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Speaker 1: No more free lunch yuckoes. Oh the rare livery from

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Speaker 1: that money Smith, the voice of God for Around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the podcast It's gonna do right now. I'm Dan Hanzas

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Speaker 1: joined by Mark Sessler as always Greg still in Mother Japan,

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Speaker 1: but yes, joining us from his palatial estate by the beach.

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Speaker 1: It is Matt money Smith. Welcome back to the show, Bud,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I've been listening to the pods

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Speaker 1: go up. Whoa. I just saw that for the first time,

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Speaker 1: the old Zeusser and you think on check it out ground.

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Speaker 1: This was a gift from my brother Kevin Danger hands

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Speaker 1: this and uh, you know, at first I was sheepish

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Speaker 1: because my narciss system can my narcissism cannot be contained.

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Speaker 1: I ask again, because he could have gone Dan Zeus,

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Speaker 1: That that predated you money? Yes? Yes, so you know yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for I don't know who gave it to me. Somebody

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Speaker 1: How cute is it? By the way that Money is

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Speaker 1: keeping up on this show, and then Sessler every day

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Speaker 1: in that car is following everything money of course with

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Speaker 1: Petro and Money Drive Time Studs of Southern California and

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Speaker 1: beyond What what a what a relationship going back and forth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the the sess dog will text me during the show

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Speaker 1: revisiting a particular topic. So I certainly certainly appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we gotta come up with another three hours

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Speaker 1: today and with the big breaking news this morning from

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Speaker 1: John Wilner, the Pope of the Pack who's been covering

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Speaker 1: in history. Petros my partner get into that. You love it, Mark,

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Speaker 1: Money asking for an immediate response. It's more just you know,

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Speaker 1: there's no resentment towards the city of Cleveland by any means.

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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people think if they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a quarterback for the next year, but would

428
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Speaker 1: there be any chance of reconciliation there? No, I think

429
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Speaker 1: for that to happen, they would have to be some

430
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Speaker 1: reaching out. But we're ready to move on, I think

431
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Speaker 1: on both sides, all right. So Baker money says it

432
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Speaker 1: with a smile, and when you watch that, it looks

433
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Speaker 1: like a guy that's just for one seems to be

434
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Speaker 1: saying the right things and just checking boxes. I is

435
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Speaker 1: there any reason to pars words there? I think for

436
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Speaker 1: that to happen, there would have to be some reaching out.

437
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Speaker 1: Is the door even slightly a jar in your mind

438
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Speaker 1: between Baker and the Browns on his end? Anyway? Me? First, no,

439
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Speaker 1: I'll just leave it that. There's no chance. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't aiment that I need to expand or expand

441
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Speaker 1: upon it. It's it's a zero zero point zero percent chance.

442
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: It's not a position. You can do that with leadership

443
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: guys going to the Bahamas, with the Shawn guys getting

444
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: excited about the Shawan. Now Baker's coming. But you know,

445
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: people kind of and directly subtly, you know, taking shots

446
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: at him like you just you can't bring that back in.

447
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: It's too much of a leadership position. And um, just

448
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Jacobi Bersett and that's that or whoever

449
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: else is is Dobbs there, I think so it's one

450
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Speaker 1: of those two guys. I could not agree more. Slides

451
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Speaker 1: me off a piece of that, Jake Brisky. I don't

452
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Speaker 1: think we want too many pieces of that, but that

453
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Speaker 1: that probably is what they're getting. Um, there's no there's

454
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Speaker 1: absolutely no way that Baker Mayfield plays another snap for

455
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I think what he's doing here, you know,

456
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Speaker 1: for them saying they wanted an adult in the room

457
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Speaker 1: first of all, and then you go get to Shaun Watson,

458
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Speaker 1: that that is exemplifies how messy this process has been

459
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Speaker 1: handled by the Cleveland Browns. They put Baker Mayfield into

460
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Speaker 1: a terrible position. Uh, there's no way that he's going

461
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Speaker 1: to come back into a single thing for them. He is,

462
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: if anything, been the bigger person in all of this,

463
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: and that that press conference to me is just him

464
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Speaker 1: simply not wanting to use that opportunity to take a

465
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Speaker 1: shot on the on the city of Cleveland, on the

466
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Speaker 1: team at all. He took the high road. There's no

467
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Speaker 1: way he plays again. Yeah, and you know what, just

468
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: real quick and he's he's he's able to play. I

469
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: don't want to say the victim, but the sympathetic figure.

470
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Speaker 1: So why why get chappy? And Red asked, Now, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: just keep playing the sympathetic figure and it'll work out

472
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: for You're gonna get enough. He's going to get another shot.

473
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Speaker 1: He knows that somewhere someone will give him a chance

474
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Speaker 1: at being a starting quarterback. So he does not need

475
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Speaker 1: to grovel to get back to Cleveland in order to

476
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Speaker 1: have that opportunity. Absolutely doesn't have to say anything else.

477
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Speaker 1: And if I was his agent, I would say, Okay,

478
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Speaker 1: you're at your foot your youth football camp. You're gonna

479
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Speaker 1: have a little bit of availability. Say exactly what you

480
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Speaker 1: said there. Do not do any podcast, don't do I

481
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Speaker 1: am athlete, don't do this, don't do that. Just we

482
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Speaker 1: let this play out, because right now you're actually in

483
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a better spot in terms of

484
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Speaker 1: public sentiment. All right, that's what's happening in the news.

485
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a break, and then we go

486
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Speaker 1: deep diving in the a f C. West rolling to

487
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Speaker 1: his right as Herbert sets his feet, takes a shot

488
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: out field has Dighton but touchdowns chargers fifty nine yards.

