1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for not responding how my 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: sister wanted when the sun she gave up for adoption reached. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Out, Oh dude, that's pretty big. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 3: How did you respond like, Yeah. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: No, beggars can't be choosers. That's kind of what we're 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: dealing with. This is all to answer how do you 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: maintain a good relationship with your siblings? And by the way, 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: you can join us live on YouTube every weekday at 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: three pm. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Do it if you're watching us recorded. 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: This comes from Roxy Walker, who says, I fifty one male, 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: have a younger half sister, thirty five, who was born 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: from my dad's second marriage. My parents divorced when I 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: was twelve, and afterwards my dad moved to another state. 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: I visited for major holidays and six weeks during the summer. 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: I was almost sixteen when she was born, and I 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: remember celebrating her baptism, her first Christmas, first birthday, et cetera, 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: et cetera. But by the time she was a teen, 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: I was in my twenties and I was living in 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the city life all on my own, and my visits 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: were My dad had also gotten divorced from her mother 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: when she was twelve years old. Incidentally, the same age 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: when I when my own parents got divorced. Dad just 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: hits like, it's like the same way Leonardo DiCaprio hit 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: twenty five Breakup. 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: He's like, as soon as my daughter from this marriage twelve, 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: leave the marriage. Wow, oh my god. 28 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: At that point, I only visited once or twice a 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: year if that, So, like from twelve onwards she would 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: just see like once yeast year, which actually super slice 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: side note, that was kind of the situation with my 32 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: mom and her brother and her sister. 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: My mom's brother, my uncle. 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Is like seventeen years older than her, so he was 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: like going to college like basically right after she was born. 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: I thought a thirteen year difference was bad. Yeah, that's tough. 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: It's like an adult. 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like. 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: That could be your mom, or that. 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Could be your dad yeap literally literally he could. He 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: could have been like paradif dad. It's kind of a 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: wild right different. So they were half siblings though, so 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: different different okay, okay, still crazy. During one of those visits, 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: my dad told me that my sister had been pregnant 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: and he'd sent her to South America to have the baby, 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: and it was put up for adoption. 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Holy cow. 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: I actually have a friend that got the reverse. He 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: was in South America. The mom got pregnant and then 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: she got sent to America to have the kid and 51 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: put up for adoption. I got the reverse situation. That's crazy. Sorry, yeah, 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: this is kind of what it was very specific. 53 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: Also yeah, also crazy that you have the literal, exact 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: inverse scenario. 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: What is going on? 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: I texted him happy birthday yesterday, No joke, that's why. 57 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: What? 58 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: Well these birthdays today? 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: What? Sorry? Sorry? Happy birthday? 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: Lost birthday. 61 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Jar. So he went on to say that by the 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: time she realized she was pregnant, she had broken up 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: with the father, who was twenty when she was sixteen, 64 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: I know, and she was left to figure everything out. 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: She was adamant about not wanting the baby, but she 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: didn't want to terminate the pregnancy either, so the adoption 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: was arranged. 68 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: She had a son. 69 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: He was visibly emotional, but believed it was the best decision. 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: At the time, I was stunned. I hadn't really seen 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: her much during her teenage years. My dad's divorced from 72 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: her mother was acrimonious, so that, coupled with the age difference, 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: didn't leave much room for bonding. Over the years, we've 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: spoken very little. She's met my children a few times 75 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: over the years, but they don't really know each other. 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, I received a letter from an 77 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: attorney that laid out how I was identified as a 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: relative of the person they were representing, which put an 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: ic in the comments if you know that mystery relative 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: just might me. I immediately remembered what my father had 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: told me, and everything clicked. I was asked if I 82 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: would be comfortable with answering a few questions regarding my 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: dad's side of the family. Before responding, I got in 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: touch with my sister. She made it clear that I 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: should ignore the letter and act as if I had 86 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: never received it. Oh okay, I want to pause right there. 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: This isn't the update. But I feel like this is 88 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: a good thing to discuss real quick, and maybe we 89 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: get a poll. 90 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: Do we uh, yeah? Do we say something? Yes? Or no? 91 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: Very much? 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: Think say something? And I'm kind of like, why does 93 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: she not want to hear from her? Is she carrying 94 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: the guilts? Is she is there some sort of legal ramifications? 95 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: I could see the guilt. 96 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: The biggest thing because with my friend's inverse the therapy. 98 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: He grew up very well, like he figured it like 99 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: a good adoption. He had a great adoption. His parents 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: are now divorced, but it was right, so you know, 101 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah, but he went to he actually met 102 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: his mom, his birth mom, and went to therapy together, and 103 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: she was crying about like how his life was like 104 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: so much guilt. Oh yeah, it was horrible, bad, But 105 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: he was just in there like he's he's just like me. 106 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: He's goofy. Yeah, he's like Daniel, but Daniel, he's just 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 3: like we're a good trio. He's like, yeah, I'm fine, 108 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm good. There's nothing to be said about it. I 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: forgive you. It's okay. 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he like low Ki was, he was he adopted. 111 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: He was adopted at birth, so his whole life was 112 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: probably like he had like a it seems like a 113 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: much better surrounding, all all around lifestyle growing up and 114 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: didn't even really know that he was adopted. Yeah I did, 115 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: it didn't. It's like, yeah, how can you? It's like 116 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: kind of almost a little bit similar to how your 117 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: your grandpa passes away before you're born and you're like, 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: how can I be about it? 119 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: I literally I have. 120 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: Like no bond with them, you know what I mean. 121 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: He also had a black brother, so I think he 122 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: did kind of get an idea of life that he 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: was adopted. 