Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to I Do Part two. We're just a
Speaker 1: few of your hosts here on the podcast is Amy
Speaker 1: Robock and TJ. Holmes, and today we have a very
Speaker 1: special guest. You have known her for years, and we
Speaker 1: actually had to double check the date because.
Speaker 2: We can't believe.
Speaker 1: She made her debut, her television debut on The Girls
Speaker 1: next Door all the way back in two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was twenty years ago. And since then,
Speaker 1: she's had her own reality shows. She's a realtor. Of course,
Speaker 1: she is a mom, and like everyone that we've had
Speaker 1: on this show and present parties included, she's gone through
Speaker 1: a very public divorce and we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: it all today and well, we just want Kendra Wilkinson
Speaker 1: to know that she is in good company and in
Speaker 1: a very safe, soft place here with us on this podcast,
Speaker 1: because yes, we've all been through something similar.
Speaker 2: Kendra, Thank you for being here, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: It's so good to be here with you guys. And
Speaker 3: if there's two people, I trust it to you guys.
Speaker 3: You guys are as real as it can get. And
Speaker 3: I'm all about real. I've always been real. That's why
Speaker 3: I've lasted twenty years in reality TV because people see
Speaker 3: it in the eyes. They know that I'm real, So
Speaker 3: you know, real, real me, It's real. Here we go.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I always say that certain folks find each other. You
Speaker 4: can tell immediately when you find your tribe. And yes,
Speaker 4: it takes sometimes people going through something and sometimes of
Speaker 4: public flogging unfortunately, but it is really cool to have
Speaker 4: you all these things you've gone through and we seem
Speaker 4: like we've watched you grow up, become an adult, get married,
Speaker 4: get all these things. Is there some part all these
Speaker 4: things are so personal? Is there some of it that
Speaker 4: you think maybe shouldn't be done in the public eye?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, you know, there's two there's a
Speaker 3: many different like ways to look at this. There's there's Playboy,
Speaker 3: there's show business, there's a media attention. There's like so
Speaker 3: many different ways of looking at what I've done, you know,
Speaker 3: And a lot of people focus a lot on like,
Speaker 3: oh you did Playboy, Playboy, Playboy, but no one really
Speaker 3: focuses and on like what it took to actually shoot
Speaker 3: a reality TV show and what it does? What it what?
Speaker 3: How much it takes to shoot a reality TV show?
Speaker 3: And it took every ounce of my soul. Like that's
Speaker 3: why they call it sell the soul and the devil.
Speaker 3: Like I sell, I sold. I sold the god damn devil.
Speaker 3: And and yeah, there's a price to pay with that.
Speaker 3: There's a major price to pay with that. I have
Speaker 3: a lot of regrets when it comes to that. I
Speaker 3: don't have regrets with Playboy and all that, but I
Speaker 3: have regrets on like, you know, where things went with
Speaker 3: show business. So yeah, I mean, you know, there's we
Speaker 3: made choice. We make choices, and we reap what we sew.
Speaker 3: It is what it is. But you know, like and
Speaker 3: I take full responsibility for my choices and my actions
Speaker 3: and everything like that. But you know, like there was
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on me. There was a lot
Speaker 3: of pressure, like shows called Kendra Kendra Sells, Hollywood, Kendra
Speaker 3: Kendra on Top Kendra Kendra Kendra. Like you know, like
Speaker 3: there's a major pressure on my shoulders to entertain and
Speaker 3: to give the audience what they want and to get
Speaker 3: you know, and to draw blood and to you know,
Speaker 3: make people laugh, make people cry, make people you know, relate,
Speaker 3: you know, And I sold a lot of my soul
Speaker 3: that way, and you know, you can't get it back.
Speaker 3: So like, you know, I always thought, like, oh, sharing
Speaker 3: the realists and the rawest part of me would would
Speaker 3: would would be the best way to go, you know,
Speaker 3: with storytelling. And I did that, but you know, it
Speaker 3: came with consequences. It came with a lot of media
Speaker 3: attention and you know of a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 3: not respect, like a lot of hate, a lot of criticizing.
Speaker 3: So you know, and I can't I'm only one person.
Speaker 3: I can't take on the world like that. So it
Speaker 3: definitely hit me hard, what you know, It hit me
Speaker 3: hard at one point and it and I crumbled and
Speaker 3: I fell to my knees begging for mercy. And that's
Speaker 3: you know, and that's that's kind of how things played out,
Speaker 3: you know, over the course of twenty years.
Speaker 2: And yeah, over the course of twenty years. Kendrick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as we said, you started on that show in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, if my calculations are correct, because
Speaker 1: you are still thirty nine years old. You were a
Speaker 1: teenager when you started in this not just the television business,
Speaker 1: but this was a highly sexualized, some would say over sexualized.
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of.
Speaker 1: Television, not just the magazine. But now you're one of
Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner's girlfriends one of three, I think initially at
Speaker 1: the time. But you again, you were nineteen. So I
Speaker 1: hear you saying, I take for responsibility for my actions,
Speaker 1: I take responsibility for my decisions.
