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Speaker 1: two with Mr John Hodgman. Hello John, Hi, It's me
Speaker 1: John Hodgman, your friend Chuck and your friend listener. Unless
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Speaker 1: as we were talking about on our last Mini Crush,
Speaker 1: I'm taking advantage of this, of this stay at home
Speaker 1: lockdown to reevaluate all of my friendships. Then in the herd, Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: everybody's my friend. Everybody's my friend. That is true. So John,
Speaker 1: we have a few segments I'd like to get to,
Speaker 1: and we are on somewhat of a limited schedule, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and dive in. So let's get
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Speaker 1: I'll be doing it. I'll be doing it from four
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Speaker 1: to get on inst Insta. I should do. Just do it,
Speaker 1: just creating a just create an account and lurk. That's all,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have to post stuff. Well that's true,
Speaker 1: all right, John. So what I did was I have, uh,
Speaker 1: put some post up on the old movie Crush page
Speaker 1: and we'll get a little talkback going, and then you
Speaker 1: and I can just comment on what the lovely crushers
Speaker 1: have to say about these three things. Okay, first thing
Speaker 1: up is a little question, what objectively good movie generally speaking,
Speaker 1: regarded as a great movie do you actually think is
Speaker 1: a bad movie? Oh? And everyone else is wrong? So
Speaker 1: you can think about that unless you've got one with
Speaker 1: a bullet. And I'll read through a few of these,
Speaker 1: old friend, Don Morris, It's hard for me, a person
Speaker 1: who hopes to come out of this quarantine and work
Speaker 1: in movies and television again. To to poop on a movie, well,
Speaker 1: you don't have to, but I'm trying. There is something,
Speaker 1: there's something that's right on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 1: You read, read some more, and then I'll refine my
Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Old friend. Don Morris is Forrest Gump,
Speaker 1: one of the most beloved movies of all time, and
Speaker 1: I have hated it since the minute I saw it
Speaker 1: in the theaters. So schlocky, I would. I would say
Speaker 1: that that is a movie that I think cinematically in
Speaker 1: terms of a filmmaking prowess, likely holds up. But it
Speaker 1: took me a second to understand that what this movie
Speaker 1: is alive the perfect one? Now? Uh that what this?
Speaker 1: That this movie is right wing propaganda, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: understand that at first. Yeah, but you know it's been
Speaker 1: a revisionist not necessarily a revisionist, but that has come
Speaker 1: out more in recent years. I feel like it was
Speaker 1: discussed at the time, or at least within within I
Speaker 1: remember reading about it at the time. I'm going, oh, right,
Speaker 1: like he he is the pure of heart, midwestern, not
Speaker 1: too smart person who like shows up all of the
Speaker 1: coastal elites and especially those dirty hippies. Um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I've not. I've not felt the need to rewatch that
Speaker 1: movie since. Alright, uh, let me read a few more.
Speaker 1: The controversial one for you. I got a controversial one
Speaker 1: for you. Check. Hang on to that. But that in
Speaker 1: your pocket for a minute. Because Brian Buckley says, I
Speaker 1: know it'll take some hell for this, but Blade Runner,
Speaker 1: while visually stunning, is an absolute snorefest to me. So
Speaker 1: Brian's wrong. Well I think he's wrong. I think he's
Speaker 1: wrong about that, But I mean, but he he has
Speaker 1: an opportunity to say that because Blade Runner is a
Speaker 1: movie that has never been finished. You know, there's so
Speaker 1: many different versions and different directors cuts of it out there,
Speaker 1: there is room to maneuver like I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think that there is a true vision of that
Speaker 1: movie that's that can be considered complete at this point.
Speaker 1: But it's spectacular. I love and I don't hate the
Speaker 1: one with the voiceover narration. I like them all. I
Speaker 1: didn't mind that shout out to One of our listeners
Speaker 1: has a Blade Runner podcast called Shoulder of Orion's shout
Speaker 1: out to them. I love that it's great. Old Blade
Speaker 1: Runner podcasts could not watch Blade Runner. Oh I thought
Speaker 1: it was great. You didn't like it gorgeous, But I
Speaker 1: mean I think that. I mean that that was a
Speaker 1: literal snore fest for me in that I can only
Speaker 1: start movies at about nine o'clock now if I'm going
Speaker 1: to watch a serious movie. Now now that my son
Speaker 1: is a little older, we can watch stuff together, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's this bad part of middle age where it's like,
Speaker 1: if I start a movie at ninety, I'm asleep by
Speaker 1: ten fifteen. I got I feel, and particularly Blade Runner,
Speaker 1: which is so dream like to begin with, or Blade
Speaker 1: Runner or whatever. Yeah, I was. It took me, I
Speaker 1: think nine sittings to finally finish it, and I still
Speaker 1: don't not that's a little bit of exageration, but more
Speaker 1: than three just kind of work through it finally and
Speaker 1: see the end. And plus it a Jared Leto in it.
