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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Burree, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on AFT

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zagura. Alright,

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Speaker 1: so live on a Friday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 1: I am merely bow to my immediate right is the

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Speaker 1: great z down the line right is the great half.

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Speaker 1: It's hot baby, It's a hot one boys, it is

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Speaker 1: a hot one off. Can you believe he doesn't eat mayo?

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Speaker 1: No mayo on? This guy? Shocking? All these things that

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Speaker 1: I'm learning about Z. I'm enjoying. I'm loving getting to

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Speaker 1: know him. And then all of a sudden, full stop,

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Speaker 1: you don't do any white condiments because I'm enjoying some

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Speaker 1: nice Saziki sauce with some delicious Lamb lollipops from the

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Speaker 1: Brea cafeteria. And he says he did Lamb lollichops lollipops

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Speaker 1: without saziki. And then he says, no male, no male?

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Speaker 1: What about sour cream? No Jesus gone? What does this

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Speaker 1: world come to the big on a Tacoma? What out

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Speaker 1: about like white soft cheeses? No, Like I'm not afraid

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Speaker 1: of having mozzarel on a on a pizza pie. I'm

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Speaker 1: not afraid of even a nice barata. You don't like

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Speaker 1: cheddar cheese though, not sorry, I would like like European cheese,

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Speaker 1: like a chihuahua. Okay, in a like in a case

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Speaker 1: of dilla or some caso colhita. Yeah, what are like

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Speaker 1: those Mexican cheeses cohita? Ones? Like little ones? But but

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Speaker 1: no liquid white sauce. No ranch. No? Hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: Hold on a second, what are you doing? Hold on?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, wait, wait, let's talk about something else. Wait

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Speaker 1: a second, Wait, Joe, there's nothing we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be as fun as this is fun, as

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Speaker 1: long as we number one chip of all time. Col

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Speaker 1: ran Torito's I like the taste of ranch. I don't again.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm forty four, as you told me yesterday. My

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Speaker 1: upper two apps are because I work out. My bottom too,

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Speaker 1: are not there for dying. I tried at the decision

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Speaker 1: that I make but a flavor A plus, No, I

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Speaker 1: don't like. It's the cream you. You don't don't like creamy,

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Speaker 1: don't like butter like a soft Irish butter. No butter,

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Speaker 1: no butter, no butter, baby, sea in butter. I've seen

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Speaker 1: it with my own two eyes. That's some ge, some

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Speaker 1: ge which is you know, clarified butter. But right, but

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Speaker 1: that's like, you know, I'm cooking that in there. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna like spread butter on a piece of bread,

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Speaker 1: and that would compounded butter like a garlic chive compounded butter.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't top of thelightful hard seared ribb I steak,

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Speaker 1: because that's like definitely now it's melted with some rosemary

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Speaker 1: mixed in theah. Of course, yeah, exceptions to the rule,

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Speaker 1: but still generally speaking, I'm trying to keep it for

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Speaker 1: you know, and white condiments are typically not. I just

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Speaker 1: just one issue your honor, and that is that that

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Speaker 1: you This isn't about This is a choice of taste.

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Speaker 1: You have never liked cram ever, you never cream. This

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Speaker 1: really isn't about fitness, you you obviously some of the

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Speaker 1: things are the things that I like to taste of,

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Speaker 1: Like a ranch I tested, you never liked me. Did

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Speaker 1: you like ranch dressing as a child, Yeah, you dip

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Speaker 1: a carrot in it as you like vanilla shakes? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love ice cream. Well, it's similar, it's just not frozen.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not similar the milkshake and the sweetness

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Speaker 1: of that. I just don't like to taste of mayo.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gross. Sour cream is gross. But I

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Speaker 1: will cook with sour cream in a couple of pasta

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Speaker 1: sauces make but a fat free sour cream no big deal.

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Speaker 1: If you cream does not exist in our world. With

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Speaker 1: all of those brown spotted cows that you're running on

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Speaker 1: what I would say that that's think they got a

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Speaker 1: the thing that's crazy. That's that's like the country of

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Speaker 1: New Zealand, for example, New Zealand. You think lamb from

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Speaker 1: New Zealand when you're New Zealand, orange roughie, my dad

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Speaker 1: would say a fish. When you're in New Zealand. It's

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Speaker 1: very difficult to get those things. Why because they are

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Speaker 1: not eating the product. You don't get hot the product

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Speaker 1: of the consumer, brown spotted milk going out at the

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Speaker 1: your ranch, your brown spotted is are also our number

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Speaker 1: brown spot is our number one milk producers and meat

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Speaker 1: producers barely. That's because you found Really it's a hybrid

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Speaker 1: hybrid that I created with a geneticis that reminds me

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Speaker 1: of an episode of South Park where they created a

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Speaker 1: look at to places for provolone and squirrels. Boom, brown spotted,

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Speaker 1: You got it? What's next? What's next? Fellas well? We

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Speaker 1: really don't know, No don't. It's a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: and that applies to absolutely everything we could possibly be

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Speaker 1: talking Yeah, that applies to absolutely everything that we could

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Speaker 1: possibly be talking about. Joe, since last we convened on this,

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Speaker 1: now we'll do the stuff that isn't fun um I

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Speaker 1: prefer to do in the brown spotted, in the milk

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Speaker 1: and the crime. But instead, since the last time we

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Speaker 1: all did a show together, we had an NFL appeal,

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Speaker 1: which we wouldn't last time we talked, we weren't sure

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Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily going to happen, actually thought it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It did happen. We had a a second appointee that

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Speaker 1: is now uh an independent process, which I think we

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Speaker 1: is designated to buy the commissioner. So you can obviously

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Speaker 1: view that how you want to be fair. Even Ian

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Speaker 1: Rappaport is saying this is not independent, Like, let me

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Speaker 1: make it clear, independent, like I mean you have to take,

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Speaker 1: you have to take. There's nothing funny about any of this,

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Speaker 1: But there is some humor in the Adam Schefter tweet

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Speaker 1: where it said his sources said, what was the exact word,

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Speaker 1: NFL seeking. The NFL is seeking an indefinite suspension. They're

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Speaker 1: appealing to themselves basically if they wanted to be in

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Speaker 1: the first and it's done, like that's it, it's done.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of all of this? I'm disappointed

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Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson, before they approved the contract that Deshaun

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Speaker 1: not good for the fans, it's not good for anybody

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brons. Yeah, and you can feel it out

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, people who want to

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Speaker 1: side of it, who agreed to this term that yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have independent Judge Shu Robinson. By the way,

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Speaker 1: if the NFL says I don't really like what you did,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do it anyway. That's that was unfortunately, and

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Speaker 1: I emphasis on unfortunately, agreed to and collectively bargain, which

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Speaker 1: Jersey worked with the NFL to craft the Personal Conduct Policy.

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Speaker 1: It is no longer independent. This is in many ways

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Speaker 1: hearing from a variety of people. And again, nobody knows

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Speaker 1: been for what twenty five years. They ask you to

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this, Deshaun Watson was eligible to

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Speaker 1: he was eligible. Now. The thinking at the time was, well,

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Speaker 1: not now that we are correct, So that's why they

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Speaker 1: didn't put him on the commissioner's list a year ago. Right,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna let the criminal process play itself out. Well,

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Speaker 1: four different accusers, and why would that be? Okay? So

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Speaker 1: Joe's point, have ruled on this in February before that

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Speaker 1: there was a deal for Deshaun Watson. Shouldn't any NFL team. Look,

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Speaker 1: landed Deshaun Watson. But this could be in Atlanta, it

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Speaker 1: that the facts of the matter on on the ground

428
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Speaker 1: today are that he's still spending for the six games

429
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Speaker 1: as we thought was we found out the last time.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were on the practice field and he's

431
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Speaker 1: gonna go I mean, we're out here at the walk

432
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Speaker 1: through today, you were out here. He was walking through

433
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Speaker 1: with the ones as he has done every day. I

434
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Speaker 1: would imagine coach to Fansky is probably not changing anything

435
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Speaker 1: with their plan until they get more certainty as to

436
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Speaker 1: the length of the suspension. And do you guys know

437
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Speaker 1: when the ruling is supposed to come down from the

438
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Speaker 1: appellate officer. Sometimes this guy is gonna go quick. It's

439
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Speaker 1: very quick. That's I mean, hey, hey, Roger, it's a one.

440
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Speaker 1: You're doing okay? Cool? And how I announced that I'm doing.

441
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Speaker 1: What he's doing now is just trying to get to

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Speaker 1: Um lots to get to on the program, but obviously

445
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Speaker 1: that you're holding. But I'm gonna I'm gonna do my

466
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467
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468
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Speaker 1: Coach to Fanski will be out there, cheez. I mean,

469
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot of what it's been. Uh.

470
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Speaker 1: He's a couple of minutes away. Um form that did

471
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Speaker 1: you guys? Did you check in the Hall of Fame

472
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Speaker 1: game last night? I watched I did watch a little

473
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Speaker 1: bit of it. I watched the beginning and was shocked

474
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Speaker 1: to see Josh Jacobs out there touching the football as

475
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Speaker 1: often as he did. I was really surprised by that.

476
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Speaker 1: Josh mc daniels trying to win to the home ballpark.

477
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Speaker 1: But he did, Yeah he did. He's going, Yeah, they

478
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Speaker 1: were going. That was that really surprised me. I thought

479
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Speaker 1: Travon Walker actually looked pretty good for the Jags. Had

480
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: it went one sack and he had a couple of

481
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Speaker 1: they like doubled them, and he had a couple of

482
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Speaker 1: nice moves. He looked he looked athletic. Um but for

483
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: the most part. It was pretty bad football. It was

484
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: really bad football, but it was fo Yeah, it's it

485
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: was bad football. Um half was dining having Mayo, ignoring

486
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Speaker 1: the not I saw that Jacksonville was playing, and I thought, oh, hey,

487
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: we're doing their game in a week, and wouldn't be

488
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Speaker 1: bad to maybe just familiarize myself with a few of

489
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Speaker 1: the names. But it's become really hard for me to

490
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Speaker 1: watch the Hall of Fame game because the regular preseason

491
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: games already are not seeing household names play. So this

492
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Speaker 1: is like mostly the guys that are forty and below

493
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Speaker 1: on the roster, pretty tough to watch. Hit him with

494
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Speaker 1: your idea at the hof thinks of it my idea

495
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Speaker 1: or my breaking news, because I'm treating it like, are

496
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Speaker 1: we doing my breaking news? Are we doing what I

497
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: think they should do? In the half game, yes, he's right.