Speaker 2: But you were just a baby. I'm sorry, but you
Speaker 2: were a baby. How did you get in that position
Speaker 2: to begin with?
Speaker 3: You know, like I, I was a horrible teenager, Like
Speaker 3: I was horrible, Like I was a runaway. I sold
Speaker 3: cocaine at the age of fifteen, Like I was more
Speaker 3: like a runaway from home. I never really, you know,
Speaker 3: had a stable life, and so I went looking for
Speaker 3: the wrong things. I went looking for dark things, I
Speaker 3: went looking for fun. And and now I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that everything I did was dark and wrong. I'm saying that, like,
Speaker 3: you know, it was easy to take that one way
Speaker 3: ticket to LA into the Playboy mansion, where how vulnerable
Speaker 3: I was, And you know, I also regret, you know, not,
Speaker 3: you know, fighting at a young age to go to college.
Speaker 3: You know, like I felt like I always had to
Speaker 3: fight for my self and my life in certain ways.
Speaker 3: So like it, you know, it just kind of I
Speaker 3: took the easy route. I took an easy road out.
Speaker 3: But you know, like who has the money to go
Speaker 3: to college? Like I never had the money to go
Speaker 3: to college. So like, you know, I mean it's easy
Speaker 3: for people like me to wander and to you know,
Speaker 3: wander into the gates of a playboy mansion. So that's
Speaker 3: what I did. I wandered in there at eighteen years old.
Speaker 3: And you know, now I'm saying that I can honestly
Speaker 3: look back and say that I was safer at the
Speaker 3: Playwood Mansion than I was at fifteen years old dealing drugs.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So in that case, like I was safe. I was
Speaker 3: in a safe environment. I was healthy, eating salads every day,
Speaker 3: working out every day, no drugs every day. Like, so
Speaker 3: I was in a safe environment at the Playwood Mansion.
Speaker 3: But was I sexualized? Absolutely? Did that cause me problems
Speaker 3: later in life? Absolutely? So you know, like you know,
Speaker 3: choices become their consequences for every choice you make.
Speaker 4: How did that have an impact that environment on a Again,
Speaker 4: you're a teenager. You hadn't been necessarily exposed to healthy
Speaker 4: relationships at that point in your life, but it puts
Speaker 4: you on a certain path. Of course, we'll get into
Speaker 4: your marriage and divorce in a second, But what did
Speaker 4: that do to you in shape what you thought a
Speaker 4: relationship was should be and the type of person even
Speaker 4: you were interested in.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I struggle still to this day with my
Speaker 3: relationships and my my views on sex, and I kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, I had to go through a lot of therapy,
Speaker 3: like and you know, they looked at me and they're like,
Speaker 3: this is the first time I'm admitting this. But they're like,
Speaker 3: you might have like a little bit of a sex problem,
Speaker 3: Like you have a little bit of a problem when
Speaker 3: it comes to thinking of sex.
Speaker 1: What kind of a sex problem, Kendra? What did they
Speaker 1: What were you referring to specifically?
Speaker 3: You know, it's just unhealthy thoughts, like just like not
Speaker 3: really settling for like, you know, a marriage and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, which is not I wouldn't say unhealthy. I'm
Speaker 3: saying that, you know, everyone has their choices and some
Speaker 3: people want to be single, some people want to be
Speaker 3: married some people and I'm just you know, and I
Speaker 3: and I'm more of a fun, idea type of person,
Speaker 3: you know. So, but you know, my marriage, you know,
Speaker 3: my marriage was at was my happiest days of my
Speaker 3: entire life. My marriage were I mean, I'm telling you
Speaker 3: those days were the happiest days of my life. And
Speaker 3: so when those days came to an end, I crumbled
Speaker 3: so hard and it almost killed me. It almost killed me. Wow,
Speaker 3: I can say that I managed to. You know, I
Speaker 3: left the playwek mansion at age twenty three, got pregnant,
Speaker 3: got married at the age of twenty three, then started
Speaker 3: my life as a as a wife and a mother,
Speaker 3: and it was the golden years of my life. And
Speaker 3: you know, I went from the play with me all
Speaker 3: like all of a sudden too like this this this
Speaker 3: this like marriage life in a blink of an eye,
Speaker 3: and and it was the right timing. You know. I
Speaker 3: I found myself just you know, so bored at the
Speaker 3: playroom mansion. I was just like, I'm ready to leave
Speaker 3: this place. I'm ready to start a family. I'm ready
Speaker 3: for the I'm ready for like Calabasas lifestyle. You know,
Speaker 3: my kids go to a great school. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: a soccer mom, I'm a softball mom, like I'm a
Speaker 3: basketball mom, like you know, like I was like ready
Speaker 3: for that, and so it all came. I manifested it
Speaker 3: and it came to me and I met the perfect man,
Speaker 3: the man of my dreams, and he's still even though
Speaker 3: we're divorced. He's the father of my kids, and he's
Speaker 3: the most amazing father to my kids. And I know
Speaker 3: I chose right with him, you know, even to this day.
