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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from housetof

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Speaker 1: works dot com. Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Downy and I'm doublin a Charkerboarding and this summer,

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Speaker 1: as a special treat to all of our royal loving listeners,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be focusing on some of the shenanigans

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Speaker 1: of some notable princesses in history. And last time we

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Speaker 1: discussed Sophia Dorothea of Selah, who was a pretty sympathetic

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Speaker 1: character in her story. I would say she was married

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Speaker 1: off to an incompatible cousin at a young age, was

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Speaker 1: manipulated by her father in law's mistress, who may or

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Speaker 1: may not have been responsible for the murder of her

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Speaker 1: own Swedish boyfriend, and to top all of that off,

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Speaker 1: she spent nearly half of her life held prisoner in

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Speaker 1: a castle. I mean that really does top it off,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. So we can definitely feel sorry for her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even her husband's own subjects, both in Hanover and or

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about Marguerite Louise dor Leon, who

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Speaker 1: was a near contemporary of Sophia Dorothea, and she was

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Speaker 1: also a dynastic pond for her powerful family. She also

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Speaker 1: made an unsuitable match in her mid teens and was

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Speaker 1: held prisoner by her in laws. But whereas Sophia Dorothea

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Speaker 1: comes across as unlucky and maybe somewhat naive, Marguerite Louise

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Speaker 1: seems like she would have been hell on wheel. He

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Speaker 1: really does. She was a firecracker. Just to give you

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Speaker 1: eleanor Herman, who wrote Sex with the Queen, said she

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Speaker 1: was quote born with an uncontrollable temperament, ill suited to

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Speaker 1: her royal position, you know, a position where you kind

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Speaker 1: of need to keep your mouth shut most of the time.

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Speaker 1: She also said she had a fearless, toxic nastiness. Encyclopedia

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Speaker 1: Britannica called her a frivolous consort, and the Women in

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Speaker 1: World History Encyclopedia notes that quote she showered invective on

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Speaker 1: all within reach. So fun times here. But best of all,

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Speaker 1: I think discussing Marguerite Louise is going to allow us

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Speaker 1: to revisit our old friends. The Medici family and her

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Speaker 1: popular people love the Medici family, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to find out how exactly that illustrious line finally

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Speaker 1: full circle. But before we get to that, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about Marguerite Louise's early life.

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Speaker 1: So she was born in sixteen forty five, or they're

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Speaker 1: about to Gaston, Duke do Leon and his wife Marguerite

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Speaker 1: de Lorraine, and Gaston was the son of King Henry

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Speaker 1: the fourth of France and Marie de Medici, and the

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Speaker 1: younger brother of Louis the thirteenth, and because he ended

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Speaker 1: up being the only surviving younger brother, he was called

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Speaker 1: monsieur from a very young age. But it seems like

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Speaker 1: Marguerite Loui He's is daring and her impulsiveness that we're

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Speaker 1: going to discuss later weren't exactly unique to her her alone,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't a unique family trait. No, her father

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Speaker 1: started participating in plots against his brother the king at

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Speaker 1: friend Cardinal Rishi lou We talked about him during the

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Speaker 1: Bourbon series. Being the heir to the throne, however, usually

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Speaker 1: got him out of trouble, got him out of losing

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Speaker 1: his head at least right. I remember, Louis the thirteenth

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Speaker 1: and his wife didn't have children until decades into their marriage,

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Speaker 1: and their son, the eventual Louie fourteenth, was truly considered

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Speaker 1: a miracle for a long time. Will Sara was the

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Speaker 1: only option out there. You had to deal with them, right,

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Speaker 1: so we had to stick around a while. Possible treason

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Speaker 1: giving birth to their daughter, he eloped with Marguerite de

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Speaker 1: Lorraine without permission from his brother. The King and Marguerite's

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Speaker 1: father were actually enemies, and they were finally given the

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Speaker 1: was groomed to be the Sunday wife of her cousin

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Speaker 1: part Herman notes that she had turquoise I she had

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Speaker 1: the Women in World History Encyclopedia, she also was accomplished.

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Speaker 1: She rode well, she hunted, she was smart, she was witty,

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Speaker 1: a brilliant conversationalist. And that last point you got me

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Speaker 1: But then sometimes she would refuse to eat, and other

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Speaker 1: that's that's a bold move Marguerite Louise. To stop her

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Speaker 1: Marguerite Louise also found time to entertain her cousin and

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