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Speaker 1: What do we have Crystal, Indeed, we do many things

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Speaker 1: that are happening to update you on. So a major

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Speaker 1: airstrike by the IDF and massacre in Rafa. We will

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Speaker 1: take you into what they are saying, what the US

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Speaker 1: a shooting incident between the Egyptian soldiers that are right

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Speaker 1: the Egyptian side dead. A lot of questions about what

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Speaker 1: the hell is going on there and where that might lead.

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Speaker 1: Another update for you on the great peer from the

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Speaker 1: can put this up on the screen. As I mentioned before,

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Speaker 1: a airstrike in an area of Rafa that the IDF

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Speaker 1: had previously designated as a quote unquote safe zone. And

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Speaker 1: you can see this area which was filled with tents

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Speaker 1: at least forty five people have been killed. You see,

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Speaker 1: I mean some of the images here are horrific. Here

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Speaker 1: just to reiterate, this is the place that Palestinians were

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Speaker 1: international condemnation. You even had a critical look at what

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Diamond had to say on the scene.

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Speaker 5: At least forty five people were killed after an Israeli

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Speaker 5: air strike targeted this camp for displaced Palestinians in western Ruffa.

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Speaker 5: According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, plastic tarps engulfed

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Speaker 5: block of makeshift shelters flattened in an instant. The Israeli

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Speaker 5: military says the strike killed two senior Hamas militants who

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Speaker 5: in a rare move. The Israeli military's top lawyer launching

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Speaker 5: an investigation into the strike, saying civilian casualties had not

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Speaker 5: been expected. Mohammed Abu Atawi is one of those civilians,

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Speaker 5: But there are so many more, so many children writhing

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Speaker 5: those who survived, whatever thin sense of safety they still

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Speaker 5: had has now been completely shattered. We were sitting and

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Speaker 5: suddenly there was a big blast and fire. People started screaming,

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Speaker 5: charred bodies out of the embers. While hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 5: there are many others like this man displaced from central Gaza,

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Speaker 5: came here to western Ruffa. Told the area would be safe.

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Speaker 4: Told the area would be safe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just honestly unimaginable what these people are experiencing.

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Speaker 1: Their headline is dozens reported killed and Israeli strike on Rafa.

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Speaker 1: A few quotes from people who were there. One witness said,

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Speaker 1: Suddenly we heard the sound of a missile. We ran

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Speaker 1: he and others saw a girl and a young man

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Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 1: The Israeli Army is a liar. There is no security

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Speaker 1: in Gaza. There is no security, not for a child,

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Speaker 1: an elderly man or a woman. This of course comes

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Speaker 1: on the heels of that icj latest injunction Ryan covered

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Speaker 1: this as breaking news.

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Speaker 4: Over the weekend, they had demanded.

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Speaker 1: That the Israeli Defense Forces that they comply with a

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Speaker 1: ceasefire in Rafa. Now these railers are claiming no, no,

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Speaker 1: they didn't really say ceasefire. The language from that top

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Speaker 1: Court of the UN said that quote in conformity with

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Speaker 1: its obligations under the Genocide Convention, Israel must immediately halt

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Speaker 1: its military offensive and any other action in the Rafa

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Speaker 1: conditions of life that could bring about its physical destruction

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Speaker 1: We also had a range of shifting explanations for what

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Speaker 1: the hell happened here, So we can put this up

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Speaker 1: on the screen from the Israelis. First you have the

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Speaker 1: IDF bragging about what they had done. Here the original

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Speaker 1: out in intelligence based precise strike that targeted senior Hamas

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Speaker 1: Terraris in tal As Sultan, that is the area that

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Speaker 1: was hit. Contrary to Hamasa's lies and misinformation, the strike

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Speaker 1: did not take place in the al Mwasie humanitarian area. Well,

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Speaker 1: no one said it was in al Mawasi, but it

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Speaker 1: a precise strike. Once there was really global outrage, including

