Nuggets credit.
Speaker 1: They win behind a great performance by Nicola Jokic and
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon, and they send it back tied to to
Speaker 1: to Denver and they played game five on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: The Pacers dominate.
Speaker 1: The Knicks shot the ball well, making fifty seven percent
Speaker 1: of the shot knocking out fourteen three.
Speaker 2: The Knicks looks sluggish, a step slow.
Speaker 1: The Nova Knicks combined for twenty seven points, ten of
Speaker 1: thirty six from the floor, one of thirteen from the
Speaker 1: three point line and the combined and the combined trio
Speaker 1: was minus ninety six and plus minus.
Speaker 2: The game started.
Speaker 4: When the game start, that the beginning of the game
Speaker 4: told you how the game is gonna go. The beginning
Speaker 4: of the game, when the Pacers nick game started, and
Speaker 4: the Pacers were hitting shot after shot after shot, and
Speaker 4: I think at one point it was when it was
Speaker 4: it might have been seventeen nine. I might be wrong,
Speaker 4: My memory might might be wrong. I think it might
Speaker 4: have been seventeen nine. And from that point on, I
Speaker 4: knew it was gonna be struggle Bus. The rest of
Speaker 4: the game. I knew was gonna be struggle Bus.
Speaker 1: Well, this might've been a good thing for them because
Speaker 1: they get the rest. Because you got to think about it,
Speaker 1: they've playing some crazy minutes. Oh joe, ye huh, A
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, them legs. You see how wildly those
Speaker 1: legs look. You keep playing forty eight and forty six
Speaker 1: and forty four minutes at that intensity. Hey, they got
Speaker 1: guess what they got twenty four minutes, twenty two minutes.
Speaker 1: Brunton played, thirty one minutes, Heart played twenty four minutes.
Speaker 1: They need they look it's too too We're going back home.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be in our building and let's see k A.
Speaker 1: Now I picked the Pacers, Yeah, because I think because
Speaker 1: they can run. I thought there they are more rounded team.
Speaker 1: Their deeper team. I think the Knicks starting five is better.
Speaker 1: But where the Pacers make up the ground is where
Speaker 1: they bring up, bring up, bring the bench into So yeah, so.
Speaker 4: With you talking about the minutes that the players are playing,
Speaker 4: Josh Hart, David Devincenzo, Devin Cenzo, my bad, apologies, Josh Hart,
Speaker 4: Devin Cenzo.
Speaker 2: Do you think there a Hartenstein?
Speaker 4: Do you think it's on Tibbs or is it Tibbs
Speaker 4: fault the fact that they're they're playing to too many
Speaker 4: minutes to where they look sluggish as opposed as opposed
Speaker 4: to do the way they look today, as opposed to
Speaker 4: how they look the first two games. So is it
Speaker 4: on Are they playing too many? Are they playing too
Speaker 4: many minutes?
Speaker 1: But they got to because they're down Julius Randall, they're
Speaker 1: down Robinson, So they're down h what's a chure no
Speaker 1: og anaonobe?
Speaker 2: So they're down three guys his hamstring, right, Yeah, so
Speaker 2: they're down three guys.
Speaker 1: Now, Tims, everybody knows TIBs when they followed it and
Speaker 1: when he was at Chicago, when he's at Minnesota, he's gonna.
Speaker 2: Run you in the ground.
Speaker 1: Now, Oh it's a track meet. Oh he's gonna run
Speaker 1: you in the ground. No, you're gonna you're gonna play minutes.
Speaker 1: You're gonna play heavy minutes, heavy minutes. And the problem
Speaker 1: that you run into and the playoffs is that you
Speaker 1: shorten your bench. And so now you got Jylen Brunson
Speaker 1: playing forty four, forty five, forty six minutes. You got
Speaker 1: Josh Hart playing forty eight eight minutes every night at
Speaker 1: that level of intensity. At some point in time, it's
Speaker 1: gonna catch up with you.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm glad you not. I got something you can
Speaker 4: teach me about basketball Again. On the back end, yes,
Speaker 4: when it comes playoff time, how about you don't shorten
Speaker 4: the bench.
Speaker 2: You can't because you gotta go with the guys that
Speaker 2: you know. You gotta go.
Speaker 1: You're gonna shorten it because you gotta go with the
Speaker 1: guys that you know. You got three or four guys, right,
Speaker 1: and now obviously it could change. You put a guy
Speaker 1: in there mop up time. You're losing by twenty points
Speaker 1: in this three minutes left in the game, and he
Speaker 1: come in there.
Speaker 2: Killed a couple of buckets.
Speaker 1: He catches your eye, like, okay, kind of like if
Speaker 1: you go back and look at the situation with the
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, they were getting blowed out in game three,
Speaker 1: they make the switch, put IgA Dollar in there.
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, we like the way his flow right
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 1: They lose another game, So maybe there's something that one
Speaker 1: of the guys can come in and do that's gonna
Speaker 1: cause him that Like he catches the catches the coaching
Speaker 1: staff eyes and they're like, okay, let's see if we
Speaker 1: can give a getting give him four or five.
Speaker 2: Minutes, Let's see what he can do. Okay.
Speaker 1: But the bench, and this is why I gave Indian
Speaker 1: edge is because of Obi Topping and because of TJ McCollum,
Speaker 1: McConnell and Jackson, those guys off the bench. TJ McConnell,
Speaker 1: you love a guy like that. He's gonna look, he
Speaker 1: can't stop brunting. He's like, I just want I just
Speaker 1: want to just tie him. I just want to make
Speaker 1: you work.