Speaker 1: And I don't mind saying I don't mind burning that bridge,
Speaker 1: you know, like that guy. Oh no, I don't like that.
Speaker 1: Jordan Catalano. He's been a bad kid since the beginning,
Speaker 1: that's right, bad kids, old pal are Austin are Debski
Speaker 1: says Baby Driver. There were a lot of dumb decisions
Speaker 1: when it came to the writing. Oh, just because you
Speaker 1: were in a car accident as a child that gave
Speaker 1: you super driving powers. Sorry, Chuck, because Austin knows I
Speaker 1: love this movie. I loved that movie a lot when
Speaker 1: I saw it. Uh, and were you allowed to see
Speaker 1: it again? It's got Spacey in it? Yeah you can see. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved John Hammond that movie. I loved. That's you know,
Speaker 1: we love heist movies. You and I both love heist movies.
Speaker 1: And that's some great that's some great boosting that those
Speaker 1: that they were doing in that and the driving sequences
Speaker 1: are amazing. John Hammon, I love a love letter to Subaru.
Speaker 1: So you know, a son of New England can't hate
Speaker 1: Spaby Driver. Next. Uh, speaking of Spacey, Samantha h l
Speaker 1: s as American Beauty, let me count the ways I
Speaker 1: hated this movie. It's gross, portrayaled and older man lusting
Speaker 1: for a teenage girl, makes caricatures of all the female characters,
Speaker 1: completely self obsessed with its own pompousness. I don't think
Speaker 1: that movie has aged well, No, I have zero. I
Speaker 1: remember it coming out and my wife being really into it.
Speaker 1: I was at the time, and I saw it and
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. But I have I have
Speaker 1: zero interest in revisiting that when it feels very much
Speaker 1: of a particular time. Yeah, totally, And I trust everything
Speaker 1: that that person has to say about their their read
Speaker 1: of it. I agree. Uh. Dan Maynard, one of our
Speaker 1: old pal says, Napoleon Dynamite, maybe I just didn't get
Speaker 1: the humor, but god, that movie was awful. Uh No,
Speaker 1: you just didn't get the humor. I didn't like Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if I saw it all the
Speaker 1: way through. Um, it's a I liked it. I liked
Speaker 1: their sensibility, you know, and I feel like, um, that's
Speaker 1: a brother and sister team out of Utah or Northern
Speaker 1: I have to look it up now. Oh what Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 1: The filmmakers. Yeah, I thought it was just the one guy.
Speaker 1: Was it a team? Jared Has is the director, but
Speaker 1: I know his his wife, Jerusha Has basically you know,
Speaker 1: she's the co writer and probably probably co director and
Speaker 1: costume designer. I interviewed her for The New York Times
Speaker 1: magazine about how to dress Napoleon Dynamite and she's like
Speaker 1: just getting you know, go to a thrift store and
Speaker 1: get moon boots. I you know, and I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: talking I really enjoyed talking to her. Um. So maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit of that peering behind the scenes affected
Speaker 1: my my feelings towards it. But I mean that dance
Speaker 1: sequences cinema history, and they had such a they had
Speaker 1: such a striking new i'man look and uh, and you know,
Speaker 1: they went on to make Nacho Libre, which was very
Speaker 1: much in the same vain, and then Gentlemen Broncos, which
Speaker 1: was their really weird two thousand nine movie that I
Speaker 1: auditioned for but did not get the part. But didn't mind,
Speaker 1: um because because it was such a beautifully weird movie
Speaker 1: and I loved it. I'm glad it existed. But after that,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what they've been up to lately.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Gentleman Broncos yet. I've heard it's um
Speaker 1: it's some people say it's one of the worst movies
Speaker 1: ever made. But comedian ARJ Barker was going to be
Speaker 1: on movie Crush and he said that is his favorite movie.
Speaker 1: And he said, trust me, just watch it. It's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's all it's it's all of the weirdest,
Speaker 1: the weirdest stuff of Napoleon Dynamite distilled to its ultimate weirdness.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? All the weird affectation
Speaker 1: and quirkiness. It's it's almost pure quirk. And I can
Speaker 1: understand why people uh D n D do not dig,
Speaker 1: do not dig? All right, this one is gonna get
Speaker 1: you going. Lisa m to share. One of our old
Speaker 1: friends in top fans says iron Man, it's so boring.
