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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome in episode one sixty eight. What's right with
Speaker 2: Nick Wright writing solo again today? And you know what,
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Speaker 2: We have a ton to do. Here is what has
Speaker 2: missed the cut for today's show. Not on today's show,
Speaker 2: Bronnie back home and recovering. That is the second usc
Speaker 2: basketball player to have this happen, to practice cardiac arrest
Speaker 2: and seemingly be fine. We'll see what it means for
Speaker 2: Bronnie's career. But the fact of the matter is that
Speaker 2: Bronni was it was is back home. The other player
Speaker 2: ended up playing later in the season, so God bless
Speaker 2: him in the family. Patrick Beverly saying the Clippers would
Speaker 2: have won the title if the bubble didn't happen. It's
Speaker 2: just ridiculous, and the staff trawling me for my incorrect
Speaker 2: tweet about Errol's Spence Junior and the Crawford fight. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 2: we can spend a minute on that. That way. Nobody
Speaker 2: saw that coming. You might have picked Crawford to win.
Speaker 2: And I managed to make some money on the fight anyway,
Speaker 2: because I kind of bets all over the place on it.
Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is nobody thought it
Speaker 2: was going that Errol Spence Junior was gonna look out
Speaker 2: of his league. And if you're not a big fight
Speaker 2: fan and you're not familiar with him, he is a
Speaker 2: great fighter, a great fighter was twenty nine to zero,
Speaker 2: had never been knocked down, and Bud Crawford maim made
Speaker 2: him look like a glass joe. It was startling to
Speaker 2: see that. I do hope they fight again, even though
Speaker 2: I don't think Errol would win. If he were to
Speaker 2: win in the rematch in December, it would set up
Speaker 2: an all time trilogy. But he obviously was not prepared
Speaker 2: for what Terence Crawford had ready for him. Who's now
Speaker 2: the first man ever to be the undisputed four belt
Speaker 2: champion in two different weight classes and became an all
Speaker 2: timer with that performance. All Right, we're gonna start the
Speaker 2: show with something I did not watch live, but I
Speaker 2: did get up this morning to watch having DVRD it,
Speaker 2: and that is the debacle that was the US women's
Speaker 2: national team game against Portugal. It's a zero zero draw.
Speaker 2: They do by the skin of their teeth advance to
Speaker 2: the knockout round. Some context here, and I understand it's
Speaker 2: different players, it's different here as all of it. But
Speaker 2: the US women's national team going into this match was
Speaker 2: historically eleven to zero against Portugal, having outscored them thirty
Speaker 2: nine to nothing. This was a game that the women's
Speaker 2: national team. If they didn't win, they were going home,
Speaker 2: and in stoppage time in the ninetieth minute, or I
Speaker 2: guess in the ninety plus minute, apologize for the buzzing.
Speaker 2: Portugal should have won. They had a half breakaway shot
Speaker 2: that hit the post.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: Honestly, the US is lucky to be advancing now. They
Speaker 2: are advancing with Rose Lavelle being out for their round
Speaker 2: of sixteen game, which probably will come against Sweden. If
Speaker 2: you're watching this live, we don't know who they're playing.
Speaker 2: If you're watching this delayed, you know sometime later in
Speaker 2: the week we will know who they're playing. But the
Speaker 2: odds are they're going to be playing Sweden. It would
Speaker 2: take some real mayhem in Sweden's group for Sweden not
Speaker 2: to win their group, and the US didn't win their group.
Speaker 2: The Netherlands did. The Netherlands was up five to nothing
Speaker 2: on Vietnam at halftime. I don't even know what the
Speaker 2: final score of that game was. They annihilated them and
Speaker 2: for the first time in this tournament, the US are
Speaker 2: not favored to win the Cup. I think they'll be
Speaker 2: favored in the match against Sweden. I don't know that
Speaker 2: they deserve to be Without rose level, with the team
Speaker 2: showing really no offensive punch this entire tournament, it hasn't
Speaker 2: looked good. Now you can argue this was the wake
Speaker 2: up call they needed. They're going to be a different team.
Speaker 2: They're going to play more to form in the knockout stage,
Speaker 2: but there has not been a moment this tournament even
Speaker 2: that what looked like a fine three to zero victory
Speaker 2: against Vietnam where this Seas has looked like a champion
Speaker 2: just hasn't. And I am not quite sophisticated enough, certainly
Speaker 2: on the women's soccer side of things, to be able
Speaker 2: to pillory the coach, but the folks who do seem
Speaker 2: to follow this very closely have been uninspired with the coach.
Speaker 2: I know Carly Lloyd was very angry that after the
Speaker 2: game this morning the women were celebrating and taking pictures
Speaker 2: with fans. I have less of an issue with that,
Speaker 2: but that set that aside. The issue is they have
Speaker 2: not played well and now with the latest odds that
Speaker 2: I see, England and Spain are co favorites to win
Speaker 2: the Cup with the US right behind them after the
Speaker 2: US was significant favorites heading into the tournament, so they
Speaker 2: flatly need to play better. All right. Next, so this
Speaker 2: says terrible QB tiers. I don't know that I think
Speaker 2: these QB tiers are terrible, but I want to spend
Speaker 2: some significant time on this for a number of reasons.
Speaker 2: So one of the best things the Athletic and Mike
Speaker 2: Sando do is they get fifty NFL people. If you will,
Speaker 2: it is thirty the fifty league insiders, which are ten
Speaker 2: head coaches, fifteen coordinators, ten executives, four quarterbacks I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: four quarterback coaches, and a handful of folks involved in
Speaker 2: coaching and analytics. To rank the quarterbacks in the league
Speaker 2: by tier, you have tier one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 2: And you guys know, I'm a big fan of tiering
Speaker 2: things rather than just doing flat rankings, and the very
Speaker 2: top makes sense. Patrick mahomes number one with fifty first
Speaker 2: place votes. Number two Joe Burrow with forty nine first
Speaker 2: place votes. I actually, you know, I'd be interested to
Speaker 2: see the person that said Joe Burrow was not a
Speaker 2: Tier one quarterback. That to me is wish casting. He's
Speaker 2: clearly a Tier one quarterback. It gets a little harrier
Speaker 2: after that. So Josh Allen got forty four Tier one votes.