Speaker 2: Make it tu, I want to make you work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna pick him up at ninety four and
Speaker 1: then when I go out, hey, y'all, guys might not
Speaker 1: pick him up ninety four, but pick him up fifty.
Speaker 1: Obie Tomping is coming in giving you buckets. Hey, the
Speaker 1: Knicks drafted it. He's like, y'all gave up on me.
Speaker 1: Let me show you what y'all missing that. And so
Speaker 1: that's what Jackson is. Active, active on the board. He
Speaker 1: giving your putbacks. That was the reason why I took
Speaker 1: the Pacers. I think the Knicks have the better starting five,
Speaker 1: but I think the Pacers have the better bench. And
Speaker 1: so now we got to get into it where you
Speaker 1: have to play your bench because your guys are fatigued
Speaker 1: or some guys are in foul trouble, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what would give the next I mean the Pacers
Speaker 1: the advantage.
Speaker 4: I got this, I got I got the perfect, perfect scenario,
Speaker 4: perfect scenario for the next players. Josh Hard, I know
Speaker 4: you're gonna see this. Jayden Brunson, I know y'all gonna
Speaker 4: see this, Cold Tub. I know you already do that anyway,
Speaker 4: cold Tub before the next game.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 4: You got a few days the rest contrast back and
Speaker 4: forth you for the next game. After doing the cold,
Speaker 4: cold tub, you do your shoot around whatever. I know
Speaker 4: you're not gonna You're not gonna tis not gonna push
Speaker 4: you hard before your next game, right before you play again,
Speaker 4: hit the cold tub, right before the game. Take a
Speaker 4: half a viagra. Take a half a Viagra, and I
Speaker 4: guarantee you it. Get the blood flow going, that explosion
Speaker 4: and you're feeling fresh like it's the beginning, the beginning
Speaker 4: of the season. That's exactly how you gonna feel. I'm
Speaker 4: telling you it's gonna save you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how you do the contrast before what well he
Speaker 1: came over.
Speaker 2: You know our contract. You'll get hot, hot, hot, cold
Speaker 2: and bad.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and you get that first, you get that
Speaker 4: fresh blood flowing falling through the body. Hey, and you
Speaker 4: I'm good, right, okay, I do this.
Speaker 2: Let go, let go, Let's go left gold last go. Hey.
Speaker 4: Hey, the people in the chat that probably don't know
Speaker 4: that have never played sports at that level. Maybe if
Speaker 4: you played in high school, don't understand what it feels
Speaker 4: like when you're getting that cold tub in that hot tub.
Speaker 4: You contrast back and forth and you get you get
Speaker 4: those chilled you freeze everything up and you're getting that
Speaker 4: that that hot tub and everything released. You get back
Speaker 4: in the cold and do it back and forth. I
Speaker 4: used to do it about maybe three times. Yeah, when
Speaker 4: it's time to go out there and run again or
Speaker 4: I sweart for God, I feel like you never ran
Speaker 4: a day in your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel like you never ran a dan so flood,
Speaker 1: so cool, so good, brand new man.
Speaker 4: But again, if if, if, if, if, Josh har Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 4: I know y'all gonna see this. Add the half of
Speaker 4: peel at half a viagra. I'm telling you, the increasing
Speaker 4: blood flow is going to help the lure by the
Speaker 4: extremities to increase explosion, athleticism, lateral movement, all that shit.
Speaker 1: I promise you, I'll lie for you before I lie
Speaker 1: to you. Try it next due excuse me. The Pacers
Speaker 1: do what they need to do. They hold Servant home,
Speaker 1: they take game, they go back to Madison Square Garden
Speaker 1: tied to to normally, they say what seventy seventy three
Speaker 1: percent team that win Game five ends up winning the series.
Speaker 1: Let's see, Knicks gotten blown out all the games. For
Speaker 1: the most part, it really come down to the wire.
Speaker 1: The last two to three minutes of the ball game.
Speaker 1: This game was over at the end of the first quarter.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: I understand that, you know, twenty points in today's game,
Speaker 1: but you didn't see anything, any sorm of life, any
Speaker 1: sort of spark that the Knicks would could display that
Speaker 1: made you think they were going to ever get back
Speaker 1: into this game.
Speaker 2: But give the Pacers credit.
Speaker 1: They tie the series up, head back to New York,
Speaker 1: tie to to the Atlanta Hawks get the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick. The Hawks earned the number one overall pick
Speaker 1: in the lottery this year despite having a just three
Speaker 1: percent chance of doing so. Nine other teams had better
Speaker 1: offs for the number one pick, but Atlanta managed to
Speaker 1: leap frog them off GM Landry Fields. You remember Landry
Speaker 1: Field played with the Knicks, also played with the Toronto Raptors.
Speaker 1: Told reporters moving the number one pick isn't on the
Speaker 1: team radar just yet.
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?
Speaker 4: What do they mean moving the number one pick? So
Speaker 4: is there a chance that Hawks wouldn't want it?
Speaker 1: You mean yeah, because they're looking at it. There's not
Speaker 1: a Lebron, there's not a shot. There's not a Tim Duncan,
Speaker 1: there's not a Victor women Yon, There's not a Kore.
Speaker 4: There's not one, just one franchise changing player in the draft,
Speaker 4: not one, No man.
Speaker 2: Not the thing.
Speaker 1: But see, even ant Man wasn't consensus. He was a
Speaker 1: consensus number. Well, yeah, because you had James Wiseman and
Speaker 1: you had LaMelo Ball. So it wasn't like a shot
Speaker 1: when Shaq came out right Orlando or as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, Orlando disconnected their phone because they ain't even
Speaker 1: want you to waste your time calling them when Lebron
Speaker 1: came out. Only waste your time calling when Tim Duncan,
Speaker 1: when Wimby, I mean, you're not moving a.
