WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2020 NFL MegaPod Week 7 Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Check it down Man, No down Man, Thursday morning, October

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's defeating the book podcast a megapho for week

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<v Speaker 1>seven Live from the D, It's kill Alexander. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>our last appearance at the D Mikey? Yeah, it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of better sweet after it all the time we've spent

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<v Speaker 1>in this cathedral of our cand was your favorite memory

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<v Speaker 1>from it? Well? I like Brent Mussberger talking about what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the nineteen seventies. I think people really enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was only one person complaining, and he

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be on the pod as well. But Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your issue with that? I had no problem

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<v Speaker 1>with it. It just when Mikey is so sycophantic. It

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of a certain situation in the news all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. But the sycophantic questions were just a little

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<v Speaker 1>too much for me, you know, you know, sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the stat I mean, I love it too.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the reminiscing too. It's just when when the

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<v Speaker 1>questions are asked in such a sycophantic nature, like saying

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<v Speaker 1>sycophantic yes, you should have challenged him like you did

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Bob last year. You should win right after Brent.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna be in? Are you gonna be polite

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<v Speaker 1>to our guest today? By the way, it's Mike Palm,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the the vice president of operations here at

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<v Speaker 1>Circus Sports Circle opening in five days. Are you under

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<v Speaker 1>like lots of pressure? Uh? Well, there's so many moving parts.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it just there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>still need to be done, Gail. Both from a construction side,

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<v Speaker 1>from a technology side, from a staff training side, we're

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<v Speaker 1>actually having our first play day today, um, where people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna come in and we're gonna put free slot

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<v Speaker 1>play on a card. We're gonna give them fake money

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<v Speaker 1>and fake chips and actually give them an experience. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna eat in one of the restaurants. We had hoped

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<v Speaker 1>the pool would be ready for today and won't be

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<v Speaker 1>ready till the second play day Sunday, so their trial

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<v Speaker 1>run will be right in the middle of an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday as well as uh Game five of the World Series,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we'll we'll get to really test We'll test

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<v Speaker 1>the pool, and we'll test the sports book screens and

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<v Speaker 1>all that uh to so, but we'll learn more as

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<v Speaker 1>as as the Great Michael Lombardi says, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>know what you don't know, and so today is is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about trying to find out what we don't know. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question about this the question the answer that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know. When you say black tie for your

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<v Speaker 1>opening Tuesday night, does that mean a bow tie or

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean Hey, the tie has just gotta be black.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that you must wear a black tuxedo with

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<v Speaker 1>a black bow tie. I the bow tie is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen for me, man, They're gonna send me away.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to get a tuxedo. Gil That's what Black

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<v Speaker 1>Time Fashion Silast Debrah Song says. F them old schoolers,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way to go. Well, actually, what yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we bring in our guest Drew Dinsick for God's sake?

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<v Speaker 1>So we've gone five minutes in ladies and gentlemen, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to have it on the show. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the co host. I don't know if he's a

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<v Speaker 1>lead host of co host, I don't know how we

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<v Speaker 1>say it with his buddy, Andy Molitor of the Deep

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<v Speaker 1>Dive podcast awesome podcast on not only football, but tennis

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<v Speaker 1>and the NBA. Those are his go to sports. Drew dinsick, everybody, Drew,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. You were about to say that bow tie

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<v Speaker 1>not necessary? Is that what I was about to hear? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do a black tie in every year and I've

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<v Speaker 1>worn like, if you have a nice black as long

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<v Speaker 1>as it's like a nice black you know, necktie that

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<v Speaker 1>that and with as long as it's with the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of a tuxedo get up. That's totally kosher in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the black tie world, and in l A at least,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not old Maybe Vegas is a little more classic,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know that's that's pretty pretty kosher around my

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<v Speaker 1>part of town. Smart man right there. Well, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to understand Derek grew up in Gross Point, Michigan, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit more of an old money field

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<v Speaker 1>of black tie and what that means. So, uh, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to skip over. Todd Todd Wishne from his mother's attic.

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<v Speaker 1>His mother is Cork Attic in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. How you doing, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. You know, it's just great. Who is

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<v Speaker 1>this guy? Who is this guy? All of a suddle day?

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with you? It's been three weeks since I

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<v Speaker 1>played tennis because of this damn hamstring injury and it's

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<v Speaker 1>getting me really upset, and I'm I'm missing weather day

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<v Speaker 1>after weather, day beautiful beautiful tennis. Weather has been like

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<v Speaker 1>two rainy days and twenty beautiful days, and that's eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>days of tennis I missed. If you're disappointing, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that description is sufficient? All right? Uh, here's what we

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<v Speaker 1>do for those turning into this podcast for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>We go through our three best bets. Actually we go

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<v Speaker 1>the Thursday night game first. If it happens to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of our best bets, then so be it, um

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<v Speaker 1>and then each person in the end we'll have three

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<v Speaker 1>best bets. We'll do the teaser of the week for everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're still killing the teasers, right, You guys are one.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all five and one, five and one. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know the records too? In the regular record,

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<v Speaker 1>please the courts stenographer Todd Wishnett, please tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>our as sports stenographer I would like to say. Gilly

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<v Speaker 1>Ice has made a huge comeback to get the seven

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<v Speaker 1>ten and one A beautiful week last week with his

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins, which we may or may not saying later

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay as well, and only went down with Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>minus one. By the way, we all had Carolina. Every

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<v Speaker 1>time we all have somebody will ever wins. You just

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<v Speaker 1>fade that right away. Mikey had a poor week. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't usually have too many poor weeks. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>one and two, not very good with that Houston Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably kicking himself right now because of Romeo Cornell

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<v Speaker 1>and two point conversions and not two point conversions and

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of shenanigans. And then I had a bad

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<v Speaker 1>week as well, a one and two with Carolina. My

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<v Speaker 1>over in the Steelers game didn't get there, But then

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<v Speaker 1>I did have Arizona. So seven eleven for me, Mikey

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<v Speaker 1>ten seven and one in you guilt tes seven ten

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<v Speaker 1>and one, Drew then at zero and zero with a

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<v Speaker 1>zero and zero's direct. So I'm a half game better

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<v Speaker 1>than Utah, is what I'm hearing. You're not now, You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're a yeah, a half game, that's correct, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I heard. Okay, uh, let us start with Drew for well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with Thursday night football tonight, Philadelphia four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half point favorites hosting the New York Giants. Not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly a barn Burner from a fans standpoint, but perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>some betting value. Drew was kind enough to come on

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<v Speaker 1>a numbers game at Visa earlier in the week. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I know what's coming here, and you've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of convinced me, Drew where you're very logical diet tribe

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<v Speaker 1>about this game. This is one of your best bets, right. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Philadelphia is the side here. Um. I got

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<v Speaker 1>in earlier at five and a half and was absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>agog when it went from six and a half to

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half on the news that Miles Standards

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<v Speaker 1>and Zach Ertz weren't going to be playing, which again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that anyone who watched the Philly Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>game knew. You know, those guys clearly went out and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't you know, tiki tack injuries. Those were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>real problems, and so the fact that you know they

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<v Speaker 1>get confirmed out and the line drifted, you know, moved

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<v Speaker 1>that much was shocking. Um got more down at three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, it's now back up to four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I realistically, Um, this is kind of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the only angles that I play when I played

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night football. Um, you have a rookie head coach

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe Judge. It is extremely difficult for coaches who

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<v Speaker 1>have not been in this situation before to realize how

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<v Speaker 1>much work they need to put in the week before

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can implement all of the wrinkles and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the nuance that you need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>game specific game plan in place for a Thursday night opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>And Doug Peterson has mastered this. He has done extremely

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<v Speaker 1>well on Thursday Night football the last handful of years,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is now coming to you to really to me,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he held Lane Johnson out of that

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore game, Uh, the fact that they held Sean Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>out of that Baltimore game reflected a little bit of gamesmanship, Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that this Giants game is a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>important in terms of our overall potential to make the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs this season than this Baltimore game, where we're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going to be you know, double digit underdogs. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>save up our bullets a little bit and be ready

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<v Speaker 1>for this Giants and take it to them. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think this sets up very well for the Eagles to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of right the ship, get right, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>and really set the stage for a run as I

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<v Speaker 1>personally think that they, you know, will win the NFC.

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<v Speaker 1>He's comfortably given all the injuries to the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>We calling it your number one, your number two, or

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<v Speaker 1>number three, best bet just for a bookkeeper, probably number three,

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<v Speaker 1>number three. It's my number three as well. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>number officially four and a half now four and a half, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's exactly what Drew said. Lane Johnson and

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<v Speaker 1>DeShawn Jackson mean more than Zach Ertz and Miles Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>Lane john there are Lane Johnson's stats. How often do

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<v Speaker 1>you hear about an offensive lineman in the NFL where

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles are just unbelievable, unbelievably better a t S

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<v Speaker 1>with him than without him? And DeShawn Jackson. I can

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<v Speaker 1>say this as a fan of the Washington football team.

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<v Speaker 1>We all we never really could figure out the chicken

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<v Speaker 1>and the egg when Kirk Cousins played for the for

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<v Speaker 1>the Skins. Was it DeShawn spreading the field that allowed

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<v Speaker 1>for Jordan Reed to have such success underneath for Cousins

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<v Speaker 1>or was Cousins, you know, the the impetus for all

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And I think, after all these years. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was DeShawn That's not crazy, that's really not

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't he doesn't. He you can't count on

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<v Speaker 1>him for a full season anymore. But when he is

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and he's on the field, he's a game changer. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very prepared for them to go over the top

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<v Speaker 1>to him early and often. This one really test trying

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<v Speaker 1>to take the top off the Giants defense. And realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants have only looked competent defensively when they've gone

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<v Speaker 1>up against teams that can't pass deep. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>had a decent performance against the Rams, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>mostly because the Rams were just trying this short, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>average depth of target stuff, and that's what that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that the Giants can reasonably cover in the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game. So if if you know, if we have

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<v Speaker 1>reasonably competent offensive line play tonight and Lane Jackson, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Lane Johnson being back is a huge part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Carson Wentz picks this team apart and really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, shows out tonight. I like it so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Mikey that I'm putting in my circum millions picks earlier

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<v Speaker 1>to include Philadelphia. How about that. Wait, is that your

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<v Speaker 1>three one or two gil three? Really? Yeah, that's strong,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know time is very important with COVID this year,

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<v Speaker 1>yourself into all five picks, forty eight hours of COVID

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<v Speaker 1>prayers is what I'm gonna be st what's your current

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<v Speaker 1>point standing right now in the circumanion? I am. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you again. I'll give you the exact trajectory week

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<v Speaker 1>by week one, three and one, two and three, two

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<v Speaker 1>and three, three and two, four and one, three and two.

