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Speaker 1: Hey, well, welcome back to Betcher Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena and we are here today with Zoe Zoe.

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Speaker 1: This is your third time on Betchler Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Ye, thank you.

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Speaker 1: How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: We're good, We're good. Back to reality and.

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Speaker 3: Are you in New York right now?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I just moved to the Lower East Side, so

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Speaker 2: oh do you like it? Yeah, it's really nice. I

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Speaker 2: got a roommate now, but a much bigger apartment and

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Speaker 2: saving money, so win wins all around.

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Speaker 1: That's nice.

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Speaker 3: That's the goal in New York is more space, less money.

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Speaker 1: What did you What did you do for the premiere?

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Speaker 2: I last minute got all my people together. I have

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Speaker 2: like a bartending friend and like a friendly ones in

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Speaker 2: an events space, so yeah, I got like thirty people out.

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Speaker 2: We all watched it. I made snacks and shark body

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Speaker 2: boards and made them all watching on TV. So oh

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Speaker 2: that's so fun. What was the reaction? Were they so excited? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of funny. Everyone just like they get so

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Speaker 2: excited even if you don't like really do anything. They're

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Speaker 2: just like excited to see you on TV. So it's

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Speaker 2: fun and have to like It's also nice in New

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Speaker 2: York to have reasons to get everyone back together, as

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Speaker 2: you guys probably know, like corralling people can be tough.

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Speaker 1: Have you have you did you watch? Did you ever

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Speaker 1: watch Paradise prior to going on?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Oh you never? Have you ever seen an episode?

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Speaker 2: So literally, when they asked me to go on Paradise

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Speaker 2: and I said yes, I was like, I should probably

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Speaker 2: watch it at least one season and I could like

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Speaker 2: barely make it through a season. Not gonna lie, I

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Speaker 2: don't do Like I don't really watch all UCV, but

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Speaker 2: I watched a couple of tidbits in there. I think

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Speaker 2: was it like season six? I watched pretty good chunk

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Speaker 2: of it? Okay, okay, nice?

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Speaker 1: Any did you I was gonna say, did you notice

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Speaker 1: the difference from your season? How different it is now?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I would say there was a lot of difference.

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Speaker 2: We had win lower cast numbers, which was like crazy yeah,

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Speaker 2: and not many surprises either, which like for me, was

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Speaker 2: have my eye specifically on this person, Like I wanted

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Speaker 2: to be like shocked and like, you know, be surprised,

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Speaker 2: and I mean way better at the Cinity. I actually

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Speaker 2: was not gonna go if it was like last time,

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Speaker 2: because I heard there was horrible bugs and I'm super

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Speaker 2: ecniphobic as we know, and I don't mind. I don't

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Speaker 2: I do like good food and a bougerie place, so

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Speaker 3: So you come off Grant Season, which wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 3: What was life like between finishing Grant Season and then

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Speaker 1: It was so.

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Speaker 2: Quick, I mean you mean like filming or like once

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Speaker 2: So it's like I could barely even start to date again.

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, well, people know if you're

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Speaker 3: And what was your mindset going into the season. Did

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Speaker 3: what were the things that you took away from that

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Speaker 3: season and then how are you going into this new season?

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Speaker 2: On Grant season, it was just things tumbled very quickly,

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Speaker 2: and like I definitely got ganged up on a lote.

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Speaker 2: I felt like on the season of The Bachelor, like

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Speaker 1: Were there any men from past seasons that you were

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we all knew like Dale is

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Speaker 2: There were some other people like Tanner from Charity season.

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Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't really follow baschination. I don't really.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we see you get down to the beach.

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Speaker 3: You know you're down there pretty early your original cast.

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Speaker 1: Who did you hit it off with right away?

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Speaker 3: Obviously we know we see a lot of your relationship

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Speaker 2: I'm like really big on physical attraction, and out of

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Speaker 2: day one, like Brian I had like really good banter,

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Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, like this man's not interesting

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Speaker 2: So we were trying to like talk when we could

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Speaker 2: So it was just like this weird thing. And I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of seems like, you know, you have

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Speaker 1: Even after even after the ros ceremony you get your

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Speaker 1: anyone really locked down? Like, is anyone like we are?

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Speaker 1: We are solely dating each other and I won't even

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Speaker 2: So here's what's funny is if you had asked anyone,

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Speaker 3: After we saw your star watching day, and it definitely

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Speaker 2: So we were actually like doing those days. Like he

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Speaker 2: I would say him after the first Rose, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: And that was was Brian aware that you and Dale

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because as I said, there was like this one

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Speaker 2: doing like, didn't do anything. I was like, we're not

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Speaker 2: if it does progress. I would have gone and spoke

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Speaker 3: That's weird, Like, I give you invest all this time

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Speaker 2: That's number one. And then number two, I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: And he did over and over and over, but I

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Speaker 2: So we kissed, I know he kissed a few other people,

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Speaker 2: This was my ex two point zho and I was

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Speaker 2: You don't go say hi to other people first and

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is where I was like, I had to

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Speaker 1: You're a You're in a world of like, well why

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Speaker 1: You're upset. So if Brian would have handled if Brian

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Speaker 2: Oh one thousand percent. And he had treated me the

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Speaker 2: It's just it was this switch up, and it's just

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Speaker 2: me being in delululand it's like me being nothing but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't seem like there's any existing issues.

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Speaker 2: from my season, not respecting me as a woman enough

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Speaker 2: to like talk to me about it before. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I think that we're just very opposite people. So it

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Speaker 2: just seemed a little weird that if you were into me,

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Speaker 2: suddenly you're into her.

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Speaker 1: Right the rose ceremony we see justin ends up walking

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Speaker 1: away and there's an extra rose and you're one of

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Speaker 1: the girls that doesn't have a rose. Are you do

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Speaker 1: you at all even want this rose? Or at this

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Speaker 1: time you're just like, I'm ready to leave, I won't

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Speaker 1: even take if justin like gave you the friendship rose.

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Speaker 1: Would you've taken it or were you just like I'm

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Speaker 1: done with the show, I'm leaving.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would have been open to it, hopeful

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Speaker 2: that like knew people would have come down. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the same time, like it's nice to get back to

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Speaker 2: real life and real dating and working and everything in between.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, well we obviously see in episode three

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Speaker 3: that you do not receive the rose. You're unfortunately sent home.

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Speaker 3: What is next for Zoe post Bachelor in Paradise.

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Speaker 2: Post paradise, just getting back to reality, Like I had

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Speaker 2: to move apartments in New York, I'm modeling dating, I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to meet people. I was eager to find a partner,

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Speaker 2: find love, and like actually build with someone. So hopefully

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Speaker 2: we can find someone.

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Speaker 1: Well I think you will. And thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on and taking the time. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's your third time on the podcast, so you're one

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Speaker 1: of my most frequent guests. And to our listeners, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much for tuning into Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: We will have new and exclusive interviews every single week,

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Speaker 3: so keep on watching Bachelor Paradise and tuning into Bachelor

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