498
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Speaker 1: After coach talks about honestly, this was gonna be more fun.

499
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Speaker 1: Here you go, here's a coach. Al right, guys, far away, Kevin,

500
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: you've talked about having a plan at quarterback with Jacobe

501
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: and DeShawn how you're gonna split revs. Has that plan

502
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: changed it all since Wednesday when you guys found out

503
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Speaker 1: the NFL was gonna appeal. No, I think with our plan, Jake,

504
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: we'll just kind of await clarity on the situation um,

505
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: but just continue to move ahead with what we're doing.

506
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: Do you have a clarity though, with the NFLPA, not

507
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 1: the feeling. Do you have clarity that at least you know, DeShawn,

508
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: it will not be available for the first six weeks

509
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: no matter what. Or you still hopeful that you could

510
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: be available week one. Yeah, I would. I hope in

511
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: the next few days that those type of questions gets answered.

512
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: It's it's possible this won't be resolved before you guys

513
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Speaker 1: play Jacksonville next week. So is right now the plan

514
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: for both guys to play. We're we're talking through that, Jake. Uh.

515
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Speaker 1: You know it's coming up here on Friday, So we're

516
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: talking through some of those scenarios. But I have a

517
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Speaker 1: final So it's just yet, Kay, But we know it's

518
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: a fluid situation. But who's already let down? And you

519
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: may be excited that there was an end, In reality,

520
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: it's extended back out. No. I Like I've said you

521
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: guys from the beginning, we're just controlling what we can control.

522
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: Understand that that this is a process and and I'll

523
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: continue to make decisions with the information that I have.

524
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: Jake's first question, it feels like this expension is going

525
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: to get longer because of the appeal. So your decision

526
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: to get in Jokobi more first team rents has not

527
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Speaker 1: NAF I can like you're not calling that, you know,

528
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: helping the plane up. I guess yeah, I would say

529
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speculate. I'm gonna wait till I have

530
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: some concrete information because then you have just been a

531
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: surprise to the organization. Or did you guys play this

532
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: scenario out or the NFL could appeal and you could

533
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: be longer in six games. Yeah, I think all of

534
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: these scenarios. You have to be ready for Nate um.

535
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: And again, it's like we've talked about all along. I

536
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: don't spend a lot of time thinking about the various scenarios.

537
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Kind of just deal with what's in front of me,

538
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: even though the strength of running game are the other

539
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: areas of the team common and argue that you guys

540
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: can accomplish all the goals that you have this season

541
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Speaker 1: regardless of whatever games that you get from Yeah, Amerkay,

542
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go too far into you know, the

543
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Speaker 1: future and what's you know, what's coming. I think I've

544
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: had and I've asked the players to do this, so

545
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same. I've tried to take a

546
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: one day at a time approach, uh, and and focus

547
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Speaker 1: on the day and focus what we have in front

548
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: of us, which is practice. But all those type of

549
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: conversations are probably for another time. You can say, were

550
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: so excited about this football team this season and the

551
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: reasons why they should be excited. Yeah, I think, like

552
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: we've mentioned, we're excited about this season as a team.

553
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: The guys are very excited about two and you mentioned

554
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: the fans we've we've I've definitely felt energy from these fans,

555
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: so uh. But in terms of specifics past that, I

556
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: don't know that it's that time yet. Um. But yeah,

557
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: I think the guys are are excited about the work

558
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: that they put in so far, and they're certainly looking

559
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: forward to competing come September. I'm not sure Bill Callahan

560
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: was the first coach you contacted, but I think it

561
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: was the first of coach you announced on getting your job.

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Speaker 1: So my question is why was he the number one

563
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Speaker 1: target of that's in line he was, and let's go

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Speaker 1: on from there. Yeah. Uh, well, coach was the first

565
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: higher um, but coach Callahan was somebody that I did

566
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Speaker 1: not know personally. Really, the connection there was through Brad

567
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Speaker 1: Children's and coached Children's and coach Callahan worked together way

568
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: back when I believe maybe they started it was at

569
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: Illinois when they first started together. So Coach Callahan, obviously

570
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Speaker 1: I knew from afar, knew all about him, respected his work,

571
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: and then as you get to the business of putting

572
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: staff together, that's that's a complicated puzzle and that offensive

573
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: line piece is a very very large piece of that puzzle.

574
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: So when coach Callahan happened to be available at that time, uh,

575
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: and with my connection to coach childress Um coach McVeigh,

576
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: I spoke to about Coach Callahan early on in that process,

577
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: and it was very clear that he was somebody that

578
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: that I felt like I needed to have on this staff.

579
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Just number one, he's a good offensive line coach, but

580
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: number two, being a former head coach was something that

581
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: was important to me as well. Were you've given the

582
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: advice get your offene line coach, it's a quick breach. Yeah,

583
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: That's definitely something that that is uh talked about in

584
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: this business. It's a big higher and it's a as

585
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: you guys know, Coach Callahan means a lot to our

586
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: success means a lot to me on a personal and

587
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: professional level. UM. So it was a big deal when

588
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: I when we were able to get him, because there's

589
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: certain years that Bill Callahan's not available based on you

590
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: know he's got a job. In that case, I was

591
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: fortunate that he was looking for one. Speaking of the

592
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: line and what kind of resources Joe hands spend for

593
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: your guys in this camp, spending time in the Yeah,

594
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: I think it's been great. Joe is always welcome here.

595
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: I've told him that he he can come every day

596
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 1: if he wants, Um, we'll set up a locker for him.

597
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: But he's uh, he's somebody that's done it at such

598
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: a high level for such a long time. UM, been

599
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: through the ups and downs of an NFL season. So

600
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: I just think he has a lot to offer our guys.

601
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: So as much as Joe is willing, we're always willing

602
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: to take him here a burial. I know he's talked

603
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: to some of your guys, uh, some of the younger

604
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: guys especially, But is it accurate that this is really

605
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: the first time he's been able to be hands on

606
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: because of protocol? Yes, yeah, I mean if you think

607
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: back twenty at least for nobody was here. One was

608
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: all the tears and there was a limited number of

609
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: people that you could bring in. So definitely, this is

610
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: the first time that it feels normal that you can have,

611
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: you know, a resource like Joe Thomas available to your

612
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: players a week before your first game. Are you where

613
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: you wanted to be in this camp or are we

614
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: I think we're hard to say. I think we're where

615
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: we are, knowing we have a long long way to go.

616
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: I think the guys are working very hard. I think

617
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: we're where we want to be from an installation schedule,

618
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: but we have work to do and unfortunately here we'll

619
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: get some more you know, hot weather to do it

620
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: in and we'll be in pads in the next couple

621
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: of days. So starting to integrate that contact period and

622
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: those type of things. So we're on track, but recognize

623
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: that we got a long way to go. And then

624
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: we talked to Martin today and I know, you know,

625
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: we've seen his length. I think that's the first thing

626
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: that stands out about him. What else have you gotten

627
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: a word about him since you drafted him, and you

628
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Speaker 1: know you kund in these last few months. Yeah. Actually,

629
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Speaker 1: I think he's really competitive, so he does a nice

630
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: job out of practice and competing for the ball. Uh.

631
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: He's very intelligent. We knew that going into that process

632
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: of the draft, so that has shown up. He does

633
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do when he's supposed to do it.

634
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: So he's been very accountable in that way. But he's

635
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: been as advertised based and why we're excited to get him.

636
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: He's shown those things to us and we were allowed

637
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Speaker 1: where you've had a base in a road like done

638
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Speaker 1: some other things. Do you have that alm the schedule

639
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Speaker 1: to ro a rowing each time, not this week, but

640
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Speaker 1: potentially moving forward with the wide receivers having that versatility

641
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Speaker 1: of body size and skill, said, how are you seeing

642
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: that shape? That's a good question, Cam, because we do

643
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: try to do things ones versus ones oftentimes and and

644
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: you want, you know, quote unquote good versus good, and

645
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Speaker 1: I think for our players to get really good competitive

646
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: work against each other, I think there's a way to

647
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: do that. And certainly when you're talking about the offensive

648
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: players going against some talented defensive players. Uh, you have

649
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper who is a bigger body, uh, different skill

650
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Speaker 1: set than say a Demitrich Felt, for instance. So I

651
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: think it's really good that those guys get to work

652
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: against different people throughout this camp. Back in practice state

653
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: and such as those guys are really close. I think

654
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Speaker 1: in the next few days we'll get some of those

655
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Speaker 1: guys back, but not today. J Greens and a guy

656
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: that just every day seems to come out here and

657
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Speaker 1: make plays um And obviously those are the easy to

658
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Speaker 1: say you see when he's getting those pvus and the

659
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Speaker 1: lot alins with just from a consistency standpoint, from your

660
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Speaker 1: perspective and maybe even Joe and what you've talked about,

661
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: just how consistent has he's been And are are we

662
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Speaker 1: making more of what we're seeing or not enough of

663
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: what we're seeing at him? I don't know what you're

664
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Speaker 1: making of it there. Uh, he's having a good camp.

665
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: He's a good football player, and I think he showed

666
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: that when he got opportunities last season in games. He's

667
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: shown up on special teams throughout his career. So I

668
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: think he's he's another guy's in the natural progression of

669
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Speaker 1: being a third year player and seeing if you can

670
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Speaker 1: take that next step. He's talking about getting working. Going

671
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: back to Wednesday, you pulled the team altogether kind of

672
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: earlier in practice. Was that about your babe in the

673
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: work you wanted to No, No, that was just sometimes

674
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: all pulling together to explain the next drill we're doing.

675
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Speaker 1: Could corners get a better teacher than Cooper? Yeah, that's

676
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: a good point, Marle. Uh. You know, he's a challenge

677
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Speaker 1: for corners, And I just think about when I was

678
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Speaker 1: evaluating him this season when he maybe was gonna be available.