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Speaker 1: the airstrike in Rafa on Sunday was a quote tragic

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Speaker 1: mistake and adds that it will be investigated. Saber, I

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Speaker 1: broadcasting for months they're going to assault Rafa, they've massacred

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Speaker 1: already tens of thousands of civilians.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that because it didn't even have

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Speaker 2: in terms of people were told to flee here, dozens

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Speaker 2: were killed, and then their initial response just so clearly

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Speaker 2: does not comport. It was very similar to the strike

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Speaker 2: on that refugee camp. For example, about what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: I have here in front of me, Emmanuel Macrone, the

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Speaker 2: President of France, outraged by these Raeli strikes that have

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Speaker 2: killed many displaced persons in Rafa. These operations must stop.

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Speaker 2: There are no safe areas in Rafa for Palestinian civilians.

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Speaker 2: I call for full respect of international law and in

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Speaker 2: immediate ceasefire. So for the President of France or the

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Speaker 2: Great European Nations to be coming out in this, on

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Speaker 2: top of ICJ, on top of ICC, I mean, we're

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Speaker 2: just seeing a constraining of a lot of the international

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Speaker 2: space at Israel was previously able to move in. You

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Speaker 2: mentioned here the White House. We can put that up

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Speaker 2: there on the screen. I'm not really sure what else

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Speaker 2: to make this. I'll just read it. Everybody says, the

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Speaker 2: devisiting images followed the IDF strike in Rafa last night

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Speaker 2: that killed dozens of Palestinians are heartbreaking. Israel has a

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Speaker 2: right to go after Hamas, but as we've been clear,

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Speaker 2: Israel must take every precaution possible to protect civilians. We're

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Speaker 2: actively engaging IDF and partners on the ground to assess

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Speaker 2: what's happening. So we're assessing, we're investigating. I believe the

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Speaker 2: IDs says that they're investigating as well. Here is the thing,

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Speaker 2: and this is why it exposes a lot of what's happening.

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Speaker 2: You told people to move there, and then you said

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Speaker 2: there're two Hamas terrorists there. It's like, okay, Well, in

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Speaker 2: any other military in the world, that wouldn't even be

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Speaker 1: and officially recognize Palestine as a state. So you have

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Speaker 1: whatever levers of international pressure there are have been pulled

437
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Speaker 1: outside of the US actually doing something and not this

438
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Speaker 1: you know, pretend to have a red line but then

439
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Speaker 1: it's not an actual red line, etc. So you know,

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Speaker 1: the silence is deafening from the Biden White House at

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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 4: These are the people who were, you.

443
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Speaker 1: Know, rush to put on a statement every time some

444
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Speaker 1: kid on a college campus said something that was like

445
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Speaker 1: a little bit off color. And now you have forty

446
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Speaker 1: five Palestinians massacred, engulfed in flames, hundreds more injured, and

447
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Speaker 1: not a word, not a single word astonishing.

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Speaker 3: Let's turn over to Egypt.

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Speaker 2: But this is a very very troubling situation, and speaking

450
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Speaker 2: of international ramifications, this may actually be the most important one.

451
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Speaker 2: Let's go and put this up there on the screens.

452
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Speaker 2: A very sketchy incident that happened between Israel and Egypt.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Egypt said one of its border guards had been killed

455
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Speaker 2: at the Rafa crossing in Gaza after reports of an

456
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Speaker 2: exchange of fire between the two militaries. Israel confirmed quote

457
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Speaker 2: a shooting incident had taken place on the border on Monday,

458
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Speaker 2: saying that it was quote under review and the discussions

459
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Speaker 2: are being held with the Egyptians. The Egyptian Armed Forces

460
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Speaker 2: say that they are investigating the incident. An Egyptian official

461
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Speaker 2: is trying to play down the shooting, saying it was

462
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Speaker 2: quote minor and of no political significance. But we do

463
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Speaker 2: have an Egyptian border guard who was killed. Now, the

464
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Speaker 2: circumstances of which fire was even exchanged is really unclear

465
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Speaker 2: right now, But the reason why this is very important

466
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Speaker 2: is that we have to separate a couple of things out.