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well he maybe he knew he was adopted. Sorry, yeah, 125 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: I didn't say that he wasn't aware that he was adopted, 126 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: but more so that it didn't feel out of line 127 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: of a hell guy sold growing up. 128 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what I was saying. 129 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I see. 130 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: So the last story is over by by audios. Here's 131 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: where we're at right now, and a quick deal there 132 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: you actually come to craym in a great time where 133 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: we took a pause. So basically, Opie has a much 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: younger half sister, I think a twelve years difference. Twelve 135 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: years difference, and Opie found out the half sister ended 136 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: up having a baby at sixteen, and their shared father 137 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: sent her to South America to give birth and adopt 138 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: the kid away. 139 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: Oh wow, yes, and crazy America. 140 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: And crazily enough, Riley literally knows someone in real life 141 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: who had the exact inverse texting him right now it's 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: his birthday. He was in the exact inver scenario. His 143 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: his birth mom flew from South America to America to 144 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: uh give birth. 145 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: To give birth and send him to an adopted an 146 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: adopted family. Crazy. 147 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: So basically now the child is reaching out with legal 148 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: representation to talk to OPI, who is the half aunt, 149 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: who is their half aunt. But Opie's sister, the birth mom, 150 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: was like. 151 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna need the board. You're right, op, he's Opie's mom. 152 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: The birth uh sister was like, pretend that letter doesn't exist, 153 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: basically ignore my child's existence. 154 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, break it down, okay, So. 155 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: Uh op is op Okay, but like like uh and 156 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: then there's the half sister. 157 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: Okay, half sister and father. Half sister and father. Ye, 158 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: half sister gave birth to the baby baby, so child 159 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: in South America, yep. Okay, So half sister has this 160 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: this baby at sixteen, he said, yep, at sixteen. And 161 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: what's the dad trying to do? Is this the dad 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: of Ope in the half both of them, so you 163 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: can almost yeah, put the dad above. 164 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Okay, the dad now is not involved, but he was 165 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: the one that hatter sent to South America to adopt 166 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: the baby away. 167 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: All right, I think I'm I think I'm following. And 168 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: now now this kid who was adopted away in South 169 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: America reaching out to op. 170 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: Reaching out so like, I'm going to do a little 171 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: phone here. 172 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: So not even as far as we know, we don't 173 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: know that he's reached out to the half sister yet. Okay, 174 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: we know for sure that she's reached out, that they 175 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: have reached out to. 176 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: OPI, and so what's the issue here. 177 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: The issue is half sister says, pretend that letter doesn't exist, 178 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: ignore everything from my child, do not respond, basically, pretend 179 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: my kid doesn't exist. 180 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: So cause wait, wait, but oh oh, the baby is 181 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: reaching out to OPE. 182 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Exactly, we don't know that the half city that they 183 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: have done any outreach half sister. But OPE went to 184 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: the half sister and was like, Yo, your kid's reaching 185 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: out to me, right, which is hey, one would expect that. 186 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: I was like, that's kind of crazy. 187 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: And then the half sisters like, don't respond, pretend they 188 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: don't exist, essentially, So that's where we're at right now, 189 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: and Chat has saying uh percent, yes, say something to 190 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: the talk to the child. 191 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 2: I feel like the child deserves to know, or the 192 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: child deserves to know. 193 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: They were blowing out of the country completely disconnected. You 194 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: know why even go to South America doesn't make any sense. 195 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it's like worse to get adopted over there. 196 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: I would I would guess. 197 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: Like the adoption, like adoption in the States is already terrible, 198 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: but in countries where it's like poor. 199 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Even Riley's friends was in the inverse scenario, which is 200 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: usually what you do. 201 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: Unless there were maybe some yeah, who knows, who knows? 202 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: But I am fully following. I have my diagram. There 203 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: we go, lovely and yeah, I got it. We here, baby, 204 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: I'm here, I'm here, I'm ready. I do think that Ope, 205 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: he should give information to the half sister's baby. 206 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: Yes, so how old is the said child now? 207 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: Her son is now nineteen years old, nineteen and actively 208 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: trying to get in touch with her. She has zero 209 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: desire to meet him. The conversation left me torn because 210 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: he's already made progress in finding her, not wanting to 211 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: acknowledge this situation won't stop what's been set in motion. 212 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: After this conversation, I sent the letter back, declining to 213 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: answer on paper, but wrote a note on the form 214 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: that it would preferred to be contacted by phone. The 215 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: law firm got in touch with me shortly afterwards. I 216 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: just acknowledged what they already knew, who our mutual father was, 217 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: who our grandparents in South America were. So in South America, 218 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: the family is from South America. Oh so that's why 219 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: they went over there. Yes, okay, so there is there's 220 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: someone over here that's in South America. 221 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 222 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: So the baby's great grandparents are originally from South America. 223 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: So we guess we're guessing they immigrated into where wherever 224 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: country they live in. 225 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I'm gonna put a little South America there 226 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: we go in there. 227 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: Yha. 228 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't look suggestive at all. Yeah, South America. 229 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: Right, what's the what's the antennas for? 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: It's Mexico. 231 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: They put a nice little line o on the top 232 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: of there. 233 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: It looks like it's a border. 