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<v Speaker 1>So where was that? I see that the one person

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<v Speaker 1>has the top three spots. One guy has three entries,

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<v Speaker 1>is first, second and died for third. Amazing, it is amazing, amazing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he just hasn't been doing much variance in his picks.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if he gets all the way to the end,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be able to do all kinds of ship

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<v Speaker 1>and again, which is what which is what I planned

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<v Speaker 1>to do with my two entries. But you see how

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<v Speaker 1>that's going. But just to give you an idea, like

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<v Speaker 1>seven and three, I am in this this current quarterly,

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<v Speaker 1>I got no chance. I mean yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Well, the first week, a hundred ninety seven

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<v Speaker 1>people went five and oh and week five, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>first week of the quarter, like my record? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's pick number three for both. Do you Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>have any thoughts on tonight's game before we get off

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night? Not? Not really. You know, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>like this game. You know, the Giants, you know, Riverboat Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still I'm still upset about Riverboat Run. I had

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty nine and a half on the end game,

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<v Speaker 1>and as the Redskins are driving down, I'm thinking, is

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<v Speaker 1>Riverboat Ron gonna do something stupid and go for two here?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's in the back of my head all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down, but I'm like, well, they won't get it

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<v Speaker 1>in anyway, so I don't even have to worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets it in, gets it in. And then I see

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<v Speaker 1>them panning to him because I've got the I have

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<v Speaker 1>the eight box direct TV on, so I'm not listening,

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<v Speaker 1>but i can see they're looking at him, and I'm thinking, oh, no, please,

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<v Speaker 1>Riverboat please, no, no to please? Yeah. Yeah, Well, how

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<v Speaker 1>much let me ask you this, how much of that

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that his nickname is Riverboat Run, that

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<v Speaker 1>he felt the need to live up to it, like

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<v Speaker 1>if his name was tugboat Ron right like people might

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<v Speaker 1>not have done it, but Ron, Yeah, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been happy to rename him during the drive. I would

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<v Speaker 1>just Conservative Justice Amy Coney Ron, That's what I would

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<v Speaker 1>have called him, Mr Conservative. Not gambling at all, no gambling.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like Do you like my Merrick Garland come

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<v Speaker 1>back last week? Did you like that? That was? That? Was?

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<v Speaker 1>That was? I love? Mike going, Oh yes, Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so fantastic Notre Dame. We have such an incredible pride

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<v Speaker 1>from Notre Day. We're golden domers and we love it

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<v Speaker 1>and we love controlling the Supreme Court with seven Catholics.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you well, your buddy Raj Body had had to

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<v Speaker 1>put a little tweet out there about how we were

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<v Speaker 1>we were we were we were masking our anti feminist

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<v Speaker 1>feminism in and some pride of Notre Dame and Brent

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<v Speaker 1>and I rehearsed all of it, which is not true.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a prideful thing for Notre Dame, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what her politics are, and the mid fifties were indeed

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<v Speaker 1>a golden era. Okay, did you did you have anything

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday night football? I love the Eagles here, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do. But you know, Doug eep is so bad

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<v Speaker 1>with field goals. I mean, the guy is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. I wish this game was a three.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd lay three. I could have lud them in a

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<v Speaker 1>money line parley if I was going to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Giants are really bad. I think Danny

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<v Speaker 1>Dimes sucks. I mean people thought, oh oh they were

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<v Speaker 1>good against the Dallas defend. The Dallas defense is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst of all time. He wasn't great against him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they make bad quarterbacks look average. They had

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<v Speaker 1>so many chances to win that game. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he looked He's not good. He's not good at all. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I mean I don't know. The Giants still

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<v Speaker 1>were in a game against Washington. They only had a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred passing yards and they I mean, the Giants are

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<v Speaker 1>not good. The Eagles are the best team in the East. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna win the East. Uh. But it's the best

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<v Speaker 1>hotel downtown. It's different. Okay, these hotels I don't all

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<v Speaker 1>lose money. Okay, every team in the East has a

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<v Speaker 1>losing record. Todd Town, you came out here with zero energy,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't know you were joking. Uh. I'd like to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to not use the pick though on this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do like the Eagles. I love all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the best bets. By the way, Drew

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<v Speaker 1>not only with a deep dive podcast, but I sold

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<v Speaker 1>him short also stuff for Rotal World, writes for points

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<v Speaker 1>spread weekly at Visa for goodness sake, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge kit for Visa. I love it when he dissects

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<v Speaker 1>the quadrants of a tennis draw. That's the best bet.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you better not be joking, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>like the love it. Yeah, I love it, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking it's the way if you guys are betting this

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<v Speaker 1>in game tennis. I was watching the tennis yesterday with

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<v Speaker 1>with Draft Kings fan Duel and Bookmaker's lines up at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. Gil. It is unbelievable differences. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, somebody like you who loves the tennis, you

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<v Speaker 1>would feast. You would absolutely feast. I mean there, I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching that Zverev against um I forget who he

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<v Speaker 1>was going against, Vereev guy, and he was like, it

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<v Speaker 1>was ridiculous. I think Todd, well, I don't know all

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<v Speaker 1>the tennis names. I know Shapabalov, but uh, you got today.

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<v Speaker 1>It was ugly. Yeah, right, Simon took him down the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this very match was wild yesterday he be

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, big old Noman in the first set, then

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<v Speaker 1>dropped six three it looked like he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>lose the match, and then came back at one sixth three,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was that was a weird one. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you drew, if you're into it, and you bet, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at these lines, like at the exact same time, Fandel,

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Kings and Bookmaker at the same it's incredible. The

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<v Speaker 1>difference is incredible. Did you did you try? And is?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they don't spinning circle you to death with Vandel?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they don't. Fandel it's like a five seconds and

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<v Speaker 1>it has a countdown, so it's not like William Hill

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<v Speaker 1>where it just spins forever and you have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>when you're gonna get it. Fandel has like a counter

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<v Speaker 1>time down, so you know exactly when you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the DraftKings has a spinner, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>quick spinner. It's not like a spin for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your life and try to screw you cut type

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<v Speaker 1>of spinner. It's just a quick spinner. And then you're

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<v Speaker 1>in and then Bookmaker. You know Bookmaker, it's fast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw your buddy Crack wrote an article about the

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<v Speaker 1>new William Hill app in the spin to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read that article? Uh? No, but I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>about the fallout from it. But here's the thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually better to me because in the old app, the

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<v Speaker 1>original version, it would spin and you didn't know whether

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<v Speaker 1>it would get rejected or not when it went into

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<v Speaker 1>the spin mode, right, it may eventually approve it, or

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<v Speaker 1>it may reject it. You might have to wait ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seconds or two minutes. Not a good thing. This one.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as it spins, you know you're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>it in and you have to shut off your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>turn it back on and replace the bet. But at

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<v Speaker 1>least you know you're not getting it in before you

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<v Speaker 1>were caught and you couldn't cancel it either. Better better

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<v Speaker 1>to be horribly egregious than but but as a better

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and I'm betting in game on all this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know in soccer especially, and the lines moving, the

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<v Speaker 1>total is moving, the juice on it. At least I

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<v Speaker 1>know I know right away it's not getting in. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of waiting two minutes and by the time I get

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<v Speaker 1>it back in, it's moved fifteen cents. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's some of these two where you it spins

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<v Speaker 1>you and it accepts them, and you don't know it's

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<v Speaker 1>spinning and you don't know that it's accepted them. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the worst of all two or three tops. Anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another de incentivizes anyone who knows what they're doing from

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. That's right, well said, all right, Drew number

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<v Speaker 1>one for you this week? Man, Okay, I've gone I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone back and forth on what my favorite look of

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<v Speaker 1>the card is, and I've landed on an under in

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<v Speaker 1>today's NFL, my number one, number one edge on the

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<v Speaker 1>card and under in today's NFL. And it is in

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<v Speaker 1>division at least, and it is fifty six points, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot. Uh And it is the Seahawks in

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Cardinals under fifty six. There's a couple angles

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<v Speaker 1>of player number one after that Cardinals Dallas Cowboys game.

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<v Speaker 1>I realistically, you know, kind of going back through and

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out what happened there. Um. I made two adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cardinals. I adjusted their past defense up and

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<v Speaker 1>I adjusted their offense in total that was a very

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<v Speaker 1>very very misleading final score given that you know, three

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns were you know, eighty plus the yarders and are

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<v Speaker 1>not eight not all three were eighty yarders, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know they had three broken players. And I hang that

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<v Speaker 1>entirely on you know, poor execution by the Dallas defense,

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<v Speaker 1>not what you know, the scheme they came up with

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<v Speaker 1>for the Arizona Cardinals. This Arizona Cardinals offense is legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>a bottom five offense in the NFL. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>what Kyler Murray is doing in the passing game is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's not uh, you know, good enough

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<v Speaker 1>to go toe to toe with the Seahawks, even the

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks defense, which is underwhelmed to this point in the season. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's making plays with his legs to extend drives. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's not, um, it's not an effective

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<v Speaker 1>way in my opinion, at least to go toe to

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<v Speaker 1>toe with the Seahawks. So, uh, Seahawks defense coming off

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<v Speaker 1>of extra rest, obviously they're coming in off thereby. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they've underwhelmed this season, but a lot of that has

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<v Speaker 1>been injury related. To my opinion, they're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>full complement of their secondary back in this one. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>A healthy Jamal Adams on the field, by the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Bobby Wagner and KG Right have been playing so

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<v Speaker 1>far this season, all of it to me spells, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a solid defensive performance here by the Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we've seen this in the past to

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<v Speaker 1>where a team that was rolling through the season white hot,

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<v Speaker 1>can't lose, everything is going their way, gets an early

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<v Speaker 1>by and it cools them off a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can entirely see that playing into this way the

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks offense comes into this one. Um. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to when you when everything is going your way

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<v Speaker 1>and you're winning, and you have a week off, it

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<v Speaker 1>is difficult to come back into work that next week

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<v Speaker 1>and grind the same way you were before you got

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<v Speaker 1>your you know, your week of vacation. Uh. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you could see a little bit of rust,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of of you know, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of um just a little a little tougher, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>less ease. So to speak of how the Seahawks have

