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Speaker 1: show in this New Year, New Year's it's our Okay,

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Speaker 1: question around January one is what the hell does all

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Speaker 1: Robert Burns. He was born in seventeen fifty nine, just

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Speaker 1: and me, I do still love her to distraction, though

426
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: I won't tell her so mm hmm. He did everything

427
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: he good to try and get her out of his mind.

428
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: He went to Mason meetings, he went out drinking, he

429
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: wrote poems, but nothing could stop him from thinking about her.

430
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: On September three, Jean gave birth and it was twins. Surprise. Well,

431
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: the families talked the Armors and the burns Is and

432
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 1: they agreed that it was a boy to girl. They

433
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: agreed that the boy, whose name was Robert, also would

434
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: be raised by Robert's mother along with the child she

435
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: was already raising of Roberts Lizzie his his other little

436
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: whoopsie baby um. The girl of these twins, who was

437
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: also named Jean. Apparently that was a rule of the

438
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: church is that if they if unwed couples had children,

439
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: they were is named after the couple themselves. Okay, I

440
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: was about staying. Not very creative name. Think for a poet.

441
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: He could come up with some other name. He couldn't

442
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: think of one other name in the world. He's sitting

443
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: up all night. He's got a waste basket full of

444
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: crumpled up paper. I can't think of anything, but well,

445
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Jean would stay with the Armor family in Macklin. So

446
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: good on Robert's mother for bailing him out twice by

447
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: raising two of his illegitimate children. Right, I guess she's

448
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: a long suffering lady. Right after having but six seven

449
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: kids of her own. I know, she might just be like,

450
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: I'll throw him in here, I won't even notice. I

451
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: don't know what else to do besides kids. I haven't

452
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: doing him my whole damn life. Whatever. We kept all

453
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: the baby clothes from the last one, right, Yeah, just

454
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: throw him in here now. Even while Robert waited for

455
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Mary to return to Macklin for them to leave for Jamaica,

456
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: Robert was still hoping that Jean's parents would finally accept him.

457
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: He even once forced his way into Jean's room so

458
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: he could see her in the twins and while he

459
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: is there, he broke down in tears, but James never relented.

460
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: And then just a month later, in October, Robert received

461
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: a letter saying that Highland Mary had contracted typhoid fever

462
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: and died. Yeah. Well, this left Robert even more depressed

463
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: and confused about his future. He had raised some money

464
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: for Jamaica by publishing a book called Poems Chiefly in

465
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: the Scottish dialect, which is known better as the Kilmarnock Volume,

466
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: and it was successful. Quickly it started spreading his name

467
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: across the country, but Robert postponed his trip. He's probably

468
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: still hoping for another shot with Jean. In November of

469
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: seventy six, a month after Highland Mary died, he was

470
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: still fighting with the armors, so he decided to get

471
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: the hell out of town and try out the big

472
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: city of Edinburgh. And when he got there, he popped off.

473
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: People loved his poetry and he was welcomed in by

474
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: all of the fancy writer's clothed Wow. Nice, welcome to

475
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: own Robert, join us as we write poetry. And that's yeah,

476
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: that's what a cool club to hang out in, right,

477
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean Edinburgh, you know, not a bad place to

478
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: go if you're a storyteller, comedian, art scene. There's pretty popping,

479
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah. While he was there, tiny little side

480
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: romance that probably could be its own episode. He had

481
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: a sexy little correspondence with a surgeon's daughter named Agnes

482
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Macleios and they would send secret letters to each other

483
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: under pseudonyms. His was Sylvander and hers was Clorinda. But

484
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: again they had they had quite a dalliance that we

485
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: won't get into today. That went on for quite a while,

486
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: but she never did want to get into a physical

487
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: relationship with him. It was mostly letters and you know,

488
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: flirtatious hangouts. So when she turned him down, he went

489
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: and banged her serving girl, Jenny Clowe. Jenny Clowe ended

490
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: up having his bay be another one. This was like this,

491
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: this way, I did not want to have to with you.

492
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: I hear you're very fertile, Robert. You keep voiceding these

493
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: babies onto people, and you don't want one. No. The

494
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: biographers do say that Robert Burns really loved all the

495
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: children that he had from his very first one. He

496
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: felt very fatherly and wanted to provide for them as

497
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: best he could, even though he often didn't have very

498
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: much money. So he did offer to take the child

499
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: from Jenny Cloud, but Jenny refused. She wanted to keep

500
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: the baby herself. Ultimately, she really didn't want much to

501
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: do with Robert, so he sent her some money instead.