234 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: John, It looks like an alien with antennas. 235 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 4: But that is a perfect drawing of South America. 236 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: Put put just put a border on the top. What 237 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: do you mean? No, No, all you had to do 238 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: is put it in. Here we go, Here we go, John, 239 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: This is just for you. There we go. She did 240 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: a great job before. 241 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 4: Actually, thanks. 242 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: Okay. 243 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: So basically it was confirmation of the family tree. Nothing 244 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: that was a big reveal. My sister called me this 245 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: past weekend Live It. She told me I had no 246 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: right to quote unquote butt into her past and I 247 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: should have just quote unquote respected her feelings. Now she 248 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: is claiming that her husband of eight years is finding 249 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: out about this and it could ruin her marriage. 250 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: Well, maybe you should have told him about that. There's 251 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: a little something called the truth. Would you get married? 252 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: How do you not? 253 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 4: I feel like you should confess everything that you've ever 254 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 4: done that's terrible before you get married and say like, hey, 255 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: are you sure facts? You should like one hundred percent, 256 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: because then it's just going to come in and ruin 257 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 4: it and. 258 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: You're gonna be left sad and alone. 259 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. Hello, where those Cody Co controversy? Oh my gosh, 260 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: I know it was hell heck at Cody Code. 261 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: That what we talked about yesterday. 262 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a new video that just came out that 263 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: I haven't haven't seen, And I was just thinking, Nan 264 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: man just got married, had a baby, Like I wonder, 265 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: I wonder if if. 266 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 3: You know, dude, doctor disrespect sketch and now Cody Co 267 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: guess his things is fine, but like it all happened 268 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: this month. 269 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: Uh wow, Cracy Town will be a lot as a 270 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: South American in physical pain? What's what's wrong with this 271 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: South America? 272 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: This is good? Please critique? 273 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: Oh no, what are you talking about? 274 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: So, Opie continues, Our dad has since passed away, and 275 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: I can't imagine how terrible he would feel knowing that 276 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: all of this is transpiring and how ugly things became. 277 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: Am I the ahole for answering the most. 278 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: Basic questions presented to me and not ignoring the entire 279 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: situation as she requested? We have relevant comments, we have, 280 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: and that's it. But let's answer this before we get 281 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: into relevant comments. 282 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: There he is. 283 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: We've already had people that voted that they should that 284 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: Opie should have said something so like, Opie's not the ahole? 285 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: Do you agree for saying which she said. I don't 286 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: think so. I don't think yeah. 287 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: And even like she she didn't say anything like like 288 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: she just basically said like yes that she she said 289 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: very factual, like non informational things. 290 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: Which I mean, I think is what the kid kind 291 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: of deserves. I don't feel bad about the marriage breaking up. 292 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: If you didn't tell your partner that that's you, you 293 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: deserve it. Yeah, the marriage wasn't strong enough to begin with, 294 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: straight up, straight. 295 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Up, I think what Opie actually, you know what, there 296 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: is an argument for OPI being the a hole that 297 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: OPI didn't share enough because because the. 298 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: Kid is, you know, has no idea who they're, they're 299 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: you know what. 300 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: They're probably trying to get health information so that way 301 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: they know is there anything. 302 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: Anything of the. 303 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: Family, probably contact, probably wants to they probably they could 304 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of trauma associated with with with being abandon. 305 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: I just want to know, like where you come from. 306 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: So I think it is completely okay. Yes, I think 307 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: it's completely I think I think op but like I 308 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: think I don't think op needed to do more. I 309 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: think what op did was already good. 310 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: And I think I think right now it's like it's 311 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: not even like oh, it's like one and done. I 312 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: think op is kind of on the fence of like 313 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: it seems like Opie's leaning towards continuing the interaction and sharing. 314 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: More, which is good. 315 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: I think is good. 316 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: I think you kind of it's it's almost like cheating 317 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: where we say like, oh, you go to the person 318 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: of like tell them or I I will or like 319 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: or send it, or tell your kid or I will 320 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: or or or send it anonymously like yeah, tell your 321 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: kid or I will, because it's like I just. 322 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: Tell like like I feel like there's no reason to 323 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: tell the kid. All right, Actually here different question. Yes, Okay, 324 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 4: so you say your sperm donor and you donate and 325 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: it's just like you're you're you sign the thing where 326 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: it's like I don't want contact with any children that 327 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: come from this. Are you still morally obligated to see 328 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: those children? 329 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: I think that person, I'll flip it a little bit 330 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: and ask what is more hurtful for the child's and 331 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: what might want them to like reach out and have 332 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: that contact with the dad. It's like, okay, it's almost like, hey, 333 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: you abandoned me versus oh you were like. 334 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: One of doing this billion people. Yeah, one of a 335 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: billion people. 336 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: You Like the whole agreement between everyone was like oh, hey, 337 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm giving you my sperm and you know I'm 338 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: doing this like I don't know pay. 339 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: For a lot of people do close adoptions too, so 340 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: like like in terms of in terms of their kid 341 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: doesn't know who they are, so they could adopt without 342 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: any or so they can like give away the child 343 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: with like noe, like with all strings. 