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<v Speaker 2>Oyo.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, so listen for one before I even start, all

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<v Speaker 4>the mothers that are in the chat that are watching,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to tell you happy Mother's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope this day was relaxing and fulfilling. Obviously, one

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<v Speaker 4>day for you guys doesn't do enough justice for the

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<v Speaker 4>job that you have to do twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, I hope it was enjoyable. So for one

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<v Speaker 4>would it being Mother's Day. I went to go see

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<v Speaker 4>my mom. I went to see Hurricane Paul at the

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<v Speaker 4>cemetery in Opa Laka.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see my grandma.

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<v Speaker 4>I went out there and played a little gospel music.

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<v Speaker 4>I shared a few tiers. I shared a few tiers.

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<v Speaker 4>So right right after that, I left and I came

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<v Speaker 4>out and I look. I looked at the park. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen people playing basketball. So I put it on

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<v Speaker 4>the side of the on the side of the grass,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just the Washington Boy hoop for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>And I look and I was like, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody said something to me, why come out in hoop.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, man, I ain't got no shoes. So

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<v Speaker 4>I went to the back of the trunk. I had

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<v Speaker 4>my little tennis shoes, not not like really like real

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<v Speaker 4>tennis shoes, you know, not not for hooping. Went out there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, talk a little trash, you know, get warmed up,

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<v Speaker 4>get jaw moving, and so I don't think the boy, no,

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<v Speaker 4>like I really do this, Like I can really come

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<v Speaker 4>off the bench for any NBA team right now and

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<v Speaker 4>be six Man of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>So bomb check it. We go out there.

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<v Speaker 4>The first game, Pepper, Paul, everybody in the chat for

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<v Speaker 4>mind me. I know all my boys watching man smoke

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<v Speaker 4>Matt Piccolo. You ain't Matt yet. You got to earn

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<v Speaker 4>that name. I played right first game up, whooped them

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<v Speaker 4>boys off the court. Then I was talking to a

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<v Speaker 4>young fella right he was. He was talking trash to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh he was talking trash to me, talk about what

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<v Speaker 4>you gonna do and he and he liked that, and

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<v Speaker 4>he liked this and whatever whatnot. So I told him, okay, back,

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<v Speaker 4>let's run it. So second game, he he didn't hit

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<v Speaker 4>a he didn't hit a shot, he didn't hit a

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<v Speaker 4>two or he yapping now then boom he got another point.

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<v Speaker 4>They running plays like we're in the NBA. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>if you really like that call the ISO, tell everybody

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<v Speaker 4>move out the way and put the ball on the

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<v Speaker 4>ground and get it off the bustle. He didne had it,

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<v Speaker 4>even had his little full points, so they won the game.

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<v Speaker 4>But he got carried.

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<v Speaker 2>The person that was doing all the talking.

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<v Speaker 4>He got carried. So he was out there. He had

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<v Speaker 4>about he had full points, so he was like a PJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Tucker or Patrick Beverley like that. I no, no disrespect

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm learning the game. So I understand. He like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not calling them role players, but he was a

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<v Speaker 4>role player today and he got carried.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt yeh huh. That's what they are, the role players.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, okay, But he can't be talking to me

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<v Speaker 4>like that when I'm like, I'm like Anthony Edwards when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on the court, I'm like Anthony Edwards with the

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<v Speaker 4>explosion of a prime d Rose. That's what they They

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<v Speaker 4>ain't really get that today. Because I wanted I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to facilitate. I wanted to be like John Stockton to day.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to be like even Ash. No, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 4>that God lie for you before I lie to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was out there cutting up.

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<v Speaker 4>So I know all my boys watching. I'm gona see

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<v Speaker 4>y'all next Saturday, eight o'clock in the morning. Anybody in

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<v Speaker 4>the chat, anybody in the chat that lives in Miami

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<v Speaker 4>Pepper Park Saturday and Sunday at eight am, come out

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<v Speaker 4>there and I'm gonna show you why I should be

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<v Speaker 4>in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to all my boys man at the city,

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<v Speaker 4>love Haiti, at the beans, at the subs where y'all from.

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<v Speaker 2>I love y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate y'all for letting me hoop it y'all today.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna see y'all every week. A Matt Well, yeah

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<v Speaker 4>it is mine boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if y'all notice through all that story

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<v Speaker 2>and two on the court today, No, no, I I

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<v Speaker 2>would want to win. No no, no, you lost that way

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<v Speaker 2>you lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I was one and one, all right. So the Nuggets

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<v Speaker 1>fight their way back, and now they've clawed home court back.

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<v Speaker 1>They lose the first two games at home, go on

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<v Speaker 1>the road and beat the Timberwolves two games on the

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<v Speaker 1>road at eight to Old Spur at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the first half was the difference in the ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nuggets win one fifteen seven to even the series

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<v Speaker 1>at two.

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<v Speaker 2>As they head back to for Game five and Ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Arena on Tuesday, Nicola Jokic showed everybody why he's the MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let it, don't get twisted, but O Joe, if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch this game, you know, if you go back

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<v Speaker 1>and you follow the Nuggets since they kind of been

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<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets, Yes, Sir, Aaron Gordon is gonna have one

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<v Speaker 1>game in every series that he's gonna do something spectacular.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna We saw it. We saw it the last series

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<v Speaker 2>against the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>He twenty nine and fourteen Tonight he was twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>on level of twelve, played forty one minutes, seven rebound,

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<v Speaker 1>six assists. To excuse me, twenty seven points, seven rebound,

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<v Speaker 1>six assists, either eleven twelve from the floor, he's two

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<v Speaker 1>or two from the three point line. Yoke fifteen or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. He got a little foul trou up for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, seven and seven, and Jamal Murray had a

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<v Speaker 1>stretch there where he couldn't couldn't miss.

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<v Speaker 2>He was eight of seventeen, three or seven from the three.

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<v Speaker 2>He had nineteen points.

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday Justice Holiday came up the bench three or six

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<v Speaker 1>from the four to three or five from the three,

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<v Speaker 1>and Christan Brown came in. He was three or four

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<v Speaker 1>from the floor, one of one from the three fourth

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<v Speaker 1>line level points. And that's the difference. Ant man with

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<v Speaker 1>a man. He is home for Game three.

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<v Speaker 2>He carrying everybody on.

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<v Speaker 4>But Cat, somebody, somebody got that tribute.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't knowing somebody it is Cat. Cat is the All Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Cat Is was the Rookie of the year. Cat is

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<v Speaker 1>the is the guy. He needs to carry his weight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can't look at what he had a double

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<v Speaker 1>dumb Come on, man, Cat was five of eighteen, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen point twelve rebounds.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do that now with four quarters.