679
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: The corners in this league really feel Amari coming off

680
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: the ball. Uh. And it's it's again that we've talked

681
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Speaker 1: about the combination of size and speed and savvinus and

682
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Speaker 1: and and lean and all those type of things. So uh,

683
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Speaker 1: those corners UH talked to Amari a lot after a

684
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Speaker 1: play and ask about certain things he's seeing. So uh,

685
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: he's definitely able to show them physically. Uh. And then

686
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Speaker 1: he's the professional that loves to talk ball afterwards. You

687
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: guys are complimentary at Greg Newsom throughout his rookie year. Um,

688
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Speaker 1: I can think you can get better maybe, ye? Yeah,

689
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Speaker 1: I think there's a ton of room for growth with

690
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Speaker 1: Greg again, second year player. Uh, played inside and out

691
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Speaker 1: for US last season, was competitive when the ball was

692
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: in the air. So I think there's a ton of

693
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Speaker 1: technical things that he can can work on. He's and

694
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Speaker 1: he's working on those things with coach Hayward and coach Lynch,

695
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: and then just a general understanding. So much of that

696
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: becomes schematic understanding and pattern recognition, uh, the things that

697
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: allow you to just react and not think. And you

698
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: see some young players oftentimes they's playing slow because they're

699
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Speaker 1: thinking and and we really want them to react as

700
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: opposed to think. He's talked about his mom and his sister.

701
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Speaker 1: We've been kind of critical of him, like when he

702
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Speaker 1: makes the mistake, don't first to point it out. Did

703
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: you hear them when you were playing going up in? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

704
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Speaker 1: I know I know what that feels like. That continues

705
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: to today, That continues to today, Yeah, Dad and brothers. Yeah.

706
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Speaker 1: Under the category of will turn over any stone find

707
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Speaker 1: telling what Colin kaepernickle on the Browns ready list at

708
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Speaker 1: any point, yeah, I'm not gonna have those type of

709
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: discussions Tony on who we've looked at and haven't but

710
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: I'll kind of leave that internal James. James doing a

711
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: good job. He's continuing to come along. Uh. You know,

712
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: he played a lot last season, maybe more than we

713
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: thought he would because we had that rash of injuries early,

714
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: so he got thrown in there, had some good moments,

715
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: and then I think this off season has been really

716
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: really key for him getting his body where it needs

717
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: to be, getting his understanding of the position where it

718
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: needs to be. Because he was a defensive player, he

719
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: was a late transitioned offensive tackle. So he's a guy

720
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Speaker 1: that I believe is making strides and and i'd go

721
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Speaker 1: back to coach Peters and coach Callahan and coach Tocast

722
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: for the work that they're doing with him. I think

723
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: is showing dividends a bunch of times, like it's hard

724
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: in the screen the answer aline game line questions, Um,

725
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Speaker 1: you know you have some heads, head of practices. What's

726
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: your progress support on the form now? Yeah, I think

727
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: to your point now is when you start to answer that,

728
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Speaker 1: I still think it's a little early, just when they've

729
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: only been on for for a couple of times. So,

730
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: but he's there's a skill set there obviously that we're

731
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: excited about you see him in drills, he comes off

732
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: the ball, there's an explosive ability. Uh. He needs a

733
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: ton of technical work like a lot of these young

734
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: guys do. It just needs reps after reps after reps.

735
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: So luckily we have the time to do that for

736
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: him right now. But I'd say it's a little early

737
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: to make a more of a claim than that. Ken,

738
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: You've been in a situation in your career where you

739
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: had to plug in Minnesota playing for most of the season.

740
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: Obviously get a nice result for you guys. Do you see,

741
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, some some of some similaritieson Do you feel,

742
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: you know, super confident that we can kind of carry

743
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: this team if it turns out that he has to

744
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: do that for ten Twell? Right, Yeah, I think I

745
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: definitely used my experiences in the past to help inform

746
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: me now. And that was a also a unique situation. Um,

747
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: so I definitely lean on some of those experiences. I

748
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: had other experiences. Think about when Farve came in uh

749
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: to the Vikings late in the process. Sam Bradford got

750
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: to the Vikings late trade after Teddy's unfortunate injury. So

751
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: I think any a lot of your coaches here that

752
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: have spent a lot of time in this league, have

753
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: seen a bunch of different things when it comes to

754
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: guys becoming available and getting them ready to play, and

755
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: and you know, having an offseason to get a guy

756
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: ready to play. So I think we're gonna use all

757
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: those experiences that we have. But when it comes to

758
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, you know, the approach we're having taken

759
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: right now is we've gotta get everybody ready to play. Uh.

760
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of training camp when you can

761
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: have a bunch of reps and and get the show

762
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: on his reps to get your Cobe, We get Josh Rosen,

763
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: get Josh Dobbs his reps. And I think that's kind

764
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: of where we are now. Men given, I hope so,

765
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: because I mean, you don't you don't even know that

766
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: this point it will be available playing some of those

767
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: early games that you've been thinking it would be able

768
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: to because yeah, exactly, we'll let that play out, Mary kay.

769
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: But Uh, we gotta get the Seawan ready to play.

770
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: He hasn't played football in a year. Uh. We gotta

771
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: get Jacobe ready to play. I mean he's potentially gonna

772
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: be playing early forest and starting, and we're gonna be

773
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: counting on him. Uh, same thing for Dobbs and Rows

774
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: and those those have to be ready to play. So

775
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: I just look at it is we're gonna use every

776
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: opportunity we have out here, individual drill, post practice, during practice.

777
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: We got to get all these guys ready to play. Obviously.

778
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: Do you see that any of that rushing this on

779
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: the Shawn that you mentioned that he hasn't played since

780
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: the two I wouldn't say I see rusting this, Jeff.

781
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: I think you know, these preseason games will be an

782
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: opportunity to play when it's it's game setting and and

783
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: the defense can come after you and you're you're you're

784
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: truly in a game. I think that that will really

785
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: be more when when you get closer to game reps

786
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: than say a practice. Okay, thank you guys, appreciative. All right,

787
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: there's head coach Kevin Stefanski. I thought the most noteworthy

788
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: thing there is that Joe has a locker if he

789
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: wants one, permanently taking him up on that one. I

790
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: like that. That's very that that's a lock is it

791
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: should be. Let's go back to we told you liuminaries

792
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: as big ell as they get on the on the

793
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: personnel side of it. They're ready. They saw enough, they

794
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: saw they needed to see on that kick drill, super Bowl,

795
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: that's it. One game when it happens like Hollywood Hogan,

796
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, good God, Almighty, it's Joe, It's Joe

797
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: Thomas's music. Oh my goodness. High school. High school was

798
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 1: first be a man amongst boys. Remind me, Mike the Moons,

799
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Speaker 1: like you can it's coming in real and they can

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00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: press it in red. I can press it in half.

801
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: What was your hoops game like? I was pretty solid

802
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: all state hooper, I mean Wisconsin, not ultra competitive in

803
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: the hoops category, but I was like ten boards, twelve

804
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: to fifteen points. Um. We had some good scores on

805
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: the team, so I wasn't really asked to do a

806
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: whole lot of scoring. But I had a very good

807
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: field goal percentage sixty percent field goal seventy percent from

808
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Speaker 1: the line. So I was I was additive to any team.

809
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: Put me on any team. I can play good defense,

810
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I can get rebounds. I'm gonna give you that twelve

811
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Speaker 1: to fifteen points. I'm not gonna miss any shots, no turnovers.

812
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: I was a great role player like Bill Russell, just

813
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: like Bill, there were other guys who scored. I did

814
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: the things that needed to be done. That's where I

815
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: fit well as an offensive line. Who was when you

816
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: were okay with? As a young huff who was like

817
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: your bad? Was basketball your first love or football? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I would say probably because I was big on the

819
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Speaker 1: A U circuit when I was in Who was your hoops? Like?

820
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Speaker 1: Who was your You wanted like that you you're pro who? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if I had anybody that

822
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Speaker 1: I like emulated or like idolized, but I grew up

823
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Speaker 1: in Milwaukee Bucks fan being in Milwaukee and so Glenn

824
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Speaker 1: big Dog Robinson was a big dude. But I would

825
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Speaker 1: actually my all time favorite was probably Shock right because

826
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Speaker 1: he was such a great talent personality, just transcendental offensive

827
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Speaker 1: player in the NBA half a shock. It was just

828
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Speaker 1: fun watching like back in those days. He would be

829
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Speaker 1: break can backboards and the kids, one of my kids run,

830
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Speaker 1: one of my young especially. One of my favorite calls

831
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Speaker 1: in basketball ever was from the McDonald's All American Game

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Speaker 1: and Dicky V was on the call and Shack took

833
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Speaker 1: a rebound and went coast to coast and like shook

834
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Speaker 1: some guy and then just finished it with just a

835
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Speaker 1: monstrous thing, and Dicky V Is like, are you serious?

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Speaker 1: Are you for real? That's a seven footer baby, Oh

837
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Speaker 1: my goodness, are you too young to even know? Jack Sigma?

838
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Speaker 1: Remember Sigma? We used to do the sid were up

839
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Speaker 1: and then you do a little the hooks under the hook.

840
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Speaker 1: I think we saw it. Is that a jack sick?

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00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: But at the end of the kick, at the end

842
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: of the two minutes, drill on the sky hook. Now

843
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: everybody's we will give We'll run our ideas past the

844
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: half for the Hall of Fame game. Among other things,

845
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: is the team is out here. Keep you keep painting

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00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: the picture of of what we see out here at

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Speaker 1: at many at training camp. Brother, on this fine day,

848
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Speaker 1: by half. Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame. This is

866
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Speaker 1: in an incredibly important weekend for the league. This is

867
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame class. It's welcome to the NFL.

868
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: Starters have to play and I don't even care if

869
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: you go thud, but I need to see Trevor Lawrence

870
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: out there. I think it has to be mandated that

871
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: those guys play in that game. Protect them. We're gonna

872
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: have the Eagles here next week. Everyone's gonna play smart.

873
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: No one's gonna hurt quarterbacks. Why couldn't you do the

874
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: same thing in the Hall of Fame game? How can

875
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: the NFL let this be what we saw last night.

876
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: Here you go, here's NFL football for so you're suggestion

877
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: would be forced the starters to play but don't allow

878
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: them to tackle the quarterback is more like a spring game.

879
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Take care of yourselves. Yeah, kind of like a spring game.