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<v Speaker 1>been moving the ball and scoring points in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of the fact that now with a full

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<v Speaker 1>complement of of secondary players the Arizona Cardinals secondary, I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe it warrants an upgrade UM. Their coverage was

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<v Speaker 1>very against that wide receiving corps from Dallas. Most people

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<v Speaker 1>will focus on the fact that the blitzes and the

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<v Speaker 1>sacks and the Andy Dalton performance was pathetic, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of that was borne out of

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<v Speaker 1>excellent coverage by the by the Cardinal secondary. So this

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<v Speaker 1>sets up perfectly for UM twenty four to ten type

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<v Speaker 1>of contests. And so fifty six points I think is

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<v Speaker 1>laughably high. It's taken me a while to get to

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<v Speaker 1>this point that this is my favorite player of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just I really can't crack this any other

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<v Speaker 1>way and see that this is going to be a shootout,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the one of the I don't think we

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<v Speaker 1>emphasize this enough when we talk about the NFL from

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<v Speaker 1>week to week, whether it's on a podcast, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>a radio, whatever, how we we look at the result

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight to ten, and even though we watched the game,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't take a beat to recognize if Zeke Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't fumble those two balls, this entire game is different.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it isn't coming upon us as handicappers to

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<v Speaker 1>like to be honest about things like that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say. Sometimes still, you know, it's sometimes it's one

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<v Speaker 1>play like Cooper Cup and the third down in goal

0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 1>for the for the Rams, if he catches that ball,

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<v Speaker 1>which he catches out of a hundred, it's a completely

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.119
<v Speaker 1>different game. For the over under, it's a completely different

0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.679
<v Speaker 1>game for the points bread. Sometimes it's one play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm again, I'm not gonna say the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>would have won. Maybe they would have, maybe they wouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>But but thirty eight to ten it was. It should

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<v Speaker 1>not have been by the way that Kenyan Drake rushed

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<v Speaker 1>to the house with under two minutes left. For those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who had in game over totals like a

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<v Speaker 1>forty five and a half forty six and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the more surreal things I've ever witnessed. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh my God, is this happening. I only

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<v Speaker 1>remember it happening two other times, one time in a

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Cowboys game where it happened multiple times in the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. I can't remember it almost ever happening. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it was unbelievable what are you talking about, Todd?

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.119
<v Speaker 1>In the in the second week of the year, Tampa

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Bay was trying to run out the clock and broke

0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the fifty yard or cover that that cost. To me, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened this year. You're right, Mike Dallas was live

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<v Speaker 1>for a defensive touchdown. I mean, the Arizona could have

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<v Speaker 1>scored a defensive touchdown any time in that last four

0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.680
<v Speaker 1>minutes too, so they were that that thing had left

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<v Speaker 1>till the very end. Um, Mikey number one for you, sir. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to make this comment about Drew's pick, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to what he said about his evaluation of the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I gave out the Cardinals on Thursday here

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<v Speaker 1>on Visa. On Friday, I bet him laying one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I bet him I laid one. I took

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<v Speaker 1>him at a pick on Monday, and and I and

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<v Speaker 1>I tremendously downgrade them after watching that game, which they

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<v Speaker 1>easily come. Seriously, I mean, what does Kyler Murray? I mean,

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the first quarter and a half was pathetic, Drew and

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Drew and I talked about this on radio the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Take three teams now another Dolphins have actually made a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback change. But Dolphins, Cardinals, Bills three above football teams.

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>They're play on offense is clearly the quarterback just running.

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I I thought Clint Cliff Kingsbury, they looked like they

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<v Speaker 1>were ill prepared coming into that game, that the receivers

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:14.920
<v Speaker 1>were running the wrong routes, or Murray didn't know where

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 1>he was throwing the ball. They did, they couldn't move,

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't convert third downs until he scrambled on third

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and twelve or whatever, and they finally and finally picked

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<v Speaker 1>one up. But I was not impressed with their offense

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 1>in the least on Monday Night. And then you know

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.159
<v Speaker 1>they scored what four straight touchdowns that's what got them

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>all their points until that run to the end. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go with the Gate team I bet against last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take the Bears in six on Monday Night

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>against the Rams. Listen to this defense is better than

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>we think. And I continue to and I continue to

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it continues to get flattered how well the defense has played. Really.

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, um, yes, Stafford moved the ball on him

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>early in Week one and got and got that big lead. Um,

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>but look what they did with Brady. I mean, there

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>were some self inflicted injuries on Thursday night, but they

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>but they held Brady down as as well as anybody did.

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>And they went in there and they made Bridgewater look

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 1>all out of rhythm the whole day, that that Caroline

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>offense couldn't run the ball, they couldn't get the play

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>action passing game going. They look very well and Nick

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Foles makes enough plays to make this team competitive. And uh,

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was another uninspiring performance by the Rams.

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>They've made their bones by beating up on the Giants

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and uh and and Washington. So look, I think the

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Bears are the better team. I know they have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to l A, but I think this game is

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<v Speaker 1>certainly stays within a touchdown and I think the Bears

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>are live to win it. So I'm gonna take the

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<v Speaker 1>six on Monday Night, all right, Mike, he's first picked

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bears plus the points Monday night? Uh plus six? Yes,

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>plus six in census. There todd number one for you, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I give you my number one, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>get an opinion from the three experts here that we

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>have Michael Palm, Dr. Gil Alexander and Drew who sounds

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>extremely articulate. I'd like to know what you guys. Have

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard him before? Todd? Have you ever why? No,

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I was a compliment. I've never heard him before. Right,

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what you gave away that you've never listened a boy.

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>This guy sounds articulate, sounds. That's what's my fault that

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I haven't listened to every podcast in the world. I mean,

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>come on, the guy, he's not feasting, he's not following

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the money goes on Guil Show all the time. Now,

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is not like he's just person trying

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to give you a compliment. But Mike has to turn

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>everything negative. It's a Mikey thing. What will can I

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>tell you? Anywhile Gil gives us a day ahead of

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>time who the guests is gonna be. Maybe if you're

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>not heard of him, you'd go look him up, do

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 1>some research, watch some of his work. Have to make

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>any picks on whether Drew's a good guest or not. Mikey,

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I got enough research to do. Okay, give me a break.

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching freaking a Polo bear Cheva soccer here in

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the meantime, under under rapidly and Arsenal scoreless and half.

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>We're looking good under two and a half plus one fifteen.

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Now we're getting into a middling position soon. By the way,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>another you're another person who would freaking love the Draft

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.919
<v Speaker 1>Kings and the fantal soccer. But anyways, um my, my

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>question is this last week I thought Denver was gonna

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>have a hard time scoring against New England. They actually

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>moved the ball a little bit better than than you

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>would think, but I thought Belichick would be able to,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, game plan up on Drew Lock, who I

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 1>still do not believe is any good. So it was

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>there was team total eighteen and a half minus one

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven available, and there was team total minus under

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>seventeen and a half minus one ten available. I didn't

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>want to pay up twenty seven extra cents to get

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>the under eighteen and a half, so I went with

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the seventeen and a half. And of course, because am

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>hates me, of course it has to land on eighteen,

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the most uncommon possible number in the history of football.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>My question is, had I been a person who has

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>him doesn't hate, do you think that was the correct

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>move to not pay the extra twenty seven cents for eighteen?

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Can I just tell Drew once again, Hashem is the

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Hebrew for the name which the Orthodox Jews, which todd

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you to be one of call God. And so he

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>believes a sham hates him. For everybody that makes sense jeseus. Yeah,

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>some people have a different term for him. So the

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>question was, I don't I don't. I am an advocate

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>of always, always, always sell. I'm never I'm never buying

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>points in pretty much anything. I mean, if you do,

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>you think, if you do the numbers, it's it's almost

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>there's almost always a player tax buying and and and

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>so the vice versus is true. There's a little bit less.

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>You take a little big away in my opinion, if

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you sell. So I wasn't one second, let me let

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>me make this player. Yeah, I wasn't buying the eighteen.

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>It was done two different sites, so I wasn't necessarily

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>paying up on the buy. But I just thought twenty

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>seven cents for the A team was too much. It

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 1>is insane. Yeah, I would add to what Drew say.

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Drew is good at this too. It's not

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>like eighteen is a key number either, right, that was

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>my point, Yeah, right, yeah, it's I thought there could

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:02.880
<v Speaker 1>have been there could have been an older Hebrew parable

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>and this that you could have gotten visited by a

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 1>demon and he would have been like, the Denver Broncos

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>aren't going to score any touchdowns in the games. And

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I will let you bet the money line for even

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>money on the New England Patriots. How much would you

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 1>have had on the Patriots? Because six field goals and

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.719
<v Speaker 1>they beat the Patriots. That was the by far, the

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>most bizarre outcome of last week. And realistically, I can't

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>look at the Patriots Niners game and make any sense

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>out of it this week because I just don't know

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>who the Patriots are. How do you perform that way?

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>It was? That was that was a very strange, strange

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>six field goals for the Broncos on their first six drives,

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>never scored again, and then I could I could see

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it coming. When it got to nine, I'm thinking, oh, please, please, no, please,

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>any number of all the weird things that happened last

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>week with Romeo Cornell going for two, up seven, um

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Ron Rivera trying to go for the win. How about

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos up eighteen to nine, all of a sudden

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>deciding you know, we're gonna start heaving the ball down field?

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Now it's just you guys are up eighteen to nine,

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>You're not down eighteen to nine. It was Vic Fangio.

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>You love Vin. He's the best, that guy, I'll tell you. Anyways,

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>my best pick, sorry for digressing so much, but my

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>my best pick of the week. I'm gonna go with

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the Carolina Panthers. I went to the well last week.