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<v Speaker 4>Now with four quarters, if you, if you, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have a chance, listen, I've been watching the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm feeling good now. I'm finna talk. I'm i'

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<v Speaker 2>feeling really good. I'm feeling really good now. So if you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna have a chance of playing, you need your superstar

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<v Speaker 4>to show up. Cat is a superstar. You can't have

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<v Speaker 4>off nights. You explained it to me the best sometime

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<v Speaker 4>with the role players, when they get the chance to

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<v Speaker 4>play and they have opportunity to be in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to make those shots. Yes, in the first

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<v Speaker 4>two games, hell the Wolves, the Wolves is up two. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>this was up to Oh how did Cat play in

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<v Speaker 4>those games? Say well, you're sufficient from the field. So

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<v Speaker 4>if they're gonna have a chance, Cat, we need your baby,

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<v Speaker 4>We need we need you to step up.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to. I have a question. I have one question.

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<v Speaker 4>As big as Cat is, please hear me. Why is

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<v Speaker 4>he not Why is he not in the block? Why

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<v Speaker 4>he not down in the post? Why is he at

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<v Speaker 4>the three point line? He should not be coming out

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<v Speaker 4>retrieving the ball to three point line calling for I soles,

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<v Speaker 4>call of a pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the way the game has expanded. We see

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<v Speaker 1>these guys seven foot tall. Look at look at chat Holmbren,

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<v Speaker 1>He's seven two seven three. Look at Wimby, look at

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<v Speaker 1>Prizingers Joel mb shoots a lot of three. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>the game is added O Joe, because the value is

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<v Speaker 1>in the three point shot.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand the values. I understand the values in the

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<v Speaker 4>three point shot. But you Cat, Cat, I need you

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<v Speaker 4>to be a swift, a Swiss army knife. We know

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<v Speaker 4>you can shoot the three. We know you got a

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<v Speaker 4>mid range game, why not start down in the block?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not I start down in the post and see

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<v Speaker 4>you can get Joker and foul trouble, tire him out

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit early in the game. You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>gotta make them work and then change your game up,

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<v Speaker 4>find different ways, find different ways to facilitate get the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>and then work your game that way, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>just trying to play for mid range. Out start for

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<v Speaker 4>the start, start for the block. First man man Nigga

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<v Speaker 4>asked for that, ask for that pen, come on now.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's been a lot of issues that people

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<v Speaker 1>have taken with Cat because he's so skilled and we

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<v Speaker 1>know you can shoot the ball from there, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>seven foot tall and you can post, and the most

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<v Speaker 1>nights you're gonna have because of Rudi's on the court,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have an advantage on the block. If you

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<v Speaker 1>you're so choosing not granted, not granted with Rudy in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. See, look, I understand they're playing well, but

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't make no sense to me because Rudy can't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything but play on the block. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>put Cat on the block, where you're gonna put Rudy. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't going Rudy.

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<v Speaker 4>Rotate, rotate that ship, rot who running the point? You

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<v Speaker 4>moved come down Cat in the block, rotated around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 4>Run specific plays for Cat early in the game where

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<v Speaker 4>he's down in the block. Were not shooting mid range

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<v Speaker 4>or out three, call of the picks.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're doing, I'm doubling off Rudy. Go bear. Rudy

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do anything but do a put a put back, dunk,

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<v Speaker 1>a tipion so I don't have to worry about him

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<v Speaker 1>outside of five feet. So that's what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's That's been some of the that's been some

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<v Speaker 1>of the qualms with with Cat is that he spends

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<v Speaker 1>so much time outside on the perimeter, the hovering around

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<v Speaker 1>the three point line.

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<v Speaker 2>When he's skilled, he can pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he can play with his back to the back,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not what he chooses to do because guys

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<v Speaker 1>that play with their back to the basket, they look

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<v Speaker 1>at that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Old school, you know, antiquated.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, ain't nobody playing like Patrick, You ain't nobody

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<v Speaker 1>playing like Elijah Wanted, David Robinson and Tim Duncan.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys are gone.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about It's about having a package. It's about having

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<v Speaker 4>a package. The more package you have, the better you are.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the point of having a Swiss army knife, having

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<v Speaker 4>multiple things you can cut with. So if you know

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<v Speaker 4>you got a package, and you can go down in

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<v Speaker 4>the post in the block, and you can play like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and you got to mid range. So that affects the

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<v Speaker 4>team you play defensively. They got to play you multiple ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, you got to use all that shit, but

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<v Speaker 1>you you you, you preach it to the choir though,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to get that to the congregation.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh don't care. I mean, hey, listen, after this, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>way for Anti shower. I'm away away for Anti. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gona waiting the cool down. I'm gonna call him. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna talk to him, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, tell him get his May you sell one? You

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<v Speaker 2>about what to eighty?

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<v Speaker 1>Cat was five of eighteen. He had thirteen points and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve rebounds.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs They need to be able to match. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>Yoke and Cat play to a standstill, right, Okay? Who

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<v Speaker 1>did something with Aaron Gordon? What we're gonna do about

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<v Speaker 1>those twenty some points? Who off sets that. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>cat Okay, you supposed to offset that. Right now, we

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<v Speaker 1>can play two on two now with Conley? Who else

0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:43.760
<v Speaker 1>who starts Conley, Jane Daniels, McDaniel, excuse me, and Rudy Gobert.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we could offset the other three. Man, it's hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I stuck with the Nuggets. I said, no, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets had to be I thought the Nuggets would win,

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<v Speaker 1>mister harp. They're not going down. You're not sweeping the

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood of you sweeping champs, champions, and they're not and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not injured. They got too much pride to let

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<v Speaker 1>that happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Sweet, not only pride. Do you think experience plays a factor? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, experience plays a factor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they've been there, done that. Yeah, absolutely, Man, they

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<v Speaker 1>never get bothered. Look how many times they were down

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<v Speaker 1>to the Lakers down twelve, down sixteen, down twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>And when matter and when you blink, they back in

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<v Speaker 4>the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that the.

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<v Speaker 1>Timber Wolves right there in the game, and then eight

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<v Speaker 1>quick points boom, boom boom, and now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it's back to a seventeen sixteen, seventeen point ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in the blink, of a NYE. But you knew

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<v Speaker 1>Yo wasn't going to continue to be this inefficient. You

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<v Speaker 1>knew eventually he's gonna get that touch, You're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>his range back. And the question was when was Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Goring gonna have that game? Well he had it tonight

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<v Speaker 1>and it couldn't come at a better time. So now

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<v Speaker 1>they go back to Denver and the Timberwolves got their

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<v Speaker 1>work cut.

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<v Speaker 2>We know ant Man is gonna beat ant Man. The

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<v Speaker 2>question is can Cat?

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<v Speaker 1>Can Cat give you twenty five to thirty with twelve

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen rebounds, because that's what it's gonna take, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take. Dang well, give them a give the

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<v Speaker 1>Nuggets credit, oh Joe that look, they got a three.

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<v Speaker 2>Time MVP, that the reigning champs.