880
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself even on the outside, even with

881
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: the skill guys. Thud. How about we even just treated

882
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: like cheated, like a joint practice where you can go

883
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: and you can do one on one, you can do

884
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: that goal line and just have it be kind of

885
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: like an awesome because competition, but in a much safer

886
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: environment with real people. It makes sense for two reasons. One,

887
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: nobody really cares about the score anyway. I mean, maybe

888
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: they're getting interests. Do they even take a like a

889
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: line on this. I'm not a sports gambler, but I

890
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: imagine that that might be difficult to not have the

891
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: scoreboard if if that's the case, but if you made

892
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: it like a joint practice, certainly the fans would get

893
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: a lot more out of it. People would love to

894
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: watch that. To be able to have one on ones

895
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: and be able to have red zones and like your

896
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: different situations, that's exciting for fans. That's why they come

897
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: to training Camp four, like I would tune in then

898
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: instead of going to uh the Great Fahrenheit Restaurant and

899
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: Tremont last night with my wife to go see the

900
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: Great chef Roco Whalen, I would actually turn on the

901
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: game and watch it a little bit. If I knew

902
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I was gonna be able to get something out of

903
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: it and enjoy watching Trevor Lawrence throw some one on

904
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: one routes with his receivers and cornerbacks like that would

905
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: be exciting to me. The coaches would like that because

906
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: they could script their practice and what they wanted out

907
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: of it, rather than just having a game they were

908
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: trying to get through. With Derek Carr throwing them the ball,

909
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: you'd have Waller and Red. Your ratings would be times

910
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: a hundred. The whole thing is just absurd NBC puts.

911
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean they have their whole crew there. I mean, yeah,

912
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: they're putting a lot of effort. Your boy, your boy

913
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: Jack's down there working things. How happy did Rodney look?

914
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: Thrilled him like Jack and Chris Simms with Rodney. Rodney's

915
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: over the moon at this office, purely overjoyed. Yeah. I

916
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: didn't think a lot of Matthew Berry. By the way,

917
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: man Matt Berry did a great was going to see

918
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: him there. I thought that, Um, I thought Jason Garrett

919
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: was really good on THEE Yeah he will really think

920
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: he will be good. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I

921
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: just feel like if this is your first run at it,

922
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: and I think, like I guess is their view is

923
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: like people aren't smart enough to understand that if it's

924
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: not a game, they won't understand what they're watching. And

925
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: I think that's silly. I think I think are way

926
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: more evolved than that. I agree. You can even do right.

927
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: You can have like feel contests where you got like

928
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: the kickers sit and stuff like they just you could

929
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 1: do every right. You could still still have a game.

930
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: You could break it down where there's like scoring in

931
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: the one on ones. Right, every time it's a catch,

932
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: it's a point for the offense. Every time it's a

933
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Speaker 1: not a catch, it's a it's a point for the

934
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Speaker 1: d A picksworth two, a touchdowns worth, you know too,

935
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Speaker 1: And you go and you do that, and I think

936
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Speaker 1: people have a great time with it. I think it'd

937
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: be fun to watch because you're watching the actual players

938
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Speaker 1: play and an environment that is somewhat safe, like the

939
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: fact that you know, you think, okay, alright, Trevor Lawrence

940
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: year two, they just signed Christian kirk to you know,

941
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: for seventeen million years, that crazy. You didn't get to

942
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: see either one of those guys. You didn't get to

943
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: see Travis Etien who's back. You didn't get to see

944
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Davante Adams playing with this college quarterback, Derek Carr or

945
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: Renfroe or waller Max Crosby. Any of the stars of

946
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: the game. You didn't see, with the exception of the

947
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: first overall pick, who had a nice show and kind

948
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: of like Michael Parsons did last year in that Hall

949
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: of Fame game. But right, it's a better come on,

950
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: So the first time we see football, it can't be

951
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it's really that. Even when I was

952
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: playing in when starters used to play in the preseason,

953
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean, we play three quarters in the third preseason game.

954
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: Even back then, nobody played in the Hall of Fame game.

955
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: And now when you don't have your starters play hardly

956
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: at all in the preseason, the Hall of Fame game

957
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: has got even worse. And I think can't deserves better.

958
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: I think the league that how do you actually turn

959
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: it on and watch. I wouldn't you be interested to see?

960
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: Like if they had a thing with the throwing nets

961
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: and you had to have car or buckets in the

962
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: corner of the end zone and he had car Versus

963
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: Lawrence and it was just yes, throws. You could still

964
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: do the eleven on eleven. We do eleven on eleven

965
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: and joint practice. But I was gonna say, I make

966
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: it like a joint practice. That's exactly. I think you're

967
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: your best answer, because that's the most interesting thing for everybody,

968
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: and it's gonna make the players and the coaches get

969
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: something out of it like a practice, like the reason

970
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: that they do join practices in the first place. So

971
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: I think that potentially could be there. But I do

972
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: wonder what the gambling influence now in sports and how

973
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: you have to keep score some way and be able

974
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: to bet on it and you can gamble on car

975
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: versus Lawrence. I'm sure, yeah, exactly, let it out, figure

976
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: it out, and they will all right, well here from

977
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: we'll kill your spoiler alert for next year to that's yeah,

978
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: that's not even scores, it's it's officially official. Um, it

979
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: will be us versus jets. Next year, you and read

980
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: this together and so off while you were enjoying a

981
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: lovely meal at fair Knight was next year, you're gonna

982
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: have to say through the whole damn thing. Brother, I

983
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: hope it's not this hot, because, as you guys know,

984
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: I have a sweating problem. It's gonna be brutal diapers

985
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: under my armpits. How excited a you're gonna be with

986
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: a weather delay on a Thursday night. Let's have a

987
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: weather delay that makes it even more humid and hot.

988
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: But listen, remember I've I've given you. We've even a

989
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: lot of insights in there that during James experience was

990
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: a pretty good one. So party, I'm already thinking about

991
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: the party. That place. I will say this, where against it,

992
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: I will say this, That's stadium next year, full of

993
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: Browns fans. It's gonna be sweet. That's gonna be really sweet.

994
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, Joel Batonio will join the program.

995
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: Continue to paint the pictures here. We're in a full

996
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: contact session today here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus.

997
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: It to Cleve the Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland

998
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: Brown's Daily ESPN Cleveland Welcome Back. To clean Brown's Daily.

999
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: It is time now to welcome in the oldest friend

1000
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: of the show, because he is the longest tenured Cleveland

1001
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: Brown been with Brown's Daily since two thousand and fourteen,

1002
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: the Great Joel Patonia. Joel, how are you. I'm doing well,

1003
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: just in the heart of camp, you know, getting through

1004
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: it and uh getting used to this heat a little bit. Joel.

1005
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: As we sit here and we look over there, there's

1006
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: the Hoff right there, set a pretty elite standard. You're

1007
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: on your way though, to trying to match that standard,

1008
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: not in terms of just in terms of consecutive snaps played,

1009
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: all that Pro Bowls made. Where we at now on

1010
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: the consecutive Pro Bowls? Joel? Um, I think we're at

1011
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: four Pro Bowls for all pros. You know, one of

1012
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: them was the first team, So, uh, we're gonna try

1013
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: to keep it going this year. Do you know the

1014
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: other guard in Brown's history to also make four Pro Bowls?

1015
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: I believe it was Hickerson, right, And where is he? Now? Okay,

1016
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: we'll just go ahead and just we'll just let that

1017
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: marinate for the folks just for a second. There. What's

1018
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: it like being back man, going through another camp? You

1019
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: are clearly. The elder states when you look at that

1020
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: guy and you say, maybe one day I'm gonna be,

1021
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, doing stand ups right there, talking smack with

1022
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: my boys. But now you're still in the mix, playing

1023
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: at a high level. What's it like just kind of

1024
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: going through another camp for you. Yeah, it's all the process,

1025
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: you know. I think things have changed a little bit

1026
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: since you know, young in my career that there's a

1027
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: little more of a rampant period and uh, you know,

1028
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: they try and take care of the bodies a little

1029
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: bit more early in camp, but it's still training camp.

1030
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: You're still here grinding and meetings, grinding on the field,

1031
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, pushing each other on the field to get better. Um,

1032
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: And it's part of process. You know. I think I

1033
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: haven't had like an August off, you know, since I

1034
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: started playing football in seventh grade. And it's it's just

1035
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: kind of part of the process. But it's great to

1036
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: be around the guys. I mean, it's it's a little

1037
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: b different than your with you know, less COVID restrictions,

1038
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: so you know, the fans are here, You're signing autographs,

1039
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: are seeing people, Families can come visit, all that fun stuff.

1040
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: That's part of camp is is happening again, so it's uh,

1041
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: it's been a good start. Or when you signed my

1042
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: my friend Mark and Ashley Monica's baby, I do I do?

1043
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: That was that was probably early in my career, but yeah, yeah,

1044
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: I do remember that. He's like a real legit human.

1045
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: Now he's come a long way. He's come a long way.

1046
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: How is it with the fans? Isn't that nice to

1047
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: have that back? And and what do you think of

1048
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: just kind of all the space now these houses where

1049
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: we're sitting used to be at home and now it

1050
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: is now all this beautiful area, more bleachers, more areas

1051
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: for the fans to be. Yeah, they've done a great job.

1052
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: You know. Um some of the inside stuff has changed

1053
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. They've got the region rooms for us

1054
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: and uh, all all that fun stuff. But out here,

1055
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean I walked out the first day and I

1056
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, they you know, I knew

1057
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: they took some of the houses down, but they you know,

1058
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: took down the fence, got a little more viewing area,

1059
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: got those cool little you know, game day boxes over

1060
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: there for people to look at. So it's a it's

1061
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: a great atmosphere. You know, I haven't been to too many.

1062
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: I've been to you know, indies and Tampa Bay's camps

1063
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And hamp As was awful. That

1064
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: was so hot. That was miserable. That was the first

1065
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: time ever in my life that I was like I

1066
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: might not finish practice. You know, it was so hot there.

1067
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: So I think we have a good man. I think

1068
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: the you know, the puppy pan and all the fun

1069
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: stuff for the kids. Like, I think we got a

1070
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: great set up here and bore you. It is good

1071
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: and I think you can feel kind of that energy

1072
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: and the enthusiasm, which I'm sure it helps you guys

1073
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: get through, as they call him, the dog days of summer.