Speaker 2: By the way, I probably would have voted Josh Allen
Speaker 2: Tier one. Now I wouldn't have him as the third
Speaker 2: best quarterback in football, but he is. Even despite the
Speaker 2: roller coaster nature of him and the almost his almost
Speaker 2: frenetic style of play, He's a Tier one quarterback because
Speaker 2: the upside's so high. Rogers comes in next. He had
Speaker 2: thirty Tier one votes and indeed Tier two votes. Rogers
Speaker 2: not a Tier one quarterback, flatly, and the cliff that
Speaker 2: so many folks myself included Max Kellerman and myself maybe
Speaker 2: most famously talked about Brady falling off that he never
Speaker 2: really fell off. I wonder if Rogers fell off it
Speaker 2: last year. Wild's brought this point up to me, and
Speaker 2: I thought it was a smart one and for Rogers,
Speaker 2: folks try to convince themselves, oh no, But he turned
Speaker 2: it on at the end of last year. He flatly
Speaker 2: did not Rogers at the end of last year when
Speaker 2: they went on that winning streak, he did not play better.
Speaker 2: His numbers actually were worse when they went four and
Speaker 2: one down the stretch. Rogers in those five games had
Speaker 2: two hundred yards per game PAS, five total passing touchdowns,
Speaker 2: three interceptions, and an eighty six passer rating. He was
Speaker 2: not better. They won those games because they played the Bears,
Speaker 2: who were on a ten game losing streak, the Rams,
Speaker 2: who were a disaster. They squeaked by against Miami. That
Speaker 2: was the game that we couldn't figure out how Tua
Speaker 2: was so awful in the second half with three picks.
Speaker 2: Then we found out he had suffered another concussion during
Speaker 2: that game, and Minnesota they annihilated. Rogers threw one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifteen for one hundred and fifty nine yards that game.
Speaker 2: Minnesota turned the ball over four times, and then in
Speaker 2: their final game of the year at home in Lambeau,
Speaker 2: Rogers was awful. They scored sixteen points and his final
Speaker 2: throw as a Packer was a terrible duck, a hail
Speaker 2: mary when he didn't have to throw a hail mary,
Speaker 2: which made it three straight years. Rogers season ended at
Speaker 2: home when he couldn't make the play the NFC title
Speaker 2: game against Brady. He could have run, he didn't. They
Speaker 2: don't get the ball back. The next year ten ten
Speaker 2: at home against the Niners, when the Niners offense doesn't
Speaker 2: score a point the entire game, he just throws hail
Speaker 2: mary after hail Mary on that three and out drive
Speaker 2: to Devonte Adams. I think it was Lazardi had wide
Speaker 2: open over the middle when they only needed a field goal.
Speaker 2: They then lose and then at home to the Lions
Speaker 2: in a playoff game. Rogers is not a top four
Speaker 2: quarterback anymore, and he's going the idea that the only
Speaker 2: precedent for a quarterback at his age getting better is Brady,
Speaker 2: and we have dreams of data that Rogers is not Brady.
Speaker 2: The next Tier one quarterback is Herbert. He's the last
Speaker 2: Tier one quarterback. He had twenty nine Tier one votes
Speaker 2: and twenty one Tier two votes. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: I think having Herbert, though ahead of Jalen Hurts and
Speaker 2: the Prince is incorrect. I like Herbert. The Chargers scare
Speaker 2: the hell out of me. I do think that there
Speaker 2: is a level of romanticism of his arm talent and
Speaker 2: his potential when we have not yet seen him take
Speaker 2: the major leap we expected him to take between year
Speaker 2: one and year two, or certainly year two and year three,
Speaker 2: when year three is probably his worst year. I know
Speaker 2: he was banged up all year. I know they had injuries.
Speaker 2: I think that's a touch overrated Jalen Hurts. We just
Speaker 2: showed you guys some of the rankings. Jalen Hurts comeings
Speaker 2: in next. He had ten Tier one votes, thirty eight
Speaker 2: Tier two votes, and two who Tier three votes. That's
Speaker 2: disrespectful to what the guy's accomplished. He am I dead
Speaker 2: certain Jalen Hurts is it can't miss ten year awesome quarterback? No?
Speaker 2: But does he have the track is he building the
Speaker 2: track record of it? Is his arrow continually pointing up unquestionably?
Speaker 2: I think he should have been a Tier one guy.
Speaker 2: Lamar comes in next. Lamar had eight Tier one votes,
Speaker 2: thirty seven Tier two votes, and five Tier three votes.
Speaker 2: I think that's correct. I think Lamar is right beneath
Speaker 2: the Tier one quarterbacks, and I will believe that until
Speaker 2: he becomes more consistent in the layups. Then there's the
Speaker 2: Prince Trevor. He had three Tier one votes, thirty three
Speaker 2: Tier two votes, and fourteen Tier three votes. If you
Speaker 2: think Peyton Manning two point zero is a Tier three quarterback,
Speaker 2: you're just not paying attention. The guy is a future,
Speaker 2: if not current superstar. He might win League MVP this year.
Speaker 2: He and Ridley are going to be dynamic. He had
Speaker 2: the second most playoff touchdowns of anyone in the league
Speaker 2: last year. He was spectacular in the second half of
Speaker 2: the season. You almost have to throw out year one
Speaker 2: under urban Meyer. I think Trevor's underrated, but don't listen
Speaker 2: to me. I've only been right about him and the
Speaker 2: Jags every step of the way. Dak is number nine,
Speaker 2: which is about right. He had one Tier one vote,
Speaker 2: thirty six Tier two votes, and thirteen Tier three votes.
