1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Time for a weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor. Week sixteen. The holidays are upon us. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: It's a trip to the West coast to Las Vegas. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, Fred, for a team that's 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: out of it, like three and what are they now? 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Three and eleven, I've lost track. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, brutal. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: Three left, three games left, so we got the Raiders 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: Titans coach. Yeah, so, I mean it happens. You know, 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: it happens when you're out of it. Everyone's out of it, 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: you me, the fan base. You know, we're still hoping 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: that they can show face, so to try and say 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: you face a bit. As we all prepare, you know, 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: it's the holiday season. There's a whole lot to kind 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: of lose track of. People are prepping for the holidays. 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: You got family visiting, or you're taking trips, all that 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: different stuff. The players are making decisions on what they're 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: gonna do with the end of their year because it's over. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: I mean quite naturally, it's over. Yeah, we still get 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: to or they still get to get up for the 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: next opponent, but they know it's over. You know, you 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: want to make sure you finish this season on a 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: high note, be able to check out on your checkout 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: exam healthy if you can get there with these few 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: games remaining, and then you sort of, you know, go 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: through the whole routine of active recovery the early part 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: of the offseason. The camp come by and you kind 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: of sit tight to see what happens. But then the 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: excitement comes back all over again. So that's the next 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: few months. 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: Red Taylor with us. 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: You know, as of late the last recent history, the 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars have been bad at every time zone for the 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: most part, but historically the Jaguars have really struggled on 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: the West coast. That's from even back to the nineties. 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: Why is that? 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: What's the reason behind that? 38 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: You know? I, you know what, JP, I really don't 39 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: know the answer to that, but I know the times 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: I've traveled west to play. I remember this one game 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: that won't leave my mind, and we were down twenty 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: one zero or something to the Chargers when they were 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: in San Diego way back in the day. I remember 44 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: Ladani and Thomason and Turner who ended up eventually going 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: over to the Falcons. They had monstrous day on us. Early. 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: I was like, man, that should be me. I was 47 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: waiting for this matchup and it just didn't happen. And 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: that was under Jack Dale Rio. I don't I didn't 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: play much further than that, Like I was injured when 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: we went to Seattle, San fran You know, I missed 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: a few West Coast trips. So really between that game 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: West and maybe the Cardinals way back in Tempe, but 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: I think we beat them back then. But either way, 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: we haven't Historically, we haven't performed well, you know, anywhere 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: further than Texas. So we don't have that many games too, 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: so the numbers will be a little skewed. So what 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: that means is you want to win the ones you 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: have because they are a few and thin, so when 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: we are out there, you want to try to win them. 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: And this isn't about as good as it gets, you know, 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: and that opportunity because the Raiders are struggling, although they 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: did put up a fight early on in the game 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: versus Atlanta, but eventually they looked as bad as the 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: Jags have looked of late. 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Ben Taylor with US. Yeah, and that's h Yeah. They 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: played on Monday Night football and they've had their own issues. 67 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: Quarterback carousel there and and everything going on. Mac Crosby's 68 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: out for the season now, so they're and they're right now. 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: They're the number one pick in the draft if it 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: were to end today. So that's the matchup coming ahead now. 71 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: From the Jaguars perspective, we talked about this on on 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: the postgame the other night. The young players getting time 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: and playing well is a good step. We know about 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas junior, we know about Brenton Strange, but Doug 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Peterson this week's talking about some of the younger guys 76 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: on defense. Prince might get a little bit more time 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: in the secondary, a young guy, a rookie. But you know, 78 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: that's that's what this time of year is for now, 79 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: right If the head coach is saying it, he's pretty 80 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: much relegated it. They still want to win the games, 81 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: But get those guys out there and get them some 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: time on task. What can that do for the culture 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: of the team when you have guys that have playing 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: experience moving ahead? 85 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: You know what it's it's the fifty to fifty ball, right. 86 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to try and win, but you 87 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: also want to see what you can unpack and see 88 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: who you know who can contribute to the team going forward. 89 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: Everything right now, it's a value play. How can we, 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: you know, shave our books a little bit? From a 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: business standpoint, They've been making some moves. They paid a 92 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: lot of money, you know, recently here with the signing 93 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: of Josh Heinz Allen and and the quarterback Trevor Lawrence. 94 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: They brought an Eric Armstead, you know, that was a 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: big check, and they sprinkle a few dollars around that 96 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: Tyson Campbell. So they have to really look at their 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: books and see what players are important to them. You're 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: gonna have role players, but you want to have a 99 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: nice mix of young guys in there that can contribute. 