344 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: Cut right right, because yeah, what if the family there's 345 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: like some something dangerous or or harmful with being connected 346 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: associated with the family, Yeah, something, so they like want 347 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: to do that? Yeah, I think now I could see 348 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: I could see a lot of people and you. 349 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: Know, someone said this in the uh someone said this 350 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 4: in the comments. But what if she was essayed m 351 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: And it's like I don't, like, you know, I I 352 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: don't want to think about this. I just want like 353 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: I don't I don't want my past to catch up 354 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: to me. I'm pass this. And thus, you know, I 355 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 4: wanted to do a closed adoption where I hope be 356 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: using that word right, close adoption where where no one 357 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: knows no, like like the kid doesn't know who I 358 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: am because I don't. Yeah, I don't want to have 359 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: to deal with the repercussions of like a horriblelod. Yeah, 360 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 4: that's a very different situation as far as I'm saying that, 361 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: that's what that situation is. Yeah, yeah, we do have 362 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: somewhere relevant comments we might learn more, but as far 363 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: as we know, that wasn't the case. Well, the one 364 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: thing we do have, which is helpful context for you, 365 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: is the father was twenty she was sixteen. 366 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: That was sixteen when she gave birth. So context, but 367 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: we have these relevant comments to close it out. Definitely 368 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't make it look better, makes it look very bad. 369 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah right, So Lucy loves Apple says, info, what did 370 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: you tell her son that she didn't want contact? Opie 371 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: says having interacted with him at all, seems the law 372 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: firm that represents him was just trying to tie up 373 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: loose ends about our dad and grandparents in South America. Okay, 374 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: so maybe it's literally just trying to confirm the family tree. 375 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: I didn't share any insight on her state of mind 376 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: or even her lack of wanting to meet him. I 377 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: didn't validate anything other than our mutual DNA. Your ghost 378 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: FRIENDO says you're the ahole. Not only was it not 379 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: your story to tell, but for all you tried to 380 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: tell us how separated you are from that part of 381 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: the family, you decided to put yourself right in the 382 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: middle of it. You saying that you would not answer 383 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: unless it was a phone call really settles it. 384 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: You wanted your. 385 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: Half sister to be confronted with a situation you know 386 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: nothing about. 387 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: You just didn't want to do it. In writing, I mean, she. 388 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: Did go against and again, if there was a situation 389 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: where she was essayed or something like that, like that 390 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: is a completely different scenario. 391 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: There's no mention of that. 392 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: And if we're just going by what's literally in the story, 393 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we don't know deeper information on 394 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: how she felt. You know, the dad basically forced her 395 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: to The dad was like, you're going to go to 396 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: South America and have his baby. That's what the dad 397 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: dictated down. And he did feel guilty, I believe later 398 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: in his life. And now he's dead. So dad is gone, 399 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: and it's just the sister that knows that the bio 400 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: model has the secrets, that knows. 401 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: The full story of what went down. 402 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: So maybe she does have a perfectly legitimate reason, but 403 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: we don't know that. 404 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. 405 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 2: I feel like I still don't see OP as the 406 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: a hole. 407 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah I don't think I do. I don't think I 408 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: do either, OPI responds, I didn't appreciate being contacted by 409 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: a law firm on behalf of a sister I didn't 410 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: have a close relationship with when they initially reached out 411 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: to her. Instead of ignoring everything, she probably should have 412 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: handled her own situation privately, she chose not to do that. 413 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: She just wanted the situation to go away. 414 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: Had she been clear about not wanting to be contacted, 415 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: I really doubt I would have been approached at all. 416 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: That's why I chose the phone call route. 417 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to go on the record of having nothing 418 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: more to say on the matter, ask and answered, and 419 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: that is the end of the story. 420 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: And so yeah, so let's quickly break down, like. 421 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, did op make the right move now that we 422 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: have all of the context of full story comments, I. 423 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 4: Mean, I can't. I came in a little late, but 424 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 4: so excuse me if I'm not understanding anything. But I 425 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: feel that it isn't really like it wasn't terrible what 426 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 4: OPI did. 427 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: And they didn't. They didn't say this for a fact. 428 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: But she was like, I only basically confirmed like the 429 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: family tree of like literally like the facts of who 430 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: the relatives were, which probably goes in line with health stuff. 431 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: Is there any sort of like familial disease. 432 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: It's like she like dish some massive tea. It was. 433 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: It was like the basics of it. 434 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I definitely think that the adopted children at 435 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: the barest bearish barish of minimums deserve to know any 436 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: health risks associated with the family line. Yeah, which it 437 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: kind of seems like this could have easily. 438 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: Been so, I mean, yeah, So in conclusion, I don't 439 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 4: think the a hill, but it seems like some people 440 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: on Reddit disagree with us. 441 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: I also agree not the hill. 442 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: But dude, I was seeing some stuff in the chat 443 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: about people. There's a Netflix documentary about a sperm donor 444 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: with five hundred and fifty kids. 445 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: I did see to. 446 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: One and a half thousand. 447 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 448 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: I did see the title one. 449 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: Thousand children or something A thousand kids. That's that's so many. 450 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's kind of crazy. 451 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I used to be like a sperm 452 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: donor or whatever, but now I'm like, dude, being a 453 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: sperm donor is kind of crazy. 454 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, you could, it could. Your sperm can go 455 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: far and wide, Like that's literally your your biological biog, 456 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: your DNA. 457 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: Dude a little it's a little crazy. 458 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 4: It's a lot of power to donate your sperm, but 459 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: also like a lot of responsibility. Responsibility. 460 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're you're literally removing the responsibility from it, 461 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: but there is an inherent responsibility. 