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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackout Tolls Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Rod, joined us always by my co

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Speaker 2: I truly look forward to being able to connect with

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Speaker 2: Eventually most of us be saying LATINX and taking all

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Speaker 1: But you're like, I hope I have never made them

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Speaker 1: feel that way? Did I fuck up? Did I do?

439
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Speaker 2: And the truth is like, yes, probably at some point,

440
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Speaker 2: because you're not perfect, and because you don't know everything,

441
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Speaker 2: because they don't know every right and people have their

442
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 2: own issues to work on and all this stuff.

443
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Speaker 1: So it's a big messy thing.

444
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Speaker 2: But it's, as you can evidence from this discussion, it

445
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Speaker 2: lends itself to people that overthink. And I overthink a lot,

446
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Speaker 2: so I think about that kind of shit a lot.

447
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Speaker 1: But you know it's to me.

448
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Speaker 2: I feel like, ultimately you just have to let go

449
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: of trying to control it and just be like, yo,

450
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Speaker 2: it's not the same for everybody, appy you're pointed out,

451
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Speaker 2: not even the same in different countries, different cultures, is

452
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Speaker 2: not the same.

453
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Speaker 1: You do the best you can.

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Speaker 2: Vast majority of people will be understanding those who don't.

455
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Speaker 2: If it's hysterical, it's historical, so it's probably some internalized shit.

456
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Speaker 2: If they truly just go off on somebody who made

457
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Speaker 2: a mistake and didn't mean to you that it's probably

458
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Speaker 2: some internal shit where they got to work on, because

459
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Speaker 2: that's gonna happen every day of your life, that somebody.

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Speaker 1: Going not be perfect.

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Speaker 2: Sofa King says, I had a minor technical, difficult technical

462
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Speaker 2: question while catching up on episode twenty five thirty three

463
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Speaker 2: The War Report. I heard you ask Gastor a question

464
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Speaker 2: was cut off guard by the podcast cutting to anchor

465
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Speaker 2: AD to an anchor AD before I played this, it

466
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Speaker 2: played his answer, which led me to wonder if you

467
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Speaker 2: and Karen have to put have any input on where

468
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Speaker 2: the ads get inserted or is that up to the host?

469
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Speaker 2: Oh no, we I did that on purpose. Stop I

470
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Speaker 2: cut this show up and tell it where to put

471
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Speaker 2: the ask. The only thing I don't know is which

472
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Speaker 2: ad is gonna play right, And that is apparently based.

473
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Speaker 1: On y'all's algorithm.

474
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Speaker 2: So whatever your rhythm, whatever your phone and your other

475
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Speaker 2: listening choices and stuff are, it determines what kind of

476
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Speaker 2: ads you get. That being said, like when we do

477
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Speaker 2: longer style podcasts, especially that are more interview and not

478
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Speaker 2: segment based, I will put the ad sometimes in like

479
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Speaker 2: the pregnant pousits of a question the Cliffhanger type of deal,

480
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Speaker 2: because I want people to, you know, to keep listening obviously,

481
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Speaker 2: and it may disrupt the flow, but there's no that's

482
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Speaker 2: what ads do.

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Speaker 1: They disrupt the flow.

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Speaker 2: There's there's no ad that like if an ad is

485
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Speaker 2: just completely The only thing I've thought about maybe doing

486
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Speaker 2: is like put all the ads in one section, But

487
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Speaker 2: then at that point, I'm just doing myself at the

488
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Speaker 2: service because we do get paid for these ads, and

489
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Speaker 2: we do want people to listen to them, and I

490
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Speaker 2: know people skip forward all the time. I'm not offended

491
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Speaker 2: by it, but it's like, you know, we put it

492
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Speaker 2: in there, cauz, that was just a good to me.

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Speaker 1: It was a good spot.

494
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Speaker 2: And I experiment based on the shows and where it

495
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Speaker 2: flows and stuff. But I normally try to put them

496
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Speaker 2: around segment breaks. But as y'all can tell, we have

497
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Speaker 2: people on, we don't always get to do a lot

498
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Speaker 2: of segments, or the segments are all backloaded at the end,

499
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Speaker 2: and it's like, I don't want to put faux ad

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Speaker 2: three ads in the last twenty minutes of the podcast.

501
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Speaker 2: So I got to figure out, you know, like so

502
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Speaker 2: you from Brooklyn Son, what's going on?

503
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Speaker 1: It's like what's going on? And a new ad pop up?

504
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Speaker 1: So all right. The poll was do you have long COVID?

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Speaker 1: Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: Zero people have long COVID on our website pole yeah,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent say no.

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Speaker 1: That's good. But y'all remember on Spotify them people got.

509
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Speaker 2: Money, they can, they've been going to parties, they've been vacation,

510
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Speaker 2: they've been living like the.

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Speaker 3: One percent, they've been going to the orges.

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Speaker 2: Eight percent of them have long COVID and ninety two

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Speaker 2: percent do not. So the people with the money been

514
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Speaker 2: out here, you know, doing what people with money doing.

515
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Speaker 3: Right.

516
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Speaker 2: The comments was Q and A was legs hips and

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Speaker 2: body body A true BC anthem says Kayla, I mean

518
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Speaker 2: Kyler Uh. David says, got them from those Korean hot dogs.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Chris says quti with a booty O Heaven's Kevin says,

521
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Speaker 2: to weigh in on the Spotify thing. I know sometimes

522
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Speaker 2: after the algorithm ads play, Spotify skips to the next episode,

523
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Speaker 2: there still marks it is played.

524
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Speaker 1: Not sure if I'm the only one's happens to know.

525
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Speaker 1: A couple of.

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Speaker 2: People hit me up about that, and I sent anchor

527
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Speaker 2: a notification of help desk thing about it this week

528
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Speaker 2: and describe.

529
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Speaker 1: That I described the incident.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know that they fixed it though, I

531
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Speaker 2: don't even know if they can duplicate it on their thing.

532
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Speaker 2: I know they were saying it happens to a lot

533
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Speaker 2: of people with the free Spotify, not the premium. They

534
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Speaker 2: were saying it could be the based on which ad

535
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Speaker 2: it is that does it, because someone that wrote in

536
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Speaker 2: said there was a specific ad. If you have more

537
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Speaker 2: information about this and it's still happening to you, email

538
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Speaker 2: us the blackouts as at gmail dot com. I will

539
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: forward it on to the anchor help desk so that

540
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Speaker 2: they can get to the bottom of this problem, because

541
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Speaker 2: obviously we don't want this. And I could tell from

542
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Speaker 2: our stats something was happening because with our stats it

543
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Speaker 2: shows us like the listener drop off per episode, and

544
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Speaker 2: a lot of times it would get to the third

545
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Speaker 2: ad and then this big dropoff, this precipitous dropoff will happen,

546
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Speaker 2: And I was like, no, why the fuck, Like, are

547
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Speaker 2: people just turn off?

548
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Speaker 1: Are they listening for the ads?

549
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Speaker 2: There's plenty of show after the ads, and they used

550
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Speaker 2: to listen all the way to the end.

551
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Speaker 1: And we were retaining a high percentage.

552
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Speaker 2: But what it must have been is that third ad

553
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: it skips to the end or something.

554
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Speaker 1: A lot of people or after not even the third act.

555
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Speaker 2: Some ads it skips to the end and there was

556
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Speaker 2: big drop offs and then they go back and listen.

557
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Speaker 2: But it makes it look like our show dropped all

558
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Speaker 2: the while, Nick Ju says, body, Body says, I.

559
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Speaker 1: Don't know who told her that was a good song.

560
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah they all saw, says introvert and legs if everybody also, yeah,

561
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Speaker 2: we old good point.

562
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Speaker 1: Episode twenty five thirty seven full.

563
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Speaker 2: Circle moment where we had Jordan Temple on a writer, producer, playwright,

564
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Speaker 2: all this stuff everything, and.

565
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Speaker 1: It was a fun episode. A lot of people enjoy him.

566
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Speaker 2: We got one comment Blue Cast says, Jordan Temple is

567
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: so cute and talented. I love it when you interview creators.

568
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: I hope you are able to talk to more writers.

569
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Speaker 2: Thank you for this interview.

570
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Speaker 1: Well, we got a lot of.

571
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Speaker 2: Guests coming up if everything works out, so a lot

572
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Speaker 2: of I've been booking, booking.

573
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Speaker 1: Booking, and I'm so excited about to get Karen.

574
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Speaker 2: It's so excited about that. Guess y'all, Okay, yes, guess y'all.

575
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Speaker 2: You don't stop That's what I like to say.

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Speaker 1: Little joke there, guys. Uh, do you have imposter syndrome? Yes?

577
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Speaker 1: Currently I used to, but not anymore or never.

578
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Speaker 3: I do. And I don't know if that's something I

579
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Speaker 3: will ever get rid of. I'm not even gonna lie.

580
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: I tried. I try my best, but but Dad, right,

581
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Speaker 3: there is an ongoing battle within myself and it's one

582
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Speaker 3: of those things where you can overcome it in some

583
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Speaker 3: situations and then something new presents itself and it's almost

584
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Speaker 3: like a reset every time. Almost I can't speak for

585
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Speaker 3: nobody else, but for me in certain situations, almost like

586
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Speaker 3: a reset and I almost have to work my way

587
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: through through that whole process again. But it's one of

588
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: those things where I'm trying my best to purge that

589
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Speaker 3: out of myself because it's not healthy. Because and what's

590
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: so funny is that, like I was in particular in

591
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Speaker 3: this even episode where we had somebody else on the

592
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Speaker 3: Dude with the we talked about the Food the Food podcast,

593
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: and we was talking about how you could be the

594
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Speaker 3: most educated in the room but have all these insecurities

595
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: hanging over yourself and somebody don't know shit coming there

596
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Speaker 3: with the most fucking confidence, and so it's one of

597
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: those things that where I you know, it's one of

598
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: those things where even as adults, you still have to

599
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 3: build confidence within yourself. Sometimes, you know, we build it

600
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Speaker 3: in children, and we tell children to do these great

601
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: and wonderful and marvelous things, but when it comes to

602
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: executing that shit yourself, it's a whole nother story.

603
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Speaker 2: And I believe you're talking about Jesse Sparks. Yeah, well

604
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Speaker 2: you're not alone. Fifty six percent of the people on

605
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Speaker 2: our website in the poll said they currently have imposter syndrome.

606
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Speaker 2: Thirty percent said they used to but not anymore, and

607
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Speaker 2: fifteen percent say never, and similar similar on our anchor pole.

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Speaker 2: Yes currently fifty percent. You know, because these people get money,

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Speaker 2: so it wasn't as high as the fifty six percent.

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Speaker 2: Thirty four percent say they used to but not anymore,

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Speaker 2: probably when they started getting that money, and sixteen percent

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00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: say never because they was born rich.

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Speaker 1: So I definitely understand.

614
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: That the degree is in you, not on you. Jordan

615
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: Temple was a quote for the show. Kyler says, it's

616
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Speaker 2: true some people have a natural niche. I wish we

617
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Speaker 2: could all figured it out faster. Nicole says, bars Cee

618
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Speaker 2: fink Lea says, ain't that the truth? Raphael says I

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Speaker 2: wrote that down that line from Jordan, thank you, Sir Katie,

620
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Speaker 2: and says, yes, I just made a TikTok about this.

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Speaker 1: Last week.

622
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Speaker 2: I was telling people I didn't get a PhD to

623
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Speaker 2: earn anybody's respect at a PhD in me to produce,

624
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Speaker 2: that's what drove me, not Ivory Tower promises. Jane says

625
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Speaker 2: that sounded like an old Kanye West line from his

626
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Speaker 2: Graduation album. I emphasized the word old on that one. Yeah,

627
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: although I think.

628
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Speaker 1: It always it does have limits though, because like I still.