Speaker 2: Guy like that, Time out, time out. I'm confused.
Speaker 4: How was Anthony as was knocking census when he was
Speaker 4: coming out? What were what were the scouts looking at?
Speaker 4: And are you saying LaMelo Ball and James wiss was
Speaker 4: better than him during that time?
Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying there was. There were there were
Speaker 1: some thoughts that Lamello Ball could go number one, James
Speaker 1: Wiseman count go with number one.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like when.
Speaker 1: They talked in ninety two draft, everybody new Shack was
Speaker 1: going number one, right, everybody knew. Everybody knew Lebron was
Speaker 1: going number one, even though he was coming out of
Speaker 1: high school, right Lebron was going number one. Everybody knew
Speaker 1: that there are certain guys like Tim Duncan.
Speaker 2: What are we talking about here?
Speaker 4: I mean the fact that coming out of Georgia, Anthony
Speaker 4: wasn't viewed as a consistous overall number one pick is
Speaker 4: beyond me based on how he's turned out in such
Speaker 4: a short amount of high see.
Speaker 1: But but here's the thing. There have been a lot
Speaker 1: of number one picks that didn't turn out like that.
Speaker 4: Name one, well, and okay, name two, and wait, wait
Speaker 4: a minute before you name him. Remember name one that
Speaker 4: didn't turn out how it should turn out that win
Speaker 4: number one, But it wasn't because of injury. That wasn't injured,
Speaker 4: that just turned out all this is messed up.
Speaker 1: Well, Michael, Michael Oliver, Michael Olover, Candy injury, Michael Candy
Speaker 1: Man didn't have no injury.
Speaker 2: He ain't had no bad knees.
Speaker 1: You talked about you, So you talked about Greg Olden
Speaker 1: from Yeah, oh that's Oldin.
Speaker 2: He had he had bad needs.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, Well, I mean they've been they've been
Speaker 1: the guy from a Cleveland what was his name?
Speaker 2: And he been it. He went number one. He's out
Speaker 2: of the league in two years. Wait out of the
Speaker 2: league in two years and you went number one. Yes,
Speaker 2: ain't no, oh Joe.
Speaker 1: The hardest thing is to do is to predict what
Speaker 1: someone is going to be because you don't know how
Speaker 1: hard is they're gonna work. What does it mean to him?
Speaker 1: Because you look at a guy like yo Kids Yokis
Speaker 1: came in the league. You know Yoki's drafting in the
Speaker 1: second round. He was fat, he was out of shape,
Speaker 1: and he said it, he said, I drank. He said,
Speaker 1: I drink in a case to maybe two cases, like
Speaker 1: a case of coke a day. He trimmed up for
Speaker 1: three MVPs in four years. Now he's the best player
Speaker 1: in basketball. It's like the football player, Oh Joe, We've
Speaker 1: seen them guys go number one. How do I know, Ojo?
Speaker 1: How do I know what's in here? I see all
Speaker 1: the physical tools. I see a guy throw the ball
Speaker 1: sixty yards on one knee. I see the guy roll
Speaker 1: and throw the ball back across the field eighty yards.
Speaker 1: I see a guy do all that, But how much
Speaker 1: time is he gonna put into it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: I have a question, do you think at times some
Speaker 4: of the teams that they go to, it does more
Speaker 4: good than bad. It does more bad than good based
Speaker 4: on where they go, as in basketball and football. So
Speaker 4: you look at the situations players. When you get drafted
Speaker 4: early in the NFL, you're going to a horrible team.
Speaker 4: Most of the time. That number one pick is normally
Speaker 4: a quarterback. And when you go to a team and
Speaker 4: your quack one and they're horrible, you get in the
Speaker 4: situation like, uh, what's what's young Bull? What's young Bull?
Speaker 4: From Alabama? Went to went to Carolina? Bryce Bryce Young?
Speaker 2: Oh look, look you come from Alabama.
Speaker 4: There are no weaknesses on defense, on offense, your oh
Speaker 4: your old line is good, you're running back good, your
Speaker 4: receivers are good. And then once you get to the
Speaker 4: next level, you have to do that much more because
Speaker 4: you're going listen, the playing field evens out.
Speaker 2: Once you get to the league. Yeah, it evens out.
Speaker 1: But a lot a lot of times it's not how
Speaker 1: high you go because but oh Joe, it's where you go.
Speaker 1: I want to be number one. I don't give a
Speaker 1: damn seeing me to hell. If I'm gonna be the
Speaker 1: number one pick, they.
Speaker 2: Be go to hell. I won't be number one.
Speaker 1: Nah, I want to be the number one pick, Oyo,
Speaker 1: Because guess what, there's something about that. Everybody says. What
Speaker 1: do you hear them say when the guys come out
Speaker 1: to the draft? What did they say?
Speaker 2: Oyo? Football? Basketball, baseball? What they say? What they want
Speaker 2: to be? Ojoe? Who said that? You know what?
Speaker 1: I want to be the second pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: I want to be the tenth pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: But circumstance, I'm the best player in this draft, and.
Speaker 2: You're the best player. You gotta understand.
Speaker 4: Look at the team you're going to, because what's gonna
Speaker 4: happen now you're the best player in the draft. You
Speaker 4: are the best on the team that you're in when
Speaker 4: you had a bunch of stars around you.
Speaker 2: If you're going to the worst.
Speaker 4: Team, you can get exposed when you other number one pick,
Speaker 4: which happens most of the time because you don't have
Speaker 4: that elite talent around you.
Speaker 2: Right now, you've got to be that boy. Now, if
Speaker 2: you really not that boy, you're gonna get exposed. Height.