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I should have listened to the Brent must Burger who

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>was warning me not to do it. He said the

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Bears defense was too good. That being said, let's let's

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>be honest. Though Carolina gave him a touchdown the beginning

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of the game by throwing an interception at the ten

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>yard line, there are many iterations of that football game

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>where it's a toss up game, and even even so,

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it was a toss up game. So I don't think

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>it was such a horrible pick that all three of

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>us like Carolina, but we should have listened to Brent

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and uh whatever. Anyways, this week, I like Carolina seven

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and a half points against a team like New Orleans.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I do not think New Orleans is elite anymore. I

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>think they're still a very good team. I just don't

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>think they're elite and I think Carolina is the kind

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of average football to team. Throw it into a big,

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, bucket, and you don't want to be laying

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half points when you've got a team

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>that's above average against the maybe a slightly above average team. Right,

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>plus seven and a half. That's a lot of point.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans defense isn't that good? New Orleans has given

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>up a lot of points this year. Um, So I

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>don't like, you know, I like taking points against teams

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that may give up back door touchdowns at the end.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean New Orleans gave up thirty four to Vegas,

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>They gave up thirty seven to Green Bay. They even

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>gave up twenty nine to Detroit, gave up twenty seven

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>to to Herbert. So you know, if Teddy two gloves

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>can get me to twenty four, they could lose thirty

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>one and I still win. So let me have Carolina

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Panthers plus seven and a half. Let him have it,

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Carolina plus seven and a half. My number one pick

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of the week is, uh, Pittsburgh Steelers wow in a battle.

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Pittsburgh now a dog in this game. Uh.

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>This happened last night. I went in to do primetime action.

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, look, Pittsburg's two point favor and

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>then by the time the show was over, Pittsburgh was

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>an underdog. This is the weirdest thing. I don't know

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>if you've noticed this this year more than others drew

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>where we know about injury news in advance, like we

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>knew Devin Bush was on a donezo, and then when

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>it becomes official, all of a sudden, people act like

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>they this was was breaking news. And the line just

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>tears the other way. And what's interesting to me, and

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>this is no one's talking about the fact that Taylor

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Lewin of the of the Titans is not going to

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>be available, so that that's big to me. Um. So

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>does it scare you that they just had their best

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>performance of the year winning thirty seven? Does that scare

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you at all? It does not, because this is a

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>battle of undefeated and I don't think they need extra

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>motivation for this. Does it scare you at all that

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>they have the Ravens on deck? Yes, that scares me more.

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you though, what what what puts me at ease?

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Though not only the Luan injury. Tennessee Titans and I

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>love the Titans, and I don't want to be I

0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>don't want to make the mistake of last postseason when

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>they beat the Patriots and they beat the Ravens by

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the way, I was on the Titans in those games,

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>so I wasn't one of these people who underestimated them.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>But this year the Titans have four of their five

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>wins by six points or fewer. Probably shouldn't have one

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>last week against the Texans. We can get into whether

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>people thought Romeo Cornell was crazy or not for going

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>for to I thought he was um, But they leave

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the door open in Tennessee wins that Tennessee has had

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of close calls this year. I just think

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh is one of the few teams in the NFL

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>this year where we can legitimately say this is a

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty balanced football team. Their offense and they're finding weapons

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>all the time. No one drafts wide receivers better than

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Steelers. H Chase Claypool getting it done now

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>along with uh with Juju. I think they've they're solid

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>balanced offense, and I think their defense, and in a

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>league where we can't say this about many teams, they've

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>got a solid defense getting plus one and a half.

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I like them this week.

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>That's my number one pick. My number ones have done

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>sucky too. Let me just point that out. But you're

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>on you're on a hot street. Gil, you started off

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>very poorly and it's been hot lately. So I'm gonna

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid train Todd Wishnepp. Buyer, beware, buyer, beware, be careful.

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>All right, number two, Drew, what's your number two pick?

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So I'll stay on that game and I'll comment real

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>quickly on the injury stuff because I've noticed it. Two.

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>We talked about it in the Giants game, the Philadelphia

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Giants game, and the Devin Bush one was especially crazy

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>because again, anyone who followed that game or read even

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>read the recap like it was mentioned, you know, he

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>cleared pretty clearly towards a c L on that one

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and uh and was going to be unavailable, So that

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>was surprising. There's probably someone out there who's got some

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of algorithmic betting going on. When an injury hits

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the don Best screen, they just paint the board knowing

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that it's going to move uh, and they're trying to

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>capture some sort of UM, you know, little little incremental

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>value just knowing that the you know that once it

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>hits the screen, it's gonna you know, it's gonna the

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>number is gonna move or something like that. But because

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, like you saw two weird moves

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in that game last night or really yesterday all day,

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody very confident in the under and somebody very sure

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that the Titans should be favorite in that. And so

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the two combined is basically saying that somehow the market

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>is underrating the Titans defense, and that is crazy to me.

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I really really think this is the least impactful unit

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>on the field out of the four UM and you know,

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>in today's NFL where especially in the regular season handicapping,

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I upweight offense significantly in terms of coming up with

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>a number relative to defense UM and Tennessee is my

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>number one offense right now. Pittsburgh is my number seven

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>offense in the NFL right now. These are two very

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 1>very competent offenses. And I get when I break down

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the matchup a little bit, I see Tennessee doing some

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>very unique things with their wide receiver sets. Art Smith

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>is running an incredibly complex and nuanced passing game, which

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>which is crafted exactly to make Ryan Tannehill as good

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>as he can be. So the fact that Ryan Tannehill

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>has performed at his ceiling over the last half of

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>last year and through five games this year shouldn't shock

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>us because it's it's built for, you know, for him

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to succeed. He throws passes along the sidelines eleven or

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty yards down the field very accurately, and that is

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 1>one of the more important passes you need in order

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.959
<v Speaker 1>to you know, kind of you know, make those third

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and long completions. So I think Tennessee is going to

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to move the ball on this one, even

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>against a Pittsburgh defense that I recognized there and my

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>they're my top ten pretty clearly as far as ratings go. Um,

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>but you know, their past defense can be uh can

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>be picked on. And you know, to your point about

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Lue being unavailable, it does matter. Luan is one of

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the best tackles in the league. His replacement is going

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to be a guy that we've seen played twice already

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>this season. He came in in relief in the Minnesota game,

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 1>and he came in and relief in the Houston game,

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and he acquitted himself fairly well. They have. They replaced

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Conklin on right tackle with a guy named Kelly Uh,

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and he's played very very well at right tackle so

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>far this season. It wouldn't shock me to see them

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>flip him to the left so he's protecting Tanehill's blindside. Uh.

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>And then the replacement level player that they have then

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>to fill in on the right tackle doesn't matter quite

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 1>as much. Um. So I'm not especially worried about tan

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Hill taking too many sacks in this game. That's probably

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 1>his one key criticism. You guys hold onto the ball

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit too long and take too many sacks.

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>But um, I think I think Tennessee is gonna be

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>able to get into the twenty eight point range here,

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>which then puts the onus on Pittsburgh. Can you go

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>score for score with these guys? Uh? And they have

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.479
<v Speaker 1>a fully healthy offensive line coming back here, we're gonna

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>see David de Castro finally. Really, the whole offensive line

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.320
<v Speaker 1>is playing great and they're now adding pieces back, of

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>healthy pieces back. Similarly, with the wide receiving corps, they

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>have literally you know, four wide receiver, one wide receiver,

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>two's that is an embarrassment of riches in today's NFL.

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>So they're gonna be able to move the ball and

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of damage against the Tennessee defense that

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a ton of respect for. So I

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>think this is gonna be an old fashioned shootout. Uh.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'll take over fifty and a half any day

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.479
<v Speaker 1>of the week over fifty and a half from Drew.

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if that was gonna end up as

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>a best bet, but it is over fifty and a half.

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Can we also shout out Mike for Abel for a second.

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.959
<v Speaker 1>We talked about on a Numbers game, but the movie

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 1>he pulled. I talked about it all last year and

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the year before, how there used to be this loophole

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL rules bill. Belichick used to exploit it

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.359
<v Speaker 1>all the time where if you had more than five

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>minutes left in a football game and you were nursing

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a lead, you could keep taking delay of game calls

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and they would start and they would keep winding the

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>clock up. And it was this great loophole that Belichick

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>used to explain. And then the playoffs last year, Rabel

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>did it against his teacher Belichick, and Belichick went crazy,

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and that was the first sign of Wow, Mike Vrabel

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>is on this level in this game theory, win probability

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.720
<v Speaker 1>level that other coaches aren't. He's in that Belichick category.

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And then after Romeo, Before Romeo, Cornell decided to go

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>for two up seven thirty six to twenty nine when

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it was thirty to twenty nine. This past week, Ryan

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Tannehill had just thrown a pick. Houston had the ball

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>second and one at the Titans twenty five with three

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>forty nine remaining in the game. Second and one, and

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Vrabel throws Jonathan Joseph out there on the field, and

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>John Joseph is looking back at Rabel like, I don't

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>think I should be out here's off guy on the field.

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>And Rabel's like, no, no no, no, you're good. You just

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>stay out there, Just stay out there. You're fine. And

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>they get flagged. And what that did was it a

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>It gave the Texans a first down and more importantly,

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>stopped the clock, whereas it would have kept running and

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>they would have had two plays to gain one yard.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>So they're likely to get the first down anyway. So

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Rabel said, I'll give you the first down, but I'm

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna save myself forty seconds by intentionally doing a twelve

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>minute on the field. They needed that forty seconds to

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>come back and tie the game after Crinell decided to

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>go for two up seven and they failed. Unbelievable. Unbelievable

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 1>coaching moved by Rabel and I'll shout out to your

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 1>boss Derek Stevens for noticing that as well. By the way,

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>can can I just say something about that game? Mike?

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you want to go first? Go ahead? Mike, No,

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.439
<v Speaker 1>He's fine, sure, Mike. Now what I wanted to say

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>is I, first of all, I couldn't agree with you

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 1>more about that. I love it when these coaches get

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>it mathematically. It's fantastic. So there's nothing to be said there.

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But the one thing I do want to say is

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I think people miss the entire point of the analysis

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>about Romeo Cornell going for two here, and this is

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>they never you never hear this, And I don't know,

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you you're going to agree with me. But

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>really the question is is do you think you can

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>score two more often than they would get a two

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>on you? Because in the end, if you just kicked

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the extra point, you go up by eight. Now the

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>question is you've got to stop them from getting it

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>two to tie the game later. So I think it.

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I never hear them say it's really a question of

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>who's two point? Do you have more confidence in your

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>defense to stop it or your offense to get it,

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Because that's really kind of what the question is true.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>What was your thoughts on that they're one and four,

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>they have nothing to lose, Go for two, don't go

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>for two. I don't think it matters the one way

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>or the other. Romeo Carnell is not getting another head

0:39:56.320 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>coaching jab in the NFL. His players probably probably wanted

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 1>to inject them with a little bit of confidence. Um,

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>so you know, saying, hey, you guys, I believe in you. Guys.

