1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: What's up to everybody? And welcome to another edition of 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: the Falcons Final Whistle podcast. I'm Scott bar with Tory 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: mclaney and Chris rim And not only is this the 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: next edition of Falcon's Final Whistle, it's a special edition 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: of Falcons Final Whistle. We are coming to you live 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: from Indianapolis, Indiana, where it's a balmy thirty five degrees outside. No, no, no, 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: that's that's false. That's false. It's actually not that bad. 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: It's actually media off the top of the wow calumny 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: on the carpet already. I was wearing a big jacket 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: that I thought was necessary. Maybe I was factoring in 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the wind chill. Right, it's like a solid like fifty degrees. 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm from San Diego. Okay, leave me alone. Georgia literally 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: says sixty two right now. Yeah, the real field can 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: be sixty two, but it says in sixty two, y'all 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: aren't gonna let me start this over high, like we're 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: just gonna let my uh wow, you got to keep going, man, 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: and then in the next life hang out there for everyone. 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Nonetheless, off the rails. In less than 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: five minutes, we've set a new record for non sequiturs. Anyway, 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: we are in Indianapolis, Indiana. The weather is up for 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: debate in terms of its impact and but okay, but 22 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: the bottom line is that we've spent most of our 23 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: time indoors. That was gonna be my segue until it 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: was destroyed. It's been most of our time indoors talking 25 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: to Arthur Smith and Terry Fontneau about the state of 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the Falcons as we head towards free agency and what 27 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: they need to do, and obviously asked about some major 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: players that are still on this roster and what needs 29 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: to get set up because it's crazy. We're at the 30 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: combine and people are focused on draft prospects, but they're 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: going to start signing veterans in like very soon. March 32 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: sixteenth is the new league year. There's a lot of 33 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: tasks that have yet to be completed for Arthur Smith 34 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: and Terry Fontow. We're going to break down everything that 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: those guys had to say moving forward throughout the throughout 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the course of this podcast, before we get to some 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: of the bigger topics that were discussed, there was also 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: the issue of Matt Ryan and Calvin Ridley that's been 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: routinely asked at every press availability since December of Terry 40 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: and Arthur one right about the status of Calvin Ridley 41 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan's long term future. It will surprise no 42 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: one in this listening audience that Terry and Arthur had 43 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: no official update on Calvin Ridley, but als said that 44 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: they understand the frustrations of why people want to know, 45 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: but they can't discuss it at this time, and they 46 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: promised to at a more appropriate time. And then with 47 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, we got pretty typical stuff, I think, with 48 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: some stronger and more colorful language. Arthur Smith said that 49 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: basically that they anticipate having Matt Ryan on the team. 50 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: So you could take that part of the quote, or 51 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: if you want to have fun on social media, you 52 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: can take the other part of the quote, which is 53 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: to say we anticipate having him on the team unless 54 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: we get an offer we can't refuse. So you picked 55 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: your headline right. So nonetheless, Chris, let's start with you 56 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: your impressions on the non news with Calvin Ridley, Like, 57 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: what did you take from what you heard about Ridley 58 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan? Yeah, I think they seemed like don't 59 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to exaggerate it, but I feel like 60 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: they seemed a little bit more talkative than I expected 61 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: in terms of Arthur Smith and Terry. Not to say 62 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: that they were like super abnormal, that they were saying 63 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but I just I didn't respect 64 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: are there to say multiple times that if there's an offer, 65 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: because he's never said that, um to that He's been 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: asked the question, but he's never said that, and you 67 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: and I think oftentimes I wonder, you know, these guys, 68 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: aren't I don't. I don't want to think I'm smarter 69 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: than these guys. But they both said things here where 70 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: there was more media, national media, and they both said 71 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: things that they've never said before while being asked questions 72 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: that they've been asked before. So whether it was Arthur 73 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: saying that comment, is saying it twice, were knowing that 74 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: it was within a full quote and it was essentially 75 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: what he's already said without saying it, but he said 76 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: it explicitly, and then Terry saying we have four these 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: these things in the room, elephants in the room