100 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: So now is the best time to see what you 101 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: have on your plate because you're not going anywhere at 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: this particular point. And again that's why I call it 103 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: the fifty fifty. You're gonna win with them or you're 104 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: gonna lose with them. It's all a gamble. You put 105 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: them out there and you evaluate them, see how they respond, 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: and you really. 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: Go from there. You're not really hurting your draft stock. 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: You know. 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 3: That's also a whole other question. They have time to 110 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 3: look at that. As we mentioned in the post game 111 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: so yeah, it doesn't hurt anything, you know, even if 112 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: you throw fifteen targets to Brian tell Us, let him 113 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: break the rest of the records and see how he respond. 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: But I think you try and find some sort of 115 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: identity and the guys that you know can make plays 116 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: for you. I like to look at the interior, the 117 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: interior defensive line. Let's see what's there. You know, I 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: don't know why we continue to put Eric Armstead at 119 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: the end so much. You put him in the interior, 120 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: and let's force the issue there. You got too, you know, 121 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: top six picks at the book ends. Let them do 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: their jobs and create this defensive front. This this amazing 123 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: defensive front that you hope that you have when you 124 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: sign Armstead. So it's a good time to take a 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: look at all of these guys, but also take a 126 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: look at your coaching staff as well in the process. 127 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: You know, see who's still teaching these guys as if 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: you're you're going out there in the playoff environment or 129 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: something and hold everybody account. 130 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: You can't cut any corners. 131 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Taylor, with us, we saw the big plays allowed. We've 132 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: seen this all year, by the way, we saw it 133 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: again last week in the fourth quarter, Devonte Adams goes off, 134 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: but they're blowing assignments still, and it seems to be 135 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: they might change a guy out and an assignment gets 136 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: blown again. Yeah, I mean, what's the solution to all 137 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: these blown assignments on defense? 138 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: It goes back to that accountability thing, you know, and 139 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: having guys out there with experience, or even the guys 140 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: that don't have the experience. 141 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: It comes back down to the classroom. 142 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: You know, the veterans in those position meetings, they have 143 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: to make sure that all their guys are good to go. 144 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: And the guys can't run from it. You know, the 145 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: young players, you can't run from it. The thing what 146 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: I did best, And yeah, they can say the running back. 147 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: Position is one of the easier positions. 148 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: To learn, Yes, say that, until you have a two 149 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty pound linebacker rushing down the center your 150 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: chest cavity. You got to figure out how to pick 151 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: them up. But you got to also know when to 152 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: pick them up. And so knowing your assignments, I made 153 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: sure that every player in my room was good. Like 154 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: guys ask me questions. I'm here, I'm available. I'm going 155 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: to teach you everything I know the coaches would put 156 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: me on the board and allow me an opportunity to 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: lead the meetings. So the players would trust and coaches 158 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: would trust, but the players would also trust that I 159 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: knew what I was talking about because I'm delivering the 160 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: information to make sure that when I'm out there, because 161 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: I can't play eighty players a game, right, I want 162 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: to make sure that the guys that are spelling me 163 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 3: or my backups or spending time with that we were 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: all on the same page. 165 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: They knew their stuff. 166 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: And as a veteran leader, this is what's expected of you. 167 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: This is what you should do because it's not just 168 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: about you, it's about the entirety of the team. Each 169 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: and every group should do that. Wednesdays, all the guys 170 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: should meet at the leader in that position group's placed 171 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: and just watch them together develop that trust, that extra 172 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: sense of urgence, that camaraderie within your position group like 173 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: break it down, you know, like the army. You know 174 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: you got infantry, you got I don't know all the 175 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: different positions, but you know what I mean. So within 176 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: the group, you have small groups, right, and that helps 177 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: the bigger group and the bigger picture show accountability is 178 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: where it all starts in terms of not missing assignments, Bred. 179 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: We can always count on you. Appreciate the time as always. 180 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: I can go for days on this man. Hey, listen, 181 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: this is where I've experienced that. But I don't get 182 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: too long winded. We'll talk about it another time, like 183 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: a little fireside chat or something for the fans. Maybe 184 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: we can do that at a nice little pub around town, 185 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: just you and I, kind of like we do in 186 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: London and just really Q and A just chop it up. 187 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: Obviously will be on the Jaguars dime or something because 188 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: I ain't got it. You know, I haven't had a 189 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: contract in years, so uh yeah, but I'd like to 190 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: do that with you JP. 191 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: Let's make it happen at some point. It sounds like 192 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: a plan that we already you already got it fleshed 193 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: out already. 194 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: Hey, it's a good idea, man, I wouldn't mind it. 195 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you Fred. Thanks, get us some sponsors. Man. 196 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: You know you got all the connects. No, you're the 197 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: one that's kept up. You got all the connections. It's 198 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: work here, man, Hey me too, see your Fred Ahi 199 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: both