Speaker 1: But you gotta think about and plus O Joe, they're
Speaker 1: so young. It's not like when guys like Tim Duncan
Speaker 1: came out. Tim Duncan played all four years. So Tim
Speaker 1: Duncan is twenty two. You get guys coming out now,
Speaker 1: O yo, the eighteen it's nineteen years of age.
Speaker 2: That's a whole.
Speaker 1: There's a big gap between a nineteen year old thinking
Speaker 1: and a twenty two year old thinking.
Speaker 2: It just is yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh, and you know what else comes into play? Skill set? Yes,
Speaker 4: your skill set, what you can do. I mean you
Speaker 4: could you could be, you could be twenty two. And
Speaker 4: you can have a twenty year old that's a hooper.
Speaker 4: You can have an eighteen year od that's hooper. And
Speaker 4: the at yo might be better. Mindset might be better.
Speaker 4: Look at a guy like Kobe.
Speaker 1: Kobe came in at seventeen years of age, but he
Speaker 1: had a twenty five year old mindset. R. Only thing
Speaker 1: he cared about was basketball, right, That's it. That chasing
Speaker 1: and doing that other stuff. Kobe cared about basketball. You
Speaker 1: look at Lebron came in eighteen, turned nineteen in December.
Speaker 1: He had a singular focus. Shaq got an opportunity to
Speaker 1: spend three years in college. That's a whole different ball
Speaker 1: game as a guy spend in one year in college,
Speaker 1: because you do get to develop a pattern of being
Speaker 1: away from home, being on your own one year of college,
Speaker 1: that's really not a whole lot of time. And then
Speaker 1: some guys was coming straight out of high school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think come out of high school, you got
Speaker 4: to be a basketball savant.
Speaker 2: You got to get that boy.
Speaker 4: You got to just dominate the competition to where it
Speaker 4: looks like you almost don't belong.
Speaker 2: You not supposed to be here, right, I mean you
Speaker 2: had guys that like that.
Speaker 1: Do I believe had had Shaq that is his father
Speaker 1: who was in the military, shot could have come out
Speaker 1: because I mean he's seven to one, he's twenty, he's
Speaker 1: damn there, three hundred pounds as an eighteen year old.
Speaker 1: Where they grow where they.
Speaker 2: Grow them at right, right, right, right right.
Speaker 1: I can't coach. I can't coach hype you either, habit.
Speaker 1: I can teach you to get lateral quickness. I can
Speaker 1: work on you the three point shot. I can teach
Speaker 1: you to get I can't teach you to grow what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Put cambanour on your shoes. It's a
Speaker 1: nice bird let, nice dirt. I can't teach you that.
Speaker 1: It's just what they're saying in football, Oh Jo, I
Speaker 1: can't teach you to run fast.
Speaker 2: Son, you can't teach speed. You can't speed.
Speaker 1: I can teach you technique. I can say, Son, Hey,
Speaker 1: sit outside, follow your keys. You know when they they
Speaker 1: on the three by one. See where he's lined up? Hey,
Speaker 1: what you're playing for? I mean, look, think about where
Speaker 1: he's at. He's two yards outside the numbers. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking out what you're thinking. Yeah, he's three yards outside number.
Speaker 1: What you're thinking? I'm thinking?
Speaker 2: Bang? You know what I'm say.
Speaker 1: I can get keys based on his alignment, the formation,
Speaker 1: where we are on the field, and based on the
Speaker 1: and based on the data that we're breaking down through four, eight,
Speaker 1: twelve Highremny games. So I can fact all the it. Now,
Speaker 1: how well can I process that through the course of
Speaker 1: the game, because I gotta do a lot of teams,
Speaker 1: A lot of guys can do it in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: But then the second quarter of your mind starts to drift. Okay,
Speaker 1: you've giving up a play and now you're focused on
Speaker 1: and now you're not reading your kids. But this, look
Speaker 1: at this. In the twenty eighteen draft, DeAndre Ayton went
Speaker 1: number one overall. Marvin Bagley went number two overall. Guess
Speaker 1: who the third pick was o Yo Luca.
Speaker 2: So who you think should have been number one in
Speaker 2: that draft onho.
Speaker 4: Based on what they've done so far? Yeah, Luca and
Speaker 4: now Marvin Badley. He hasn't been that bad, has he.
Speaker 4: He hasn't been that bad.
Speaker 1: He's been all he's been. He's been in Sacramento. I
Speaker 1: think he went in Sacramento. He's in Detroit right now.
Speaker 2: Huh uh. The eleventh pick. Guess who The eleventh pick in that.
Speaker 1: Draft was eleven yep, the eleventh pick of the draft
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Guess who he was?
Speaker 1: On?
Speaker 2: Joe? Who that Shaye? Gilgus Alexander? What? What? What?
Speaker 4: What are the scouts looking at in college?
Speaker 2: See? Oh Joe? If it was that easy, nobody would miss.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: Kid went in the second round like in the forties.
Speaker 2: So you just you never know.
Speaker 4: So I'm so basketball and football must be completely different
Speaker 4: then when it comes to drafting, because what you put
Speaker 4: up in college most of the time, if I'm to me,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking most of the time. When you saw Jamar
Speaker 4: Chase in college, you knew what you was getting when
Speaker 4: you drafted him. When you saw Justin Jefferson in college,
Speaker 4: you knew what you was getting when you drafted him
Speaker 4: that early.
Speaker 2: You knew what she was getting. Well, tell me why
Speaker 2: Tom Brady went in the sixth round one ninety two.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, you know what, Now that's a good one.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I ain't got I ain't dragging
Speaker 2: it for that. I ain't even got that. John Ramda
Speaker 2: went undrafted, Minnesota biking. John Dall went undrafted. Well that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Jylen Brunson was picked thirty three in twenty.
