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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Chris Raybaond and this is our twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five AFC Preview. Part two will go over to

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Speaker 1: the AFC West and the a FC North and here

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Speaker 1: to break everything down with me none other than the

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation, Stucky stuck. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Suthing? Excited to uh talk some AFC West my nemesis

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Speaker 2: chiefs as a Ravens fan, and the AFC North with

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Speaker 2: the with the Ravens, got two of the best teams

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Speaker 2: in the NFL here and then some intriguing other ones.

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Speaker 2: So uh yeah, really excited to get into both these divisions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be somewhat of a Both of these

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Speaker 1: divisions could be somewhat of a of a gauntlet. Maybe

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Speaker 1: outside of the Cleveland Browns and the in the north.

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Speaker 1: But let's and the maybe the Raiders will talk about them.

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Speaker 1: Let's start AFC West. Let's start where we always start,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. The old line is that is is

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Speaker 1: it going to be better? Is that? Because that was

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Speaker 1: the issue. They got to the Super Bowl, they got

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Speaker 1: really lucky last year. Uh, but you know they're going

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Speaker 1: said and done. So let's just start with the old

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Speaker 1: line stuff. What are you how are you feeling about? Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the rookie and and the changes on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean their offense is just deteriorated over the years,

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Speaker 2: and the big problem part of it's been the weapons.

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Speaker 2: Part of it's been the running game. I mean you

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Speaker 2: And like they they just they don't even really address it,

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Speaker 1: Gonna be the check to check over and hunt again.

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Speaker 2: So like there's just no help there. Then the weapons

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Speaker 2: haven't been great. The offensive line has been great, so

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Speaker 2: like there's been no explosiveness at all in the passing game,

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Speaker 2: and that used to be a hallmark of Mahomes. But

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Speaker 2: like go back to twenty twenty two, we averaged becas

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Speaker 2: It was one hundred seven last year. So but the

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Speaker 2: theory is they appealed that, so he would be suspended

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Speaker 2: weeks five, six, seven, and eight. Three home games in

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Speaker 2: includes the Bills, and obviously those are the two biggest

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Speaker 2: games in the schedule for one seed. So it's smart

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Speaker 2: if that's what that's what's their plan. But you know,

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Speaker 2: they weren't healthy at all. Receiver think those guys didn't

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Speaker 2: the hope is the offensive line gets fixed because they

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Speaker 2: his deficiencies, but I think it'll be better. The weapons

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Speaker 2: They only they also only have seven true road games.

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Speaker 2: has been so healthy for like five straight years. Does

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Speaker 2: I think their past rush will be better. But Jelattie,

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Speaker 2: don't love Fulton. Watson's the key. He's got to get

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Speaker 2: Probably gonna turn it on for the playoffs, probably have

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Speaker 2: some close game regression. We'll see if the defense can

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Speaker 2: stay healthy, because like I said, they've been very healthy

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Speaker 2: But I just want to see some more explosiveness from

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Speaker 2: but yeah, still one of the best teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Pretty tough schedule. But I project them eleven seven, which is, oh,

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Speaker 2: with the division is tougher like the the They're not

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Speaker 2: there's not doormats anymore in this division, and the Raiders

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I think it's it's gonna start.

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Speaker 1: It's starting to slow down a little bit. With that,

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Speaker 1: an overpriced team. Just how good they've been this entire

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Speaker 1: read Mahomes era, so at some point you would figger

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Speaker 1: Now it depends on Ravens the Bills. Maybe maybe they

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Speaker 1: the to the AFC Title Game. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: But they had no offense. But I'm saying like, because.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think he has a wide range of outcomes,

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Speaker 2: It's not like this is the team that was sitting

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Speaker 1: So but they did it. They they brought in Pat Bryant,

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Speaker 2: Are we betting them under nine and a half? Ah?

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Speaker 1: I just still quick I think it's more likely he's good.

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Speaker 2: addressed their like their skill positions, and like probably gonna

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00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: get more two tight end sets with like Disley and

433
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: maybe Gatson, but Conklin, you got mcconkeye back. But like

434
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: you added out like Keenan Allen, what's he have left?

435
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: Maybe you can hit with some of the rookies and

436
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 2: kls or Harris, but and you need Hampton to hit

437
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: it running back. And then what happens offensive line? You

438
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: lose Slater and that's massive, that's massive. Just it's I

439
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 2: think it just it crushes them because you gotta now

440
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: you're gonna move all to left tackle. You added becked

441
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: in Johnson and Bozman. It looks like they were thinking

442
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: about flopping them. I don't think they are. Think it's

443
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: gonna be Bozeman at center that they're okay, So like

444
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: the interior is okay, but now you're right tackle, because

445
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Pipkins. They were gonna cut them two

446
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: weeks ago for salary. And now who's your swing tackle,

447
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: Like I think it's the rookie tailor who they were

448
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: gonna play at guard. So like if Pipkins is so

449
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: bad or someone gets hurt, like I think their swing

450
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: tackle might be that kid tailor out of pit. It

451
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: was the sixth rounder. They were gonna play at guard

452
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: and then Pipkins is gonna be your starting right tackle

453
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: and they were gonna cut a week ago. So yeah,

454
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: the defensive line and lost Bosa Ford Fox. Like they

455
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: weren't great against the run, they weren't great at getting pressure.

456
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: It's just a really good, well schemed defense. I'm not

457
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: sure that they can reach that same level that they

458
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: did last year. And I think the offense could take

459
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 2: a step back because of the offensive line. And then

460
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: I look at their schedule, it's gonna get tougher. I

461
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: think they go from like one of the five easiest

462
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: to a slightly above average schedule now. And I just

463
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: look at their home games. So number one, they don't

464
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: have much of a home field advantage, and like unlike

465
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: most teams, you're like, oh, we get some home games

466
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: we can win. They lose one division home game against

467
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to Brazil, and the rest of their home

468
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: games are the Broncos, Raiders and the Raiders. But they

469
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: could be better. Washington, Minnesota, Hit Philly, Houston, Indianapolis, Like

470
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: the Colts are the one that you're like, Okay, so good.

471
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 2: That's a tough homeschedu where you basically don't have any

472
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: home field advantage and a lot of those fan bases

473
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: that I just mentioned will travel as well, so that

474
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: doesn't help them. Uh So, yeah, I don't see it

475
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: with the Chargers this year. I'm out.