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>You can go get this. You can do it. If

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it works out, you win the locker room, maybe you

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.240
<v Speaker 1>go on a little run. Everybody feels good. If you don't,

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can still hopefully stop them, and you know,

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's not really like the Texans are going

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>to be in the playoff picture. So this season it's

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 1>a lost season. You just want to you know. Yeah,

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.240
<v Speaker 1>and Todd, what you were saying is if if Romeo

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Crill and we're giving him credit here for this, because

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he made this assessment. But what

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you're saying is if Romeo Criddell made the assessment that

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>his conversion rate on a two point play was going

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to exceed the titans ability conversion rate against their defense,

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>then it was the proper play. Is that what you're saying? Yeah,

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>which I never hear anybody talking about, because that's really

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>what this all comes down to, because if they kicked

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the extra point, now you're defending it too. If they

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.879
<v Speaker 1>get the touchdown, if they don't, if if he goes

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>for the two, right, it's the opposite right, So that

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that's I never hear them talk about that portion of it.

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>They always talk about the part of whether Romeo should

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>have gone for two because you know, it puts it

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>out of reach in the mathematics of whether you win

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>more when you're up by nine or whether you win

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>more by going to overtime up by seven. You know

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that whole thing. I just never hear them talk about

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the other part of it, which is you're forcing the

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>other team to go for two also, which is you

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, that's the other side of it. Well,

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that's uh, yeah, I mean, my thing is, and you'll

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>see analytics charts that will tell you that it's not

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the wrong thing to do, right, My My whole thing is,

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you're still if you kick the extra point, you go

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.720
<v Speaker 1>up eight, and you force them to perform two events

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>get down the field. Okay, that's gonna happen in both cases.

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>But then also have to convert the two point conversion,

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and things happen on place right, So your ability to

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 1>kick the extra point, you know, the expected point value

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:46.959
<v Speaker 1>of that is close to one, right, it's point nine,

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. But things happen on two point conversions, right,

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason that they expected point value is about

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the same. But they convert fifty of the time. So

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the question is, did Romeo Crenell make the assessment? Well,

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 1>they have, Derek Riso, let's go for two now, like

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>we're giving if we give him the credit that he

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>thought it through, that's one thing I just don't know

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 1>if he did. I'm just talking about you. So let

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>me let me say I've been waiting very patient. One.

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Mike Vrabel's wife is a good friend of mine, Jen Boland.

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>She was a year behind me in high school. All

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>State volleyball players. She got a scholarship to Ohio State.

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>That's where they met, and they have wonderful families. So great.

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Two I had as one of my bets and in

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>real life as well one of my podcast bets, Texans

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>plus three and a half. I could see this scenario coming.

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I was hoping they'd stopped him at the goal line

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and kicked the field goal obviously and lose by three

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>when they scored. I'm sitting here at this table on

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Sunday saying, I hope Romeo Cronal goes for two. And

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the reason is what Todd cited. If Tennessee comes down

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and scores, they can't stop Derrick Henry from two yards out,

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>which was evidenced by and over and over time. They

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>directly snapped it to him from the five and he

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>just walked right into the air. He leaned his way

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>five yards to win the game. I agree with Todd.

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>The assessment is, what do you think your defense his

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>chances are stopping the two? Whether you should go for two?

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was the right decision. Do you

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>think Romeo Crenell made that assessment? Um? I think he

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>might have, but I I believe he might he might

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>have as well. I can't. Everyone just walked into the build,

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>slow jamming with Vinny Todd, wish neev. Look at that

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>puss on the screen that we got here. What to wish?

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I miss you. We can't. We can't hear you sit

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:50.919
<v Speaker 1>the US Tennis Center in Pittsburgh. We can't hear Vinnie.

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But just know that it's in a slow jam voice.

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Just know, um, Yeah, it's interesting, you know. I think

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those you know, I wasn't talking about

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 1>whether Romeo cren had thought that through. I was just

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>saying that a good coach, they don't talk about the

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 1>other side of of the coin. They just they just

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>analyzed the first part of it. It's a it's a

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing they do with the the you know,

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the statistics. I was talking about this last night with Brad.

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, people go, oh, well, their fourteenth that gets

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the past and against the run and blah blah blah.

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>But they don't talk about who they play, which, which

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL is gigantic because you know, you have

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>six percent of your season is one game. Let's that's

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>let's put it this way. My thing about it is

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I think there's I think reasonable minds can disagree on this,

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>right Like I think I think there's a side to

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>each part here. Unlike say the Eagles attempting a fifty

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>seven yard field goal up to with three forty nine

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>left in the game against Pittsburgh, I don't think reasonable

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>minds can disagree on that. Like I just Gruten screwed

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 1>me when Gruten screwed me with that long field goal

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.280
<v Speaker 1>against New Orleans, which was also even though it worked

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>out for him, it was not the right play. Remember

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>early in the season we had that old discussion. But

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like the like Doug Peterson saying, you know what, we're

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna kick a fifty seven yard or at Hines Field.

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>That's the key point Hines Field. And then even if

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we make it, they got all the time in the

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 1>world to just kick a field goal themselves. Like that's

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>not by the way they fil Hines is not if

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>before Hines was like the worst field of all time,

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's still bad, but it's not as bad

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>as it used to be. Just just for everyone to

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>know what stadiums are tougher to kick in Todd, since

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna make that assertion saying I'm not saying one second,

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying hines Field is not still bad. It's

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that it's just alight. It used to be horrendous. What

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>did they do? They they erected buildings all around it

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.399
<v Speaker 1>to make it easier to kick in. Well, now they

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>have the River's Casino is next door. So they took

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>some of those five dollar chips and they put it

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 1>down to tamp down the turf. That's a big fact.

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Todd's like, have you ever kicked at the old vent

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia? All right? Where are we all the way? Okay,

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>so we've heard we've heard Drew give two picks under

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.399
<v Speaker 1>fifty six in Seattle, Arizona over fifty and a half

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.439
<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh, Tennessee. Me, you and Mike have given one

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>pick each, so you can decide who you want to

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 1>go next for the second pick. Oh, Mike, you haven't

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>given two to your second. Then I copied Drew which

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>is which is over fifty and a half Tennessee, And

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I almost made that my number one. I

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>think this Tennessee is very talented offensively, which in a

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit covers up their their liabilities on defense. And

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh's gonna score twenty eight about against anybody. So I

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>just think this game might played in the sixties. Um.

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I also tend to think that your pick of Pittsburgh

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is the right side in this game, but I'm not

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>betting on that. But I would agree with Pittsburgh, I

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>just because I think they could probably make Tannehill a

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit one dimensional, which they did to Baker Mayfield

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and exposed him. So yeah, over fifty and a half

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Todd number two. My second pick is gonna be okay.

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back to the well and I always

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>get this team wrong. I'm always one week earlier, one

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 1>week late with them, but I'm gonna try it again.

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm going back with the Raiders, the Las Vegas Raiders,

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>my hometown, plus the three and a half against Tampa Bay.

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I like going against teams that looked amazing on national television.

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.240
<v Speaker 1>When the NFL gives us only one or two games

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to watch, they say, oh, you have to watch Tampa

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Brady against uh Aaron Rodgers, and then we you know,

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 1>whips all everyone intend nothing, and then all of a

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>sudden it's thirty eight ten the other way, and Tampa

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Bay is not as good as they looked in that

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 1>football game. Do we remember the week before when Tom

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Brady couldn't remember what down it was against the Chicago

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Bears in a ridiculous game. I think Tampa is a

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>good team. I'm not saying they're not a good team.

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.720
<v Speaker 1>But the Raiders had a good game plan against Kansas

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 1>City and they won the game. I mean, I'm shocked

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:53.479
<v Speaker 1>that they won the game, but they actually won the game.

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Earlier in the season, they pulled off a nice win

0:47:56.120 --> 0:48:00.080
<v Speaker 1>against the Saints. This this Raiders team, you know, I

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>gotta give Groom some credit. I think he's not that

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 1>bad and he's turning things around with this football team.

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think that Vegas they might not be able

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 1>to win the game. But at home, I'm getting three

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and a half. I'm going against the team that just

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>had an incredible performance the week before that everybody watched.

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I got a bye week to sit at home, decide

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>what to do, dodge the bullets on the Las Vegas

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Strip and somehow come up with a plus three and

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a half. Give me the Las Vegas Raiders plus the three,

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and God wish them. Not an evangelical guy for the

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Vegas tourism to wherever you're gonna say something, Drew, Yeah,

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>this was on my list of best bets. But and

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not good. Have you been following what's going on

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>with the Raiders offensive linetop COVID outbreak, my friend, Oh,

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>don't tell me that I got good. Yeah, I was

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 1>not good. My My choice of my number two pick

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 1>was either between Arizona plus three and a half or

0:48:57.560 --> 0:48:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay minus three and a half. And because Todd

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.839
<v Speaker 1>has said this now, just to create some conflict, I'm

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 1>going on Tampa Bay. Uh, Tampa Bay. You guys might

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>need a backup picks though, because not I'm not a

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 1>h sure they played this game. Yeah, so so why

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:13.359
<v Speaker 1>do you Drew hold on? Hold on the time. We're

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:14.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna let you get off the game. And I'd like

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Drew to expound on that. Yes, well, obviously Rob Manfred

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted the World Series time window auto himself, and so

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 1>he sent us a spy and just infected Trent Brown.

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>And Trent Brown has now spread it all across the

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Raiders offensive line, so that the prime time slot is

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a wide open for the World Series on Sunday night. Um,

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but not not not in seriousness, In seriousness, Trent Brown,

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 1>uh was at some point in thereby he contracted COVID.

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>He showed up for the teams team facilities on Tuesday.

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>He's hanging out with the whole offensive line. He's hanging

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:47.239
<v Speaker 1>out with some of the other reserve players. They have

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a second positive test in cornerback are Net, which is

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 1>not a great sign. They've sent the offensive line home

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>now two days in a row because they're just waiting

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 1>for confirmation that they either have it or don't. I

0:49:57.800 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>would be surprised if they are not. You know that

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>that the Raiders in general, you know, they've been known

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to have a little bit lax in terms of the

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>protocols that they're following. Um, so it's it's I'm a little,

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little, a little concerned that they that

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>this ends up being across the entire offensive line, and

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>um you know, there's enough players that the NFL gives

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>them some leeway and either you know, postpones or or

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>or cancels the game. Okay, well I'm getting off that.