502
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot more story there that we won't get

503
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: into today. But but Jenny Cloud stayed behind Netinburgh with

504
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: all those baby mamas and still wanting to be a

505
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: good father. He's kind of all dirty bastards. He made

506
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: pretty good money off the sale of his books, but

507
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: this wasn't a regular predictable income, so he still needed

508
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: steady work. Farm life was not doing it for him,

509
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: and he had given his shares of Moskiel to his

510
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: brother Gilbert long ago to help pay his way out

511
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: of trouble for all the pregnancies, so kind of wasn't

512
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: an option anyway. So Robert pushed hard in Edinburgh to

513
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: become an exciseman. And there's attacks on all Scotch whiskey,

514
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: and a Scotch whiskey dot com says quote, Once attacks

515
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: is placed on any commodity, someone somewhere seeks to avoid

516
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: paying it. True words. So the exciseman were basically tax collectors,

517
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: specifically for alcohol, and it wasn't a very popular job,

518
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: as it probably does not surprise you to hear. It

519
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: seems weird for this man of the people to become

520
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: a nark like this, but he just knew he had

521
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: no other marketable skills. Um he did have connections that

522
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: could get him the job, so that was kind of

523
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: basically all that was available to him. But Robert Burns

524
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: dot org says quote, there is some evidence to suggest

525
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: that he was not one hund to present comfortable in

526
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: his profession, and that brings us back to posy corner.

527
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: For Robert Burns his poem The Deals Away with the Exciseman.

528
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: The Dell came fiddling through the town and darts away

529
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: with the exciseman and ilkal life cries old mahoon, and

530
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I wish you look at the prize man. The deals away,

531
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: the Del's away, The Dell's away with the Exciseman. He

532
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: danced away, he danced away. He danced away with the Exciseman.

533
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: There's threesome reels. There's more some reels, there's horn pipes

534
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: and struts, baseman. But the best dancer came to the

535
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: land was the Del's away with the Exciseman. He's like

536
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: the devil dances with the tax collectors. Okay, that's how

537
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: I feel. But with a steady job and a bunch

538
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: of newfound fame, he returned to Macklin and that meant

539
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: one more shot with gene armor and we will hear

540
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: more about that right after this. Welcome back your bunny

541
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: lads and lassies and listeners, so very nice. Saved it

542
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 1: at the end. There you're thrown ah at the end.

543
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: It's perfect. Okay, Yeah, that's our advice. If you want

544
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: to do a Scottish accent, just talk normally and go

545
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: oh at the end. In sevent seven, Robert returned to

546
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Macklin and he found Jean and their daughter Jeans sunning

547
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: themselves on the lawn. Robert and Jeane sr. We're so

548
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: happy to see each other. Is like all the bad

549
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: blood seemed to be gone, like nothing in the last

550
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: year or so, it even happened. In fact, it was

551
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: such a good reunion. Grace writes that later that month,

552
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: Jean was pregnant again. Boom, It's like Robert can't even

553
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: be within ten feet of a woman. This guy is

554
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: fully loaded now. Not knowing that she was pregnant, Jean's

555
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: parents were actually being shockingly uncruel to Robert. They tolerated him.

556
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: They even invited him into their home once. It was

557
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: such a happy time for Jeanne. But Robert was going

558
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 1: to have to take off for a few tours where

559
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: he would be reading his poetry and lecturing across Scotland.

560
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: But later that year, all that happiness went away. In October,

561
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: while Robert was in Edinburgh between tours, their daughter Jean

562
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: died in Machlin. Additionally, when Mama Jean confessed to her

563
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: parents that she was pregnant a second time with Robert

564
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: Burns's kid, they kicked her out of the house. On

565
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: hearing about this, Robert found her an apartment to stay in,

566
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: and he wrote to Jean's mother to try to reconcile them,

567
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: and they did patch things up, but she still was

568
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: not allowed to come home, especially once James learned that

569
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: Jean and Robert were still talking and this guy holds

570
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: it rush. He realized, like, you, if you're not done

571
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: with him, then you've got to be done with me.