476
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a low floor team and

477
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: if I agree, I like they're under. I think the

478
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: win total under. I think this is one of the

479
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: It's just one of the ways that you have to

480
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: find edges in the futures market. Offensive line and depth,

481
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: I think are just those are the things that are

482
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: kind of hidden beyond the surface. You know, people are

483
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: gonna loo at the quarterback and coach and you know

484
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 1: what they did last year and all that stuff. But

485
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: when you look at their offensive line, like you said,

486
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: they lost a great tackle that shuffles everything up. They're

487
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: skill guys, they added guys, yet they still might not

488
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: be better because you know, only so many guys can

489
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: play at one time. They have a bunch of still

490
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: mid tight ends. I think, I mean, Gaston might just

491
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: get the stone smart role, Like I don't know if

492
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: he's truly gonna get uh, you know, enough snaps early

493
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: on and then you have like JK. Dobbins played really

494
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 1: well last year. You know, could so like Marion Hampton,

495
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: Naji Harris, that combination, if Harris he was even a

496
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: part of it. Their run game is really important. But

497
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily a massive upgrade either because Dobbins played

498
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: so well, and maybe Harris, I mean he's kind of

499
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: you could be just like another guy Edwards.

500
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have the dorade the running round, right.

501
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could exactly. So, Uh, I think this they're

502
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: kind of on a slippery slope. But at the same time,

503
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: I do like KOs. I do think Harris was a

504
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: good a good would pick ultimately, but it's kind of

505
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: the way they were using them in camp kind of

506
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: was questionable. I just I'm surprised they're still behind Quentin

507
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: Johnson this much at receiver, so like they were treating him,

508
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, they arrested him, treat the manet true starter

509
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: and then I know he got hurt. But we'll see,

510
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: soll see what happens. But just some things offensively, I

511
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: still don't know if they'll be tangibly improved enough, and

512
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: then they're set up to collapse down stretched. So uh,

513
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: this is a team where they could. They can start well,

514
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: but you look at their last five games Philadelphia, at Casey,

515
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: at Dallas, Houston, and at Denver like they are, they

516
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: could start, they could exceed expectations and then still fall

517
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: short of nine and a half wins. And I think

518
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: Denver's I think Denver's Betty can better. Kansas City is

519
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and the Raiders are gonna be better. Let's

520
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: talk about them. You know, Pete Carroll, Chip, Kelly, Gino Smith,

521
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: Ashton genty Deyontay Thornton at wide receiver, Besh has been

522
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: I guess kind of a just but you got Rock

523
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Bowers there. The line I think can be decent and

524
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: it just matter the defense. Yeah, but so what do

525
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: you think is there? I guess, like what is their ceiling?

526
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: Because the defense is always going to be a question mark.

527
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: I think the offense can could be at least average,

528
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: if not better than average. I think the offense might

529
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: be able to underrat it by the market. Actually, yeah,

530
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: written in circled underrated offense on my notes. Yep ye.

531
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: If the offensive line stays healthy, there's a ton of

532
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: potential there. I mean, Miller's good at left tackle. You

533
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: got parm and left guard. It looks like Meredith's going

534
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: to start at center. Cowards Johnson at right guard. I

535
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna get the center spot, but it

536
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: looks like now and then Glaze at right tackles who's

537
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: shown some promise in last year? They were they they

538
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: played James at center was bad. Mumford and white Hair

539
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: were getting starts made. They were all awful. This five,

540
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: this starting five has a ton of potential and last

541
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: year like who is running the ball? Now you got

542
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: gent running the ball. Offensive line, You upgraded a quarterback

543
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: with Gina Smith. Oh, by the way, Gina Smith gets

544
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: to play indoors where he's much better in that dome.

545
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: And I think your weapons are fine, like yeah, Myers,

546
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: Tucker Thornton, and then you're you're gonna throw a lot

547
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: to your tight ends. That's your the best tight end

548
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: in the NFL and Bowers and also tight end depth there.

549
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: So I think the offense, Chip Kelly comes in as

550
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: new offense coordinator. I think the offense, as long as

551
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: defensive line stays healthy, can be above average. Defensively, it

552
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: sucks that Wilkins, that the Wilkins stuff hapen because there

553
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: the defensive tackles are very weak. Their defensive ends could

554
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: be good with Crosby and get Coon's back. Wilson has

555
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: looked better of late, but the defensive tackle room is

556
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: very weak. They overhauled their linebacker room and the defensive backfield.

557
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: Linebacker like you got some veterans in there, but like

558
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: White is bad, Pratt is bad. Roberts is a good,

559
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: good run defender, but like the defensive tackles and linebackers,

560
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: they don't inspire a ton of confidence. And then in

561
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: the secondary, ah man, I mean a nickel. It's looks

562
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: like it's homes He's bad. You're gonna are They're gonna

563
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: start Stokes, he's awful. They replaced Moregg with Chin. That's

564
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: a wash. Paulam Mal's back, but he was bad last year.

565
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: They like his trajectory. We'll see if he can improve.

566
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: But like they're talking about, who's that Kyle Blue Kelly

567
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: might get this corner spot. They need Darien Porter, who's

568
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: like your prototypical He's tall, like looks like a Pete

569
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: Carroll corner they needed to hit. But like he's was

570
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: a sixty eighth pick. He played one year at corner

571
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: at Iowa. State. He was a receiver for three years

572
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: before then, and that's like, you want to be your

573
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: best corner this year. So I think it's a good

574
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: marriage with Carol. They kept Patrick Grant, who we both like.

575
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it was amazing when he did last year.

576
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: They had so many injuries. They were second most injured

577
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: team on defense. They also had a minus sixteen turnover

578
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: margin with a awful offense, and they finished eighteenth DVOA

579
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: on defense.

580
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Finally, finally they're not in the bottom half of the league. Yeah,

581
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: because that it was. It's been a minute.

582
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the hope for this team, like they just

583
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: need some of these guys in the secondary to hit.

584
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: By the way, Carol is like, he's very good to

585
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: bet they over. I show value in the over. Obviously,

586
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 2: I show value the under on the Chargers and Broncos

587
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: and slightly the Chiefs. So I do show value in

588
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: the over and the Raiders. I think they're underrated. The

589
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: hope here is I had awful turnover luck last year,

590
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: like one of the lowest, the worst fumble recovery percentages

591
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: you'll ever see, like like twenty three percent. They were hurt.

