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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets ub Podcast, Episode number two nineteen. Just

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Speaker 1: wrapped up a series against the Kansasity Royals. Got swept. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got swept. So we are going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline because I feel like that is probably the

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Speaker 1: most topical thing that we can talk about outside the

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Speaker 1: games that just happened. And let's be honest, there's not

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Speaker 1: too much to take from those games. So it has

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Speaker 1: been a pretty busy trade deadline for the Mets. Especially

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Speaker 1: if you're a Mets fan, you know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the Max Scherzer and David Robertson trades

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Speaker 1: on the last episode, and since then we do have

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Speaker 1: a few more justin Verlander, Tommy fam dominic Leone, a

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Speaker 1: bunch of names going out. We'll go through all the details,

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Speaker 1: all the prospects, everything for you guys on this episode.

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Speaker 2: How we feel, I mean, how could we be feeling?

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Speaker 2: I think that it's just kind of the same sentiment

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Speaker 2: thank you, guys for all the great support and the

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Speaker 2: great comments we got for our last episode. More of

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Speaker 2: more of like a wide wide scope zoom oat episode

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Speaker 2: rather than like this game by game, pitch by pitch

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Speaker 2: thing we usually give you, guys. Very cool to hear

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Speaker 2: everyone's reaction to that and just what we were talking about.

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Speaker 2: But like we said last week, it's it's not the

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Speaker 2: it's not the moves that are being made that make

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Speaker 2: us obsess the reality of the season that makes us upset.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that high expectations. Everyone knew that,

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Speaker 2: everyone knows that one hundred games last year and seeing

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Speaker 2: it be torn down in August, it's painful. It hurts,

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Speaker 2: It does hurt, It hurts us as fans. But I

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Speaker 2: still I can't I definitely can't be upset at all

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Speaker 2: with the general direction that the team is taking, just

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Speaker 2: the fact that a heel went in the ground, and

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Speaker 1: No, there was totally a way where this deadline could

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Speaker 1: have gone opposite and it could have compounded what was

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Speaker 1: a problem for what was going on. But instead the

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Speaker 1: Mets were able to turn this round and turn it

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Speaker 1: into a positive now again positive with big air quotes

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Speaker 1: still like you know, fighting to try and get into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it's going to be very very difficult,

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Speaker 1: but the idea of getting rid of Justin Verlander, Maxers

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Speaker 1: very different than Justin Verlander and Max Ers or I know,

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Speaker 2: And it's it's the number one thing you need in baseball, sustainability,

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Speaker 2: And we still have the second highest role in the

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Speaker 1: I said, what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: can't really make them a trades. Throw as much money

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Speaker 2: We know they're very much the same. It's just you

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Speaker 2: Steve Cohen's background comes from and investing in zero point

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Speaker 2: We talked about it with Max Scherz and we should

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean, like like you were saying, the

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened. And the Justin Verlander trade is a

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Speaker 2: of real excitement came over me because these are outside

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Speaker 2: my dynasty league? Some people listen to this podcasts, are

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Speaker 2: these guys in never single dynasty league? Like I'm in

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Speaker 2: the Dynasty League. Shout out Matt that I hope he's

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Speaker 2: upswig right now. Gilbert is the kind of player every

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Speaker 2: single person wants on their own team that no one

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Speaker 2: ever wants to play. I guess first round take out

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Speaker 2: a University of Tennessee last year. Really thought he was

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Speaker 2: Hit that huge Grand Slam. When was that Mark you remember, right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he hit the big Grand Slam. I think it

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Speaker 2: players in the league, I'd like a raise. He was like,

433
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Speaker 2: a how do we do this year? He was like,

434
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Speaker 2: we're in last place and he goes, Okay, I think

435
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Speaker 2: we come in last place with you, we could definitely

436
00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,640
Speaker 2: come in last place without you. That's it, like it was.