572
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: So Robert bought Jean at He paid for her living costs,

573
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: and he promised to help Jean in a quote marriage

574
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: by habit and repute, although he asked, as Tony Grace

575
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: puts it, that she quote make no husbandly claim upon him. Yeah,

576
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: so he really like, I didn't want to get married.

577
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: I guess no. Yeah, he really loved Jean. But I

578
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: feel like Robert was always of two minds about marriage.

579
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: He like, would meet some girl and be like, oh

580
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: my god, I love you so much, let's get married.

581
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: But also, especially at this point in his life when

582
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: his fame was kind of growing, He's like, but I

583
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: like getting laid wherever I go by different people, So

584
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't do the marriage thing because I'm gonna

585
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: do that. You know, He's like, I'll marry you an

586
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: all but name Jane, but I just want you to

587
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna sleep with other people when I go

588
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: to Edinburgh. A yeah, man. But Jean was also like

589
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: not opposed to this was this is not something to

590
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: bother her. You know, his relationship with Mary Campbell never

591
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: bothered her. She was surprisingly accepting of his extracurricular activities.

592
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I wonder. I mean, I know some people

593
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: are simply don't have that problem with that, but I

594
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: wonder what made her so particularly like, oh, that's just Robert.

595
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: Maybe she's like, that's just what he is and I

596
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: love him. He was certainly honest about it, at least

597
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: there's that. It was maybe that she was like, I'd

598
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: rather you tell me and lie, so if I freak

599
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: out every time, you won't tell me. Look at these options.

600
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: I got people like my father who's like Mr Strict,

601
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he never cheated on his wife. But

602
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: it was just like, this is the rigid rules you

603
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: live by every day of your life. Or you know,

604
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: probably other folks around town that we're all like cheating

605
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: on their wives without telling anybody sneaking around and stuff

606
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: like that, just like this is this ain't so bad? Yeah,

607
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's like the humiliation of being lied to is

608
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: worse than be know, wearing your out for somebody else.

609
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: And I still know that you love me, so I

610
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: don't really care. And she was, you know, for as

611
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: much as a perfect princess she was to her dad,

612
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: I think as she grew up to she she liked

613
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a rebel and kind

614
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: of live a bit of a don't alternative lifestyle. You

615
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: can see. I mean, it's just getting pregnant out of wedlock.

616
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: It's pretty. She's hanging out with poets and singers out

617
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: in taverns and stuff, you know, revolutionaries. A lot of

618
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: these guys were Republicans, you know, who were kind of

619
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: anti monarchy across Europe. So they were all kind of rebellious,

620
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: but marking the kind of dark streak that she was on.

621
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: In March of sev seven, Jean gave birth to twins again,

622
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: but sadly, these two both only lived a few days. Robert, meanwhile,

623
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: knew that book sales were not gonna last forever and

624
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: that he'd have to go back to farming. Sooner or

625
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: later he would keep his excise job as backup income basically,

626
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: so he hunted down some money that he was odin

627
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: and borrow for some of his books, and then he

628
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: signed a long term lease on a farm at ellis

629
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Land in Dumfrieze in June of eight. He had to

630
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: take six weeks of training for the excise, and during

631
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: that time Jean went to go live on the Burns

632
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: family farm at Moscow to learn the ways of a

633
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: farm wife, and while she was there she got to

634
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: spend time with her surviving son, Robert Jr. Who, of

635
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: course Robert's mother was raising At this point, Robert Sr.

636
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: Agreed to let Jean make a husbandly claim of him

637
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: right well, uh Tony Grace writes quote, I like to

638
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: think Robert came to the conclusion that his popularity in

639
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: Edinburgh was on the Wayne, and he knew no farmer

640
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: could run a farm without the help of a wife.

641
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: So they entered into a civil marriage at first, which

642
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: the kirk later confirmed they were officially married in all respects,

643
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: and it wasn't until April of seventeen eighty nine that

644
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: they both finally moved to their new farmhouse at ellis Land.

645
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: And I should say that this point, James Armor finally

646
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: starting to come around. The fame helped a little. Uh,

647
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: the fact that he had a steady job as an

648
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: exercise men helped a little. So he and and the

649
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: fact that they did finally officially get married, even with

650
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: the church is starting to be like okay with it

651
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: or resigned to his fate. So the darkness kind of

652
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: turned back around. Because Jean loved being Mrs Burns, the

653
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: farm wife. She gave birth to a boy, Francis Wallace Burns,

654
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: in August of nine. Robert Jr. Came to live with them,

655
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: as did Robert's first daughter, by Elizabeth Patton, remember that

656
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: serving girl. And they were calling her Bessie. Now they

657
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: called her Lizzie earlier, probably called her best for a while.