Speaker 2: And then there's Matt Stafford at number ten, and I'm
Speaker 2: not going to go through all the voting on everyone else.
Speaker 2: I actually wanted to talk about this for this is
Speaker 2: actually kind of a commentary on running back pay. So
Speaker 2: just follow me down this path. Because Stafford is ten,
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson is eleven, Kurk Cousins twelve, and then Tier
Speaker 2: three Kyler Carr, goff Russ Tua, who, while I've been
Speaker 2: down on him, that's too low for Tua, Jimmy g eighteen,
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones nineteen, Geno twenty, Justin Fields, who has the
Speaker 2: variance for him has to be the most Tannehill twenty two,
Speaker 2: Mac Jones twenty three. Okay, so here's why I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about this you want to know why Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: who you know, is barely a top twenty quarterback by
Speaker 2: this ranking, and I think that's a fair ranking. I
Speaker 2: think Daniel Jones when you incorporate his athleticism, his arm talent,
Speaker 2: and then the flip side, the limited nature of his accuracy,
Speaker 2: the fact that if you ask him to make time
Speaker 2: throws is gonna turn the ball over. He's just barely
Speaker 2: in the top twenty. And I think Gino's a little
Speaker 2: underrated there, but that's fine. This is why quarterbacks are
Speaker 2: gonna just take up a bigger and bigger percentage of
Speaker 2: the salary gap for the near future, until we are
Speaker 2: able to have a level of competence from the below
Speaker 2: average quarterbacks that currently does not exist. The fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is that there are not twenty human beings
Speaker 2: alive right now who can play the quarterback position better
Speaker 2: than Daniel Jones, and Daniel Jones is barely competent at
Speaker 2: it that Ryan Tannehill is firmly in the top twenty
Speaker 2: five this listen. I didn't take economics in high school.
Speaker 2: I'm not or in college either. I'm not a stock
Speaker 2: sky where you talk about market forces. But it doesn't
Speaker 2: You don't have to be John Nash to understand that.
Speaker 2: Right now, the best thing going for good but not
Speaker 2: great quarterbacks is the fact that the cliff you fall
Speaker 2: off from the average to the incompetent is steep and sudden,
Speaker 2: and your team cannot function with the incompetent ones. Now,
Speaker 2: everyone beneath Jones isn't destined to be incompetent. You have fields,
Speaker 2: you have picket, you have purty, you have love, You
Speaker 2: have a lot of young guys who maybe one day
Speaker 2: will be good. But there may exist a world in
Speaker 2: fifteen years where, because quarterback training becomes so specialized, and
Speaker 2: because seven on seven becomes so ubiquitous, and because high
Speaker 2: school and college teams start throwing the ball more and
Speaker 2: more and more, that there is a surplus of mediocre quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: The moment that happens, the NFL salary structure will turn
Speaker 2: on its head. And what I mean by that is,
Speaker 2: if we ever get to a place where there are
Speaker 2: sixty Ryan Tannehill Mac Jones level quarterbacks, then the Daniel
Speaker 2: Joneses of the world stop getting paid, Jimmy G's of
Speaker 2: the world stop Derek Carr's stop getting paid. It's what's
Speaker 2: happened with running backs because there's two hundred potential Isaiah
Speaker 2: Pacheco's you can't justify paying the good but not great ones.
Speaker 2: And even the great ones are having a hard time
Speaker 2: really getting paid. And so I hope this is I'm
Speaker 2: making this clear to the audience right now. When you
Speaker 2: see Justin Herbert makes fifty three million dollars a year
Speaker 2: and you're about to see Burrow make fifty five million,
Speaker 2: you have to recognize, though, that fifty three million is
Speaker 2: really only about thirteen to fifteen million, because forty million
Speaker 2: is the anchored cost of competence. And so you're if
Speaker 2: you if you don't have a quarterback on a rookie
Speaker 2: deal and you want a competent quarterback, maybe you can
Speaker 2: say the anchored cost is what car makes, so not
Speaker 2: what Daniel Jones makes. So car, Derek Carr, what does
Speaker 2: he make? Thirty five? He got four? No, he got
Speaker 2: I mean he got four for one fifty. Now that's
Speaker 2: it's really three for one hundred, because that last year
Speaker 2: is a fifty million dollar year. So yeah, call the
Speaker 2: anchored cost thirty five right now, the price to get
Speaker 2: in the room of a non rookie contract competent quarterback
Speaker 2: is thirty five million. So justin Herbert doesn't really cast
Speaker 2: lost you fifty three, he costs you eighteen and when
Speaker 2: And I know that sounds counterintuitive, but the only comp
Speaker 2: I can give you is, and I'm not the first
Speaker 2: person to use this example, but if you go to
Speaker 2: a fancy steakhouse and you've decided I'm getting a steak.
Speaker 2: If the cheapest steak is sixty dollars and the fancy
Speaker 2: steak is eighty dollars, you're yes, you are spending eighty dollars.
Speaker 2: But if you were if you want the fancy one.
Speaker 2: But if you are dead set on getting the steak,
Speaker 2: no matter what a steak, you're spending twenty extra dollars
Speaker 2: because your floor was sixty. And there's a logical It's
Speaker 2: not a lot. I think maybe it might be a
Speaker 2: logical fallacy in some regards, but it's a it's where
Speaker 2: you're at anchored at. And if you are an NFL
Speaker 2: team and you are dead set, we are not going
Speaker 2: to we didn't draft a quarterback and we are not
Speaker 2: going to go with one of these retreads. A guy
Speaker 2: who is a Baker Mayfield who is flamed out in
Speaker 2: other places. We want an established player. Your minimum cost
Speaker 2: is thirty five million. So when people wonder how can
Speaker 2: Herbert make fifty three, it's because if the Chargers wanted
Speaker 2: to move were like, we don't want to pay him
Speaker 2: that they're not opening unless they draft a quarterback. Opening
Speaker 2: up fifty three million, They're probably only opening up eighteen
Speaker 2: because then they just go sign Garoppolo or car and
Speaker 2: I know they were never moving on for from Herbert.