592
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: Turnovers are bad. Their their offensive line was hurt. They

593
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: had no running game, quarterback play was bad. A lot

594
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: of that is fixed. And here's the thing. The hope,

595
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: here's the hope for them, because you know what Graham's

596
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: gonna do is he's going to play very conservatively on

597
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: the back end with what he has. That's what he's

598
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: been doing. They're gonna they're they're gonna go all out

599
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: trying to prevent explosives and then make you drive the

600
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: field and then try to get sacks with their d

601
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: line or get turnovers which they're overdue for. So like

602
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: that's the whole prevent explosives, get those sacks, get that

603
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: overdue turnament regression, and then the offense I think can

604
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: hang with most teams. So that's the goal. I think

605
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: their ceiling is like a wild card. It's a very

606
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: tough division though, and you're in the AFC. That's the ceiling.

607
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: I do show guy in the over. I think I'll

608
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: probably get there over six and a half. I kind

609
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: of just want to see how the secondary plays out.

610
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, it sucks they lost Wilkins, like because then

611
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: their defensive line would have been very special. Now defensive

612
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: tackles really weak. So the Runde might take a hit,

613
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, Pete Carroll historically been very good over bet

614
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: I show some guy in the over. I think I'll

615
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: probably be betting this team a lot this year.

616
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this team is a team that you

617
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: want to bet week to week. I think they'll be

618
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: underrated on the points spread because again, I think their

619
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: offense is underrated. You know, if you kind of look

620
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: at the look ahead lines and uh back out into

621
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: their projected points, they're they're near the bottom of the league,

622
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: and I think they're right around twenty per game or

623
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: something like that. And I think that's selling them short.

624
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: With the with Bowers, with Buyers, you know, they got Thornton,

625
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, being ahead of schedule and

626
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: giving them like a guy who who can at least

627
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: just go deep and and uh take a take a

628
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: take a defender out of the picture is big when

629
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: you have like a Bowers, a mayor a gent A Myers.

630
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: So I think their offense will be better than uh

631
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: then the markets rating them, and so I think they'll

632
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: be undervalied on the spread. However, what I think the

633
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: reason it's a little shaker when it comes to the

634
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: win total, which is why it is where it is

635
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: is because the schedule is still like if they don't

636
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: if they don't hit the layups, you know, I'm you know,

637
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Cleveland. You have to even put Tennessee

638
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: in there, which I think I don't. I don't think

639
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders and Titans there's much difference in quality wise

640
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: between those two teams. I think the Raiders are better,

641
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: but I mean you still got a tough schedule at

642
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: New England.

643
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: You have Chargers with the Chiefs, Broncos and Chargers.

644
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and then just I mean just but you

645
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: still got like at New England, at Washington, Uh, you

646
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: play the coach, but you're going, you know, to Indianapolis

647
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: and then you play you play the Jags at home,

648
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: but we think they could be better. So you gotta

649
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: you gotta beat Cleveland at home, and then you gotta

650
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: beat the Giants at home. Lait in the year. If

651
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: you can hit your way ups, you probably even then.

652
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough. I mean you're surrounding those games,

653
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, Eagle at the Eagles. Uh, you know, it's

654
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: just it's not an easy schedule. At Houston, they play

655
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: all the toughest teams in the a f C. SO

656
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: and Dallas could be better. It's so I think it's

657
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: gonna be but yeah, let's go, let's go. What you got?

658
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: What's that's yeah?

659
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 1: No, let's go, let's go there.

660
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: What you got?

661
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: What's the reason?

662
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean I'm I'm gonna beat that in

663
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: the under on the Raiders, And no, I was just

664
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: saying I grew that there's a reason. Oh, but I'm

665
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: saying I'm gonna I'm gonna have under on Broncos and Chargers.

666
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: So in a way, yeah, that is correlated with my

667
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: thoughts that the Raiders are gonna be better. So I

668
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: have some exposure on the Raiders, all right, I need

669
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: the Raiders to take care of business against those teams

670
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: at least one.

671
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Honestly, if you're if you're if you're low on both

672
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: of those teams, I would just go ahead and bet

673
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: the Raiders over because at that point, if you're thinking

674
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: they can go you know, split or go three and

675
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: one against those teams, and then and you have Giants

676
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: at home, uh Browns, you know, and and tight and

677
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: you have Titans at home, I think you probably get there.

678
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: But it's like for me, I still think the Broncos

679
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: are gonna be two losses and the Chargers, I mean,

680
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: it could go either way, but I think they're more

681
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: like a five hundred team. But I agree, I think

682
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are gonna be undervalued week to

683
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: week on the points spread because I think their offense

684
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be under unless they well, no, they're not

685
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna see. So they start the year at New England

686
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: and then they go home to face the Chargers. Two

687
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: could be solid defenses, should be solid defenses, but they

688
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: got the low floor. So I wonder how fast the

689
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: market adjusts.

690
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Like, you know what, everyone loves the Patriots say the playoffs?

691
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: The Patriots are that as if we're talking right now,

692
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: two and a half points favors at home against the Raiders.

693
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a tough one. Would you so you're

694
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: saying you about the Raiders in that situation if you

695
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: have to, I need, I would still a beout the

696
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Patriots that two and a half. But at at three

697
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: it just becomes.

698
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: It got I think it went down too.

699
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: And I think that yeah, because I think three is

700
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: about the is about the right line. Just considering I

701
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: think both of these teams there's a lot of newness

702
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: in in a way, but the fact that the Raiders

703
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: did retain Graham. I think the biggest uh kind of

704
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: calls for concern with the Raiders overall would be that

705
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: this is like an older coaching staff, you know, Kelly

706
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Carol Graham. You know, do they do they have enough

707
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: to you know, you maximize this talent.

708
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: I project two two, So if I got three, I

709
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: might take it three and a half one. But yeah, projected,

710
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: So if you.

711
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: Don't have much difference between the great Patriots of Raiders

712
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: at all, then power rated? What's that you don't have

713
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: much of a power rating difference between the Patriots and

714
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: Raiders at all. No, essentially what you're saying.