Speaker 1: I don't care that it sets up the other movies.
Speaker 1: You can easily watch them without this context. I've never
Speaker 1: been an iron Man fan. I'm Team Cap all the way.
Speaker 1: Always have been, uh liked an appreciated iron Man, but
Speaker 1: always and I love Robert Downey Jr. And his performances spectacular.
Speaker 1: But it is to me that was always a setting up,
Speaker 1: setting up the world. Yeah, I agreed, this one speaks
Speaker 1: to me. Alfie Brady, I'm kind of with you here,
Speaker 1: says Inception is just not good. Having a complex narrative
Speaker 1: does not necessarily make a good film. I did not
Speaker 1: love Inception. I just thought it was okay. I'm a
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan fan. I am too, but I am not.
Speaker 1: This is this is a bridge that I I hate
Speaker 1: to burn. Don't burn it, don't do it. That match
Speaker 1: out all right, I won't burn it. He can offline,
Speaker 1: you can tell me, because I'm sure Christopher Nolan is
Speaker 1: listening right now anyway. No, no, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: burn a bridge with Christopher Nolan. There's no burn. There's
Speaker 1: no bridge to burn. I love I love his work,
Speaker 1: I love his ambition. Um, I found that to just
Speaker 1: be a mind f Yeah, you can say that. I
Speaker 1: did not that. I was not into Okay, you can
Speaker 1: say mind friend on the show. It was a mind
Speaker 1: friend er. And and it felt like a pure mind
Speaker 1: friend er, do you know what I mean? Like whereas
Speaker 1: you get like a Looper going, that's a mind friend
Speaker 1: er that I like Looper that had a human heart.
Speaker 1: I felt like. But I will say about this the Prestige,
Speaker 1: I think terribly overlooked movie. Yeah, I love that movie.
Speaker 1: Incredible movie. Christopher did you see I have not seen
Speaker 1: it yet. Oh wait, that wasn't No, I don't even
Speaker 1: know why. On that. I think that's Sam Mendez. I
Speaker 1: think that's the director of American Beauty. American beauty. I've
Speaker 1: not seen Interstellar. There, I haven't. I haven't kept up
Speaker 1: with Nolan, in part because of um Inception, in part
Speaker 1: because I feel like, uh, you're you're, You're going to twisty,
Speaker 1: you know, fold up city places that I'm not interested in,
Speaker 1: particularly following Show me more Turn of the century, Turn
Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, magicians, please show me more. Uh,
Speaker 1: show me more contraptions, crushing doves spoiler. Yeah. My problem
Speaker 1: with Nolan in a couple of his movies, Inception and
Speaker 1: then uh, what was the Space one? Interstellar? I feel
Speaker 1: he does way too much just blatant explanation of what's
Speaker 1: going on. There's always a character that's like, all right,
Speaker 1: here's what's happening everyone. Yeah, and Ann I think, you know,
Speaker 1: like I think, I think I like thinking movies, but
Speaker 1: not self important thinking movies. And you know, speaking of
Speaker 1: Looper knives Out one of my favorite movies of last
Speaker 1: year or maybe this year, right, I don't know, time
Speaker 1: is meaningless at this point. We're all living, we're all
Speaker 1: living within dreams, within dreams. But you know, that is
Speaker 1: a contraption movie. But at its heart is this relationship
Speaker 1: between the detective and the young woman and the and
Speaker 1: the reveal at the end, which I won't spoil, of
Speaker 1: what he knew when he knew it, and what that
Speaker 1: means for their relationship. That's that gives me goose bumps
Speaker 1: right now, because it's like, Okay, this is caricature, this
Speaker 1: is big, this is thinking, this is puzzle boxy. But
Speaker 1: there's also just this human element to it that I
Speaker 1: that I really appreciate it. Yeah, I love it. This
Speaker 1: one breaks my heart. Elizabeth Connolly Sheiler says sideways. My
Speaker 1: husband and I were forced to watch. I'm sorry. We
Speaker 1: forced ourselves to watch the whole hoping it would be better.
Speaker 1: Never did. What a waste of an evening. It's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies. So Paul Jamati, you can't go
Speaker 1: wrong with Paul Jamati. It's a great, great movie. Alexander
Speaker 1: Payne is in the club for me and and Thomas
Speaker 1: Hayden Church what a great that great actor that pops
Speaker 1: up every now and the fantastic Let's do a couple.