that 78 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: we'll get into and how we have four guys who 79 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: are who take up a lot of money, particularly our 80 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: quarterback like that. He hasn't said that explicitly before. So 81 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: that just stood out to me that the things that 82 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: they said and why they chose the same today, it 83 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: was interesting. Yeah, I have my head range, which is 84 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: now something that I'm going to start doing every single 85 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: time I have something to say, so that we're not 86 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: like talking over each other, because I tend to do 87 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: that a lot. I tend to interrupt. I've been listening 88 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: back on our pods and I'm like, oh, my gosh, 89 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: like I should just just let Scott and Chris talk, 90 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, any whom. So. Something that I thought was 91 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: really interesting about everything that Terry and Arthur said today 92 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: was how little it actually had to do with the combine. 93 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious. We were talking after they like 94 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: after Terry and Arthur did their podium speak and then 95 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: they also came over and talked to local media, and 96 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: it was just so funny to me how we were 97 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: talking to them about free agency, salary cap resigning, potential 98 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: free agents, like what dominoes need to fall, like all 99 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Very we talked to very little 100 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: about the combine, And I think that is so to 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: talk about because I think It's such a good example 102 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: of where the Falcons organization is as a whole that 103 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: we are at the combine and we are talking about 104 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: salary cap constraints, free agency, and I think it's really important. 105 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: I think it goes to something that Scott I know, 106 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: is going to be working on, is like how all 107 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: of these things work collectively together, and one thing doesn't 108 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: happen without something else, Like you have to have the 109 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: money to sign your draft class, so you gotta go 110 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: and you gotta restructure some contracts. If you want to 111 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: resign this free agent, you got to do this. I 112 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: mean that to me. I thought it was very evident 113 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: in everything that Arthur Smith and Terry Fonte were talking 114 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: about at the combine. Yeah, and just to address that, 115 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Calvin really thinks specifically because it's such a a flashpoint 116 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: topic around the league. There's been a couple of national 117 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: reports in the last seven days about it. Is the 118 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is is it continues to be 119 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: no update. I think Terry, again back to Chris's point, 120 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: that they knew they were in front of a national 121 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: media audience with all eyes pointed towards them, with every 122 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: reporter covering the NFL and basically on a a planet Earth, 123 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: they're in front of them, and you know, to really say, hey, 124 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: we understand the frustration. We understand that people want answers 125 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: that we can't give right now. And I think that 126 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: that's a fair thing to say. And while we have 127 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: to keep asking, and I think they appreciate the fact 128 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: that we have to keep asking, it's their right to say, 129 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: hey man, we can't really go too far into this. 130 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: The one thing that I would anticipate is that there 131 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: needs to be some resolution at some point. And that's 132 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: not just because there's eleven and a plus million dollars 133 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: with this receiver, or the fact that I think Calvin 134 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: Ridley is an amazing talent. Go read Chris Ram's story 135 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: about him as a routrunner, him as a football player. 136 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: He's incredible, And I think all those things factor into it. 137 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: And everybody wants to know where he is going to land, 138 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: and they're trying to interject and speculate, and I think 139 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: that's one thing we've done a good job of not 140 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: doing right not trying to say why, you know, might 141 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: he want to fresh start? Why are they saying this 142 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: or that, and just kind of presenting here's the situation. 143 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Here's why it's a huge deal. I think we understand it. 144 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: We know you as fans want to know more. And 145 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: this is just me talking here. I think that the 146 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: Falcons and maybe Calvin needs some resolution at some point. 