Speaker 1: Eighteen Villanova Villanova, Jaylen, Yeah, that's the second round.
Speaker 2: They only got two rounds, right, they only got two rounds.
Speaker 1: They only got they got thirty They got thirtyeen, so
Speaker 1: you get the thirty is the cutoff?
Speaker 2: You think that was because of this hype? Hell, Allen
Speaker 2: Iverson how tall? You thought?
Speaker 4: Hey, I wold Allen Avas. That's a different animal. Now
Speaker 4: come on, now that's a different animal.
Speaker 1: But see that, that's what you did that you think
Speaker 1: about this train scouts, You see what you did like
Speaker 1: the scout.
Speaker 2: You're bastill on this sight.
Speaker 1: You've you forget what you saw at Billanova when he
Speaker 1: led them to a national championship.
Speaker 4: See, oh, I'm only wait, I'm only let me tell
Speaker 4: you why I'm saying that though uh not the was
Speaker 4: it the college championship this year? That somebody uh what?
Speaker 4: Wh who won the college championship this year? You can't
Speaker 4: who is the guard that's really short? And I said,
Speaker 4: oh man, he's bawling. He definitely going to the NBA.
Speaker 4: And everybody on Twitter got on my head. Now he
Speaker 4: might he might make it to the G League.
Speaker 2: He's too short, Castle Castle.
Speaker 4: I think that that that might be him, if I'm
Speaker 4: not mistaken. Obviously, I can't go like.
Speaker 1: You like the big tall guy, you like the seven
Speaker 1: three guys, you like Zach Edy so but they ain't
Speaker 1: got no place for him to play in the NBA.
Speaker 4: I thought, I listen, and maybe it's too late. Now
Speaker 4: what hell if Kaki do it? Can they work on
Speaker 4: his mid range? Can they work on him playing at
Speaker 4: the top top of the key?
Speaker 2: Nah? Nah?
Speaker 1: No? I mean he at worst he should be able
Speaker 1: to be get some hustle. He could be a hard
Speaker 1: and stun hard and styned the carved out a night lit.
Speaker 1: He can be. He can be a zoo box. You
Speaker 1: mean to tell me he can't be zoo bombs from
Speaker 1: the Clippers, right, now, I mean everybody, Look, everybody gotta
Speaker 1: be shacked. Everybody at gotta be Tim Duncan. Everybody ain't
Speaker 1: gotta be Kareem Damn. You got to have the footwork
Speaker 1: for that. You got that footwork has been in them
Speaker 1: for life. It's already been there, so that the foundation
Speaker 1: to work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then you you add the tools and you had
Speaker 4: the footwork already, then you become Tim Duncan. Missed the fundamentals.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, oh Jo, people just automatically assume
Speaker 1: if they see somebody short, but he should be a
Speaker 1: if you see somebody tall, why he can't be this?
Speaker 2: Hey, dag he talling it bro It don't work like that, DNA.
Speaker 2: Everybody is six.
Speaker 1: So now every time somebody six six, oh, that's Michael, George,
Speaker 1: Joe God, Michael Jordan was six six, Toby was six six,
Speaker 1: and so everybody that's six sy they remind you, Kobe,
Speaker 1: remind you know, they don't.
Speaker 2: Do you understand that.
Speaker 1: They're like there's levels, no matter what, there are levels,
Speaker 1: even if you go in the most exclusive store, there's
Speaker 1: levels to this. They got stuff that's out that you
Speaker 1: can touch, and then they gotta that same store they
Speaker 1: got issued behind the glass. Okay, so there's levels to
Speaker 1: whatever you do. They got levels to.
Speaker 4: It, and every everybody has a ceiling. You can work
Speaker 4: as hard as you want on everything you want, but
Speaker 4: you still have a physical ceiling on what you are
Speaker 4: kid is doing based on your DNA, You're.
Speaker 2: Only gonna be able to do so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people like, well if he could do this,
Speaker 1: I say, man, so y'all wanted God to make Shock
Speaker 1: have footwork like Elija. Want can shoot the ball, can
Speaker 1: shoot the ball like dirt and the wisky and then
Speaker 1: handle the ball.
Speaker 2: What damn high fair would that be? He made him
Speaker 2: seven one three.
Speaker 1: Five less than jimper sent body fat man if Lebron,
Speaker 1: I said, Bro, do you understand what Lebron is. He's
Speaker 1: six foot nine, two hundred and sixty five pounds. He
Speaker 1: got Karmeloan's body. He can handle the ball like magic,
Speaker 1: and he can post you up like a like a
Speaker 1: true five. But y'all wanted to shoot the ball like
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. God dang, just imagine if Steph Curry was
Speaker 1: six Imagine if Steph Curry was six s eight?
Speaker 2: What damn how fair would that be? You gonna let
Speaker 2: the man be six sy and be able to shoot
Speaker 2: the ball like like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: They won't their favorite player O Joe to have everything,
Speaker 2: every attribute like two k.
Speaker 1: I mean, he gotta, God gotta make him have some
Speaker 1: He gotta be able to have some weakness, even the
Speaker 1: fastest cars. So what if a car could go two
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour? Man, I wanted to get fifty
Speaker 1: miles to the gallop?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 1: D how you how you walk up to go that
Speaker 1: fan get fifty miles to the gallo?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: But you know it's think about what you did all
Speaker 4: the attributes you just said, you know who got everything?
Speaker 2: Win by Yama?
Speaker 4: Well maybe except maybe not the not maybe not the
Speaker 4: the strength.