1074
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: But let's talk about this this offensive line room. How

1075
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: do you like the room? And you know you have

1076
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: had consistency right you look to your left, there's Jad

1077
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: Wills and it's been j C incomes in Nick Carris,

1078
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: but in training camp it was always Nick Harris right

1079
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: to your right. So how has that kind of been

1080
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: and how's that that line coming together? Yeah? I like

1081
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: our room right here. You know, um Coach Callahan, Coach Peters,

1082
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: John to cost, they're all um, They're all they're doing

1083
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: a great job, you know, leading us from the coachy standpoint,

1084
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: and I think we got a good room that works hard,

1085
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: and uh, you don't understand the standard we want to

1086
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: get to. We we you know, I thought we were

1087
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: injured a little bit last year, we didn't quite play

1088
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: up to our standard. Um, because we want to be

1089
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: one of the best lines in the legue. And that's

1090
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: kind of kind of where we want to take our

1091
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: our group too. But it's great to have Jed back.

1092
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: I think he's really focused and and putting work this

1093
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: off season to try and you know, take that next

1094
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: step as a tackle. And um, you know, Nick, he's

1095
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: my guy. You know, he's been here going on three

1096
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: years now. But I've probably practiced them as much as anybody,

1097
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, because anytime Jac had an off day or

1098
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, Ni was slaught up a little bit, it

1099
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: was it was Nick Harris time. And like you said,

1100
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: the last two camps, he's pretty much been in there

1101
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: from the get go, and he has that experience. You know,

1102
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: he has some gameplay, but it's it's been good. And

1103
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: then yet Jack making his way back, Hub making his

1104
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: way back, and of course White's over there too. Uh.

1105
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Kind of holding the right side down right now. But um,

1106
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: it's a good group and we have a lot of competition,

1107
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of young guys, you know,

1108
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: for those backup spots. I thought James had a great offseason.

1109
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: He seems, you know, stronger and more fluid in his

1110
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: kicks and stuff like that. So it's a really good

1111
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: room and I think the competitiveness is great. But everybody

1112
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: gets along pretty well too. What was it like at

1113
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: the end of the practice a couple of days ago

1114
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: when the half walks over and starts holding court and

1115
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: everybody's like around and for you, this is I'm you.

1116
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: You know, you came in the league and you're probably,

1117
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I'm playing next to Joe Thomas, and

1118
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: now you know you're the All Pro. He is retired,

1119
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: but he got to have that moment, which, by the way,

1120
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: I think was like his favorite thing that he's done

1121
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: in a long time. Yeah. He's so so natural and

1122
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: and um, such a good you know describery, almost too detailed,

1123
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: you know, way he can describe a pass that it's

1124
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: like artwork for him, you know, and he uh, he

1125
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: does a great job. But I think when you have

1126
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: a guy like Jet and Hub and you know, help

1127
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: played with him a little bit. But these guys like

1128
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: that get a c greatness you know, up front, and

1129
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: they get asked those questions. It's something when your coach

1130
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: tells you, hey, do this. But when Joe Thomas is like, hey,

1131
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: this worked for me, you know, I think that clicks

1132
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: in people's head. And um, there's such a respect in

1133
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: the line community for him, but for the great players

1134
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: that came before us and to be able to pick

1135
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: their brain and really just focus on a couple of things.

1136
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: And and Joe's such a freek athlete, Like I mean,

1137
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: he's so different that he does some things that I

1138
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody can replicate. But taking one or

1139
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: two things away from his game that you can use

1140
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: in your game, I think is always a huge step.

1141
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: Did you watch him when he was doing his practice

1142
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: kicking where his back foot never touched the ground, he

1143
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: was going like halfway across the field. Yeah, he looked

1144
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: real smooth, like right, it's crazy. He was flowing, you know,

1145
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: And I uh, that's I always remember it. You know.

1146
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: He was just so smooth with it and just so natural,

1147
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: you know. One of the more it's it's really awkward position,

1148
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: like backpedaling, you know, that kicking um, you know, and

1149
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: you have to stop at three in the pound man

1150
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: in front of you. And Joe was always so you know,

1151
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: smooth and flawless with his kicks, and your kicks had

1152
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: to be pretty darn good because he went out to

1153
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: left tackle. Lest You're just dominated the competition. Let's be

1154
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: honest about you hadn't done since Nevada, right, and of

1155
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: course maybe a couple of training camps. There was a

1156
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: time when that was the plan. You were going to

1157
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: be the air apparent for a brief moment there, and

1158
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: they're like, yah, let's go back where he's an all

1159
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: pro guard. That seems to be a good idea. What

1160
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: was it like for you getting back out there at

1161
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: left tackle? Lest you because and this just clicked in

1162
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 1: my head, you never actually played in a game next

1163
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: to Nick, right, because he who played left tackle in

1164
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: Green Bay when he played center that day. Correct, I

1165
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: haven't played next to Nick. He was the center, and

1166
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: then two years ago he played guard when I played guards,

1167
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: so we were never next ye. Yeah, you know, it

1168
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: was one of those moments where you know, I definitely

1169
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable with guard now, but at the moment,

1170
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: it was like we had no one else. And you know,

1171
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: he told me a few days before the game, like, hey,

1172
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: it's your turn on left backle and I mean I

1173
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: wasn't the most comfortable out there, but I was like,

1174
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna compete, I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best,

1175
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's funny we pull up some

1176
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: run clips or were installing something like oh, this is

1177
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: a play from you know, the Raiders game or Green

1178
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Bay game, and I'm like, oh, there, I am a

1179
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: left tackle. So I can always tell my kids someday like, yeah,

1180
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: I played left tackle a couple of games in the league.

1181
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: It was no big deal at a level. Yeah yeah.

1182
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't the prettiest at all times, but

1183
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, I went out there and competed. I think

1184
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: that's probably like in your jeans, right, bare knuckle fighting

1185
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: in your past. It's maybe not the prettiest brawling, but

1186
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: it gets the job done. Yeah, you gotta go out there,

1187
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: compete and just fight for your guys exactly. So this

1188
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: is obviously a unique camp and we're not going to

1189
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: get into the big picture of that, But how do

1190
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: you guys kind of just stay focused and try to

1191
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: keep it normal day today. Yeah, I think coach Safanski

1192
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: does a great job of just keeping us focused on

1193
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: the day. Um, you know, there's stuff that's gonna happen.

1194
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: There's gonna be decisions that are really out of our hands. Um,

1195
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: so we gotta go out there and put our best

1196
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: team on the field, no matter really who is the

1197
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: quarterback out there. But but coach Zafansky, I mean he

1198
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: just has us locked in on the assignment. You know,

1199
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: if we're focusing on third down today or short yardage

1200
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: or anything like that, we're just really focused on that

1201
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: aspect and we don't really have time to think about

1202
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Nobody can give a better scouting report

1203
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: on some of the young guys that are trying to emerge.

1204
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: Our defensive tackle room a lot of young guys. You

1205
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: get to see these guys, what have you seen so

1206
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: far from say Jordan Elliot and Taven Brian because those

1207
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: are the ones you've been matched up with the most. Yeah,

1208
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: Jordan did a great job. I mean another guy him

1209
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: and Nick both I think put a tremendous amount of

1210
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: work this offseason. I mean he's feeling heavy. He's always

1211
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: had pretty heavy hands, but now he has some you

1212
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: know weight behind him too. So I think that's that's

1213
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: great for our defense, have that true kind of noves

1214
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: guard um player. But the other thing is in his

1215
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: great shape. You know, he probably put on like twenty

1216
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: pounds and and he's still moving well, and he's still

1217
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, very strong, and all those things are good.

1218
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: He seems like he has his has his win, which

1219
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: is tough when you put on that that amount of weight.

1220
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: But I think he's in for you know, a huge

1221
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: step and then um yeah, Brian, I mean he he

1222
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: has that quick first step, you know. I remember we

1223
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: played him against Jacksonville and I was always like, all right,

1224
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: this guy has some twitch to him. You know, you

1225
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: gotta be ready for that quick first step. And I

1226
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: think he fits in this that's good with a you know,

1227
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: penetrating three techniques and and um, he's you know, refining

1228
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: his past game. And when you have some guys inside

1229
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: that can you move into it, you can set up

1230
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: some really good games with you know, Miles and Clowney

1231
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: on the edge. Have you had an opportunity to converse

1232
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: with Perry on Winfrey in the trenches. Yet we've had

1233
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: a couple you know, I had a couple of one

1234
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: on ones with him so far, and uh a cut

1235
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: we did ones verse two is one day, so I

1236
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: got a few reps against him, and um, you know,

1237
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: those detackles are still learning. But he's uh, he's exciting

1238
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: to me because he's such a a wild card in

1239
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: the sense, not a bad way, but like he just

1240
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: always like you don't know exactly what what's gonna happen.

1241
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you get you know, a guy that's out

1242
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: there playing, you know exactly, he's like, all right, he's

1243
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: gonna follow the rules. This guy might have a little, uh,

1244
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: a little freedom there, you know, where he makes a

1245
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: play behind the play or or he does something. But

1246
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean you see his first step sometimes when he

1247
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: jumps off the ball and he gets off on the

1248
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: right snap count. I mean, this guy is pretty explosive,

1249
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: pretty passionate, and I think he just loves the game

1250
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: of football, which is something you can't really teach. But

1251
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: that's just gonna develop. And I think he's gonna have

1252
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: some serious splash plays this preseason and it'll be it'll

1253
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: be fun to see him. It will be fun I

1254
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: remember listening to Peyton Manning once and he said, every

1255
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: time I threw an interceptions because the defense player didn't

1256
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: do what they were supposed to do, and that's how

1257
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: they ended up with the ball ended up. Yeah, I

1258
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: see that time. I mean it's it's one of those

1259
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: things where you never think about, but you're like, you know,

1260
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: the longer you play in the league, you see things.