Speaker 2: The converse to that is what's happening with running backs.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what the economic terminology for reverse
Speaker 2: anchoring would be. But when Jonathan Taylor wants call it
Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars a year, if the cults are saying
Speaker 2: to themselves, well we can We can't get Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 2: but we can get seventy five percent of his production
Speaker 2: for literally five percent of his cost, for seven hundred
Speaker 2: grand a year via a sixth round draft pick. That
Speaker 2: then is gonna work against all of these guys. So
Speaker 2: in a weird way, and I tried to talk about
Speaker 2: this last week, I just find this, and again I
Speaker 2: hope the audience is interested in this. I find this
Speaker 2: type of stuff in a hard caps fascinating. The best
Speaker 2: thing that could happen to running backs is there to
Speaker 2: be fewer good ones, and the worst thing that could
Speaker 2: happen to quarterbacks is for there to be more competency.
Speaker 2: And I do think both of those things are coming,
Speaker 2: because again, if we're in a logical market, you are
Speaker 2: going to have more and more of our elite young
Speaker 2: athletes specializing at quarterback, and you're gonna have fewer and
Speaker 2: fewer of our elite young athletes specializing at running back.
Speaker 2: And the supply is gonna shift. But until it does,
Speaker 2: the quarterback piece of the pie is just gonna get
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger and bigger, and every other position is
Speaker 2: gonna be squeezed a bit. All right. Again, I knew
Speaker 2: I would spend a lot of time on that. I'm
Speaker 2: fascinated by it. This is one of those times where
Speaker 2: maybe I needed a co host today because one of
Speaker 2: my my daughter, or my son or my wife would
Speaker 2: have said that was wildly boring. But I find it fascinating,
Speaker 2: all right. Next, Aaron Rodgers came after Sean Payton, and
Speaker 2: I gave him credit for it. The producer's right who
Speaker 2: asked Rodgers to be the fun beliefs. Is he a
Speaker 2: fearless leader standing up for his guy, or just being petty? Listen,
Speaker 2: I don't think the Jets are gonna have a good year.
Speaker 2: I don't think Rogers is a great player anymore. I
Speaker 2: do think he has handled this offseason perfectly, and I
Speaker 2: think what he did for Nathaniel Hackett there was also
Speaker 2: just very kind. I think Nathaniel Hackett, who had the
Speaker 2: entire media flam bay him for an entire is, you know,
Speaker 2: is one shot at being a head coach, then having
Speaker 2: another head coach, a Hall of Fame maybe caliber head
Speaker 2: coach come after him in a way you never see
Speaker 2: a coach go after another coach. I think it was
Speaker 2: great for him that Rogers had his back. I also
Speaker 2: think that the Jets' best case scenario is fighting for
Speaker 2: that final wildcard spot. That is also I don't think
Speaker 2: the Broncos can do it, but that is their best
Speaker 2: case scenario. And the fact that Rogers is turning the
Speaker 2: screws a bit on the Broncos and adding pressure to
Speaker 2: them and keeping this a story I think smart. So
Speaker 2: I listen, I don't Rogers talked to Peter King. Evidently
Speaker 2: I haven't read the whole article, but he said that,
Speaker 2: you know, going into the darkness for a treat. He
Speaker 2: really was good planning on retiring. I don't buy that.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of Rogers stuff Rogers tries to sell
Speaker 2: that I don't buy. But I think this was a
Speaker 2: good move. I think Sean Payton made a massive error.
Speaker 2: I also think Sean Payton clearly is one of the
Speaker 2: most well liked coaches amongst media of anybody, because he
Speaker 2: got mostly a pass for this when I thought it
Speaker 2: was a massive unforced error that truly ratcheted up the
Speaker 2: pressure and expectations on a Broncos team that, aside from
Speaker 2: the obvious upgrade it head coach, the biggest thing they
Speaker 2: had going for them this year was they didn't have
Speaker 2: the pressure and expectations they had last year. So I
Speaker 2: think Peyton really screwed up here. I think Rogers did
Speaker 2: a good thing all right. Lastly, to Joe Burrow. Last week,
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow said he wasn't in a rush to sign
Speaker 2: an extension. Then he suffered a calf injury at practice,
Speaker 2: going to keep him out several weeks. He's had a
Speaker 2: bunch of injuries already. Should the Bengals hesitate the signer
Speaker 2: of the biggest the NFL history. Absolutely not his second
Speaker 2: best quarterback in football. We just talked to quarterback salaries.
Speaker 2: He's going to get the biggest quarterback contract ever. He
Speaker 2: was going to get it with or without the injury.
Speaker 2: I have one major concern for Burrow and then one
Speaker 2: criticism of the Bengals. The major concern for Burrow is
Speaker 2: not that the calf injury is gonna turn into an
Speaker 2: achilles injury or the calf injury is going to turn
Speaker 2: into some months long saga. My concern for Burrow is
Speaker 2: if I would not let him take the field in
Speaker 2: the regular season until he is at one hundred percent
Speaker 2: from a mobility perspective. Their offensive line is still a
Speaker 2: work in progress, and if he can't protect himself fully
Speaker 2: when to open their season, they have Miles Garrett followed
Speaker 2: by that Baltimore front, followed by Aaron Donald and the Rams,
Speaker 2: and the Rams aren't gonna meaning good, but Aaron Donald's awesome,
Speaker 2: followed by Jeffrey Simmons and the Titans. You can't have
Speaker 2: Burrow compromised to where he can't protect himself. That's my
Speaker 2: concern for the Bengals. My criticism of the Bengals is
Speaker 2: this Joe Burrow had a sleeve on that calf. That
Speaker 2: means there was some level of tenderness or aggravation before
Speaker 2: he suffered the injury. Why was he out there in
Speaker 2: the first week of training camp with any type of
Speaker 2: nick or cut or soft tissue aggravation that could flare
Speaker 2: up and keep him out several weeks? Why would you
Speaker 2: not tell him he is sitting Last year, he sat
Speaker 2: like he's mispart of camp throughout his career. Why would
Speaker 2: you have him out there that part? I flatly do
Speaker 2: not understand. We play a little nick chat GPT next,
Speaker 2: What's right?