715
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I am a point yeah, I project

716
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: And the only reason that so like I project the

717
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: Raiders to win seven, the Paths to win eight, because

718
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: the Patriots got schedule with so much in a much

719
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: easier division. But yeah, less than a point yeah difference.

720
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: It's which is ultimate the Patriots doctor, you know?

721
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, close. I'm a little higher than the market than

722
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: the Raiders, and I think the market is a little

723
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: too high on the Patriots. But if I get a

724
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: three I might take it, but we'll see. I got

725
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: to see all the secretary comes together.

726
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: So so, but you do like the Raiders over six

727
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: and a half.

728
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I checked a little chat over seven.

729
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think for me it's I think the bet

730
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: in the division that stands out to me the most

731
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: is the Chargers under nine and a half because I

732
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: think that's I think if the Raiders get there, I

733
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: think it's more likely to be at the Chargers expense.

734
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: I think the Broncos are set up, set up better

735
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: uh than the Chargers to withstand the kind of things

736
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: that have been happening to the Chargers unfortunately. Yep, all right,

737
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,279
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Speaker 1: let's jump over to the North stuck. Start with the

754
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Lamar Jackson one of the best passing seasons

755
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: ever in the NFL, and they find a way to

756
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: fall short in the playoffs yet again. But mean small sample.

757
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson still excellent, this team, roster building excellent. Eleven

758
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: and a half is the win total? What do you

759
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: think about that? And just the kind of trajectory of

760
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: this is of this team. Do they get the hump finally?

761
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: I Mean, the thing is people want to like the

762
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: mar Jackson has to be better in the playoffs, but

763
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: like it's such a small sample, and like the ring

764
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: this when the Ravens won the Super Bowl twenty twelve

765
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: with Flacco, that was their worst team over like the

766
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: stretch of like six years their defense was all old

767
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: and washed, and Flacco just got in. He got hot,

768
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: and they beat Luck Brady Manning and then Kaeperdick and

769
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: the Niners. Like there's a lot of luck in the NFL.

770
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: And the Chiefs are really good. The Bills are really good.

771
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, it sucks because the last two years I

772
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: had them powered to number one the end of the

773
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: year and they didn't even get to a super Bowl.

774
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: And it's funny and in the division, the only quarterback,

775
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: the only starting quarterback in NFC North that has not

776
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: gone to a super Bowl is Lamar Jackson.

777
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: That's nuts, isn't it?

778
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 2: So Yeah, I mean their offense was awesome last year.

779
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: What else can you say? And they faced the hardest

780
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: schedule of opposing defenses and their offenses that elite. What

781
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: is what am I worried about this year? Number one?

782
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: By the way, if you look at DVA, they were

783
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: the last two years, they were the fifth and seventh

784
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: best team of all time and they didn't even get

785
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: to a super Bowl. Yeah, they went twelve and five

786
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: last year. They should have went twelve five. They can

787
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 2: they win some close games? Can they get some takeaways?

788
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: I'd like to see that, like that's that's kind of

789
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: been the missing pieces. The penalties, they were unlucky there,

790
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: there could be some aggression, like if you just look

791
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: at like subjective penalties, they were pretty unlucky. Their special

792
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: teams also, the first time they were outside the top

793
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: ten since twenty eleven. They dropped off there a bit.

794
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: They were like a bottom ten special teams unit. New

795
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: kicker like wester Western is electric re turner like him

796
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: a lot. So we'll see out with a new kicker

797
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: does in Baltimore. But the offense. The only thing I'm

798
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: worried about the offense and the team in general because

799
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: I still have empowered to one is health. They were

800
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: number one in adjust the games loss on offense and

801
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: defense last year. So is there injury regression. I'm already

802
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: seeing that. Isaiah likely when's he gonna be ready? We'll

803
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 2: see because I worry about the health of the team

804
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: a lot. Like a lot keeps me up at night,

805
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: even though I'm not. I don't sleep. They would keep

806
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: me up at night if I did at this point

807
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: in the season. But what I worry about offense, the

808
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: guards maybe like you've lost McCary, So I'll watch the guards,

809
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: but like, as long as they're healthy, this offense is

810
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: by the best in the NFL. Like, there's not much

811
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: to nitpick. Yeah, they added Hopkins has probably washed, but

812
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: like who cares, They've run a lot. As long as

813
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Likely and Andrews are healthy, like they they're gonna you

814
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: got Mitchell too, could contribute.

815
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: Western Walker's year, like they could they get they could

816
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: have somebody step run.

817
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: Like more shoot tight ends and six offensive linemen. They

818
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: they don't use a ton of free wide receivers, so

819
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: like who cares? So yeah, I want to watch just

820
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: the health of the offensive line. Warhees at left guard.

821
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: But the offense can be really good. Defense they should

822
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: be really good. They turned it on last year and

823
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: they made some changes pretty much about week eleven. They

824
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: were really bad past events. They were number one pretty

825
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: much the rest of the way. What they did is

826
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: they we talked about the sat and Aussea on this

827
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: podcast last year, but they moved Humphrey to slot. They

828
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: moved Hamilton back to deep safety, communication changes. Washington went

829
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: in at safety, They got Marcus Williams out of the lineup,

830
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: and everything changed. Well, Washington is out for the year,

831
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: which is a big loss. Not enough people a talking

832
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: about they need starks to hit at safety and they

833
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: need starks getting back to health. They need starks Humphrey

834
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: and Hamilton to stay healthy. The depth of safety is bad,

835
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: so they can have a stafe. They need starks to

836
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: hit and they they need them to stay healthy outside

837
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: corner I like, but like will Alexander, Like, he's already

838
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: now hurt already, So is that what we're gonna be

839
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: doing all year? If he's healthy, if the whole secondary

840
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: is healthy, it's just like all first round picks this

841
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: entire Like it would be so nasty. But how much

842
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: can you count on, uh, Alexander? Probably not much. Like

843
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: my hope for the Ravens is that who cares play

844
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: play seven games and then be healthy for the playoffs

845
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 2: is when you get healthy Alexander. But that cornerback two spot,

846
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: maybe it's Kaboozie, would be fine, But like, the depth

847
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 2: overall at safety specifically is a little questionable. They're gonna

848
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: run a ton of like because you need d backs.