Speaker 2: What if what if what if he had shack size?
Speaker 4: Okay, that wouldn't be fair, don't you That wouldn't be fair.
Speaker 4: That would hey hold on to be able to put
Speaker 4: the ball on the floor like that, to be able
Speaker 4: to like that three go on the post? Yeah, oh head,
Speaker 4: that wouldn't be fair. And then you add you add
Speaker 4: wait and put wait on him like shout.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. How's that fair? Nah? No, So
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't give a guy everything Damn, that's
Speaker 2: like fair.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: What if Tom Brady had had Lamar Jackson quickness?
Speaker 4: Hold on, what if tom Brady was like Michael vick.
Speaker 2: Man mad them joking with hunted to know that with
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl lever. Come on, man, never lose.
Speaker 1: You gotta have you got I mean something, you gotta
Speaker 1: have some There gotta be some limitations on what you
Speaker 1: can do. Man, Man, what if Michael Jordan can shoot
Speaker 1: the three ball like Steph Really, dude, really so hit
Speaker 1: the game. He could jump out the gym, he got
Speaker 1: a mid range, he could put the ball in the
Speaker 1: clock on the floor, he can put you in. He
Speaker 1: made eighty plus percent of his bro But now you
Speaker 1: want to shoot plus forty percent from the three point line.
Speaker 2: On volume threes? Right? Really?
Speaker 1: I said, man, y'all want somebody to have every every
Speaker 1: single thing. No no deficiencies. Everybody got a weakness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Who.
Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons have finished the worst record in the NBA
Speaker 1: for the last two years, but the draft lottery has
Speaker 1: been incredibly cruel to them. For the second consecutive year,
Speaker 1: the Pistons have landed the number five overall pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. They had a fourteen percent chance of securing
Speaker 1: the number one pick both years and more than fifty
Speaker 1: percent chance of having a top three pick, but it
Speaker 1: did not happen either time. Detroit is the only team
Speaker 1: to ever have the best odds to win the lottery
Speaker 1: then land at number five, and it's happened to him
Speaker 1: two straight years. So, God, what you get from do it?
Speaker 1: Losing all these damn games on purpose?
Speaker 2: Love? What you get? Are they losing them on purpose? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, So if you're losing them on purpose in hopes
Speaker 4: of getting the picks you need, at what point will
Speaker 4: your team ever be in contention to do anything.
Speaker 1: Well, it ain't gonna be in contingent because you're you're
Speaker 1: hoping because it's like san Antonio. See san Antonio had
Speaker 1: to draft well, because you're not gonna get somebody to
Speaker 1: come to san Antonio if you go back and since
Speaker 1: free agency.
Speaker 2: The only guy that's really come with LaMarcus Aldridge. Right.
Speaker 1: But they drafted, They drafted Tim Duncan, they drafted Tony Parker,
Speaker 1: they drafted Monuda Jano, they drafted Kawhi Leonard, they drafted
Speaker 1: you know, so you draft really really well. They had
Speaker 1: They drafted David Robinson. They drafted within Beyama because the
Speaker 1: likelihood of you getting somebody to come there. Look at
Speaker 1: the Lakers. See the Lakers gonna get people to come.
Speaker 1: They got willed to come, got shocked to come, They
Speaker 1: got Lebron to come, They got Kareem to come. Right
Speaker 1: some places, you're going to a track.
Speaker 4: Right the stars now, perfect, perfect question lead up for
Speaker 4: my question. A place that's going to attract stars. Who
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to play in Atlanta? So my question, you
Speaker 4: had do the Hawk go full rebuild and trade Trey
Speaker 4: Young and talk about john Ty Murray for a gang
Speaker 4: of picks? Or keep one? Who would be the one
Speaker 4: you keep?
Speaker 2: Did Jontey?
Speaker 4: Or trade keep one and try to be competitive immediately
Speaker 4: by getting a gang of picks.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Oh Joe, you and I know. Look,
Speaker 1: I love Atlanta. I wouldn't want to play in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Too much distraction, distractions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and plus they're thirty NBA teams right, Yeah, all
Speaker 1: of my created equal.
Speaker 4: Every NBA, every NBA city had distractions.
Speaker 1: They ain't created like all cities ain't created like Alama.
Speaker 2: You know that I know that.
Speaker 4: It's not an NBA player that's focused on his game
Speaker 4: in the NBA with the Kobe type mindset, you think,
Speaker 4: how much playing is going on the team.
Speaker 1: How many thinks on the football team. How many people
Speaker 1: you think focused on a fifty three man roster, not
Speaker 1: counting the practice squad, how many of them are focus?
Speaker 4: I mean the person who has the most fun quarterback,
Speaker 4: probably quarterback, the quarterback, quarterback.
Speaker 1: On a fifty three man roster, how many of them
Speaker 1: as focused as they need to be?
Speaker 2: That's that's hard. Ain't nothing going.
Speaker 1: On the Cincinnati, Hey, the skyline, like that Cincinnati popping boy,
Speaker 1: the mid skyline chill and I know you can down
Speaker 1: to what you call him to the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 2: I know that. Wait a minute, Cincinnati, right down the street.
Speaker 2: To tell you something.
Speaker 4: In Cincinnati, when I was playing, we had a place
Speaker 4: called Annie's and He's and he's just like Magic City.
Speaker 2: That like Magic City.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody putting, So we had ain't no ain't nobody putting,
Speaker 1: no no song, nobody when they get to the hotel,
Speaker 1: drop their bags off and go straight to and they
Speaker 1: go into Magic City.
Speaker 2: Stop it. Hey, we had roller skating.