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Speaker 2: Egypt is a military dictatorship, and the way that their

468
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Speaker 2: government response is obviously profoundly important. But Egypt is also

469
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Speaker 2: a very proud country with tens of millions of people

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Speaker 2: who live there and who can read the news, and

471
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Speaker 2: who have been increasingly upset about the Israeli action on Gaza.

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Speaker 2: When we combine that with an Egyptian military, an Egyptian

473
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Speaker 2: border guard who was killed here in some sort of

474
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Speaker 2: crossfire incident, this is the first confirmed death in exchange

475
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Speaker 2: of fire now for a long time. Now, let's put

476
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Speaker 2: this up here on the screen, because this is what's

477
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Speaker 2: very important. All of this is in the context of

478
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Speaker 2: the collapse really of the nineteen seventy nine Camp David treaty,

479
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Speaker 2: because deploying more than four infantry battalions or positioning tanks

480
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Speaker 2: artillery is already a breach of Camp David, and Israel

481
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Speaker 2: currently has that entire division that is operating along the

482
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Speaker 2: Egyptian border, and as tensions between the two increased. We

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what prompted the exchange of fire here,

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Speaker 2: but you know, we can guess it was probably something

485
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Speaker 2: some sort of incident, maybe either trigger happy. Regardless, both

486
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Speaker 2: sides have not released any information, and Crystal the worrying

487
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Speaker 2: part of this is that any flare up of kinetic

488
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Speaker 2: action between the two. I mean, it's almost difficult to describe,

489
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Speaker 2: like how important this is and why we focus on

490
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Speaker 2: it now. For several months, all US foreign policy nineteen

491
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Speaker 2: forty eight to basically nineteen seventy nine was how do

492
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Speaker 2: we stop the Egyptians in Israelis from fighting each other?

493
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Speaker 2: Camp David was one of the greatest achievements of US

494
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Speaker 2: foreign policy that had a long lasting consensus. We had

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Speaker 2: the peacekeepers in the Sinai decades of conflict that was

496
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Speaker 2: in the region, we almost went to it had full

497
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Speaker 2: blown nuclear change during the Yamkapor War. Encourage people to

498
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Speaker 2: go and to read about that. This is an area

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Speaker 2: of deep tension and the people involved have not forgotten

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Speaker 2: about that. Now it's been you know, basically we've paid

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Speaker 2: them off. We keep paying three billion dollars a year

502
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Speaker 2: to each try and keep peace. But this conflict has

503
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Speaker 2: bubbled things up to the surface, and as we all

504
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Speaker 2: learned in twenty eleven, things can explode at any time

505
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Speaker 2: in this area, and we do not want to see

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Speaker 2: incidents that are like this.

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Speaker 1: So Camp David basically took Egypt off the table in

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Speaker 1: terms of being a military defender and pursuer of the

509
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Speaker 1: Palestinian cause. Obviously in the West, it was in his

510
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Speaker 1: Herald of Jimmy Carter won Nobel Peace Prize for those

511
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Speaker 1: negotiations in the Arab world, and on the Palestinian side

512
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Speaker 1: view very differently because again basically put Egypt in the

513
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Speaker 1: US corner, and with the amount of money that we

514
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Speaker 1: send them, you know, send in Israel, huge amounts and

515
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Speaker 1: Egypt is just down the list from them. That means

516
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Speaker 1: that we basically get our way and get what we

517
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Speaker 1: want with regard to Israel when it comes to the Egyptians.

518
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Speaker 1: So there is a huge disconnect between the Egyptian political

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Speaker 1: leadership and these you know, ranked file soldiers who were

520
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Speaker 1: there on the border, probably all of whom are deeply

521
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Speaker 1: sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and are now seeing this

522
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Speaker 1: slaughter that is happening there in Rafa right on their border.