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Then can I pick Can I pick a What would

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:32.840
<v Speaker 1>happen with Mikey? I wanted to discuss with Gil. I

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to just make the decision that you could,

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, give another pick. I wanted Gil to agree

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>with that, and he does. He has pick another a

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 1>different game, Todd. That's a that pick is off the

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 1>board for this contest week for for these purposes because

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>of the the Bras offensive lineman situation. Yo, well you

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>could you give your second pick, Gil, and I'll come

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>up with a new new second pick. But did you

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 1>have a third pick? Yeah, I do have your third pick.

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Slide up into your second pick. I'll slide my pickup

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike down. They could deep breath. I'm gonna go with

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Bengals Cleveland Browns over the total. Uh. Cincinnati has

0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>been moving the ball with the the the uh, the

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the second coming Joe Burrow. Everybody loves Joe Burrow. He's

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 1>so fantastic Joe Burrow. And I think he's pretty good.

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I actually do think he's pretty good. Uh. Their defense

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>is not that stellar, showing by the fact that they

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:28.760
<v Speaker 1>were up twenty one nothing against Philip Rivers and couldn't

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.359
<v Speaker 1>couldn't close the door. Uh. Cleveland scored thirty five on them.

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh the last time these two teams played. Conversely, Cleveland's

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>defense is nothing special. I think they're more of an

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 1>offensive football team. Um, you know they didn't show it

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:43.800
<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh last week. That's for shure. Baker Mayfield maybe

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>because of his injury, uh, you know, couldn't do anything.

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing is, remember Baker Mayfield can throw

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you a pick six. And I was said this last

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>week when I took up and he actually throw the

0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>pick six, So you know he could be like a

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Jamis Winston kind of guy to help you with pick

0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 1>six is for your overs um. Cincinnati, the other than

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the game they played against the Ravens and the first

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 1>week of the season against the Chargers, has moved the ball.

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, thirty points against Cleveland, twenty three against Philadelphia.

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.399
<v Speaker 1>They had thirty three against Jacksonville and twenty seven last week.

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>So I think Cincinnati is going to be able to

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>move the ball. I don't see them stopping Cleveland's offense.

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Give me over fifty and a half. Um, you know

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that'll be my second pick instead of my my Raiders.

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Over fifty and a half Cleveland Cincinnati. I like that one.

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I like that one a lot. Um all right, so

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be appo you Todd, you can go off. No, no, no,

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>but it's a Tampa Bay Las Vegas games, so I'm

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 1>not gonna play. I think I think that's actually off

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the board even at CIRCA. Yeah, yes it is. It is.

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>It is off the board at Circa, Drew, because we

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.319
<v Speaker 1>were worried that this game wouldn't be played this week. Yeah,

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd say it's like um, Arizona was the I'll revert

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to guessing lines. Arizona was the line that I thought

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 1>was the rangest headed into guessing lines on Monday, So

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll stick with that. I'll elevate that to number three,

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 1>even though I don't love it because Drew said Jamal

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Adams is coming back, and uh, that's never fun. But

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 1>as much as I hate fading Russell Wilson, I like

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the idea of having Kyler Murray in my back pocket. Um,

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and Arizona plus three and a half, that's your pick, Yes,

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.359
<v Speaker 1>that is my pick. Arizona plus three and a half

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>is my pick. Um. I don't think they were as

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 1>good as the final score indicates on Monday night. I

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>really don't. But I do think Arizona is a team

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that will play up to their competition as well. Um,

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>don't ask me why I feel that way. I just

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of do in Seattle, Like Tennessee, Seattle is one

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of these teams they put the cape on Russell Wilson.

0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>He gets them out of jams. Uh. They shouldn't have

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 1>beaten Minnesota that they did. Um, But I like Arizona.

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Give me three in the hook, which is what it

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:55.919
<v Speaker 1>is right now, and I thought this would come down

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 1>to three. It has not. I'm going to take the

0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals three and a half on not a whole

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>bunch of reasoning other than I can't pick the Tampa

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Bay Las Vegas games. So I'm pumping it up to

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>number three. I'm not sure I'm betting this game quite frankly,

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:11.359
<v Speaker 1>but that would be my third pick here. So let's

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:15.279
<v Speaker 1>elevate Philadelphia to Arizona becomes my three. So both Drew

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and I are done now with our picks. By the way,

0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>so Eagles is minus four and a half. Yeah, and

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 1>then Carter plus three and a half. Yeah. Alright, Mike

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:28.479
<v Speaker 1>your final pick. Um. I went with the same game

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 1>as Todd, but I took the over between the Bengals

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and the Browns. I just love betting these Browns over. Um.

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 1>But I thought you took Cincinnati. No, no, I go

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:42.200
<v Speaker 1>over fifty and a half. Oh, well that's the same pick. Then, Sorry,

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were. You were talking picks six and

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I said Bengals Browns. I thought you took Cincinnati. I did.

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I did because I heard him talking about Mayfield. Pick

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 1>six is yeah, you make it good help look, and

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I tried. I tried to get cute and because of

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers and went under with the Colts Bengals game

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 1>last week that that had no shot. It almost went

0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>over in the first half. You know, the kid is

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good quarterback, Burrow, and they're going to move

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the ball, and the Brown's defense is not that good.

0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 1>And at the same time their defense isn't going to

0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 1>stop the run. May Field is going to be able

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to move the ball, So this is probably a shootout.

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought you did, take sense because I like kind

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of like Cincinnati a little bit too to maybe win

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 1>this game at home. Um, but over fifty and half

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>is my third pick. They're gonna cover a lot of games,

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 1>they really will. Yeah, I think so. I think it

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:32.480
<v Speaker 1>was an aberration the game in Baltimore. Yeah, there's one

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>thing I think to keep an eye on with Cincinnati,

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's what's going on with some of the veterans

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>on that team. Um, there's a little whiff of we

0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>want out of here. Uh. You know, guys like Geno Atkins,

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>guys like Dunlap getting practice days off, you know, without

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, not based on injury. Um, seems like

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they may be shopping them around behind the scenes. Uh,

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to send those guys out of there. That doesn't necessarily

0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 1>change the handicap at all. I look back, I love

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the over. I like the Browns team total over the

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>this week specially, Um, but there is there for sure. Um,

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you could see a surprise scratch on someone like a J. Green, Um,

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you know he you know, it's not unlike what you

0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 1>see with starting pitchers around the trade deadline for baseball,

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>where all of a sudden they're not going to start

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that guy because they're they're worried he's gonna get you know,

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna they don't want to jeopardize the deal by

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>getting those guys hurt. Um. You know, just keep an

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>eye on some of the veterans for the Bengals, all right, UM,

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I need that's interesting about the Bengals. The Bengals veterans.

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a little whiff of that Todd your final one,

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 1>my final pick. This is gonna be my fill in pick.

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take. I'm gonna hold my nose. I'm

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:46.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna hold my nose. Anthony Lynn, Anthony Lynn at the opposite.

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna plus eight against Anthony Lynn. I'm gonna hope

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.320
<v Speaker 1>for the Lynn factor, and and and and make sure

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 1>hope Anthony can keep me in the game late and

0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:06.880
<v Speaker 1>somehow Jacksonville can squeak inside the number. They haven't squeaked

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>inside the number for quite a while now. Minshoe has

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>been you know, horrendous lately, and I'm just thinking, Okay,

0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 1>this might be the game. Remember, these teams have to

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:18.360
<v Speaker 1>cover some games. Maybe not the Jets. I was wrong

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>about the Jets, by the way. I made a point

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>last week about how all the teams at the end

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be either six and ten, seven and nine,

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 1>nine and seven, or eight and eight against the spread,

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and I'm correct about that. There is always the outlier

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 1>team like the Jets that ends up three and thirteen

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 1>against the spread, and that's probably it's gonna happen this week,

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>this this year. But I don't see Jacksonville, as you

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>know in the Jets world of that bad. So I

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 1>think Jacksonville's got to get some spread wins. And why

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:46.360
<v Speaker 1>not against the team like Anthony Lynn, who loves they'll

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 1>let you hang around. I could totally see them being

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>up fourteen late and him just running the ball late

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 1>in third quarter to try to punt it back and

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:56.840
<v Speaker 1>give Jacksonville chance to give me the back door. Anthony

0:57:56.920 --> 0:57:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Lynn is who you want to be against when you

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>have the back door. You know you don't want him

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>in another situation where it's a tight game or something

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:05.560
<v Speaker 1>like that, well you might want to go against him

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:07.960
<v Speaker 1>there too, because you know everything's gonna go wrong in

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 1>his world. But this is a perfect scenario where I

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 1>could see Jacksonville coming in the back door and losing

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 1>by you know, seven or eight or something like that.

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 1>So give me Jacksonville plus the eight against the Anthony Lenz.

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And isn't it amazing if if if to Rod Taylor

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 1>hadn't had his lung puncture by the team doctor, we

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 1>still would never have probably seen justin Herbert, that guy's

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the m v P of the table the Chargers. He's

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta be Yeah, would you would you play Tua at

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 1>ten to one or better for Rookie of the Year's

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>site unseen right now, though, would you play ta? I would?

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Why not? Drew and I were on the air at

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Visa when the Todd obviously wasn't listening. Yeah, we were

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 1>on the air Tod Todd doesn't listen on Wednesdays specifically

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 1>so soon. But but Tuesday, Drew and I when the

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:07.280
<v Speaker 1>news came down, I was admittedly surprised. Um, but you

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>know we saw it both ways. I guess Drew right, Yeah,

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean from an organization standpoint, it's it's you know,

0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to evaluate this kid. You absolutely have to.

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You only have a you have a three year window

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 1>to evaluate your rookie quarterback to understand if he is

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the guy that you were going to war with in

0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the future. And they have so much draft capital in draft,

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 1>they need to know even sooner because this is going

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to be one of their last chances because you know

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>they have so much draft capital at the behest of

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the Houston Texans in addition to their own that if

0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:41.720
<v Speaker 1>two us not right physically, if he doesn't have the

0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:43.560
<v Speaker 1>game for the NFL, they need to be able to

0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:45.720
<v Speaker 1>package those picks and move up and get another guy,

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:48.280
<v Speaker 1>not unlike what we saw with the Cardinals. So you know,

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they know that they're on the clock and

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 1>that they have a short window to do this evaluation.