489
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: Herbert to giton and it makes no sense, no sense.

490
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: That's the greatest throw I've ever seen. I'm not kidding you.

491
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Speaker 1: That is the greatest throw I've ever seen. While he's

492
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Speaker 1: getting hit, don't what a call by the voice of

493
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Speaker 1: the Chargers, Matt money Smith with that other guy Daniel

494
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah mixed in Justin Herbert made a whole lot of

495
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Speaker 1: amazing throws that might have been the most exciting. In fact,

496
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Speaker 1: I'm working on you know, we're gonna take a little

497
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Speaker 1: break around the July four holiday and when we come back,

498
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Speaker 1: mark we're gonna do uh, We're gonna back in with

499
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Speaker 1: the Superstar Club. I hate when I'm a year late

500
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Speaker 1: on the Superstar Club. Obviously I should have just put

501
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: in Justin before a year two. He's going in this

502
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: year and as part of like my writing process, I

503
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: was watching some of his highlights. The guy what he

504
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: did last year alone so exciting. So we're Justin Herbert

505
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: just one of the shining stars of uh, the a

506
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Speaker 1: f C West, the best division in football. Money's gonna

507
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Speaker 1: have a front row seat for at all fall and winter.

508
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: So let's kind of go through these teams and have

509
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a conversation. And I think this

510
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be kind of a giveaway based on our opening,

511
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Speaker 1: but I want to kind of share a quote about um,

512
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: different players connected important players in this division. And here's

513
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: my quote, and you could connect it to the team. Uh. Sorry,

514
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Speaker 1: I don't like to be a bother, But am I

515
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Speaker 1: the best quarterback in this division? Now? M let's talk Chargers?

516
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Is he? Well? I I mean it's so hard. Yeah,

517
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: it's so hard to take that away from Mahomes considering

518
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: the guys you know, won the division every single year

519
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Speaker 1: he's been the starter, has made it to what three

520
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Speaker 1: four a f C championship games, Uh, two super Bowls,

521
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl victory. I think it's I think it's

522
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: very hard. Um. However, I think when you say that

523
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Speaker 1: he's doing it with Andy Reid, is his play caller,

524
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: Tyree Kill the scariest offensive weapon non quarterback in the

525
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Speaker 1: NFL And Travis Kelsey, who's got a shot to become

526
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Speaker 1: the greatest tight end in the history of the NFL

527
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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. Um, you know, I

528
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Speaker 1: think you can make a case that that Herbert has

529
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Speaker 1: perhaps you know has this year. Herbert's got a chance

530
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Speaker 1: to eclipse that you know, there's no Tyree Hill. Herbert's got,

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Speaker 1: you know, the second year in a system, which is

532
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Speaker 1: the first time in seven years that he will be

533
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Speaker 1: with the same offensive system and coordinator UH in a

534
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: follow up year. So to be able to see him

535
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: just be able to build on what he had already

536
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: learned instead of having to learn a relationship in terminology

537
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: and verbiage of a new system UH year after year

538
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: after year. I think the opportunity has presented for him

539
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: to ascend to that throne, even though Pat Mahomes hasn't

540
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: even perhaps entered his prime. I mean he's entered his prime,

541
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Speaker 1: but he's smack in the middle of it. Ain't like

542
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: he's falling off anytime soon. And there and they could

543
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Speaker 1: be one, and they are one and two in the NFL,

544
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: I think. So it's like if if it's if he's

545
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: number two Herbert at the moment, there's no complaint there.

546
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Speaker 1: I mean there's there. Their styles are different, but if

547
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Speaker 1: you look at Herbert and what he offers from a

548
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: tools angle, you're set for the next fifteen years. And

549
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: that's Rodgers. I would put I put Herbert over all

550
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: of them. Maybe I'm overvaluing that. But I just I

551
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: think Herbert's the second Herbert on this program. That that

552
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: is for sure. Yeah, I think just man in the conversation,

553
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, like that's that's always to me. You can

554
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Speaker 1: take your Josh Allen or your Joe Burrow or your

555
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: Herbert or you like. To me, it's like, are you

556
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: in that conversation? And if you are, then man, you're

557
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: feeling pretty darn good. I mean, you must be feeling

558
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: good money because you know, this is a big gig

559
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: for you. Calling the Chargers games. Is only thirty two

560
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: of these jobs. And if they would have taken the

561
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: guy that went before, went at number five in the draft,

562
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: you're calling to a games And I'm not saying two

563
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: is a bust or anything like that. We're gonna see,

564
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 1: but incredible like a Chargers team that has been so

565
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: snake bit over the years, Uh, the way things worked

566
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Speaker 1: out into their credit, they targeted him as the guy

567
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Speaker 1: and he's certainly become that. I think the thing about

568
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: the Charges aweso money is like their offensive line and

569
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: we know their defense. We'll get to their defense because

570
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: that's the thing that you just wonder and it's always

571
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: every time in this summer, it's like, all right, this

572
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: is the year the Chargers are gonna put it all

573
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Speaker 1: together and then something bad happens. But that offensive line

574
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Speaker 1: what they were able to do so quickly, um rebuilding

575
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Speaker 1: it in the past two off seasons, Rashaunt Slater, Matt Feeler,

576
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: and Corey Lindsley. Filer and Corey Lindsley were all top

577
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 1: six graded players at their positions. In that's that's a

578
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: huge shift. Is there a concern on that line? Maybe

579
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Speaker 1: at right tackle for you, right tackles, I think the

580
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Speaker 1: only concern on the roster, I think of the entire

581
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Speaker 1: roster after kind of the holes they filled in in

582
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Speaker 1: the off season on the defensive front, getting J. C.

