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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I didn't welcome to stuff.

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Speaker 1: I have a two part question for you. I think

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Speaker 1: ever interested in a career in medicine? Yeah? Actually I

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Speaker 1: And then as I started doing all of my medical

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Speaker 1: your like goal? What was your How are you envisioning

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Speaker 1: all of that, thinking that I would be poor and hopefully,

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Speaker 1: And the second part of my question is are you

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