658
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Now it's Bessie all the different. And they worked all

659
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: day and then Robert worked on poetry and songs at night,

660
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: and Jean was his editor and inspiration. She was an

661
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: honest critic for him, and she helped his songs, especially

662
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: because she was such a good singer. Remember she was

663
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: like the best singer and the best dancer when she

664
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: was a kid in in her hometown. But unfortunately the

665
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: good times didn't last long, because within a year it

666
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: was obvious that the farm was just a big money pit.

667
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Robert was appointed a writing officer by the Excise, which

668
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: gave them a decent steady income, but it meant that

669
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: he was away from most of the week and writing

670
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: up to two miles a week, and whatever weather was

671
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: going on meant that his health began to suffer as well.

672
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: In October of nine, it had been three years since

673
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: Highland Mary's death, and Jeane could see that Robert was

674
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: getting depressed around this anniversary. She knew how much Mary

675
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: had meant to him and how deeply her death had

676
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: affected him. Jean really respected the relationship that they had had.

677
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: He would just walk around the barnyard at night, kind

678
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: of just staring into the starry sky, and she came

679
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: out to find him lying in a pile of straw.

680
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: She begged him to come inside and sit by the fire,

681
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: which he did, and he sat down at his desk

682
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: and immediately wrote a tribute to Highland Mary, which ended

683
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: up being one of his most famous poems. So let's

684
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: go back to posy card there, and he had a

685
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: selection from two Mary in heaven, thou lingering star with

686
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: lessening ray that loves to greet the early morn again,

687
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: Thou usherst in the day my Mary from my soul

688
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: was torn, Oh Mary, dear departed shade. Where is thy

689
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: place of blissful rest? Seest thou, thy lover, lowly laid

690
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: hearst thou the groans that rend his breast that sacred hour?

691
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Can I forget? Can I forget the hallowed grove whereby

692
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: the winding hour we met to live one day of

693
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: parting love? Eternity will not efface those records. Dear of

694
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: transports past thy image at our last embrace a little

695
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: thought which was our last heartbreaking man. Yea, Sometimes you

696
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: read poetry and you're like whatever, You're like, I'm crying

697
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: for real, and that they should look up. I mean

698
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: you should look up a lot of his poems. There

699
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: are many of them are available online and in the

700
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: translations like a little bit different. But Jean understood how

701
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: deeply he was hurt by the loss of Mary. But

702
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: Robert did write frequently of his love for Gene and

703
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: his poetry too. It's one of the things Tony Grace

704
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: points out in his article some people kind of say, oh, well,

705
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: he never felt it strongly about Jean as he did

706
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 1: about Mary, but he has several poems where he writes

707
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: about her. They just didn't have as much I guess

708
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: lingering impact as Hyland Mary poem did. Yeah, that one

709
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: stood out so much, or or they're more like embedded

710
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: into poems about other things as opposed to being dedicated specifically,

711
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: like here's how beautiful Gene is. He was just like,

712
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: one day, while I was sitting happily with my amazing

713
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: wife Jean, I saw a stone and like, and then

714
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: he goes off about that never was I happier than

715
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: with my beautiful wife. The man has written hundreds and

716
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: hundreds of poems, so we don't have time for them

717
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: all here today, unfortunately, but do go do some reading.

718
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: They're they're really beautiful. And Jean meanwhile, obviously put up

719
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: with a lot from Robert because in when she was

720
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: just days away from giving birth herself again, Robert showed

721
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: up with another baby he produced from an affair with

722
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: a girl named and Park, you all dirty bath start

723
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: at it again. And Park worked at the end where

724
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: he regularly stayed when he was off excising and couldn't

725
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: get home overnight. Oh yeah, give you some exercise. But

726
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: Jean looks this baby and basically said, the more the merrier,

727
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: thrower on the pile, just like Robert's mother, and she

728
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: agreed to raise this child too. Her name was Betty,

729
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: another dominutive of Elizabeth, by the way, and Jean famously

730
00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: later said quote, rob should have had ta wives. She's

731
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: just like, honestly, at the end of the day, this

732
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: guy should have been married twice. And she's like, I

733
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: could use some hands around here. She She's like a

734
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: harem that's what you need. You're a hare m guy. Well, meanwhile,

735
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: the farm kept getting worse and worse, and Robert was

736
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: like totally over the idea of being a successful farmer.