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<v Speaker 1>They know what it's like to be battle tested, they

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's like to have their backs against the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew they couldn't go down O three. They know

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<v Speaker 1>they can't beat down three one. And now there's no

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<v Speaker 1>margin of eraror that. Now you gotta win all. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta win the next four games, or you gotta win

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<v Speaker 1>the next three game. Yeah, now a now is the

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<v Speaker 1>best two out of three and two of the three

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<v Speaker 1>games are on our home court. I like our they're thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I like our chances now. Yeah, they And you can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep spotting the Nuggets because if you go back and

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<v Speaker 1>look at game three, they spotted them. Let them get

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<v Speaker 1>out there, ten fifteen to twenty points games over, they

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<v Speaker 1>spent som time. You exert so much energy trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get back into the game. When you're down fifteen, you're

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<v Speaker 1>down eighteen points. It's hard. And then when you get close,

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<v Speaker 1>you get eight, and then you get careless with the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a turnover, and the next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an eight point lead now is a ten to twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn. Yeah, we was right there. But give the Nuggets credit.

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<v Speaker 1>They win behind a great performance by Nicola Jokic and

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gordon, and they send it back tied to to

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<v Speaker 1>to Denver and they played game five on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pacers dominate.

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<v Speaker 1>The Knicks shot the ball well, making fifty seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the shot knocking out fourteen three.

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<v Speaker 2>The Knicks looks sluggish, a step slow.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nova Knicks combined for twenty seven points, ten of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six from the floor, one of thirteen from the

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<v Speaker 1>three point line and the combined and the combined trio

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<v Speaker 1>was minus ninety six and plus minus.

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<v Speaker 2>The game started.

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<v Speaker 4>When the game start, that the beginning of the game

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<v Speaker 4>told you how the game is gonna go. The beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of the game, when the Pacers nick game started, and

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<v Speaker 4>the Pacers were hitting shot after shot after shot, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think at one point it was when it was

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<v Speaker 4>it might have been seventeen nine. I might be wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>My memory might might be wrong. I think it might

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<v Speaker 4>have been seventeen nine. And from that point on, I

0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.040
<v Speaker 4>knew it was gonna be struggle Bus. The rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the game. I knew was gonna be struggle Bus.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this might've been a good thing for them because

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<v Speaker 1>they get the rest. Because you got to think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>they've playing some crazy minutes. Oh joe, ye huh, A

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. Yeah, them legs. You see how wildly those

0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 1>legs look. You keep playing forty eight and forty six

0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and forty four minutes at that intensity. Hey, they got

0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.200
<v Speaker 1>guess what they got twenty four minutes, twenty two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Brunton played, thirty one minutes, Heart played twenty four minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>They need they look it's too too We're going back home.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be in our building and let's see k A.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I picked the Pacers, Yeah, because I think because

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<v Speaker 1>they can run. I thought there they are more rounded team.

0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Their deeper team. I think the Knicks starting five is better.

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<v Speaker 1>But where the Pacers make up the ground is where

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<v Speaker 1>they bring up, bring up, bring the bench into So yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 4>With you talking about the minutes that the players are playing,

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Hart, David Devincenzo, Devin Cenzo, my bad, apologies, Josh Hart,

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<v Speaker 4>Devin Cenzo.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there a Hartenstein?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think it's on Tibbs or is it Tibbs

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<v Speaker 4>fault the fact that they're they're playing to too many

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<v Speaker 4>minutes to where they look sluggish as opposed as opposed

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<v Speaker 4>to do the way they look today, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>how they look the first two games. So is it

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<v Speaker 4>on Are they playing too many? Are they playing too

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<v Speaker 4>many minutes?

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<v Speaker 1>But they got to because they're down Julius Randall, they're

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<v Speaker 1>down Robinson, So they're down h what's a chure no

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<v Speaker 1>og anaonobe?

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<v Speaker 2>So they're down three guys his hamstring, right, Yeah, so

0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:09.160
<v Speaker 2>they're down three guys.

0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Now, Tims, everybody knows TIBs when they followed it and

0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.920
<v Speaker 1>when he was at Chicago, when he's at Minnesota, he's gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Run you in the ground.

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Now, Oh it's a track meet. Oh he's gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>you in the ground. No, you're gonna you're gonna play minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna play heavy minutes, heavy minutes. And the problem

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that you run into and the playoffs is that you

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<v Speaker 1>shorten your bench. And so now you got Jylen Brunson

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<v Speaker 1>playing forty four, forty five, forty six minutes. You got

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Hart playing forty eight eight minutes every night at

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<v Speaker 1>that level of intensity. At some point in time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna catch up with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm glad you not. I got something you can

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<v Speaker 4>teach me about basketball Again. On the back end, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes playoff time, how about you don't shorten

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<v Speaker 4>the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't because you gotta go with the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>you know. You gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna shorten it because you gotta go with the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that you know. You got three or four guys, right,

0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and now obviously it could change. You put a guy

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.879
<v Speaker 1>in there mop up time. You're losing by twenty points

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 1>in this three minutes left in the game, and he

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<v Speaker 1>come in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Killed a couple of buckets.

0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>He catches your eye, like, okay, kind of like if

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you go back and look at the situation with the

0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Golden State Warriors, they were getting blowed out in game three,

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 1>they make the switch, put IgA Dollar in there.

0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:22.760
<v Speaker 2>They're like, okay, we like the way his flow right

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 2>right right.

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<v Speaker 1>They lose another game, So maybe there's something that one

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.359
<v Speaker 1>of the guys can come in and do that's gonna

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.840
<v Speaker 1>cause him that Like he catches the catches the coaching

0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>staff eyes and they're like, okay, let's see if we

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.640
<v Speaker 1>can give a getting give him four or five.

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<v Speaker 2>Minutes, Let's see what he can do. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bench, and this is why I gave Indian

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 1>edge is because of Obi Topping and because of TJ McCollum,

0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>McConnell and Jackson, those guys off the bench. TJ McConnell,

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<v Speaker 1>you love a guy like that. He's gonna look, he

0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.919
<v Speaker 1>can't stop brunting. He's like, I just want I just

0:20:57.960 --> 0:20:59.439
<v Speaker 1>want to just tie him. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>you work.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it tu, I want to make you work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna pick him up at ninety four and

0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 1>then when I go out, hey, y'all, guys might not

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.240
<v Speaker 1>pick him up ninety four, but pick him up fifty.

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Obie Tomping is coming in giving you buckets. Hey, the

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Knicks drafted it. He's like, y'all gave up on me.

0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Let me show you what y'all missing that. And so

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what Jackson is. Active, active on the board. He

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<v Speaker 1>giving your putbacks. That was the reason why I took

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacers. I think the Knicks have the better starting five,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think the Pacers have the better bench. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now we got to get into it where you

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<v Speaker 1>have to play your bench because your guys are fatigued

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<v Speaker 1>or some guys are in foul trouble, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what would give the next I mean the Pacers

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<v Speaker 1>the advantage.

