1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 3: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs. 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: Here we are the Players Lounge coming to you from 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: the SWBC podcast studios in Frisco, Texas. Open locker room 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 4: right now for the Dallas Cowboys as they get ready 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 4: for Week ones opponent against the Cleveland Browns and Cleveland, Ohio. 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: Miss Simony cleved. 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Down on Lake. What you know about that? 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: Yes, Heck Maharis, Barry Church is here. Newi Scruggs, you 14 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 4: bring up some good memories. Hacked my hairs when. 15 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: I lived in. 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 4: When I was in Cleveland, man, the two things that 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: you'd bump would be bone thugs and Jeral Lebert. 18 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's the mail of Cleveland. 19 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: Loved me Jail he was so one time I worked 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: the Channel five up there and a big, big Jail 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: Oft fan, Big. 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: Jeril probably was the OJS fan first, Yes, yes, but it. 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: Was a big, big Jerrel Lbert fan. And he had 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: a song that we me and my frat brothers used 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 4: to sing that he and Keith Sweating did the duet, 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: just one of them things, and uh, great, great great. Anyway, 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: I go downstairs because my office is upstairs. But downstairs, 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: Jerald Lebert is in our building at the assignment desk. Yes, 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: he's there because it was a pretty little lady worked 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: on the desk. He finished the show. Man, I straight up, hey. 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Man, yes, yes, I said. 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: We see one of them things all the time. Man, 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: Me and the frid He was like, appreciate, appreciate, nice guy, 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: super nice guy. 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: Yes. 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: Anyway, his passing, his passing hurt me. But a lot 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: of great music. Uh down in the musical roots in Cleveland. 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: You ever get a chance to go there. Uh, you 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: want to go to a Browns game. You want to 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: you want to take in the game over at the 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: old Jacobs Field now or whatever. They want to cool place, 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: cool place, all right. So the Browns are two point 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: favorites against this Dallas Cowboys team. The Cowboys are bringing 45 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: Mike Zimmeran to replace Dan Quinn as the defensive coordinator. 46 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: M HM. When Danny McCrae was a part of the 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: players line. She was all about d Q and d 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: Q we trust. How are we feeling about Mike Zimmer, Guys, 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 4: y'all barry cowboys about this? 50 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 6: I think using dan Quinn, I think it's gonna be huge. 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 6: Do I think it's gonna be detrimental to where they 52 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 6: won't have at least a you know, top fifteen defense, 53 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 6: though I don't think it'll be that bad. But we 54 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 6: all saw, you know, when these when this team switched 55 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 6: coordinators from Marionelli to Nolan back a couple of years ago, 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 6: how how bad that went. And then Quinn came in 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 6: here and he just shot this defense up with a 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 6: bunch of life and a bunch of juice. 59 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 4: And we saw how they played for that. 60 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: Man. 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 6: I mean, every single one of those players went out 62 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 6: there and they gave it their all for dan Quinn. 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 6: And whether it's turning over, turning over the football, getting 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 6: after the quarterback, whatever the case may be, each of 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 6: those guys had career seasons under dan Quinn. And that's 66 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 6: something that I don't think people can just sit there 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 6: kind of dismiss like, Okay, you know, we got the 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 6: same players, just a different coordinator. I think it'll be 69 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 6: a little bit harder for this defense to get back 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 6: to where they were at least last year, not at 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 6: the beginning of the season. 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a bumpy road to start. 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 6: But I think eventually, you know, they'll get the hold 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 6: of Zimmer's defense and you know they'll start the role. 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 6: They have too many great pieces on that defensive side 76 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 6: to be just a terrible defense. I mean, you got Parsons, 77 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 6: you got d Law, you got Digs, the guys on 78 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 6: the outside, so you got the pieces there. But what's 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 6: gonna be a little bit concerned to me is we 80 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 6: already talked about it, which is that that run defense. 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 6: And in Zimmer's defense, you know how he loves to 82 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 6: play those guys back and I'm talking about the safeties. 83 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 6: He loves to play those guys back. So it's gonna 84 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 6: leave you with a light box against the run. And 85 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 6: when Zimmer had those defenses in Minnesota, he had a 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 6: prime Lynn vald Joseph, he had at Kendricks who was 87 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 6: in his prime, those guys Anthony Barr. They were able 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 6: to play the light defense because they had those big 89 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 6: molly wops up front in linebackers. I can run sideline 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 6: the sideline. Now we're talking about Zim. You know, probably 91 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 6: eight years later Kendricks year eleven down, does he still 92 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 6: have the juice to be able to be that sideline 93 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 6: the sideline guy. And I don't know, lin Vald Joseph, 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 6: you're twenty nine. I don't even know what year this guy'said. 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 6: But he's been in the league, started six years old. Right, 96 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 6: But it's a lot, all right. 97 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 4: I'm just saying to me, if the road's gonna be 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: bumpy a little. 99 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 6: Bit at the beginning of the season, but I believe 100 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 6: they'll catch a foot and I think they'll finish in 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 6: the middle defensively, you know what. 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: I think, Especially it's right, what do we doing the players? 103 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: He put the spin on it. You know, I love that, 104 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: And you're right, Danny was all about d Q age. 105 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: He spoke highly of his his scheme and the way 106 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: that he used his players. But I look at these 107 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: defensive court now, I look at coaches period like parents. 