147 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: This is just me talking here, right that at some 148 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: point that it's that it has to get kind of 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: figured out so the Falcons understand where their needs are, 150 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: where their priorities are, how much money they have to 151 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: spend moving forward, and that will continue to be a 152 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: major storyline until something is decided and more and there 153 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: are finally news updates. So with all that being said, 154 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: we're going to address a lot of kind of big 155 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: picture stuff. As Tory pointed out, Yeah, we're at the combine, 156 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: not a lot of draft talk yet. So we're going 157 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: to talk about what Terry Fontina talked about, what Chris 158 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: to the elephants in the room, which is a lot 159 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: of big, heavy elephants with big, heavy cap numbers. So 160 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about kind 161 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: of free agency and the fact that the Falcons were 162 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: making some sales pitches here at the combine, and also 163 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: about what maybe they have to do some hard choices 164 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: and decisions to try to open up catch space and 165 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: what kind of timeline that they have to follow to 166 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: get all those things done. But before we do that, 167 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: the big thank you to our sponsor, Microsoft, Windows eleven, 168 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: the official operating system of the NFL and the Atlanta Falcons. 169 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: The all new Windows eleven is here to bring you 170 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: closer to what you love. Like this Falcons Final Whistle Podcast. 171 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: Learn all about the awesome new features of Windows eleven 172 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: at Windows dot com. So let's get to the elephants 173 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: in the room. I thought it was a very descriptive, Chris. 174 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: I thought you wrote a great story about what Terry 175 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: Fonto was referring to. So I'll just put it out 176 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: there on a t for you here give fans some 177 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: ground about what he was saying and kind of what 178 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: he meant addressing those elephants. Yeah, well he was pretty 179 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: obvious in talking about the four elephants. I mean, you 180 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: could you go and say they have maybe well more 181 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: than four about they're definitely four elephants. With you got 182 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: four guys who are at least twenty million dollars cap 183 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: hits this year and Dion Jones, Jake Matthews, Grady, Jared 184 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan, and he pointed out the biggest, the 185 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: humungous elephant, the biggest elephant in the NFL, and Matt Ryan. 186 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: He made him stand alone in terms of saying, you know, 187 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: particularly our quarterback. So it was it was Terryfi, I know, 188 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: the general manager, who mentioned that, and I think essentially 189 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: what he was just saying was that, you know, we 190 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: know what the conversation is around our team, we know 191 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: what fans are talking about, we understand what's going on. 192 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: And what he also said was we want to have 193 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: our cake and eat it too. So the focus could 194 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: easily trade all four of those players and come out with, 195 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: you know, looking good for the future, maybe with a 196 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: lot of picks, with a lot of space under the 197 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: under the salary cap. The team could look completely different, 198 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: but the Falcons wouldn't be competitive or at least as 199 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: competitive as they could be with those players. So what 200 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: Terry was essentially saying to me, and I think to 201 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: everyone who heard it and maybe read the story, is 202 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: that we're gonna find ways to navigate this cap situation, 203 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: to navigate our four elephants. However we do that. He 204 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: mentioned either converting money, whether it's cutting people, whether it's 205 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: making trades, specifically getting value on inexpensive one year deals 206 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: free agents, and we'll get to that with a story 207 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: that Tori wrote, but maximizing that we're going to make 208 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: sure that we're competitive and we are rebuilding for the future. 209 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: So this summer that looks like the Falcons not being 210 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: big spenders on day one, not being big spenders in 211 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: the early part of free agency, similarly to last year, 212 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: being patient, having that patience to say we can't do 213 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: that right now because we have to look towards the 214 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: future and kind of work with what we have now. 215 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: But we still want to compete. He said, specifically, you know, 216 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: we're not working to win another game next year. We're 217 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: working to build a championship roster. A championship he didn't 218 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: used the word culture, but a championship roster, so a 219 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: team that could compete long term versus we went all 220 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: in this summer and we got a big player, but 221 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: it only translated into one win and it didn't move 222 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: the needle much. So what I thought he said was 223 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: it seemed like pragmatic and it made sense in terms 224 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: of how to look at the Falcons, and I thought 225 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: it was kind of the most honest assessment we've got 226 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: from him and a while, I completely agree with that 227 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: and something that I have been looking up recently. You know, 228 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: he's talking about the big the four big elephants in 229 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: the room, and I have been looking a lot at 230 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: the salary cap and um, I don't have these numbers 231 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: right in front of me, so don't like quote me 232 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: on this, but just going off at the top of 233 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: my head. If I'm remembering these numbers correctly, if you 234 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: take Matt Ryan, Grady, Jarrett, Jake Matthews, Dion Jones, and 235 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley's cap hit in twenty twenty two, it's it 236 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: makes up one hundred and twenty seven million of the 237 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: Falcons allotted two hundred and eight million, that per the 238 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: salary cap. So thattic, yeah, yeah, please, yes, back back 239 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: to you, Jorian the studio. I'm not in the studio. 