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Speaker 2: Remember the day I was re listening to Dead Press,

630
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Speaker 2: like this is when we first started the podcast, so

631
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: it's had to be over ten years ago. And it's

632
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: funny because it's one of Mike Felder's like favorite things

633
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: like segments or jokes I made. But I was listening

634
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Speaker 2: to Dead Presidents and they had this song called They

635
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Speaker 2: Schools and it was like they schools can't teach us shit.

636
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Speaker 1: My people need freedom.

637
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get all I could get, so so

638
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: like it was like a deep dope song and it's

639
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Speaker 2: you know, dead Press got that you know that they

640
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Speaker 2: go hard, so it's like, you know you.

641
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Speaker 1: I was just I used to listen to this album.

642
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Speaker 1: I didn't give a fuck.

643
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: I just thought everything they said it was just amazing, right,

644
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Speaker 2: And now I look back, I'm.

645
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Like these hotel ass weirdos.

646
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: But but at the time, I was like black pour nigga.

647
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Speaker 2: But they had this line where you said something like

648
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Speaker 2: I don't have to go to school to be a doctor.

649
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: I was like, you should probably go to.

650
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Speaker 3: School, that there are some things that a PhD is required,

651
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Speaker 3: and doctor Rich lawyers.

652
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: Well, I don't doctor Rich.

653
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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about doctor Rich because you can get

654
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Speaker 2: a doctorate in a bunch of shit philosophy.

655
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about medical doctor, medical doctor doctor.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna need you to go ahead, go to school,

657
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Speaker 2: my man, I hear.

658
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: I don't want you operating on me and you and

659
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: you and you don't know no positive human body. Get

660
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: out of here.

661
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: This is like he said, Uh, you.

662
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: Can't need to tell me how many bones in the

663
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: human body. No, thank you, you said.

664
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: Your peoples understand it, but to them, you're a failure

665
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: observation and participation. My favorite teachers when they beat us

666
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: in the head with them books.

667
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: It don't reach us whether you break dance or rock sway.

668
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: The datis to be in the bathroom with a clicksmoking

669
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: read for then you know they math class ain't important

670
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: unless you adding up cash. That's these are not that's

671
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: not that's not smart in multiples, unemployment ain't rewarding. They

672
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: might as well teach us extortion. You ain't getting paid

673
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: or locked up. The principal is like you either getting

674
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: paid or locked up. The principal is like a warden

675
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: in a four year sentence. Mad niggas never finished. But

676
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean I couldn't be a doctor or a dentist.

677
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: Go to the quote the doctor and the dentists. Then

678
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: my two that yes, it's a requirement. Now some of

679
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: these other fields you and you ain't got to have

680
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: your doctormate, but you need a degree.

681
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: To quote another fake doctor, doctor Cliff Hustible.

682
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: That is the dumbest thing I've heard in my life.

683
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: No wonder you get d and everything.

684
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: Are you serious, nigga, go to school, Go to school.

685
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: I wish I would go up in a doctor's officer.

686
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: This nigga and got no motherfucking certificates.

687
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: Degree hanging up on the wall.

688
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: Listen, I dropped out school, But that don't mean I

689
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: can't still fix your teeth.

690
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Actually it does, So that's what it means today.

691
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: No, no, I doctor, you will not be fucking up

692
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: my eye.

693
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need you to get some impost syndrome about yourself.

694
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: Episode twenty five, twenty five thirty eight, Monique versus DL Hughley.

695
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: Well, we've got a couple.

696
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: Comments on this one, and of course there's been a

697
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: lot of updates that just happened.

698
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: A says, J's updated like fucking Firmwell, Appa says, when

699
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: I started having periods, it was bad.

700
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: It got way easier over time.

701
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: Now after having two kids, it's not bothering me at

702
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: all anymore. This isn't a pro life ad, just my experience.

703
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: Maybe some of the pain receptors down there just gave up,

704
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: oh being a woman.

705
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: It's fun that Dave.

706
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: Was like, you know what, fuck it, fuck it, two

707
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: babies all I guess how calm.

708
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: Down even He says, DL and Monique are both super

709
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: problematic people. But I'm beginning to feel like Moa is

710
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: her own worst enemy. There's nothing anyone can do or

711
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: say to harm her career that she isn't doing to yep, yeah,

712
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: between her and Sydney. I mean, it's bad. I don't

713
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: know if I should wait till tomorrow to do it

714
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: or talk about it now. But like the latest thing

715
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: she did, and maybe we'll talk about it again tomorrow,

716
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

717
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: But the latest thing she did was the daughter, So

718
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: D L.

719
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: Hughley's daughter was sexually assaulted and at the time D L.

720
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: Hughley did not believe her because he thought it was

721
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: she was accusing his friend. And he said this on

722
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: Sway in the morning.

723
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: And honestly, we might have to talk about tomorrow.

724
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: But honestly, even the way that clip is circulating as

725
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: a knock.

726
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: Against DL is out of context.

727
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: Is well, it's not just that it's out of context,

728
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: it's people are so vindictive and so petty they did

729
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: not take a second to stop and think and realize

730
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: how wrong they are. And and I and I and

731
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm one of those people because I

732
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: remember when that clip was first circulating. And I can't

733
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: be sure because I haven't gone back and listened episode,

734
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: but I feel like I was one of the people

735
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: that probably came down on him, and I mean, he

736
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: don't know me from pan A campaign. He probably never

737
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: heard the show in his life. But I apologize I

738
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: was wrong. That was that was entirely fucked up. If

739
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: if I, if I was out.

740
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: There like, yeah, nigga, you did this.

741
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: That's so wrong. That is the opposite lesson of what

742
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: should have been learned in that moment. That was a

743
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: person coming out and saying I fucked up.

744
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: I was wrong for that.

745
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: And he even regrets, I regretting, says and I can

746
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: never get that moment back with my daughter, like I

747
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: hurt my daughter forever with that shit. And he said

748
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: because the only thing she ended up learning was that

749
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: her dad couldn't be bothered because it was inconvenient. And

750
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: he was saying this in the context of telling Sway

751
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: and these other black men on these radio shows or

752
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: at the time were being very defensive of Bill Cosby.

753
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: He was saying it in the way of these Cosby

754
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: allegations to say, this is.

755
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: Why we need to believe these women accusing Cosby, because

756
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: we're never gonna get these moments back of hurting them

757
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: with our disbelief. I'm sorry, but that's the opposite of

758
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: what the fuck people are been circulating that clip saying

759
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: and that is very very disingenuous, very fucked up. And

760
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: it's been years so we've had chances to correct that

761
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: and we still haven't. So the fact that people shared

762
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: that and went aha, and that's why Monique is right,

763
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: then I don't need no facts. That says a lot

764
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: about just the gender wars, the toxicness of the internet.

765
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 3: Gender wars run deep. I don't think people realize how

766
00:37:54,680 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: much they're affected online by gender wars subconsciously and consciously.

767
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: When people hear shit, they just automatically just divide the waters, divide,

768
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 3: and then they take they work back with them there.

769
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, So.

770
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: I like honestly rewatching that clip because what happened is

771
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: Monique shared that cliub and this is the.

772
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Second time it's come up.

773
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: The first time that did it really came up against him,

774
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: I understood it was when he was picking on Terry

775
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: Crews for not doing anything. According to Dale Hughley, when

776
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: the man groke him at that party, even though we

777
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: found out that he like grabbed the dude and all

778
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: that and pushed him away and all the stuff. But

779
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: Deale thought it was more funny to be like, look

780
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: at this big, muscle bound man and he didn't do shit.

781
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: He froze. Ha ha ha ha ha.

782
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: And then people shared that clip to be like you

783
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: froze when it was your own daughter, And I said,

784
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: you know what, that is relevant because he he should know,

785
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: he should know that someone's reaction in that moment isn't

786
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: necessarily a value judgment of them as a person. And

787
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: when that stuff is actually happening, you have all these theories,

788
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: but when it's happening to you, you don't know what

789
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: you would do.

790
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: So we all need to chill out. Okay. That was

791
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: a great point.

792
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: When it was Monique bringing it up this week to

793
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: say he doesn't protect black women.

794
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm a black woman.

795
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: I love us for real, and every almost every person

796
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: in her Instagram comments was like, this isn't it, sis,

797
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: Why are you bringing if you protecting black women, why

798
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: are you bring up another black woman's trauma, trauma that

799
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: they've dealt with, trauma that's in they family. She's a

800
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: real person. You just want to score points. It has

801
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: nothing to do with your contract. It's nothing to do

802
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: with DL protecting or not protecting you. Like as far

803
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: like I look at Monique.

804
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: Now because to me, I was a holdout.

805
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: I was definitely a fan of hers and trying to

806
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: be like, ah, you know, she's so talented, but some

807
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: of the shit she's done in the wake of this week,

808
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm good, I'm good.

809
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't need it. It does like it's such a

810
00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: fucking head.

811
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: You're always gonna be like you and that, and Sydney

812
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: gonna always be a problem this niggas. In the video

813
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: where she's trying to explain why it's okay for her

814
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: to beat this way, Sidney is right behind her doing

815
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: most of the fucking talking, which I'm sorry, but all

816
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: that boss woman shit and then you turn around letting

817
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Daddy talk over you. It just don't feel right. It's like,

818
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like this pro black woman power shit

819
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: that that she's pitching either, because it's this nigga saying

820
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: all the.

821
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: Black power words.

822
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, baby, because tell him, like, because see

823
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: Bonnika is a black woman, and see these brothers. If

824
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: another black man had did this to DL, I'm like,

825
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: for another black man that did this, dl D would

826
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: probably be in his ass way harder because DL's has

827
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: been low key being kind of light about this shit.

828
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: Like I heard Corey Holk I'm talking about this ship,

829
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, that's that's what the fuck.

830
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: If DL was really problematic and fucked up as people

831
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: think he is, that's what the fuck he would have

832
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: been talking like yes, so like you definitely don't want

833
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: that problem. But yeah, So I watched some of that

834
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: live and had to turn it off about halfway through,

835
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: and like, within the first ten minutes, she's defending Kanye

836
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: West stalking Kim Kardashian like she the way that I

837
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: say meg feminism is to Megan Kelly as pro black

838
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: is to Kanye, as being a black woman is to Monique,

839
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: It's all the same shit. It's whatever is convenient for

840
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: me is what the fuck black people should be on,

841
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: and whatever the fuck is not convenient for me, then

842
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: that that means you a coon, That means you sold

843
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: me out. So yeah, man, I listen and like a

844
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: lot of people aren't listening to these lives. They're not

845
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: doing anything, they're not checking anything out because they already

846
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: don't like or do like one of them correct and

847
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: then they just go off of vibes and I'm like,

848
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm watching this shit, because I won't want to go

849
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: on the show and talk about shit that I didn't see,

850
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: and I don't want to just be like everybody else

851
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, I mean, I just don't like

852
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: that nigga, Like I'm.

853
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: Gonna look it up and I'm like, yeah, that's that.

854
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: I can't think of.

855
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: Anything more opposite of protecting black women than bringing up

856
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: somebody's rape to score points about a quote unquote contract dispute.

857
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: We are so far from where this started.

858
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: Hey, even the stuff with the radio show where she's like,

859
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: I was disrespected on the radio show.

860
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: D L.

861
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: Hughley wasn't there that day and the show never aired,

862
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: So what are we?

863
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: What was the problem again?

864
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: Like like like there was also a way to interpret

865
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: that as Hey, this woman asked a question on his show.

866
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: He didn't like it.

867
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: He didn't put the show out because he didn't like

868
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: that they disrespect it. Instead, she took it as I

869
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: was asked this question and fuck DL Hughley, Like that's

870
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: crazy to me.

871
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just feel like.

872
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: Mo moniguas just out our way out there. And all

873
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: I saw in that video was Sydney pumping her head up,

874
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 2: making shit, instigating shit, And I can't imagine any manager

875
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 2: or business person that would operate that way that wasn't

876
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: like family or something, because I feel like an actual

877
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: professional would come in there and be.

878
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: Like, hey, you fucking up money.

879
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: No, we gotta calm this. The vote you don't.

880
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: Turn this shit off and have a conversation.