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick may be good enough to

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 1>get you into the playoffs, but in a year where

0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not even really selling tickets and who knows when

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you're really going to be able to celtickets again, what

1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:03.560
<v Speaker 1>good is it just to get some wins and inspire

1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the fan base. And you know, I think the dynamics

1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 1>have changed a little bit and the and the organization

1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:10.480
<v Speaker 1>is being a little bit more aggressive, and it's just

1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:12.160
<v Speaker 1>in terms of you know, hey, we want to win

1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a title. We need to know as soon as possible

1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:17.520
<v Speaker 1>to as the guy. And the fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick

1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:21.760
<v Speaker 1>was winning I think is probably um it was never

1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:24.240
<v Speaker 1>part of their decision making, right. They could have been

1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:26.640
<v Speaker 1>owned five headed owen six heading into their by or

1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:28.760
<v Speaker 1>six and oh, and I think they were like, look,

1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be healthy by that time. We're gonna

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 1>have two weeks of prep, uh, you know with our

1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:35.080
<v Speaker 1>buy and that's when we're making the move one way

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<v Speaker 1>or the other. It seems like they didn't communicate that

1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to Ryan Fitzpatrick. That's the interesting thing, right, which can

1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I give the other side of this? I agree with

1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:46.640
<v Speaker 1>everything you just said, but that being said, the end

1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of the a f C East is not that good

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:52.600
<v Speaker 1>at division, folks. And Ryan Fitzpatrick, while he hasn't had

1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:54.880
<v Speaker 1>his blow up game, and I'm sure it's coming somewhere

1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>down the road, he's been pretty good. And why not

1:00:58.840 --> 1:01:01.600
<v Speaker 1>just from a human stand I'm sad for Ryan Fitzpatrick

1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and Drew is probably right in the long term. You're

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:07.840
<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere with with Fitzpatrick. But it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC East is any good this year. Why not

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<v Speaker 1>have a little story book season for a certain team

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<v Speaker 1>that I know I forgot. I kind of like their song.

1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:19.600
<v Speaker 1>It goes a little bit like this, Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphin.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mr Fitzpatrick deserves better than this. I know to

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<v Speaker 1>us gonna be great. I know too, U was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be great. But his parents can't even come to the

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<v Speaker 1>game this year. Wow, you hit the high eff once again.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicely done, Todd Um. I think all these things are true, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was surprising because of all the reasons you

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<v Speaker 1>stay Todd because they're in it there ahead of the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bills just lost again, so hey, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>the division is there. But then everything drew saying and

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<v Speaker 1>I think specifically they don't care what the record was. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was pre planning, and it's surprising. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if the surprising thing, but the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>has been Ryan Fitzpatrick hasn't taken it that well. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a heartbreaking. He didn't see it coming, so

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel bad for him. Don't you feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for I? Do? I do? Uh? Not that it matters

1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Dolphins, I guess, but I feel bad, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I have the only bets I made

1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:08.920
<v Speaker 1>before the season started, where Patriots underseason wins, Dolphins overseason

1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:11.800
<v Speaker 1>wins six, and the Dolphins at eleven one eleven to

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<v Speaker 1>one to win the division. So I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel about it, but I would I would consider

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<v Speaker 1>a bet on two of a rookie of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>just because the number is what it is. Burrow and

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert can't win their divisions, two of might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to in the same way that I would consider a

1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:27.000
<v Speaker 1>bet on Justin Fields to win the Heisman at six

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<v Speaker 1>to one site unseen because I get it's Trevor Lawrence

1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:32.800
<v Speaker 1>is to lose, but I don't know. I'll take a

1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:35.800
<v Speaker 1>flyer on Justin Fields. Can they just wait for for

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<v Speaker 1>three or four weeks till Fitzpatrick starts throwing two interceptions

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<v Speaker 1>plus the game and then they go by. But they

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<v Speaker 1>had to buy way, I get it. I I get

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<v Speaker 1>what Drew saying. I just if you're a Dolphins fan,

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<v Speaker 1>is this exciting for you to get to see two? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they love this. It's the fan base energized by this.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, we all love the kid, right well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's injury prone. I didn't you know he can't stay

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<v Speaker 1>on him his own way. Need to find out if

1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you can play a full season like you really like?

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<v Speaker 1>You need to give him ten games? Can you stay

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<v Speaker 1>on the field for ten games? You need to know?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's let's wrap it up with the final

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<v Speaker 1>three questions. Um. First of all, the first one is

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<v Speaker 1>your your favorite teaser leg, your favorite your favorite two

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<v Speaker 1>team or two leg two team rather teaser six point

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<v Speaker 1>teaser of the week. We've done very well on these,

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<v Speaker 1>waue a hell, I messaged something you just for my

1:03:27.840 --> 1:03:33.600
<v Speaker 1>own purposes. Who you have egos minus four and a

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<v Speaker 1>half and a half and a half you have and

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<v Speaker 1>under in the Cardinals fifty six? Right, Okay, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to clarify. Okay, I don't trust ud. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to read it sometimes. I mean I go

1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:48.760
<v Speaker 1>back and look and say, what the hell did he write?

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<v Speaker 1>Chicken scratch? It's like a pharmacist. It's very good, actually

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<v Speaker 1>very good. There's all kinds of extraneous lines. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to read, like a pharmacists on Twitter, just to show

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<v Speaker 1>that you have problems with reading comprehension. Drew's Drew has

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<v Speaker 1>been kind enough to stay long here. Let's get this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got three more podcast today. Alright, uh, Drill will

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<v Speaker 1>start with you front. I front loaded my week, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is the grand finale. Okay, we appreciate it. Your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite two leg teaser of the week, sir? Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is a classic Wong for sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>am taking the Detroit Lions. I'm gonna tease them from

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half down to eight and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a very solid look. In my opinion, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Lions probably win this game. Um, and realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a Mampatrician guy. I'm not a Stafford guy really. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>but what the Falcons did kind of you know, drump

1:04:44.120 --> 1:04:47.480
<v Speaker 1>thumping the Minnesota Vikings last week, I thought was you know,

1:04:47.520 --> 1:04:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that was a motivational high spot for them after firing

1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn. I don't know that they come out and

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<v Speaker 1>give you the same level of effort and the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Falcons defense is as bad as we think they are. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>And realistically the Lions are you know, they are surging

1:04:59.280 --> 1:05:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to a degree, and off of thereby in the way

1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that they played against the Jags was impressive by thought.

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<v Speaker 1>So UM, A little nervous that they will somehow screw

1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:08.800
<v Speaker 1>this up towards the end of the game because they

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<v Speaker 1>get too conservative when they have the lead. UM, but

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think they will be able to get to

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<v Speaker 1>to get a lead against the Falcon. So I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>lines plus two and a half out to eight and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. This is a standard six pointer we're talking about. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Second one, I'm gonna do something a little controversial and

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<v Speaker 1>I want, actually I'm picking this specifically to make an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting point to you guys. See what you have any thoughts. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tease the Kansas City Chiefs down from ten

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<v Speaker 1>two four. And what's interesting kind of doing a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of uh, you know, some of the numbers over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years and this higher you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we we know that, you know, not just this season,

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<v Speaker 1>but over the last couple of seasons. Scoring is creeping

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. We know what the longer extra points.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know, the conventional wisdom that three is this

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<v Speaker 1>high frequency landing spot for for NFL margins, it's being

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<v Speaker 1>challenged a little bit. And I guess, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>would it surprise you guys know that if you take

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<v Speaker 1>all of last year's contests and this year's contest, that

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<v Speaker 1>three is no longer the most common final score margins.

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<v Speaker 1>It's seven last year and it's still seven. We have

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<v Speaker 1>seven is creeping up in frequency to twelve percent. Twelve

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<v Speaker 1>percent is that? And you know, and three is down

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<v Speaker 1>from right used to be right? Uh, three used to

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<v Speaker 1>be fifteen and three is down to ten. Yeah, three,

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<v Speaker 1>three has fallen from from fifteen to ten, and seven

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<v Speaker 1>is surging up to twelve um. And honestly eight is

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<v Speaker 1>surging as well. Five percent of games now land on

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<v Speaker 1>eight UM. Realistically, what This is just kind of all

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<v Speaker 1>breaks down to, is there's sort of a secondary Wong

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<v Speaker 1>zone in in the in the U ten nine eight

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<v Speaker 1>range and teasing some of the heavier favorites. Is you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's been you know, almost as profitable. You get

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty eight sent win probability crossing seven six five

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<v Speaker 1>four three, um, and you get about thirty one percent

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<v Speaker 1>win probability crossing ten seven six five Now, so it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's an interesting little uh great point. Interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want better nine and a half to three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. Yeah, because it's so we got to

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<v Speaker 1>move it down to three and a hit. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>only is there one night and we do it by consensus.

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<v Speaker 1>Consensus is nine and a half right now, So yeah, not,

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<v Speaker 1>it's even better, even better because four is a five

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<v Speaker 1>point mark. Five percent of games land on four, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's perfect. It's a great point. Drew so from from

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<v Speaker 1>the three being the most common last year, it shifted

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<v Speaker 1>and right now you're seeing twelve percent of outcomes are

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<v Speaker 1>seven and only ten percent or three. Now incredible. I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought it's yet. Yeah, And that's incredible that it

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<v Speaker 1>went from fifteen to ten percent on threes, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>that means that means a full one third of the

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<v Speaker 1>games that used to land on three are no longer

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<v Speaker 1>landing on three. That it's pretty wild. Yeah, Mikey, I

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<v Speaker 1>used I used the Lions as well up through the

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight. I didn't expect that, by the way, why,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just didn't expect it about the Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The Lions are a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an enigma just because Atlanta is so volatile in their story.