240 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm at the hotel um So that is a whaffing number, 241 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: and I think people have to be realistic about where 242 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: the Falcons organization is at this point in time. And Chris, 243 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you brought up the free agency topic 244 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: because that was something that I spent some time just 245 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: kind of diving into after we talked to Terry and Arthur, 246 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: and I thought it was really interesting that essentially the 247 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: Falcons are going to have to do what they did 248 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, which was signed these mid level 249 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: free agent veterans, and they're going to have to do 250 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: it on cat friendly deals. And so when you're talking 251 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: about this and talking about having to do this again 252 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: for the second year in a row in order to 253 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: build upon it, in order to be in a better 254 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: spot in twenty twenty three, I thought it was really 255 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: interesting that Terry Fontna goes on the podium and says, 256 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: look at the Cordarell Patterson example. This is the example 257 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: of what we're trying to do in this offseason. We're 258 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: trying to find some value picks that kind of fall 259 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: through the wayside of the first round, the first wave 260 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: of free agency, and we want to go out and 261 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: get them, and we won't have a vision for them, 262 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: and we want to be able to execute that vision, 263 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: maybe in a way that other people think that they 264 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: can't be executed. I mean, you look at CP and 265 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: what he did. I don't think anyone was going into 266 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season thinking that he was going 267 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: to produce at the clip that he did from an 268 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: offensive standpoint. So when you're thinking about this, the Falcons 269 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: are like, look here, And this goes back to what 270 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: Scott was saying about how Terry kind of went up 271 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: there and had a sales pitch. He really was selling 272 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: this organization to these mid level free agent veterans that 273 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. He goes up there and he 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: says like, essentially, look what we did with Cordarell Patterson. 275 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Look look what our coaching staff did. Look look at 276 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: what the production was for a guy like CP who's 277 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: in his twilight years of his career. And also he 278 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: throws a little sprinkle in you know, who wouldn't want 279 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: to live in Atlanta. You know, it's good for the singles, 280 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: it's good for the married folk, like everybody, everybody family. 281 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: So he has this, this whole pitch, and this is 282 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: the pitch that Chris. This goes back to exactly what 283 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: you're saying, like, when you're at the combine, you have 284 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: all of these people and all of these ears in 285 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: every media person, in every TV camera and all that 286 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. There's nothing that's said that doesn't have 287 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: a point. So the fact that Terry Fano wants to 288 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: go up at the NFL Combine and talk about free 289 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: agency and how they want to find these value picks 290 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: and how Atlanta is quote an attractive place to be. 291 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I think that is super important to the conversations that 292 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna have in the coming months as the Falcons 293 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: kind of tackle building this roster because they're not going 294 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: to be able to do it with a big splash 295 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: free agent signing. Terry Fano said that he was like, 296 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: we're not gonna We're not gonna be big players day 297 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: one a free agency because they can't. They don't have 298 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: the money to do that. So this is gonna be 299 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: a longer play as we saw last year. So it's 300 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna be important. And I want everyone to remember this 301 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: sales pitch because I would love to know when we 302 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: get to the point where we're talking to these free 303 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: agents that they're gonna sign if they hard that and 304 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: if that resonated with them. Yeah. Yeah. I hate to 305 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: be like like a Devil's advocate or kind of Debbie 306 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: Downer in the room here, right, but so like Cordio Patterson, 307 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: Kim like him can be that guy. And he was 308 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: exceptional and the MVP and deserves a raise from what 309 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: he got last year, and we'll get it from the 310 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: Falcons or somewhere else. How many free agents did the 311 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: Falcons sign, right, and how many are examples of that? 312 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is not to 313 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: just be like pessimistic, but it's hard. It's hard to 314 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: find players at that level of their career to be 315 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: able to step in and give that type of production 316 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: that's not a gold standard, that's like, that's like stratospheric 317 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to the type of return that you 318 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: can get from a free agent from this class, from 319 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: that class of free agents, from second, third, especially third 320 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: waven and beyond free agent. So I think for as 321 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: much as the Terry fontno setting expectations for what the 322 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: Falcons are going to do in free agency, he's trying 323 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: to pitch the people that they can currently afford. I 324 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: think that's important. I always think it's an important front 325 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: for fans to understand that it's difficult. Right. It's also 326 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off on another tangent. Now that's part A. 327 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Part B. Is this going back to what Terry was 328 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: saying about rebuild, to rebuild or not to rebuild, right, Like, 329 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: that's the Hamlet type question. And nonetheless, when you get 330 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: into it, right, rebuild has been a four letter word 331 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: around here since I arrived in July. He's Terry Fondo said, 332 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: it's disrespectful to the people in the room to rebuild. Okay. 333 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: I've also covered a team in The Raiders that took 334 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: a scorched earth mushroom cloud approach to their salary cap problems. 335 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: They cut everybody, even if they were attached to the ship. 336 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: They were just they were getting rid of everybody, they 337 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: were training everybody. They didn't care about dead money hints, 338 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: they didn't care about anything. They went four and twelve 339 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: or three straight years, which they essentially did. That's fine 340 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: for them, right, that was their approach, the full strip 341 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: down Terry Fonko when the Falcons are not going to 342 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: do that. And I think that that's admirable. But to 343 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: Chris's point, which was a really good one, that I 344 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: think fans don't think about enough. Right, you want to 345 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: be competitive, but you don't want to sacrifice your long 346 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: term vision to go from seven to eight wins, Right, 347 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: what does that do for you? You want to compete 348 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: to have a chance to get to the playoffs and 349 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: maybe things go differently this in the coming year than 350 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: they went for the team last year. But you don't 351 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: want to try to move heaven and Earth for one victory, right, 352 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: You don't want to try to do that. So at 353 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: some point you look at at the level of discipline 354 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: that they're going to need to have, right, and they're 355 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: going to have to be steadfast, and they're resolved to 356 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: not go chase one win, but to chase their but 357 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: to stay with stay with their long term vision. While 358 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: not completely des admitting the whole thing. Um that's me 359 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: talking for a very long time, I think, yeah. Thing. 360 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: I also say in terms of the free agents, maximizing 361 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: free agents the I think the Bengals are also an 362 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: example of that in terms of they signed Ricardo Allen 363 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: and Eli Apple and I mean Trey Hendrickson was was 364 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: a bigger deal and Hidobe was a bigger deal, but 365 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: they got they got value out of Eli Apple. He 366 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: made a big play and I know he was kind 367 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: of getting the business on social media a little bit, 368 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: but he made a play in the in the AFC Championship, 369 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: and um, those guys that they got on one year, 370 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: one million dollar deals and things like that. They were 371 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: crucial in getting them to the Super Bowl. So I 372 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: think there's other teams also who you can see like 373 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: also Trey Henderson was a big role, so I don't 374 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: want to, you know, discredit him, and they paid more 375 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: a significant amount for him. But just saying how you 376 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: can not necessarily break the bank ridiculously and still, you know, 377 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: maybe maximize those players without hurting yourself in the long run. 378 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: So the question is, or the next part of it is, 379 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: they've got to free up some cap space period to 380 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: do anything. Correct me if I'm wrong. From the Chris 381 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: Rooms story over the cap dot com they're seven million 382 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: over three seven point three million over, So they've got 383 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: a maneuver