462 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 4: I think people are gonna try, Like if you have 463 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: like a thousand kids, you're saying like not like like 464 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 4: a bunch of them are probably gonna try to find you, right, 465 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: you know you're gonna have like like vision quest to 466 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 4: go find you. Yeah, they're gonna like every couple of months, 467 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: there's gonna be a new kid that's gonna be like, 468 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: you're my dad. 469 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: Dude. If I was a sperm donor, I'd have a 470 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: note for every like pup that I spermed in and 471 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: like be like here's what I look like, this is 472 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: what I do, and I'm really cool. 473 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: Well, I think the whole point of it. You think 474 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: they keep her a cup though. 475 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: They don't keep the cup. No, no, no, it's a little 476 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 3: note like you put it in a little bottle. So 477 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: you got the bottle and then you got the bottle 478 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: of sperm and you give them both. 479 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 480 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: I think in many cases, uh, the mom will will 481 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: like legally deny. 482 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 4: That, yeah, because yeah, because she does. She doesn't want 483 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: you to have any connection into the sperm down her loss. 484 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: Because I'm a baller, you. 485 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: Are, dude, those cups would be honored to have your 486 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: your your gs and them, but. 487 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: We're selling them at five hundred of pop. Ladies, just 488 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: let us know, and. 489 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: I get five hundred of pop five. 490 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: Hundred, five hundred, five hundred, actually fifty. 491 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: Your price is way higher than that. 492 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 4: There not, No, dude, I'm not I'm not giving a 493 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: giving away my guys. This is. 494 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: What anyways, this is not happening. Okay, guys, So. 495 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: Let's answer the question of the episode, which is, how 496 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: do you maintain a good relationship with your siblings? Where 497 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: is the line where it goes into being damaging or 498 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: disrespectful to your sibling? 499 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: See Wednesday Mama Misfit says, I'll pay Riley stop. You 500 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 4: got it first. 501 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: You got your first, your first customer, because I think 502 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: there is I think there's a lot of potential customers 503 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: in chat right now. Not even gonna lie, I'm not 504 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: even gonna know. 505 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: You're worth kid, thank you can really getting away your sperm. 506 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: It would probably have to be through a like why 507 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: why wouldn't it be legal? 508 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: Because there's probably that's that's so loaded. If you if 509 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: you give someone your sperm, then they're probably probably legally The. 510 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: Father definitely can sell you. I think you could tell 511 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 2: you it's your, it's your. 512 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: You got to go through like a why why you 513 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: go through an intermediary to make sure that it's like you. 514 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: Have to go through an intermediary to have sex. No, 515 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 4: but do you want kind of donating sperm to one person? 516 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: Stop? What are we doing right now? Oh? 517 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: That's you, thanks buddy, that you Yeah. I feel like 518 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: with the siblings, I mean you can kind of say 519 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: it's almost for any relationship, is anything that. 520 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: Dude? 521 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: Guys, guys, what callon of John? 522 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: Stop? Stop? No one's getting it. 523 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: You can't even do the show like this is so 524 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: we've been completely derailed. 525 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: We've been completely Oh my god, Bill Conkling. 526 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: No, there's a ninety day fiance guy who does sperm 527 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: done issue through Tinder and bumble whoa. I mean they'll 528 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: probably they could probably legally be like, yo, you're the father, 529 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: give me whatever. 530 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, child support, child support, child support, that that's the issue. 531 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was saying. 532 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: That's what. But if you're down to pay a billion 533 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 4: dollars child, just go for it. Sweet hotty a swirl. 534 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: Oh dude, that's me. 535 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: That is Riley, right, Riley is what you get. 536 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: Also, sometimes I matched with John and today I'm asking 537 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 3: with Sam. Look at this, Look at his fit. 538 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: That's true. Oh you guys are so matching right now? 539 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: What the heck? 540 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: Even the yeah, you're right, Holy crap, I think we're 541 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think that's that's that's the 542 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: whole episode. Well, if you love us, make sure to 543 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: subscribe We love. 544 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: You, and sit it. Have your children. This is an 545 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: episode from Deep within the Archives. 546 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: Time for okop relam. 547 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: It's so unfair, wrongly imprison me. 548 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Get ready for some blackmail that will destroy your police department. 549 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: Sounds like the blackmail is gonna be like that cop 550 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: orgy thing that's been all over the news lately. 551 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm unaware of this. Oh yeah, there was this. 552 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 4: There was this police department somewhere in the country that 553 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 4: was just having like these parties every week and on duty, 554 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 4: and the whole police department was in on it. It 555 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: was basically like Hugh Keefner's playboy mansion, but with sexy 556 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: police officers. And if you look up like police officer 557 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 4: meme or whatever, there's a couple faces that pop up now, 558 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 4: the boys in blue and the women in blue. God, 559 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: thank you for your service. Always, Thank you. For servicing me. 560 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: That's what they said at the end of the parties. 561 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I believe it. 562 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: Hey it's a bit noisy in here. You need to 563 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: quiet down. 564 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't. I'm gonna have to handcuff you if you're 565 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: getting too frisky. Oh god, let me uh, let me 566 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 4: frisk you. Let me shoot my shot over here? Uniform? 567 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: Nice Okay. 568 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: Back in November of twenty eighteen, I was arrested at 569 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: work in front of my boss and my coworkers. 570 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: Why that is awful. 571 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: It's a little embarrassing, or it's badass, Like have you 572 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: ever seen there, like the teenage movies where it's like. 573 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: Can you arrest me in front of all my friends? 574 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: And they think that's sick? Wow, that's Have you ever 575 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: seen super Bow? Oh that was yeah, yeah, superdad. 576 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 4: Super baddy like mclovin gets arrested in front of the 577 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: school and the girl was like, oh my god, it 578 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: was badass like that. 579 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, high schoolers are idiots? 