437
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Speaker 2: It's a hard decision to make, and there were a

438
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Speaker 2: lot of quotes of Steve I want to get to

439
00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,000
Speaker 2: his press availability from Wednesday night too. But again nuts

440
00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,080
Speaker 2: and balls to this Verlander money. We sent fifty two

441
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Speaker 2: and a half million dollars and ninety three million dollars

442
00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,880
Speaker 2: Verlander is o to Houston. Thirty five million of that

443
00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,080
Speaker 2: is for the rest of this year and for next year,

444
00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,240
Speaker 2: big chunk of that being next year's contract. And then

445
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Speaker 2: if he throws one hundred for the innings next year

446
00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680
Speaker 2: with the Astros I think also doesn't have any right

447
00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,600
Speaker 2: arm injuries. Is actually words in the contract we pay

448
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Speaker 2: half the thirty five million dollars he's he would get

449
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Speaker 2: at twenty twenty five.

450
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Speaker 1: And that's because it's a vesting option, because the option

451
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Speaker 1: automatically kicks in if that stuff happens.

452
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Speaker 2: For those of you at home, yes, and like again,

453
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Speaker 2: it hurts, it's painful. It's not a good feeling as

454
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,199
Speaker 2: Mets fans a having a year with such high expectations

455
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Speaker 2: after the way last season ended. But in the reality

456
00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,040
Speaker 2: of it is so much good happened from these trades,

457
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,320
Speaker 2: so there's so much more flexibility. No one wants to

458
00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,840
Speaker 2: hear that, especially it does any red Sex fans, Ye

459
00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,639
Speaker 2: wors flexibility probably sends a chill down your spine, but

460
00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,600
Speaker 2: there is you have more potential to do more things

461
00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,280
Speaker 2: now you're less locked into this stuff and being locked

462
00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,200
Speaker 2: at Like the Mets fans who were upset, would you

463
00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,480
Speaker 2: have rather stayed locked into its exact core for the

464
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Speaker 2: next three years or would you rather have pivoted and

465
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Speaker 2: try the new strategy gotten creative? And I, for one

466
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Speaker 2: think that the creativity is going to help this team

467
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Speaker 2: a lot down the line, or receive cohens to the

468
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Speaker 2: lot of sustainability. Sustainability, want to build a sustainable winner.

469
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Speaker 2: We want to be winning for a long time and

470
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Speaker 2: getting what has now become the basically the three best

471
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Speaker 2: prospects of the Mets organization. Three guys who are Clifford's

472
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Speaker 2: probably good. He's no, we know he's going to Brooklyn,

473
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Speaker 2: but I have a feeling that we see him Binghamton

474
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Speaker 2: before the season's end. Three guys who are really pushing theers.

475
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Speaker 2: Three guys who could be with good play pushing for

476
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Speaker 2: promotion as who's twenty twenty four and if not for

477
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Speaker 2: sure by twenty twenty five, with high high high end

478
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,000
Speaker 2: ceilings and pretty reasonable floors. It's it's something that we

479
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,200
Speaker 2: haven't seen really in baseball team pulling three prospects like

480
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Speaker 2: this the trade deadline, and I think it's something that's

481
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Speaker 2: definitely going to get the attention of a lot of people.

482
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Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent, this is going to change a

483
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Speaker 1: little bit how people view these big contracts. Normally, you

484
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Speaker 1: take a big contract to get somebody along with it,

485
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Speaker 1: not paying a big contract out to get someone back.

486
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Speaker 1: So be interesting to see what the trade deadline looks

487
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Speaker 1: like in the future. It was a relatively boring trade

488
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Speaker 1: deadline if you weren't a Mets fan. But there are

489
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Speaker 1: still more trades to talk about. We got rid of

490
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Speaker 1: a couple outfielders as well, Tommy fam going to the

491
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Speaker 1: Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for Jeremy Rodriguez and Mark Kennegan

492
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Speaker 1: to the Milwaukee Brewers for that ever so coveted pitching

493
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Speaker 1: prospect that everyone's been dying for, justin Jarvis. So which

494
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Speaker 1: one you want to start off here and talk about quickly? Here?