Speaker 4: Help you got to help help us and help other
Speaker 4: people who will hear that the man of my dreams.
Speaker 4: I was the happiest I'd ever been. He is a
Speaker 4: great father to these kids. Why is that relationship not
Speaker 4: still solid or even worth fighting for? Listening to you now,
Speaker 4: it sounds like it's still something there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah there. Look, you know, like I'm one person
Speaker 3: that can kind of you know, we're human, We're human.
Speaker 3: We all have mistakes, We've all made mistakes, and you know,
Speaker 3: we just made I think that Hank and I being young,
Speaker 3: like we just made too many of them. And I
Speaker 3: think that it was it wasn't repairable at a certain point.
Speaker 3: So like we just decided to like cheers, like over
Speaker 3: over a drink and be like, hey, let's call it
Speaker 3: a day. Let's raise these kids, right, you know, let's
Speaker 3: not you know, let's not chase like this this fantasy,
Speaker 3: this fantasy, you know, and who knows, maybe later, you know,
Speaker 3: I want I want that again. But let me tell
Speaker 3: you something. I have not found it yet. I have
Speaker 3: not found that thing again. So it's it's going to
Speaker 3: be a hard This dating life is brutal, it's gross,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's hard in it. And I'm not finding
Speaker 3: I'm not finding a marriage number two just yet.
Speaker 2: Well, Kendra, I'm just curious.
Speaker 1: And for people who don't know you and your husband, Hank,
Speaker 1: you divorced in twenty nineteen, but you stood by him
Speaker 1: after a pretty big cheating scandal and uh, we don't
Speaker 1: have to get into all of the details, but it
Speaker 1: was very public and I can only imagine how that
Speaker 1: must have felt. It must have felt humiliating for both
Speaker 1: of you, with all the details that came. And it
Speaker 1: was a he said, she said whatever, But you forgave
Speaker 1: him for that.
Speaker 2: They did, you took him back. So it seemed like,
Speaker 2: my god, you guys got through.
Speaker 3: That, we did.
Speaker 2: Why couldn't you get through what was next?
Speaker 1: What happened next that made it so it was not okay,
Speaker 1: so that it was intolerable.
Speaker 3: I honestly, there's a you know, it takes two people
Speaker 3: to be in a relationship, and when one person has
Speaker 3: when one person changes their minds on love and marriage,
Speaker 3: that's how easy it is for it to fall apart.
Speaker 3: So I will always always want my family back together.
Speaker 3: I will always want that, so till the day I die,
Speaker 3: I don't know, like if I have another chance at
Speaker 3: marriage with that man or not, Like I will always
Speaker 3: want my kids to have these two parents together. But
Speaker 3: unfortunately that's a fantasy, you know. So I have to
Speaker 3: march in the reality of things, and I have to
Speaker 3: be in this disgusting scum dating.
Speaker 1: Oh, Kendra, Kendra, it sounds it sounds like you're still
Speaker 1: in love with Hank.
Speaker 3: I will always be in love with Hank. I will
Speaker 3: always be in love. And you know, mistakes are mistakes,
Speaker 3: like we all make mistakes. I've made my mistakes, like
Speaker 3: you know. And and but love will never go away.
Speaker 3: And and if it's real love, you're you're gonna put
Speaker 3: your pride aside and want the best for the other person.
Speaker 3: And I and I want the best for the other
Speaker 3: person so badly. I'm you know, I'm willing to be
Speaker 3: you know, friends with him. I'm willing to like there's
Speaker 3: no need for bitterness and there's no need for toxicity.
Speaker 3: So I've through these last six years, I have done
Speaker 3: so much therapy. I've gone even to the hospital for
Speaker 3: seven days to just reprogram my thinking, and I did
Speaker 3: that and it really works. So I'm now living in
Speaker 3: the state of peace of mind. You know, I'm on
Speaker 3: good meds. You know, I'm just in a really good
Speaker 3: place right now. And you know, taking up but taking
Speaker 3: up this uh, taking up this new venture and real
Speaker 3: estate has really has really you know, got me to
Speaker 3: focus in on that and not like so much you know,
Speaker 3: like the past and you know, regrets and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm like so focused on building my real estate
Speaker 3: career that nothing is like, nothing is entering my my
Speaker 3: world right now other than friends and fun and good stuff.
Speaker 4: Kindred at this point, would you consider it almost a
Speaker 4: setback to all the work you've done. If Hank approached
Speaker 4: you sincerely and said, I want to talk about us
Speaker 4: being together again. It sounds like certainly you haven't closed
Speaker 4: the door necessarily completely your mind. But would that be
Speaker 4: a bad thing for you to have to go back
Speaker 4: to and start thinking about again.
Speaker 3: I think that we would both have to be healed properly,
Speaker 3: And I don't know that other person's healing. I'm not
Speaker 3: that person, So you know, I think it just has
Speaker 3: to do with like timing and heal, like healing and
Speaker 3: and the wanting to be in a relationship, and some
Speaker 3: people don't want to be if it's not with my
Speaker 3: ex husband Hank, Like, I wouldn't want to. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't find it fun to want to settle for someone.