Speaker 1: I spent I spent. I spent a few days in
Speaker 1: Omaha with real Alexander Payne. Yeah, profiled him for the
Speaker 1: New York Times magazine. Look it up. It's on. It's
Speaker 1: on the web. It is. They did find guy. They
Speaker 1: didn't pull it from the web. They didn't. They didn't
Speaker 1: strike it from the web. They're like, uh, we need
Speaker 1: this digital paper to print other stuff. Erase this. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. This will will get a discussion going. Uh,
Speaker 1: Desiree Healed, says Avengers in Game. It's been a year
Speaker 1: and I'm still mad about the lazy storytelling and how
Speaker 1: the writers and directors used it to have a bit
Speaker 1: of a wank. Look how clever we are. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't understand how it can be lazy storytelling but also
Speaker 1: incredibly clever storytelling, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: they worked. I feel like you see the if anything,
Speaker 1: you see the labor of the storytelling on screen, not
Speaker 1: none of them, you know. I mean talk talk about set.
Speaker 1: You know, you're setting up a whole world and you
Speaker 1: know a decade's worth of different narratives that you have
Speaker 1: to sew up together, never mind to finish, just like
Speaker 1: a satisfying ending to Infinity War. You know, you're you're
Speaker 1: wrapping up the the whole, this whole universe in a way.
Speaker 1: And I think they did, and I mean, are these
Speaker 1: perfectly you know, like the Raiders are Lost Dark screenplay
Speaker 1: is a perfect machine. There is there is nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Kasdan created a perfectly satisfying emotional, semi literal role
Speaker 1: or coaster that has real human beings in it um
Speaker 1: and not a loose not a loose threat. It's not
Speaker 1: just the speed and the amount of action sequences. But
Speaker 1: but everything connects so satisfyingly in that movie and has
Speaker 1: such a perfect satisfying ending. And are any of the
Speaker 1: Marvel movies exactly that? No, I mean they to certain
Speaker 1: degree can't be because you know, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of cooks in those kitchens, and I think what the
Speaker 1: Marvel studios really and and by cooks, I mean writers, producers,
Speaker 1: cast needs, multiple massive ensemble cast of people that are
Speaker 1: hard to schedule, Like, you know, given all of the
Speaker 1: moving parts, I think I think they stuck the landing
Speaker 1: in such a satisfying way. But I will say Infinity
Speaker 1: War is kind of of those two by I like
Speaker 1: to set up more than the resolution little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you there. But you know, but
Speaker 1: to some degree that all these the Marvel Cinematic Universe
Speaker 1: movies are not movies in the same sense that we
Speaker 1: talk about any other movie like they are. They're their
Speaker 1: own flavor of things, you know, And um, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's not I would not say it was a bit
Speaker 1: of a wink. It was. It was a huge of
Speaker 1: a wink. All right, we'll do one more here and
Speaker 1: then I want to get your answer. Michael Williams says,
Speaker 1: I watched The Shining for the first time last year
Speaker 1: and was very underwhelmed. I kept wanting Shelley Long's character
Speaker 1: to get the ax, get out of town. Who's what's
Speaker 1: this person's name? This is Michael Williams, and he had
Speaker 1: a couple of people thumb that up. He's got this
Speaker 1: is This is Stephen King writing to you under his pseudonym,
Speaker 1: and await he said Shelley Long too, So I didn't
Speaker 1: even catch that. That's all you need to know. Shelly
Speaker 1: Duval is the name of the actor. Yeah, that's pretty funny. Um.
Speaker 1: Stephen King, of course notoriously hates the Shine movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what does he know? Went back, went back, got
Speaker 1: his money together and remade it in the nineties as
Speaker 1: a two part television mini series. It was not very good. Um.
Speaker 1: I love Stephen King so much. I love that he
Speaker 1: did that, you know, because he's not you know, authors,
Speaker 1: Authors have a certain view of the worlds that they create,
Speaker 1: and watching something be adapted away can be very can
Speaker 1: be very challenging. And Stephen King knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: He knew the story that he wanted to tell, and
Speaker 1: he caught his money together and he told it. You know,
Speaker 1: I kind of admire, you know, Stephen King getting in
Speaker 1: there and trying to remake one of the most you know,
Speaker 1: important movies by one of the most important directors of
Speaker 1: all time, featuring two iconic performances by Shelley duvalon Jack
Speaker 1: Nicholson and replacing them with Rebecca de Mornay and Stephen
Speaker 1: Webber from Wings and Stephen Webber, I've met it. He's
Speaker 1: a great guy, great actor. I mean, respect for stepping
Speaker 1: into the Jack Nicholson role. I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1: But the shining is it's sweet, generous. You know, that's Latin.