1261
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: You see a blitz coming, you know, four week or

1262
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: four strong, and you're you're watching, You're like, all right,

1263
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: the three technique hast across my face here, so I'm

1264
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: not gonna set out to him. Then he doesn't do

1265
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: that and he goes up the field and you're like, wait,

1266
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: that's not supposed to do that. So, you know, you

1267
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Speaker 1: have a few of those plays sometimes where it's like, man,

1268
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: this is this is not what I expected. But yeah,

1269
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: it happens out there, especially a guy like Payton probably

1270
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: knew the defense better than they knew themselves. Do you

1271
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: say that to them if that happens in the game

1272
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, you were not supped. I know

1273
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: that's not what you were supposed to do. Yeah, a

1274
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: few times I'll be like, I think you got the

1275
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: B gap right there or something like that. I'm like,

1276
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: I think the A gap was yours right there. And

1277
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, occasionally if they're not too man. One time

1278
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: we were playing the Patriots, and uh, the guy definitely

1279
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: was supposed to be in the B gap and I

1280
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: reached him real hard and he just like playing the

1281
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: A gap and I was like, well, you know, game

1282
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: maybe twenty yards off the left side. And I was like,

1283
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: I was like, you definitely had the A gap. And

1284
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: he looked at me and as I was saying that,

1285
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: someone who was running in to get him off the

1286
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: feed old, So I knew he was. You know, I

1287
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: knew he had messed up on that one. But sometimes

1288
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: they'll they'll they'll joke with you, you know, or something

1289
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: like that, depending on who you're playing against. As a

1290
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: veteran like you are, now, what has changed and just

1291
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: year push your family? Man, Now you think about that

1292
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: compared to young two thousand fourteen Joeld Betonio coming in here,

1293
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, what has changed your approach and what is

1294
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: it that you still love about this game and that

1295
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: allows you to continue to do it at the level

1296
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: that you do? Yeah, you know, I got I got

1297
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: two kiddos now and seeing them at Campus Coup. I

1298
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: remember coming in and you know, seeing Joe Thomason. I

1299
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: think he was going into year eight when I when

1300
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: I was a rookie, and how old I thought he was,

1301
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, had he had one kid, he had Logan already,

1302
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: and he had another kid on the way, you know,

1303
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this guy's doing like cross word searches

1304
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: and such an adult, right, I'm like, what is this?

1305
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: And now I think about it, I'm like, I don't

1306
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: feel that old, you know, I'm going to year nine now,

1307
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: and and these young guys, you know, Jed's like my

1308
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: brother's age. Who's you know, born in ninety nine, like

1309
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: twenty three years old and like and I'm like a

1310
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: thirty but like, you know, he just feel a little

1311
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: bit older. But for me personally, like no matter what

1312
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: really happens, like something inside that just wants me to

1313
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: be better. And like you got on the field every

1314
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: day and it's like you see something that happened or

1315
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: something you did last year and you're like, I want

1316
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: to fix that. I want to improve. I wanna, you know,

1317
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: work to be the best. And it's it's it's you know,

1318
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: It's just something I pride myself on and and you know,

1319
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: hopefully the body holds up because I feel really good

1320
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: right now. I feel good, and um, you know, I'm

1321
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: energized with the guys we have on this team and

1322
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: hopefully we can make some runs here. I love that

1323
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm so old. I'm forty four. I still

1324
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: feel young. It does, it doesn't change. It is a mindset, right,

1325
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: It's a state of mind. Yeah. I was doing Legos

1326
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: with my daughter last time, and I was like, this

1327
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: is awesome, Like I'm gonna be able to play Legos

1328
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: my whole life, and and uh, you know, it's I

1329
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: think it's a state, like you said, a state of mind.

1330
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: I feel pretty young. You know, my knees don't always

1331
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: feel that great, but uh, but mentally I'm still there.

1332
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: When you talk about your desire to be the best,

1333
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: that's something I love talking to people who have been

1334
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: great at something like you have, or even like gel

1335
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: So your position right, and he said, that's and I

1336
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: think that it obviously applies even a guards will attacks

1337
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: just the offensive line. In general, you are measured, right

1338
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: and how many times like you do something bad. It's

1339
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: not about how many times you do something right that's

1340
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: kind of the ex actation, but that's when attention typically

1341
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: is brought to an offensive lineman. So like let's say

1342
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: there's a sixty five play game or seventy play game.

1343
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: You go sixty nine for sixty nine, sixty nine pancakes,

1344
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: perfect pass sets, nobody gets here. But the one time

1345
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: that gets somebody gets by you? Is that what you're

1346
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: thinking about all night? A million percent? I mean, I

1347
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,479
Speaker 1: have to watch the game before I go to bed, because,

1348
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: like I mean, even if you play, like I've had

1349
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: some pretty good games where it's maybe one minus on

1350
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: the whole sheet or you know, one or two and

1351
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: they weren't even that bad a place. But like for

1352
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: me to like check out mentally, I have to watch

1353
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: the film that night. And usually it's on the airplane

1354
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: or when I get home, you know, and my wife's

1355
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: like go to sleep, and I'm like I can't, you know,

1356
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm watching the game and I got to see my place.

1357
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's always a place, and you know, for

1358
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: a position like O line, it's it's that Honestly, it

1359
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: sounds weird, but like that fear of losing drives me

1360
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: to not want to lose, you know what I mean,

1361
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: it's the fear of making that mistake to hurt the team.

1362
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: Because a lot of times it's like, oh, you don't

1363
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: even need the line, you don't even need the line.

1364
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: But then that play, when you don't make the play,

1365
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, something bad happens. Was that fear of losing

1366
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: that you know, you're like, you don't want to let

1367
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: the team down and you want to you know, compete

1368
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: at your best. I think that's a fascinating thing to

1369
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: me about talking to athletes who are are at the

1370
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: top of their profession. Then I go back, I said,

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01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: it's to Joe as well. There's a documentary called Comedian

1372
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: with Jerry Seinfeld in it Jerry Seinfeld and after like

1373
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: the peak of Seinfeld now that he goes back to

1374
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: go doing stand up and like before he would go

1375
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: out every time he would be like, are they gonna laugh?

1376
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: Like am I gonna bomb? Like? Am I still funny?

1377
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: Like you're Jerry Seinfeld? Yeah, dude, You're You're funny. It's

1378
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna be just fine. But it's that that kind of

1379
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: fear of failure is a real powerful motivator. What percentage

1380
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: would you say of people that you encounter in this

1381
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: league because there's so many immensely naturally telling people have

1382
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: that mindset, because it feels to me like it is

1383
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: not as common as you might think it is. Yeah,

1384
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: I would think the old lineman, the great old lineman,

1385
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: the guys that want to keep getting better, the old

1386
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: lineman definitely have that mindset. I think dbs are very

1387
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: similar in their own way. But sometimes dB forget about

1388
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: a place so quickly. I'm like, I wish I had

1389
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: that mindset, you know, they just like throw it away

1390
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: so quickly. I'm sure there's quarterbacks like that. I would

1391
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: say probably some guys like the lineman sometimes just go

1392
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: out there and it's like, I don't know what they're thing.

1393
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: I wish sometimes I had the nerves of a D

1394
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: lineman in a game, because I go into a game

1395
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: every game, you know, a D twelve starts now, and

1396
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: every game I'm just as nervous as I feel like

1397
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: I was the first game. You know, there's just this

1398
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: mental approach and it's it's part of the way to

1399
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: get you ready to play a game. But I feel

1400
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: like some guys, you know, receivers maybe are just like

1401
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: having a great time and I'm like, man, sometimes I

1402
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: wish and when we win and we score and we

1403
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: have great plays like that gets me excited. But but man,

1404
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: there's that nervousness before that first drive where you're like, man,

1405
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: this is a real deal, Like I gotta go out

1406
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: there and play. So it's a it's a you know,

1407
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: decent percentage of guys, but not like you said, not everybody.

1408
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: All right, we'll end on this because you mentioned that

1409
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: you'll sometimes you'll get excited out there. So last year

1410
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: when we beat Denver and we had that run that

1411
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: finally sealed it, you had a great celebration that was

1412
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: able to be caught on tape not only on TV,

1413
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: but also on the AL twenty two, which is one

1414
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: of the real treats of that seeing an oldline celebration.

1415
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: What would you say has been your favorite celebration and

1416
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: one that has been called out in a meeting room

1417
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: where it's got really a good thunderous plus because you

1418
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: have some good ones like you do, there's a pretty

1419
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: understated sometimes then all of a sudden it's like you're

1420
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: twirling around with your hands. In the end, it's really

1421
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: it's a joy to see that kind of elation. From you, Joel,

1422
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think for me mostly it's those

1423
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: like impose your wheels plays, like they knew where were

1424
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: running the ball, we were running you know, gap scheme

1425
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: and to finish the game off and you know, we

1426
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: were down a quarterback that game. We were we were

1427
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: kind of against all odds, you know, and they were

1428
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: a solid team at that point, and we were just

1429
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: like we had to find a way to win. So

1430
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 1: getting that first down or like you go on like

1431
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: a twelve played driveword nine or ten of them are

1432
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: run place and you get in the end zone, or

1433
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: and there was no Chub, no Kareem. It was the

1434
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: earnest who ended up being the ground player of the week,

1435
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: thanks in large part of you guys up there. Yeah,

1436
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it's just those big moments. You know,

1437
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: you score a touchdown, you have like a pancake block

1438
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: on the play. It just get your juices going, you

1439
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's a few plays that I

1440
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: could remember. I mean that Denver game, there's a Pittsburgh

1441
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: one where I think that Thursday night Pittsburgh game, um

1442
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: where we beat them. Uh, you know, there's some other

1443
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: stuff that happened at night. But you know, yes where

1444
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: I we had like a QB sneak and I just

1445
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: crushed the guy on the goal line and like those

1446
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: plays just like you know, go back into my mind

1447
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, like, that's why you play the game,

1448
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: to make those plays for your team. So it's just

1449
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: it's just part of it. It has been an absolute

1450
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: pleasure and getting to know you this line and getting

1451
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: to you continue to play at the side level. Best

1452
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: of luck this year, and uh, enjoy yourself out there.

1453
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: Thanks always will all right, we'll back more Clean Brown's

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Speaker 1: I think, gentlemen, since last we reconvened at least ten

1459
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Speaker 1: to fifteen degrees of heat. About of avidity, gnats outrageous,

1460
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: but we're all set for good meals in port. Artist

1461
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: was gone for an hour. Did we get a fan? Yeah,

1462
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: where's the fans? Did you get a fan? Now? I

1463
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: told you to worry about we had him doing. We

1464
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: had him doing what we had Stevie doing. Esteban, what's

1465
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: the update? Five texts? Five texts that were not responded to.