881
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lakita says, who is Sidney. Sidney is her husband,

882
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: the man that she called daddy that is also her

883
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: manager and all this other shit and writes her contracts

884
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: and it always be the contracts and the money that's

885
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: fucked up. It's always the money and the contracts is

886
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: fucked up, but it's never his fault, so it's got

887
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: to be somebody fault. But yeah, man, I don't know.

888
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: Man.

889
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: I felt and I still mostly feel sad, Like I'm

890
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: not mad. I'm not mad at Onny, but it's just

891
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: like you got to make a boundary sometimes and be like, well,

892
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: that person just don't want the best for themselves, and

893
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: good luck to them because and and honestly, good luck

894
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: to the people that keep falling for that shit, because

895
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: I've seen people try to defend her off of GP

896
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: and it's always gut balls out to the same two things.

897
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Either A, I'm just teen black women. It don't matter

898
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: how fucked up it is, even if they're out here

899
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: using someone else's sexual assault, the score points that apparently

900
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: that counts as team black women somehow now. But then

901
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: the other part, or is I just hate dl Hughley,

902
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: to which I'm like, Okay, you can hate somebody and

903
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: then somebody can do something that's wrong, like you know

904
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: that because us be honest, if the whole point is

905
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: you don't like somebody else, A ton of people that

906
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: just don't like Monique, and even when she's at situations

907
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: where she's been the one that seemed to be wrong,

908
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: they're like, fuck that bit, she ain't funny, ha ha ha.

909
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: So to me, if you're saying, well, those people were

910
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: wrong for that, why are you now joining in on

911
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: the being wrong for that?

912
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

913
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: Like we've talked about stuff on the show before where

914
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: dal Hughey said or done something where it's like, yeah,

915
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: that was fucked up, And even with that, I'm not

916
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: gonna be like and that's why it's okay to bring.

917
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Up his daughter's rate. That's not okay to score.

918
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: A point on him, and I yeah, I, man, that

919
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: is so fucked up, that's all.

920
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine. There are still people.

921
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're gonna find a way to make excuses,

922
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: but I honestly think this is.

923
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: That kind of thing where the Internet is not your friend.

924
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: It is not.

925
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: They're really just egging on a show and trying to

926
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: keep you going because you're getting them content and entertainment.

927
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: But a real g a real friend will call you and.

928
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: Be like, hey man, what you're doing is not okay,

929
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: and are you okay? Because this doesn't seem like constructive

930
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 2: behavior and you're burning down all this shit for what?

931
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: All right? All right?

932
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Uh? Who are gonna be there? Sweden? That was comment,

933
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm sorry I skipped past this. I didn't

934
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: even be that.

935
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: The the pole period Currench serial a good idea of

936
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: bad idea. Twelve percent say good idea, eighty eight percent

937
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: say bad. Twenty three percent of the people that can

938
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: afford it say good idea, but seventy seven percent say bad,

939
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: so it's.

940
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: Mostly a bad idea. Who all gonna be there? Sweden?

941
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: Was the comment we had people leave answer that Edu niggers,

942
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: you're not yourself when you're unannounced.

943
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, you gotta eat for you get the sweten house.

944
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: Christie says, facts, because I do blue apron and those

945
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: servants ain't big enough to share. Oh that felt a

946
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 2: little Swedish.

947
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: Ain't then over there with the money blue apron, this blue.

948
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Apron, the Swedish meat balls, you order that every time.

949
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: Ms Bond says, now I sort of feel away about

950
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Akia Jay Adam jed Ilmo says, my sister and I

951
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: had such bad peers with vomiting and we had to

952
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: miss school until we got a prebscription for pain relief.

953
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: Yes, surviving Karen.

954
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, a lot of Yeah, when people say things,

955
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 3: they do not realize that for a lot of people

956
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: that have uteruses, they could be bedridden where they can't

957
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 3: move for days on end. You can't do anything because

958
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: you know it's a process, like you know, you're literally

959
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: bleeding straight NonStop for days and you can't turn that

960
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: shit off. That's not fun and it's draining and it's exhausting.

961
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Bure br Bua Bulah bure A Bulah says mid Midsummar

962
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: Raphael says, now now we all know we can't be

963
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: having anti racist babies on our TV. That's the fast

964
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: way to encourage the legalization of abortion. Deny that man

965
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: the show just like the sweets, do not they kids Dinner.

966
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: We had episode twenty five thirty nine.

967
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Obi Wan coming to the Cookout. That was the last

968
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: episode of the week, and we had five four comments.

969
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: Appia says, when the COVID numbers go up in the US,

970
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: they go down here and vice versa. They are they're

971
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 2: on the way down here, like now they are falling

972
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: here COVID scenes. To concentrate on one content, I guess now,

973
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: I'm glad we already had it, but only because I

974
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: know it was mild at the three COVID vaccines.

975
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: You can't know it beforehand. We're playing the European vacation

976
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: this year. Sounds impressive.

977
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: We already live here, says five stars for each episode.

978
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: This week saw the guest line up for the entire month.

979
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: I want you all to have all the stars glittering

980
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: rainbows the whole month of June.

981
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: Much love to you both, Stay safe out in these

982
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: COVID streets.

983
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 3: Thank you.

984
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

985
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 2: We got some big guests coming up as soon and

986
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: returning friends and all that stuff. We got Zach Sherwin

987
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: comedian the first time on the show this week Tuesday

988
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: got Nick Chu coming up on the eighth, my man

989
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: Zach Ice, who wrote on Game Theory with me, is

990
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: gonna be the Sunday after next, then Roy wad Junior,

991
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: Brandon Collins keV on stage, and I'm still like out

992
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: contacting a book and more people behind the scenes.

993
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, we got a lot of other people coming

994
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: up this month, so let's see Eve. He says.

995
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: I voted knowing the poll because the poll was did

996
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: you pay attention to the.

997
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: Depth herd trial.

998
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: I voted knowing the poe regarding Amber Heard and Johnny

999
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: Depp because I didn't actively seek out any articles about them,

1000
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: but they were nearly impossible to avoid on any social

1001
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: media platform.

1002
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: It was like, you're gonna get this shit. You're like,

1003
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: I don't care. They were like, Nope, you're gonna get

1004
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 3: it anyway.

1005
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it.

1006
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 2: I saw stories on my Twitter timeline, on my Instagram

1007
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: et floor page. I suggested suggest videos on YouTube. I

1008
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: didn't ask for any of the shit. Yeah, man, let

1009
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: me tell y'all. Podcast to listen to this.

1010
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: Week is on the Media.

1011
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: On the Media had a great episode called How the

1012
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: Media Failed Ever heard and for people like me that

1013
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: really didn't pay attention to this, and I'm not gonna

1014
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: even try to pretend to be a good person about it.

1015
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: I was like, that is white people shit, and I

1016
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: don't care. That was literally what I thought.

1017
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: It was actually kind of fucked up to think about

1018
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 2: now in hindsight, But I knew I wasn't gonna stay

1019
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: up all day watching the trial.

1020
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't gonna I knew that.

1021
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: There were allegations going back and forth. Johnny Depp had

1022
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: already lost his trial in Europe, which to me was like, yeah,

1023
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: because I think he did it. When I remember the

1024
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: evidence that did come out, the recordings, the friends and

1025
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: the bruises and the pictures and the police and all

1026
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: that shit, And I remember people trying to basically be

1027
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: like criminal like when you watch true crime, like trying

1028
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: to solrow the crime right and turned her into this conniving,

1029
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: evil woman that married this man, framed him for.

1030
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: Abuse for years to what exactly. People, Oh, it's gonna

1031
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: help her career in Hollywood.

1032
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: How when being a victim of abuse has never helped

1033
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: somebody in Hollywood, Like there's nobody, Like she wouldn't have

1034
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: been a star until she got sexually assaulted or beaten

1035
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: or whatever. Right, But they really broke down how because

1036
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: they had won, a lot of left wing media spaces

1037
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: ignored his trial because they were like, oh, it's messy,

1038
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Oh it's just it's it's just pop culture stuff and

1039
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: missed the significance of it, which is essentially a woman

1040
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: speaking on her abuse, not even naming her abuse her,

1041
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: but speaking on her abuse in a way that you know,

1042
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: most of us knew, like she probably told about Johnny depth.

1043
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: She wrote an op ed about her abuse.

1044
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: A woman doing that can now be considered defaming the

1045
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: person who potentially abused her. Now as a precedent, that

1046
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: should be a bit that's kind of big news as

1047
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: a precedent, you.

1048
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Not saying that, not saying that

1049
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: we want to like.

1050
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: Hold up people that are like falsely accusing people, blah

1051
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: blah blah. But like if the president is someone can

1052
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: abuse me and I can't talk about it without me

1053
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: getting sued, it's kind of scary. But once again, it

1054
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: was enough evidence for her to win in the UK,

1055
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: and people were trying to act like that case was

1056
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: rigged or something.

1057
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: But the UK has a higher standard of.

1058
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, a lower standard of defamation than the US.

1059
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: The US has like a much it's almost impossible. And

1060
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: he won a quote unquote and then she won quote

1061
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: as well, but he won all these damages and stuff,

1062
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: and yeah, if this is a precedent, is this is

1063
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 2: something where rich powerful men can start being like because

1064
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: how many women have done this in Hollywood and stuff? Uh,

1065
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: where it's like this man busted my ear drum and

1066
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: we can figure out through the timeline which X of

1067
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: Holly Berry's busted our ear drum and permanently made her

1068
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: lose hearing in one ear because he was abusive, and

1069
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: we figured that out. And then that person goes, I'm

1070
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: suing that bitch.

1071
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: She can't prove it with me, and I'm and and

1072
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: and and and.

1073
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: And I don't I want to clear my good name,

1074
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: even though she never said my name, but y'all figured out.

1075
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: It was me, So I'm suing.

1076
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be a slippery slope, so I

1077
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: definitely get it. But it was a great listen because

1078
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: there's a lot of details. I just only heard the

1079
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: most relatious details on social media and because the quote

1080
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: unquote good journalist and all this stuff and the and

1081
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: let's be honest, a lot of this has to do

1082
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: with people just liking Johnny.

1083
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: Depp because of that.

1084
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: The other side of the argument kind of never really

1085
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: happened online. It was only trolls, it was only stuff.

1086
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: It was stuff like and I saw some of these

1087
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: memes where like she her defense lawyer held up a

1088
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: makeup case because for dramatic effects. Someone asked like, well,

1089
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: if she was getting abused, how come people don't see

1090
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: all these bruises on her face, and the defense the

1091
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: attorney for her hand up a makeup case. And I

1092
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: was like, because of this makeup concealer, you can put

1093
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: it on your face. People don't know you got hit.

1094
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: And then the people online from TikTok and stuff took

1095
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: that screenshot and sent it to this company, and the

1096
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: people on TikTok and stuff, it is very like a

1097
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: culture of we are talking shit about Amber her. She's

1098
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: a line bitch, she's a cunt, she's this, that and

1099
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: the other, and they make jokes about it and everything.

1100
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: It was like all the content that was huge disconnect

1101
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 2: from that, all the content that was blowing up in

1102
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: regards to this case, was content that was Amberhard is

1103
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: a bitch that is framing Johnny Depp.

1104
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 3: It's pr team get a rampage too. They just went

1105
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: out and just pumped it into the system.

1106
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's also just.

1107
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: Like The Daily Wire got caught paying to put propaganda

1108
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: up there that was anti Amber Heard.

1109
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: The right wing.

1110
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: People see this as a big statement against the Me

1111
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: too a movement and the end of women.

1112
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: Basically having any say.

1113
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: And what happened with the Amber Heard timeline is that

1114
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: Amberhard basically says he abused me for a couple of years.

1115
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: He blacked out, and then he hits me and stuff,

1116
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: and then he says he doesn't remember it, and he

1117
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: sends me these like kind of like there's a bunch

1118
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: of texts from him that are kind of like ambiguous,

1119
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: whereas like he's apologizing for something but not never saying

1120
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 2: I was hitting you right.

