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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us A bar Garcia, and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, January fifth, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Season eighteen, episode number one oh one. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break. We're life and that s

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Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star got my crew here

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Speaker 1: with me, and actually, I'm feeling really good. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many of you guys have seen it, but

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Speaker 1: I just saw news report that there was some really

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Speaker 1: great news coming out of Cincinnati. Tomar Hamlin's or the

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Speaker 1: people that are treating DeMar Hamlin put out some information

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills saying that he is actually making remarkable progress,

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Speaker 1: thing might be progressing in the right way, and U

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Speaker 1: different topics. We got to get you guys ready for

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Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Commanders. It's coming up this weekend final game

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. Before we get to that, though,

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Speaker 1: topic that's near and dear to Nick's heart, the Hall

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Speaker 1: guys who are who are on that list Darren Woodson,

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Speaker 1: they're they're the rational So to why you think that

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Speaker 1: that that that's why he should be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: The great stories about him with breaking his arm in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: but he's was he got dementia. I mean it's bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't and and it's the story was

427
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Speaker 1: told Mickey, Mickey Spagnola his talk to the Sun. His

428
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Speaker 1: son might be here for the press conference today and

429
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Speaker 1: they told him he's get dad. He made it to

430
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He was like, that's that's nice.

431
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Speaker 1: He you know, that's what he hasn't made a play

432
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Speaker 1: in forty something fifty the years. Yeah, the process has

433
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Speaker 1: got to change. Let these guys experience that the joy

434
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Speaker 1: of being in the Hall of Fame and get this

435
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Speaker 1: thing spread up a little bit if possible. I don't

436
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Speaker 1: know how. I know it's easier said than done. But

437
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Speaker 1: the sad part is is that he's a Hall of Famer.

438
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Speaker 1: He's going to be a Hall of Famer and he's

439
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Speaker 1: never really going to get the experiences. How do you

440
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Speaker 1: fix that? And I don't want to get I know

441
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Speaker 1: we got we got only so much time. But the

442
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Speaker 1: question becomes like do you make it to where you

443
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Speaker 1: just put in a lot of guys because that's the

444
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Speaker 1: issue is that you only have so many people you

445
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Speaker 1: want to have gold in a particular year and that's

446
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Speaker 1: what makes it so special. Yes, how do you do stuff?

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Speaker 1: You know, the guy shouldn't be in like Bob Grucy

448
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Speaker 1: and I need to be in the different room. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: you know, you want to be in not the Hall

450
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Speaker 1: of Good Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine, but I need

451
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Speaker 1: I need to be in a different room than these guys.

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Speaker 1: And he's not wrong. I mean like he's on a

453
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Speaker 1: different level and they have actually done that. I mean

454
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, it's like when you graduate,

455
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Speaker 1: everyone's graduating and then these people that have like the

456
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: gold tassels didn't have those. But that's kind of stuck.

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Speaker 1: I had the hat right. Yeah, it was like first ballot,

458
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Speaker 1: but that's what they do for you know, well you're

459
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Speaker 1: not a first ballot. That's why d Work got screwed

460
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Speaker 1: last year. They didn't want to make him my first ballot.

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Speaker 1: You know. One of the one of the my favorite

462
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Speaker 1: pictures I have in my phone. We were at the

463
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame years ago and we were touring with

464
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Speaker 1: the team and Marcus asked me to take a picture

465
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Speaker 1: of him in front of Deacon jones bust and still

466
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Speaker 1: got it on my on my on my phone, took

467
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Speaker 1: a picture of him there. And now there's a chance

468
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Speaker 1: that he will be have his bust right in there

469
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Speaker 1: with those guys, which he just pretty Jones's bust because

470
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Speaker 1: they do it by years. Ye. So yeah, I have

471
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Speaker 1: to travel down. His bust will have to travel down.

472
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Speaker 1: It'll be a little farther away. He'll have to make

473
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Speaker 1: a little trip down there to get it. I'm still cool.