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<v Speaker 4>I got this, I got I got the perfect, perfect scenario,

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<v Speaker 4>perfect scenario for the next players. Josh Hard, I know

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna see this. Jayden Brunson, I know y'all gonna

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<v Speaker 4>see this, Cold Tub. I know you already do that anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>cold Tub before the next game.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it.

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<v Speaker 4>You got a few days the rest contrast back and

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<v Speaker 4>forth you for the next game. After doing the cold,

0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 4>cold tub, you do your shoot around whatever. I know

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<v Speaker 4>you're not gonna You're not gonna tis not gonna push

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<v Speaker 4>you hard before your next game, right before you play again,

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.080
<v Speaker 4>hit the cold tub, right before the game. Take a

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<v Speaker 4>half a viagra. Take a half a Viagra, and I

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<v Speaker 4>guarantee you it. Get the blood flow going, that explosion

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 4>and you're feeling fresh like it's the beginning, the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of the season. That's exactly how you gonna feel. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>telling you it's gonna save you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how you do the contrast before what well he

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<v Speaker 1>came over.

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<v Speaker 2>You know our contract. You'll get hot, hot, hot, cold

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<v Speaker 2>and bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and you get that first, you get that

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<v Speaker 4>fresh blood flowing falling through the body. Hey, and you

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good, right, okay, I do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let go, let go, Let's go left gold last go. Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, the people in the chat that probably don't know

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.679
<v Speaker 4>that have never played sports at that level. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 4>you played in high school, don't understand what it feels

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<v Speaker 4>like when you're getting that cold tub in that hot tub.

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<v Speaker 4>You contrast back and forth and you get you get

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 4>those chilled you freeze everything up and you're getting that

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 4>that that hot tub and everything released. You get back

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 4>in the cold and do it back and forth. I

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<v Speaker 4>used to do it about maybe three times. Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 4>it's time to go out there and run again or

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<v Speaker 4>I sweart for God, I feel like you never ran

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<v Speaker 4>a day in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you feel like you never ran a dan so flood,

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<v Speaker 1>so cool, so good, brand new man.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, if if, if, if, if, Josh har Jalen Brunson.

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<v Speaker 4>I know y'all gonna see this. Add the half of

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 4>peel at half a viagra. I'm telling you, the increasing

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<v Speaker 4>blood flow is going to help the lure by the

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<v Speaker 4>extremities to increase explosion, athleticism, lateral movement, all that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you, I'll lie for you before I lie

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to you. Try it next due excuse me. The Pacers

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>do what they need to do. They hold Servant home,

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<v Speaker 1>they take game, they go back to Madison Square Garden

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>tied to to normally, they say what seventy seventy three

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>percent team that win Game five ends up winning the series.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, Knicks gotten blown out all the games. For

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, it really come down to the wire.

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>The last two to three minutes of the ball game.

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 1>This game was over at the end of the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, you know, twenty points in today's game,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't see anything, any sorm of life, any

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of spark that the Knicks would could display that

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<v Speaker 1>made you think they were going to ever get back

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<v Speaker 1>into this game.

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<v Speaker 2>But give the Pacers credit.

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>They tie the series up, head back to New York,

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<v Speaker 1>tie to to the Atlanta Hawks get the number one

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick. The Hawks earned the number one overall pick

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>in the lottery this year despite having a just three

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<v Speaker 1>percent chance of doing so. Nine other teams had better

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<v Speaker 1>offs for the number one pick, but Atlanta managed to

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>leap frog them off GM Landry Fields. You remember Landry

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Field played with the Knicks, also played with the Toronto Raptors.

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<v Speaker 1>Told reporters moving the number one pick isn't on the

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<v Speaker 1>team radar just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?

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<v Speaker 4>What do they mean moving the number one pick? So

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 4>is there a chance that Hawks wouldn't want it?

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<v Speaker 1>You mean yeah, because they're looking at it. There's not

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>a Lebron, there's not a shot. There's not a Tim Duncan,

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>there's not a Victor women Yon, There's not a Kore.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not one, just one franchise changing player in the draft,

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<v Speaker 4>not one, No man.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, even ant Man wasn't consensus. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>consensus number. Well, yeah, because you had James Wiseman and

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you had LaMelo Ball. So it wasn't like a shot

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<v Speaker 1>when Shaq came out right Orlando or as a matter

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>of fact, Orlando disconnected their phone because they ain't even

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>want you to waste your time calling them when Lebron

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.959
<v Speaker 1>came out. Only waste your time calling when Tim Duncan,

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>when Wimby, I mean, you're not moving a.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy like that, Time out, time out. I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 4>How was Anthony as was knocking census when he was

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<v Speaker 4>coming out? What were what were the scouts looking at?

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<v Speaker 4>And are you saying LaMelo Ball and James wiss was

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 4>better than him during that time?

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>No, but I'm saying there was. There were there were

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>some thoughts that Lamello Ball could go number one, James

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Wiseman count go with number one.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like when.

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>They talked in ninety two draft, everybody new Shack was

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>going number one, right, everybody knew. Everybody knew Lebron was

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>going number one, even though he was coming out of

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>high school, right Lebron was going number one. Everybody knew

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<v Speaker 1>that there are certain guys like Tim Duncan.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the fact that coming out of Georgia, Anthony

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't viewed as a consistous overall number one pick is

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<v Speaker 4>beyond me based on how he's turned out in such

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<v Speaker 4>a short amount of high see.

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<v Speaker 1>But but here's the thing. There have been a lot

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of number one picks that didn't turn out like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Name one, well, and okay, name two, and wait, wait

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 4>a minute before you name him. Remember name one that

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:00.959
<v Speaker 4>didn't turn out how it should turn out that win

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<v Speaker 4>number one, But it wasn't because of injury. That wasn't injured,

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 4>that just turned out all this is messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Michael, Michael Oliver, Michael Olover, Candy injury, Michael Candy

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Man didn't have no injury.

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 2>He ain't had no bad knees.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about you, So you talked about Greg Olden

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>from Yeah, oh that's Oldin.

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<v Speaker 2>He had he had bad needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, okay, Well, I mean they've been they've been

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<v Speaker 1>the guy from a Cleveland what was his name?

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 2>And he been it. He went number one. He's out

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 2>of the league in two years. Wait out of the

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.719
<v Speaker 2>league in two years and you went number one. Yes,

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>ain't no, oh Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>The hardest thing is to do is to predict what

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>someone is going to be because you don't know how

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>hard is they're gonna work. What does it mean to him?

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Because you look at a guy like yo Kids Yokis

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>came in the league. You know Yoki's drafting in the

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 1>second round. He was fat, he was out of shape,

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and he said it, he said, I drank. He said,

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I drink in a case to maybe two cases, like

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>a case of coke a day. He trimmed up for

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>three MVPs in four years. Now he's the best player

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>in basketball. It's like the football player, Oh Joe, We've

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>seen them guys go number one. How do I know, Ojo?