1121
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: And so.

1122
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: At some point she says, I started fighting back, and

1123
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: so people go fighting back, y'all.

1124
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: Both abusive y'all.

1125
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: Just like watching the end of What's Loud Got to

1126
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: do It and being like, I continue to turn off just.

1127
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: An abusive toxic couple.

1128
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: It's like well, she took it, and then she said

1129
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: not again and fought that nigga back in that limo.

1130
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: But in real life in her books, she.

1131
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: Was like, I fought this nigga for years, like it

1132
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: wasn't no one time, but in the movie it's just

1133
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: one time.

1134
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: And then we were all like and then she won

1135
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: at any rate.

1136
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: So they take this picture of the attorney holding up

1137
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: the makeup case.

1138
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: They tagged the makeup maker.

1139
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: What do they get to do and say, because this

1140
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: is how toxic they want her to be.

1141
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: They're tagging them like.

1142
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: Look at this, this bitch is saying she's using your

1143
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: makeup to cover her bruises, and you know she's a

1144
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: liar and da da da, and so it was such

1145
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: a naggative connotation to it. The makeup people come out

1146
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: and say, well, we didn't make this particular case of

1147
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: makeup until x like last year or something, which is

1148
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: after this lawyer saying it was used to.

1149
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: Conceal her bruises.

1150
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: The lawyer wasn't holding up to say it was literally

1151
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: this fucking case of makeup, right, he was just.

1152
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: Saying makeup in general.

1153
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: But that meme went around, and that like it went

1154
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: around enough when people were like, this is more proof

1155
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: that she's a liar.

1156
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: It's that kind of stuff that bake up people was like,

1157
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 3: we don't want to be associated with this foolishness.

1158
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: No, So it's that kind of thing going unchallenged, right,

1159
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: that basically gave the whole discourse to Johnny Depp and

1160
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: to the trolls and all that stuff. So that's why

1161
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: it looks the way it looks, where it's like, if

1162
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: you go online, the only commentary you're really going to

1163
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: see is it was her. It's all her fault, she's

1164
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: a liar because a lot of good people checked out

1165
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: because they just were like, it's pop culture. It has

1166
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: nothing to do with me, it's just their business. What

1167
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: she seems kind of messy too. And like I said,

1168
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: listening on to media is like whether you agree or

1169
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: disagree is just a good case studying.

1170
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: Like, oh, so.

1171
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: That's why the only things I've been seeing about how

1172
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: are negative and and I've been seeing people taking in

1173
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: by that, you know, So, yeah, it sounded sounded real

1174
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: fucked up anyway. Eight percent of audience did not pay

1175
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: pay did pay attention. Ninety two percent did not pay attention,

1176
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, like I said, I feel bad saying it

1177
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: now because at the listening episode, I was like, fuck

1178
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: that was that may have been a big deal, uh,

1179
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: because I honestly didn't think she would lose, because I

1180
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: was like, I remember all the shit that Johnny Depp

1181
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: did and it's not just her like this nigga was

1182
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: a blackout drunk.

1183
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: He's coming on fucked up like his.

1184
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: People, his financial people are like, we're done with you.

1185
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: You spending all your money on fucking wine. Like it

1186
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: just seemed like, yeah, he seems like a mess, probably

1187
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: some alcohol abuse situation there. And you know, I guess

1188
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: I just underestimated the charisma of a man that people

1189
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: just really like. In twenty twenty two, I thought we

1190
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: were past the point of like, well, when people really

1191
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: like you, it doesn't matter. But I guess Johnny Depp,

1192
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: no matter how much shit he's been through, people are like,

1193
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: I just really like him, and so I'm gonna just.

1194
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: Look the other way on this shit.

1195
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: And the similar results six percent yes on our Spotify.

1196
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I said, I feel bad.

1197
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: Now because I really did just be like, oh them

1198
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: white people and just moved on.

1199
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: But it sound like she might have got a roll deal.

1200
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: Aaron says, how did y'all come up with the taste

1201
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: and bullet barb being a unofficial weapon of sporting weapon?

1202
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: Taser was because we were, like a long long time

1203
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: ago just every time cops pull up, they shoot niggas,

1204
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: and it just if they gonna pull out a weapon,

1205
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: why can't it just.

1206
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: Be the taser?

1207
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: Yes, like and trust that taser will still take your

1208
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: ass down, right.

1209
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: But like, why not? Why it got to be the

1210
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: bullet for us? Right?

1211
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: Why can't we just get the electrical vaults and just

1212
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: stop moving?

1213
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: And bullet bar became an unofficial sport because we just

1214
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: liked that video and thought it was funny. That was

1215
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: it and it's not the official sport because we ain't

1216
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: gonna get sued. That brother seemed like he needed some

1217
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: money at the time, and I didn't want my podcast

1218
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: to be part of that.

1219
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: Miss Barr says, done. Oh, I said, like and subscribe

1220
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: to our YouTube page.

1221
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: Ms Barr says, done to see Finkley us as you

1222
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: already know. Raphael says, immediately you announced that you had

1223
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: a YouTube page and I subscribed. I'm not watch it,

1224
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: but you will always get alight for me any time

1225
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: them in that galaxy.

1226
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: Aaron says done.

1227
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: She was the person that asked me why did I

1228
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: put the videos up? And I was like, oh, yeah,

1229
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: I should look into that, and the coach said sure

1230
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: did Jane says yes and yes.

1231
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: Two black thumbs up.

1232
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody took time out to do that, because

1233
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: I have been posting our videos there and I've been

1234
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: having to learn to edit very simple edits to edit

1235
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: out the music so they won't get copyright claims and flagged,

1236
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: because that's a big thing with YouTube and one of

1237
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: the reasons I never.

1238
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: Really wanted to put this stuff over there.

1239
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, sometimes we play a song, but apparently they're

1240
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: not muting or deleting the videos. They just basically flag

1241
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: it and say, like in certain countries that might I

1242
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: play but but anyway, yes, So those videos are out there,

1243
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: and some of our recent interviews are on there. I'm

1244
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: going back and grabbing some of our classic interviews as

1245
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: well or episodes, and I'm putting all our current stuff

1246
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: on there as well, uh so that that people can

1247
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: can enjoy it. And people are leaving a lot of

1248
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: comments yay.

1249
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: So just it's fun. You know, I.

1250
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: Understand YouTube is kind of community over there too, So

1251
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: hopeful world, Yeah, so hopefully that means that y'all are

1252
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: commenting and liking stuff over there. But yeah, like, we

1253
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: got nine comments on our obi wan welcome to the

1254
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: Cookout episode which we just did a couple of days ago,

1255
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: and eighty eight views, which is a lot for us, like,

1256
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: so yeah, I appreciate it. And uh although now see

1257
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: that's the only video that got some dislikes, got one dislike,

1258
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: but oh well, that person is probably piece of shit.

1259
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: But thank y'all home for for fucking with us. We

1260
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: appreciate y'all.

1261
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna enjoy the positive comments as long as

1262
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: we can. I'm gonna tell you all right now, and

1263
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 3: it come over there and white supremacist get it, the

1264
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 3: comments will go off because I'm not dealing with that.

1265
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's let's see no voicemails this week.

1266
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: So let's just get right into the emails which you

1267
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: can email us the Blackout Tips at gmail dot com.

1268
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 2: And of course there was nothing in the physical mail

1269
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: today either, So let's check out the emails you sent

1270
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: to the Blackout Tips at gmail dot com. Oh, this

1271
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: is a big block of text, all right, let's just

1272
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 2: get it started.

1273
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: I wonder how does this happen to block text?

1274
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if if they send

1275
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 3: it like that or they do it and it just

1276
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 3: squishes it together. Might be the what there's uh whatever

1277
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: they're writing on.

1278
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not like there's mean or crazy. It's

1279
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: just a big block anyway.

1280
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

1281
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: This is from uh Dray, who says Rod and Karen,

1282
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about hitting you two with a voicemail

1283
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: or email since I got put onto the podcast a

1284
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: few months ago. However, I hadn't become a premium member yet,

1285
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: even though I know that's not a requirement. Something in

1286
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: me just didn't want to take up space on the

1287
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: podcast till I had taken that additional step to show

1288
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: my support for.

1289
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: What you both do here.

1290
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: This is probably because I have a podcast myself, and

1291
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: even though I love and appreciate any and everyone takes

1292
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: time out to listen to it, I extra love and

1293
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: appreciate the ones that give me money because ours don't

1294
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: want to work for the white man no more.

1295
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: But I digress. Now you got my fifteen.

1296
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: Let me begin by saying, Rod, you are a funny

1297
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: ass motherfucker with the sensibility about the world and the

1298
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: willingness to adapt the new information. That is refreshing to

1299
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: hear from another black man on a consistent basis. Even

1300
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: with some of my best friends, it's difficult to push

1301
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: certain conversations forward because of some of the things that

1302
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,479
Speaker 2: we grew up doing, saying, and believing were not only

1303
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: thought to be acceptable, but actual characteristics and behaviors that

1304
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: made you a man.

1305
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: So to hear you.

1306
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: Speak openly about how there are things you have learned

1307
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: over the time that are insensitive or offensive to.

1308
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: Other groups, whether it be using words like the fler or.

1309
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: Referring to women as bitches, or offering or offensive to

1310
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: other groups, whether it be using words oh wait, I'm sorry,

1311
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: or any other trash behavior we grew up doing. Is

1312
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: refreshing because it's not preachy, as if you're just above

1313
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: having doing done those things you now believe to be wrong.

1314
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: I hope that made sense. I think that makes sense. Yeah,

1315
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: I mean it's hard because, like one, you're never gonna

1316
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,479
Speaker 2: be perfect too. Five years from now, sensibilities could change

1317
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: and we could be thinking differently about shit. And yeah,

1318
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 2: I did grow up saying a bunch of shit, Like

1319
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 2: not just saying as you said, You're not even just

1320
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: saying it, Like that was how we defined masculinity, Like

1321
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 2: how fucked up could you be towards women? How fucked

1322
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: up were you towards gay people? How violent were you so?

1323
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: How fucked up were you to each other?

1324
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: And it was a measurement of your masculinity.

1325
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just that and what was cool?

1326
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: You know, like the coolest thing you can do is

1327
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: be fucking cold and heartless towards a woman. And shit, Meanwhile,

1328
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: those were not the things that felt cool to me

1329
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: in real life. And honestly, I think for a lot

1330
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: of them niggas, they really don't feel that those are

1331
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: the coolest things to be because you look at them

1332
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: now and you look think about like the hotel, intel,

1333
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: black man, a spear. Shit, what's it really about? If

1334
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: you get down to the core of it, what they're

1335
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: really saying is we won't love and affection from women.

1336
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 2: But so much of it is about controlling, submission, denigrating, offending, dominance.

1337
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 2: It's not real love because they don't really know how

1338
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: to express what real love is. And because that's not cool,

1339
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: because honestly, love is the ultimate submission. It is the ultimate,

1340
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: like I'm putting my life and my heart and my

1341
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 2: well being in the hands of another person, and there

1342
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: is no submission to that.

1343
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: On the other end, there's no it's the ultimate like

1344
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: it's up to you.

1345
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 2: That's love. It's up to you. Think about this way.

1346
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: For those of y'all that familiar love, you love it

1347
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: children and stuff. Every time your child leads the house,

1348
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: they got your heart in the hands because they can

1349
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: go do anything and you still gonna love them. Right

1350
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: For most of y'all, right, they can go do anything.

1351
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: It's the scariest powerless feeling. It's why you're checking the

1352
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: apps to make sure that the tracking is is day.

1353
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: On the way from the bus, is why you're so

1354
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: concerned every moment they're in school or.

1355
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: Away from you.

1356
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: It's you know, why fear goes through people when they

1357
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: hear about school shootings, and because you're you're powerless in

1358
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: the face of admitting how much you care about this person.

1359
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: And I think it's.