849
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: They're gonna we're gonna rush for a lot of disguise

850
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: simulation light boxes. He's a lot of five and six

851
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: defensive backs, so injuries are just huge for this this

852
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: unit in particular. But I like Wiggins, I like Starks,

853
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: but I need to see it. Linebackers, man, but you're like,

854
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Rope just broke one out there most

855
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: of the time. Defensive line. I like the additional Mike Green.

856
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: I think that he's just was a steal. I think

857
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: they the draft was excellent again, So yeah, defense, just

858
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: stay healthy. I want to watch some of the the

859
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: second of disitions. They got to stay healthy in the

860
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: secondary watching Starks, what will Alexander give them? Will he

861
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: stay healthy? Because if he's like healthy and they're there,

862
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: you're not gonna able to throw on this team if

863
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: their entire secondary is healthy and the rundy is gonna

864
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: be good. So like and they can do that with

865
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: a light box like that. Yeah, this this is the

866
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: best team in NFL M my opinion. It's got to

867
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: stay healthy. And there are some questions, as there are

868
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: without every team. I you look at their schedule, it's

869
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: it's tough early five of the first six versus playoff

870
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: teams before thereby, and then this schedule really lightens up.

871
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: The hope is like that they'll be healthy going into

872
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: the season. Then you can deal with some maybe overdue

873
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: injuries when their schedule eases up, because like at Buffalo,

874
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: huge game right off the bat, like will likely play,

875
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: will they be healthy everywhere? And then they're obviously at

876
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: KC too, so at Buffalo at case, those are your

877
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: two potential tiebreaker games. You gotta go on the road

878
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: for both. Not going to be easy, but uh yeah,

879
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna be one of the best teams in the NFL.

880
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: I project them eleven to seven, so I'm right on

881
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: market watching health that's the biggest thing, and then a

882
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: couple of guys in the secondary how that plays out.

883
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean we're nitpicking here. It's just one

884
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: of the best teams the NFL, probably in the mix,

885
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: like the Floor, I got nine to ten wins if

886
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: it's not a disastrous injury situation.

887
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta have a super Bowl ticket on them.

888
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: I think this is another team you want. You want

889
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: that super Bowl ticket, you want that, you want that

890
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: upside with this team. I don't necessarily love the AFC North, uh,

891
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: just only because I think the Bengals could bounce back.

892
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's some uncertainty. They're probably not but

893
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: I think there's that used the chance and then the

894
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: Steelers always find a way to be around with So

895
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: if the the Ravens have injury issues, I don't want

896
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: to weigh minus one seven. It's not a terrible price,

897
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: but I think I still want the upside with this team.

898
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: I just think of Lamar Jackson is so good. And

899
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: we talked about depth. I think depth on the market.

900
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: They have a lot of Mary's where I'm worried about

901
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: the depth, but I mean I think it's I think

902
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: it's actually solid. I mean, I know, I know Washington

903
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: laid down, but these.

904
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: If Starks doesn't hit or like Hamilton, it's hurt, you're

905
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: talking about very enormous.

906
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, you know they'd signed somebody some old,

907
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: somebody old, like some guys that was nice in like

908
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: two thousand, but like.

909
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: The Marcus was was a disaster by the way that

910
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, the Raiders should sign like a that corner

911
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: or something seriously going back to them, but.

912
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, they're a very deep team overall. But yeah,

913
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: I think a little deeper than they've been in past years.

914
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: So but but Lamar just gives them such a such

915
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: a floor ceiling nowadays. Yeah, I mean, I think they

916
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: underperformed for how good he played last year.

917
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, more than seven in like three years.

918
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're gonna be there there. It's just Buffalo has

919
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: an easier schedule by way of playing in the AFC East,

920
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: and I think Buffalo is a better bet for the

921
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: number one seed. The Ravens, you know, they gotta they

922
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: gotta deal with Pittsburgh twice a year, and you know

923
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's offense, and but uh, team wise, I do think

924
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: they are they are better than the Bills.

925
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would like for that Week one.

926
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: I would like for I think it is actually critical

927
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: if like likely plays or not, because where can you

928
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: attack the Bills Like I had all the likely props

929
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: in that game last year. Yeah, you could just attack

930
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: the Bills safety's middle of the field. So I think

931
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: it's I think that's worth monitoring. I's likely he's back

932
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: in time for that game specifically, which could decide like

933
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: the tiebreaker and the one.

934
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be ridiculous, But I like I

935
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: like the way, you know, I mean they they also

936
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: face the Lions in Week three, and I know we're

937
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: kind of down on the lines we'll talk about that

938
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: in our NFC pod, but just a lot of and

939
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: then they face Houston in Week five, which is another

940
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: one of those teams in the AFC thought to be

941
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: in that second tier. So they face a lot of

942
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: good teams early on. If they can get through those,

943
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, even with a winning record. I mean, this

944
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: team's off to the races, so.

945
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: Golf in Baltimore, that'll be yeah.

946
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: True, I'm still still an interesting game though. Uh all right,

947
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: let's go to the Bengals. And the Bengals, I mean,

948
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: is it worth spending time on this team?

949
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: What we know?

950
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: The defense, the bat Yeah, I mean they're nine and

951
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: a half off.

952
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: They're just running it back on offense. They paid all

953
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: their guys. They're gonna have new guards. They be a

954
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: little better.

955
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: So Tinsley, baby, Mitchell, Tinsley.

956
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: Tinsley, Yeah, Davis, they should have not signed Higgins there,

957
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: Tinsley and then get someone on Dperiously. Yeah, Bolston and

958
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: Kapa were terrible at guard last year, so you could

959
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: have two rookies starting. So maybe it's worse, but there's

960
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: probably more upside now with Rivers and Fairchild. They added

961
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: Patrick too, but he's hurt right now. So, I mean,

962
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: the offense is gonna be a great as long as

963
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: they say healthy, it's the defense. Like the defense was

964
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: so bad last year and they played an easy schedule

965
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: and it was that bad, and like they might lose

966
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: the only two players who were good on that D

967
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: last year Hilton was good in nickel and Hendrickson had

968
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: what are the seventeen and a half eight sacks? The

969
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: rest of the team had like eighteen carried. What's going

970
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: on with Hendrickson? They they cannot draft on the defense,

971
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: they can't hit, and I don't like there's draft this

972
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: year either, So like all that adds up, Like look

973
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: at all the busts that they have that they now

974
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 2: need to count on. And if Hendrickson's not there, like

975
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: maybe the hope is you bring it al Golden. You're

976
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: probably gonna have more like four three base less d

977
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: backs on the field more man, can you do that with?