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>How do I know what's in here? I see all

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the physical tools. I see a guy throw the ball

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>sixty yards on one knee. I see the guy roll

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and throw the ball back across the field eighty yards.

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I see a guy do all that, But how much

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>time is he gonna put into it?

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 4>I have a question, do you think at times some

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 4>of the teams that they go to, it does more

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 4>good than bad. It does more bad than good based

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 4>on where they go, as in basketball and football. So

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 4>you look at the situations players. When you get drafted

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 4>early in the NFL, you're going to a horrible team.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 4>Most of the time. That number one pick is normally

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback. And when you go to a team and

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 4>your quack one and they're horrible, you get in the

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 4>situation like, uh, what's what's young Bull? What's young Bull?

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 4>From Alabama? Went to went to Carolina? Bryce Bryce Young?

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh look, look you come from Alabama.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 4>There are no weaknesses on defense, on offense, your oh

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.479
<v Speaker 4>your old line is good, you're running back good, your

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 4>receivers are good. And then once you get to the

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 4>next level, you have to do that much more because

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 4>you're going listen, the playing field evens out.

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Once you get to the league. Yeah, it evens out.

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>But a lot a lot of times it's not how

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>high you go because but oh Joe, it's where you go.

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to be number one. I don't give a

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>damn seeing me to hell. If I'm gonna be the

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>number one pick, they.

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Be go to hell. I won't be number one.

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Nah, I want to be the number one pick, Oyo,

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Because guess what, there's something about that. Everybody says. What

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>do you hear them say when the guys come out

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to the draft? What did they say?

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Oyo? Football? Basketball, baseball? What they say? What they want

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 2>to be? Ojoe? Who said that? You know what?

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to be the second pick in the draft.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to be the tenth pick in the draft.

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>But circumstance, I'm the best player in this draft, and.

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>You're the best player. You gotta understand.

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Look at the team you're going to, because what's gonna

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 4>happen now you're the best player in the draft. You

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 4>are the best on the team that you're in when

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 4>you had a bunch of stars around you.

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>If you're going to the worst.

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 4>Team, you can get exposed when you other number one pick,

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 4>which happens most of the time because you don't have

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 4>that elite talent around you.

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Right now, you've got to be that boy. Now, if

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>you really not that boy, you're gonna get exposed. Height.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>But you gotta think about and plus O Joe, they're

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>so young. It's not like when guys like Tim Duncan

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>came out. Tim Duncan played all four years. So Tim

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Duncan is twenty two. You get guys coming out now,

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>O yo, the eighteen it's nineteen years of age.

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole.

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>There's a big gap between a nineteen year old thinking

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and a twenty two year old thinking.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>It just is yeah.

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh, and you know what else comes into play? Skill set? Yes,

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 4>your skill set, what you can do. I mean you

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 4>could you could be, you could be twenty two. And

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 4>you can have a twenty year old that's a hooper.

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 4>You can have an eighteen year od that's hooper. And

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 4>the at yo might be better. Mindset might be better.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 4>Look at a guy like Kobe.

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Kobe came in at seventeen years of age, but he

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>had a twenty five year old mindset. R. Only thing

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>he cared about was basketball, right, That's it. That chasing

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and doing that other stuff. Kobe cared about basketball. You

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>look at Lebron came in eighteen, turned nineteen in December.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>He had a singular focus. Shaq got an opportunity to

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>spend three years in college. That's a whole different ball

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>game as a guy spend in one year in college,

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>because you do get to develop a pattern of being

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>away from home, being on your own one year of college,

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>that's really not a whole lot of time. And then

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>some guys was coming straight out of high school.

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think come out of high school, you got

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 4>to be a basketball savant.

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>You got to get that boy.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 4>You got to just dominate the competition to where it

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 4>looks like you almost don't belong.

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>You not supposed to be here, right, I mean you

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 2>had guys that like that.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Do I believe had had Shaq that is his father

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>who was in the military, shot could have come out

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>because I mean he's seven to one, he's twenty, he's

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>damn there, three hundred pounds as an eighteen year old.

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Where they grow where they.

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Grow them at right, right, right, right right.

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't coach. I can't coach hype you either, habit.

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I can teach you to get lateral quickness. I can

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>work on you the three point shot. I can teach

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you to get I can't teach you to grow what

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do. Put cambanour on your shoes. It's a

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>nice bird let, nice dirt. I can't teach you that.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just what they're saying in football, Oh Jo, I

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>can't teach you to run fast.

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Son, you can't teach speed. You can't speed.

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I can teach you technique. I can say, Son, Hey,

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>sit outside, follow your keys. You know when they they

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>on the three by one. See where he's lined up? Hey,

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>what you're playing for? I mean, look, think about where

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>he's at. He's two yards outside the numbers. Hey, I'm

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking out what you're thinking. Yeah, he's three yards outside number.

0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>What you're thinking? I'm thinking?

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Bang? You know what I'm say.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I can get keys based on his alignment, the formation,

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>where we are on the field, and based on the

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and based on the data that we're breaking down through four, eight,

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>twelve Highremny games. So I can fact all the it. Now,

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>how well can I process that through the course of

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the game, because I gotta do a lot of teams,

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot of guys can do it in the first quarter,

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>But then the second quarter of your mind starts to drift. Okay,

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you've giving up a play and now you're focused on

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and now you're not reading your kids. But this, look

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>at this. In the twenty eighteen draft, DeAndre Ayton went

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>number one overall. Marvin Bagley went number two overall. Guess

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>who the third pick was o Yo Luca.

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>So who you think should have been number one in

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>that draft onho.

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 4>Based on what they've done so far? Yeah, Luca and

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 4>now Marvin Badley. He hasn't been that bad, has he.

0:33:58.400 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 4>He hasn't been that bad.

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>He's been all he's been. He's been in Sacramento. I

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>think he went in Sacramento. He's in Detroit right now.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:10.879
<v Speaker 2>Huh uh. The eleventh pick. Guess who The eleventh pick in that.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Draft was eleven yep, the eleventh pick of the draft

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Guess who he was?

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>On?

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Joe? Who that Shaye? Gilgus Alexander? What? What? What?

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 4>What are the scouts looking at in college?

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 2>See? Oh Joe? If it was that easy, nobody would miss.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Yo.

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Kid went in the second round like in the forties.

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 2>So you just you never know.

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 4>So I'm so basketball and football must be completely different

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 4>then when it comes to drafting, because what you put

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 4>up in college most of the time, if I'm to me,

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking most of the time. When you saw Jamar

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 4>Chase in college, you knew what you was getting when

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.240
<v Speaker 4>you drafted him. When you saw Justin Jefferson in college,

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 4>you knew what you was getting when you drafted him

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 4>that early.