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Speaker 2: before we get to the game we're gonna play Jonathan
Speaker 2: Taylor news. Jonathan Taylor demanded a trade after Jim Mersay.
Speaker 2: One of Jimmers says many unhinged tweets the team is
Speaker 2: claiming he got hurt. He says he's fine. The producers
Speaker 2: want to ask if the chief should trade for Taylor.
Speaker 2: And a reminder, by the way, you guys can ask
Speaker 2: me whatever you want. We'll do that in the next day.
Speaker 2: All right before, No, the Chiefs shouldn't trade for Taylor.
Speaker 2: I will give you some teams that should consider it.
Speaker 2: But first, this non football injury list threat by the
Speaker 2: Colts is a dangerous game for any team to play.
Speaker 2: So again, Jonathan Taylor is saying his back is not injured.
Speaker 2: The Colts reportedly are threatening to put him on the
Speaker 2: non football injury list, which would mean he does not
Speaker 2: get paid while he's on it, with the belief being
Speaker 2: he suffered a back injury while working out slash training
Speaker 2: in the off season, but not at the Colts facility. Okay,
Speaker 2: I understand the non football injury list being used for
Speaker 2: and I feel terribly for the guy. But Naim Hines.
Speaker 2: Naim Hines, the Bills running back kick returner, was on
Speaker 2: a jet ski, got crashed into and suffered a significant injury.
Speaker 2: That is the definition of a non football injury. Now
Speaker 2: he makes so little money, maybe the Bills will end
Speaker 2: up paying him. But that's what the thing exists for.
Speaker 2: If a guy's out there rollerblading. I don't know if
Speaker 2: people are rollerblading these days, or playing basketball or you know,
Speaker 2: and gets injured, Teams don't have to pay you. But
Speaker 2: the idea that you could be risking your entire salary
Speaker 2: by training for professional football in the offseason if you
Speaker 2: get injured. The reason I'm saying this is a dangerous
Speaker 2: game is teams obviously expect demand and want players to
Speaker 2: train in their own time. And if you were to
Speaker 2: withhold Jonathan Taylor's salary, if I'm the Players Association, i
Speaker 2: am sending out a league wide memorandum guys don't train
Speaker 2: in the offseason. Do OTAs, do mini camp, do training camp.
Speaker 2: But if you are risking you're the entirety of your
Speaker 2: salary and your contract if you get hurt training for
Speaker 2: your team, if you're not with your team, that to
Speaker 2: me opens a very risky door. So there's that part
Speaker 2: of it. Next part of it. I know there is
Speaker 2: a belief amongst a lot of people that Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 2: no one's gonna want to trade for him because you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to give up a draft pick and sign
Speaker 2: him to a new contract. I don't believe that's accurate.
Speaker 2: I think if you trade for Jonathan Taylor, you don't
Speaker 2: have to sign him to a new contract. It might
Speaker 2: not be listen, might not be what Jonathan Taylor wants
Speaker 2: to hear. But Jonathan Taylor might have enough leverage within
Speaker 2: Indy to force them to give him a new contract.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like he does. He might have enough
Speaker 2: leverage to force them to trade him. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if he does. I do not think Jonathan Taylor would
Speaker 2: have enough leverage to force a trade and then when
Speaker 2: he gets to the next team demand a new contract.
Speaker 2: What I think that you could trade for him and say, listen,
Speaker 2: we got you out of that situation, and we very
Speaker 2: well may give you a contract after this year, but
Speaker 2: we're not signing you to a new contract. Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 2: is not gonna what's he gonna do? Not report, sit out,
Speaker 2: the year. He's not gonna do it, and so I
Speaker 2: don't think just by trading for him, you that means
Speaker 2: you have to give him a new deal. That's first
Speaker 2: of all. Second of all, who should trade for him? No,
Speaker 2: the chief shouldn't, I think, But Checko's good. I also
Speaker 2: like Generic Prince, this undrafted kid they have, and they
Speaker 2: don't need to spend resources at the running back position.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: They could have drafted Jonathan Taylor and said they drafted
Speaker 2: a running back and Clyde Edwards laire a few years ago.
Speaker 2: That was a mistake, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2: The Bengals obviously, because I think Joe Mixon is a
Speaker 2: deteriorating asset. Pardon me, Son, If you really wanted to
Speaker 2: go all in, the Bengals and the Chargers would be
Speaker 2: two AFC teams that I think would consider saying screw it,
Speaker 2: let's do it, and he would be an instant impact
Speaker 2: difference maker for them if the Colts didn't want to
Speaker 2: trade him. Within the AFC, the team, and I understand
Speaker 2: this team has spent I think consecutive or at least
Speaker 2: two of the last three drafts they've spent second round
Speaker 2: picks on running Uh yeah, the last two. But they're
Speaker 2: both injured right now. And that's Seattle. I know Kenneth
Speaker 2: Walker's really good, but he's hurt. Zach Charbona their draft
Speaker 2: pick from this year in the second round. He's hurt.
Speaker 2: It would be a crazy use of resources. But they
Speaker 2: have a very good I think it will be very
Speaker 2: good young defense. They have Gino on a cheap deal.
Speaker 2: They you know, Pete Carroll loves to run the ball.
Speaker 2: I I wonder if, and I also wonder almost if
Speaker 2: they could trade what is Zach Charboney's injury. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: really you know, kind of going full fantasy GM here,
Speaker 2: but let me so Zach Charbonay's injury, uh, just shoulder discomfort.