474
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Speaker 1: That's my favorite part of it, of the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: that's the best part. Walking through, yes and kind of

476
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Speaker 1: looking and then they were all like a critic, You're

477
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479
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480
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481
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Speaker 1: back to those years, and like guys that were getting

482
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Speaker 1: in in the nineties. That means they were playing when

483
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Speaker 1: I was a kid. You know, you look at those

484
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Speaker 1: guys very very differently. So like like Jerry Jones a

485
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame party, you see all these guys walking

486
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Speaker 1: around these yellow jackets, and you're running into guys that

487
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488
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489
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490
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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that guy most to be important. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know him, but he's got a yellow he

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494
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Speaker 1: of famers there with their gold jackets, which means there

495
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Speaker 1: was four hundred and one gold jackets. But uh, that's funny. Yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: you're right about that jacket. It was his own gold jacket.

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Speaker 1: him about some stuff. Well, we'll see if we can

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Speaker 1: arrange it. He's always a great interview he is, and

553
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Speaker 1: you can ask him questions about the Cowboys. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think Nick has his number twenty eight. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: if you If you don't, I'll give it to you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't say this, but but I will.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it. Yeah. No, I'm not. I'm not gonna

558
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Speaker 1: say that that we are friends because we're not. Like

559
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Speaker 1: I don't he probably No, No, No, you're friends. I

560
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to. I don't know you're

561
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: friend texted him last night. Yeah, I just said congratulations,

562
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: so you know, well deserved. Typical Darren. He wrote back

563
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Speaker 1: and said, thanks, appreciate it. How you've been You've been

564
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Speaker 1: all right? I mean, like, how many text us do

565
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Speaker 1: you think he's getting at the time, you know, And

566
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Speaker 1: that's just that's just him. You know, we didn't. He's

567
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Speaker 1: one of those guys that has that rare ability that

568
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Speaker 1: when you're talking to him, you feel like you're important

569
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Speaker 1: to him, you know what I mean. There's not everybody

570
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: in the world that's like that, but he's one of

571
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: those rare people that when you whenever you're talking to him,

572
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: you feel like he's connected with you at that moment.

573
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: It's never like yeah, yeah, I'm moving on to something else,

574
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Speaker 1: you know. And that's just like that. I'm gonna take

575
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Speaker 1: that back. We are friends, your friends. We're friends your friends,

576
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: your friends. Yeah, I mean I just because you don't

577
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: want to say that, like, oh, I'm just say as

578
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: a friend because to me, like one of the proudest

579
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Speaker 1: moments I ever had. When he was working at ESPN,

580
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: he likes to bounce ideas off yeah, and he would say, hey, listen,

581
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: this is what I'm seeing about this football team. And

582
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: here's a guy that's potentially going to go in the

583
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and he's asking me questions about his team.

584
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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like, man, you're Darren Woodson, Well do

585
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: you don't need my opinion? He and but it's what

586
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: made him great on the air. Absolutely, He's like he's

587
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: like he'd called me up and he'd say, hey, Brian,

588
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this about this football team. What do you seeing?

589
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: And we would we would have like an hour conversation.

590
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: He goes, okay, man, I gotta go to set and

591
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Speaker 1: I and I was like, all right, man. And then

592
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Speaker 1: like two days later, hey, well we were thinking about

593
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: talking about this and we he and I would just

594
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: shoot the bull about this team. And I was I

595
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: was honored. I was honored that this guy even wanted

596
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: my football opinion something. He's he's done that before with

597
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: me and never mind me like the one time though

598
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: even even more than that, I did a radio show.

599
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Speaker 1: He's like, you do an interview? Can you come on

600
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Speaker 1: you know, NFL radio on Saturday? You know what? Serious?

601
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Speaker 1: You know? I don't see. I was like, whatever it is,

602
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Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's gonna be. It's gonna be Chris

603
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Speaker 1: and and Dan I'm like, I'm like whatever, d Yeah,

604
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Speaker 1: I remember, like I don't know, okay, cool and I'm

605
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Speaker 1: Chris Nick even him. And then and then Dan has

606
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Speaker 1: a question. It was like Dan Nick Dan Reeves, yeah,

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Speaker 1: head coat, Like I was like what. He was like,

608
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Speaker 1: what are you see? And I was just like this

609
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Speaker 1: is I don't feel right about this, like Hall of

610
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Speaker 1: Fame coach or you should be your super Bowl coach.