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>You knew what she was getting. Well, tell me why

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Tom Brady went in the sixth round one ninety two.

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, you know what, Now that's a good one.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. I ain't got I ain't dragging

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 2>it for that. I ain't even got that. John Ramda

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>went undrafted, Minnesota biking. John Dall went undrafted. Well that's crazy.

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Jylen Brunson was picked thirty three in twenty.

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Eighteen Villanova Villanova, Jaylen, Yeah, that's the second round.

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 2>They only got two rounds, right, they only got two rounds.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>They only got they got thirty They got thirtyeen, so

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you get the thirty is the cutoff?

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 2>You think that was because of this hype? Hell, Allen

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Iverson how tall? You thought?

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I wold Allen Avas. That's a different animal. Now

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 4>come on, now that's a different animal.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But see that, that's what you did that you think

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>about this train scouts, You see what you did like

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the scout.

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>You're bastill on this sight.

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>You've you forget what you saw at Billanova when he

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>led them to a national championship.

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 4>See, oh, I'm only wait, I'm only let me tell

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 4>you why I'm saying that though uh not the was

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 4>it the college championship this year? That somebody uh what?

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 4>Wh who won the college championship this year? You can't

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 4>who is the guard that's really short? And I said,

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 4>oh man, he's bawling. He definitely going to the NBA.

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 4>And everybody on Twitter got on my head. Now he

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 4>might he might make it to the G League.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>He's too short, Castle Castle.

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 4>I think that that that might be him, if I'm

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 4>not mistaken. Obviously, I can't go like.

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>You like the big tall guy, you like the seven

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.439
<v Speaker 1>three guys, you like Zach Edy so but they ain't

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>got no place for him to play in the NBA.

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 4>I thought, I listen, and maybe it's too late. Now

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 4>what hell if Kaki do it? Can they work on

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 4>his mid range? Can they work on him playing at

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 4>the top top of the key?

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Nah? Nah?

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>No? I mean he at worst he should be able

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to be get some hustle. He could be a hard

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>and stun hard and styned the carved out a night lit.

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>He can be. He can be a zoo box. You

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>mean to tell me he can't be zoo bombs from

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the Clippers, right, now, I mean everybody, Look, everybody gotta

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>be shacked. Everybody at gotta be Tim Duncan. Everybody ain't

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta be Kareem Damn. You got to have the footwork

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>for that. You got that footwork has been in them

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>for life. It's already been there, so that the foundation

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>to work.

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, then you you add the tools and you had

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 4>the footwork already, then you become Tim Duncan. Missed the fundamentals.

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, oh Jo, people just automatically assume

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>if they see somebody short, but he should be a

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>if you see somebody tall, why he can't be this?

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Hey, dag he talling it bro It don't work like that, DNA.

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Everybody is six.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>So now every time somebody six six, oh, that's Michael, George,

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Joe God, Michael Jordan was six six, Toby was six six,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and so everybody that's six sy they remind you, Kobe,

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>remind you know, they don't.

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you understand that.

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>They're like there's levels, no matter what, there are levels,

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>even if you go in the most exclusive store, there's

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>levels to this. They got stuff that's out that you

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>can touch, and then they gotta that same store they

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>got issued behind the glass. Okay, so there's levels to

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever you do. They got levels to.

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 4>It, and every everybody has a ceiling. You can work

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 4>as hard as you want on everything you want, but

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 4>you still have a physical ceiling on what you are

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 4>kid is doing based on your DNA, You're.

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Only gonna be able to do so much.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and people like, well if he could do this,

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I say, man, so y'all wanted God to make Shock

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>have footwork like Elija. Want can shoot the ball, can

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 1>shoot the ball like dirt and the wisky and then

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>handle the ball.

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 2>What damn high fair would that be? He made him

0:38:58.560 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>seven one three.

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Five less than jimper sent body fat man if Lebron,

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I said, Bro, do you understand what Lebron is. He's

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>six foot nine, two hundred and sixty five pounds. He

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>got Karmeloan's body. He can handle the ball like magic,

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and he can post you up like a like a

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>true five. But y'all wanted to shoot the ball like

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry. God dang, just imagine if Steph Curry was

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>six Imagine if Steph Curry was six s eight?

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>What damn how fair would that be? You gonna let

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 2>the man be six sy and be able to shoot

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 2>the ball like like that.

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's crazy, it's crazy.

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>They won't their favorite player O Joe to have everything,

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 2>every attribute like two k.

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he gotta, God gotta make him have some

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>He gotta be able to have some weakness, even the

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>fastest cars. So what if a car could go two

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:49.879
<v Speaker 1>hundred miles an hour? Man, I wanted to get fifty

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>miles to the gallop?

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 2>God?

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 1>D how you how you walk up to go that

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>fan get fifty miles to the gallo?

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 4>But you know it's think about what you did all

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 4>the attributes you just said, you know who got everything?

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Win by Yama?

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 4>Well maybe except maybe not the not maybe not the

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>the strength.

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>What if what if what if he had shack size?

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that wouldn't be fair, don't you That wouldn't be fair.

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 4>That would hey hold on to be able to put

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 4>the ball on the floor like that, to be able

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 4>to like that three go on the post? Yeah, oh head,

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 4>that wouldn't be fair. And then you add you add

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 4>wait and put wait on him like shout.

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. How's that fair? Nah? No, So

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't give a guy everything Damn, that's

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 2>like fair.

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>What if Tom Brady had had Lamar Jackson quickness?

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, what if tom Brady was like Michael vick.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Man mad them joking with hunted to know that with

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:57.919
<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl lever. Come on, man, never lose.

0:40:58.080 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 1>You gotta have you got I mean something, you gotta

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>have some There gotta be some limitations on what you

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>can do. Man, Man, what if Michael Jordan can shoot

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the three ball like Steph Really, dude, really so hit

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the game. He could jump out the gym, he got

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>a mid range, he could put the ball in the

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>clock on the floor, he can put you in. He

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 1>made eighty plus percent of his bro But now you

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>want to shoot plus forty percent from the three point line.

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>On volume threes? Right? Really?

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, man, y'all want somebody to have every every

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>single thing. No no deficiencies. Everybody got a weakness.

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Who.

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Detroit Pistons have finished the worst record in the NBA

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 1>for the last two years, but the draft lottery has

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>been incredibly cruel to them. For the second consecutive year,

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the Pistons have landed the number five overall pick in

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the draft. They had a fourteen percent chance of securing

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the number one pick both years and more than fifty

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>percent chance of having a top three pick, but it

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>did not happen either time. Detroit is the only team

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to ever have the best odds to win the lottery

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>then land at number five, and it's happened to him

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>two straight years. So, God, what you get from do it?

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Losing all these damn games on purpose?

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Love? What you get? Are they losing them on purpose? Yeah?

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So if you're losing them on purpose in hopes

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 4>of getting the picks you need, at what point will

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 4>your team ever be in contention to do anything.