523
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Speaker 1: So we don't know exactly what happened here both sides

524
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Speaker 1: of the you know, political story here in terms of

525
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Speaker 1: Egyptian leadership and Israeli leadership are downplaying the incident. They're saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll look into it. This was, you know,

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Speaker 1: not a big deal effectively, is what they're saying. The

528
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Speaker 1: reports on the ground are that Palestinian resistance fighters were

529
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Speaker 1: somehow involved in this as well. So you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well did the Egyptians come to their defense? What exactly

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Speaker 1: is going on here? There were rumors of a second

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Speaker 1: incident in which was being reported by Egyptian media sources,

533
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Speaker 1: in which IDF soldiers may have been killed. Those have

534
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Speaker 1: not been confirmed, but worth you know, putting out there

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Speaker 1: that there may have been a separate, additional incident conflict

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Speaker 1: between the Egyptian military and the IDF.

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Speaker 4: So it shows you.

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Speaker 1: You know, something we've been talking about for a long time,

539
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Speaker 1: which is the extraordinary tension that is bubbling right here

540
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Speaker 1: that could have additional follow on chaotic fallout here that

541
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Speaker 1: is very difficult to predict how this would all go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and you know, in terms of again what

543
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Speaker 2: we know about all of this, it is all just

544
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Speaker 2: continues to be sketchy. There was a similar thing that happened.

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Speaker 2: Let's put this up there, please, because these are some

546
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Speaker 2: of the details that we can give you. It says

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Speaker 2: that Israeli soldiers from the four to or first armor

548
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Speaker 2: grade attempted to cross a site near Rafa, claiming to

549
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Speaker 2: be quote, pursuing saboteurs is some of the detail. They

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Speaker 2: say that the Egyptian forces then engage with them. According

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Speaker 2: to them, they actually killed an Israeli soldier and injured

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Speaker 2: seven others, three of them. Critically, this is based on

553
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Speaker 2: Egyptian news reports. Now, the Israelis have not released any

554
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Speaker 2: killed Israeli soldier or seven who are injured. Now that

555
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Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean that it's not true. They then say

556
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Speaker 2: that they were treated behind a barrier and reported their

557
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Speaker 2: incident to security commanders in Tel Aviv, who then began

558
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Speaker 2: communication with Cairo. This just demonstrates that the taking over

559
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Speaker 2: of that crossing was already an extraordinary international incident. Egypt

560
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Speaker 2: actually retaliated in terms of aid. They also have been

561
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Speaker 2: bearing a lot of the brunt in terms of funneling

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Speaker 2: of humanitarian aid. They are a critical part of a

563
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Speaker 2: lot of these peace negotiations which are happening right now.

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Speaker 2: Just looked and saw the current parties that is currently

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Speaker 2: happening with regards to that hostage deal. Egypt is party

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Speaker 2: to the latest whatever proposal that has been put forward.

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Speaker 2: So this is Qatar, Egypt, and the United States. Just

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Speaker 2: again to underscore how critical the Egyptians are. So when

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Speaker 2: we have a dead, you know, Egyptian soldier, I just

570
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Speaker 2: want to say, the Egyptian military may not care. They

571
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Speaker 2: say it's not of political consequence, but the Egyptian people

572
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Speaker 2: may certainly care when one of their guys is killed,

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Speaker 2: and it could lead to more pressure on a lot

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Speaker 2: of these places. That's just the problem is that we

575
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Speaker 2: tend to think of these Gulf dictatorships or these Arab dictatorships.

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Speaker 3: As top down.

577
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Speaker 2: But what we all learned is that actually the people,

578
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Speaker 2: you know, in twenty eleven, they certainly can make their

579
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Speaker 2: voices heard, and that a lot of these regimes, the

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Speaker 2: way that they keep their power is by balancing popular opinion.