495
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Speaker 2: James, I think Rodriguez. I mean, there's not that much

496
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Speaker 2: today about these guys, and again, if you guys want

497
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Speaker 2: to learn more about them, definitely listen to the future

498
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,400
Speaker 2: of Flushing coming out of episodes almost every day. John

499
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 2: Villa doing great work over there. But most interesting thing

500
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Speaker 2: about Rodriguez that he's only year removed from getting an

501
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 2: over one million dollars signing bonus international free agent. Once

502
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,159
Speaker 2: to see a guy get that million dollars, you can

503
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,959
Speaker 2: kind of see that there was something in place there,

504
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,880
Speaker 2: some kind of thing, and he's got good hit tool,

505
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Speaker 2: seventeen year old, similar type of approach and prospect pedigree

506
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Speaker 2: as the guys we got from the Marlins, Marco Vargas

507
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 2: and Ronald Hernandez. So just again at a little bit

508
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,959
Speaker 2: probably somewhere in between those two guys and just got

509
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 2: bigger signing bonus than each of them. So I use

510
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Speaker 2: that hit tool, build up the SCL team and let

511
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Speaker 2: these guys keep going. And then Justin Jarvis, a guy

512
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Speaker 2: who I think is someone very interesting. I want to

513
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 2: show that Will Salmon, Tim Britton. They wrote a great

514
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Speaker 2: article on The Athletic this week. They went through real

515
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 2: tim every single trade of the Mets made and did

516
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Speaker 2: a little breakdown of every single player they acquired. Will

517
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Speaker 2: use my Justin Jarvis sweet, which was really cool. I

518
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Speaker 2: got a couple, yeah, a couple of dms. So my

519
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Speaker 2: seeing my tweet and athletic article was like, Wow, that's

520
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 2: kind of interesting. Didn't think that was ever gonna happen.

521
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Speaker 2: But Justin Jarvis, I think has something that's very interesting

522
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Speaker 2: before we even get into it though. He is pitching

523
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Speaker 2: a Double A this year, and I believe the Southern

524
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Speaker 2: League for the Biloxi Bilexi Shuckers, which has had the

525
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Speaker 2: Shuckers right. Yeah. I don't know what's crazy if the

526
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 2: city name or the team name, but usually when how

527
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 2: the minor league works and that league is playing with

528
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 2: a pre tag baseball, something baseball's experimenting with in lieu

529
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 2: of all the sticky stuff on issues that have been

530
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Speaker 2: going on in the last few years. So a lot

531
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Speaker 2: of what he's done in Double A was with a

532
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Speaker 2: different baseball. We saw this similarly with everyone's favorite David

533
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Speaker 2: Robertson trade partner Ben Brown and Andrew Abbott, who is

534
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 2: pitching really well for the Reds right now in the

535
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Speaker 2: Major League. So a lot of the pitchers in that

536
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 2: league have done very well, but something big at Justin Jarvis.

537
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Speaker 2: Drafted out of high school by the Brewers, He's picked

538
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Speaker 2: up like four miles an hour in his fastball since

539
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 2: he was drafted maybe five miles an hour, even not

540
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Speaker 2: as that big of a guy, but he gets really

541
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Speaker 2: great extension with a very high release point. Looks a

542
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 2: lot like Chris Bassett, big comps everybody's making there. He

543
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 2: throws hard than him, so just has that exact same

544
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 2: like reach all the way down then come all the

545
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 2: way up like lever action in his arm, and that

546
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: fasketball shape is really good with that high release points

547
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 2: protas flat the prochangle and he gets on hitre's high

548
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: in his zone, which is a huge weapon, and gets here.

549
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Speaker 2: There's the lower minors because you don't really see a

550
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Speaker 2: lot of pitchers have the confidence or the fastball shape

551
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Speaker 2: even to get that ball up there. Distinct curveball and

552
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 2: slider with a splither. None of those pitch shapes are

553
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: really great right now. There's definitely a lot of development

554
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: that could do there, especially with a fastball that gets whiffs.

555
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 2: He's definitely struggled, but with command just using all these

556
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Speaker 2: pitches and having that live action in that fastball. But

557
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Speaker 2: even in double A where everybody's using the same ball,

558
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Speaker 2: he had the eighth best strike aut mys walk great

559
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Speaker 2: of any pitcher in Double A and the ninth best

560
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 2: strike out rate, so everyone's using the same ball and

561
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Speaker 2: he's still striking out some of the most guys in

562
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Speaker 2: the whole thing. He's had very poor results so far

563
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: in Triple A, but Triple as a lot of weird rules.