108 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: You know, you got parenting styles. You got one strict 109 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: parenting and then you have the very liberal parents and 110 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: free reigns kids. You know, all of that stuff. Mike 111 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: Zimmerate the timeout parent, he the parent that go get 112 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: the belt. That's that's the kind of guy. He is 113 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: so got. What I'm saying is this is another just 114 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: funny way to say he's more disciplined. He's going to 115 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: take a more disciplined approach. You're gonna know exactly where 116 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: he wants you to be. And I think that was 117 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: completely different from Dan d Q. That allowed these guys 118 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: to freelance, freestyle, do some other things. If they were 119 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: going out here, it's kind of flexibility with what you 120 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: were doing. We know what the secret sauce is to 121 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: beating the Cowboys has been this way for years. Run 122 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: the ball on them. They can't get off the ball, 123 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: can't get off the field on third down. And oh, 124 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: by the way, if they don't get to the quarterback 125 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: and if they don't force turnovers, they look average at best. 126 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: But he has to do no matter what is get 127 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: those big guys up front, and he has to play 128 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: sturdy in that defensive line. And that's why you bring 129 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: in guys like Phillips. That's why you bring in lyn 130 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: Vald Joseph that's been playing since Hee them's nine years old. 131 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: Off the street, off the street, off the counts. You 132 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: want to play. Yeah, yeah, we got something for you 133 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: to do. But in the lake right now, are you available? 134 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: As much as people want to make jokes about that, 135 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: the thing about it is all you need is that 136 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: guy to be able to make a difference in your 137 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: linebacker room. And that's where I think you got better 138 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: in the off season. You could say Kendrick's been playing forever, 139 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: but hey, he's had consistent seasons with one hundred tackles 140 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: and we have needed that tackling machine. But not only that, 141 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: you've needed guys that can also play out in space 142 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: and also defend. And what you're gonna need also in 143 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: this situation is because if your your cornerback room, you're 144 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: gonna need really smart linebackers to be able to play 145 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: in and out of phase in areas so that you 146 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: can protect your cornerbacks in the flat and underneath. Look, 147 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: it's it's imperative right now going up against Cleveland, Stefanski's 148 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: not going to change his spots. He's not. Stefans is 149 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: not gonna change. He's gonna run that. And the thing is, now, 150 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: when you you talk about Deshaun Watson coming off of 151 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: a shoulder injury, there are some things that you haven't 152 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: seen in the off season from him. Hell, there are 153 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: things that you haven't seen from Deshaun Watson in a 154 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: couple of years that if he starts to reconnect with 155 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: some of that, it could be a bad experience for 156 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys in Week one. 157 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: So what's Zimmer? 158 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: I love him and I think he's going to make 159 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: the difference on for this defense. Top ten, top defense. 160 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: Don't fall forward, don't fall forward. He trying to get 161 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: you in that trap where he was at top defense. 162 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, what are you talking about. I mean, 163 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: I believe that we have we got Yeah, so they'll 164 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: be they'll be top absolutely all right, Okay, the Dallas 165 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: Cowboys have a top ten defense. Get back, get back 166 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: to the book. Yeah, look at that. Yeah yeah, get healthy, Yeah, 167 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: get healthy, my man, darrun Land. Yeah, that's a big one. 168 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: That's a big one. And I think you have to 169 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: come up for some of those awards early uh with 170 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: with Kaylene car Carson. Yea, he changed his number. 171 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: He got that one on him now. 172 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: And to think about and to think about Carson that 173 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: you also know that he's gonna be aggressive. And I 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: feel like Al Harris, especially his secondary coach, is going 175 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: to have him prepared for this moment. We know, we 176 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: know exactly what the Browns are going to present. They 177 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: got a lot of problems and they got Amari Cooper, 178 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: So let's let's keep it a buck. And you know what, 179 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper two strict thousand yard seasons since he's been 180 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. He presents a problem, especially when you start 181 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: talking about tray Von Diggs coming back on an a 182 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: cl so Barry. 183 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 4: When you have a new defensive coordinator bringing in his 184 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: type of style here, how long is the adjustment period 185 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: for guys on the field. It can be going from 186 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: DZ it can be extremely long. 187 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 6: But thankful for this team that at the at the 188 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 6: marquee positions, the positions where you know they do the 189 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: most communicating. They have veterans there that are brought in 190 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 6: from a zimmer As system that understands we're talking about 191 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 6: the Kendricks. At the linebacker position, who's gonna be And 192 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 6: that's why I say he's gonna be probably the most 193 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 6: important piece of his defense because he's going to be 194 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 6: the quarterback back there. Yeah, I mean, you're gonna have 195 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 6: safeties making calls, but they're gonna be relaying the message 196 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 6: that Kendricks said. At the second level, he's gonna look around, Okay, 197 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 6: there's two by two two receives on that side. We're 198 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 6: gonna be in this defense, and he's gonna have that 199 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 6: relayed throughout the entire defense. And then you talk about 200 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 6: a guy Linvald Joseph, even though I make fun of 201 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 6: him for his age, he's gonna have to be that 202 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 6: guy in there in the trenches that's gonna say, all right, 203 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 6: this is how we're gonna set things up, this is 204 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 6: how we're gonna play double teams. At least kind of 205 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 6: show those guys the way. So if there was no 206 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 6: one coming from the Zimmer Zimmer regime or Zimmer era 207 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 6: when he was coaching defense that was on this defense, 208 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 6: and I would say it was gonna take a while, 209 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 6: it's gonna be a bumpy road. But you got guys 210 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 6: in that those marquee positions that can relate to defense 211 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 6: and get these guys at least lined up on the 212 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 6: same page. Because if you're lined up on the same page, 213 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 6: you got a chance. But if you got half of 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 6: the field playing cover two, another half playing cover four, that's. 215 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: When you get in those those ticky situations. 