Speaker 3: I don't find it. I'm kind of in a fun
Speaker 3: zone right now. I'm about to sturt party in June,
Speaker 3: so I have like fun ideas more than just like
Speaker 3: settling for. Like there's like a couple guys in my
Speaker 3: life and I'm like that one just send me flowers,
Speaker 3: you know, And I'm just like, what is this for?
Speaker 3: What is you know? Like I like, what what did
Speaker 3: I do? Like, Like what what does he want? Like
Speaker 3: I overthink everything, you know, And I'm just like I'm
Speaker 3: not the type to probably settle down just yet with anybody. Now.
Speaker 3: If my ex came to me and be like, let's
Speaker 3: let's like have a family again, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah. But other than that, it's going to have
Speaker 1: to be Prince Darmans is He's gonna have to be
Speaker 1: pretty wonderful too to catch you.
Speaker 3: We had a great relationship we used to, you know,
Speaker 3: I hold on to only happy memories. So we used
Speaker 3: to go, like, you have a trailer, and we used to,
Speaker 3: you know, take the trailer out all over the world,
Speaker 3: all over the country, and and we used to like
Speaker 3: go go to the lake, and like we had amazing summers.
Speaker 3: We used to go back to his hometown for his
Speaker 3: small hometown, and you know, for for for the holidays,
Speaker 3: and we just I just hold on to happy memories.
Speaker 3: And you know, I guess I have a problem with
Speaker 3: trying to duplicate that so that someone doesn't come into
Speaker 3: my life with like a you know, with with a
Speaker 3: with a forward truck with a trailer on the back,
Speaker 3: like let's go cam, Like I don't want it, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like it's so weird. So if someone sends me flowers,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to I want a trailer on
Speaker 3: the back of a pickup truck, not a not a
Speaker 3: not some flowers. Right now, it's.
Speaker 2: Good to know what you want. That's very good to
Speaker 2: know what you want.
Speaker 4: Maybe we should introduce her. We're going to be talking
Speaker 4: to the new guys from the show Former Wants a Wife.
Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna be talking.
Speaker 4: They have a lot of pickups and a lot of cowboys,
Speaker 4: a lot of trailers among these guys.
Speaker 5: So maybe well, there we.
Speaker 3: Go, tell them about me. Please tell us, all.
Speaker 2: Right, we will love us. That's a great idea to
Speaker 2: j No.
Speaker 1: But Kender, I've been seeing you putting out on social media.
Speaker 1: You're working out, You're proud of what you look like
Speaker 1: as you near forty, and you know what you do
Speaker 1: look amazing. But you talked about in your Instagram post haters,
Speaker 1: you're actually getting hate out there for being you and
Speaker 1: being your amazing self.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just so weird. You know. I feel
Speaker 3: like I think I you know, I started Reality TV
Speaker 3: and Playboy eighteen nineteen years old, and that's when the
Speaker 3: peak of my fame was, you know, right around there.
Speaker 3: So I think that people hold on to this this
Speaker 3: image of me and I you know, I'm not saying everyone.
Speaker 3: I'm saying certain people hold on to this image like oh,
Speaker 3: you should always be this Playboy girl or whatever. But reality,
Speaker 3: you know, the reality burst and bubble Popps a long
Speaker 3: time ago. I'm a forty year old woman. You know,
Speaker 3: I have love handles now, I have a bush like
Speaker 3: you know, like it's it's it's it's not playboy anymore, Okay,
Speaker 3: And it's it's not it's not cute, but it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's going to be for the right man.
Speaker 5: Is that going to help your dating prospects? And put
Speaker 5: that out there? They come on, we're trying to help,
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: But that guy's gonna have to accept all of you know,
Speaker 3: I love that though we're really getting older and that
Speaker 3: and whoever is going to be with me is going
Speaker 3: to love all of me for forever, like, not just
Speaker 3: a part of me for a temporary so you know that.
Speaker 3: So that person has to buckle up and ride that
Speaker 3: rodeo all the way because it's it's not cute, it's
Speaker 3: not playboy, it's it's nasty, as you know, can be
Speaker 3: a lot of the times. I'm kind of a mess kender.
Speaker 2: Is that empowering though?
Speaker 1: Because I imagine being someone and we both you said it
Speaker 1: to You were sexualized, you were coveted, you were drop
Speaker 1: dead and you still are. But obviously at eighteen, it's
Speaker 1: you can't ever be that again, this drop dead, gorgeous
Speaker 1: playboy model.
Speaker 2: A lot of.
Speaker 1: Women in your position would create, and understandably so, all
Speaker 1: their value in how they look. And then when you
Speaker 1: start aging, it starts unraveling. How have you managed that?
Speaker 1: Where that was the thing?