1466
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: No one's responded to a text. I see the gentleman

1467
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: next door have a fan, They've got a family, they

1468
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: look very comfortable. They don't even have it. They don't

1469
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 1: even have a Stevie Orf sweat? Did anybody Joe Thomas

1470
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: lots of sweats is an issue? Feels right now? Say

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01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: like in the ascert when we're trying to ascertain the fan,

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01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: anybody say the Haffs involved the case, But can we

1473
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: rattle some cages? Get the half a fan. I feel

1474
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: like I'm in the swamps of Florida right here, and I, oh,

1475
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: my goodness. You want to help, but you want him

1476
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: to come back. He's giving his time for a whole week,

1477
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm never coming back, not coming back.

1478
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it was not treated properly. He's looking

1479
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,839
Speaker 1: at infinity pulls out Bummy Mountain because he's so unhappy

1480
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: with the current state of affairs. Trying to put myself

1481
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: into some cooler temperatures ntally right, putting myself in a pool.

1482
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: And we're looking at off if you could if you

1483
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: could a little play by play of Joel Betonio, who

1484
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: just turned that fabulous interview by uz as he wants

1485
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: the stationary bike here. There were moments where he was

1486
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: even hitting it on a stand up. Yeah, he was

1487
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: getting really in after it like a climb professional there is.

1488
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: He said, plenty of hours on those fan bikes, and uh,

1489
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: he knows how to cheat the system over there with

1490
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: a look at that. That ain't cheating. Cheating has in

1491
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: with efficiency and so he gets the proper power outage.

1492
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm estimating that he was getting. I think he was

1493
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: faster than David Bell right there is there's no doubt,

1494
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: is there. Yeah, there's a power like a wattage that

1495
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to get above. Like typically, if you're gonna

1496
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: do like the thirty second burst, you need to be

1497
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: above six hundred watts. If you're gonna do longer like

1498
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: sixty second plus, it's like three to four hundred. But

1499
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: the big guys always dominated because it has no impact

1500
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: on your body weight, Like you know, Politian is a

1501
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: little bit different because you put your own body weight

1502
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: in there for the formula. With this, it's just purely

1503
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: a wattage so the big boys always dominate the AirBike

1504
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: on rehab assignment. We're getting a little, a little one

1505
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: on ones right here, right now. I like it. This

1506
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: is Harley Junior dabs on a vertical route. Oh and

1507
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: broke Purnell Motley at the last second. It's his hand

1508
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: in there and knocks the way. This is what I like.

1509
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: I love one on ones and Pats I get fired

1510
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 1: up for this. This is what it goes back to

1511
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: what you were talking about with the Hall of Fame games.

1512
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: Give us some of these one on ones. People are

1513
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: going to tune in and watch. I forgot that I'm hot.

1514
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: This is exactly what training camp is all about, right

1515
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: big guy, One on ones, pass rush, run blocking, maybe

1516
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: some breakdown, you know, half line type stuff inside drill

1517
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: one on ones, receivers, dbs, halfbacks, linebackers like this is

1518
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: where pure joy happens for fans. Yea, as we saw

1519
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: Dalen Baldwin, who joined the team just a couple of

1520
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: days ago, six twenties of Michigan running around and here

1521
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: is Derek Dylan running a route from Deshaun Watson, by

1522
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: the way, signed just a couple of days ago. I've

1523
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: who spent some time on the practice squad for the

1524
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: Giants out of l s U. We're just like, these

1525
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: are guys over the things we loved. The fact that

1526
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: you seamlessly called a one on one participation of two

1527
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: humans I've never heard of. I do this show every day.

1528
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: I've never heard of the two humans that you just said,

1529
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: and then they were You just called it to be fair.

1530
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: I had to go into my notes and look because

1531
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: I know he had just I know him. I know,

1532
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: all right, here's Donovan People's Jones coming and on the

1533
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: other side, we've got eighty three. That is the young

1534
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: man Travell Harrison undrafted free agent interception there on the

1535
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: defensive side, that's a j J three, isn't it? On

1536
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: the pick three, it's either a forty three or maybe

1537
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: a forty angle is naught elite over here being in

1538
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: the corner, it could have been a forty I think

1539
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: I believe, I'm believing that's a forty nine. I think

1540
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: it might be it's a forty nine and plus for

1541
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: your eyeballs. Great. By the way, we just signed a

1542
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: corner today as well, so I don't know, nope, nope,

1543
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 1: we signed a Lavert Hill, another Michigan man there. We

1544
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: like the Michigan kids, don't. Apparently of those guys that

1545
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: we got in the mix, Lavert Hill doesn't have a

1546
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: number in our system. Yette was Sean Jolly, one of

1547
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: my favorites. The young man Felton getting wide open on

1548
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: the shallow crossed their stride. I believe that was Jacoby present.

1549
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: Maybe just hit him in uh in stride. That was

1550
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: lovely Sean Jolly, by the way, under after the free

1551
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: agent out of apple Achan State, who was a three

1552
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: time All Sun Belt Conference first team performances on Mike

1553
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: Harley Jr. With the catch there, number eighty two all

1554
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: time leading receiver in terms of receptions in the history

1555
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: of the You Dalen Baldwin with a nice catch there.

1556
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: Motley now would not have had it. He broke Reggie

1557
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: Wayne's record as well as his single game record, did

1558
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: Mike Harley Jr. But he had the Shawn's going that way.

1559
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: Seasons a lot of play by play this, but he's

1560
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: he's going that way with this right, He's he's working

1561
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: on the other end with the tight ends. There's Josh

1562
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: Dobbs with a little uh finding a completion there against

1563
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: a j Green to the young man Travell Harris out

1564
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: of Washington State. So far we're not saying the names

1565
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: that you would be familiar with. I think, I think,

1566
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: I think it's the tight ends over there, maybe are

1567
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: over there, safeties are over there. Uh, this is this

1568
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: although delpat has bounced. Uh. This is receivers and some corners,

1569
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: some corners, some corners every now. And I don't see

1570
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: twenty out there. I haven't seen him. And I have

1571
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: not seen twenty one there with a towel on his head.

1572
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: Where is he at through the security guy? Hopefully soon.

1573
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: I'm told he's expected to be back here relatively soon.

1574
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: On the other side, we've got a little John Stanton

1575
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: doing a little work over there. It's weird seeing that

1576
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: a d out there and at not being Jarvis, yes, well,

1577
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: and at being Derek Dillon. Sure sure. Look at Daylyn

1578
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: ball would a nice catch against Purnell Motley right there

1579
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: coming to Kobe out of that on that one too,

1580
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: On that a nice ball. Here you go, here's a

1581
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: little Greg news emphor you who's he lined up against?

1582
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: Their Greg Newsome here looks a little hesitates, a little shake,

1583
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: a shimmy and a little quick out. That's two in

1584
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: the row because he got deal pat on the cross

1585
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: before that last time they went through. That's a nice little,

1586
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: a little five yard game there for Dimitric. I like

1587
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: kind of that delay that on the release there. M

1588
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: j Emerson is an impressive looking human. Boys. Every time

1589
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: we've seen him here one on once, he's done a

1590
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: great job. He did a good job. One of the

1591
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: receivers was running a fade. He diverted him off the

1592
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, pushed him really wide, and then used

1593
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: the sideline as an extra defender to help break the playoff.

1594
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: It was textbook from what you want out of your cornerback.

1595
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: Lavern Hill wearing thirty five, I don't even know he's

1596
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: on your sheet there at gibb A no Nate, that's

1597
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: a Nate matters. So he took over that number right there.

1598
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: So when we see a thirty five gentleman, that's who

1599
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: we're that's who we're dealing with their one on one

1600
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: rep half is there is this where the most trash

1601
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: talk happens in all of training camp. Yeah, there's no

1602
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,560
Speaker 1: doubt because everybody knows what's coming when it's on the

1603
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: schedule and it's your opportunity for everybody to be watching

1604
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: and to you to get the best of your opponent

1605
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: or for them to get the best out of you.

1606
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: And as you can see here, the Browns m J. Everybody.

1607
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: So the offense got the better of the defense there

1608
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: the defense do push up of us? Have been a

1609
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: one on one play right there, and it was m J.

1610
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: Emerson was on the coverage working against the Browns ride

1611
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: receiver eighty three out of Washington State, and he got

1612
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: the best of them there. Travell Harris, there's only five

1613
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: eight two Travell Harris by the way, I mean, Emerson

1614
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: mirrored him perfectly. Put it right in push ups Williams

1615
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: Hayes after hitting the ball in the air right there. Yeah,

1616
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: this is exciting. So there you go. Um, so where

1617
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 1: did our tour guys go? Usually in previous days, fellas,

1618
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: we've had a little bit of a longer work out

1619
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: here on a Friday. Once they get into some action,

1620
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: these guys get they get released and that there free

1621
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: to roam free as a bird. What's a Joel Betonio

1622
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: doing right now? Joe? What did you do in these moments? Yeah,

1623
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: he's down there with the offensive lineman, trying to coach

1624
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: up the guys that are out there, the young guys,

1625
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: especially the guys that maybe are filling in for him today,

1626
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 1: giving them a little pointers watching and a lot of

1627
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: times the coaches they'll give you a little bit of responsibilities.

1628
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: Hey go take this guy, take the young guy over there.

1629
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: Why don't you work on X, Y and Z for me,

1630
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: Maybe work on some of those double team blocks. This

1631
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: is the point of emphasis for this player today. You know,

1632
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: maybe it's that first step on some of your inside

1633
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: gap double team type things, or maybe it's his first

1634
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: step on pass protection and a certain type of set.

1635
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: But just trying to be an asset to the team,

1636
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: trying to be an extra set of eyes for the coaches,

1637
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: and trying to encourage the guys that are out there

1638
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: that maybe are in your place. I'm curious to see

1639
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: who works with the first team offensive line at that

1640
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: guard position without Joel Betonia. We have seen here now

1641
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: it looks like number seventy nine to me, which would

1642
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: be Drew Forbes. If my eyes are not mistaken. I

1643
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: was gonna say, we've seen Drew Forbes get second team reps.

1644
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: We've seen yelled a Froehle get second team reps. We've

1645
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: seen Michael Dunn gets second team reps, and we've seen

1646
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: Blake Hants get second team reps at guard. And it

1647
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: does appear to be seventy nine, which would be Drew Forbes.

1648
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: He was a Brown sixth round pick a few years ago.