Speaker 2: So I wonder if instead of trading draft picks, you
Speaker 2: could trade this running back you took in the second
Speaker 2: round two Indy cost controlled for the next four years
Speaker 2: for them for Jonathan Taylor Kenneth Walker's week to week
Speaker 2: with his groin injury. I would keep an eye on that.
Speaker 2: I could see this Seahawks and John Schneider doing that
Speaker 2: all right time for our game. Now, Nick GPT. Where
Speaker 2: I essentially make sense of the senseless is what they say. Sorry,
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott was approached twice about starring in
Speaker 2: season two of Quarterback, but the clent saying, I get
Speaker 2: enough media, this team gets enough coverage. Nick GPT, Why
Speaker 2: did Dak really say no? I think that's right. I
Speaker 2: actually buy him on that. I also think that it
Speaker 2: is a legitimate commitment to let these guys mic you
Speaker 2: up and follow you around all year. I also think
Speaker 2: that Mahomes, that's that's a tough act to follow. Man.
Speaker 2: He's such a badass in that series and they win
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Now, it doesn't surprise me that Burrow
Speaker 2: might do it because Burrow's got the you know a.
Speaker 2: He probably thinks they don't get enough coverage. B Burrow
Speaker 2: has that level of confidence and he'll be awesome with it.
Speaker 2: But I think that's a smart call by Deck by Deck.
Speaker 2: All right, Now to the Bills. The Bills are so
Speaker 2: inspired by your banners they decided to hang one of
Speaker 2: their own. Talk about life imitating art. Sean McDermott hung
Speaker 2: a banner of the Lombardi saying it's a daily reminder
Speaker 2: of what we're here to do do. Nick GBD, does
Speaker 2: this compute? I mean, this is farcical. A team that
Speaker 2: has never won the Lombardi Trophy has a giant banner.
Speaker 2: You couldn't script this better for me of a Lombardi
Speaker 2: Trophy in their practice facility to try to inspire hear them.
Speaker 2: I suppose this is once again the Bills buying into
Speaker 2: the hype prematurely and setting themselves up for a rough season.
Speaker 2: I am a seller on the Bills. This year. They
Speaker 2: did an upgrade wide receiver two. They're gonna ask Josh
Speaker 2: to run less, which is smart but will hurt their offense.
Speaker 2: They lost Leslie Frasier. Diggs is pissed about something we
Speaker 2: still don't totally understand. The division is tougher, and they're
Speaker 2: talking Lombardi Trophies when they need to be talking about
Speaker 2: finding a way to get out of Round two. Next
Speaker 2: to Dame, the NBA sent out a memo basically saying, hey,
Speaker 2: agents and players, don't do what Dame is doing. What's
Speaker 2: the NBA actually saying. I think what the NBA is
Speaker 2: actually saying, and I actually back the NBA up on
Speaker 2: this is we do not like, nor do we endorse
Speaker 2: the trend. Pardon me, I had to take a sip
Speaker 2: of my delicious Starbucks coffee of NBA guys double dipping,
Speaker 2: and by double dipping, I mean getting the security of
Speaker 2: the contract extension with their own team and then also
Speaker 2: specifically demanding trades now And I haven't heard other people
Speaker 2: make this point because there is the obvious criticism of
Speaker 2: guys taking a contract extension then demanding a trade. It
Speaker 2: is actually better for their own their previous teams that
Speaker 2: they do that rather than just leave in free agency.
Speaker 2: It would have been better for the Thunder if Durant
Speaker 2: had signed an extension and then demanded to each traded
Speaker 2: to Golden State or traded at all. It would have
Speaker 2: been better for the Cavs if Lebron had signed an
Speaker 2: extension and then demanded to be traded, then just leaving
Speaker 2: for nothing. The problem is if, and what I think
Speaker 2: the NBA is really trying to avoid, is guys taking
Speaker 2: the extension and then demanding to be traded to a
Speaker 2: specific place. But again, it's better than guys just leaving
Speaker 2: out right in free agency for the returning teams, but
Speaker 2: the specific team demands, which handcuffs you. That obviously is
Speaker 2: not better for those teams because they can't build out
Speaker 2: the team the way they want to, all right to
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey. After punching a couple of teammates, Kelsey tweeted,
Speaker 2: he's got to be a better teammate and leader. Nick GBT,
Speaker 2: what is Kelsey actually saying? I believe he's actually saying that.
Speaker 2: I disagree with him now. I don't want to punching teammates,
Speaker 2: most notably because he could hurt his hand. And is this, Nick,
Speaker 2: Are you being a hypocrite because of how you felt
Speaker 2: about Draymond? No, of course not. Guys. Hittings another teammate
Speaker 2: in the helmet in football training camp is not at
Speaker 2: all the same as cold cocking your teammate and damn
Speaker 2: near breaking his jaw at basketball training camp. Not the
Speaker 2: same at all. The reason I don't mind it is
Speaker 2: if anyone was worried that Kelsey hosting SNL, you know,
Speaker 2: potentially becoming the goat tight end, winning a second Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: all of this stuff, didn't have his eye on the ball,
Speaker 2: You now don't have to worry about that. The guy
Speaker 2: is so fired up and so intense he's flipping out
Speaker 2: in consecutive days at training camp. I'm not bothered by it.
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's trainer Tim Grover attempted to end the goat
Speaker 2: debate by saying, ever heard a story of anyone getting
Speaker 2: robbed for a pair of brawn? Nick, gbt, is the
Speaker 2: goat debate over? No, of course not. But I will say,
Speaker 2: as arrogantly as it sounds, I effing told you so.