Speaker 6: You know, people are like, Oh, she's so gorgeous, she's
Speaker 6: a playboy model, she's perfect. How do you handle that
Speaker 6: when now you are forty and dating again and there's
Speaker 6: this image of you out there and maybe you even
Speaker 6: hold it or at one point held it within yourself.
Speaker 2: How do you manage that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I just take I'm one personally, this is
Speaker 3: my journey. I'm on. I'm not. This isn't to preach
Speaker 3: to anyone or to like everyone can live under their
Speaker 3: own standards or their own lives. But for me, personally,
Speaker 3: I'm on this road of just like like, even though
Speaker 3: my boots are fake and I got a tummy tuck
Speaker 3: one and I have a little botox in my face, Like,
Speaker 3: I want to live in a pretty authentic life. So
Speaker 3: like you know, and and with age, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: all about law of attraction and stuff like that. So
Speaker 3: I don't I don't feel like you know how Pam
Speaker 3: Anderson is going makeup free and everything like that. I'm
Speaker 3: this very similar. I have a very similar outlook on
Speaker 3: life at the moment. So I've been sexualized for so much,
Speaker 3: just like she was, you know, and we went through
Speaker 3: similar things, and I'm kind of over chasing this fake thing.
Speaker 3: I'm over I'm over chasing this thing. So in the meantime, like,
Speaker 3: will I get boat talks again? Absolutely? You know, will
Speaker 3: I work out, will I diet? Absolutely? But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to ride through life the way it's
Speaker 3: supposed to go. And you know, if if a guy
Speaker 3: doesn't like me because oh I just went on this date,
Speaker 3: my dumb ass, my dumb ass, I go to this
Speaker 3: I go on this date to Hawaii. This guy's like,
Speaker 3: you're gonna go to Hawaii? And I'm like, yeah, He's like,
Speaker 3: I don't date anyone over thirty. I'm like, whose problems that?
Speaker 3: You know? That's not mine? You know that's not mine.
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm not gonna sit here and like transform
Speaker 3: myself to fit other people's needs anymore. I used to
Speaker 3: do that, and Playboy, I used to like, you know,
Speaker 3: need to look a certain way or need to feel
Speaker 3: a certain way. But look, as long as I'm working
Speaker 3: out at least three days a week, if I'm cooking
Speaker 3: and cooking for me and my kids, I'm on the
Speaker 3: right track mentally. I'm you know, I'm I feel fine.
Speaker 3: I feel completely at peace with myself now other people,
Speaker 3: you know, and I and I where like I only
Speaker 3: have like five different outfits in my closet and I
Speaker 3: just mixed and match him. I'm on a budget, like
Speaker 3: I'm on a budget, Like I'm a single mom and
Speaker 3: I'm on a budget, Like I'm not going to sit
Speaker 3: here and get facelifts and stuff like that, Like no way,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm a saying. I'm like, even though Hank's
Speaker 3: in the picture, I'm I'm alone on my end with
Speaker 3: my own finances and stuff. I'm not going to sit
Speaker 3: here and chase all these you know, these ridiculously priced
Speaker 3: things and drain my bank account to like look a
Speaker 3: certain way, you.
Speaker 4: Know, But could you have to tell me how to
Speaker 4: go back Hawaii? Did you end up in Hawaii or not?
Speaker 3: I ended up in Hawaii.
Speaker 5: On a date with a guy.
Speaker 3: Okay, I met this guy a week ago, and not
Speaker 3: not ago, not now, but like a couple months. So
Speaker 3: I had met a guy a week before he went
Speaker 3: to Hawaii and he's like, let's go to Hawaii. What
Speaker 3: do you want to Let's go? And I said, sure,
Speaker 3: it's better than going to some local pub, right, So
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's go. Let's go. So we hop on
Speaker 3: a flight and we go to Hawaii and let's just
Speaker 3: say it was the most awkward. It was the most
Speaker 3: coward date of my life. It was so awkward.
Speaker 5: How long was it it was?
Speaker 3: It was four days? We cut it to three days?
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's that's bold, though, to go on basically
Speaker 1: a first date with someone to Hawaii public.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not like we were ever alone alone.
Speaker 3: We were in a hotel or we were in a
Speaker 3: plane at the airport. Like we weren't like alone alone.
Speaker 3: So I felt.
Speaker 2: Safe, but you but it was awkward.
Speaker 3: He was cool, but like we just did not bond
Speaker 3: and we were stuck on this trip together for three
Speaker 3: days and it was it was a night It was
Speaker 3: a nightmare.
Speaker 1: It was a night.
Speaker 5: Well, how do you meet people? How do you date?
Speaker 4: How does it usually come about?
Speaker 3: You know, it just has to come naturally, Like I've
Speaker 3: never been on a dating app. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: I've been. I've been on the Raya Riya dating list
Speaker 3: waiting app waiting list for about five years now for
Speaker 3: about what they will not let me in Why No,
Speaker 3: I don't know, so I have not done it yet.
Speaker 3: I've never done a dating app, and it's just been it.