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Speaker 2: And if the popular opinion starts to really go against them,

582
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Speaker 2: you'll see that even though the Saudis, look, the Saudis

583
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Speaker 2: want to just wash their hands.

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Speaker 3: They don't care about Palestine.

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Speaker 2: They just want the government at least they want to

586
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Speaker 2: make a deal with Israel, get all their weapons and

587
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Speaker 2: move on. But their people, and there's tens of millions

588
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Speaker 2: of people live in Saudi Arabia, they're not cool with

589
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Speaker 2: that at all. UAE is very similar. So a lot

590
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Speaker 2: of these people have to balance that popular opinion with

591
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Speaker 2: their policy. And that's actually what's constraining again even more

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Speaker 2: and more. It's isolating the United States, let alone Israel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Jordanians even to a greater extent,

594
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Speaker 1: because again, this is the country that we sent a

595
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Speaker 1: lot of aid to so that they'll do our bidding.

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Speaker 1: It's also a country with a massive Palestinian refugee population.

597
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Speaker 1: The Queen is Palestinian, is huge Palastinian influence in terms

598
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Speaker 1: of the population, a huge disconnect between the population and

599
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Speaker 1: the political leadership. So that's why you see the political

600
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Speaker 1: leadership will put out these statements that are very sympathetic

601
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Speaker 1: to the Palestinian cause, but they don't actually do anything

602
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Speaker 1: about it. That's their attempt to try to placate public

603
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Speaker 1: sentiment in their countries because even though you know, these

604
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Speaker 1: aren't democracies in any real sense of the word, they still.

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Speaker 4: Are subject to those pressures.

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Speaker 1: So here you have an extraordinary situation where again the

607
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Speaker 1: you know Egyptian soldiers who are charged with being there

608
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Speaker 1: on the border and who are seeing with their own

609
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Speaker 1: eyes the horror that's being inflicted on Palestinians. A group

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Speaker 1: of people with whom they don't share deep sympathy, may

611
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Speaker 1: not share the same political priorities that the Egyptian leadership does.

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Speaker 1: So this is one to keep an eye on, one

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Speaker 1: to watch for sure exactly.

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Speaker 2: Now let's get to the peer, because this is in

615
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Speaker 2: terms of collapse of the American Empire and collapse of

616
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Speaker 2: late stage republic behavior. Well, there's just been a series

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Speaker 2: of very troubling incidents after this Gaza peer has just

618
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Speaker 2: turned into a full fledged disaster.

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Speaker 3: We have video now of this peer.

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Speaker 2: Parts of the peer actually broke off from the floating

621
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: pier that was humanitarian drifted then onto the beach. You

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Speaker 2: saw clearly there US military personnel with their boots on

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Speaker 2: the ground in Gaza. Then you also had members of

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Speaker 2: the Israel Israeli defense forces who were there, I guess

625
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Speaker 2: securing these forces. You see two of them drifting there

626
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Speaker 2: off in the ocean. In terms of what actually happened,

627
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Speaker 2: the details of this are just shocking. So according to

628
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Speaker 2: the Pentagon, two of the pieces separately floated away. Then

629
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Speaker 2: one of the boats, the craft that was sent to

630
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Speaker 2: retrieve this piece of the floating pier itself got tangled up.

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Speaker 2: We have picture here, let's put this video. I mean,

632
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Speaker 2: this is shocking. Look at this. So this is another

633
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Speaker 2: piece actually that happened separately of the floating pier that

634
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Speaker 2: broke loose and then actually began to sink into the ocean.

635
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Speaker 2: This was taken from a higher vantage point from the ocean,

636
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Speaker 2: so you could see from the beach there we have

637
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Speaker 2: three separate pieces that were all drifting apart. And the

638
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: Pentagon statement, I mean, just strains credulity. Let's put this

639
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Speaker 2: up there. Just shocking. Honestly. They say a small US

640
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: military vessel was towing the floating pier back to the port.