Speaker 1: For Get the funk out of here complaining about the shining.
Speaker 1: Come on, it's just what it is. It's something, it's
Speaker 1: something that we have to cinematically reckon with for the
Speaker 1: rest of our lives. For a purpose. I agreed so
Speaker 1: do you have a movie you landed on one? I think, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: there is there is a movie. And I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I'm speaking to you from Brooklyn, trans transmitting to you
Speaker 1: there in Atlanta, Georgia. So one way or another is
Speaker 1: going to strike a chord with you. But Gone with
Speaker 1: the Wind someone listed that. So I have had a
Speaker 1: long relationship with Gone with the Wind because my wife
Speaker 1: grew up in Atlanta and this was her favorite movie
Speaker 1: as a teenager, and we went to go see it
Speaker 1: at the Coolidge Corner Movie Theater. She moved to Brookline, Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: and we met in high school and after we started dating,
Speaker 1: we came back. It doesn't at her. We went to
Speaker 1: go see it at the cool chorn of Theater in Brookline,
Speaker 1: and I had never seen it. Classic movie obviously, and
Speaker 1: it's also famous for being super duper long and having
Speaker 1: an intermission, which is great. No quarrel, no quarrel there.
Speaker 1: But coming out of the movie, she's like, wasn't that amazing?
Speaker 1: Like that is propaganda for the Ku Klux Klan? Like
Speaker 1: that that is a movie that is literally a movie
Speaker 1: in which the Ku Klux Klan is founded and celebrated
Speaker 1: as heroes, like, that's not going to play in Brookline, Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: Atlanta And she was like, oh yeah, I never thought
Speaker 1: of it that way. It's like, yeah, it's really a
Speaker 1: bit problematic to watch a movie from to that that
Speaker 1: romanticized the Confederate point of view. And I knew that
Speaker 1: as a teenager, but then I sweetened on it because
Speaker 1: there is no question it is fantastic filmmaking, incredible acting,
Speaker 1: movie making of a kind that we have, we have
Speaker 1: ali never will see again. They burned down the studio
Speaker 1: to film the Atlanta and Flames, like they had one
Speaker 1: shot and they took it. Storytelling is I mean, setting
Speaker 1: aside the abject racism of that movie, storytelling and characterization
Speaker 1: is is pitch perfect and it is not just as
Speaker 1: a as a perfect machine of writing. It was gorgeously
Speaker 1: directed constantly. I mean, it's just it's an act. It's
Speaker 1: an incredible film. And because of that, I allowed myself
Speaker 1: to be lured into it as we would watch it
Speaker 1: every two or three years over the years and kind
Speaker 1: of stopped seeing the stuff that it initially made me
Speaker 1: so upset until until we rewatched it just a few
Speaker 1: days ago. Quarantine times because my my son and I
Speaker 1: have been rewatching our son and I had been rewatching Firefly,
Speaker 1: and and there's an episode of Firefly that's that's set
Speaker 1: in this sort of like quays I super futuristic Confederate Ball.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of the scene from Go On with
Speaker 1: the Wind, and what are we gonna do? We've got
Speaker 1: hours and hours and hours to sit around? So we
Speaker 1: put it on and this time both my and my
Speaker 1: wife's mouths dropped at how we are feelings about this
Speaker 1: movie had changed since the last time we saw it,
Speaker 1: which was maybe only three years ago. I mean, just
Speaker 1: the characterization of the movie itself is not unself critical.
Speaker 1: It is an open romantization of white Confederate South and
Speaker 1: trade and treason and racism. But but there are times
Speaker 1: when it undercuts that message too. But mostly it is
Speaker 1: just what it is like, this horrible caricatures, lasting caricatures
Speaker 1: that formed white, moving going audiences view of what slavery
Speaker 1: and black people are for generations. And I don't know
Speaker 1: that I can never look at it again now, Like
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed that I allowed myself to get lulled in
Speaker 1: by the movie making over the past twenty years and
Speaker 1: didn't stick with. My initial reaction was like this, this
Speaker 1: is a piece of art and history, but it needs brackets.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a Confederate statue. It needs to
Speaker 1: be torn down and put and put in a museum.