Speaker 3: Usually men like will pop up, Like I go to
Speaker 3: the bar sometimes when I'm not with my kids and
Speaker 3: a guy will just come to the bar and I'll
Speaker 3: be like, what are you doing tonight? I'm the one
Speaker 3: who I'm I'm the man because if I have some
Speaker 3: time away from my kids, I got to get done.
Speaker 2: Like I love that. So you approach the men and
Speaker 2: you say, what are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm usually the guy in the situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing and it works.
Speaker 3: It works, it works, And I do have two very young,
Speaker 3: attractive like x NFL players that are like all up
Speaker 3: on me right now, and it kind of you know,
Speaker 3: that makes me feel young.
Speaker 4: Okay, you said very young. What's very young? NFL?
Speaker 3: I'm thirty nine, so like you young for me is
Speaker 3: like thirty five, So it's young.
Speaker 5: That's young. And you like your NFL guys apparently.
Speaker 3: Like the I wish I could. I wish I could
Speaker 3: show them to the world and be like that will
Speaker 3: make that's like instant botox for me. Like really, it's
Speaker 3: just like the it's like the mood become like I
Speaker 3: become instantly hot again if I showed a picture of
Speaker 3: who I'm, who have, who I'm having sex with at
Speaker 3: the moment.
Speaker 1: Now, how much of your dating life, if any, do
Speaker 1: you share with your kids? Because how old are they now?
Speaker 1: Fifteen and fifteen and ten and ten? What do they
Speaker 1: know about mommy's dating life? Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, we're so open about it. We're just we're just
Speaker 3: really open. We're we're an open household. And they think
Speaker 3: I'm funny, they think I'm you know, it's a very
Speaker 3: it's a very lighthearted household I have and we have
Speaker 3: such a great relationship. So just yesterday we let we
Speaker 3: were at We're at a restaurant and we're talking about
Speaker 3: love and I'm like, so, Hank, you know. To my son,
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you have a girlfriend? And Elijah, my
Speaker 3: Grood daughter, I'm like, do you have a boyfriend? And
Speaker 3: they're like no, She's like no, mama. And then but
Speaker 3: my son's like yeah, I'm like, oh, let's see, let's
Speaker 3: see a picture. Ever, she's so pretty. And then and
Speaker 3: they're like looking at me, I'm like, well, your guys'
Speaker 3: day life better than mine was like nothing I have nothing,
Speaker 3: Like I might dabble into some sex every now and then,
Speaker 3: but I I but to date and to and to
Speaker 3: build be in a relationship. It's the longest bar fetched
Speaker 3: thing I could possibly feel at the moment, like I
Speaker 3: I hope it comes. I I think I have, Like
Speaker 3: I'm in a bachelorette type of vibe right now. Like
Speaker 3: I'm about to turn forty. I have a fortieth birthday
Speaker 3: to celebrate in Vegas. So it's like a marriage. So
Speaker 3: think of it like the marriage thing, Like I have
Speaker 3: a couple of things I need to do before I
Speaker 3: get married again.
Speaker 4: Could you don't get married in Vegas on the fortieth Okay,
Speaker 4: please don't get married in Vegas.
Speaker 3: If I do, it'll be with like three guys, just
Speaker 3: like half like I reverse it. I'd be like with
Speaker 3: three different guys.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's so interesting.
Speaker 1: Having had that experience with Hugh Hefner, then you obviously
Speaker 1: had an amazing experience being married. But would you just
Speaker 1: having had that experience now polygamy, polyamorous behaviors is so accepted,
Speaker 1: I mean, would you consider an I would say, a
Speaker 1: non traditional relationship because you've already had one at a time,
Speaker 1: Maybe when it wasn't as accepted, but now it's so
Speaker 1: much more.
Speaker 2: Do you would that.
Speaker 1: Even be in the realm of possibilities?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I I know that sounds like freakish and taboo,
Speaker 3: but I probably would. I'd probably explore that a little bit.
Speaker 3: I probably want to. Who knows if it'll happen. Who
Speaker 3: knows the reality, you know, who knows that that will
Speaker 3: happen or not? But like, I'm open to that. I
Speaker 3: think it would be kind of fun. You know, the
Speaker 3: best of the best taught me how to do it.
Speaker 3: You have to have taught me what it's like the
Speaker 3: OG the o G. I I only had the best
Speaker 3: the OG like influencer on you know. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean maybe I do want to get married again, though
Speaker 3: I do. I do, so I just have to clean
Speaker 3: up a little bit and get ready for all, like
Speaker 3: start manifesting that.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're you're open to it and you're not seeking
Speaker 4: it out now if I heard you're right, but you're
Speaker 4: still you will remain open to it. I think it's fair.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know what happened. So like the
Speaker 3: other day, I'm with this guy and the guy who
Speaker 3: sent me flowers and he he talks a lot about
Speaker 3: being with other women, and I'm like, and it doesn't
Speaker 3: bother me. I think it's with age or something. I
Speaker 3: kind of like, I don't really care. I'm just kind
Speaker 3: of like, Wow, I don't have that jealousy thing anymore.