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, it ain't gonna be in contingent because you're you're

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:27.439
<v Speaker 1>hoping because it's like san Antonio. See san Antonio had

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 1>to draft well, because you're not gonna get somebody to

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>come to san Antonio if you go back and since

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>free agency.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 2>The only guy that's really come with LaMarcus Aldridge. Right.

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>But they drafted, They drafted Tim Duncan, they drafted Tony Parker,

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>they drafted Monuda Jano, they drafted Kawhi Leonard, they drafted

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, so you draft really really well. They had

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>They drafted David Robinson. They drafted within Beyama because the

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>likelihood of you getting somebody to come there. Look at

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers. See the Lakers gonna get people to come.

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 1>They got willed to come, got shocked to come, They

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>got Lebron to come, They got Kareem to come. Right

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>some places, you're going to a track.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Right the stars now, perfect, perfect question lead up for

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 4>my question. A place that's going to attract stars. Who

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't want to play in Atlanta? So my question, you

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.439
<v Speaker 4>had do the Hawk go full rebuild and trade Trey

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 4>Young and talk about john Ty Murray for a gang

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 4>of picks? Or keep one? Who would be the one

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<v Speaker 4>you keep?

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Did Jontey?

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Or trade keep one and try to be competitive immediately

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 4>by getting a gang of picks.

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Oh Joe, you and I know. Look,

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I love Atlanta. I wouldn't want to play in Atlanta.

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Too much distraction, distractions.

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and plus they're thirty NBA teams right, Yeah, all

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of my created equal.

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 4>Every NBA, every NBA city had distractions.

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>They ain't created like all cities ain't created like Alama.

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 2>You know that I know that.

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.280
<v Speaker 4>It's not an NBA player that's focused on his game

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 4>in the NBA with the Kobe type mindset, you think,

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 4>how much playing is going on the team.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.399
<v Speaker 1>How many thinks on the football team. How many people

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you think focused on a fifty three man roster, not

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.360
<v Speaker 1>counting the practice squad, how many of them are focus?

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean the person who has the most fun quarterback,

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 4>probably quarterback, the quarterback, quarterback.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>On a fifty three man roster, how many of them

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>as focused as they need to be?

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 2>That's that's hard. Ain't nothing going.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:48.399
<v Speaker 1>On the Cincinnati, Hey, the skyline, like that Cincinnati popping boy,

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the mid skyline chill and I know you can down

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>to what you call him to the Kentucky Derby.

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 2>I know that. Wait a minute, Cincinnati, right down the street.

0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:58.439
<v Speaker 2>To tell you something.

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 4>In Cincinnati, when I was playing, we had a place

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 4>called Annie's and He's and he's just like Magic City.

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.240
<v Speaker 2>That like Magic City.

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Ain't nobody putting, So we had ain't no ain't nobody putting,

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>no no song, nobody when they get to the hotel,

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 1>drop their bags off and go straight to and they

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>go into Magic City.

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Stop it. Hey, we had roller skating.

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 4>I used to go to I used to go to

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 4>the session after the game, seven to eleven rollerskates.

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>You go to the roller skate down road, you.

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Have same same thing. I mean, I mean, I'm just saying.

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 2>This man tried to tell me Cincinnati is the equivalent

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>of Atlanta. It is.

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 4>We got Cincinnati got women too, huh, we got we

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 4>got in the banks. When the last time you've been

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 4>in Cincinnati? Have you have you been on the river?

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 4>Have you been on the banks and seen the banks? Now,

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Cincinnati not the same Cincinnati that that you remember with.

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Think about what you said, Cinnati. Cincinnati right away.

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 4>Wait, Cincinnati today, right now is better Thanlanta.

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>What you're talking about. We have more to offer.

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.359
<v Speaker 4>Ask INTERFL players right now, we don't want to play.

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 4>Would they rather play in Atlanta or they rather play

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 4>in Cincinnati?

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 1>They would rather play with Joe Burrow? Would you rather

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 1>live in Atlanta or live in Cincinnati.

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 4>No, they're going to say they rather live in Cincinnati

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 4>and play with Joe Burrow because of what we have

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 4>to Stop.

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.879
<v Speaker 2>It, man, stop it. Let's be damn well, let's bet.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's bet what you want to be.

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Let me see y'all this man say, this man say

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.959
<v Speaker 1>women in Cincinnati are the equivalent of Atlanta.

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Better. Have you

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 2>been to Cincinnati? What are you talking about? What do

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 2>you talk about Atlanta's wait be drunk on the show. No,

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you ain't drunk. Listen. I love Atlanta, I will be.

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I love.

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I've only been Atlanta maybe five or six times in

0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:57.720
<v Speaker 4>my lifetime. I love Atlanta. It's considered black Hollywood. Beautiful people,

0:46:58.360 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 4>beautiful people.

0:46:59.480 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati.

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 4>We have everything every ethnicity. You're looking for what we got?

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 4>Uh huh what you think Atlanta got? Atlanta's called black

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 4>Hollywood for a reason because we dominated in all areas

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 4>and all facets.

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Great.

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>The only people that look here. The only people that's

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>moving to Cincinnati are athletes. They played for the Reds,

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they played for the Bengals. You need to stop this,

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 1>O Joe.

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't understand. You know, I do understand.

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 4>You think about the eighties, in the nineties, Cinnaty.

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about Cincinnati. Think about it. That is not

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 2>the same.

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.919
<v Speaker 4>We have evolved. We have evolved Cincinnati. We have evolved.

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.920
<v Speaker 4>Cincincinnati a very safe place to live. The people are great,

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 4>the organization is great.

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Right now, we have a poll up better women Atlanta

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>crushing eighty four percent Cincinnati sixteen percent.

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 4>That's because that's because the eighty four percent ain't never

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 4>been to Cincinnati, they've never lived there, and that sixteen.

0:47:56.400 --> 0:48:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Percent ain't never been to Atlanta. Chat just out of

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 1>here arguing.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 4>stating facts. Because I lived in Cincinnati for eleven years.

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 4>I've been to Atlanta six times. In Atlanta is beautiful,

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:24.320
<v Speaker 4>The people are awesome, Everybody is on their business, everybody's

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 4>is doing something great in Atlanta.

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Awesome place to be. But I had the.

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Offer we we got look accept this collapse because we're

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna put this up and we're gonna stand on business.

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:38.399
<v Speaker 2>And I want you to read the comments when they

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>come into your page.

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.720
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, Well I just said I didn't say anything

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 4>bad about Atlanta. I just said I would say people

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 4>would prefer to live in Cincinnati.

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>That's not bad.

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 4>I just said I'm not saying nothing bad people Atlanta.

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Man, Look at if you like Skyline Chili, take off

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Skyline Chili.

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever heard of jeff Ruby Steakhouse? Huh?

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Huh? The precinct. Come on now, stay with me.