583
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Speaker 1: Jackson at at corner. Um, you know what they were

584
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Speaker 1: able to draft in terms of Zion Johnson is going

585
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Speaker 1: to be, you know, reportedly plug and play right guard.

586
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Speaker 1: UM right tackle. Right tackle will be interesting because Matt

587
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Speaker 1: Filer played right tackle for Pittsburgh, played very well at

588
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Speaker 1: right tackle. They put him at left guard because they

589
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Speaker 1: wanted him next to the rookie Slater at left tackle,

590
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Speaker 1: just kind of help out solidify that left side, make

591
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Speaker 1: sure it wasn't too much of a baptism by fire

592
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Speaker 1: and that he didn't need them. I mean, Slater was

593
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Speaker 1: one of the three best left tackles in football his

594
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Speaker 1: rookie year last year. So I wonder if they solved

595
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Speaker 1: the right tackle question mark by moving Filer back to

596
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Speaker 1: right tackle to help out Zion Johnson in his rookie years.

597
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Speaker 1: So now he's sandwich between two. That's one who's in

598
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: the conversation is the best center in football, and Corey

599
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Speaker 1: Linsley the other who certainly performed at a high level

600
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Speaker 1: now for five six years, and Matt Feiler, And then

601
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: that would solve their their right tackle issue. And you

602
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: can plug you know if if someone raises his hand

603
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Speaker 1: in training camp, whether it's Brandon Highmus from last year,

604
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Speaker 1: their fourth round pick out of Nebraska, or it's their

605
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: sixth round pick Jamari Sailor, who did it for Georgia

606
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: at both left tackle, left guard, right guard. Guy played

607
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Speaker 1: all over the line and Georgia ends up winning a

608
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Speaker 1: national championship with him as their best offensive lineman. I

609
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Speaker 1: think that's how they might be able to solve a

610
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: But like that's that's the only question mark. I think

611
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Speaker 1: that that really is universal going into the season. Who's

612
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: gonna play right tackle? Because last year, you know, our

613
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: lasting impression was Storm Norton getting absolutely ravaged by Max

614
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Speaker 1: Crosby in that Sunday night football game. They're in the playoffs,

615
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: that that doesn't happen. I mean, I have to ask

616
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Speaker 1: you one track back question. Had they drafted to how

617
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: annoying for you as a radio man having to say

618
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: his last name, you know, sixties seventy times a game

619
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Speaker 1: versus Justin Herbert Um. Well, it's funny. So I really

620
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: was hoping they were going to draft to u UM.

621
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Speaker 1: As a college football fan, I loved to as a

622
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Speaker 1: college football quarterback. He was incredible Um just the suddenness

623
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Speaker 1: of his movement, the explosiveness when he made a decision,

624
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: the ball was gone, how quickly he was able to

625
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: make those decisions. And you know, selfishly being the voice

626
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Speaker 1: that I hate saying that, being a guy that works

627
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: for the team in a town where they're trying to

628
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: get traction and build a fan base. You know, I've

629
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: lived here for thirty years, so I know how you

630
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: know what the Polynesian community, the Simon community means. It's

631
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: very underrated how important that community is here in Los Angeles.

632
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: It is a giant, I mean massive community. So to

633
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: have a quarterback that would tap you're talking about a

634
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: million people that you're tapping into with a quarterback, you know,

635
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Speaker 1: like to us so selfishly, I was like, oh man,

636
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Speaker 1: if two would just fall in and look, you can

637
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: you can take And I know Greg likes taking shots

638
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: at DJ because of you know, how he had Herbert rated.

639
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: It's not on DJ, that's on Mario Cristal ball. That's

640
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: on Oregon for for for being scared to cut loose

641
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: and let Herbert get after it. They did not allow

642
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: him to play the way he's playing in the NFL.

643
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: It was a one read. If it ain't there, make

644
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: the check down or take off and run. Under no

645
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: circumstances are you to turn the ball over. And that's

646
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: just how christa ball operating. Look at work, they want

647
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: a Rose Bowl and they perform well in the Pac twelve.

648
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: But you know, so just to kind of make sure,

649
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone being like it was all about

650
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: two when they were coming out. Yeah, because too, it

651
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: was incredible in uh in college and Herbert, you know,

652
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: had a lot of question marks because of the style

653
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: offense that they played but to answer your question in

654
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: a very circuitous way, Mark, it's much easier saying touchdown

655
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: justin Herbert then to a tongue. Uh, let's let's move

656
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs, because yeah, I think they have gone

657
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: to the NFC titled game four years in a row. Uh,

658
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: they won a super Bowl nearly, um nearly got back

659
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl last year. I had that baffling

660
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: fourth quarter to melting and absolutely would have won that

661
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against that Rams team. I one hundred percent

662
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: believe that. I listen, I understand you're Los Angeles, you're

663
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: a Chargers guy. You don't know that. If you don't

664
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: like j Long, just say it. The voice of the Rams,

665
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: just come out and say it that one. I love JV,

666
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I love M J D. I got no issues with

667
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: the Rams whatsoever. A lot of friends over there in

668
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: that organization. But all I kept thinking is I was

669
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: watching that Super Bowl, and I don't know if you

670
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: guys felt the same way as man. The Bills, the Chiefs,

671
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: the Chargers, they are all sitting at home going are

672
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: you kidding me right now? Like we are not in

673
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: this game, and this is what we're watching, This is

674
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: how this offense is operating against a you know good,

675
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: a good you know Cincinnati defense and a good with

676
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: an exceptional pair of players Cincinnati offense. And just to

677
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: think of what you know Joe Burrow and Jamaar Chase

678
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: were able to do, and Joe mixing Man thinking of

679
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: what Patrick Mahomes diary killing Travis Kelsey would have done

680
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: in that game. I'm sorry, I'm I'm now fixated on

681
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: the idea of like a Anchorman style alley battle um

682
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: between voices of the A F C. West. So let's say, alright,

683
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: Mark Money in DJ, which is pretty good. Money is

684
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: in great shape, he's a surfer, whiskey man, he moves quickly.