1360
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 2: Stuff like that that I started to see that was like,

1361
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 2: oh no, this is just all this this armor around

1362
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: these dudes is all fake. It's all phony, and it's

1363
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: all insecurity. It's an emperor with no clothes.

1364
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

1365
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: And the thing is for most people, they will extend

1366
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: that to their children, but they will not extend that

1367
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: to their spouses and their significant others. That unconditional love

1368
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 3: that you have for a child because you feel like

1369
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 3: a child can never hurt me and disappoint me. Yes,

1370
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: the child.

1371
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: All love is conditional, right in my opinion, But it

1372
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 2: is this thing of like admitting your week.

1373
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: No one wants to admit that.

1374
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: We right, honestly, at this point, after the advent of uh,

1375
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: you know, after the movement for feminism that has given

1376
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: women like not equality, but like some advantages they didn't

1377
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 2: have before. So I wouldn't even call them advantages, just

1378
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,480
Speaker 2: some fucking human decency, some options, giving women some options

1379
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 2: because we still see women are punished for being single

1380
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to the very counterparts where it comes

1381
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 2: of money and time and all this stuff. But there's

1382
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: a lot of women like I'd rather be dealing with

1383
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: this than up under some fucking man who's talking about

1384
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: I need to submit.

1385
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: And talk down.

1386
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm not shit, constantly beating on me and whipping my ass,

1387
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 3: and I'm having his kids and he ain't shit because

1388
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 3: a lot of times people go, I realdy be doing

1389
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 3: bad on myself, and men hate that shit. But for

1390
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: a lot of women, they feel like that. They feel like,

1391
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 3: if I am going to do bad, I'd rather be

1392
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 3: with me and deal with me, not be bad and

1393
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: have to deal with you and your aint shitness too

1394
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 3: on top of all this badness.

1395
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the point being like a lot of that

1396
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: stuff is about a reaction to how terrible the man

1397
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: that been when they've been.

1398
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: In charge and still are in charge.

1399
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: And so now you even have women that's on some like,

1400
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to be weak. I don't want

1401
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: to be depending on the man. I don't want admit

1402
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: I having feelings for anybody. That's just the way we've

1403
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: had to couch things because that's how fucked up shit is.

1404
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I just anyway, I just think

1405
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff.

1406
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: We learned was bad. You know.

1407
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 2: I try to read up on something, this stuff, which

1408
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't do, and I just try

1409
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: to listen to people. That's not just black men. I

1410
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: listen to black men. Obviously I'm one of them. My

1411
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: friends are and stuff. So it's not like I don't

1412
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: feel isolated from black men or black males or any

1413
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: of this shit. Niggas think I'm cool for the most part.

1414
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 2: You know, if they don't think I'm cool, it's that's

1415
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: fine with me because I'm also not like some cuck

1416
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: ass nigga that need their approval.

1417
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 3: Write and a lot of mens make decisions in their

1418
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 3: lives based off of other men, how they dress and

1419
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: how they act and all that shit. Is a lot

1420
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: of times that unless do with the women. A lot

1421
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: of times they will pick they women based off of

1422
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: what other niggas says. Don'tbody can talk about what them

1423
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 3: niggas say. Is you happy? Know what?

1424
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: Then it don't matter right like the way they might me,

1425
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 2: It's just we have opposite We have opposite core values

1426
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: in a lot of cases. So the way somebody might

1427
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: view me and the ways they think all make me

1428
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: weak with all the ways I think I'm strong and

1429
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 2: vice versa, the ways I think they're weak are the

1430
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: ways they think they're strong. And you know that shit

1431
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: is all up to you individually.

1432
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: But anyway, my.

1433
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: Whole point being like, I appreciate that I'm not trying

1434
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 2: to be different.

1435
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be honest.

1436
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 2: And I bet you if more niggas were honest and

1437
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 2: did a little bit more introspection, they sound more like me.

1438
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: But it's not cool to sound like me in a

1439
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 2: lot of cases.

1440
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: So even if it's.

1441
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 2: True, there's a lot of dudes that ain't willing to

1442
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: come out and say it. Like you listen to three

1443
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 2: dudes talk together, and let's say some issue with LGBTQ

1444
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: people comes up, and these three straight dudes are talking.

1445
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: Two of them might be fucked up.

1446
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: One of them might be fucked up, you know, but

1447
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: it's always you know, one of them might turn into

1448
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 2: a joke. Whatever, it's always the one who is like, actually,

1449
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 2: it is kind of fucked up and we shouldn't be

1450
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: doing this that has to make the joke, that has

1451
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: to downplay it, that has to acquiesce to the other people,

1452
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: because it's not cool to be that motherfucking after school

1453
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: special guy. It's like, but what is funny about them

1454
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: being like why can't they be gay? Like why is

1455
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: it bad that there's a gay person on this HBO show?

1456
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 2: And why do you always have to point that out?

1457
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: Right?

1458
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: Like, once you say it that way, it becomes like

1459
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 2: a confrontation, it becomes conflict, it becomes everything except just like, yo,

1460
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: this is the right thing to do.

1461
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: Because doing the right thing isn't cool.

1462
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: But if you laughed it off and been like pause,

1463
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: they would have been like, oh ha ha ha, my nigga,

1464
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: you know, even though you know deep down you're like

1465
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: this kind of fucked up that we only point out

1466
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: there's gay people on HBO shows, like like it could

1467
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: be twenty seven black people on this motherfucking we on

1468
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: the City and nobody's and that just don't count. But

1469
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: if there was one gay black person on there, it'd

1470
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: be like they always putting gay black people on it.

1471
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: Like it's like that kind of conversation happens all the time,

1472
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: and I'm privy to those conversations because I'm a black dude.

1473
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: It does.

1474
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: And it's also one of one of the things where

1475
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 3: for me, and this is as I've gotten older, I

1476
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 3: realized for a lot of men, some men never get

1477
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 3: out of this, because I know some old niggas is

1478
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 3: like this. But for a lot of men, as they

1479
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 3: get older, they begin to unlearn a lot of that shit,

1480
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, all the traits that they

1481
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: thought were unmanly and uncool. They doing that shit now

1482
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 3: because they're older now, and so a lot of older men,

1483
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: as they get older, they realized that they need deeper

1484
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 3: relationships with other men. Some men do, and in order

1485
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: to have these relationships, you can't have these old fuck

1486
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 3: ass niggas around because you're like, I want to I

1487
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: got kids, I got a wife, I got a family. Like,

1488
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I got a heart, and I'm

1489
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 3: not trying to be cool no more. I like almost

1490
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 3: like I done got out of the cool game. I'm

1491
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 3: not trying to get on these bitches. So you know,

1492
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: I just tied me to calm down. And then all

1493
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you see the softness in them and

1494
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 3: the humanity in them come out. They have daughters, you know,

1495
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 3: and and all of a sudden they start looking at

1496
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 3: their nieces and sisters and shit differently. And then a

1497
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 3: lot of times that shit changes. But it's one of

1498
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 3: those things where for a lot of people, they feel

1499
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: like it's young but you know, it's almost like I

1500
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: got to be in the cool kids club versus being

1501
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 3: an outcast, because nobody wants to be on the outside

1502
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 3: of their social class or their social group. And if

1503
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 3: you are, people feel like that's a death sentence, but

1504
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's how you feel about it. Because

1505
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 3: some people they go, well, I know me, I'm always different,

1506
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,799
Speaker 3: so I'm okay with not being part of the club

1507
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: but a click. But for some people, they can't function

1508
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 3: like that, so they do whatever everybody else is doing,

1509
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 3: even if it's to the detriment of other people.

1510
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of the lyrics on Father Tom

1511
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: kendrick album song egoistics zero fuck, zero giving fucks and

1512
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 2: to be specific, need assistance with the way I was

1513
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: brought up. What's the difference when your heart has made

1514
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: of stone and your mind has made of gold and

1515
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: your tongue has made of soword, But it may weaken

1516
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: your soul. My niggas ain't got no daddy, grow up

1517
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 2: overcompensate and learning shit about being a man and the

1518
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: disguises being gangster's that's to me like some guy that

1519
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 2: resonates with me all the time, because I'm like, yes,

1520
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: that's how it felt like, you.

1521
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

1522
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 2: Where it's just like all the shit we described as

1523
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: being a man is a lot of very a lot

1524
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: of it is very toxic shit, and it's not till

1525
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: we get older that we have an appreciation for the

1526
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 2: stuff that, at least for.

1527
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: A lot of us.

1528
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, I had a respect for it because my

1529
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: dad was in the house and I was watching him,

1530
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: and that was one of my heroes every day living

1531
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: there as opposed to like you know, doctor Huxtaboard, Michael

1532
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: Jordan or some shit. So for me, it was like,

1533
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 2: you know, being cool and is consistency, hard work, dedication,

1534
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: coming home every night, that kind of shit, you know

1535
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 2: what I mean. So it just had a different value system,

1536
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 2: and so.

1537
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: Being gangster and all that shit was more like.

1538
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: A costume that people had to put on to survive.

1539
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,879
Speaker 1: But it wasn't really like that's you deep.

1540
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: Down because it's like, you know, to me, I was like,

1541
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: those things can't build anything. Those things are what we

1542
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:47,520
Speaker 2: use to destroy, right, Violence is what we use to destroy. Misogyny, homophobia,

1543
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 2: that's what we use to destroy. Those aren't things we

1544
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: used to build or whatever. And if you build connections

1545
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: based off of that, you're gonna forever be trapped in

1546
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: like a level of immaturity because that's how you measure

1547
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 2: your friendships. Is who am I allowed to be fucked

1548
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 2: up towards Karen. You are the young Jeze of podcast

1549
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: ad libs. When Roger's reading the story, I'm just waiting

1550
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: to hear that.

1551
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: Oh No. Your overall commentary is.

1552
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: Such a great reflection on how I feel so many

1553
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: people black women in particular feel about issues that I

1554
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 2: personally don't feel like we see black women platform to

1555
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: speak on within our culture. The passion you both show

1556
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 2: for what you do and the world you live in

1557
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 2: is dope as fucking unfortunately uncommon as society that gives

1558
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: seems to think not giving a fuck or not trying

1559
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: it's cool for some stupid ass reason. I mean this

1560
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 2: wholeheartedly when I say this has been my favorite podcast

1561
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 2: since the first episode I listened to. I could go

1562
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: on and on, but as a listener and a fan,

1563
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: I just wanted to, as nor would say, give you

1564
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 2: to your flowers and say thank you. I do, however,

1565
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: need to extend the second thank you both to as

1566
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: a podcaster specifically. First of all, in your episode with

1567
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: the host of Four Colored Nerves, when Karen specifically said

1568
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: several things that stood out to me. First of all,

1569
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: is this something you really want to do? Is it's

1570
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: just your hobby. And also when she said she can

1571
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 2: tell it's worth her time because the ones that aren't

1572
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: serious episode every.

1573
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: Episode is we back. That episode completely.

1574
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: Changed the standard I set for myself as far as

1575
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: providing content consistently. Also seeing how you too engage the

1576
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 2: audience by reading emails, five star reviews, comments, and all

1577
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: the small things you've done to build a community around

1578
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: you do what you do have is extremely helpful. Even

1579
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: just seeing how many episodes you two have put out

1580
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 2: gives me inspiration because it's easy to feel like what

1581
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: you're doing isn't growing at the rate you expected.

1582
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 1: But when I look look and see y'all.

1583
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 2: Have twenty five hundred plus episodes and think at seventy

1584
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: or so episodes, I'm still learning how to execute everything

1585
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: I want done and building a foundation for what I

1586
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 2: want the podcast to be. Anyways, thanks you to for

1587
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 2: being mad Dope and providing quality content so consistently. You

1588
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: have got a forever fan and your boy ps. I

1589
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 2: dropped the two of you the link to my podcast

1590
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 2: if you.

1591
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: Were it would be pretty player if you.

1592
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,799
Speaker 2: Checked it out because y'all name Niggas is famous.

1593
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,520
Speaker 1: Me really though, and this podcast the Fts podcast.