641
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: Due to poor sea conditions, it got disconnected and then

642
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: ran aground. A separate US vessel then went to try

643
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Speaker 2: and rescue it, but was also beach after a cable

644
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: got caught in the propeller. US is working with Israel

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00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: to get both vessels back out to sea. And what

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Speaker 2: I was saying to you Chrystal before this is look,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a nautical guy.

648
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Speaker 3: I don't know a lot. I've watched some episodes of Blowdeck.

649
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Speaker 2: What I do know is that even on pleasure yachts

650
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Speaker 2: in the Mediterranian making sure that the line doesn't get

651
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Speaker 2: caught in the propeller is.

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Speaker 3: One of the most basic elements of seamanship.

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Speaker 2: Now, I am not putting down our great sailors. What

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Speaker 2: I am more saying is that this is an institutional

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Speaker 2: crisis of competence. And I was explaining this to you yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Our Navy has a severe readiness problem. One of the

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Speaker 2: pride and joys of the US military, the US Navy specifically,

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Speaker 2: is fire control. There have been several very troubling incidents

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Speaker 2: from the US Navy lately which raised a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions to how they would actually be able to operate

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Speaker 2: in actual peer to peer conflict. We've had multiple horrible incidents,

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Speaker 2: if guys will recall, not that long ago, there were

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Speaker 2: multiple crashes that happened where two ships crashed into each other.

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Speaker 2: Sailors were actually killed, you know, as a result of this.

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Speaker 2: So there is a huge training and institutional problem. Not

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Speaker 2: to mention the fact that this peer is already some

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars over budget. So this

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Speaker 2: is a nearly half a billion dollar boondoggle that has happened.

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Speaker 2: Now we can forget incompetence, I think if it is

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Speaker 2: all to achieve let's say a noble end, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it may seem like this is a noble end, but

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Speaker 2: the problem has been that we have basically, you know,

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Speaker 2: are we have taken this humanitarian peer. The US taxpayer

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Speaker 2: is eating the cost of all of this, including the AID,

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Speaker 2: when it is still at best only able to deliver

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Speaker 2: some ten percent of the amount of aid that's supposed

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Speaker 2: to go in. The easiest way to get the aid

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Speaker 2: in is to just let trucks into the gaza strip.

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Speaker 2: But so US foreign policy, instead of pressuring a foreign

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Speaker 2: government who we pay billions and billions and billions of

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Speaker 2: dollars to to just let that aid in, is instead

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Speaker 2: basically eating the cost over here and putting multiple of

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Speaker 2: our service members at risk. We already have three people

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Speaker 2: who have been injured as a result of this, one

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Speaker 2: of whom is in critical condition. And of course, by

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Speaker 2: the way they are keeping the lid on, they just

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Speaker 2: say it is a non combat related injurant, like, well,

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Speaker 2: what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Was it with this you know, did.

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Speaker 2: Somebody fall off, Because you know, if somebody gets killed

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Speaker 2: out doing something dangerous, even if it's you know, trying

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Speaker 2: to drag the peerback or something like that, you're still

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Speaker 2: putting them at risk. So this is a this is

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Speaker 2: a real highlight of when we put people out there,

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Speaker 2: we put our people forward, there's always something that goes wrong,

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Speaker 2: Murphy's law, high level of institutional problems, and overall, this

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Speaker 2: really exposes a lot of the you know, the bigger,

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Speaker 2: big picture things with relating to this conflict.

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Speaker 1: It's just like insanity and incompetence on every level. It's just,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't even know what to say about it.

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Speaker 1: At this point. I was recalling with you that when

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Speaker 1: the initial ship set out from I think it was

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Speaker 1: down in Virginia Beach area from Norfolk, they had to

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Speaker 1: turn back because there was some problem with the ship.

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Speaker 4: So you have that.

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Speaker 1: Then they get there, people are getting injured, there's bad

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Speaker 1: sea conditions. Who could foresee that things are floating away.