685
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: Uh DJ former D one athlete J B. Long another

686
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: guy in good shape. And then m J D is

687
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: a bowling ball who's one of the best. JD is

688
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna like some shop. And then I don't know what's good.

689
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot what the Denver situation is. Denver

690
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: is um. She's Dave Logan, right, who's on the call,

691
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: who's a big dude and obviously former professional D one.

692
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters, though, because my choice in

693
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: this Mark is just Brent Musburger solo doesn't even need

694
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: anybody walks in, he puts up, puts up his duke's

695
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: nineteen thirties styles, and just clean's house. He'll he'll put

696
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: a cigarette on a cigarette on someone's forehead. I I

697
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: don't UM like your chances money in dj I. You're

698
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: both wonderful announcers, but UM, from a physical menacing physical standpoint,

699
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: I think mg D would be a problem for you

700
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: not to mention Logan and Musburger. Um, how about this,

701
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: by the way, sorry, UM, because this is this is insane.

702
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: Dave Logan for people that don't know, he's the play

703
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: by play voice of the Broncos. Right. He was drafted

704
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: out of high school by the Cincinnati Reds. He goes

705
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: to the University of Colorado, where he is a preseason

706
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: All American basketball player, drafted by the Kansas City Kings

707
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: and drafted by the Cleveland Browns in the third round,

708
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: where he plays in the NFL for seven years. That's like,

709
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a freaking app that you're

710
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: drafted by the Reds, the Kings, and the Browns. You

711
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: got drafted into all three major sports in America. Born

712
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: born nineteen fifty four, All right, yeah, okay, yeah, I

713
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: think you guys are in trouble, but it's it's okay, yeah,

714
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: um let's talk Chiefs though, Let's get through this. Uh

715
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: these teams, I think, um, I think everyone's asking the

716
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: same question about Take Tyreek Hill out of the mix,

717
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: and you add in Juju Smith, Schuster Um, and you

718
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: add Ian Marquez, Valdez Scantling and Mark that you what

719
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: that In theory, the idea is that these different pieces

720
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: will mitigate the loss because they'll do some of the

721
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: things that Tyreek Hill did. But that's not really how

722
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: it works because Tyreek Hill is a generation old player,

723
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: and I don't put it past Mahomes to have another

724
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: big season. And then you look at the standings last year,

725
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: in a year where people I didn't get too crazy

726
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: about the Chief's offense, they still scored four eight points,

727
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: was basically the same amount as the Bills. Are you

728
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: concerned seriously about this? Or is Mahomes so great is

729
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: that he's that he's gonna make it work. I think

730
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: the off season is so long that I've heard um

731
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: a strong like cry it from certain people that they're

732
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. They don't miss Tyree Hill. It's like

733
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss Tyreek Hill and in various situations, your

734
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: best target right now is obviously Travis Kelsey. Um, you're

735
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: gonna need sky Moore to step up and do something. Juju, Smith,

736
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: Schuster and MVS do not equal Tyreek Hill. I like

737
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, three of the three teams

738
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: of four in this in this division have either a

739
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: first year coaching staff for a second year coaching staff.

740
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: With Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, you trust that they're

741
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: gonna come up with enough to make the offense work. Um,

742
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: they might be a little more ground heavy, but I

743
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: think that with Mahomes there is a fool proof element

744
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: to this. But I don't think that I think it's

745
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: been underrated that Tyree Hill is going to be gone

746
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna glide right on the way that

747
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: they have in the past. The one thing about him

748
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: last year, though, is that they their offense looks so

749
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: sluggish to us. They were still second in the NFL

750
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: in e p a per play, behind only the Ramps.

751
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they did round into shape. So I think

752
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: that this is one very resilient team that can overcome

753
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: losses and players. But this is a special player they lost,

754
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 1: So I'm suspicious at best. Yeah, Like my my big

755
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: issue is, um, I shouldn't have my big issue. Like

756
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: my my main concern last year was the offensive line,

757
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: and I think that bore itself out through the first

758
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: six weeks. There were issues, they were turnovers, there was pressure.

759
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: It did not look like the offense that we were

760
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: used to seeing. Right, Patrick Mahomes led the league in interceptions.

761
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: He was not able to buy that time to let

762
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: those plays developed down field because of all the pressure

763
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: he was under. But what happened was Trey Smith and

764
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: creed On Free really got better as this season progressed,

765
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: and the interior that line was able to hold by

766
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: the back half of that season. Um, Like I thought

767
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: you could make a case. And I know a lot

768
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: of this is dependent upon Orlando Brown's on an island.

769
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: The other guys aren't, but like Orlando Brown was one

770
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: of the weaker links on that offensive line. With how

771
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: good that interior three started to play as at Coalesced

772
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: and those guys got their experience and their legs under him. So, like,

773
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: to me, that's a huge win for them going into

774
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: this season, is that you've got these young cost controlled

775
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: interior lineman. Can you help out Orlando Brown? Wiley is

776
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: a huge concern on the other side as as well.

777
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: So and I know we're gonna get into it. I

778
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: think we are at least Like that's the thing that's

779
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: being overlooked is everybody's excited about these quarterbacks and and

780
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: all these weapons. But man, you look across the line,

781
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: and I'm a huge car Loftis fan out of Purdue.