Speaker 1: You know. Well, next time you come to Atlanta, we
Speaker 1: will drink some Martini's in my sun room. We will
Speaker 1: call a lift, and we will go throw eggs at
Speaker 1: the Margaret Mitchell house. I don't want to cause anyone
Speaker 1: any houses any damage. Well, we can just go flip
Speaker 1: at a burden then, but it's just, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, like I don't know what it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was that you know, I
Speaker 1: got clued into it whatever years ago. And then I
Speaker 1: just let it, let the movie making work. It's sick
Speaker 1: magic on me. And then finally the my eyes were
Speaker 1: opened again. It's interesting that your wife flipped on it too, though. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean she understood. She you know, she wasn't like,
Speaker 1: how dare you so almost precious calls? You know, she's
Speaker 1: super smart and she and she, you know, it was
Speaker 1: living in Brooklyne, Massachusetts too, and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. I get it. I get it, but I
Speaker 1: guess I just like the story and the characters, and
Speaker 1: I just have a romantic you know, I'm not a
Speaker 1: have a childhood connection to it. And uh and then
Speaker 1: this time she we were just we looked over and
Speaker 1: it's like we are our eyes called, and we were like,
Speaker 1: can you believe what we're watching? Like, let's turn this off?
Speaker 1: She said, I feel faint. Oh oh, I have the papers.
Speaker 1: So I knew you were gonna say the vapors. Well,
Speaker 1: had to be done, had to be done. All right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna finish up with a segment Mr Hodgeman about
Speaker 1: um And I don't know if we did this or
Speaker 1: not when you were on the other time, But it's
Speaker 1: a game called Haiku theater where in the movie crushers
Speaker 1: right high kus describing a film in some way, and
Speaker 1: the guest has to guess the movie. Sometimes it's obvious,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not. It's called haiku theater. And we'll get
Speaker 1: it going here with let me see here. Uh see.
Speaker 1: I told them to put the name of the movie,
Speaker 1: and then some of them didn't. But we're gonna start
Speaker 1: with our old friend. So we listened to the hiku
Speaker 1: and and try to guess what movie it's described. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know the answers, but you try and guess, alright,
Speaker 1: and and rebel in the creativity of the crushers in
Speaker 1: their hikus. Yea. So from one of the old pals,
Speaker 1: A big Fish fan, Ethan Yavin says this he won't
Speaker 1: work for tunes because one killed his brother. Weasels died laughing.
Speaker 1: Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Very nice? Please remember that movie
Speaker 1: is called Who Framed Roger Rabbit, not Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Speaker 1: Because it does not have a question mark on the end.
Speaker 1: He put a question well, and if you look, does
Speaker 1: it not have one? It does not. And if my
Speaker 1: memory serves, it's because the studio marketing department thought that
Speaker 1: that would not sell as well to have a question
Speaker 1: mark the titles. People, Uh, you want to hear something shocking.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that movie. Oh wow, talk about whole
Speaker 1: I know that's a big, gaping, dirty, dirty hole. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's good, all right, we're gonna go on too. Let
Speaker 1: me see here. Um alright, I don't know if you'll
Speaker 1: probably not know this one. One of our top fans,
Speaker 1: Christopher Steiner, says this annoying pesci diplomat immunity dislocate shoulder.
Speaker 1: M hm. You might get that actually, m hm. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's um one of those movies. I never saw. It's
Speaker 1: a lethal weapon correct, lethal weapon too. Lethal Weapon two
Speaker 1: has Peshi in it. That was good. Lethal Weapon two
Speaker 1: is pretty good. I've never seen a single lethal weapon none, No,
Speaker 1: not a one, not a one, not a two, not
Speaker 1: a three, not a four or therefore I think there
Speaker 1: are four. Yeah, And now that we know Mel Gibson
Speaker 1: is a garbage human, I suppose that's true. It's probably
Speaker 1: not so hard to avoid. Although although I am of
Speaker 1: the I am a huge mad Maxteria Road fan is
Speaker 1: all right thinking people should be. And they made the
Speaker 1: right call. Tom Hardy was great in it, excellent. I
Speaker 1: wish that I wish that Mel Gibson was not a
Speaker 1: garbage human because it would have been great to see
Speaker 1: him at that at his age, in that role and
Speaker 1: and round it out. That would have been incredible. That
Speaker 1: would have been cool. But the call was made, and
Speaker 1: it was the correct call. Old friend David Mills has
Speaker 1: this for us. Stuck into Menchin five teams start to
Speaker 1: figure out who they really are. What else could it be?
Speaker 1: It's inception inception. Uh no, it's not. It's breakfast Club. Okay,
Speaker 1: good job. Christi Richardson has this one? Could I be
Speaker 1: the one jumping across tall buildings? It's all just code man.