580 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: Or are they super smart or the geniuses genii? 581 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: This was the most humiliating thing I have ever experienced. 582 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: I later learned at the police station that I was 583 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: being charged with multiple felonies for what God, I want 584 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: to know what? All right, well, let's see this cave 585 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: is a huge surprise to me. Luckily, I was able 586 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: to keep my wits and lawyer up instead of speaking 587 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: with a detective for thirteen thousand dollars which completely wiped 588 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: my savings. Oh my god, I was able to retain 589 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: a criminal defense attorney. 590 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: Yikes, what system is AFT up? 591 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: AFT? 592 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to know what he charged with Madad. 593 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: However, it cost me everything and I was unable to 594 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: pay my bond. This resulted in me staying in jail 595 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: for a total of fifty four days. 596 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 597 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: Wow, it gives you time to read maybe, you know. 598 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: Work out a little bit, work out a little bit. 599 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you would actually have to pay money for an 600 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: Equinox membership to get the kind of body you're going 601 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 4: to be coming out of prison with. 602 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: I feel like prison is just free equinoxes. Like that. 603 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: There's a kernel that a comedian can like. 604 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 4: No, No, prison is literally a retreat where, No, you're 605 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: not addicted to your phone anymore, no social media. You 606 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 4: get to work out, you have a community of fellas. Ye, 607 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: you know, like like people are always Yeah, people people 608 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: like are always saying, oh, man, like I have no community, 609 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: join a gang in prison. Next. 610 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: Next a KOP episode is we took we took Sam 611 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: to a prison quote, it's just free. 612 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 4: Equoox are already wearing orange, so we're ready to go. 613 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: We actually also in a jumpsuit. 614 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the jumpsuit thumbnails are going to be very easy. Yeah, dude, 615 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: we went to prison and it made our. 616 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: YouTube career pop off off. 617 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: Thanks prison, thank you. Okay, back back to our prison books. 618 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: Oh actually maybe not so. 619 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: As a status hearing, my attorney presented video evidence of 620 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: me gassing up my car three hours away from where 621 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: the crimes took place, and I ended up having all 622 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: my charges dismissed. 623 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: It was proven he literally did nothing. 624 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm glad that he was found to be not guilty. 625 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: I'm angry that he spent fifty four days in prison. 626 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: Like, how is this possible? 627 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: His crime fifty four days was was filling up on gas. 628 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: He was the only person he murdered was the environment. Okay, 629 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: all those baby seals, dude, and the art take don't care. 630 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: When I finally got out, I learned I had lost 631 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: my job. 632 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: It keeps kidding worse. 633 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: My god, and and I was in the process of 634 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: being evicted and my son was taken away and is 635 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: now in. 636 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: The state's care. 637 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 4: They fuck his life. 638 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: I literally completely destroyed every single aspect of his life, 639 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: every single thing. His his job, his house, his child, 640 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: was his kid free. 641 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: We may never know, all, right, Sam. 642 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: Always asked the important questions that there are never answers 643 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: to doing these stories. We still don't know what he 644 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: was charged with. 645 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: I want to know what he's charged with. Dude, fifty 646 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: four days in prison. 647 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: And all of that stuff too, like well technically jail, jail, okay, 648 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: now in prison. Yeah. 649 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: Still his mother is a drug addict and I haven't 650 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: spoken to my own parents in nearly fifteen years. No, 651 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: they wouldn't let him go to my girlfriend because they 652 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: didn't consider her family. So I guess it's like of 653 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: all the people that were like eligible, like obviously his 654 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: girlfriend would have been the best person, but like they're like, no, 655 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: all of these people. 656 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: That's why he got a marrier man and then Op 657 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: proposed and. 658 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: The god Yeah, this is my love story. The plot twist, OKOPI. 659 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: Since my release, I've learned that I can't sue the 660 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: police and no one cares that I was locked up 661 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: for fifty four days because the detective did poor investigative work. 662 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: How is that fair? 663 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 4: That who police is? The police? 664 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: That's the actual question. 665 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 4: Are you You can't know, but you can sue a 666 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: police department for like wrongful? Isn't wrongful? Imprisonment like a thing. 667 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 4: He's learned that he can't sue the police. Remember that 668 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 4: there was that guy that like he was like the 669 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 4: I think he was a producer a Black Panther or something, 670 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 4: and he went to deposit like twenty grand in cash 671 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: at his bank account and then he got the director 672 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: of Yeah, yeah, oh, I guess that's the bank got sued, 673 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: not the police department. 674 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was probably the bank, because I think the 675 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: bank called the police and was like, hey, this guy 676 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: is deposing a lot of money because he fucking directed 677 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: the Marvel movie Black Panther. 678 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: Come on. Ah. 679 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: And then I heard that he like was recreating it 680 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: for television or something, or like he was like he 681 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: went to I heard he like basically it happened again 682 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: like right after. 683 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow, I think I saw the I 684 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: watched the video of the original one. 685 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: And it was like so annoying. The migraines. Damn, dude, 686 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: that sucks. Yeah he is. He's basically like, I can't 687 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 2: sue a police department. 688 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: Maybe in his state ors according to Op's information. So 689 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: I've gone to the local press about this and was 690 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: told that what happened to me happens quite a bit. 691 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 4: My god, Oh someone's about to arrest us. Please don't 692 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 4: swat our place. 693 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: Don't do that. They took down my info but never 694 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: followed up. So what I did was I created a 695 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: website sharing my story, which is gene so smart. 