and do some things just to get to 384 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: a point where they can be under the cap. Now 385 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: what a lot of people don't realize, you don't have 386 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: to be under the cap until you have your final 387 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: fifty three. But financially, you've got to get under the 388 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: cap so you know what you're spending and you don't 389 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: enter a black hole you can't get out of in 390 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: the fall. But anyway, in order to open up some 391 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: cap space, they've got some options and opportunities in front 392 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: of them to try to do those things. Our good 393 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: friend and fellow Falcons contributor to Steve wi on NFL Network, 394 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: was talking the other day about some possibilities that we've 395 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: all discussed, right that you could extend Jake Matthews, you 396 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: could extend Grady Jarrett, you could trade Calvin Ridley, you 397 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: could redo matt Ryan's deal, which Ste've called a code 398 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: read option I think was the tournament he used. But 399 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: there are some ways to do those things. I thought. 400 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith and his conversation with local media, not the 401 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: one on the podium that you'll see in videos everywhere, 402 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: was pretty candid about the fact that like it takes 403 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: two to tangle, right, Like they can want to extend 404 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: Jake Matthews, really have to come up with the deal, 405 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: right or what they can want to trade somebody, They 406 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: gotta go find a trade partner for for good compensation. 407 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: They could only get rid of a person if they 408 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 1: signed somebody else. There's so many variables here that you 409 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: know that they just have to be a lot of 410 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: contingency plans, right, Tory that you were kind of talking 411 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: about this earlier, that there's a lot of moving parts. 412 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: There's not just one plan. They're going to execute, execute, execute, 413 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: and then sign people right, right, I mean this is 414 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: a very complicated thing. Yeah, no, you're you're absolutely right. 415 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: I think it's it's one of those things that it's uh, 416 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a um where you can I 417 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: don't know if y'all used to play those video games, 418 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: there was this like, so I used to play these 419 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: video games, is like a Barbie like video game, and 420 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: it was like if you made one move, then this 421 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: was where you went. If you made another mood, this 422 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: was the car that you bought, like, and it was 423 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: kind of like build build your Barbie life or something 424 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: like that. And I'll all of the men, viewers or 425 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: listeners just went, dear God, have her shut up. Please 426 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: um but no, I have a point to make, um 427 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: and Barbie's gonna help me do it. So that is 428 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: essentially immediately, please please do That is essentially what the 429 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: Falcons are having to do, right like if they like, 430 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: let's just use this as an example. And this is 431 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: not me saying the Falcons are going to do this, 432 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: but let's just use the linebacker's room as an example. 433 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: Let's say the Falcons restruct or let's say the Falcons 434 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: resign Foyer. Let's say they part ways with Dion. Let's 435 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: say they go into the draft knowing that they're not 436 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: going to have Deon and they need to draft a linebacker. 437 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: All of that changes if they decide to keep Deon. 438 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: All of that changes if they can't come to an 439 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: agreement with Foyer. Like, there are so many things that 440 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: dictate where the Falcons go in the draft, who the 441 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Falcons go after, and free agency, who's a trade candidate. 442 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is like a piecing it together 443 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: as you go to see what you have available. It's 444 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: not as easy as saying, like, oh, we're gonna restructure 445 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: Matt for the five hundredth time so that we can 446 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: have the money to go out and get an edge rusher. 447 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: It's not that simple, especially when you know that you 448 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: don't want to like Scott what you were saying, Like, 449 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: there is another piece of this. It's not like this 450 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: organization can just go restructure every guy or extend every guy, 451 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: or resign every guy the clip that they want. There's 452 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: an agent, there's a union, there's players that have a 453 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: say in how much money they're going to make. In 454 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, it's not as easy. I think people 455 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: have this huge misconception that it's just like, just restructure 456 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: this guy to get under the cap. It is not 457 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: that easy. You have to have a person who's willing 458 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: to work with you in order to do that. So 459 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: that's that's nice feel brought to you and sponsored by 460 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: Barbie Oh God for I agree. Um yeah, I mean 461 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a complicated situation, and it's complicated because 462 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: they don't want to use the rebuild word right that Okay, 463 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: you could just hack and slash and pile up dead 464 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: money forever and cut cut cut, cut, cut cut Right. 