Speaker 1: The Matrix another one that we just watched. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you that that movie holds up very well? I think, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a perfect it's a perfect machine of a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I totally agree. Uh, well, it's just just perfect,
Speaker 1: not a not a not a thing out of place.
Speaker 1: That moment at the end when he's in the hallway
Speaker 1: and he breathes in and the walls flex with him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like that gets me. I got chills right
Speaker 1: now every single time I see that. That that last
Speaker 1: bit is just amazing. Yeah. And I'm obviously some of
Speaker 1: the effects and some of the stuff is a little
Speaker 1: bit dated, but only because it's been copied so much.
Speaker 1: It still looks cool. You know. I remember, not not
Speaker 1: having seen some of the Asian action films that the
Speaker 1: wirework was cribbed from. Uh, seeing Trinity run up the
Speaker 1: wall and that opening sequence, I was like, boh, change forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah same here and bullet time, Like it
Speaker 1: was the coolest thing ever. The first time I saw it,
Speaker 1: it was the coolest thing ever. But it holds up. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Um. Josh Brennan says this baby steps
Speaker 1: are key, family vacation destroyed. Dreyfuss eats a fish. Look
Speaker 1: who's talking. It's just because the word baby was in there. No,
Speaker 1: it's what about Bobs? What about Bob? Fun? Fun old movie?
Speaker 1: Let me see if that one has a question mark
Speaker 1: in the title? Yeah, on the on the so who
Speaker 1: framed Roger Rabbit is listed in Wikipedia with a question mark?
Speaker 1: But on the on the theatrical release poster it does
Speaker 1: not have a question mark. And I remember this being
Speaker 1: a thing. But by the time we got to Richard Dreyfus,
Speaker 1: Bill Murray and what about Bob, question marks were allowed
Speaker 1: in titles of movies. Aaron Snell says this, John, this
Speaker 1: is a good one, great movie. We can't take that hill.
Speaker 1: But the General's needs stars sacrifice three men. This is
Speaker 1: a war movie or a western movie to war movie.
Speaker 1: And therefore I'm not John Roderick, not the co host
Speaker 1: of Friendly Fire. A little out of my A little
Speaker 1: out of my wheelhouse, wheel house. So if you can
Speaker 1: tell me which war it is, I can tell you
Speaker 1: which movie it is? World War One? Nope, I made
Speaker 1: a mistake. Gendery director Black and White. Uh. Is that
Speaker 1: the Kubrick World War One movie Pads of Glory? Paths
Speaker 1: of Glory, with Kirk Douglas having recently passed away. I
Speaker 1: just saw that movie, uh, as part of the Filmmaker
Speaker 1: series last year, and it blew me away. I've never
Speaker 1: seen it, man, I've never been into war movies and
Speaker 1: I'm not. It's it's not that I dislike them. It
Speaker 1: just takes me a little bit an extra push to
Speaker 1: go and see them and put them in. Yeah, put
Speaker 1: them in the machine to go. All right. Here's one
Speaker 1: from one of our old friends, Alex Glasnovich, and he says,
Speaker 1: to read it in a Southern accent. Oh my my,
Speaker 1: would fourteen years lock up? Locked up? Now you will
Speaker 1: learn about loss ready counselor Yes, this is um inception.
Speaker 1: It is the Martin Scorsese remake, uh, starring Nick Nolty
Speaker 1: and Robert de Niro. Hang On Payne River, Wait, await,
Speaker 1: let me get. I can't remember the name of the movie.
Speaker 1: Paine River, Payne River, Fear, New Jersey Cape Fear. There
Speaker 1: we are took me a sec well, I like Paine
Speaker 1: river Man. We should write that movie starring the Cape
Speaker 1: Fear is based on a novel called The Executioners by
Speaker 1: John D. McDonald, famous crime author and John D. McDonald
Speaker 1: is the author of one of my very favorite series
Speaker 1: of crime novels, the Travis McGee series. I've heard of those,
Speaker 1: I think, And yeah, so Cape Fear takes place on
Speaker 1: a houseboat. Travis McGee is a a kind a kind
Speaker 1: of private eye, kind of adventurer, kind of beach bum
Speaker 1: who lives on a house about in Fort Lauderdale and
Speaker 1: helps people out if he feels like it. And he's
Speaker 1: a man with a mysterious past. And John D. McDonald
Speaker 1: wrote something like twenty five of these books between ninety
Speaker 1: four and they all have a color in the title.