Speaker 3: I used to have a jealousy thing when I was younger,
Speaker 3: when I was in my twenties. I was married in
Speaker 3: my twenties, and I used to be all crazy like,
Speaker 3: don't what girl you're looking at? Are you looking at
Speaker 3: that girl? Why are you looking at that girl? Why you?
Speaker 3: And now now and now I don't have I don't
Speaker 3: feel jealous anymore. Like I it's like if a guy
Speaker 3: wants another girl, like, so be it. That's not my family.
Speaker 3: I'll just go my own way or something. But all
Speaker 3: but I'm this one particular guy was talking a lot
Speaker 3: about being with another He even showed me other women,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, oh, that's cool, like the guy
Speaker 3: who sent me flowers, and I'm like, oh, I would
Speaker 3: still be with him. You know, I would still be
Speaker 3: with him. So I don't know if an open marriage is.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I would do that, but you know,
Speaker 3: it feels like I would do it just because, like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to feel that toxicity ever again in
Speaker 3: my life. I never want to feel jealous or toxic
Speaker 3: or feel those weird jealousy feelings anyway. It's like the
Speaker 3: worst that to me is probably the worst feeling ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it. It's a feeling of insecurity.
Speaker 1: But if you're confident enough in who you are and
Speaker 1: you know what you want and you know what you
Speaker 1: don't want, I'm curious.
Speaker 2: You've shared so much of your life on reality TV.
Speaker 1: Would you ever go on a reality dating show to
Speaker 1: find love?
Speaker 3: You know what? Guess what happened? So what, I created
Speaker 3: my own dating show. I created it and it was
Speaker 3: called Kendra's Funhouse, and it was gonna be me in
Speaker 3: a house with a bunch of guys. I came up
Speaker 3: with it one day when I was drunk, and I
Speaker 3: was like, this is like the best idea ever. Ooh
Speaker 3: toget with all these hot guys like them be castid
Speaker 3: and like I get all, like I just saw myself
Speaker 3: in a hot tub like rubbing their ads and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and then how fun of a show would
Speaker 3: that be? So I created and I pitched it and
Speaker 3: they and it actually it was about to get picked up,
Speaker 3: and I freaked out. No, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: What how long ago was this?
Speaker 3: This was like a year ago.
Speaker 5: It was your dream. It was you're gonna get paid
Speaker 5: for your dream.
Speaker 3: So I freaked out because my son goes to a
Speaker 3: Christian school.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: But like you know, in three years, it'll be eighteen
Speaker 1: and it won't matter anymore.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, maybe I should Maybe I should pitch that again.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should pitch it again.
Speaker 4: Do you watch any of the reality dating shows at
Speaker 4: all and go, wow, I would be on that one
Speaker 4: or I could be good on that one, anything like that.
Speaker 3: No, that's why I I've always created my own shows
Speaker 3: because I don't watch any TV, and I just all
Speaker 3: I know is how to entertain myself with my solf
Speaker 3: of about my life. Like I'm in my own category
Speaker 3: of like life. So that's what I would That's I
Speaker 3: would want to do my own show for sure, and
Speaker 3: and you know, and and date. I wouldn't mind finding
Speaker 3: love on camera. I think there's one part of me
Speaker 3: that has never been seen before, and that's dating Kendra dating.
Speaker 1: You've always been in a relationship, always been in a relationship.
Speaker 2: That's so fascinating.
Speaker 3: We have to make it happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's it starts here. It began here, it was
Speaker 1: announced here.
Speaker 2: I'm Kendra.
Speaker 1: We just talked actually when we were in La where
Speaker 1: you were are right now. We talked with I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know who Britney Cartwright is from vander
Speaker 1: Pump Rules.
Speaker 2: She's got the Valley.
Speaker 1: Now she's in the midst of a very public divorce
Speaker 1: and she was going through it still and you could
Speaker 1: tell the emotion was raw and real. I mean, she
Speaker 1: she's still going through the divorce. Would you have any
Speaker 1: advice for her? Having gone through a public scandal, is divorced,
Speaker 1: where everyone's writing everything.
Speaker 2: You say, every you know, what would you what advice
Speaker 2: would you give Brittany?
Speaker 3: Oh, take a break from the media, like you know,
Speaker 3: it's take a major step back and and really focus
Speaker 3: in on yourself right now, because you know it could
Speaker 3: get super ugly, It can get messy. The more you
Speaker 3: give to the media and the and the limelight, the
Speaker 3: more you're going to get back. And sometimes it's not
Speaker 3: good with what comes back to you. And so it's just,
Speaker 3: you know, handle as much as you can in private,
Speaker 3: you know, as much as possible. I know, she has
Speaker 3: a job to entertain, she has a job, she gets
Speaker 3: paid to put her life out there. But do the
Speaker 3: best you can with handling you know, the situation in private.