978
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, can Cam Taylor Bread regain form? Can DJ

979
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: Turner be a good corner? Hill probably move in the nickel?

980
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: Can these guys be the guys? The personnel in this

981
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: D is so bad because they haven't been able to

982
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: draft how to pay their offensive guys. And if you

983
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: don't have Hendrickson, who sounds like is gonna get traded,

984
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: it's bad. So what does that mean? This team could

985
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: beat anyone any Sunday. They also could lose anybody, and hopefully,

986
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: if you're a Bengals fanner, you bet the over. They

987
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: don't start out bad. They host the Jags and they're

988
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: at the Browns. They start off out every year and

989
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: it cost them, could cost them win total, could cost

990
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: some playoffs. But Taylor's one and eleven in his first

991
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: two games in Cincinnati. Yeah, so what does that mean?

992
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna be able to score on anybody if they're healthy.

993
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: I don't even know what Golden can do. They're not

994
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: gonna stop anybody me watching them in the preseason when

995
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: is vomit inducing? When their first team's out there? So

996
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: what does that mean? They're gonna be in a ton

997
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: of shootouts and a ton of one possession games, and

998
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: there's just a ton of variant. There's gonna be a

999
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: ton of coin flips. And do they are they They

1000
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: have a good year in one session games, they have

1001
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: a bad year hot turnovers. How does the ball bounce

1002
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: for them? Is the special teams? Is it bounce back

1003
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: this year? Kicker? So I don't know. There's got a

1004
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: ton of coin flips. So like the win total for

1005
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: me at what is it at nine and a half? Yeah,

1006
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 2: like feels right like their offense gives them a high floor.

1007
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean I project them nine to two, so I

1008
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: can't go over. I don't want to bet against them.

1009
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to bet on them. I don't think

1010
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: they have the defense that can get them through the

1011
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: AFC and win a Super Bowl. I think they're too

1012
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: far away. You gotta remember when they got the Super Bowl,

1013
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: they had a top ten defense that year. This is

1014
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: the bottom five defense. I don't even I don't see

1015
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: how it could. Defenses are very we always I talk

1016
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: about this on both ends. Defenses are very inconsistent year

1017
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: to year. So they could improve, Like can they be average?

1018
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: That's all they need to be. I just don't see

1019
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: the path. And if you don't have Hendrickson, and what

1020
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: is the path that this defense, Like everyone has career years,

1021
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1022
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: So it just because one it would just be one

1023
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: of those defenses like kind of like the Chargers where

1024
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: it's just well schemed and uh, they kind of get

1025
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: by and beat you know, like their offensesives play.

1026
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's something about golden plate like so I

1027
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: don't know. So they Yeah, they could beat anyone in

1028
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: any day, and they could lose anybody and a ton

1029
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: of coin flips. Their offensive be elite, defensive be bad

1030
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: most likely, and we'll see how many of the close

1031
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 2: games they win and if they can actually get off

1032
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 2: to a good start, that's their season. Schedule gets much harder.

1033
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: Bottom five last year, top ten this year.

1034
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they know it's gonna happen, right, They're gonna

1035
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: be Their win total is gonna come down to the

1036
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: last three games where they're probably in their playoff hopes

1037
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: probably too. They're gonna be desperate. They'll probably be like,

1038
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: what would that be, like seven and seven and seven

1039
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: or something like that. And then at Miami Arizona home

1040
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: for Arizona home for Cleveland, they'll have to they'll have

1041
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: to go three and oh everyone will think they'll do it,

1042
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: and they'll probably go like one and two and something

1043
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: silly like that.

1044
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: But and they'll probably lose to the Browns week one.

1045
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: Like that's the type of game that a team of

1046
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: a horrendous defense in Division on the road Week one,

1047
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: especially the Bengals. But at least Burrows like healthy now

1048
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: to start the year. He never is usually I mean oh.

1049
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: Barely barely because he saw you see how many times

1050
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: he gets sacked.

1051
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the wind totals right, Yeah, I think

1052
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: it's right.

1053
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: I think the the best bet for the Bengals is

1054
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: either a long shot Super Bowl, you know AFC, or

1055
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: take a shot on them at the division. They are

1056
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: plus two eighty. Again, the Ravens are clearly the best team.

1057
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: But we know the Rave What the Ravens do the Steelers,

1058
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: let's talk about them.

1059
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what the Ravens Bengals total is

1060
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: going to be seventy.

1061
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: Right, I mean it depends how many raven uh like,

1062
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: how many people on the secondary for the Ravens are out,

1063
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: which you know is gonna be high. But the Steelers

1064
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You know, Caleb Johnson is playing with the

1065
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: third string, so that that's weird. And then you know

1066
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: they got Aaron Rodgers. But the defense always tends to

1067
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: be good. But I mean I think are they a

1068
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: floor team or steeling? Like this is gonna be the

1069
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: year they finally go under that Tomlin winning five hundred,

1070
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: or are they just gonna be the same kind of

1071
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: team where they're gonna be an annoying, you know, nine

1072
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: to ten win team and flame out in the first round.

1073
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: I project that updated eight two not enough to go under.

1074
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 2: Thank god. I don't want to deal with going against

1075
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: the Tomlin who.

1076
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: Yeaht was eight and a half, like even money pretty

1077
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: much both both confessions.

1078
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: The like what's probably gonna happen is what happens every year.

1079
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: They'll start off and then fade. I mean, their schedule

1080
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: the first six, the quarterbacks they face in the first

1081
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: six games, their fields, Donald May, McCarthy and Placo. Then

1082
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: the schedule gets brutal. They're one possession merchants, but they've

1083
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: been that every year. Turnovers the plus forty two the

1084
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: last five years plus sixteen last year. Only team that's

1085
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: had a positive turnover margin the least seven years. I

1086
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: don't know how they do it, but they do. They

1087
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: always force turnovers and key ways. Can Boswell be the

1088
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: best kicker in the NFL still? I mean he's thirty

1089
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: four now. He was unbelievable last year. That helped him

1090
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: in close games and the way that they play, but

1091
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: Tucker had his drop off at thirty four. That's what

1092
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: Boswell is now. They need him to be good defense,

1093
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: Like the front seven is gonna be really good. Even

1094
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: though I would not have paid what what they gave him,

1095
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: but you kind of had to. You got Thornhill for Fitzpatrick.