782
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: To pair him up with Chris Jones and Frank Clark,

783
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: and then you go to Denver and you got Bradley

784
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Chubb and they signed Randy Gregory of he's healthy, and

785
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: then you got Chandler Jones, who's a big upgrade I

786
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: think over and got Way who played very well opposite

787
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: of Max Crosby, and then the best of them all,

788
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa. Like that's to me, that's

789
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: where this division is going to be one is how

790
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: healthy is your defensive line and how effective are they

791
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: going to be at slowing down these four incredible quarterbacks?

792
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: Um and when it comes to playing them, you know,

793
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: Like that, to me, that's where it's gonna be one loss.

794
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: So I think the one thing just to kind of

795
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: get to the trap that Tyreek Hill point real quick.

796
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill just scared the hell out of defenses and

797
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators like that. Every single snap you had to

798
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: account for him and adjust your defense for him. So

799
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: now that you don't have to do that, I think

800
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: that's where that impact will be felt the most. And

801
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: I trust your your college football player judgment for sure,

802
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: George Carloft. This is a big part of they need

803
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: more pass rush of this year. So if he steps

804
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: in and has an impact, but still he's a rookie,

805
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: and same thing with sky More a second round pick,

806
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: they like a lot who's entering that mixed I feel

807
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: like Kansas City kind of needs one, if not both

808
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: of those guys to be instant different difference makers. Or

809
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: I see them taking that step back and opening the

810
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: door for the Chargers, or say maybe the Broncos, who

811
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: are gonna get into right after this break. All right,

812
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: let's talk Broncos. Listen. Is it this simple? Is it

813
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: this simple money? Because I think it kind of is

814
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: in football, which is not a simple sport, but you

815
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: see it time and time again, most recently in Tampa

816
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: Bay where they hosted a hosted a Lombardi because they

817
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: had a good roster and all they needed was a

818
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: great quarterback. Here comes Tom Brady and the rest is

819
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: history is Russell Wilson tom Brady. No, but as Russell

820
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: Wilson a truly great quarterback in my opinion, yes, and

821
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: the opinion of many out there. Is it as simple

822
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: as Russell Wilson is there now. So now the Denver

823
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: Broncos are a legit Super Bowl threat and perhaps the

824
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: best team in the a f C West. Is that

825
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: all check out to you? Yeah? I think it. I

826
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: think it does. You know, when you look at Drew

827
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Lock and and he was regularly um, if not the

828
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: worst in that thirty to thirty, you know, I think

829
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: the highest he was ranked in any major category was um.

830
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: So when when you replace that with the weapons they have,

831
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm a big believer in their weapons

832
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: and Tim Patrick and Courtland Sutton and Jerry Judium and

833
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: that is scary. I love Javante Williams, and I know

834
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm doing the name salad thing right now, but yeah,

835
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: when it's not Drew Lock and it's Russell Wilson, my god,

836
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: that is a gigantic upgrade. Um I do think there's

837
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: still questions. You know, Mike Munschak is gone. He's arguably

838
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: the best offensive line coach in the league, and when

839
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: he got to Denver as when that offensive line finally

840
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: started playing well, they were a huge liability. Prior to

841
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: his arrival, Garrett Bowls was terrible, lead the league in

842
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: holding penalties regularly, and then ends up getting with Munchak

843
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: and you know, gets a giant contract, becomes a solid

844
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: left tackle. I don't know whether that's going to carry over, um,

845
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: but to me, I don't see how it's not a

846
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: huge upgrade, just because I mean, that is such a

847
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: giant leap from Lock to Wilson. That is just massive,

848
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: and you're pairing Wilson finally with an offensive minded coach.

849
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I think that matters a lot. I think the X

850
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: factor for the Broncos is um. I just generally concerned

851
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: about teams that we just ticket for, like the a

852
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: f C title game, you know, because of what they've

853
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: done at quarterback, and I know that he has nice

854
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: weapons around him. I'd say the right side of the

855
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: line um is a major question. There's a battle at

856
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: every one of those positions. Another X factor for me

857
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: is like, I like Bradley chub U, can you stay healthy?

858
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: I like Randy Gregory, can you stay healthy? Um Ken,

859
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, Russell Wilson and all these pieces with a

860
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: shaky offensive line get their act together um in time

861
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: for the regular season. And if you're slow out of

862
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: the gate in this division, I think you're in a

863
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: little bit of trouble. And I look at the end

864
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: of their schedule and this is like kind of like

865
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: what what happened with the Rams with Matthew Stafford last year,

866
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: where they started to find their sea legs down the stretch.

867
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: This team closes with the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Cardinals,

868
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Chiefs again, and then the and then

869
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers. That is a brutal six week finish. So

870
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: if they don't have cohesion by that point, this is

871
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: a team that I think could disappoint record wise and

872
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: be much better the second year under Nathaniel Hockett. Yeah,

873
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: that is a good conversation to have. Maybe we'll do it.