Speaker 2: There has not been a take of mine in the
Speaker 2: last six months that I was more roundly criticized for
Speaker 2: than when I said on this show and on the
Speaker 2: TV show that by the rules of engagement that have
Speaker 2: been set up by the Jordan acolytes, Jordan's ownership tenure
Speaker 2: with the Hornets, which was an unmitigated disaster, and well,
Speaker 2: remind me, I'll remind myself to get back to that
Speaker 2: in a moment, by those that that should be at
Speaker 2: least a small part of the goat debate in the
Speaker 2: negat column for Jordan, purely because folks have used how
Speaker 2: dope his shoes are and how well they sell and
Speaker 2: the movie air and all of that as a pro
Speaker 2: a slash in the pro column for him on the
Speaker 2: goat debate, and folks acted like I had six heads. Oh, Nick,
Speaker 2: No one does that. No one talks about the sneakers
Speaker 2: when it comes to the goat stuff, even though everyone
Speaker 2: knows people do and have And now we have Tim
Speaker 2: Grover at a giant speech, not as a throwaway line,
Speaker 2: he said, this is the mic drop moment, like boom,
Speaker 2: big joker, look at the sneakers. I told you so.
Speaker 2: Also a lot of people. I want to be very
Speaker 2: careful about this how I phrase this, but there seemed
Speaker 2: to be more than a few credible reports that I
Speaker 2: wish someone would, like the Wall Street Journal, would put
Speaker 2: a reporter on to really nail down. But there seemed
Speaker 2: to be a lot of people in the financial services
Speaker 2: sector that believe Jordans sold the Hornets because he owed
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars because he was one of
Speaker 2: the major shorters of the game stop stock. And again
Speaker 2: I have not run down that story, but I have
Speaker 2: now heard it from three different places, most recently from
Speaker 2: last night, from someone who I really feel would know
Speaker 2: that this is exactly what happened. And if that's true,
Speaker 2: that Jordan's I mean obsessive gambling got to the point
Speaker 2: to where he had to sell his basketball team. Honestly,
Speaker 2: that kind of makes me like him more. It's also
Speaker 2: hilarious because no one has quite explained why he sold
Speaker 2: the team. Oh, Nick, he made billions. Well it wasn't
Speaker 2: a yes, but he was never not going to make billions.
Speaker 2: And of course those teams are only going up up
Speaker 2: in valuations and they're about to have a brand new
Speaker 2: television deal where they'd be worthy. And more so, the
Speaker 2: timing of it was curious, and the fact that he
Speaker 2: announced he was selling it before they knew whether you know,
Speaker 2: they could have gotten wimby he it was announced he
Speaker 2: was selling it before the draft lottery to intriguing story
Speaker 2: that I hope uh the Wall Street Journal or Fortune
Speaker 2: or somebody can run down uh elon. Musk, by the way,
Speaker 2: changed the X which is the new Twitter slow twitters.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, changed the ex slogan used to be Twitter
Speaker 2: to blaze your glory, Nick Gpt, What the bleep does
Speaker 2: this mean? I listen. I gotta tell you I I
Speaker 2: think Musk has done an objectively cartoonish bad job. I
Speaker 2: also use Twitter as much as ever, not more, but
Speaker 2: my usage has not gone down. Now, my enjoyment of it,
Speaker 2: my ability to you know, check mentions is dead. There
Speaker 2: are certain things that have just gotten objectively worse. But
Speaker 2: as far as like the none of those threads. I
Speaker 2: never signed up for Blue Sky all these things. Twitter
Speaker 2: has such a massive head start that, no matter how
Speaker 2: personally reprehensible I find Musk to be, and I mean
Speaker 2: he's out here tweeting about white genocide in South Africa, Like,
Speaker 2: give me a break, buddy, I it is still an
Speaker 2: invaluable resource for me. And it has not broken. I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people were like, oh, it's gonna break.
Speaker 2: They fired all the engineers, and it is clunkier, and
Speaker 2: there have been days it has been down. But I
Speaker 2: don't care what they call it as long as it's
Speaker 2: still the place that has Joe Burrow. You know, I
Speaker 2: saw that Joe Burrow suffered a calf injury minutes after
Speaker 2: it happened, before it was on any television network. It
Speaker 2: was while it was live on TV, and we had
Speaker 2: it on the show immediately, and it was because of Twitter.
Speaker 2: Still super useful, all right. Lastly, the producer saw a
Speaker 2: very vague tweet from Demonse the other day that read,
Speaker 2: there's apparently this podcast on YouTube that just spreads misinformation
Speaker 2: about me, Nick Gpt. Who could Demanse be talking about.
Speaker 2: I think he's almost assuredly talking about us, maybe his
Speaker 2: sister and I when we were doing the ghost conversation.
Speaker 2: But Demonse, if you see this, it would I I
Speaker 2: really pray he's talking about a different podcast. I should
Speaker 2: text him. I'm gonna text him now and maybe he'll respond.
Speaker 2: Hold On, Demanse, were we the podcast you were tweeting about?
Speaker 2: Because it would thrill me if it's a different podcast.
Speaker 2: If Demand has gotten big enough that there is a
Speaker 2: podcast other than this one that's like, hey, you know
Speaker 2: the Demandse guy from What's Right, and then they're spreading
Speaker 2: lies about him. I know it would be a pain
Speaker 2: in the ass and stressful for him, but that would
Speaker 2: be a badge of honor. There's a there in fact,
Speaker 2: hold on, let me see if I can find it.
Speaker 2: Someone sent me Nick hold on a YouTube video. Let
Speaker 2: me see if I can oh here it is. There's
Speaker 2: a YouTube video right now that has seventy five thousand
Speaker 2: views from a guy that seems to take himself very seriously,
Speaker 2: that claims it's twenty one minutes long to be an
Speaker 2: expose that I'm a clutch sports client like he's uncovered it,
Speaker 2: which again is something I have talked about publicly for
Speaker 2: two years since it's been true. That's first of all.
Speaker 2: Second of all, is such a backwards understanding of that.