696 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 4: And now we're trying to do our partment by sharing 697 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 4: this story with all of you. 698 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: I also uploaded the police support and some other documents 699 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: from the discovery. 700 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 4: Nice. 701 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: Literally, the only reason I was arrested is because an 702 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: eyewitness said they saw me. 703 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: Did they say like, oh, that guy looks like Ope, 704 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: like like first name, last name, OPI, They said they 705 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: saw me. 706 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: So is it someone Opie knows? They said they saw me? 707 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: Is it someone Opie knows? 708 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 4: That would be like tattletale wrongfully, It's like, yo, I 709 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: saw John at the supermarket, Oh my god. 710 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: And maybe it was. 711 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if they called called op by name 712 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: or what but okay, not full clarification, but if the 713 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: detective had done his job, he could have verified that 714 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: I wasn't even in town on the day that the 715 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: crime took place. 716 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 717 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: Wow, this is what pisces me off the most. My 718 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: life was ruined because of a lazy employee, which is 719 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: a hilarious way to say, like lazy employee, Like this 720 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: is a detective who's holding people's fates like op's in 721 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: their hands. 722 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: I know. It's so crazy that people like that have 723 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: like power over your life. 724 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: Just like you up and you're just and you're helpless, 725 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: you're just filling up your gas. 726 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean not to praise Elon Musk or anything, 727 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 4: but I once heard an interview where he's like, a 728 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 4: country is a corporation with absolute control of violence. 729 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: That is the bar, right, Yeah that rings. Now. 730 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm writing this because my website is now ranked number 731 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: two on the first page search results when you type 732 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: in my town's name. Let's go down good. How can 733 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: you not sue the police? I'm still I'm still stuck 734 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: on that. 735 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 736 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a state law that's this should this should 737 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: go into legal advice. Honestly, Now, I live in a 738 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: touristy town and we attract a lot of visitors. Over 739 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: the summer, my web traffic has more than quadrupled, and 740 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: apparently it's gotten someone highes up attention. 741 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So the reason that you can't sue the police 742 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: is the state asserts sovereign immunity. In other words, you 743 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: can't sue the king or the king's agents unless the 744 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 4: king agrees to let you. We don't have a king, 745 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 4: but our government retains saw immunity. There are many times 746 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 4: you can sue the state even when it doesn't want 747 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 4: to let you. Exceptions to sovereign immunity have been carved 748 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 4: out of many laws in our commonplace. But one place 749 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 4: it is not is in the exercise of police power. 750 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 4: It makes good sense for this to be so, or 751 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 4: everyone who was arrested would sue and the police force 752 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 4: would be unable to operate. Typically, the redress for issues 753 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 4: of police misbehavior is through the ballot box, not the 754 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 4: court system. The police are accountable to elected authorities who can, 755 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 4: who can, will and do force them to alter the behavior. 756 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 4: In some cases wave immunity, so a lawsuit against truly 757 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 4: egregious behavior can go forward. So essentially are the only 758 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 4: thing that can happen. So if you want to sue 759 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 4: the police, the only way that it can go through 760 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 4: is if someone lets you sue the police. 761 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: Jeez, police, will you kindly let me sue you? Noay? 762 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 4: Wow, that sucks. Yeah, that's I guess like America's flawed. 763 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: Wow. Who would have thunked that. 764 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: I recently received a cease and desist letter, which I 765 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: showed to my attorney. He said that sharing my experience 766 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: online isn't illegal, and that everything I've stated was a 767 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: fact or my own opinion, protecting me from a defamation lawsuit. 768 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 4: Let's go good god, Oh he should use this to 769 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 4: get fucking bag Like, hey, like the city wants you 770 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 4: to take it down, pee me five million. 771 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: Just keep keep freaking pumping it the beast. They might 772 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: arrest you again though true. Speaking of which, yesterday I 773 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: received a visit from two officers and the detective who 774 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: arrested me. 775 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 4: No way that decides to show his face again. 776 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 2: He's back. 777 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 4: He's back, and he's like, I'm sorry. 778 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: We you know what, you know what he should have 779 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: to do. He should have to go to jail for 780 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: fifty four years. The thing is that's fired, and. 781 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 4: There we go. There go, yeah, yeah, there we go. 782 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: That's what we would be awesome, He apologized, stating mistakes happened. 783 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I'll be lost his job, his kid 784 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: in his house. Bro, Like, mistakes can happen. Sure it 785 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 2: is a mistakes. Okay, yeah, I agree mistakes. 786 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: Mistakes can rectify the mistake literally, yeah, like get it, 787 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: get him out of jail. 788 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: The biggest so the eyewitness. 789 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: You know, you can't you can't help an eyewitness from 790 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: falsely accusing you of something, but you can literally do 791 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: your job, Like. 792 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 4: How are eyewitness reports still taken seriously? 793 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: Like any old person sometimes it's all you have, but 794 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: it's true, it's true. 795 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: Any person on the street could just be like I 796 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: saw John do it. 797 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah boom, Like like what if you're out of crime 798 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 4: and someone ran like literally it was Brad Pit. I 799 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 4: saw Brad Pit kill that guy. He has no alibi. 800 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 4: I saw him. 801 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: There should we should we do a whole series, uh, 802 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: like accusing celebrities. Excusing celebrities as an expose of the 803 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: horrendous laws around the judicial system. 804 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 4: We literally lock up every Academy Award nominee and then 805 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 4: we get the Academy Award in their stad Bam, Sam 806 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 4: and John take the Academy award. 