216 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 6: So you got to communicator out there and hopefully he 217 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 6: can take this defense and make it his own. 218 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: So this is a game where a lot of people 219 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: are talking about number four and the pressure run number four, 220 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: and I'll tell you they got the wrong number four. 221 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott is a guy who led the league in 222 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: touchdown passes last year, the first year in this Mike 223 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: McCarthy offense, and they brought his top target back. I 224 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: don't worry about Dak Prescott because Dak Prescott has shown 225 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 4: you he's still a top quarterback in this league. Deshaun 226 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 4: Watson got a whole bunch of guaranteed money, has not 227 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: lived up to any of it. And I'm like, anybody 228 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: want to go ahead and put something on Watsons. I 229 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: will tell you before he left Clemson, I said the 230 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: Cowboys had to have a losing season. Have a losing season, 231 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: Go get DeShawn wats I was sold on to Shawn 232 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: wats I was sold on to Shot Watson more than 233 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, more than Mitchell Trubisky. Like this is the guy, 234 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: Go get this guy. This guy's good. Took Alabama to 235 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: the wire and two national championship games, walked out with 236 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 4: one win and the second one and his fault. He 237 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: was he the guy can't perform. When Nick Saban says, 238 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: hey man, this dude has given us as much trouble. 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: Last guy to give us this skin of troubles Cam Newton. 240 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: So I'm like, this is the dude and Houston good 241 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: player got paid in Cleveland and stuff on Twitter came out. 242 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: It ain't been the same guy shoulder last year. This 243 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: for all the people that talk about the accuracy of 244 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, please go look at DeShawn Watson. If you've 245 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 4: had Deshaun Watson on the fantasy team anytime in the 246 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: last three years, you know the pain. I've known the 247 00:11:53,360 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: pain at the end of he was that backup about 248 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: fantasy I mean, you want to find out about your 249 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: quarter plays fantasy. 250 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 7: Football, brother, I mean it's got to be behind how 251 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 7: good the receiver. 252 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: They're not magician topic. 253 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: I mean getting joker. If you need to any fantasy team, 254 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: he'll put some points up because that'll be his that'll 255 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: be his outlet guy. 256 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, hey, down, I want to 257 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: offer this up. I want to offer this up about 258 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: Cleveland because they went eleven and seven last season without 259 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, only had him for six games. There are 260 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: very few teams in the NFL that really you just 261 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: got to drive the bus. And I know that's sacrilegious 262 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: in quarterback talk, but just drive the bus. That's how 263 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: good that defense is. You know, their defense is that good. 264 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: I mean you could be in some ten U three 265 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: zero games with Cleveland's defense. And I think, look, Deshaun Watson, 266 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: for the money that he got paid, the pressure is 267 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: gonna come with it. 268 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: He's a fully guaranteed country and. 269 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: Unheard of right. But you know, when I look at him, 270 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: I think, look, man, if your offensive line can give 271 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: you any push, your running game can be any semblance 272 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: of what it has been in the past, it makes 273 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 2: your job even easier, especially with the guys that you 274 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: have on the outside. Jerry Judy, Mark Cooper and company. Look, 275 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 2: just allow those guys to be them and don't try 276 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: and do anything special. We know we're gonna he's gonna 277 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: take those short dump off passes. He's not gonna be 278 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: trying to go up the field. Initially, I'm saying, you know, 279 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: and that's just how my feeling is on him. But 280 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be a defensive game. And 281 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: you saw I saw Flacco last season and he got 282 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: broke off. Somebody's gonna pay him money because of the 283 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: job that he did after Deshaun Watson was hurt because 284 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: all he did was just come in and not mess 285 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: it up, and sometimes that's all you gotta do. 286 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: I disagree he took the ball down the field where 287 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: Watson wasn't taking the ball down the field. 288 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cooper Cooper was No, That's exactly what I was 289 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: gonna say. I mean, when you have a weapon, I mean, 290 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: when you when you have a weapon. 291 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 4: That wind with Watson out there, I mean, because that's 292 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: the part of playing in Cleveland, like that wind up 293 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: there is tripping man. 294 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: Watch. Yeah, when you don't have any weapons, but you 295 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: know Cleveland has weapons, and they've always had guys that 296 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: could be able to stretch the field, take the top off. 297 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: I Meanmark Cooper is one of the best in the 298 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: business at what he does. Exactly, my man, it's for you, uh, 299 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: my man, d Mac. But either way, you know, you 300 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: just when you have weapons the way that he does, 301 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: he understood how to use him. And you think about 302 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: Flacco when he played in Baltimore, He was tailor made 303 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: for the job because what all he had to do 304 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: was just not mess it up and take the shots 305 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: when you had an opportunity to. It's true. Okay, that's true. 306 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: My man says, it's true. 307 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: VP. Now he did have a crazy playoff run. He 308 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: was good. I mean he wait a minute, you mean 309 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: to tell me with ray Lewis what you go? You 310 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: go put that Super Bowl on on flocko. You're gonna 311 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: tell me floo was the reason that Baltimore won the 312 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: Super Bowl? 313 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: Did I say it was the reason? 