1594
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 2: So yeah, I did add it to my Spotify. Definitely

1595
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: check it out. Thank you, and yeah, all that stuff

1596
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: you says true, Julie right saying, come on, Professor Karen,

1597
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 2: Episode twenty five thirty eight, Professa to my favorite for

1598
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: twoitous blacks. It's been a minute since I wrote, but

1599
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: I've been listening, learning and just generally getting more comfortable,

1600
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: stand quiet and trying to see and do life better.

1601
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: And speaking of doing life better, congratulations to you both

1602
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: on growing and glowing together. I sent the back of

1603
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 2: your head on game theory, Rod and it filled out

1604
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 2: quite nicely, so proud of you both. For Karen, I

1605
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: have one question.

1606
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: When will you give your seminar on the internet? Because

1607
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 1: you said a word in truth, you said so many words.

1608
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 2: You laid out the psychological perils of a medium that

1609
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: keeps the same survival energy of fight flight or freeze

1610
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 2: or the offended defending pretending strategies. When a human feels

1611
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: he or she is about to be a or shame,

1612
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 2: those are the energies and they simply get co opted

1613
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: to fit whatever agenda or form. So, just as you said, Karen,

1614
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: it may look different, but underneath it.

1615
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: All it's binary.

1616
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: If I'm not a victim, I'm a victim fear that

1617
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: leads anyone treading into miserable territory mostly oblivious, stuck repeating

1618
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: the same pattern bars. Yeah, Karen did say that. And

1619
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: the Internet is any of us, and it's America, and

1620
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: it's any world at war with itself inside or outside.

1621
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: The defects is just the same. You can't find peace

1622
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 2: when you're caught up in it. And the mind at peace,

1623
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: like a house or a place of work of peace,

1624
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 2: ain't nothing like it. So thanks, Karen, I appreciate how

1625
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: you all have help to show how much peace, fear

1626
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: and war costs because you out here doing some good

1627
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,879
Speaker 2: public service about how to balance our emotional bank account

1628
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 2: and be more secure having some savings. And for me

1629
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: and my house, I want to have all the peace

1630
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: funds I can to spend and enjoy life differently, as

1631
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: well as to keep me as sane as possible when

1632
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: some real, painful and unavoidable shit goes down, because trust

1633
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: Life Show will have enough of that without us having

1634
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: to add more pain to it.

1635
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, don't go looking for it. That's my biggest thing.

1636
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 3: Don't go looking for it. Trust if you live life

1637
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 3: long enough, the world in situations circumstances will come around

1638
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 3: and it'll whoop your ass enough on its own. You

1639
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: do not need to go and find it.

1640
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 2: It will find you also as a needed ps. I

1641
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: do not mean to suggest peaces passivity. That would be

1642
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 2: a painfully naive stance that doesn't recognize that when folks

1643
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: don't see us as equal and treat us accordingly, making

1644
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: life untenable, we gotta do what we must have ensured

1645
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,839
Speaker 2: that we are safe and can survive before.

1646
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: We can even thrive.

1647
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: To borrow from Martin Luther King, I'm talking about a

1648
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 2: positive peace that's possible because justice is present, and in

1649
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: my opinion, ain't nothing naive about trying to be just

1650
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: in any and every way we must in.

1651
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: Order to have positive peace. Yep, I agree completely bars Uh.

1652
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 2: The next one is from Carmen, who says, for some reason.

1653
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know why am I uh, why they're making it?

1654
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Oh because there's a picture on it. Okay, all right,

1655
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: Hi Riding and Karen, longtime listener, I found you during

1656
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: the twelve days.

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01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: Before I get into it, I want to congratulate Riding

1658
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: a recent success with game theory I love the Atlanta

1659
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: reviews and Karen's Mystery Science theaterre ass chuckles in the background.

1660
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 2: Hopefully I can make it to the next live show.

1661
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 2: Barring no supervariants, Well, let's keep our fingers crossed. In

1662
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: respond to the story about the home appraisal disparities, I

1663
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: wanted to share me and my husband's story. We closed

1664
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: on our home in December when we purchased from a

1665
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 2: biracial family. In the home buying process, your your being

1666
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 2: for a home is selected by the sellers, but it

1667
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: must be within or lower than the appraisal value of

1668
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: the home in order for the bank to honor the

1669
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 2: bid amount for your mortgage.

1670
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: We bid and won at four hundred and nine K.

1671
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: However, when the appraiser finally submitted the appraisal to our bank,

1672
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: he waited the average that he waited the age of

1673
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: the toilets would eventually need replacing more than the age

1674
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: of the roof recently restored, amongst a bunch of other

1675
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: frivolous things. He appraised the value of the house at

1676
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 2: three hundred and eight eighty K, far lower than houses

1677
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: with similar square footage and specs, and also in a

1678
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: desiral location. This meant we had to quickly go into

1679
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 2: another round of negotiations, where we had to decide to

1680
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: make up the costs with our new bid three hundred

1681
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: and ninety k with ten k out of pocket, or

1682
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: abandon the contract and start again after months of searching

1683
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: in a very hot market. We're also an NC. We

1684
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: wanted to appeal. We all if we wanted to appeal,

1685
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 2: we could only do that after the house was purchase.

1686
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes no sense.

1687
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 2: Ultimately we decide to continue with the purchase. But this

1688
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 2: story really resonated with me because we had toward so

1689
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: many houses with black owners. It makes me want to

1690
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: They sold for the amount they should have gotten had

1691
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: had they been white. Oh and their praiser, the sellers

1692
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 2: supported that he only spent seven minutes in the house.

1693
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: They had a ring camera. Thanks for the podcast. See ps.

1694
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: Here's a photo I took from the first live show

1695
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: in Charlotte. I think it was right before Rod's computer melted. Oh,

1696
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: thank you and wow. Yeah, man, we read articles, but

1697
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: that's why people go.

1698
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 3: They just staged their house.

1699
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: They was like, no, life is just such a fucking trick.

1700
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: Bad when you're black man, because you really don't know

1701
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: and this is the kind of thing that would bother you.

1702
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: If I was that family, that shit would bother me forever.

1703
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 2: Like did we are we one of these stories that

1704
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 2: you see on the news of black family dealt with

1705
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: some racism in their house. Wasn't sold for the right price,

1706
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 2: or it was our praiser just fucked up? Or was

1707
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 2: that house supposed to go but we lost out on

1708
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars or some shit because someone decided.

1709
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: To appreciate the roof differently than the toilet. So I

1710
01:24:59,520 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: don't know.

1711
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: James Wright saying, womb Cereal, Me and my wife are

1712
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: dying laughing to y'all womb Cereal commentary. We must admit

1713
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,799
Speaker 2: we are here for all the Genitalia meal cereal brands.

1714
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 2: Tory said she wouldn't mind some peepee puffs and some

1715
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 2: toasty testes.

1716
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 3: Come on, testes.

1717
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: I am here for honey bunches of booze and some

1718
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 2: cream oad glitters cleaner glitters. I'm more of a cheery

1719
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 2: hos man sugar cracks, all right.

1720
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 3: I like to snap crackle nut.

1721
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: There you go, Can you got one into yay?

1722
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: Part of the game, y'all we all make it jokes.

1723
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: Ohle nut, Let's see this one is from oh not

1724
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: for listening feedback. Oh someone sent us the donation The

1725
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 2: person made the first donation theme, so I send this

1726
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 2: one without doctor Umar's ad libs in it.

1727
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: Let's say gifts and donations, because they.

1728
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: Were like, since you're putting the show on YouTube, maybe

1729
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 2: it'll get flagged.

1730
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I don't think it will. I don't

1731
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: think his donations and gifts.

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Speaker 2: Thing is a copyrighted like like, I don't think we're

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01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: gonna get sued by the record because normally when they

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01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 2: what they it's not that they sue it.

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01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: What they do is they flag it. And then it's like,

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01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: if you play.

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01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 2: This in the Ukraine, they will not this segment will

1738
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 2: be muted out.

1739
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 1: And this has been with like Kendrick Omar's music and shit.

1740
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 2: So I don't think it'll be a problem.

1741
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: Jeff, but I'll keep it anyway just in case.

1742
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: Jeff says a step in the right direction to me,

1743
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 2: hi Rod and Karen Karen, as always, you two say

1744
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: such fantastic and motivating things on your show to have

1745
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: me nod in my head in agreement.

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01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: I just hold on.

1747
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was trying to make the window smaller, and

1748
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: it cut off the words just a love hear oh,

1749
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 2: I just love hearing positive truth about us as blacks

1750
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 2: and marginalized groups. And of course the last if you

1751
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: already didn't notice, I feel this is the Country Music

1752
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 2: Awards making sure they don't back stupid shit nor remain

1753
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: still type thoughts y'all.

1754
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 1: And it's an article this from Jeff and Japan.

1755
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: It's an article about Country Music Awards banning the Confederate flag,

1756
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 2: which probably go into the cookout.

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01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: So we'll cover that story at a different time.

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01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: Tiffany says, Hi karenon Rod, I don't want anything just

1759
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: catching up between the blackout, Tips and three g O.

1760
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: And I've heard y'all mentioned Turkey leg Hut quite a bit.

1761
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: As a Houstonian, I wanted to reach out and let

1762
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: y'all know whenever the two of you are able to

1763
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: make a trip down this way, please let your girl

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01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: know and I'll take care of the reservation fee.

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01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 1: Y'all. Just make sure y'all in your Sunday's best. Lol.

1766
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but.

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01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: Seriously, I'd love to take you guys there and recommend

1768
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 2: some other great spots y'all can try while visiting. The

1769
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: reservation fee only covers your food and drinks. It's not

1770
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: it's non refundable and can't go towards the tip. But

1771
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 2: trust uh and believe your order. Well, you'll order well

1772
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 2: over the map while you're there, y'all continue to be

1773
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: safe to take care of each other. Below is a

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01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: pick of occasion bowl that I had the last time

1775
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: I was there, and it is good And I'm sure

1776
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 2: everybody want to see a picture of this, because I

1777
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 2: definitely want.

1778
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: You to see it.

1779
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 3: Yes, we're gonna get to chuck of their hoot one day. Oh,

1780
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 3: what's happening in that bowl? Hello, Mac Dressing, what's happening here?

1781
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: Oh? Look at them scrimps. Look how big they are?

1782
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, Oh my goodness, hello, as Cam Newton

1783
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: will say hello. Well, I'll move this to the personal

1784
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 2: emails to take you up on this, zen Zi writes

1785
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: in America, Please get it together, girl.

1786
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: I say this every day I wake up, Dear Rod

1787
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: of Karen.

1788
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: I've been meaning to write in for a while now,

1789
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: but life keeps getting in the way. And then by

1790
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: the time I look up, it's seeming like one hundred

1791
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 2: world and the events have happened again, and I don't

1792
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 2: know what to say. First of all, I want to

1793
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 2: say a huge congrats to Ride on the tests.

1794
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Of game Theory. I felt so privileged to watch your.

1795
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Journey through that amazing experience, and I want to thank

1796
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 2: you for carrying us along. It was so much fun

1797
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,879
Speaker 2: to hear about all hear about it from your perspective,

1798
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 2: and now I have some insider knowledge and about the

1799
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: TV world and will make me pause before delivering the

1800
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 2: harsh critique of a show in the future. The show

1801
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 2: itself was awesome and watching, even though I didn't get

1802
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 2: many other references because I don't follow America sports, the

1803
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 2: humor as universal. Thank you, thank you, and yeah, yeah

1804
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 2: that I mean, I'm just glad. I already had like

1805
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: a very forgiving attitude about TV, because.

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01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: Man, it's hard, Yes it is. It's hard to make

1807
01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: good TV.

1808
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 2: And I think every everyone sits at home, they think

1809
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: they got it all fucking figured out, they got the

1810
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: best idea, they would just write it this way and

1811
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,480
Speaker 2: all this shit, and then all these people start being involved.