611
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Speaker 1: I was just like Dan Reeves, well, Dann, what I see.

612
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Speaker 1: I didn't feel good about that at all. His son's

613
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Speaker 1: one of the best though, too, Jod we talk about

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Speaker 1: your friend that we got time for some Joe d Star, No,

615
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Speaker 1: we don't. We gotta get back in. He was awesome.

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Speaker 1: We get that another time, you know, the king of

617
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Speaker 1: the sayings, oh god, yeah, the best. Yeah, Joe as

618
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Speaker 1: the Ragman, Joe as the Ragman. It's his own name.

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Speaker 1: He just uses it as his own name. But but yeah,

620
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Speaker 1: we're on the field and La and I don't. I

621
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Speaker 1: don't typically go on the field, but he was over there.

622
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Speaker 1: I was just like, well, I'm just walking on the

623
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Speaker 1: field here. I hope I don't get hit by a punt.

624
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like pretty not the sideline, this is

625
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Speaker 1: literally on the field. Oh yeah, this is on the field.

626
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Speaker 1: He's got his guys. I just went over there and

627
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: he was warming up the punter time because I was

628
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, I think I grabbed Chris to go

629
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Speaker 1: with me. Look more official, like he was go out

630
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Speaker 1: filming something. Oh I don't want to go those. I

631
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Speaker 1: just come on, you go with me? Yeah, yeah, because

632
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Speaker 1: he's got the mast. Yeah, like, come on, that's right.

633
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Speaker 1: I forgot you. Just gotta know, Nick, you just walk

634
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Speaker 1: on like you're supposed to be on there. That's my

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Speaker 1: that's got on a sport coat and you look like

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to be there, and nobody will stop you

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Speaker 1: getting an officials pass. Just go, it works, Bryan, just hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Good to see Yeah, A

639
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Speaker 1: seven are supposed to be here. Let's go. Come on,

640
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Speaker 1: let's keep keep moving. All right, let's pip this say

641
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Speaker 1: not talked about the way that game. Let's talk about

642
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the Washington defense. First of all, one

643
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: thing I need to note, I went and looked at

644
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Speaker 1: the injury report yesterday. They're banged up. I'm not sure

645
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Speaker 1: Washington will want to play their guys this week. Yeah,

646
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Speaker 1: there would you look, I know, and I want to

647
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Speaker 1: see what it looks like today. But when you look

648
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Speaker 1: at the list of guys that did not play, did

649
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Speaker 1: not practice yesterday, and look at it from standpoint of

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Speaker 1: guys that are starters for them. You've got Jonathan Allen,

651
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Speaker 1: You've got Montes Swett, You've got Jamon Jamon Davis, You've

652
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: got Cornelius Lucas, You've got Andrew Norwell, You've got Brian Robinson.

653
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Speaker 1: It's a long list of guys that did not practice.

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00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens today, right, but as of yesterday

655
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot of their guys were sitting out of practice

656
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Speaker 1: with injuries. Yeah, their defense is the one I think

657
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of nicked up right now. Jonathan Allen and

658
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: then Kareem Curl and then Benjamin Saint Juice are the

659
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Speaker 1: ones you kind of need to worry about in this game.

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Speaker 1: It's still you watched them play against the Browns last week,

661
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: and they got after the Browns. They made these guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is a good front. I mean it's

663
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Speaker 1: a good front seven. You mentioned jam And Davis, you know,

664
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Speaker 1: with him, David Mayo, those guys. They get after it,

665
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Speaker 1: they really really do. Then they got Chase Young back,

666
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing. And Chase Young is back rushing the passers.

667
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so well you know we'll see and but

668
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, sweat Payne Alan would be a huge loss

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Speaker 1: for them in my opinion because he he really controls

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Speaker 1: the middle of that defense, and especially if you're kind

671
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Speaker 1: of having to deal with moving guys around, uh you know,

672
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Speaker 1: if you get you know, if if Tyler Smith has

673
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Speaker 1: to play inside at Tyler Smith's a strong guy. But

674
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Speaker 1: these two defensive tackles are really strong, and they're act

675
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Speaker 1: The thing when you watch the Commanders play, they they're

676
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Speaker 1: up the field. I mean they're and and one, and

677
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Speaker 1: teams were hit them on plays where it's like the

678
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: quick hitters like that, you know, where all of a

679
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: sudden you see him upfield and then it's like when

680
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Speaker 1: you when you break that first group. Now they have

681
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: a big play, but you gotta get it past that

682
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: first group of guys because they're gonna be really disruptive

683
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: in this game. They're gonna go for tackles for loss.