314 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 8: No? 315 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying you were you that. 316 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: This was just sitting here driving the bus like he 317 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: was Brad jam Johnson to Tampa Bay. 318 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: That was not it, right, We've seen it. That was 319 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: you've seen it. You've seen it. 320 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: The show had to go make plays that year, and 321 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: he did in that Super Bowl game when I was 322 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: at New Orleans two. The dude made some plays and 323 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: he was the m v P and that whole that 324 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: whole run. But his own team didn't want to pay him. 325 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: His own team, Hey man, you need to take this. 326 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: He was like, no, I'm not taking that. I'm betting 327 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: on myself. He bet on any one, and he won. 328 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: And when he played last year in Cleveland, the guy 329 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: was a better quarterback than Watson, and he was so 330 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: good they couldn't bring him back too much turmoil. They 331 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: couldn't bring him back. 332 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: They put the trophy, they didn't put a statue of 333 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: him outside the whole like that. 334 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: The man, I give him his flowers for the super run. 335 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: I give him his flowers for what he did last year. 336 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: You know, No, you're on the island right there. 337 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: You know that's fine. 338 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: That's on the island with that. Say what you want 339 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: to be one of the best defenses that come on? 340 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: Now you Cleveland? 341 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: Huh Cleveland? 342 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cleveland definitely had one of the best defense. 343 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking about Baltimore on won in Baltimore. 344 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: The guy was not a bus drivers, know what I'm saying. 345 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: The guy, the guy made plays. I ain't sitting there 346 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: here calling Patrick Mahomes. But the guy made play. The 347 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: guy was not The guy wasn't just sitting here driving 348 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: the bus. He made plays and and they won because 349 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: he was able to make plays. And he had Jim 350 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: Calwells's coordinator in Baltimore too, who didn't get enough credit. 351 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: But Jim dialed up some stuff and put Joe in 352 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: a good spot and he was able to make some 353 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: plays in their defense. 354 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: Pretty good safety question. Safety question, let's take let's do 355 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: you want to tease it? 356 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, got a safety question. 357 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Safety question. 358 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: We have a. 359 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: Question here, Barry Church. I'm new a Scruggs safety question 360 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: coming up next. 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Three touchdowns got Baltimore 415 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: out to a twenty one to ten lead and let 416 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: me see, they had twenty one first downs, thirteen were 417 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: via passing on third down efficiency nine to sixteen. 418 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: But okay, if you think that's bus driving, know, yeah, 419 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: so be it. That's how they celebrate that one. Can 420 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 2: we go to the safety question, let's do it? Okay? 421 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: So in this in this match especially you're talking about 422 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer, we were talking about his scheme and what 423 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: he's gonna do, especially coming up against the team in 424 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski. He basically Kevin Stefanski came up underneath his wing, 425 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: so he knows his scheme full well. Guys like Donovan 426 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: Wilson and Marquise Bell your safety positions the way that 427 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: you were just talking about the two high safety. Look, 428 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to bring one of those guys down 429 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: in the box if things start getting out of control 430 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: or or you have to start scheming those guys up. 431 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: How do you feel against that? With that matchup with 432 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: Donovan Wilson not only in the run and run fits, 433 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: but also being lined up over in Jukko and when 434 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: it comes to run. 435 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 6: Fits, I got no issue with with Wilson. I understand 436 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 6: he understands the run game like the back of his hand. 437 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 6: The guy's gonna come downhill like a missile. He's gonna 438 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 6: fill his gaps. 439 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: He's gonna be that. 440 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 6: Explosive player that you want to see in a run 441 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 6: game that get your defense hype with the big hit. 442 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 6: So when it comes to the run game, I'm not 443 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 6: really concerned about Donovan Wilson down there now when it 444 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 6: comes to eventually because you know, we know Zim loves 445 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 6: to play zone, but eventually you're gonna have to sprinkle 446 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 6: in some man. You're gonna have to be in some 447 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 6: third down situations where you gotta go man. And that's 448 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 6: the situation where they're gonna have them Joku out there 449 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 6: one on one against Donovan Wilson now is Najoekub Travis 450 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 6: Kelce No, but the guy is a mismatched nightmare. When 451 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 6: we talk about vertical speed and being able to use 452 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 6: his body like a big rebounder out there, so he 453 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: can definitely present some problems to a Wilson in one 454 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 6: on one coverage, and I don't really see unless it's 455 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: a you know, gotta have it down Zim saying all right, Wilson, 456 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 6: we need you man to man on this guy. 457 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: Lock him up. 458 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 6: I mean that's just not his game. That wasn't my 459 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 6: game when I played, and I don't believe that's Wilson's 460 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 6: game is either. And when you talk about the run scheme, 461 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: there's one thing that they can do. I don't know 462 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 6: if they do do this or not, but they have 463 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 6: an option to do so, which is a lot of 464 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 6: people will play big nickel, which instead of having versus 465 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 6: a twelve personnel so you got, you know, whatever, two 466 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 6: running backs, one one tight end or vice versa, you 467 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 6: would bring down Instead of having George Lewis at that nickel, 468 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 6: which he's a good run defender as well, you would 469 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: have that big nickel going there, which is kind of 470 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 6: like a Marque's beak, which he would be that basically 471 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 6: third linebacker in there, but he's a little bit better 472 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 6: in coverage than a linebacker. That to me, would be 473 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 6: the situation you would have there to go against the run. 474 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 6: If the run is just outright destroying you, you're coming 475 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 6: downhill versus your base personnel, you got to bring another 476 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 6: speed guy in there, open field guy. You would bring 477 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 6: belle down in there to be that big nickel package, 478 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 6: and hopefully that will resolve some of the issues. But 479 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 6: first and foremost, they got to get the inside, like 480 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 6: were talking about, you know, safety is coming down, that's 481 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 6: all outside work. If you can get that inside situated, 482 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 6: if you can get Miley Smith to go in there, 483 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 6: take those double teams and Kendrick can go sideline and sideline, 484 