874
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: We still love plenty of time before Week one. Teams

875
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: bound to disappoint this series season. I think you mentioned

876
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: chub He he kind of as the old Dave Dama

877
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: check Jenga piece. He lingers to me as a Jenga

878
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: piece on this team because you know, they thought they

879
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: were getting a truly great pass rusher when they drafted

880
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: him in the top five few years back, and injuries

881
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: have held him back. But he's also had moments where

882
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: he's looked like that guy if you get the real

883
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: pass rush from him where he leads that unit, and

884
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: then you have that great uh secondary. That's another major

885
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: part of this. With all these great quarterbacks in the division,

886
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: if they have a pass rush and a lockdown secondary,

887
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: they could figure some things out. And you add in

888
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I'm buying on the Broncos. I understand that

889
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: the there could be some pessimissing around. Might know Greg

890
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: is not as high and Russell Wilson for instance, as others,

891
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: but I'm in on them. I think this is an

892
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: eleven twelve win team. I also think, well, like on defense,

893
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, I know Vick Fongio is gone, but their

894
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator is a Fongio from a Fongio system,

895
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, and so it's like a lot of these

896
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: players versus like, oh, we had a great players for

897
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: the last system now we're starting over. It's like you're

898
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: sliding them back into something very familiar in their secondary

899
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: is among the best in the league. Yeah, I think

900
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: that's the key, you know, is is you know, just

901
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: quickly on that mark. You know, some teams are built

902
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: forward back. You know, the front gets after it, and

903
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: you can have average defensive backs that don't have to

904
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: hold coverage as long. You know, this is the best

905
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: secondary in the league, and so they can hold and

906
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: get a little bit more sticky coverage to get you

907
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: a couple more second, you know, to get you an

908
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: extra half second, three quarters of a second for Chubb

909
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: and Gregory to get to the quarterback because maybe those

910
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: windows aren't open as as quickly. And so, you know,

911
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: to your point, Dan, where they thought Bradley Chubb was

912
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: going to be this, Hey we're pairing von Miller with

913
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb and go ahead and pick your poison. And

914
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: it didn't turn out to be that. But I think

915
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: now that that this, you know, with Simmons and Jackson

916
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: and and pats her Tan and and k One went like,

917
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: it's such a good secondary, um that you don't have

918
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: to be von Miller. You can be that Bradley chubs

919
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: secondary rusher and end up being elite because of how

920
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: sticky the secondary is. Let me take a look as

921
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: of May, just checking out with DraftKings. I'm curious because

922
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: I said I see the Broncos as eleven or twelve.

923
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: The Desert has them at ten. The Chargers also at ten.

924
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: The Chiefs this is a crazy division. Really is Chiefs

925
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: at ten and a half and the Raiders. Let's get

926
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: to the Raiders at eight and a half. So the

927
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: Desert sees the Raiders as a tick below. I have

928
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: another quote here, Money, that I was able to procure

929
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: as the a t N media insider um. Maybe you

930
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: could put it together. Who gave me this quote? Just

931
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: based on context, Money thinks I suck, well, he sucks. Listen,

932
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't think Derek Carr sucks. I just understand I've

933
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: been calling Chargers games. This will be my uh sixth year,

934
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: and in those six years, I have had a chance

935
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: to see Derek Carr twice a season, and much to

936
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: what Joey Bosa spoke to after that first meeting that

937
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: got Derek Carr's that's what I saw. I I would

938
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: see Bosa destroy Colton Miller or whatever, plug and play

939
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: right tackle they had getting to Derek Carr's lap and

940
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: he just didn't want to stand in the pocket and

941
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: look like, that's what's so weird about People think you're

942
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: automatically calling a guy saft or something. That's not the point.

943
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: The point is are you comfortable standing in there, know

944
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: when it's coming and when you're taking shot after shot

945
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: after shot. I totally understand getting rid of the ball

946
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: all because my offensive line can't They can't protect me.

947
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: I can't hold the ball that long. I'm going to

948
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: get drilled in the back and I can't do that

949
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: every player. I'm gonna be broken and half and standing

950
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: on the sideline. So I think what Boassa spoke to

951
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: and what I saw repeatedly was a guy that just

952
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable holding the football. But that changed last year

953
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: like that did change, and I think that's a huge

954
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: development for the Raiders, especially with the arrival of Davante Adams. Um.

955
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: I still thought their offensive line was not good um,

956
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, Derek Carr was just more willing

957
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: to stand in there and let plays develop downfield and

958
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: they were effective. So I like to me, Derek Carr

959
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: took a huge step last year. I thought he was

960
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: take him or leave him. You can probably find someone

961
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: else to plug in there that can do very similar things.

962
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: And I thought last year he ascended to something more

963
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: than that because of his willingness to take shots down

964
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: field to rugs, you know, and and and now with

965
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: Davante Adams there and Hunter Renfrew is as nasty a

966
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: weapon as there is out there. He like that that

967
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: threesome renfro Waller Adams is going to be a nightmare

968
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: I think on throw down especially. But to your point

969
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: about the line, and that's why two teams in this

970
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: division or suspect to me is the offensive line scenario.

971
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Their right guard and right tackle Combo last season allowed

972
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: more pressures than any guard tackle Combo on the right

973
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: side in the league. And so cars gonna be dealing

974
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: with that agegas. They did not fix that. Um, it's

975
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: nice to add Davante Adams. I mean, Davante Adams is

976
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: not I don't think going to produce the way that

977
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: he did where he was sort of a one man

978
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: show in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball. Um.

979
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: And I think this is you know, Josh McDaniels is

980
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: gonna run a little bit of a different type of

981
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: offense than might have a little bit more balanced. I mean,

982
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is also the kind of coach. Maybe this

983
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: won't apply in Las Vegas the way it did in

984
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: New England, especially with Tom Brady, where you're so fluid

985
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: and so high level, where they ran a different offense

986
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: every week based on the opponent. Josh McDaniels, well, go

987
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: quarter after quarter where he runs the ball, you know,

988
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: twenty times in a row if he needs to. I

989
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: don't know how that works with the the attack they

990
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: have because their strength is their weapons in the pass.

991
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: It's such a tough division for this team to be

992
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: and if they were in a different division, I would

993
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: feel better than that eight and a half over under,

994
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: which sounds about right to me. And like it's not

995
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: card you know, a guy that hears the criticism. You know,

996
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: it's the fact that he's the fourth best best quarterback

997
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: in this division. That's not his fault. He's just in

998
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: a division with great quarterbacks and I think the Raiders

999
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of the position there in right now. And

1000
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood, he's one of those issues on the right

1001
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: side of the line, their first round pick last year.