Speaker 1: The one I'm reading right now is called A Deadly
Speaker 1: Shade of Gold, and boy are they good. And they
Speaker 1: have made movies out of two of them, um, but
Speaker 1: but it never took. They made they made a movie
Speaker 1: in the sixties with an actor I don't remember, and
Speaker 1: then they tried to make a TV movie for a
Speaker 1: pilot for a series starring Sam Elliott, who would have
Speaker 1: been perfect casting for t was mcgage, but that's been erased.
Speaker 1: And then speaking of Nelson, Uh, speaking of um who
Speaker 1: directed The Dark Knight? Uh? Nolan? No one right? Speaking
Speaker 1: of Nolan, Christian Bale was cast as Travis McGee recently
Speaker 1: in a movie that I think seems to have died.
Speaker 1: But the Travis McGee books are a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You would enjoy them a lot. Check especially the ones
Speaker 1: in the the mid to late seventies are the best.
Speaker 1: They're a real portrait of time. All right, I'm writing
Speaker 1: that down because I trust you. All Right, I think
Speaker 1: we have time for a couple more here before you
Speaker 1: have to get going. This is from Ben Masters. Top
Speaker 1: Fans has given Hodgman's personality and likes. Here's one he
Speaker 1: might enjoy. We'll see Ebon Enigma. Sam Spade is on
Speaker 1: the case stuff dreams are made of. Oh, I enjoy that.
Speaker 1: That's the Maltese falcon. Very nice. Ab An enigma mm hmm, yes,
Speaker 1: that's the falcon itself. Eban is an obscure word for
Speaker 1: black as an ebony. Okay, yeah, this one doesn't describe
Speaker 1: a film. It sort of does, but I just think
Speaker 1: it's kind of great right now. Christopher Rennie says this,
Speaker 1: all these protesters should settle down and watch some Steven Soderberg.
Speaker 1: A nice job, Christopher, that's a good one. I like that.
Speaker 1: I enjoy that a lot. Contagion, of course, absolutely number one,
Speaker 1: number one trending movie on iTunes right now, is it really?
Speaker 1: It probably is? Huh oh, it's it's been up there
Speaker 1: for a while for a while since the beginning. As
Speaker 1: soon as as soon as we heard that the school's
Speaker 1: might close, we immediately watched Escape from New York. Great, Uh,
Speaker 1: what else did we watch? Like back when we thought
Speaker 1: it was sort of a funny joke that if this
Speaker 1: was happening, I am the twin twenty eight days later,
Speaker 1: I am legend all lots of them, lots of sort
Speaker 1: of apocalyptic parttularly New York if possible, apocalyptic society collapsing stories,
Speaker 1: but one I would not ever watch again as Contagion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I saw other movies were training for
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, I saw that back back when that
Speaker 1: was that was just this was all just an idea.
Speaker 1: Yea great movie, you know what I mean? And as
Speaker 1: that's really hit me hard as a hard movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very tough, all right, my friend. That is all
Speaker 1: the time that you have. So we're gonna wrap here
Speaker 1: on episode two. A lot of fun man, it was
Speaker 1: a good hand. Can we talk every week? Can we
Speaker 1: do this every week or something? We could do this
Speaker 1: every week. I miss you, Chuck, I miss you. It's
Speaker 1: so easy to reach out across the internet. I know.
Speaker 1: And sadly, Max fun Con this year has been canceled
Speaker 1: until next year, So I'm not even going to get
Speaker 1: to see you probably this year maybe yeah, but if
Speaker 1: but Max fun Con, if it holds up, if we
Speaker 1: are able to get to pack together by June of
Speaker 1: next year, Max fun Coom will be held on fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1: Oh really, quite a party. Quite a party. I'm going
Speaker 1: to go to bed at I'm going to stay up
Speaker 1: all the way to ten and fifteen. Uh you're oh,
Speaker 1: that's right, because I'll be fifty in fun I'll bet
Speaker 1: two in March not fifty as well. Yeah, we have
Speaker 1: a good time. We have a good time. We're old man,
Speaker 1: all right, good scene the stuff. The stuff podcasts were
Speaker 1: made of two old men talking about movies. Give my
Speaker 1: love to the family, and yeah, take care and your
Speaker 1: mind to yours. Yeah, you guys, be careful and be
Speaker 1: safe and and uh, get that machine gun ready if
Speaker 1: if New York goes bad. Yeah, you know, I'm a child.
Speaker 1: I'm a child of Massachusetts seven. Don't have any guns.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks you guys for listening. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Good seeing man, take care man, you
Speaker 1: two all right, Bye, bye bye. I gotta run. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to jump off, but I gotta go. Yeah. For
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