737
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: His landlord had an offer to buy the farm, and

738
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: Robert was like, yes, love it. Let's move to Dumfriese

739
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: and live in a city house. But Jean wasn't as

740
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: happy about the move. She really loved the open space

741
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: of the farmland, where she had frequent visitors and farm

742
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: hands to help out, but now with several children running around,

743
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: they had to move to a much smaller space in

744
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: a district of dumfries called stinking Ventyl. No thank you.

745
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: If you came to me and said, hey, babe, I

746
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: found us a great house the neighborhoods called stinks like

747
00:44:54,040 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Ship Street, I'd be like, find a different house, Hey babe,

748
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: do you want to do you want to move to

749
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: ass Stench Park? For some reason, I'm turned off by

750
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: the prospect rents cheap. I'll tell you why. It's an

751
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: appropriately named park. But Robert fared better in his poetry.

752
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: He continued to write for the Scots Musical Museum and

753
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: another project called a Select Collection of Scottish Airs, where

754
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: Tony Grace says he quote wrote, rewrote and put words

755
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: to existing melodies to enable Scotland to retain its musical memories. Well,

756
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: it's wonderful, But sadly, his health continued to fail and

757
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: his depression continued to grow with it. None of the

758
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: doctor's recommendations seemed to help, though they tried very hard

759
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: to save him. Jean did everything that she could to

760
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: help try and nurse him back to health, but on Thursday,

761
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: je Robert Burns died at home. The following Monday, thousands

762
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: of more Ners lining the streets of Dumfries as Robert's

763
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: cast get traveled through, but that same day, Jean gave

764
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: birth to their last child. She named him Maxwell, after

765
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: Robert's best doctor. Which is I mean, poor Jean who

766
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: had to also give birth the last child the day

767
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: of her husband's funeral. That's so sad. And how sad

768
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 1: for Maxwell to like be born right after his father died.

769
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: That's sad. Tony Grace writes that Robert wasn't exactly broke

770
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: when he died, but he didn't leave Jean very much

771
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: money either, and now she had five children of her own,

772
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: plus Bessie and Betty from Robert's other dalliance. Now, the

773
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: Excise gave her a pension of ten pounds per year,

774
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: but that wasn't really a lot for a woman with

775
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: seven children. But Robert Burns had been a beloved voice

776
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: of the Scottish people, and they wanted to pay him

777
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: back for all he'd done for them. So a lawyer friend,

778
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: Alexander Cunningham, along with an another friend from the Excise,

779
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: John Sime, arranged to organize a publicly sponsored fund for

780
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: Robert's family, and they raised seven hundred pounds. A few

781
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: years later, Dr James Curry edited Robert's works and wrote

782
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: a biography of him, and he made it so that

783
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: any profit would go to jean and the kids. So

784
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: by eighteen hundred that got them two thousand pounds, so

785
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: doing pretty good. Yeah, and all this allowed Jeanne to

786
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: live comfortably until her kids were old enough to start

787
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: earning for themselves. She never remarried. She politely rejected several

788
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: offers over the years because she was only thirty one

789
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: when Robert died, right, and still a hottie. I bet, yeah, yeah.

790
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: But Tony Grace writes that jean was visited by thousands

791
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: of strangers over the next few decades, who all wanted

792
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: to see the home of the great Scottish bart and

793
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: he says that she never refused a single visitor and

794
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: quote seemed to believe that her house and memories of

795
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: the poet were in some way the property of the public.

796
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: That it's interesting I wonder if, like, is it partly

797
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: how she felt about him always and that's why she

798
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: wasn't really jealous when his attention. She's like, this is

799
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: a public guy. Everybody loves him. He's not for me

800
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: to like cage or was it like, oh, well, you know,

801
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: we had a public fund to support me. You know

802
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: that makes me feel like everything belongs to everyone now

803
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: because you really, I mean, I wouldn't have it without you,

804
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think if there was maybe or a

805
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: little both, or I'm sure a little of both, but

806
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: I think the former is really interesting because I mean

807
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: he was thought of, especially after his I mean, once

808
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: his poetry took off, he was really thought of as

809
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: this Scottish folk hero, like he was the one, like

810
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: like Grace said, he was preserving Scottish memories and song.