Speaker 4: I used to go to I used to go to
Speaker 4: the session after the game, seven to eleven rollerskates.
Speaker 1: You go to the roller skate down road, you.
Speaker 2: Have same same thing. I mean, I mean, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: This man tried to tell me Cincinnati is the equivalent
Speaker 2: of Atlanta. It is.
Speaker 4: We got Cincinnati got women too, huh, we got we
Speaker 4: got in the banks. When the last time you've been
Speaker 4: in Cincinnati? Have you have you been on the river?
Speaker 4: Have you been on the banks and seen the banks? Now,
Speaker 4: Cincinnati not the same Cincinnati that that you remember with.
Speaker 1: Think about what you said, Cinnati. Cincinnati right away.
Speaker 4: Wait, Cincinnati today, right now is better Thanlanta.
Speaker 2: What you're talking about. We have more to offer.
Speaker 4: Ask INTERFL players right now, we don't want to play.
Speaker 4: Would they rather play in Atlanta or they rather play
Speaker 4: in Cincinnati?
Speaker 1: They would rather play with Joe Burrow? Would you rather
Speaker 1: live in Atlanta or live in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: No, they're going to say they rather live in Cincinnati
Speaker 4: and play with Joe Burrow because of what we have
Speaker 4: to Stop.
Speaker 2: It, man, stop it. Let's be damn well, let's bet.
Speaker 2: Let's bet what you want to be.
Speaker 1: Let me see y'all this man say, this man say
Speaker 1: women in Cincinnati are the equivalent of Atlanta.
Speaker 2: You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Better. Have you
Speaker 2: been to Cincinnati? What are you talking about? What do
Speaker 2: you talk about Atlanta's wait be drunk on the show. No,
Speaker 2: you ain't drunk. Listen. I love Atlanta, I will be.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 4: I've only been Atlanta maybe five or six times in
Speaker 4: my lifetime. I love Atlanta. It's considered black Hollywood. Beautiful people,
Speaker 4: beautiful people.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: We have everything every ethnicity. You're looking for what we got?
Speaker 4: Uh huh what you think Atlanta got? Atlanta's called black
Speaker 4: Hollywood for a reason because we dominated in all areas
Speaker 4: and all facets.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 1: The only people that look here. The only people that's
Speaker 1: moving to Cincinnati are athletes. They played for the Reds,
Speaker 1: they played for the Bengals. You need to stop this,
Speaker 1: O Joe.
Speaker 2: You don't understand. You know, I do understand.
Speaker 4: You think about the eighties, in the nineties, Cinnaty.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about Cincinnati. Think about it. That is not
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 4: We have evolved. We have evolved Cincinnati. We have evolved.
Speaker 4: Cincincinnati a very safe place to live. The people are great,
Speaker 4: the organization is great.
Speaker 1: Right now, we have a poll up better women Atlanta
Speaker 1: crushing eighty four percent Cincinnati sixteen percent.
Speaker 4: That's because that's because the eighty four percent ain't never
Speaker 4: been to Cincinnati, they've never lived there, and that sixteen.
Speaker 1: Percent ain't never been to Atlanta. Chat just out of
Speaker 1: here arguing.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just
Speaker 4: stating facts. Because I lived in Cincinnati for eleven years.
Speaker 4: I've been to Atlanta six times. In Atlanta is beautiful,
Speaker 4: The people are awesome, Everybody is on their business, everybody's
Speaker 4: is doing something great in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Awesome place to be. But I had the.
Speaker 1: Offer we we got look accept this collapse because we're
Speaker 1: gonna put this up and we're gonna stand on business.
Speaker 2: And I want you to read the comments when they
Speaker 2: come into your page.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, Well I just said I didn't say anything
Speaker 4: bad about Atlanta. I just said I would say people
Speaker 4: would prefer to live in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: That's not bad.
Speaker 4: I just said I'm not saying nothing bad people Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Man, Look at if you like Skyline Chili, take off
Speaker 1: Skyline Chili.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of jeff Ruby Steakhouse? Huh?
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Huh? The precinct. Come on now, stay with me.
Speaker 1: Now, you know y'all know for y'all known for a
Speaker 1: TV show w k r P and Cincinnati. What y'all okay,
Speaker 1: you'll have Anderson on there?
Speaker 2: Stop it? Hold on? Well what is atl known for? You?
Speaker 2: Better stop? How about? How about this the birthplace of
Speaker 2: the civil rights movement? Do I say anything else? Can
Speaker 2: I ask you a question? Yes? With that civil rights
Speaker 2: moving right?
Speaker 1: Yes, stay with me now, doctor Martin Luther King, Doctor
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King.
Speaker 2: How much has changed since then?
Speaker 1: Oh? You think you think, you think you're thinking, you're
Speaker 1: think it's bad. Now go back to the civil rights
Speaker 1: before before this? Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: If you're paying attention now I'm not, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 4: not willing to get into politics. But if you're paying attention,
Speaker 4: you know history piece itself, don't it?
Speaker 2: You know that, right?
Speaker 1: But that's what you gotta do. You've got to educate
Speaker 1: and enlighten people so we don't let it repeat itself.
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: Do you know the history of Cincinnati? Do you know
Speaker 1: the sister of Cincinnati and the police officer in the
Speaker 1: black sta Yes? Oh yeah, yeah, I know, well, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just saying. I'm just saying, listen,
Speaker 1: I like I like fighting a good fight. Stay with
Speaker 1: me real quick. Listen to what I say real quick.
Speaker 1: I normally don't like to go into politics.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the civil rights movement history lays repeats itself.
Speaker 4: Now I love the good fight, and I love to
Speaker 4: be a part of the good fight. Yes, farll of
Speaker 4: me is the people you need to swing at and
Speaker 4: the people need to touch are untouchable.