564
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Speaker 2: Just going changing your baseball as a pitcher, I'm sure

565
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 2: it is really hard, and then switching to the automatic

566
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Speaker 2: strike zone for what I believe is fifty percent of

567
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Speaker 2: your game, so you'll know when you're gonna be lined

568
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Speaker 2: up with the automatic strike zone. That's that's a weird

569
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: adjustment for anybody. But definitely just keep keep trapping this

570
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Speaker 2: guy's pitches. Don't really worry about those results right until

571
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Speaker 2: it becomes like a long time of sustainable results. And

572
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Speaker 2: keep checking in with John Vidough for I was doing.

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one hundred percent good stuff. Back for both guys,

574
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Speaker 1: Who are you gonna be leaving the team at the

575
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Speaker 1: end of the year. Mark Cannis seems crushed, really loved Yeah,

576
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Speaker 1: I love Milwaukee.

577
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Speaker 2: We should definitely talk about those guys as well. Because

578
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Speaker 2: Mark Cannon was a good met Like Mark Canna did

579
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Speaker 2: a really great job. He had a good year and

580
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 2: a half with his team. He's just a good player

581
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Speaker 2: to have in your ball club, Place place parking, cheerios,

582
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: Finch market Cherier is like he does everything you need

583
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: him too, helps you poop man. He's just a good hitter,

584
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: took good at bats, has some really clutch moments. Think

585
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: about the Phillies game last August and the Mets of

586
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: Storman towards the playoffs. That was an amazing moment, screamed

587
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: in the streets. And he's just a pretty really good guy.

588
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: Like he was such a good dude. Everything, everything he

589
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Speaker 2: did for the social justice use Pride a month this

590
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: year was amazing. See how like open friendly he was

591
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: with fans, with vendors, with everybody. Nobody in the Mets

592
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: organization had anything even close to a bad thing to

593
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: say about Markanda and Tommy Fam. You guys not much.

594
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Speaker 2: I love Tommy Fam. The fact that Tommy we signed

595
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Speaker 2: my boy, Tommy Fam. He was arguably the bests, like

596
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: fourth best hitter while he was here. We got and

597
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: we got an asset for him at a rental. Now

598
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Speaker 2: he's in the playoff picture, Like, come on, Tommy, go

599
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: have some fun. Tommy Fame lead the Diamondbacks to a

600
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Speaker 2: wildcard spot. I want to see it.

601
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's one cool thing is like we didn't

602
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Speaker 1: trade him to like the Phillies or the Yankees or

603
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: any team that like I would it would really hurt

604
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Speaker 1: me to root for them for I'm happy for them

605
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: to play great for the Brewers and the Diamondbacks down

606
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: the stretch if they really want to. I wish the

607
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: best for them.

608
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Speaker 2: And it's basically like him going home. Tommy Fam is

609
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 2: from Vegas. I think that Phoenix is the closest Major

610
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: League Baseball city to Vegas as things currently stand right now,

611
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: maybe San Diego, but that's his climate, the desert. Timy

612
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: fam back in the desert, getting ready to go in

613
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Speaker 2: a big run.

614
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Speaker 1: Here. Last trade to talk about here before we start

615
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Speaker 1: moving on to the estimate and maybe some of Steve

616
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Speaker 1: Cohen's comments. Dominic leone my guy traded two the Los

617
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 1: Angeles Angels. Pretty crazy. We were able to just pick

618
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: him up for you know, absolutely nothing and then trade

619
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Speaker 1: him for an asset like that. That right there alone

620
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Speaker 1: is just great process.

621
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Speaker 2: Yeah, great process, And we did get a lot more

622
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Speaker 2: at dominic Leon. Anybody else has the last few years

623
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: that fastball shapes and plus the slitherer has a fifty

624
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: percent with freight, Like he's probably gonna be in the

625
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: late ending mix for the Angels as they pushed towards

626
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. And could you imagine that, like Mike Traus

627
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: Show at times, Legacy is now gonna have like a

628
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 2: little bit of dominic Leon inside of it. Like that's amazing.