811
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: A lot of these folk songs that Robert wrote existed beforehand.

812
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: Uh you know, they'd be sung in taverns and stuff,

813
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: but nobody ever finished them or wrote them down. They

814
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: were inconsistent. He set some old poems to tunes himself,

815
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: like not all of his work was original, but it

816
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: became his because he was the one who like put

817
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: it in stone. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah. So I could

818
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: totally see that where she's just like he is everyone's. Yeah,

819
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: I got lucky. I get to spend a lot of

820
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: time with him, but he's not mine mine, Like there's

821
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: no possess possession feelings. She actually ended up kind of

822
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: selling off or giving away a lot of his possessions,

823
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: including apparently the bed he died in. Everybody wanted a

824
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: literal piece of so she would sell pieces of it

825
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: and also had like, uh, you know posts from the

826
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: bed carved into ornaments that people wanted and stuff like

827
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: that too, and she gave away his gifts. That's pretty cool. Yeah,

828
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if about wanting someone's death bed, but

829
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they were like, it's just his bed,

830
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: and they weren't specifically about he didn't die or if

831
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: he did, that's not why I wanted, right, it was

832
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: just said untily he died. Well, maybe he slept in

833
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: it and lived in it, all right, it was just

834
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: the last thing he did in it was dying. And

835
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: I mean, just see all these kids. That's not all

836
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: he did. Jean also would go regularly visit friends up

837
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: in Edinburgh and they had parties erupt all the time

838
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: with a song and dance. At one time, while she

839
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: was there, a young man asked Jean, who was now

840
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: in her sixties, if her dancing days were over. He said, quote,

841
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: I have not seen you on the floor, and Jean replied, quote, well,

842
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: that's no fault of mine. She's like nobody asked. Oh,

843
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: so they asked her, and she challenged, accepted right exactly,

844
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: and she stood up and she just absolutely delighted that

845
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: crowd by springing into a jig, showing she hadn't lost

846
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: a single step over all these years. And by the

847
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: end of the night she had danced with everyone at

848
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: that party. Gene is awesome. Everybody loves Gene. And that's

849
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: that's again, what Tony Grace is kind of writing about

850
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: is that a lot of her legacy is left behind.

851
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: But she was in a lot of ways as beloved

852
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: over the next thirty years of her life, uh, you know,

853
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: as Robert Burns was by the time he died. She

854
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: was just like this public figure that everybody had a

855
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: great time around. And she was so nice and inviting

856
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: and just open. That's cool. She seems like just probably

857
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: hit some really cool energy to be around. It's just

858
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: a warm persons. I have been able to find so

859
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: little negativity in her. She straight up raised two of

860
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: his other sons with other women, all right, one of

861
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: them one of them he had while they were married.

862
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you would think that would be where the

863
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: line would be drawn. And apparently Jean and Betty were

864
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: actually very close for many years, and Betty lived with

865
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: her until she got married in eight There was even

866
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: a fund also set up specifically for Robert's two illegitimate children.

867
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: They raised four hundred pounds to split between the two

868
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, amazing that Jean lived until sixty nine

869
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 1: years old. She passed away in eighteen thirty four after

870
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: a stroke. Well In when writing for the Scott's Musical Museum,

871
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Robert Burns immortalized the song old Lang Sign, which was

872
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: borrowed from an existing folk song, but it was never

873
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: printed until Robert wrote it in full. So, like you

874
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: were saying, it sort of became his work because he's

875
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: the one who wrote it down. Yeah, and there was

876
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: a verse or two, but he wrote most of it.

877
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: I see. He extrapolated existing Old lang Sign literally means

878
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: old long since or less literally times long past, basically saying,

879
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: for the sake of old times, should old acquaintance be forgot?

880
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: Is it right that old times be forgotten? And then

881
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: the song answers itself that we should remember old friendships,

882
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: So let's us take one last trip to Posy Corner

883
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: for old lang Sign. She would all the acquaintance be forgot?