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<v Speaker 1>But their their defense is awful. Atlanta's defense is all

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it takes like a Kirk Cousins a special

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<v Speaker 1>level of an apt for them to win. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the Lions will. I mean, this will

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<v Speaker 1>be another high scoring game, the total set that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just don't think that they're beaten by by ten.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my other one is I'm gonna hold my

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<v Speaker 1>nine nose and um, just because I don't love anything

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<v Speaker 1>else that take take Anthony Lynne down under the three

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<v Speaker 1>to two. Yeah, Unfortunately, I have the exact same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with with Mikey as the But the thing is now

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<v Speaker 1>that I have Jacksonville plus eight, I don't really want

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<v Speaker 1>to root for you know for them to win exactly

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<v Speaker 1>between two and eight. So you know what, all switch

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<v Speaker 1>my l A Chargers as my second leg. I have

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit plus eight and a half too. I like Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hard for at Landed to win by

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of points because their defense isn't that good

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<v Speaker 1>and Detroit actually has been sneaky better than people think.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about this. Have they win that game that they

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<v Speaker 1>should have won against the Bears. They're not. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>three wins. They're not even that bad Detroit. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take Detroit plus eight and a half, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'll switched to. I'm gonna hold my nose

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<v Speaker 1>and take the Rams. I don't really like the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really like their quarterback. But I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears just gonna do this every single week for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of time. I don't think so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I like their defense. I think it's great,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I just don't think they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>as good as everyone's making them out to be. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me the Rams to just win the game, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding my breath. I'm taking the Chargers on one

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<v Speaker 1>end down to one and a half. God help me. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's two. Uh not according to my board, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one and a half. But okay, okay, fine, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you the one half and then I mean, Mikey,

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<v Speaker 1>the one and a half to and you way uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna take the Pittsburgh Steelers. But am I

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<v Speaker 1>getting into seven or seven and a half? Just a seven? Right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just a seven. But that's who I'm gonna take. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's charges in Pittsburgh for me. Um, before we do

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<v Speaker 1>the fund, what's that? Because seven was pretty common. Pushes

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<v Speaker 1>loose if you don't know, if you go to your

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<v Speaker 1>correct places, a push is actually a re refund correct,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going with that. Yes, pushes don't lose, okay, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can shop. You can shop for that in

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<v Speaker 1>the market. So we have to you know, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about you should know your rules, Mikey. That's what people

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. People say it's people say it's an obscure rule.

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<v Speaker 1>It's rule number one. All right. Before we do the

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<v Speaker 1>final two questions, Drew, do you do survivor or no?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out? Okay, So that it's me and Todd. He

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<v Speaker 1>had the patriots to that, so it's only me I'm taking.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm happy. This is proof that has Chev doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>hate you. Ty. That's right, the same thing. Maybe my

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<v Speaker 1>whole season is going to turn around. Now, Okay, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do a grid for the season because I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you who you've used so far. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>know who you use in the second entry? No, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to please tell the people your second entry.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, you've used Tennessee, Cleveland Browns, New England Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>Pampa Bay Buccaneers, Arizona and Miami Dolphins. So who are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to take? I'm taking I'm taking the Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>Bills against the Jets. I I'm lucky to have them,

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<v Speaker 1>so I will play them. A lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>have them left this week, and I'll play them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know what's Sam Donald and you know, Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take Buffalo and I'll let other people squirm not having Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't gritted out the season. I don't until this

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<v Speaker 1>week because I just don't think in the year of

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<v Speaker 1>COVID it does you a lot of good. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do this week by week almost this year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people will use the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>tonight and their survivor. Don't some people will some people

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<v Speaker 1>will use the Eagles tonight. I thought about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, there's there's fewer opportunities to play the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills later than there are the Eagles. Actually, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking the Buffalo Bills. Final two questions of the big

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<v Speaker 1>favorites on the board, who do you think is the

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<v Speaker 1>most likely to lose? Out right? Otherwise known as sort

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<v Speaker 1>of your money line parlay buster? Is it the Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>Bills twelve and a half point favorites at the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Jets New Orleans seven and a half point favorites

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<v Speaker 1>hosting the Carolina Panthers, the Chiefs nine and a half

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<v Speaker 1>point favorites host excuse me? At Denver or the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>nine point favorite seven and a half point favorites, pardon me?

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<v Speaker 1>Hosting the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think we know where this

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<v Speaker 1>is going, Drew, who is the most likely to lose

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<v Speaker 1>out right? I'm gonna say it's the Saints. I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Todd's Carolina plus seven and a half pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on that as well this week. Um, And realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I've downgraded the Saints passing defense pretty substantially.

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<v Speaker 1>It's based on performance. And I come, I am wide await,

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<v Speaker 1>wide open, eyes, wide open, aware of the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints always treat the beginning part of the season

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<v Speaker 1>as an extended preseason. They don't really try to come

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<v Speaker 1>out and just light the world on the world on

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<v Speaker 1>fire weeks one through four. But it doesn't change the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that players like Marshawn Lattimore, Marcus Williams. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>these guys were up and coming superstars as far as

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<v Speaker 1>secondary defensive players go, and they are really performing poorly

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<v Speaker 1>so far this season. They are giving up many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many yards through the air. And we have a Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers team that is getting it done with DJ More

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<v Speaker 1>and Robbie Anderson in a dynamic passing attack under Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Brady that is impressing me. Um. So, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a tight contest, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>see I could see the Carolina coming out victorious. How

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<v Speaker 1>good is Robbie Anderson by the way? So good? Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting pick. You know. At the same time

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<v Speaker 1>that I that I teased the Chargers down to two,

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<v Speaker 1>I can still see them losing this team. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use the chargers. I'm the chargers because it's the chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>No explanation necessary. I just it's just they terrify me.

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<v Speaker 1>You've come around lot on Anthony Lynn. You were a

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<v Speaker 1>big Anthony Lynne defender for quite a while. You were no.

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<v Speaker 1>Your buddy thinks I was an Anthony Lynne defender. I

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<v Speaker 1>was never an Anthony Lynn defender. I thought I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that you were. I he just is upset when Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn walks into a room and I'm like, let the

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<v Speaker 1>man walk into the room. Well, that's it's it's that's

1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:25.599
<v Speaker 1>he's a sycophantic friend, a sycophantic fan. He's sycophantic in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your word for the week? Are you learning?

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<v Speaker 1>You get that email every day with the word of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. That's my word of the week, Mike, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very app here's another word for you, app for you? Alright, Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the most likely lose that right? Of those? I'm Withdrew,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the New Orleans Saints. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>not the Old New Orleans Saints. Caroline is okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>could totally see them pulling the shocker. Final quoto by way,

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<v Speaker 1>your Arsenal game went terribly well. I had it set

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<v Speaker 1>up because I had under two and a half over

1:14:54.560 --> 1:14:56.920
<v Speaker 1>one and a half, so I blew some juice. But

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<v Speaker 1>I had it set up at two to hit the

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<v Speaker 1>middle two to one late our top. Okay, last question.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in a bizarro world. We're forced we live

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<v Speaker 1>in this world. We're forced to bet aside on every

1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:10.080
<v Speaker 1>single game in the National Football League. Their fourteen scheduled. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's throw out the Tampa Bay game. Let's call it

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen games. But you're allowed one free pass one game.

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<v Speaker 1>You want no part of, Drew. You might have hinted

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<v Speaker 1>at your game earlier, what is it? I would actually, well, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awfully tough. I want nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>so many of these games. Uh, I guess I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>a Dallas Washington football team. That was mine. Dallas Washington

1:15:35.240 --> 1:15:39.519
<v Speaker 1>want no part of it, none, Mikey, that's mine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I've the last four weeks my best

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<v Speaker 1>bet has been against Dallas. You know, I've just can't

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<v Speaker 1>but they can't move the ball, I mean, even the

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<v Speaker 1>horrible defense. If they have a team that's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a professional passing offense, Washington, I would still if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to pick a take the football team, because their

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<v Speaker 1>defense at least a semblance of something, and this talents

1:16:00.880 --> 1:16:03.360
<v Speaker 1>team is just you have no idea how bad they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They were god awful with that, and then now Dalt

1:16:08.240 --> 1:16:10.040
<v Speaker 1>comes in and everybody picked him on mind. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get that. I mean, they downgraded the most important position

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden they were the chip pick

1:16:14.800 --> 1:16:17.280
<v Speaker 1>last week. But I don't know Washington, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they can score. I agree with Drew sentiment though.

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<v Speaker 1>These games are so difficult to get to have five

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<v Speaker 1>picks a week, let alone three. And then when we

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<v Speaker 1>do this exercise, like what do you want no part

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<v Speaker 1>of what? I can give you a ten of these,

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<v Speaker 1>but the one of the ten is Dallas Washington of

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, Todd I, I also don't want any

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<v Speaker 1>part of the green Bay game because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going to get out of green Bay this

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<v Speaker 1>week after that ridiculous performance. And who knows what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Houston. I mean, they're one in five, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're not really a one in five team. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>that bad, and you know, who knows what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen in that okay, uh for Mike Palm, Thank you Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>We love the D. Thank you for having us here

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<v Speaker 1>at the D. I'd like to get I say something

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<v Speaker 1>please In conclusion, well, we always give our survivor. They

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<v Speaker 1>usually at the beginning, I was gonna say, I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say three three, right, we're down to three

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three. We had four ten last week. Fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>got knocked out with the Patriots. Five got knocked out

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<v Speaker 1>with the Vikings. But again the amazing thing, yet another

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<v Speaker 1>week one entry failed to be submitted. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>us to put up a prop what's the last week

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<v Speaker 1>that that an entry will fail to be submitted? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we gonna put up twelve and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Every single week somebody doesn't get their picking,

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<v Speaker 1>can I can? I be honest with you. I waited

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<v Speaker 1>till I forgot till eleven thirty on Saturday morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, three and a half hours, no problem. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was been a panic though for a minute. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>three fifty three. There's a profit DraftKings seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>half season wins for the team that wins the NFC East,

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<v Speaker 1>and the under is plus money. You gotta take the

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<v Speaker 1>under there right seven and a half, I would take

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<v Speaker 1>the under two. Okay for Mike Palm, vice President of

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<v Speaker 1>Operations and Circuits Sports, UH and Derek Stephen's conciliary. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to everybody at the d who has been so hospitable.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully started circle next week. Well we're going to We

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<v Speaker 1>probably should iron out all the technical difficult when you're

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<v Speaker 1>over there for your tour today. It's the radio booth

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<v Speaker 1>area on top of the top of it. If God,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't know, the studio won't be being

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<v Speaker 1>used at that time either. If that's the other alternative.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Wishnev and his mother's attic and his mother's cork

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<v Speaker 1>attic in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Uh. Nice cork is great installation,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm told. And Drew Dinsick UH kind enough to join

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<v Speaker 1>me twice this week, but the first time ever on

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<v Speaker 1>the megapod here at the Beating the Book Megapod, the

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<v Speaker 1>host of the Deep Dive podcast with his buddy Andy Molitor,

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<v Speaker 1>UH wrote a world and of course UH point spread

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<v Speaker 1>weekly at visa as well. Thank you, Drew, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry it took we we went over, but we appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Sir, that was a pleasure. Thank you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. Best of luck on week seven. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody, best of luck with all your football picks.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening to the megapod. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you all, Thanks Drew, thank you Late Shops. Back dog

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<v Speaker 1>to BA dog Dog