1649
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: Then he missed all of COVID, he opted out. He

1650
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: missed all of last year with an injury suffered early

1651
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 1: in the season, and he hat Drew Forbes is working

1652
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: as the left guard. He was a six round pick,

1653
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: small school. I want to say, like Southwestern Missouri state

1654
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: prospect x he I believe that he wasn't story in

1655
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: that story that year. Yeah, yeah, he was it. So

1656
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Southeastern Missouri statan. He's in a fight, obviously,

1657
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: make the rest of means he's done some good things

1658
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: in camp if he's getting this rep. Joe Battonio out today.

1659
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,759
Speaker 1: Right in this situation, when Joel's out, what you're seeing

1660
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: is the very first guy, the person that they like

1661
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: the most to back up the interior three players, because

1662
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: on game day, remember, usually you only have two offensive

1663
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: linemen and they're active, one of them is going to

1664
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: be your swing tackle, and the other guy is gonna

1665
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: be somebody that can come in at either guard or

1666
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: even have to come in at center and be able

1667
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: to snap the football. So clearly they really like what

1668
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: Drew is doing because he's able to step in for

1669
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: Joel and he's probably their favorite guy to be that

1670
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: person that's going to be active on the interior on

1671
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 1: game day. Can you explain what just happened here? So

1672
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: we went all offense out, all defense out. So the

1673
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: second team offense comes in with the exception of the

1674
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: first team receivers because you have a Mari here, You've

1675
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: got Donald People's Jones over there, Felton's in there with Brissette,

1676
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: but it was the first team offensive line and quarterbacks

1677
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: with Nick Chubb. Yeah, so it's interesting right now. I

1678
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: think we're doing some situational work here. Judging by the

1679
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 1: down marker over there, we've got fourth and one, and

1680
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: they were working on a little quarterback sneak, not necessarily

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01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: from a hitting standpoint, but just the operations, just the

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01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: all right, this is the snap count work you're gonna use.

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01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: This is the case, you know, this is the cadence

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01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: that I want a lot of times on a fourth

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01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: and one, you're gonna put a hard count in there

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01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: that's just gonna be built into any time we do

1687
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: a fourth and one sneak, it's automatically gonna be some

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01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: type of a hard count. Quarterback will walk away, get

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01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: back up into the into the under the center, and

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01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: then whatever the snapcount is from there, it will usually

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01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: be either a quick count or on one at that point.

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01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: Um So receivers they're nice sometimes, but sometimes they'll say, hey,

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01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: you start working on the next thing while we take

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01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: care of this fourth and one look, and we'll get

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01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: back into it on the next series of plays, which

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01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: it looks like now they're back to first and ten,

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01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: doing maybe some red zone work there on that fringe

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01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty area on the field, and Drew Forbes

1699
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: still in there, Demetric Felton in the slot down in

1700
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: people's jones as well as Marie Cooper, and they get

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: a little stretch out to the right side for Nike

1702
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: Chubb there, who was just exploding all over the field,

1703
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he's had a great camp. But

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01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: I think that this is a very interesting thing that

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01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: they were doing, is working on that hard count to

1706
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: right trying to draw them off, make sure we don't

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01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: jump off. Just that little efficiency for that part of

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01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: it for the offense. And now as you mentioned where

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01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: he into some some red zone team work here and

1710
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 1: still not tackling to the ground, which I don't know

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01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: if we'll see in in this camp, and maybe we

1712
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: will may well see a period of it, but I

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01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: don't know. Coaches have different perspectives on how much tackling

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: to the ground they want to do. Obviously, everybody gets

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01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: tackling work during camp, but some coaches would prefer to

1716
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: get it more in those individual periods where they're tackling

1717
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: dummies or rings or whatever it looks like to build

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01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: the proper technique. But they feel like the risk of

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01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: tackling your own guys and camp might be too great

1720
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: and they'd rather just get your tackling in preseason. UM.

1721
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: Some coaches feel like, hey, I want to get that work.

1722
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: I want to make it as game like as possible,

1723
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: make practice harder than a game, and so they want

1724
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,560
Speaker 1: to get some periods, especially as you ramp up to

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01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: that first preseason game where they are taking guys to

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01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: the ground. We haven't seen that yet, um, but at

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01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 1: some point these guys are going to tackle here, whether

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01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: that be maybe in the joint scrimmages or maybe in

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01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: those preseason games, but you expect at some point there

1730
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: are going to get some live tackling before Week one.

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Speaker 1: just to reiterate everybody that Deshaun Watson is working with

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01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: the starting offense as he has done the entirety of

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01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: this offseason and camp, so no change there. He did

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01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: have a nice tight end screen to David d Joco,

1738
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: and we've seen that a couple of times in this

1739
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: camp all Ray some tight end screens get him in

1740
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: space because he is so quick and electric with the

1741
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, and he had a nice game

1742
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: in that red zone on that tight end screen. It's

1743
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: been one of the things I've been most impressed watching

1744
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is his ability to use touch on the

1745
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: short passes too receivers to tight ends. I was talking

1746
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: with David Najoku this morning and that's what he said

1747
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: really stood out. As soon as DeShawn got here was

1748
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: just his ability to hit the right touch when it's necessary.

1749
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: Not every ball has to be a laser beam, sometimes

1750
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: high as a good placement, sometimes high with a little

1751
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: bit a loft. Is how guys wanted, and so getting

1752
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: on the same page for Watson is is huge and Brissette,

1753
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: whoever those quarterbacks are gonna be with. Hey, it's David

1754
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: and Joco in the back of the end zone. He

1755
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: wants it to be a laser beam, and he wants

1756
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: it high. Different guys, they might have different preferences, but

1757
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: that's all some of the important things that they're gonna

1758
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: work on during training camp and will love so much

1759
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,920
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Speaker 1: And it looks like we've got some weather in gentlemen.

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01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: Inclement weather appears to be imminent at the temp has been.

1773
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: The good thing about the including weather coming is the

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01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: temp has dropped about ten degrees. The gnats, however, are

1775
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: seeking shelter. They're seeking shelter near us. I one in

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01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: my ear didn't no, thank you, We'll pass on that

1777
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: pass begonef impervious to nats. Yeah, well, I mean he

1778
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: can't bother me. He's been swarmed by telling them. A

1779
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: story of being in Canada when I was in college

1780
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: with a buddy on a canoe camping trip and the

1781
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: ticks were so bad. They were actually somehow crawling through

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01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: the small like cracks in the zipper on our tent.

1783
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: And there was so many that the volume was so

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01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: great that they would wake you up in the middle

1785
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: of the night, crawling all over your body. Is so much,

1786
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: so many ticks, there was nothing you could do about it.

1787
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: All you could do is just roll over and accept it.

1788
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: We're in Canada. Off this was like Ontario the Cuetico

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01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: Provincial Park, like right across from the boundary waters if

1790
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: you're familiar with that neck of the woods. But it

1791
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: was like the beginning of June when they all first hatch.

1792
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: If you live any part of your life in the

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01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: Midwest or anywhere that has bugs, like that first window

1794
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: of two weeks when they all hatches easily the worst part. Yeah, yeah,

1795
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 1: hit poorly, torrible, it's torrible. Little Nick Chubb run for you,

1796
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: but always out there. Look at the way he accelerates

1797
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: between thirty and forty yards down the field. It's and

1798
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I just love the way that he finishes every single

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01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: rep that he gets in practice. And this guy is

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01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: one of the pretty eminent players in the league. And

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01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I think it's so important when you've got your guys

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01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 1: who are the stars, when they are the ones who

1803
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: are also putting in that extra work and making sure

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01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: to maximize every opportunity they get, and you hope that

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01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 1: other people on the team, you know, pay attention to

1806
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: that so that they are able to get the best

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01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: benefit as well. So lucky to have that, gentleman, So

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01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: so lucky to have that gentleman. We got the ones

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01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: on the ones here and they're coming out of their

1810
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: own end zone, probably around their twenty yard line. It

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01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: would appear going. Hopefully we'll get a little play right

1812
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: in front of us. Here a little Shawn Watson drops

1813
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: back to pass. It was across the middle of de metric.

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01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: Felton caught it Myles Garrett in the coverage. They're trying

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01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: to rip the ball out. We've said a few times,

1816
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: Miles kind of floating his way away from the quarterback.

1817
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: And so much more to come, so much. Yeah, we're good.

1818
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:39,080
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Speaker 1: miss your chance to win big while supporting the Stay

1822
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: in the Game network choosing clothes for kids. What will we? Uh?

1823
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: What will? What will the next few days be? Like

1824
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: ductor Z. You got practice tomorrow and Sunday. Those are

1825
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: public open practice, public open practices. Day off on Monday.

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01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: We'll get some working on Tuesday, and then Wednesday we

1827
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 1: head down to Jacksonville. So I guess it's probably no pads.

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01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: I would guess no pads tomorrow and then maybe one

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01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: more day of pads on Sunday, if that's possible, or

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01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,759
Speaker 1: do you do one kind of procession. Yeah, it seems

1831
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: like Stefanski's rhythm has kind of been every other. And

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01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna look at that Jacksonville game, not

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01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: so much as a game where they need to take

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01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: the pads off, you know, three days before. But I

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01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they had a padded practice before

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01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: they flew down there and then had, you know, to

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01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: walk through type practices once you get down there Wednesday

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01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: and Thursday. I'm sad, by the way. I'm sad right now.

1839
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Don't be sad. Yes, I will see you guys on Thursday.

1840
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: The Great Bow Bishop, but the big z for he's

1841
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: gonna play play somewhere down there. We got problem and

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01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be busy. Man. We got you going down

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01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and I don't know we land until after

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01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: eight morning Thursday. Maybe on the Thursday. I don't get

1845
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: into Thursday afternoon. That's too bad. I will be eating though, thwarted.

1846
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: We'll have to do some we'll do some meeting break.

1847
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 1: I like the idea of you on a on a

1848
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: nine A m. T Time, say maybe an eight thirty

1849
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: T time Thursday. Somewhere down there. Listen, there's only one

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01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 1: place to play down there there there. I'm with you.

1851
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: I played that place same, but there's there are others. Sixteen, seventeen,

1852
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: eighteen are spectacular. The rest of it off a true

1853
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 1: pleasure pleasures mind. Thanks for inviting me into the family.

1854
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 1: Better for it. Very special. The next levels coming up

1855
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: next back sheep, that's right, that's true. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Cle esp in Cleveland, you've been listening to Cleveland Brown's Daily,

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