1002
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of remarkable that they're even a

1003
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: team that you could incredibly talk about as a playoff team,

1004
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: both last year when they made it and again this

1005
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: season considering how many missus they had at the top

1006
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: of the draft. In the last few years, they've hit

1007
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: on other elements of team building. But Leatherwood and not

1008
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: to mark him down as a bust. It's only one year.

1009
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: It's just another example of that. The one thing I'll

1010
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: add is, you know, again, defensively, Max Krawl, he's as

1011
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: good as there isn't a league. It's just a pass

1012
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: rusher so too. And like like I said, I think

1013
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: I said it earlier. Um, but Chandler Jones is an

1014
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: upgrade and got Way was good last year. Chandeler Jones

1015
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: is an upgrade. And I think, you know, it's gonna

1016
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: be interesting because Gus, you know, having worked with Gus

1017
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: for for all those years, I got to see just

1018
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: how good of a communicator he is, how much the

1019
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: defense loves him. How said, there's a reason why he's

1020
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: been employed as long as he has, even though schemes

1021
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: have changed and a lot of people think what he

1022
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: does is outdated, but his defense is performed, you know,

1023
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: and he doesn't always have the best personnel to work

1024
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: with that That Raiders defense played league average last year,

1025
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: and they had no business play in league average with

1026
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: that secondary. You know. He brought in some guys that

1027
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: were practice squad guys on the Chargers, that were cast

1028
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: offs from the Chargers because they knew the system and

1029
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: he wanted them to be comfortable and they played well. Um,

1030
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: but Patrick Graham, I'll see how complicated is it? Is

1031
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: it the same as last year? But to me, like

1032
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: that's that's the one benefit they're gonna have is that

1033
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: pass rush is going to create turnovers. It's gonna give

1034
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: the offense extra opportunities in games. And I think that's

1035
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: how that eight and a half comes into play. And

1036
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: maybe it becomes a nine, you know, and maybe it

1037
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: becomes a ten, and now they're the team that's in

1038
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: third place and making the playoffs and and one of

1039
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: the other three ends up falling into that basement and

1040
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: doesn't get into the tournament. But the most important takeaway

1041
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: from this entire conversation to me, again, money I don't

1042
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: win there. Car sucks when eight seven year old Brent

1043
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: Musburger give her take a couple of years standing over

1044
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: you with brass knuckles on his right hand and you're

1045
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: you're laid out with a sword bleeding from your ear

1046
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: even and he's saying, jack pot, baby, what do you

1047
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: do next? I guess I just say, yeah, baby, jack Pot,

1048
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: babab raiders bab you. Brent is gone. You know, Brent

1049
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: is no longer. They're played by play man. No. Well,

1050
00:53:54,680 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: that that exercise totally. He retired this year. Yeah did oh?

1051
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: I never I missed that. That's heartbreaking Sunday night. I

1052
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: guess it had happened, all right. Well, Bran, thank you

1053
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: for the several hundred years of great broadcast. We really

1054
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: thank you for it. Um Money, we do thank you

1055
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. I would like to know,

1056
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: as we closed the book on this conversation, how many

1057
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: teams come out of this division and and are playing

1058
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: in January in the postseason. To you and who's coming

1059
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: in first. I know that's a tough one. It's such

1060
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: a gauntlet. Their their schedule is tough. Man. It's uh

1061
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: because it's NFC West. So you got the Rams and

1062
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: you got the Cardinals. You got to deal with Kyler

1063
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: Murray and you got the forty nine Ers. You know,

1064
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: you got the I think it's a f C South,

1065
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: so you'll have to contend with the physicality of Tennessee,

1066
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Matt Ryan and Frank Reich led col like.

1067
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: It's a tough schedule, um, for all these teams. I believe,

1068
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: h I believe I'm gonna go to come out. I

1069
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: know everyone's talking three or four. I'm gonna go two

1070
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: teams come out of here. Yeah, just like it did

1071
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: last year. I think that's the same. I think the

1072
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: the North, I believe the you know, I believe in

1073
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: the Bengals um, and I believe in in the Ravens um.

1074
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: You know what. No, I think it's three now that

1075
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm working through it, because I don't know. I don't

1076
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: think there's more than one in the East. Well, it

1077
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: could be four too, It could be that could be

1078
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: who's playing the home game in mid January. I know

1079
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: who it is. Who is it? Mark? Well, I'll tell

1080
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: you real quick. Here are my standings from the bottom up.

1081
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: Raiders eight and nine, Broncos and Chiefs both ten and seven.

1082
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: Only the Chiefs make the playoffs. The Chargers win the

1083
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: division at eleven and six. I think your order is

1084
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: probably what most people are coming down with, not to

1085
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: say your basic man mark, because you certainly are now.

1086
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would put Kansas City

1087
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: number one still, but it's it's are just season. It

1088
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: is it is, but there's a reason for it. I mean,

1089
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: the rosters is talented, yeah, but their quarterback was is

1090
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: a higher argument for me than late late stage Philip Rivers.

1091
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: And this year I think it's different. I don't think

1092
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: we got into it, did we. I'd like to me

1093
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: the thing that people are overlooking as Khalil Macinbosa, like

1094
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: I just I don't think anybody is putting enough into that.

1095
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is so regularly overlooked. He's so good against

1096
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: the run, and he is a wrecking machine against the past.