684
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: You know, defenses, that's what they do. But these guys,

685
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they're so big, and they and the way

686
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: that they get up the field and get around blocks

687
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: and now they're they're penetrating and they don't let you

688
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: start running the ball. But the teams that have had success,

689
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: like I say that the Browns did a good job

690
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Speaker 1: of the perimeter runs. They were able to kind of

691
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: control the edges, whether that was against Sweat or against

692
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Speaker 1: Chase Young, they were able to kind of secure that

693
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Speaker 1: edge and get the ball to the outside there to

694
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Speaker 1: where they were able. It wasn't so easy running inside.

695
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: Everything to the outside was a lot better shape for

696
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: and I think the Cowboys in this game, I don't

697
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: think you know, the game plan against the Titans appeared

698
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: to be more inside runs this scene needs. And maybe

699
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: with Tony Pollard it will be different too. It'd be

700
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Speaker 1: more of the perimeter runs. I think that's how you

701
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: find a way. They're a good tackling defense. I think

702
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller at at corner is a good player. Saint

703
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Juice is hurting them, Like I said, the other corner.

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Speaker 1: They're using this Danny Johnson number thirty six. He's a

705
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: guy who's been with him for a few years. But

706
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Speaker 1: it's not the same Saint used as a guy that

707
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Speaker 1: can cover. I mean when you talk about him and Fuller,

708
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: you can match up and they could kind of take

709
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Speaker 1: guys and and handle it. It doesn't matter. It's not like, oh,

710
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: you have to travel you you know, you have to stay.

711
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: Both these guys, I mean either side, whatever, whatever side

712
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Speaker 1: you put Lamb on, they can cover. Now that's but

713
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Speaker 1: with Danny Johnson in there, that's the guy I would tack.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't tack Kendall Fuller on the other side. I

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Speaker 1: would attack Danny Johnson if he was in there. If

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Speaker 1: that was me, I still got the Holcomb the linebacker. No,

717
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Speaker 1: they do not. Who's who's he with play? I only

718
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Speaker 1: played last year. I don't. I haven't seen him. I

719
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: think he would see if he's on the injured reserve,

720
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Speaker 1: But I don't think that he is. I just remember

721
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: that was a guy that Cowboys really light. Yeah, I'm sorry,

722
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Speaker 1: he's on IR week twelve. Yeah, I did not see him,

723
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah Holcomb. Yeah. But with all these guys injured, like,

724
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: what's really the need or necessity for them to play

725
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: them at this point? I think there's I think that

726
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Speaker 1: to me the way that I would look at it

727
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: as a pride factor to finish out, they have a

728
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: chance to be eight eight and one, you know. And

729
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: and that's remember Jason Garrett back in the day, like

730
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: trying to get to you know, get one game above

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Speaker 1: five hundred was so he played some games where they

732
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Speaker 1: they were trying to get above five hundred because for

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Speaker 1: so many years it was at stigmas like he he's

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Speaker 1: a five hundred coach. So he played a game against

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Speaker 1: I think it was the Commanders, So he played everybody

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Speaker 1: in the game just to get above five hundred. They

737
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: might be trying to they don't want to have a

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Speaker 1: losing record. Yeah, and lets also be clear, I mean,

739
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: there's nothing to say that this head coach is safe,

740
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: that these players are safe. So they're about to change

741
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: ownership to get yet to get a win in a

742
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: game like this in a city where they despise the Cowboys.

743
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: Those that aren't Cowboys fans, we share a ton of

744
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans there that that matters. And you know, anytime

745
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about rivalry type games, getting a win, some

746
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: times an a rivalry type game can make a whole

747
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: season feel a little bit better. Yeah, And going into

748
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: an offseason, I would suspect that a lot of people

749
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: in Washington the surrounding areas who are fans of the Commanders,

750
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: it'll make them feel a little bit better for whatever

751
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: the outcome of the season is, if they can get

752
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: that win this weekend, well, if they keep Dallas from winning,

753
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: potentially winning the Division two sot. But I do feel

754
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: like though, and they're playing, they're playing a rookie quarterback.