1812
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: You got upper management rouvals, you got motherfuckers just disagreeing

1813
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: just the same way you disagree with every job and

1814
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 2: then you got you know, creative artistic spaces. People got

1815
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: are sensitive, they got feelings, time constraints.

1816
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 3: Man, it's hard lines being changed.

1817
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard.

1818
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 2: However, one thing that we all follow around the world

1819
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 2: is American politics. And when I tell you, the things

1820
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 2: happening in the US have real world consequences on the

1821
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 2: mental health of people living continents away, I'm not kidding.

1822
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 2: It breaks my heart to see people in the country

1823
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 2: like America taking their right to vote and the power

1824
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 2: that goes with it for granted. In Nigeria, we have

1825
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: an election coming up and all the candidates up for

1826
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 2: the offices at the national state levels are people who

1827
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 2: have been in power in this country for the.

1828
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: Last several decades.

1829
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 2: They keep passing our country around and among themselves, and

1830
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 2: our votes mean nothing because our elections mean nothing. All

1831
01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: we can do is watch helplessly. Is they still are

1832
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: and dance on our grades. Right now, anyone with the

1833
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: means too is fleeing the country because we don't believe

1834
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: there will even be a country in a year's time.

1835
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,799
Speaker 1: But most of us are stuck here with no choice.

1836
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 2: So when I see Americans saying they won't vote because

1837
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 2: they haven't been given one specific thing they want, even

1838
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: though voting means they will get closer to it. I

1839
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: can't help but feel a complete sense of hopelessness or

1840
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 2: the future of the world. Yet we are extremely privileged,

1841
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: I will say, and I'm trying to be more careful

1842
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,639
Speaker 2: about this, but it's just it's hard. But the people

1843
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 2: were talking about I'm not sure how many of them

1844
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: there are, but they're so loud and they're so.

1845
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know that.

1846
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 2: They represent the majority or anything, but it's enough of

1847
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: a contingent that I don't fuck with them. And I'm

1848
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 2: not gonna do the polite thing that all these fucking

1849
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 2: spineless motherfuckers out here always like.

1850
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,799
Speaker 1: I mean, just don't talk about them. They don't matter anyway.

1851
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna talk about the ass because I guess

1852
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 2: you can make the same argument for people that vote Republican.

1853
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 2: To be honest, Hey, look, they don't tell why we

1854
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 2: got to talk about them.

1855
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: Just go vote and don't worry about it.

1856
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about them because I think they're fundamentally wrong,

1857
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 2: and I think the people that the second backing them

1858
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 2: up are the people that sit there and don't do

1859
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: nothing but claim to be against.

1860
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Those people, You're just as useless.

1861
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 2: There are so many problems in the world, but knowing

1862
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 2: that you can vote and it will make a difference

1863
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 2: as a privilege I have never known in my entire

1864
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: adult life, because since I've been old enough to vote,

1865
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: we've either had a military dictator or a former dictator

1866
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 2: masquerading as a democratic leader through a reg election. Each

1867
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 2: one is worse than the previous one, and they are

1868
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 2: relentless in their greed. Americans, you don't know how good

1869
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: you have it. A lot of these motherfuckers want a

1870
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 2: dictator as long as it's Trump. I'm sorry for randing,

1871
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: but it's something that weighs on my mind. Anytime I

1872
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: see someone talk about witholding their vote and anger and

1873
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 2: frustration I hear it in y'all's voices makes me just

1874
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 2: anger and frustrated too. I can't even go into politics

1875
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 2: around the very weird going culture in the US and

1876
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: how harmful it is, because that would make this email

1877
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 2: ten times longer. I have friends and family in the US,

1878
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: and I get so scared when I think about the

1879
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 2: craziness going on there right now. I hope people on

1880
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 2: the left start to see the Republicans will simply not

1881
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 2: give up, and the only way to make the country better.

1882
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: Is to vote for people that will listen when you

1883
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: cry out right.

1884
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 2: If there's one thing we all know is that the

1885
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 2: Republicans will watch while children are murdered as long as

1886
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: they get to keep power and move even one inch

1887
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 2: closer to their racist nirvana. You guys feel like my

1888
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 2: cousin's from far away, so I worry about you as well,

1889
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: and I hope more people start thinking like you so

1890
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 2: I can at least have some peace of mind.

1891
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: I think of America. Well, the good news for us

1892
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 1: is we probably won't get shot because we won't do much.

1893
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it might have it no way.

1894
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 3: The shoes is going out, but I don't know, but

1895
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 3: it'll be Rendo likes. I'm about got to kick in

1896
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:56,520
Speaker 3: the door wave into.

1897
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: If they're not just shooting through apartment comple for no reason,

1898
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 2: we'll probably be all right.

1899
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1900
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for everything you do to keep

1901
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 2: us laughing as mad World, and all the coronavirus information

1902
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: you keep sharing, because that has helped a lot with

1903
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: my anxiety through the pandemic.

1904
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: I pray more, many more good.

1905
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 2: Things coming your way and I look forward to celebrating

1906
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 2: you in the future.

1907
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: Love and like Zenz, Thank you zen Z.

1908
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, international podcasts emails. Speaking of international podcast emails, where

1909
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: we had Japan.

1910
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: So far we had Nigeria, I believe she just said.

1911
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: And Canada is in the house.

1912
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh Canada feedback disagreements on controversial topics, Hey Rod, and

1913
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 2: Canada is from a meal. I have heard your you

1914
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 2: push back on two occasions, and the past two feedback

1915
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 2: shows the fans that have expressed opinions that were in

1916
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 2: opposition to your While I'm passionate force for you displayed

1917
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 2: a considerable measure of empathy and respectfulness. I applaud your approach,

1918
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: which serves as an invitation to me to present an

1919
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 2: opinion that might prove anathomic to your very sense of self,

1920
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 2: in a pinion that might undercut everything you considered to

1921
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 2: prove once humanity hit me out, and I employ you

1922
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 2: to not judge me or for frightly accuse me of

1923
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 2: both sizesm here goes.

1924
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay, would you.

1925
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 2: Allow yourself to consider the possibility that you could be

1926
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 2: wrong about sugar grits.

1927
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 1: Immediately?

1928
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 2: Admittedly I've never had grits, sugar savory or otherwise, but

1929
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 2: that won't stop me from speaking as an authority on it.

1930
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. I actually wrote up here to defend

1931
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: Arbist seriously though. I love this least episode as usual, but.

1932
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 2: Haven't send any feedback in a while, and I don't

1933
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: have anything specific to comment on, so I decided to

1934
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 2: write some dumb shit. But dumb shit counts feedback, doesn't

1935
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 2: it It does? I mean, you cracked caring up she did.

1936
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: I didn't find even a word of it funny. This

1937
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 2: off erabor mean and Karen laugh.

1938
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: That's worth something. Uh nah, But you know, honestly.

1939
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 4: Uh, I was a little worried because one of the

1940
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 4: people that wrote up here that you know, it was

1941
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 4: after we talked about wanted the Sykes, and this person

1942
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 4: wrote up here and was like, fuck everything y'all just

1943
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 4: said about empathy and the fact that this woman had trauma.

1944
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm mad and her trauma.

1945
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: Don't count and she's a coon and uh, you know,

1946
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 2: Kendrick lamar Is is uh, you know whatever, and and.

1947
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: I it was annoying because.

1948
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 2: We had specifically stated we're not that show, and we

1949
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 2: do so much to not be the show that just

1950
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 2: goes celebrity X is a trash person.

1951
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: We hate them and we're just gonna only say bad things.

1952
01:36:58,720 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 3: Or we're not that show.

1953
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: I don't agree with this person.

1954
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 2: So this person who I've never had a problem with,

1955
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 2: who seemed to be a righteous person up until this moment,

1956
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: is now a coon because the Internet told me that

1957
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 2: the only trauma that matters is the trauma.

1958
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: I experience when I watched Will Smith slap Chris Rock.

1959
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 2: The trauma I experience from Chris Rock's joke is the

1960
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 2: only trauma that can matter in this situation, and everyone

1961
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 2: else has to take a back seat. And so we

1962
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 2: do so much to not do that kind of snap

1963
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: judgment to me, low quality show. That's a low quality show.

1964
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 2: To me, people that do that are not very thoughtful,

1965
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 2: they're not very nuanced, and they're not people I would

1966
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 2: listen to right that do that. So to have somebody

1967
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 2: right up here, it's like, did you even listen to

1968
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 2: the show?

1969
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: Did you just want to write in because you saw

1970
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: the headline or something You've ben arguing people don't.

1971
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: But I went out of my way multiple times to

1972
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 2: be like, I'm not calling you out your name, I'm

1973
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 2: not saying you can't have these opinions.

1974
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm saying we're not the show for it.

1975
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 2: Here's why I disagree with you and why I find ultimately.

1976
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 1: This shit to be unproductive.

1977
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 2: And so behind the scenes that person left another comment.

1978
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 2: I just didn't read it on the show, but it

1979
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 2: was like some I'm taking my ball and going home shit,

1980
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 2: which is obviously designed to like try to hurt my feelings.

1981
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 2: Like one thing, I don't never write in, but honestly,

1982
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 2: if you write in thoughtlessly like that and you really

1983
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 2: disregard our opinions that don't really vibe with what we're talking

1984
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 2: about anyway. It's not like I'm sitting around like, god man,

1985
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna really miss those comments, you know what I'm saying.

1986
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 2: It was just one of those moments where it's like

1987
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 2: if I'm not allowed to disagree, if I'm not allowed

1988
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 2: to passionately say without calling you out your name, without

1989
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 2: calling you know.

1990
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not listen to you, motherfucker.

1991
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 2: Like I didn't do none of that shit just on

1992
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 2: some like I don't agree with you. I cussed all

1993
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 2: the time in all these episodes, So I'm not gonna.

1994
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: Like even with me cussing.

1995
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna act like or you was cussing, nigga,

1996
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 2: I was cussing this whole episode the.

1997
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: Whole time too, So let's not even try to do that.

1998
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 3: It's explicit for a reason.

1999
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you can't handle the fact that you

2000
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 2: wrote up something to say you low.

2001
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: Key disagree and we said yeah, and we still we

2002
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: heard what you said. I disagree with what you're saying.

2003
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 2: If we can't move on, what's the point Cause, like,

2004
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 2: I do my best to not make the show. I

2005
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 2: for listen to these other podcasts, someone calls and disagrees

2006
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 2: and it is you, raggedy motherfucker, how dare you?

2007
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,719
Speaker 1: And I don't want to do that show.

2008
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a place where it because I

2009
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 2: listened to so many podcasts.

2010
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 1: I would like it to be a place where.

2011
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: You can listen, you don't have to agree, and you

2012
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 2: can listen to the next episode, and then you can

2013
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 2: write up here and say here's why I disagree. And

2014
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my best to at least consider it.

2015
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna I'm never gonna pander and I'm

2016
01:39:58,800 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 2: never gonna lie to you.

2017
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: And be like yup. Well you set me straight.

2018
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 2: And I'm also not gonna be scared and be like

2019
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to say my opinion because the person disagreed,

2020
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: like this is.

2021
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: My opinion, I ain't gave it.

2022
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 2: Twenty five hundred episodes so far, that's what it's gonna

2023
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 2: continue to be. And so I appreciate you right now

2024
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 2: because to me, when people do this like harm, I'll

2025
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 2: never write in It's always just like they want me

2026
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 2: to second guess myself like was I complain, Well, did

2027
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 2: I call them.

2028
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: A raggedy stupid bitch and say I hate gay people?

2029
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: And I didn't do any of that. So it is I.

2030
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 2: Appreciate you right now cause cause I think people hear

2031
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 2: the disagreement.

2032
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: They hear that we're passionate about shit.