1097
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: And he's always double teamed because they've never had somebody

1098
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: opposite Even when Melvin Ingram was opposite him, he was

1099
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: always single covered. He was always single man. It was

1100
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: always bosted to get into double teams. So now that

1101
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: you have Khalil mack and go look at his numbers

1102
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: when he didn't have that foot injury, Look what he

1103
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: was doing. You think that it's not a coincidence that

1104
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn had a career year last year because most

1105
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: of those sacks came early on when Khalil Mack was

1106
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: opposite him. So now you've got Bosa paired with that,

1107
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: and you're rotating in Kyle van Noy, who's always got

1108
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: a floor of five to six sacks, you know, per season,

1109
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: and then you had j. C. Jackson on the back end.

1110
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 1: They've always had issues with their secondary and lack of depth,

1111
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: and now you know one of their starters for the

1112
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: last two years is gonna be their fourth cornerback. Like,

1113
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: it's just feels a lot different this year defensively. I

1114
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: would say also, if you like, outside of the Broncos

1115
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: offense with Russell Wilson plugged in, what Brandon Staley will

1116
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: do with this defense with the people they added in

1117
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: in another year, Like they've talked all this off season

1118
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: that there's so much more comfortable. I think he's probably

1119
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: poed about the way last season ended on defense for them,

1120
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: it will be the second most improved unit in the

1121
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: entire a f C West, and that makes them extremely dangerous.

1122
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: Let's see, it's also when we do the hot butt

1123
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Butt rankings a little later in the summer. I think

1124
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Stale is gonna be high up on that list

1125
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: because he needs performance. He needs his team to take

1126
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: the next step. In my opinion, Uh, we shall see

1127
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: if it happens. Ye, Hey, football gots, we'll see. I

1128
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 1: got sometimes you gotta hit him with the We shall

1129
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: see for seventeen weeks. Hey, it's a good job, Mikey, Yeah,

1130
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: we'll see. Good job for me, Dan, What do you got?

1131
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: Give it to me? What do you got? What do you?

1132
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: What do you get? What do you what do you?

1133
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: What do you got? Your shirt? What does it say?

1134
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: What do you got? Let me here? Everyone else, everybody

1135
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: else can turn it off. Now it's just gonna be

1136
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: uh me and money doing Chris Russo now for about

1137
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: twelve minutes. It's a good job by you. This is

1138
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: when we uh want to come to the twelfth hole.

1139
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: And I pulled out seven wood. I mean he came

1140
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: on our show and he when he I think he

1141
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: gave me that's a good job by you. And I

1142
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: was like essentially just done for when he first came

1143
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: on and Chris was still with us at Radio Row

1144
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: a few years back, after he wrapped, He's like, oh,

1145
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: just for you. Wow, that's tough. It's a good job

1146
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: by you guys. Fo huh so uh Petro some money

1147
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: uh supposed to be how uhi sixteen and a market

1148
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: like Los Angeles, You guys are incredible. Good job by you.

1149
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,479
Speaker 1: That's incredible. I didn't know that, my god with Royal

1150
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: p sixteen years in Los Angeles. Gotta what a what

1151
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: a life? You're just like, yeah, all right, we're gonna

1152
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little break here, as we said, going,

1153
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: uh take the week off, spend time with family and friends.

1154
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: Will be back on the other side of the July

1155
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: four week money. Thank you for joining us, baby uh

1156
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: baby jack pot baby h check out Petros and money

1157
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: and john NFL Network and hopefully money I mean you

1158
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: on Power Rankings come early September, and well we hope

1159
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: you're here. If not, Mark will just slide right in

1160
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: as the Power Rankings co host. And speaking of Mark,

1161
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: we have done a deep dive into the a f

1162
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: C West. Now Mark is going to dive deep within

1163
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: his own mind and offer some what would you call

1164
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: my market a meditation yes, and meditation yes, an a

1165
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: f C West based meditation to take us into our

1166
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: break So as we head into our break head into

1167
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: the mind's eye of the quiet Store, it is time

1168
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: now to let go, to relinquish concerns over career status, money,

1169
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: money's contract, hidden second families, et cetera, et cetera. Close

1170
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: your eyes and allow yourself to be guided by your

1171
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: inner being, that voice within that has always led you,

1172
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: that voice that wishes to tell you about a disturbing

1173
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: future development in the a f C. West. Please remember

1174
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: that an ancient Peruvian shamanistic practices, the leader of the

1175
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: tribe would kick off Peru's new year by sending one

1176
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: male infant down the river in a small dinghy made

1177
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: out of sticks, clay, and other business. You can bet

1178
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: your bottom dollar that male baby was never seen again.

1179
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: The parallel here is the much ballyhoo Denver Broncos. Instead

1180
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: of waltzing into Super Bowl fifty seven, their season ends

1181
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: abruptly in week eleven when the team plane vanishes into

1182
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: thin air somewhere over the Rocky Mountains. Three days later,

1183
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell receives the following text from Nathaniel Hackett. I

1184
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: just want to let you know what. We're fine, but

1185
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: the aircraft was apparently sucked into some sort of time

1186
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: space vortex. For lack of a better definition, I can't

1187
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: say for sure, but we appear to be in a

1188
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: version of Colorado from the very deep past. We've encountered

1189
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: a small tribe of mostly friendly, non English speaking natives

1190
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: who seem to believe that Special Teams Coordinator Dwyane Stukes

1191
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: is some sort of deity. We are subsisting primarily off

1192
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: these huge, luscious apples that fall like candy from the trees. Anyway,

1193
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: totally unsure if, when, if, and when will cycle back

1194
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: around to our threat of existing. Kind of a stupid situation,

1195
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: to be honest, Chow Broncos finish six and four, see

1196
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: you in a couple of weeks.