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Speaker 1: The vessel that goes to retrieve it gets beached on

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Speaker 1: the shore, like what the hell? And then to your point, Sager,

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Speaker 1: and this is the most probably significant point basically now

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Speaker 1: we have sort of taken the burden off of Babie

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Speaker 1: and said we'll do it. We'll handle the aid. Don't worry.

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Speaker 1: We got it right if you look. I saw yesterday

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Speaker 1: a chart we should have made it for the show

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Speaker 1: but didn't have time, but a chart of the amount

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Speaker 1: of aid going into Gaza in the month of May.

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Speaker 1: Since since the Magnificent Humanitarian Peer was constructed, the amount

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Speaker 1: of aid has plummeted, plummeted. It is unreal the minimal

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Speaker 1: amount that is getting into the Gaza Strip when you

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Speaker 1: already have northern Gaza in famine. All indications from the

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Speaker 1: UN are that famine is spreading, and at the same time,

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Speaker 1: the amount of aid that has actually come in is

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Speaker 1: falling off a cliff. We know Israel had closed multiple

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Speaker 1: border crossings. We know this whole time that they have

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Speaker 1: been using every trick in the book that they possibly

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Speaker 1: can to slow the flow of aid. So, rather than

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Speaker 1: doing the obvious thing, which is forcing our Israeli parts

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Speaker 1: to actually get aid and allow aid into the Gaza strip, instead,

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Speaker 1: we have taken this burden on in the most insane

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Speaker 1: possible way, at great cost, at great risk, and doing

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Speaker 1: it by the way incredibly ineffectively and incompetently, something that

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Speaker 1: Ken Klippenstein has been covering this for a while on

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Speaker 1: newho we had on the show last week mentioned which

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Speaker 1: is important to remember as well in terms of the

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Speaker 1: danger to our service members. This Peer was intentionally constructed

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Speaker 1: to the extend that still exists, was intentionally constructed close

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Speaker 1: to an IDF military base that has been constructed in Gaza,

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Speaker 1: which is a legitimate military target for Hamas or any

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Speaker 1: other Palestinian resistance. So this was constructed in a very

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Speaker 1: dangerous area in terms of our service members, and they're

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Speaker 1: getting washed up on the shore and sitting ducks here

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Speaker 1: as well. So just total insanity.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I saw somebody say the.

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Speaker 1: Sinking Peer video is like the perfect emblem for Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's presidency and political campaign, and I think that that

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Speaker 1: is pretty well.

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Speaker 3: See. Yeah, and let's put this up there on the screen.

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Speaker 2: Like we said about our own troops, three have been

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Speaker 2: hospitalized non combat related injuries, one in critical condition at

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Speaker 2: in Israeli hospital. Unclear what the circumstances are. It seems

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Speaker 2: like clearly something went wrong because two of the other

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Speaker 2: troops that have a sprain ankle and a minor back injury.

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Speaker 2: One of the admiral US Vice Admiral for Central Command

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Speaker 2: says that two were quote very minor routine injuries. They

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Speaker 2: have now returned to duty. The other one was injured

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Speaker 2: on ship at sea. Medical evacuated to a hospital in Israel.

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Speaker 2: Speaking on the condition of anonymity, just said that they

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Speaker 2: were in critical condition. So we hope that they are okay,

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Speaker 2: and we just have less people who are put in

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Speaker 2: harm's way for no discernible purpose. That's really where it

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Speaker 2: all comes back to. This is a political stunt. Troops

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Speaker 2: are now at risk. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars have been wasted for what, you know,

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Speaker 2: we can forgive it if it's you know, let's say

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Speaker 2: we had a couple boondoggles on D Day. We were

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Speaker 2: trying to do something there like, that's not what this is,

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Speaker 2: and that's really what I just keep going back to

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Speaker 2: the high level of incompetence, putting our people at risk,

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Speaker 2: not even solving the problem that we have a probably

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Speaker 2: the perfect emblem for the Joe Biden presidency,