2033
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: Obviously we talked about show we're passionate, right, but but

2034
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 2: hopefully they can hear that, like there's still a level

2035
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 2: of like I'm not going for the juggler. You know,

2036
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm not Monique bringing up your daughter sexual assault so

2037
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 2: I can win a fight, right like, like I'm trying

2038
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 2: to keep it Jermaine to what was discussed and tell

2039
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 2: you why I feel so passionately the other way, but

2040
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 2: still invite you to come back and listen to the

2041
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: next episode and right in again. But you know, not

2042
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 2: everyone once again. Like I said, I don't count friendships

2043
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 2: till we have a disagreement. And it's specifically because of that,

2044
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 2: you know. And it's one of the reasons as much

2045
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 2: as I love our community, I try not to get

2046
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 2: to attached to specific fans because your one opinion these

2047
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 2: days from somebody just being like, fuck you, fuck everything

2048
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,679
Speaker 2: you ever done, sir, I'm never gonna talk to you again.

2049
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: And I would never do that to a friend.

2050
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 2: And that's the reason I have to be aware of

2051
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 2: when we talk about celebrity culture parasocial relationships. This is

2052
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 2: one of the reasons I'm always hedging my conversations about

2053
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 2: celebrities and stuff into being like, I don't know them.

2054
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm not really mad at them. I don't I can't possibly,

2055
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 2: I can't hold them accountable because I have to understand,

2056
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 2: I want to understand my relationship to this is still entertainment,

2057
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 2: This is still a stranger and advice versus because and

2058
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 2: when I talk about our fans and stuff, I try

2059
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 2: to keep it fans.

2060
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: And not be like my family.

2061
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because once you start having

2062
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 2: those type of parasocial relationships, at any point, one of y'all.

2063
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: Could just decide we ain't it and that should be your.

2064
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 2: Right as a fan to not fuck with us, right,

2065
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 2: And it shouldn't matter if I'm hurt or not hurt

2066
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 2: by it, because you don't care if Tom Warner is

2067
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 2: hurt when you.

2068
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 1: Cut off the table service.

2069
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 3: You don't.

2070
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:30,799
Speaker 1: At some point, we're providing a service.

2071
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 2: And if we can't do that for you, there's a

2072
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 2: bunch of other podcasts that can.

2073
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: But I will never not be me.

2074
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 2: I'll never not be myself, and I'm gonna do my

2075
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 2: best to not be disrespectful to people even when we

2076
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 2: disagree because of shit like this, because I'm hoping at

2077
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 2: the end of the day to still reach that person.

2078
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 2: I hoping they still do. Here's something I said they

2079
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 2: got through to be like, Oh, I see why they

2080
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 2: had that perspective, because I keep honoring other people's perspectives

2081
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 2: until you end up not having one of your own.

2082
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 2: But there's only so much you can do. And I

2083
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 2: and yeah, so I'm glad you said that.

2084
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 1: Honestly, thank you. Uh.

2085
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 2: Something struck me while I was watching Don crack up

2086
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 2: during the balls. These sports introserve your interactions with Jordan

2087
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 2: Temple earlier this week, You too are cool, Nigga magnet,

2088
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 2: it's magnets. Something about your interactions with Gas brings out

2089
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 2: the best of them. Never changed, Get yourself some sugar

2090
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 2: grits at Arby's and never.

2091
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: Change, you know. You know what's funny? Note straight straight up? Well,

2092
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: we had Jordan's on.

2093
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 2: There was a part of the beginning, uh, because Jordan's

2094
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 2: like a what do you call it?

2095
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 1: Not a straight man? What's the word he has a

2096
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: He's like a he doesn't he has like a dad pant.

2097
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 2: He does dad pant delivery a lot of times of

2098
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 2: the stand up and stuff, very straightforward, and you know,

2099
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 2: he talks about being depressed and and you know, he's

2100
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 2: a thoughtful dude and as you.

2101
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 1: Can tell from Atlanta writers Room, a little bit dark,

2102
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: you know. And so.

2103
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 2: There's a part of again in an interview where I'm like,

2104
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 2: I have to introduce you to our audience, into me

2105
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 2: and Karen, because we don't we might not know who

2106
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 2: you are yet. And even if I've done research and

2107
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 2: listen to all these podcasts, you've been on, because I

2108
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 2: did do that research, and I'm still not going to

2109
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 2: act like, well, since I know, fuck it, because you don't.

2110
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what you know about us, and you

2111
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:33,720
Speaker 2: don't know what we know about you. Correct and the

2112
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 2: audience might there might be new people coming to our

2113
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 2: show because you were on, and there might be new

2114
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 2: people coming and check you out because.

2115
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 1: You were on our show.

2116
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 2: Point being at the beginning, there's this point where it's

2117
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 2: kind of awkward. It's almost like he's like, oh, another

2118
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 2: one of these, like talk about your credits, talk about

2119
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 2: how you got started, talk about this and you I

2120
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 2: could kind of feel him like almost pulling away, like

2121
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,919
Speaker 2: I guess I'll ask these boring answer these born asked questions.

2122
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: And I had to be like, yeah, nigga, you do

2123
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: need to do that, like you know what.

2124
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Not in the mean way, but like, hey, hey, man,

2125
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: like this, we don't know these stories and maybe you've

2126
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 2: told them a thousand times, but it's not like everyone

2127
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: knows the story. And in order to build up to

2128
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 2: where we're talking about Abbod, Elementary Atlanta, the Marvelous Miness Mazel,

2129
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 2: it's not gonna hit the same if we don't talk

2130
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 2: about you being a nigga from Queens that came from

2131
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 2: the projects that you know what I'm saying, started doing

2132
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 2: improv and all that shit because I'm building a narrative

2133
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 2: here and I have so much confidence and faith in

2134
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 2: me and Karen that it was.

2135
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: So beautiful how he opened up. And by the end of.

2136
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 2: The show, it's like you can hear him cracking up

2137
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 2: despite himself. It's kind of like when people laugh at

2138
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 2: our corny pun runs and shit, and it's like, this

2139
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:56,759
Speaker 2: is very.

2140
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 1: Corny that this pun run that we're doing.

2141
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 2: There's something about the allowance of joy and freedom in

2142
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 2: the corny puns that people can't help themselves, like.

2143
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 3: When people get it's contagious.

2144
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 1: It's like when people.

2145
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 2: Get mad at you for laughing at a pun you did,

2146
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, because it's something in you went.

2147
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I'm a funny bitch.

2148
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 1: This is stupid.

2149
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 2: You know, something in you went, this is stupid, and

2150
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 2: then you started laughing in spite of yourself, and now

2151
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 2: you're having a good time. And so that was especially

2152
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 2: when we're meeting these people for the first time.

2153
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 1: That was fun.

2154
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 2: And next time, if he comes back, then we can

2155
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 2: do some like bullshit. We can talk about I don't know,

2156
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 2: whatever the current gun crisis is or whatever, and you

2157
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 2: can be that and I think, you know so yeah,

2158
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 2: I you know, And I try to be similar with

2159
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 2: everyone that comes on the show, because in order for

2160
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,799
Speaker 2: this to really work, it has to be a space

2161
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 2: of like openness, honesty, but ultimately silliness and fun. And

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Speaker 2: so when he was well, he was cracking up by

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Speaker 2: the end, I said, Yeah, when we have him back

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Speaker 2: and we do guest to raise sitting fucking with black

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Speaker 2: people and stuff, I bet he'll really like.

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Speaker 3: It that that's gonna be fun. And the thing is,

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Speaker 3: I know, you know, like you say, people to get

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Speaker 3: interviewed all the time. I could see you feel like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, but it's every time you get an audience,

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Speaker 3: it's a brand new audience. But we're not like those

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Speaker 3: typical shows. We'll move on to other things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, listen, if you never heard our

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Speaker 2: show before, you just know some black people and ship.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they're coming in with preconceived notions too. Everyone's right,

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Speaker 2: you know, they probably thought it was gonna you know,

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Speaker 2: be up in him.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like with a with a bitch,

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Speaker 1: We sucking yo dick, right, Like, we.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that show, and it might take them a

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Speaker 2: while to fill that out because you want to feel

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Speaker 2: comfortable by the end. This niggas talking about reading Bell

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Speaker 2: Hooks and Ship and he knew because and he didn't

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Speaker 2: have to like explain it, cause.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, nigga, I know, we know who bell

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Speaker 1: Hooks is. We talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So so like there's another show where you bring that up.

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Speaker 1: Well with Belle Hooks not just playing that, but she

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Speaker 1: wanted them, she wanted them feminisms like oh yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: so anyway, it was cool and thanks for listening. Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all. We'll be back tomorrow and later in the week.

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Speaker 2: We have guests, uh Tuesday and Wednesday for sure, and

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Speaker 2: appreciate y'all support and listening and the people that leave

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Speaker 2: feedback and the people that listen to the feedback episodes

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Speaker 2: y'all our favorite people. And uh, you know, I'll try

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Speaker 2: to intersperse some ads in the middle of Pregnant Pausies

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Speaker 2: to throw throw everybody off and throw everybody off, all right,

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Speaker 2: but y'all, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Let us know for real though, if you're having that

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Speaker 3: problem with the.

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Speaker 2: Episode, So episode skipping, Yeah, because the more details I

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Speaker 2: can get, the better the stuff they were asking for

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Speaker 2: with stuff.

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Speaker 1: Like what ad was it? Whatever? You know, like are

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Speaker 1: you free or are you premium on Spotify? Stuff like that, right,

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Speaker 1: and so you.

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Speaker 3: Know, let us know those things so we can give

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Speaker 3: it to them because we want the experience to be

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Speaker 3: best for you. Also, don't forget to like the YouTube page,

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Speaker 3: don't forget to subscribe and click on any of the

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Speaker 3: social media that we're on. We're everywhere, so I appreciate

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Speaker 3: that and shout out to the people that are premium.

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Speaker 3: For those of you that might not know, we have

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Speaker 3: two levels of premium. We have the fifteen dollars a

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Speaker 3: month when you get access to everything and you had

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Speaker 3: we have five dollars a month, and for five dollars

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Speaker 3: a month, you get four episodes monthly.

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Speaker 1: O caring, I'm just trying to fly too close to

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Speaker 1: the sun.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I was trying close.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, no, I mean go ahead, Okay, So

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Speaker 2: I was trying.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I was rooting for you, room for you just

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Speaker 1: started doubting yourself.

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Speaker 3: I did that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do nothing. You started doubting yourself when you

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Speaker 1: already had it.

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Speaker 3: I said, look at your fucked up.

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Speaker 2: No, I wasn't looking at you because you fucked up.

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Speaker 2: You get an extra episode every week. Yes, and the

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Speaker 2: reason I looked at you is because I was waiting

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Speaker 2: for you to say. This was through anchor so and

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Speaker 2: through Spotify. You can get the five dollars a week

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Speaker 2: just a tip and you can sign up through Spotify.

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Speaker 2: Send our description on our on our page on Spotify,

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Speaker 2: put the blackout Tips in and the description is how

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Speaker 2: you can sign up and you get an extra episode

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Speaker 2: a week. I think we got about sixty people doing

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Speaker 2: that now, like you know that get the extra episode

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Speaker 2: per week and it's five dollars a month.

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Speaker 1: And it varies.

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Speaker 2: It could be Less Mack and Good. It can be

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Speaker 2: Ballsy SPORTUS for the pregame. It can be US four

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Speaker 2: Move Review, it can be the nerd Off, it can

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Speaker 2: be whatever. We just give you one a week full premium.

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Speaker 2: People that go to the blackout tips dot com slash

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Speaker 2: premium and sign up for fifteen dollars a month or

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Speaker 2: one hundred fifty dollars a year, I think because the

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Speaker 2: sale is over, those.

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Speaker 1: People get like a bunch of shit.

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Speaker 2: Every you get at least like two or three premium

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Speaker 2: episodes a week.

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Speaker 1: That's how hard we work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd be working real hard. And for those of

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Speaker 3: you that do the anchor through Spotify, once you sign up,

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Speaker 3: you can take that link and you can use it

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Speaker 3: outside of that format, so don't think you are limited

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Speaker 3: to Spotify whenever you do it.

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Speaker 2: So all right, y'all, that's it, Thanks for listening. Until

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Speaker 2: next time.

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Speaker 1: I love you, I love you too,