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: then they won't have to bring these guys down. They'll 485 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 6: be able to have those safeties back. But you know 486 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 6: what they say, if it was a fifth right, yeah, 487 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: we'd be drunking here. But zone zone typically is what 488 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 6: you're talking about for coach Zimmer. And then you have 489 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 6: a rookie who's gonna come into the situation already with 490 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 6: the jitters. So for I mean Church, thinking about what 491 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 6: your first game NFL. 492 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: Game, you gotta help, gotta help you, gotta help you. 493 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 6: Man, the waters are gonna be choppy enough as a 494 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 6: rookie going in there your first NFL game. Like of course, 495 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 6: these guys have been to you know that. Some guys 496 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 6: sec there are used to big crowds, but the NFL, 497 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 6: it's just it's just a different visa, just a different vibe. 498 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 6: It's just a different feel and you're gonna be anxious 499 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 6: out there. You need somebody to help calm you down, 500 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 6: so you don't want to be tossed in the island 501 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 6: your first National Football League game. 502 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 4: So to me what Zimmer's going through, it's gonna sprinkle 503 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 4: a lot of zone in there. 504 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 6: To help the young man now and on man and 505 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 6: man situations, lean of safety over the top, you know, 506 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 6: just lean He ain't gotta be fully on top of 507 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 6: the guy. 508 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 4: Just lean him over a little bit to kind of 509 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: discourage that quarterback. 510 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 6: So the young man understands that he has deep help, 511 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 6: because that's a big that's a big thing when you 512 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 6: talk about a defensive back learning where his help is. 513 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 6: If he understands where his help is and he has 514 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 6: all right, I cannot get beat to the outside, or 515 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 6: I cannot get beat to the inside. I got somebody 516 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 6: over the top that'll help alleviate the will help calm 517 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 6: him down a lot when he goes out there. Now, 518 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 6: you can either lean a safety over the top, or 519 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 6: you can help him play off off and have a 520 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 6: linebacker buzz underneath. But they gotta help the young man out. 521 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 6: I don't want to see, and you're always talking about this, 522 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 6: I don't want to see a Chaz Green situation where 523 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 6: they're like you know what, You're on an island against 524 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 6: this guy one on one. He's beating you like a drum. 525 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: But we're still gonna leave you out there. No, I 526 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 6: believe Zimmer is one of the smarter defensive minds in 527 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 6: the National Football League. So he's gonna help the young man. 528 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 6: So you're saying, protect him. You got you gotta protect 529 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: the top. You see the Mark Cooper running around, Yes, 530 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 6: like that. He gives some of the best corners in 531 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 6: the National Football League fits. You don't want to just 532 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 6: kill the man's confidence. Go out there and watch the 533 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 6: Martin Cooper one on one. He's dogging out the first 534 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 6: to the first two whatever, the first two drives and 535 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 6: you're like, man, I'm not ready for this game. Then 536 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 6: the confidence gets shot. So you gotta help the young 537 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 6: eye man. Now, let him go out there and make 538 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 6: some place. 539 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 4: What about Diggs? Do you put Trevon Diggs on a 540 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 4: pitch count? Here? 541 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 6: M If you have bland, I would say, yeah, you 542 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 6: can throw a little throw, throw him a little pitch count. 543 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 6: But without bland, you can't have him on and off 544 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 6: the field. I mean, I want him to go out there. 545 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: I want him to you know, if the training staffs. 546 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 6: He's fully ready to go. 547 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: Then days you gotta get out there and you got 548 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 4: to perform. This defense is gonna need you. 549 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 6: And I want the digs that still has that gambler 550 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 6: mentality understand, you know, coming back from that knee, you 551 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 6: don't want to you know you kind of figure out, man, 552 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 6: Do I still got the jews? 553 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: Can I still plan all that thing? 554 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 6: But the worst thing I want him to do is 555 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 6: go out there and play cautious, not play his game, 556 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 6: give up a lot of catches underneath, just to just 557 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 6: to watch that knee. Like, still have that gambler mentality, 558 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 6: Still jump on round, Still be the guy that we 559 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 6: know you are out there when fully healthy, But when 560 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 6: it comes to a pitch count, you don't have the depth, 561 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 6: You don't have the death right now to go out 562 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 6: there and say, you know, hey, you only play thirty 563 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 6: five forty plays here and there, we'll sprinkle some other 564 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 6: guys in there, because who you gonna sprinkle in there? 565 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 4: So let me add on this. If you're Cleveland, we 566 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 4: got a rookie, got a guy coming up an injury, 567 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 4: you're going to try to test them. 568 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: Off the top. 569 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be the first play yeah, test that chance. 570 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: To play action for sure. And you know, I always 571 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: go back to situations like this when you talk about 572 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: I've heard so many any players talk about Brett Brown 573 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: and his preparedness and the way that he brings guys back. 574 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: And I think about Trayvon Diggs and when he got hurt, 575 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: it wasn't like end of the season playoffs, and this is, 576 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: you know, beginning of the season, so I had plenty 577 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: of time to heal from it. And then you look 578 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: at you know, the acl achilles injury used to be 579 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: like the death nail to a guy's career. Now you're 580 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: seeing guys be able to come back and play with 581 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: a c L M c LS. And I mean Joe 582 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: Thomas came back grunk your man, you gotta find you know, 583 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: he blew both of his you know, and was able 584 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: to come back. Tom Brady blew in a cl and 585 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: so guys are able to come back and play. I 586 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: just feel like for Trayvon Diggs, it's the same with 587 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: almost like Carson. It's that mentality, what do you do 588 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: with your eyes? You know, where are your eyes? And 589 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 2: see a lot? I see a little, see a lot, 590 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean little see a lot, right. 