1096
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of a wash. It's a little bit of

1097
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: a downgrade, but I think Fitzpatrick was on the way down.

1098
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: You had Ramsey. It's weird because Ramsey's probably gonna play Nickel,

1099
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: but like I thought, they liked Bishop and I thought

1100
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: he was showed some good things, but he might get cut.

1101
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: Like they're running Echoless the backup Nickel.

1102
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: That's probably a good thing because their secondary was shaky

1103
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: and they have I mean Thornhill slay order.

1104
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: It's an aging d overall, but their defense should be solid.

1105
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: I think their offense it's just all like flip Metcalf

1106
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: flop pickings for Metcal. I think that's an upgrade just

1107
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: locker room alone. You had john Nehus Smith. It's Arthur Smith.

1108
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: You had a probably give me a lot of two

1109
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: tight ends stuff. It's all about the offensive line development

1110
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: and then what Rogers is and what does he have

1111
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: left was last year more of just his age, partly

1112
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: how much or how much was an injury, But you know,

1113
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: you get Feltano back from injury, Jones moves to left tackle.

1114
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: They've been investing draft picks in the offensive line. Can

1115
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: that offensive line take that next step? And then what

1116
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: does Rogers have left? But I don't know me. They're

1117
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 2: probably gonna voo their way. They're gonna steal a couple

1118
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: of games. They're gonna win the turn of a battle.

1119
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna be good in one possession games. Boswell, if

1120
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: he's as good like, they'll help him win those close games.

1121
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: And they're probably gonna finish nine and eight.

1122
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Pittsburgh is still annoyingly better than the

1123
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: market thinks they're going to be. I would go over

1124
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: there win total. Now that I'm looking at their schedule,

1125
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: they do have some they have some tough spots. I

1126
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: mean they go to Buffalo, at Baltimore and at Detroit

1127
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: and then they finish up with Baltimore. But that's Week eighteen,

1128
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: so they might get a break there. But I think

1129
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph with this squad can probably still still win

1130
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: games for them like the de as long as the

1131
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: defense stays healthy and that's the big key because the

1132
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: offense it's just kind of the same offense. You know,

1133
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: they just replaced Naji Harris with Johnson, and they replaced

1134
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: Metcalf Pickins with metcalfs And I mean, I guess you

1135
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: could say, yeah, the John Who, John Who could be

1136
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: an ex factor. He's healthy because he is hurt right now.

1137
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: But he because Arthur Smith does get a lot out

1138
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: of him, and he seems like Arthur Smith. They were

1139
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: really aggressive targeting john Who, which little head scratching just

1140
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: because I feel like they could have used the wide

1141
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: receiver probably, but you know they have if Roland or

1142
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: anything or is he Yeah, yeah, because because Austin we've

1143
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: got better as the year progressed too. But now he's hurt.

1144
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: Uh So there's some, there's some, it's not a lot.

1145
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: Like I still think they're kind of a cap ceiling team.

1146
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they get I don't think they're get

1147
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: to the chance to play for, you know, the conference

1148
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: title of the Super Bowl. But I think they get

1149
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: over that eight and a half win total, whether it's

1150
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: Rogers or you know, they end up having to go

1151
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: to a vet in with that defense I mean Rogers.

1152
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Rodgers is that is good enough to

1153
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: for him him being potentially let's say he misses a

1154
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: lot of games or he he's like even more of

1155
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: a shell of himself than he was last year. I

1156
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: don't think his level of play is high enough for

1157
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: that to be a big downgrade. If they have to

1158
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: ultimately change quarterbacks or whatever. Not, it's about the defense

1159
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: in Tomlin. So yeah, I think I think they go

1160
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: over to WINSLDAL, but don't want anything to do with

1161
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: them once they actually get to the playoffs Cleveland more pain.

1162
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: They're going back to the Stefanski offense they have they

1163
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: have I don't know, they have four quarterbacks, so they

1164
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: have no quarterbacks and was gonna start by the way, Yeah, no,

1165
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: I mean it was. I still think it was a good,

1166
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: good bet to fade. I mean, there's four quarterbacks on

1167
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: the roster, and everyone was hurt, Like everyone got hurt

1168
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: in the preseason except Flacco, the oldest guy. But their

1169
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: winter is five and a half. You see some four

1170
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: and a half juiced up at some spots. Thoughts on

1171
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: the Browns prospects for twenty twenty five with this quarterback situation.

1172
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: I think they're better than the market thinks. I show

1173
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: value in their wind total over I project them to

1174
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: win a hair under six games. But do I want

1175
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: to bet I have five point eight? That's what I

1176
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: project them at. Do I want to bet they're over?

1177
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: Probably not, because for one, that's assuming like I'm assuming

1178
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 2: Flacco and Ah that they don't just go to the rookies,

1179
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: which is probably.

1180
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna start a quarterback way.

1181
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 2: So what they start off with Cincy at Baltimore, Green

1182
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: Bay at Detroit Minnesota overseas and it's their second straight

1183
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: game overseas home the next week at pitt without a break.

1184
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: That can you get any harder? First six games? So

1185
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: they're own six h Then what they're just gonna go

1186
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: to Sanders and Gabriel and who knows who you're gonna

1187
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 2: get so like and this team could quit and who knows.

1188
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: So I probably I don't know. I show by in

1189
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: the over but I don't think I can get there,

1190
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: do you off? It's the line of his potential if

1191
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: they're healthy, which is a major question that's with a

1192
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: lot of guys. Uh, the weapons are bad. It's like

1193
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: it's how many times can you throw to Judy? Now

1194
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: they're going back to the old it's the fancy off.

1195
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: It's gonna be more two tight end sets. I love Fannin.

1196
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet like Fannin for fun anytime touchdown every week,

1197
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: Week one scoring against the Bengals by the way. But like,

1198
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: so they were gonna go to they want to be

1199
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: like more run heavy, but Judkins is probably not going

1200
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: to play for them, so like that hurts.

1201
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think he's still not gonna play

1202
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: at all?

1203
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, not. They're they're looking to at a

1204
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: running back, is what I'm hearing. So that's doesn't like

1205
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: they're in the market now from guys I know from

1206
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: close to the Browns, that's not a good tell that

1207
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: they're trying to trade for a running back, like they're

1208
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: looking at Washington and with Robinson or elsewhere.