Speaker 2: People are like, oh, how can you take Nick's lebron
Speaker 2: take seriously when Clutch is paying them? Guys, your agents
Speaker 2: don't pay you, You pay them, and I am not. I.
Speaker 2: I am repped by UTA, and my agent is Ryan Hayden,
Speaker 2: who's excellent. UTA and Clutt Clutch are partners. Rich is
Speaker 2: on the board of UTA, and Rich is the one,
Speaker 2: Rich Paul of Clutch Sports who hooked me up with
Speaker 2: Ryan Hayden, And that's who I work with. That's kind
Speaker 2: that's how the business works or whatever. Rich isn't negotiating
Speaker 2: my contracts. Have I ever bounced business stuff off of Rich?
Speaker 2: Of course he's brilliant on that stuff. Yeah. Uh, but
Speaker 2: they don't pay me. I pay them. If anything, Rich
Speaker 2: and them should be out there talking about how I'm
Speaker 2: the goat, not the other way around. Quick break right back,
Speaker 2: answer your questions? What's right? All right? Welcome back in
Speaker 2: what's right with Nick? Right? Let's answer some fan questions.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Producer Dan asks who's the more incompetent owner, MJ or Elon.
Speaker 2: It's MJ. It's not even close. Elon's a pain in
Speaker 2: the ass, but he has he can't say he's the
Speaker 2: worst in modern history in his business. And Jordan was
Speaker 2: the as far as on court performance, the worst owner
Speaker 2: of the twenty first century. It's not even close. Jerk
Speaker 2: Nlow asks, do you think any current quarterback will finish
Speaker 2: their career with more than two Super Bowls? Aside from Mahomes, No,
Speaker 2: three plus two quarterbacks at the same time winning three plus. No,
Speaker 2: I don't. It's never happened. I mean, Bradshaw won four
Speaker 2: in the seventies, Montana won four in the eighties, Aikmn
Speaker 2: won three in the nineties. Brady won six over a
Speaker 2: twenty year stretch. No one over you know in those
Speaker 2: periods got more than two. No, I absolutely don't. Jose
Speaker 2: Castro says, do you think Alcarez should be favored in
Speaker 2: the US Open over Djokovic? I told you you guys,
Speaker 2: I'm becking him in every major from for now until
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. Autcarez is gonna be my pick to
Speaker 2: win every major, and I'll win more money than I'll lose.
Speaker 2: Tyler Vaughan says, let's say you could control the chief's destiny,
Speaker 2: what would you prefer this season they go undefeated and
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, or they have the NFL's first
Speaker 2: three peat but never consecutive Super Bowls afterwards. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna listen the I don't totally understand the second part
Speaker 2: of that question. They get a three peat but never consecutive.
Speaker 2: Let's just what would I like? More undefeated this year
Speaker 2: and win the Super Bowl and don't win next year,
Speaker 2: or they three pat but don't go undefeated in either season.
Speaker 2: I would prefer the three peat for two reasons. One is,
Speaker 2: I think it's harder to duplicate. We have seen seen
Speaker 2: teams come closer to undefeated than we've seen to three peating.
Speaker 2: And two is I I think it would be good.
Speaker 2: I think it would be a cooler carrot to dangle
Speaker 2: out there for every individual season thereafter, let's try to
Speaker 2: go undefeated. As opposed if they were to go undefeated,
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl and then lose next year, you
Speaker 2: can't really dangle the three peak carrot because that's a
Speaker 2: multi season, you know, objective. If they go if they
Speaker 2: were to three peat, you would still every year be
Speaker 2: able to say, what have we not done? We're not
Speaker 2: we haven't gone undefeated. Nick, Are you getting ahead of
Speaker 2: yourself done on this stuff? Absolutely not. It's the greatest
Speaker 2: player ever and a guy who's gonna be one of
Speaker 2: the three greatest coaches ever. No, I'm not getting out
Speaker 2: of myself. This guy says, Oh, no, Nick is a
Speaker 2: Caramel pronouncer. I don't know Carmel Caramel. I don't know
Speaker 2: there's an a. There's two ways. I mean, seems like
Speaker 2: it's caramel. Shelton Johnson says, why did you give Trevor
Speaker 2: a pass when he had a bad coaching staff but
Speaker 2: not justin fields? When he had a coach you didn't
Speaker 2: believe in him? And Matt Nagy. I'm not anti justin.
Speaker 3: Fields, the the the the I'm flatle not anti justin fields.
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing that justin fields isn't gonna be really good.
Speaker 2: But for the record, Trevor had one of the worst
Speaker 2: coaching staffs in NFL history, Matt Nagy is a pretty
Speaker 2: good quarterbacks coach, and Trevor's just flatly better than justin fields.
Speaker 2: But I justin fields might end up being awesome. We
Speaker 2: haven't seen it yet. We have seen it already from
Speaker 2: Trevor just said. We found the podcast shading Demonse. Wait,
Speaker 2: don't put it, don't do it publicly. Wait, so it's
Speaker 2: actually not us that he's talking about. Oh, it's the
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan podcast. Okay, that's not true. You guys got
Speaker 2: me excited. You guys got me very excited that you
Speaker 2: guys had actually found it. I would have been so
Speaker 2: happy if we had actually found the podcast. Shading Demonse.
Speaker 2: Demanse has not has he texted me back yet? Uh,
Speaker 2: Demanse is not text me back yet. We will report
Speaker 2: on Thursday, hopefully with Danielle along our side. We will
Speaker 2: report back on that. And we've got a ton. We
Speaker 2: got a ton to get to throughout the rest of
Speaker 2: the week. Oh, today, I'm on with Colin. I'm also
Speaker 2: on Collin's podcast tonight and three o'clock today on FS
Speaker 2: one twenty twenty three, First Things, First Quarterback Pyramid. We
Speaker 2: will get into that extensively. All that's later today on
Speaker 2: Fox Sport twenty You can see me there. Have a
Speaker 2: great day, everybody. What's right