Speaker 3: You know, I think their kids or kid is getting older,
Speaker 3: you know, to clean, you know, just and be as
Speaker 3: giving as possible, even though it hurts, and even though
Speaker 3: like that person hurt you like, do as much as
Speaker 3: you can to like you know, you know, just know
Speaker 3: that you're going to be stuck with this person for
Speaker 3: the rest of your life. And do the best you
Speaker 3: can with you know, diffusing, diffusing the situation, diffusing any
Speaker 3: negative toxicity.
Speaker 4: That's a This is really Candri. This is one of
Speaker 4: the reason that I have certainly I think I speak
Speaker 4: for robes here love doing I do Part two this podcast.
Speaker 4: It has surprised us. I think at every turn to
Speaker 4: talk to people, when you there's something everybody thinks about
Speaker 4: you when they hear your name. I just heard you
Speaker 4: give an answer that you probably cannot imagine an eighteen
Speaker 4: nineteen year old Kindra living in that house giving in
Speaker 4: terms of advice of get out of the public eye
Speaker 4: and handle your personal business. That was such good advice
Speaker 4: in my opinion. But were you the girl in that position,
Speaker 4: You're giving her the advice that you would have never taken.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, back in the day.
Speaker 3: Yes thousand percent, Yes, thousand percent. So there. Like I
Speaker 3: said earlier, I come with a lot of regrets when
Speaker 3: it comes to show business and media. So I did
Speaker 3: handle a lot of my things too publicly and it
Speaker 3: you know, and I didn't really see it then because
Speaker 3: I was living in the moment, you know, But later on,
Speaker 3: later on, years down the line, I look back and
Speaker 3: I was like, why did I say, Why did I
Speaker 3: do that? Why? Why did I feel the need to
Speaker 3: tell the world way too much? You know, And it
Speaker 3: just it just gets really messy, really fast. And you know,
Speaker 3: you might you might not feel it at the moment,
Speaker 3: but later on you will be thinking about it. So
Speaker 3: I wish I could turn back time and take back
Speaker 3: a few things, you know, Like I went on you know,
Speaker 3: after you know, after Hank and I went through our problems,
Speaker 3: I went on all these live TV shows and I
Speaker 3: just gave all these interviews without healing. I never you know,
Speaker 3: I never went through therapy. Instead I used, you know,
Speaker 3: the media and entertainment to be my therapy, and that
Speaker 3: was the wrong way to do it. You know, I
Speaker 3: let the devil in, I let the darkness in instead
Speaker 3: of getting the proper support and the proper help and
Speaker 3: the proper therapy to truly move forward. You know, I
Speaker 3: just got refueled every time I did an interview, every
Speaker 3: time I did something, it would trigger me and I
Speaker 3: would fall back into a depression. I would fall back
Speaker 3: into a depression. I would fall back into a depression.
Speaker 3: So you know, like as much as you possibly can't,
Speaker 3: you just got to diffuse it as soon as possible,
Speaker 3: so you don't just keep living in the same cycle
Speaker 3: of of toxicity.
Speaker 1: Well, Kendra, I have to say to hear where you
Speaker 1: are now and what you said today was nothing but
Speaker 1: kindness and love extended towards Hank even you know, towards yourself.
Speaker 1: I see, and I think everyone listening can hear. Those
Speaker 1: regrets have now created the person who you are today.
Speaker 1: So I know, and I hope you feel proud of that,
Speaker 1: because it's remarkable to see you use that pain and
Speaker 1: those mistakes. But isn't that what mistakes are for? So
Speaker 1: we can become better people. So I just I applaud
Speaker 1: you for sharing as much as you have today, but
Speaker 1: sharing it with love and with kindness. That was beautiful
Speaker 1: to hear you talk about your ex husband that way.
Speaker 1: And it's a lesson for all of us to learn,
Speaker 1: because you know, everyone on the show has exes, right,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the folks listening do too. We're
Speaker 1: racking them up, but yes, it's it's an important thing
Speaker 1: to remember, especially when children are involved. So I just
Speaker 1: want to thank you for your openness and just how
Speaker 1: youautiful your words have been to mean so much.
Speaker 3: Thanks you, Thank you so much for having me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just think that, you know, it's it's the truth
Speaker 3: that we're all human beings and we all are suffering
Speaker 3: our own on our own path in some way, shape
Speaker 3: or form, and we all deserve you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: saying we all deserve forgiveness to some degree. We get
Speaker 3: deserve second, third, sometimes third chances, and I think that's
Speaker 3: that's how life should go, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, and this is she said.
Speaker 5: I can't say anybody than she said.
Speaker 4: It's just been an absolute treat and it's a pleasure
Speaker 4: to meet you, and we're going to keep our eye out.
Speaker 5: Reminder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and someone sticks out, please let me, Please let
Speaker 3: them know that I'm single. I'm ready to mingle.
Speaker 4: But if he doesn't have a pick up, a trailer
Speaker 4: or an NFL contract, he need not apply.
Speaker 3: All take a Lamborghini and a dinner at Noboo Malibu.
Speaker 5: You know that great spot, good good taste. All right, kind,
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Ladys, Thank.
Speaker 3: You, Kendra, Thanks Guy.
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