807 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 2: That actually does sound fire. Yeah soon. 808 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: They then talked to me about my website and asked 809 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: if I could perhaps remove it. 810 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 4: But Chance, can you remove the website? 811 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 2: But Chance, could you stop saying the truth? So truth? 812 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 4: I know we completely fucked over your life, but you 813 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: kind of inconveniencing us, so it would be a doll 814 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 4: and just forget about it. 815 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: Sam, I know I took this chainsaw and I chopped 816 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: your legs off, but could you give me your car 817 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: for no reason? 818 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 819 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 4: Wow, I can't use it anyway. I can't even reach 820 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 4: the pedals with these freaking stumps. 821 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: I said I would delete it on the condition that 822 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: the detective leave his job and never do police work again. 823 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: Nice Honestly, my drop, I. 824 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: Keep keep going jail for fifty four days. I want 825 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: him to literally do the exact same. I. I just 826 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: want Op to get his life back. I want Op tohru. 827 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: That's the bad payout, Like. 828 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, maybe you know there could be a 829 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 4: little bit of revenge, but I want I want to 830 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 4: payout for Op. 831 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 2: That's the true best scenario. You're right, I don't know 832 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: if you heard that. 833 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 4: There was this guy that was like wrongfully imprisoned and 834 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 4: was on death row for like fifty years. My god, 835 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 4: and the got eventually released because he didn't do anything wrong, 836 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 4: and uh, they paid him like four million dollars or something. 837 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 4: But like four million dollars for fifty years of your life, 838 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 4: that's nothing, not even close. 839 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: Like you you basically probably making like a minimum wage 840 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: would happened. 841 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: A regular maybe not minimum wage, but like working like 842 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: a median income job, like over fifty years. 843 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 2: Well, well, let's see, let's see minimum wage. Let's say 844 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: you start at fifteen k. Well, what would minimum wage 845 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: be fifteen twenty k, thirty grand a year? Okay, let's 846 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: say you're making thirty grand a year. 847 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 4: Which would not be minimum wage like forty years ago, 848 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 4: but let's just let's yah, Yeah, this would pretend, all right, 849 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 4: thirty years So time is forty one point two million, 850 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 4: all right, But then you invest in the stock market 851 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 4: at one point you're getting seven percent return yep, so 852 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 4: one point seven so one point seven to the power 853 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 4: of fifty, which would be twenty nine. So time is 854 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 4: one point two thirty five million at least at least 855 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 4: at least. God, you love that math. 856 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, God, I want to get a minimum wage 857 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: job now. 858 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 4: But that's if you spend none of it, right, Yeah, 859 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 4: and invest all of all. 860 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 2: Literally, invest every penny you have for fifty years and 861 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: get seven percent return a year. That's a realistic plan 862 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: right there. 863 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 4: Yo, Bro, prison is just sounding better and better. You 864 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 4: got free equinox. You don't have to pay for food 865 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: or housing. 866 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: It's great, I'm telling you. Next YouTube video, Next YouTube video, John, 867 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: go to prison. You wear your same jacket and your 868 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: your iFIT right, and you're great to go. 869 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 2: You're ready to go. 870 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: I said I would delete it on the condition that 871 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 1: a detective leave is job and never do police work again. 872 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 2: Nice. 873 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: Suffice to say it ain't happening, Grail. I hope you 874 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: to get a bag God. After the visit I received, 875 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: I am more pissed off that the only reason the 876 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: detective apologized to me was to get me to take 877 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: down my website. I don't plan to, and the only 878 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: one supporting this is my girlfriend. Gotta collect myself before 879 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: this next sentence. My friends think I'm being spiteful and 880 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: have suggested that I just deleted am I the a 881 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: hole for keeping the website up. 882 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: No, bro, his whole life was ruis frightful. 883 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: Go in jail for fifty four days, have your child 884 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: taken away, get evicted, and lose your job, then you 885 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: can talk to me. 886 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, then you can say you can talk to me. 887 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm not going to be spiteful too. Like of course, 888 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 4: that man got his entire life ruined. He has every 889 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 4: right to ask for some justice, every single right, like 890 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 4: a tad bit of justice, because the justice system there 891 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 4: seems to be no justice for him. 892 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: But sam Oh bud Yohn, there's an update. Really, yes, 893 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: there is Juicy's story, just a couple of things I 894 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: want to address in my update. Some people are saying 895 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: I left out details. My original post was much longer, 896 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: but there's a three thousand character limit imposed here. I 897 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: had to delete a lot of things in my initial draft, 898 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: so I apologize if it looks like details have been 899 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: left out. I did try to make sure everything relevant 900 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: was kept. Lastly, my son is now back with me. 901 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: There was a lot of paperwork and even a court hearing, 902 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: but we're together now and that's what counts. 903 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 2: Sorry. 904 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: If I didn't respond to your common or private message, 905 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: still going through everything unread. Truly thankful from the bottom 906 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: of my heart for your support, words of encouragement and 907 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: advice that you have sent. I can't even begin to 908 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: put in towards how grateful I am. Again, thank you 909 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: so much for all the kind strangers who went out 910 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: of their way to help. 911 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: At least he got his kid back. At least he 912 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 2: got his kid back, and. 913 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 4: So much more was taken from him, so so much much. 914 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: You can't even imagine being in this scenario, but man, 915 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: what a crazy story. 916 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 2: It's like freaking rough. You can't you can't even imagine it. 917 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: But you know what else you can't imagine? What could 918 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 2: I possibly not imagine? 919 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 4: You can't imagine the amazing stories that people submit on 920 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 4: our slash Okop show. 921 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely so, if you have a story, sent them in, 922 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: we'll read them on the show.