Speaker 2: You get where I'm going with this. No, we just look,
Speaker 2: we understand we got to do. We're gonna do a
Speaker 2: better job.
Speaker 1: Because my job is as a person that has a
Speaker 1: little haves a little power, a little thing is to
Speaker 1: employ people that look like me, and then hopefully they
Speaker 1: become big enough they leave me and have their own
Speaker 1: company and hire more people that look like.
Speaker 4: Us, and to continue to keep that change.
Speaker 2: That's yes, yes each other, Yes, yes yeah.
Speaker 1: And I try to collab like Gil because I offered
Speaker 1: the pay Gill Gil said, Nah, I just want to
Speaker 1: be because I see what you're doing and I want
Speaker 1: you to show me how you're doing it right. A
Speaker 1: lot of times I've tried to partner with people they're like, nah, nah,
Speaker 1: we good, Okay, you could.
Speaker 2: I ain't been.
Speaker 1: I'm not fit to beg somebody to try to give
Speaker 1: them information, Ojo when they're unwilling to accept it. You know,
Speaker 1: he think he thinks he Joe Rogan, Oh, he think
Speaker 1: it right to argue with you. You said, no, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 4: You know what I would love to do speaking of
Speaker 4: collabing and speaking of I wish I was able to
Speaker 4: show my range, Like I know, people see people see
Speaker 4: me in this's you know, the funny guy, fun guy
Speaker 4: having fun. But there's a serious side of me as well,
Speaker 4: one that I don't show very often. I would love
Speaker 4: to talk politics. I would love to talk racing, religion
Speaker 4: and all this stuff. But that's really never been my stick.
Speaker 4: That's never been my next you know. I wish I
Speaker 4: could talk politics like Roland Martin. I wish I could
Speaker 4: talk politics like a Don Lemon or Mark Lamont and
Speaker 4: Mark Lamont Hill. I would love to be able to
Speaker 4: say the show that range, be on a platform and
Speaker 4: actually sit there and break things down.
Speaker 2: But I can.
Speaker 4: I mean I can, but I don't want to because
Speaker 4: I understand that's a battle where there's no win because
Speaker 4: it's always back and forth. It's always it's always tugging, pull,
Speaker 4: back and forth, back and forth, and there's never there's never,
Speaker 4: never a solution because we're still fighting the same fight.
Speaker 4: EON's years later.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the biggest thing is OJOE is that
Speaker 1: right now people are dug in on their sides. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like it's kind of like what we have
Speaker 1: right now is the Jordan Lebron debate. You either believe
Speaker 1: it's Jordan or you believe it's.
Speaker 2: Lebron based on preference. Right now, this is where we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got two party system, and you belie even
Speaker 1: that no matter what happens, no matter what he does boom,
Speaker 1: no matter what the other side, no matter what he does,
Speaker 1: no matter what.
Speaker 2: He says, you believe in that. So that's it's hard.
Speaker 1: And when you get a perk, when you get people
Speaker 1: that's so dug in on their belief, it ain't no
Speaker 1: moving them off.
Speaker 2: You can't change it. It's impossible. So what you try
Speaker 2: to do is get the people that's undecided.
Speaker 1: You try to sway them because they're a certain group
Speaker 1: of people. When that man said he could shoot somebody
Speaker 1: on fifth Avenue, but nothing happened.
Speaker 2: He ain't lie. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And there are certain people that vote Democrat and they're
Speaker 1: gonna vote Democrat and they're not gonna lie. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so that's that's where we are.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, before you before we go on to
Speaker 4: the next thing, always always think about it like this, right,
Speaker 4: you have Democrats, you have Republicans, right, yes, and you
Speaker 4: had the government the government to me, I believe at
Speaker 4: times it gives us the illusion that they're for the people.
Speaker 4: To me, at times it gives us as the people,
Speaker 4: an illusion that they're for us. But if you really
Speaker 4: dig into a deep and you realize there's a higher
Speaker 4: power that controls everything, that pulls the strings, there are
Speaker 4: a certain number of families I'm not gonna get I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna get too deep into it that no matter
Speaker 4: what happens, they only gonna allow so much freedom for.
Speaker 2: Us, only so much.
Speaker 4: And every time they give you a little bit, and
Speaker 4: what we do or we get hyped, we get happy
Speaker 4: because they move the inch, they move the bar just
Speaker 4: a little bit, just a little bit, and just a
Speaker 4: little bit, and what's going to happen at one point?
Speaker 4: And we when you'll say I'm not sure when it
Speaker 4: will happen. History will start to repeat itself. Certain laws
Speaker 4: that will put in place will be taken away little
Speaker 4: by little. Matter of fact, if you don't pay attention,
Speaker 4: If if you don't pay attention, you won't even notice
Speaker 4: is happening. But they're gonna pull it right right from
Speaker 4: the front of the rug.
Speaker 2: But that's what's going on.
Speaker 4: Oh so you know, so you know, you know, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: I just want to get I don't want to I
Speaker 4: don't want to make this a political debate.
Speaker 2: But okay, what I mean, everybody saw that. You see
Speaker 2: what happened with Roe v. Wade.
Speaker 1: You see how they you see how they try to
Speaker 1: do it, do away with affirmative action.
Speaker 2: See all the things that they're trying to implement. Oh,
Speaker 2: here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The government can't be for the people if there are
Speaker 1: people that have power that can swear.
Speaker 2: It's really that simple. I wish it was. I wish it.
Speaker 2: I wish it wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: Come on, you know what, Hey, uh, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a nightcap after the first bitual debate.
Speaker 2: We will have the debate Camp