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, you know y'all know for y'all known for a

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>TV show w k r P and Cincinnati. What y'all okay,

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you'll have Anderson on there?

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Stop it? Hold on? Well what is atl known for? You?

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Better stop? How about? How about this the birthplace of

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the civil rights movement? Do I say anything else? Can

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 2>I ask you a question? Yes? With that civil rights

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>moving right?

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, stay with me now, doctor Martin Luther King, Doctor

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King.

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 2>How much has changed since then?

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh? You think you think, you think you're thinking, you're

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's bad. Now go back to the civil rights

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>before before this? Oh yeah, I know.

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 2>But let me tell you something.

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 4>If you're paying attention now I'm not, I'm not. I'm

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 4>not willing to get into politics. But if you're paying attention,

0:49:58.120 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 4>you know history piece itself, don't it?

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>You know that, right?

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 1>But that's what you gotta do. You've got to educate

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and enlighten people so we don't let it repeat itself.

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 4>Listen, I'm glad you said that.

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Listen.

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you know the history of Cincinnati? Do you know

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the sister of Cincinnati and the police officer in the

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>black sta Yes? Oh yeah, yeah, I know, well, I know,

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, but I'm just saying. I'm just saying, listen,

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I like I like fighting a good fight. Stay with

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:26.919
<v Speaker 1>me real quick. Listen to what I say real quick.

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I normally don't like to go into politics.

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but the civil rights movement history lays repeats itself.

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 4>Now I love the good fight, and I love to

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 4>be a part of the good fight. Yes, farll of

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 4>me is the people you need to swing at and

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:41.799
<v Speaker 4>the people need to touch are untouchable.

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.879
<v Speaker 2>You get where I'm going with this. No, we just look,

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 2>we understand we got to do. We're gonna do a

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:47.440
<v Speaker 2>better job.

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Because my job is as a person that has a

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>little haves a little power, a little thing is to

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 1>employ people that look like me, and then hopefully they

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.319
<v Speaker 1>become big enough they leave me and have their own

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.879
<v Speaker 1>company and hire more people that look like.

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 4>Us, and to continue to keep that change.

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>That's yes, yes each other, Yes, yes yeah.

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And I try to collab like Gil because I offered

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the pay Gill Gil said, Nah, I just want to

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>be because I see what you're doing and I want

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you to show me how you're doing it right. A

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.959
<v Speaker 1>lot of times I've tried to partner with people they're like, nah, nah,

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>we good, Okay, you could.

0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:25.799
<v Speaker 2>I ain't been.

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not fit to beg somebody to try to give

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 1>them information, Ojo when they're unwilling to accept it. You know,

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 1>he think he thinks he Joe Rogan, Oh, he think

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>it right to argue with you. You said, no, I'm good.

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what.

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 4>You know what I would love to do speaking of

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 4>collabing and speaking of I wish I was able to

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:50.319
<v Speaker 4>show my range, Like I know, people see people see

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 4>me in this's you know, the funny guy, fun guy

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.439
<v Speaker 4>having fun. But there's a serious side of me as well,

0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 4>one that I don't show very often. I would love

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 4>to talk politics. I would love to talk racing, religion

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 4>and all this stuff. But that's really never been my stick.

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 4>That's never been my next you know. I wish I

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 4>could talk politics like Roland Martin. I wish I could

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 4>talk politics like a Don Lemon or Mark Lamont and

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Mark Lamont Hill. I would love to be able to

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 4>say the show that range, be on a platform and

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 4>actually sit there and break things down.

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 2>But I can.

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean I can, but I don't want to because

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 4>I understand that's a battle where there's no win because

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.239
<v Speaker 4>it's always back and forth. It's always it's always tugging, pull,

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:35.959
<v Speaker 4>back and forth, back and forth, and there's never there's never,

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 4>never a solution because we're still fighting the same fight.

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 4>EON's years later.

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the biggest thing is OJOE is that

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 1>right now people are dug in on their sides. It's

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of like it's kind of like what we have

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>right now is the Jordan Lebron debate. You either believe

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 1>it's Jordan or you believe it's.

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Lebron based on preference. Right now, this is where we are.

0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got two party system, and you belie even

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that no matter what happens, no matter what he does boom,

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 1>no matter what the other side, no matter what he does,

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>no matter what.

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 2>He says, you believe in that. So that's it's hard.

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And when you get a perk, when you get people

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>that's so dug in on their belief, it ain't no

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 1>moving them off.

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 2>You can't change it. It's impossible. So what you try

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 2>to do is get the people that's undecided.

0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:22.919
<v Speaker 1>You try to sway them because they're a certain group

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of people. When that man said he could shoot somebody

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.720
<v Speaker 1>on fifth Avenue, but nothing happened.

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:30.800
<v Speaker 2>He ain't lie. Oh yeah.

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:32.839
<v Speaker 1>And there are certain people that vote Democrat and they're

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna vote Democrat and they're not gonna lie. Yeah, And

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>so that's that's where we are.

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 4>Hey, you know, before you before we go on to

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:43.359
<v Speaker 4>the next thing, always always think about it like this, right,

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.840
<v Speaker 4>you have Democrats, you have Republicans, right, yes, and you

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 4>had the government the government to me, I believe at

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 4>times it gives us the illusion that they're for the people.

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:57.360
<v Speaker 4>To me, at times it gives us as the people,

0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 4>an illusion that they're for us. But if you really

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:04.439
<v Speaker 4>dig into a deep and you realize there's a higher

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 4>power that controls everything, that pulls the strings, there are

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<v Speaker 4>a certain number of families I'm not gonna get I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna get too deep into it that no matter

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<v Speaker 4>what happens, they only gonna allow so much freedom for.

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<v Speaker 2>Us, only so much.

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<v Speaker 4>And every time they give you a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 4>what we do or we get hyped, we get happy

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<v Speaker 4>because they move the inch, they move the bar just

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit, just a little bit, and just a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit, and what's going to happen at one point?

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<v Speaker 4>And we when you'll say I'm not sure when it

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<v Speaker 4>will happen. History will start to repeat itself. Certain laws

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<v Speaker 4>that will put in place will be taken away little

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<v Speaker 4>by little. Matter of fact, if you don't pay attention,

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<v Speaker 4>If if you don't pay attention, you won't even notice

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<v Speaker 4>is happening. But they're gonna pull it right right from

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<v Speaker 4>the front of the rug.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so you know, so you know, you know, Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to get I don't want to I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to make this a political debate.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, what I mean, everybody saw that. You see

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<v Speaker 2>what happened with Roe v. Wade.

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<v Speaker 1>You see how they you see how they try to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, do away with affirmative action.

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<v Speaker 2>See all the things that they're trying to implement. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The government can't be for the people if there are

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<v Speaker 1>people that have power that can swear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really that simple. I wish it was. I wish it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish it wasn't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you know what, Hey, uh, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have a nightcap after the first bitual debate.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have the debate Camp