1209
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: That is odd considering they all they doubled up, But

1210
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: like why is it Sam and they have a holdover

1211
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: and Ford and they have Samson, So it's like asking

1212
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: why why are they looking for running backs? Still?

1213
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: Why about the Browns? Never?

1214
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: No, I know, I know I'm saying a questions roster building.

1215
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: They've lost the plot roster building in my opinion.

1216
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything got roomed with the Watson thing and so

1217
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: straight the schedules really hard obviously, but last year, I

1218
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: mean they were they were bad across the board. That

1219
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: bad injury left their mind. Twenty two turnover margin, the

1220
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: quarterback play can't get any worse. The defense had a

1221
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: really down year. Everyone in the secondary had like their

1222
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: worst year. But then you lost Emerson. He's out for

1223
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: the year at Nickel, so he can't bounce back. You

1224
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: do need one new safety. Ward is now dealing with

1225
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: an injury, so like the secondary has to some too.

1226
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah Newsome So I mean they went from a top

1227
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: five pass t to a bottom five past in one year.

1228
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 2: But the back seven depth is really shaky, so like

1229
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: with these injuries already, that's scary. They only had four

1230
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: interceptions last year. The fiftheam since the merger to do.

1231
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: That, that should aggress, that should regress in one way

1232
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: or another.

1233
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: Rash the d line should be able to get pressure.

1234
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: But there's just a lot of unknowns and I don't

1235
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: know how this is all gonna play out. Because they

1236
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: take the good chance they start one to five and

1237
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: then it's like Okay, here Brookies go, so we can

1238
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: see you fail and then get the number one pick

1239
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: next year. So I show value in the over but uh,

1240
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: no interest.

1241
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm I mean, there's a the thing is

1242
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: week one. Yeah, I was about to say this could

1243
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: be a team that I think you have to know

1244
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: who's at quarterback to, you know, and then you can

1245
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: kind of make your decision on Okay, this is the

1246
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: matchup now. But even if their win total adds up

1247
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: to a little higher than the market, it's like, first

1248
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: of all, these are you know, these are just win

1249
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: probabilities added up, so it's not like like they still

1250
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: have to win the games and they're still essentially underdogs

1251
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: pretty much throughout the season. So yeah, I think it's

1252
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: still gonna be bad. I just think I think it's more.

1253
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's on Stefanski as much. I think

1254
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: he's just kind of he's had a kind of deal

1255
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: with you know, this roster deteriorating and make make do.

1256
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1257
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, because if you look at the the

1258
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: draft I thought was odd, you know, I mean, if

1259
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 1: Hunter hits, it's gonna look really, it's gonna look even worse.

1260
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, to then double up on quarterback,

1261
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,959
Speaker 1: to have fourquarterbacks competing for a job, and you're still

1262
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: starting Flaco somehow after all that, Uh, you double up

1263
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: on running backs and yet now the guy doesn't sign

1264
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: it cause and you're still looking for another running back.

1265
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: And you know it's just a it's just an odd

1266
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: You signed Deyontay Johnson, bad you know, bad locker room

1267
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: guy you now and now you're you know, you signed

1268
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: bond after Like it's just like one thing after another,

1269
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: just bad optics but also just bad I think roster building,

1270
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: you know. So I don't think this team is is

1271
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: going to be very good at all. And I think

1272
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: this is it's probably gonna be a two to three

1273
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: one team. It could be dogs in every game, Oh

1274
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. So it's like, yeah, they could add up

1275
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: if you add up all your projected win probabilities too,

1276
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, higher than four and a half or five

1277
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: and a half even, but they have to win those games.

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna win enough. We'st recap.

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Speaker 1: What do you like? AFC West and then uh AC.

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Speaker 2: North Barco's under But I don't love it as much

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Speaker 2: as I did earlier in the season, but numbers still

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Speaker 2: show it. I like the Chargers under much more now

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Speaker 2: and and like the Raiders over AFC North. I do

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Speaker 2: I have anything Ravens, no Steelers, no Bengals. No, I

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Speaker 2: lean Brown's over. That's I show Valian Brown's over but

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Speaker 2: probably not playing it. So No, I got nothing in

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Speaker 2: the n SC North.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still have a super Bowl ticket on the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: I still think that Big three Buffalo case Baltimore, it's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: During the season, They're probably gonna get injured at some

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Speaker 2: point and lose a couple of games and then I'll

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Speaker 2: be looking to get in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I do still like the Steelers win total over,

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Speaker 1: but that's not that's more of a because I don't

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Speaker 1: think Rogers actually makes a big of a difference like

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Speaker 1: if he if he you know, can't go or it's

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Speaker 1: just terrible. I don't think that impacts it that much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've done this with Kenny Pickett, they've done

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph even so UH like that. And then I

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Speaker 1: think if you're looking for okay, division winner, I think

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Speaker 1: I think I still don't want to way anything more

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Speaker 1: than I don't even want to weigh even money with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. I still think it's you know, because there's

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Speaker 1: three teams that could be good and the Browns could

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Speaker 1: be so bad.

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Speaker 2: Do you hear an nfcast for the AFC North, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: give it, give it to me. No team has ever

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Speaker 2: won the AFC North three times in a row, and

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Speaker 2: the Ravens are they've won twice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, there you go. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: got Bengals and then hey, I mean I like the

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Speaker 1: Bengals because I think they have more upside because of Borrow.

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Speaker 1: They also have a lower floor. I still think they're

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Speaker 1: they're better division bet but that the second best I

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Speaker 1: guess it has to be the Steelers, which is which sucks.

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Speaker 1: But overall, I do think the Steers would have undervalued

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Speaker 1: in terms of the wind total market. I think the

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Speaker 1: Bengals have a very low floor but very high ceiling.

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Speaker 1: And then the Browns I'd if got in my head,

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Speaker 1: I'd still go under it. I just think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be bad across the board. I just think the Roster

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Speaker 1: building it's already showing its ugly face. It's been showing it,

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Speaker 1: uh and it could it could get work from here.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're split on the Browns, but I've learned

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Speaker 1: my lesson Brown's factory of pain. Never nothing positive ever

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Speaker 1: comes out of that ASCU West Chargers under for me too.

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