591 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: And the thing about him is that even in that 592 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: gambler mentality, I want him to play like you're talking about. 593 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: But I think it's he's gonna have to get that 594 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 2: confidence as the game goes on. And like you were 595 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: talking about Kayln Carson, you was saying, look, man, play 596 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: within the scheme and don't try and guess. You know, 597 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: know where you're protecting, know where your help is. And 598 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing when you play defense is knowing 599 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: where your help is. And I think if if Diggs 600 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: can do that, I think at some point, especially in 601 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: the season, he'll let zim know. 602 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: Look, yeah, I'm I'm ready to go, you know, go 603 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: to double moves. 604 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that Mark Coopers for the doubles and 605 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: you know who know that he's susceptible to the double. 606 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: Road tied on road tide. 607 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that should be a good matchup for sure. Do 608 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 6: you see them you know, they didn't do it a 609 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 6: lot last year. I don't even know if they did 610 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 6: it at all last year. But do you see them 611 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 6: traveling digs with with Cooper at all throughout this game? 612 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: Wow? You know what, It's a lot to ask coming 613 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 2: on because because I think I think one, because of 614 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: the matchup and because of what you have going on 615 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: with your with your cornerback room, I think everybody's going 616 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: to get a full servant of them are Cooper. I 617 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: think he's gonna line up all over the field. And 618 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: I think that's the one element of this game that 619 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: they have right now that I think Dallas has to 620 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: prepare for. 621 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 4: How much juice is Mari half of this game? Oh, 622 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: I think he's a player, he's out of team like. 623 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 4: He's the type of guy that he won't put it 624 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 4: on his sleeve. He won't show all that emotion under it, 625 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: but you. 626 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 6: Know underneath he's like, man, I can't wait wait, Yeah, 627 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 6: so you know it because you know it's gonna send 628 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 6: everybody to a panic. 629 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 8: And. 630 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: He ain't gonna show it. 631 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 6: He won't say it before the game anything like that. 632 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 6: But they'll be slight, they'll be slight notices and go 633 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 6: out there and get the first down. He's gonna get up, 634 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 6: shrug his shoulders a little bit. He might you a celebration. 635 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 6: You know, he's not known for the celebration. He might 636 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 6: get up and celebrate a little bit better. I think 637 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 6: he's uh he's boiling for this one. 638 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one of those people, man, thinking about this 639 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: game and what I've seen on the film with the Browns. 640 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: I feel like Mike is gonna come after. I think 641 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: he has to. I think he has to. You know, 642 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: we've had these conversations by defensive schemes. Make eleven guys 643 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: look like fifteen guys and you know, create mayhem, and 644 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: he's gonna he's gonna have to do that at the 645 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage if he allows for Deshaun Watson to 646 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: be comfortable in the pocket and maneuver and do it 647 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: like you can't do that. And this is this is 648 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: our opportunity. Everybody that wants to see how Zim is 649 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: gonna use Michael Parsons. This is my part where I'm like, 650 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: how now that you got your opportunity, how are you 651 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: gonna use number eleven? And I think that that's gonna 652 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: be the specialty that people don't have film on that. 653 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: You know, teams are not gonna have film and they're 654 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: gonna be putting that, compiling that as the season goes on. 655 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: All right, let's get our final break in here we 656 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: ask the question do you put digs on a pitch count. 657 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 4: The answer is, note, there's another player. Do you put 658 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: this player on a pitch count. Let's dive into this 659 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: key weapon for the Cowboys when we come back with 660 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: HEC Mahrrison, Barry Church on the scrutch players. 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Numinate yourself for the biggest Cowboy 702 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: fan you know for a chance to be named the 703 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Fan of the Year and win prizes 704 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: including a trip to Super Bowl fifty nine. Visit Dallas 705 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: Cowboys dot com slash Fan of the Year Gold Cowboys 706 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: super Bowl fifty nine coming up below. 707 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: It's like that fifty nine Cowboys last playing in Super 708 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: Bowl thirty. 709 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: It's been a long time, been a long time. Hey, 710 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: he knew, knew. I had the gumby, I had the gumpy. 711 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: What is that? 712 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 4: What's the gumpy? 713 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: What's the go? 714 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 8: I mean? 715 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: Think about the last time the Cowboys, the things that 716 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: were in style. Nobody had to cut. Nobody has cut, 717 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 4: nobody has. Bill Clinton was the president, I mean Jared 718 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 4: McGuire when he released When the Cowboys. Yes, yes, it's 719 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: a long time ago. 720 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: Man, Gonna thirty was a minute bro nine to say 721 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: a picture of you were this gumpy man. Listen, I'm listen. No, 722 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that. I'm not Now what you're 723 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: not gonna do is gask me up what you knew? 724 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: He are not gonna do. I just y, but I'm 725 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: not gonna let you ask. What's the gumpy looked like? Yeah, 726 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: it's like. 727 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: Part of participating in the show Man the show Man 728 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: that the. 729 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: People side side the playing line. I had the whole 730 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: gumpy bro shoot. 731 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: I was working in Cleveland that year. I say this. 732 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: About to show you on my phone. I am not 733 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 2: seeing because you are not crack Part two about bro what? Yes, 734 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: because I had the gumpy so I love it bigger 735 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: than definitely, manap. 736 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 8: Not so much. 737 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 4: We asked earlier in the show, should there be a 738 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 4: pitch count on corner Travon Diggs coming back from injury? 