629
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Speaker 2: But cash money, dude, we got a pretty interesting prospect

630
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Speaker 2: someone I know John's very excited, but he's definitely gonna

631
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: talk about on future flushing. Jeremiah Jackson Again crazy we

632
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: got asked for him for free. Jackson was the second

633
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: round pick out of high school twenty eighteen, signed with

634
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: the Angels. Fifteen home runs and twenty one steals at

635
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: Double A this season. Seems like the romp power is

636
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: very legit, the hip tools not, though it definitely looks

637
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: like he was someone who seemed was probably pretty affected

638
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: by losing that year's development in COVID and also playing

639
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: with an organization that doesn't really develop prospects either, Like

640
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna hook them up to like blast censor.

641
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like whoa, You guys can see how hard.

642
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: That hit the ball swing crazy, that's where it hit

643
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: on the bat. That did feel like this sweet spot.

644
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 2: That was really cool. Like, you guys have cool machines

645
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: here Tho, it's gonna be cool for Jeremi Jackson to

646
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: come to an organization that's really committed to player development.

647
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Speaker 2: Have heard a lot of things with smart people this

648
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: week the baseball perspective, guys Ino Sarah's especially being like

649
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: the Mets getting these prospects is cool because they're getting

650
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: a lot of prospects, but also cool because there are

651
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: many teams in baseball as furiously invested in player development

652
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: right now, especially the last twenty four months as New

653
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: York Mets. A lot of smart people in a lot

654
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: of good places, a lot of technology coming in, a

655
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: lot of data being used. And now he's gonna be

656
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: this is gonna be kind of like if we do

657
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: if this works, like we're gonna see it, it's gonna

658
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: really work. It's gonna work for a long time if

659
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: we get a big hit rate in these guys, Like

660
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of fun for a while.

661
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: And just I can't even I can't even believe that

662
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: we're like to think about how many say this. A

663
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: lot of stuff came out over the last few days

664
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: about where the Mets direction is going to be in

665
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: the immediate future the rest of this year, especially twenty

666
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: twenty four, especially after an article came out where Max

667
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: Sus said a lot of things to Ken Rosenthal probably

668
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: even gave him this so security number because he told

669
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: him everything. But it does seem like based on the

670
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: money that's coming off the books next year, the corp

671
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: that's still in place and that core is still a

672
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: shortstop who five to six win player, a catcher is

673
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: going to be one of the best offensive catchers in

674
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: the league. A first base moves on track before you

675
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: home runs every single year. And the centerfielder was again

676
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: a clean for the five win player. Four high end

677
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: position players in place, Plenty more guys there, Koda Sango,

678
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: who now we've seen is a plus major league pitcher again,

679
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: the best closing in the league back from injury. Like,

680
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: you don't really need that much to make that team

681
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: an about five hundred team.

682
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, And we saw that with Cohen's comments as well,

683
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: because he went to Kansas City apparently had this trip

684
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: planned with Fratt Brothers. He was like hey, just works

685
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: out there such a plan in Kansas City.

686
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: Greg Wisman's oh, of course.

687
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: And he talked to the press and he said a

688
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: bunch of different things, like he's like, yeah, we knew,

689
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks ago we were going to sell.

690
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: He was like, but we want sustainability, and you mentioned

691
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: that earlier, Like that seems to be the big buzzword

692
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: right now is sustainability, sustainability, sustainability. And while the Mets,

693
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: like I applaud them for going for it like they

694
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: there's no doubt the Mets did not try to go

695
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: for it these last couple of seasons, especially in the

696
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: offseason with these big signings, but understanding that it did

697
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: not work out, and going to make a more sustainable

698
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: decision something that just feels really really good when we

699
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: know sometimes it doesn't always happen with teams. I mean

700
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: there's teams this trade deadline that should have made moves

701
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: and they didn't do anything. Yankees No.

702
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: Something else Steve Cohen says specifically, was like, and again

703
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: you could tell that Steve Cohen is all about the numbers.