755
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out something, you know, and maybe

756
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: that's the momentum they need. Maybe the rookie quarterback goes

757
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: out and play as well, and it's like, Okay, we

758
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: don't need Carson Wentz, we don't need you know, we

759
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: don't need Taylor Heineke. We'll go with this kid. We'll

760
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: draft others, you know, we'll make this team. Said I

761
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: hope I said this. I think this is a really

762
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: I think this team should be in the playoffs. They're not.

763
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: The Giants are in the playoffs. I think this team

764
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: is better than the Giants team. So I just do.

765
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Speaker 1: I was thinking just now that if if I'm Washington,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're they're gonna be picking eight

767
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: seventeen eight team something like that. I would trade number

768
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: one pick and maybe even next year's number one for

769
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: the best quarterback that are like, if there was a

770
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson situation. I know that that didn't work out well,

771
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: but somebody like that, I would I would look into

772
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: that because I think that's what they were missing quarterback,

773
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback, and maybe maybe a team you trade

774
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: to a team that doesn't really think that they want

775
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: to trade their quarterback until you throw them a first

776
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: round pick at them and you're like, well maybe or

777
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: two first round picks. See, I get your and I

778
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: agree with the premise of that. I don't know if

779
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: I would go that particular. I would rather say, let

780
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: me give those get those first round picks and see

781
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Speaker 1: if I can move up in the draft to where

782
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: I could possibly draft that guy. Because for them, I

783
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: would look at and say, I want a young quarterback

784
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: because this year. What would scare me is what happened

785
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: with Russell. What would scare me is what happened with

786
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Like they those teams went out and said

787
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: we just need a quarterback now, and they went and

788
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: got these veteran guys that they were like, we think

789
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: we can bring them in and it just didn't work.

790
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Speaker 1: And by the way, that doesn't mean it doesn't work

791
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: for everybody, just means I would be a little bit

792
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: shy that day after watching those two players they might

793
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: be depending on. And we do our platform here with

794
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: the Draft Show and stuff like that, we'll be talking

795
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: about these guys a bunch. But maybe they're in a

796
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: position where they can get a guy like Will Levis

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00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: from Kentucky. Maybe, you know, I mean, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: young Stroud Levis. I mean, where where are the quarterbacks

799
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: going to fall? And the one thing about it is

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00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned this. There's so many quarterbacks on the market too.

801
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean will the will the Raiders have a fire

802
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: cell on cars. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You think

803
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: you'd fit there? He'd be good there. I think he

804
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: probably needs one of those fresh start type of things.

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00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: But does he give you is it going to be

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Speaker 1: more of the same because he's added as to this point.

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Speaker 1: It's the reason why the Raiders will probably let him

808
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: go is because he's had a disappointing career to this point. Right,

809
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: He's got him to the playoffs a couple of different times.

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00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at but yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: to me, he's He's always in that group. Remember when

812
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: people compare, whether you like it or not, that always

813
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: put him in that group with Dak Prescott, you know

814
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: that what quarterback is he eight nine, ten. You know,

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Speaker 1: they always kind of lump Derek Carr into that into

816
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: that mix. So they're going to be some quarterbacks potentially

817
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: on the market that you can go sign. But like

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Speaker 1: I say, maybe they're in a position if they're picking

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Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen where all of a sudden, Will Levis

820
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Speaker 1: comes down to them and they just draft a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's tough, sturdy. You know, I think ownership is going

822
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Speaker 1: to have a lot to say what happens here, because

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Speaker 1: this could be a completely different front office and ownership

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Speaker 1: group and direction once they once the spring meetings and

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Speaker 1: stuff start. Yeah, let's take our final break when we

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Speaker 1: come back. I want to talk a little bit real

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Speaker 1: quick before we end this show about the cornerback position

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Speaker 1: and how much now that we've seen Bland and we've

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Speaker 1: how much of a difference now is there between what

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Speaker 1: was there before and what they have now going into

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