739 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: And we said no. I asked this question now about 740 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb, the wide receiver just signed this big deal, 741 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 4: missed all the training camp. Here is he on a 742 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: pitch count because you get a hamstring pull, you know, 743 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: some type of lower leg injury? Man, and you know, 744 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 4: so how much do you play your key offensive your 745 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: best offensive weapon. 746 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: Let me answer this for you. Hell ain't no pitch 747 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 2: count you out there? We outside, all right? We outside 748 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: tonight we outside, No, sir, There's no way you could 749 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 2: go into Cleveland with the pressure that they presented as 750 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 2: a defense and limit anything that Ceedee Lamb has, because 751 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's gonna be all hands on deck 752 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: you have to have, especially if you establish any kind 753 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: of balance with that running game. If that running game 754 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: is popping, Ceedee Lamb is going to eat because he 755 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 2: is going to be matched up man man, and they're 756 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: not gonna they're not gonna change their spots because they're 757 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: coming up against Ceedee Lambing. When you examine this roster 758 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: of the Cleveland Browns, they got some dogs. I know 759 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 2: we're gonna dig deep into it tomorrow, so I won't 760 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: go too far. But I'm just telling you you cannot 761 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: go ahead. Well look look it's the thing is, you're 762 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: gonna be disneyl Awards. Probably gonna travel. 763 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 4: Some cold too. 764 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 6: You can tell you cold. One Thorn Hill is cold. 765 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 6: It's lighting up justin Jefferson. 766 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: They have some guys in that secondary that don't play around, 767 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: and look, you know why they don't. They have goons 768 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 2: in the front. And look, we're gonna talk about guys 769 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: like Miles Garrett. He is awesome, but Jeremiah or Wusu, 770 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: Coreyl Moore, he is so one and here is the 771 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: guy that brings all the energy to what they do. 772 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: But honestly, it's like when you have that kind of 773 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 2: pass rush, it makes life, as we've talked about, so 774 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: much easier for those guys because they feel like, look, 775 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 2: we can lock you up long enough for Miles to 776 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: get home. But hey, we've seen in games versus Houston 777 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: when that don't work, and that don't work, we got 778 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: somebody that can work it. Now I'm with you on that. Heck. 779 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it'd be hard to kind of 780 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,959 Speaker 6: kind of hide them out there a little bit, because 781 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 6: you know, I was thinking, maybe you can take him 782 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 6: out of a run, you know, rundowns and then bring 783 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 6: them back. But then you know, coordinators are too smartness 784 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 6: League and I'll black CD's out to stack them, but 785 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 6: they'll figure it out. So it'd be tough to kind 786 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 6: of get him on and off on a on a 787 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 6: pitch count. Plus, like you said, if he's out and 788 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 6: you're trying to be productive offensively, especially in a passing attack. 789 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 6: Who who out there has proven was a time proofing 790 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 6: consistency that they can go out there and win the 791 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 6: one on one matchups. I mean Cooks back in the 792 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 6: day could have I haven't seen it last year, ferg 793 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 6: he hasn't not got that's my man for you, But 794 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 6: he's I don't know if he can get you those 795 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 6: big chunks like a CD can. 796 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 4: I don't know if he can. 797 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 6: He gonna get you those five to ten yards, but 798 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 6: can he get you those chunks like CD camp, I'm 799 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 6: not so sure. And then Tolbert, this will be his 800 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 6: first you know season where he's gonna be, you know, 801 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 6: a big time factor as far as offense, you know. 802 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 4: Catching passes and stuff. So to me, you gotta play 803 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: pay CD out there. 804 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 6: You gotta make sure he's not on a pitch count because, 805 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 6: like I said, coordinators will figure out when he's in 806 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 6: and when he's not what this offense wants to do. 807 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 6: And if he's not on the football field, it's gonna 808 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 6: be hard for this passing attack to be productive. 809 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: Let's in this with a yes no questions we get 810 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: toward the end of this show, yes no, yes, no, yes, no, 811 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 4: I like, and I'll started. Does Michael Parsons win the 812 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: NFL Defensive Player of the Year award? Put me down 813 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 4: his note B that's it big. He ain't gonna get it. 814 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: No straight off. You know what, he's so dramatic, this guy. 815 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 2: It's being down like god. 816 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 4: New defensive coordinator. 817 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 10: I got. 818 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 4: You're still worried about what I see up front? You know, 819 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 4: first place schedule right now. 820 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: I don't. 821 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 4: I don't feel. I'm not feeling. I'm not feeling, So 822 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 4: I go, I went right there. Look, I think my 823 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: man is gonna rebrand this year. I think we're going 824 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 4: from rebranding, we're going from the bazooka to the missile. 825 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 4: When I he would be forever referred to as the missile, 826 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 4: the missile for now and answers yes, absolutely, yes, yes, 827 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 4: for sure. There's only one other man not named Reggie 828 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: White that can say that they had the most success 829 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 4: that he's had in his seasons as an NFL player. 830 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go. 831 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 6: Okay, for myself, I'm with I'm actually with Heck on 832 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 6: this one. 833 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 4: I'm with the Heck on this one. 834 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 6: This man, I think was the past three years he's 835 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 6: been top three you know, as far as you know voting. 