465 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: That's the way that you have complete control over it, 466 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: and you can gain some space at a at a 467 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: huge cost, but then you're taking away your ability to 468 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: be competitive. So it's a it's a layer cake man um. 469 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: And I hope and I think that the Falcons fans 470 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: that I engage with in the mailbag maybe what you 471 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, there's always extremists, but I feel like there's 472 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: a core of Falcons fans out there that get it right, 473 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: that it is a complicated thing and there's no way 474 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: it's it's nonlinear um in a way that makes the 475 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: conversation around these topics kind of difficult. But I do 476 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: think though, especially if Chris, I think, really set the 477 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: tone for this podcast. But but but just by saying like, okay, 478 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: like we need to analyze what they said at the podium, right, 479 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: and what they said in that local media scrum, and 480 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: then we got to like understand like what their meaning 481 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: by it is and what their intention with it is, 482 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: like all the free Asian stuff around CP just the 483 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: story pointed out that's okay, Like that's for the fans, 484 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: that's also for everybody with it, like with it with 485 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: an expiring contract, right, you know. So I just think 486 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: that there are a lot of subtle nuances to it. 487 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, again, who wouldn't want Grady Jarrett around long term? Right? 488 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: You can create some cap space there. I think the 489 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: extensions you think that's saying we want you, We're willing 490 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: to give you more money over a longer term. With 491 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: Matthews and with Jarrett, that seems to me to be 492 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: the easiest road forward because it's a positive, it's a 493 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: net positive. But again, can they just get those things 494 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: done right? I mean, I'm not sure that anything is 495 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: a given anything else about you know, with free agency 496 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: coming up, guys, any other things you want to raise 497 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: your hand about, Tory, It's about to be an exhausting 498 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: Like I know, we're here for the combine and everything, 499 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 1: and it's going to be an exhausting week and then 500 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and we're gonna have a week 501 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: until the league year starts. Then it's just gonna start 502 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: right back over again. So I guess everybody just stick 503 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: with us because we're gonna have a ton of content. 504 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: I know, today was just the first day of the 505 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Combine and we wrote what like five or six different 506 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: stories that are all on the site. I mean, that's 507 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: that's a lot. That's a lot of a lot of work. 508 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: But hopefully you guys read it, enjoy it, um, and 509 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: let us know if there's any again, if there's anything 510 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: you want us to talk about, because we have a 511 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: ton of offseason time to do these podcasts and we 512 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: really like hearing from you guys. So yeah, yeah. I 513 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: will also say that I always hate it when people 514 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: on the radio do this, but I'm gonna do it anyway, um, 515 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: and that is that we have a really awesome content 516 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: series coming up. Am I gonna tell you what it's 517 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: about no Am, I no, I'm not. I'm gonna leave 518 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: that all hanging out there, but I've read it. Send 519 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: your guesses into bear Mill. Send you what it is 520 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: about baby Cakes. It could be about, could be about you, 521 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: could be about dating apps. Who knows Scott barn whether 522 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: baby Cakes is going to hit free agency? Answer that 523 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: question is no, So do with mister bear mail us now. 524 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna happen so that one. That's the question 525 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: that we can answer for certain um. But anyway, guys, 526 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on a podcast 527 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: again recorded right here in Indianapolis. Stay tuned to Atlanta 528 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: Falcons dot com for massive amounts of coverage as we 529 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: move forward throughout the course of this week. We will 530 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at some draft prospects while we're here, 531 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: talk to some draft prospects how it relates to the Falcons. 532 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: And again, we got a lot of cool stuff coming 533 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: up about the draft, about free agency. It's gonna be 534 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: a crazy couple of weeks, and we're gonna be right 535 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: here at a lot of Atlanta Falcons dot com. Take 536 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: y'all through it. I'm Scott, It's Tor and Chris. Talk 537 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: to y'all soon.