884
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: And never brought to mind, should all the acquaintance be forgot,

885
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: and all lang Zigne, And surely he'll be here in

886
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: pine Stoop, and surely I will be mine, and we'll

887
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 1: talk a cup of kindness. Yet for all lang Sign,

888
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: we run about the race and power. The gown's fine,

889
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: but we've wandered money. A weary fit synord lang Signa

890
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: had peddled in the burn frame morning suntil dine, but

891
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: says between a sprayed heeadroard sinald lang Sign and there's

892
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: a hand my trusty fare and he's a hand design

893
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: and we'll talk erect good willy wacht for old lang Zigne,

894
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: for all Blindsign my job for all Blansign, well talk

895
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: cup kind yacht, far old old he had to do

896
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: the bass I try. We started too low. Happy new Year.

897
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: Everybody like to well, they say, um. The tune that

898
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: we hear now was originally recorded in like seventine, just

899
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: a few years after Robert Burns's death. They're not sure

900
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: if that's the tune Robert Burns intended or not. Some

901
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: of his songs did have sheet music included with them,

902
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: and he had specific tunes or he would rewrite words

903
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: to old existing folk tunes or sometimes set new poems

904
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: too old tunes. Maybe he didn't like the original lyrics,

905
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of the weird out of his day.

906
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, I can fix it. You

907
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: can fix it. Um. Some interesting little after facts that

908
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: I found because of all the many children that he had,

909
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: of seven surviving children that that Jean raised and Jenny

910
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,479
Speaker 1: Cloud's baby that she kept between all them. It said

911
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: that Burns is now thought to have over nine hundred

912
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: living descendants Charlemagne right. Among his living descendants includes Tommy

913
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: ill figure. According to Scottsman dot com, American fashion designer,

914
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: he told Vogue in twelve that quote it was never

915
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: discussed in my house because it was said that Robert

916
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: Burns was a womanizer and a boozer. They were embarrassed

917
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: he was related. So we weren't told until we were

918
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: in our teens or maybe twenties. So that is a

919
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: rumor that has persisted about Robert Burns for a long time,

920
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: that he was kind of a drunk too. Um. But

921
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: Jean actually really hated those rumors. Tony Grace writes that

922
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: she said quote never either before or after they're on marriage,

923
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: that I see him intoxicated, and never once was he

924
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: seen home or in the least difficulty as to dispose

925
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: himself when he arrived home. So she said, no, he

926
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: was never like a stumble and drunk who had a

927
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: hard time. Yeah, nobody had to bring him home in

928
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: a wheelbarrow, right right? Also interesting In two thousand nine STV,

929
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: which is a I guess a public TV station in Scotland,

930
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: they ran a series and the public vote on who

931
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: was the greatest scott of all time? And Robert Burns

932
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: one narrowly defeating William Wallace. And only one of them

933
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: was played by Mel Gibson. Yeah, but one of them

934
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: was played by Alan Cumming. I know who wins that?

935
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: Not bad? Amazing, what a great story and how sweet that.

936
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: You know, he and Jean were clearly made for each other, right,

937
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: but he have found someone like her that would have

938
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: been so accepting of his peccadillos, right, extra babies and

939
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Maybe not? You know, she was she

940
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: was like the perfect girl for him. It's no wonder

941
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: she had such a special place in his heart. Yeah,

942
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: they're a great couple. I'm really fascinated by them. Yeah, great,

943
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: just again, happenstance googling that just let this whole story

944
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: I know. And these poet, these writers, you know, they

945
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: keep giving it to us. Yeah, they did like to

946
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: get it. Have wild lives, I guess something to write about. Well,

947
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: next time you're singing a old lang sign, you know,

948
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: I know that if you're ever singing old lang sign,

949
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: you're probably a little tipsy. Just think of Robert Burns

950
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: and everything he went through that song. So hopefully you

951
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode as much as we did. I loved

952
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: learning about Robert Burns and good old Gene Armor, the

953
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: best dancer Scotland's ever seen. Um, So reach out and

954
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: let us know what you got. We love hearing from

955
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: you guys. Tell us about your favorite old langzign, memory,

956
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: or anything else. Our email is ridic Romance at gmail

957
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: dot com right, or you can find us sense, Twitter

958
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: and Instagram. I'm at Oh great, it's Eli, I'm at

959
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: Dianamite Boom, and the show is at ridic Romance right,

960
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: and thank you so much for listening. We love spending

961
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: time with y'all. We live see you next time. Bye,

962
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: so long, friends, it's time to go. Thanks for listening

963
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: to our show. Tell your friend's name's uncle Sandece to

964
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: listen to a show ridiculous roll dance