836 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 6: When it comes to the defensive Player of the Year, 837 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 6: and this year, I think he'll make not only you know, 838 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 6: he'll get his sad. 839 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 4: I feel like he'll get his ass. 840 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 6: He'll be double digit sacked, but I'll make more impact 841 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 6: plays when it comes to I think forced fumble, scooping funnels, 842 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 6: maybe an interception here too. I think they're going to 843 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 6: use them all over the charts. So yeah, I think 844 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 6: this will be the first time. This will be his 845 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 6: first opportunity the missile to get the missile my Badzuka, 846 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 6: the mismissile miss won't get it done. 847 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 2: But that you got, I mean yes and no, I'm 848 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: on that. I will tell you what I'm selling you, dog, 849 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 2: I'm not selling I ain't say. I ain't selling you good. 850 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 2: You're good, You're good. I ain't no. Hope, that's real 851 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: that you already know what Michael's bringing. So it's not 852 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 2: am I selling you on nothing that Michae's got. The 853 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: numbers are there. The numbers are there. You know it 854 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 2: supports it. 855 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 4: Let me let me ask you this. And y'all worried 856 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 4: about the podcast? Are y'all worried about any of these 857 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 4: four rookies that are going to be thrown into the 858 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 4: starting lineup. 859 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, of course, yes, sir, Dyton guy, the BB left 860 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 13: tackle man against mine left tackles. 861 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 4: Yes, it should worry you. He was a right tackle 862 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 4: in college. Left tackle out here. Cooper Bebe's never played center. 863 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 4: He was an outstanding All American player at Kansas at 864 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 4: guard h this is a change. Yeah, you should be worried. 865 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 4: Corner out here, Jason Mark Cooper, you should be worried. 866 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 4: You should have a concern. I'm not saying that this 867 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 4: can't be a good rookie class. This is a tough 868 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 4: team to go play and go on the road for 869 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 4: your first game. So yes, you should have concern. I 870 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 4: am I am a naturally just be concerned guy, because dude, 871 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 4: you Jim Schwartz man, you are already rookies soon. 872 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: Tackle. 873 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 4: Let's figure out how. Jim schwartz is a really good. 874 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: Coordinate and that's a super Bowl time and won a 875 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 876 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 4: This is a really good cordner. So he's gonna Everybody's 877 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 4: going to test these guys, and you have to. Everybody's 878 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 4: gonna test him. So and this is where Mike McCarthy 879 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 4: as a head coach, and I think Mike McCarthy when 880 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 4: you look at the last three years and you're talking 881 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 4: to look about rookies and where guys have performed, I 882 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 4: think Mike's done a really good I don't think he 883 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 4: gets enough credit, which is why I think is wild. 884 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 4: And this man is on a one year contract and 885 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 4: not not have an extension. Already he's done. He's shown 886 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 4: you he can develop guys. And I'm not saying that 887 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 4: I don't think they can be devel looked that they 888 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 4: can't be good players. But this first game I just 889 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 4: think is a challenge. 890 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 2: Look for me, I've seen enough of Cooper BB and 891 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: I know exactly what kind of player is. And you know, 892 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 2: like you say, man, when you get to the arena, 893 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: either some guys have it and they don't, and some 894 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: guys just have that propensity to be that player that 895 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: they won't it, you know. And he's that guy that 896 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: I believe wants it, and I think he's in between 897 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: two players that can elevate his game the same way 898 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: that you see that offensive line out in San Francisco 899 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: because of Trent Williams. When you have a guy on 900 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: the left and right of you like Zach Martin and 901 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 2: Smith Dog. I think that elevates and that makes things 902 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 2: even more comfortable when you're going into war with the 903 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 2: team that you know is going to pressure. You got 904 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: two of the best and in the middle of the field. 905 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: If you can open those holes and protect in the 906 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: middle of the field. And I'm not saying that Tyler 907 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: guy ain't got his work cut out for him, because 908 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 2: he does. But you guys have pointed out the fact 909 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: that you can get tight end help. You can ship 910 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 2: him over to that side. But if I'm strong in 911 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: the middle of my offensive line, and that makes up 912 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: for everything that I need as far as gutting. 913 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 4: This team defensively. 914 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, anybody any of those two that are starting to 915 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 6: get the yaufu or I'm pronouncing all type of wrong 916 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 6: Maris Maurris, You know, Carson on the outside, you're worried 917 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 6: about any and no, I think I think the talent 918 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 6: that I've seen from the linebacker room just in you know, 919 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 6: out in Oxnard, I saw that as an upgrade. I mean, obviously, 920 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 6: when you see Overshawn not be able to crack the 921 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 6: lineup it with live out in front of him. Maybe 922 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 6: what we've been thinking about Overshawan isn't accurate either, you know, 923 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 6: and maybe we have something in this rookie who we 924 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 6: already know. 925 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 2: He's gonna fly around, he's gonna hit you. He's responsible 926 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: in past pro you know, past coverage. He's and so 927 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: that's what I'm I'm leaning on with Kaitlyn Carson. Like 928 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: you just said, I'm playing zone. I got to save 929 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: thee help over that. Yeah, don't go crazy. 930 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 4: I got that got. 931 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 9: You know. 932 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: So that's all if I mean, if we're to take 933 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: in the group of like, oh no, I don't know 934 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: exactly what once you see that up there, you know, 935 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 2: I'm worried about it, man, But I think there's a 936 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 2: way you could cover that up. You already you already 937 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 2: said what it is, all right? Booi, Oh no, tomorrow 938 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 2: we get started. Tomorrow, we get started. 939 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 4: There is football. Tomorrow's the Baltimore Ravens against the Kansas 940 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 4: City Chiefs. Yeah, we got one of those two teams 941 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 4: will win the Super Bowl this year. 942 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: That's what You're not going to Jacksonville doing that. He 943 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: was so cocky about it, cocking like rocket. I got 944 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 2: something for y'all. He's got the Tarzann. 945 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 4: I didn't call him. 946 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 2: I was in on tremor. That was a stretch of 947 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 2: the games. We've all had our our comings. 948 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 5: That haven't. 949 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 8: All right. 950 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 4: Heck, bringing a gummy picture for throw back strikes Playing 951 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 4: so Lounge, brought to you by Aristocrat Game. 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