704
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: That's how he lives his entire life. Is how he's

705
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: made billions smart, Like when we have like a twelve

706
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: thirteen percent chance to make the playoffs given the projections

707
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: that we had, these other teams around us were getting better,

708
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna sell off from our prospects and make

709
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: a twelve percent thirteen percent chance, like a twenty percent chance,

710
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: Like that's just not a winning investment. Like I know everyone,

711
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: and again we are Mets fans, like where you gotta

712
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: believe culture here, but at some point is like you

713
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: got to call the spade the spade. I'm like, I

714
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: am relieved that the Mets have again, like I said before,

715
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: put their foot in the ground and like done something holy,

716
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: like no half measures, shout out Mike German, trou no

717
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: half measures whatsoever. And like he didn't deny what Max

718
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: Scherzer said when he was asked straight up if they'd

719
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 2: be in free agent's like hardcore in twenty twenty four,

720
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 2: he said he couldn't give him a promise. But if

721
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: you look at twenty twenty four class compared to twenty

722
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: twenty five class, it looks a lot different. And again

723
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: now we're we're back. We're back in like old Met's

724
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: time where we're just looking at these free agent classes

725
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: years advantage, trying to like build out twenty twenty five lineup,

726
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: but twenty twenty four. Just name a few free agents

727
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: out there for you guys. Corbyn, Burns, wan So though,

728
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: Brandon woodriff Erra twenty five, twenty twenty five. Yeah, wan

729
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: So though, Brandon Woodriff, Corbyn Burns, Zack Wheeler, Garrett Cole,

730
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: Tyler Glass. Now that's pretty good.

731
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: Mix.

732
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four is still okay. You're still gonna have

733
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: while Aaron Nola, Julio, rius h. That's kind of it

734
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: for the high end guys. Yoshi Knew to say his name,

735
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: I can always mess up his name, Yoshi Nobu Yamamoto,

736
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: Yoshi Yoshi Nobu Yamamoto. Like there's gonna be exciting guys

737
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: and definitely guys who can help to build a sustainable winner.

738
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah Sho Tani two of course, which I don't know,

739
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: like a little thing in my mind. There's a lot

740
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: more money now, I don't know. I'm not guy counting

741
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: on anything. I don't think it was ever a high chance.

742
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: But he seems like he likes the West Coast. But

743
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: who knows, Like, who freaking knows what's going on here?

744
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 2: And does the other quote from Steve Cohen, I think

745
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: was helpful here. At some point we have to go

746
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: win two thirds of our games. We showed no consistently

747
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: along the way, so it would really be a stretch

748
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: to believe that something would change now. Yeah, and like

749
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: that's a pragmatist. That's a pragmatist. And you've got three

750
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: high end assets and a lot of other very exciting

751
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: assets for a team that hadn't shown any consistency this year.

752
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: To use one of my one of my high school

753
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: summer baseball coach's favorite saying of all time, the reality

754
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: of the situation is it was gonna be really really

755
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: difficult for the Mets to do anything right now, and

756
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: they were able to turn that negative into a positive

757
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: right now. And I think that's that's really big. It's

758
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt, it's gonna stink for a little bit,

759
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: like it doesn't feel great. But yeah, I think down

760
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: the road, this is gonna be the right decision. And

761
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be able to look back on

762
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: this and be like, wow, I was was pretty smart.

763
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: That was pretty shrewd.

764
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: Like you don't see a lot of teams make it

765
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: that way, And I do also like want to tell

766
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: Mets fans to that this again, like this is something

767
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: that I really think, from the bottom of my heart,

768
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: like was a good decision.

769
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: I do.

770
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the more realistic, pragmatic Mets

771
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: fans believe that as well. You see, you're seeing a

772
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: lot of crazy takes going online. You definitely know that

773
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: the tenor of Mets world is nuts when Mark Healy

774
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: is someone who's like really being a voice or reason

775
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: saying like this was, this was these were all good moves,

776
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: like preach patients like why are you guys leaning into

777
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: all this like awful talk of like embarrassment, disgrace all

778
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: this stuff, because that's not the case. Like sports are hard.

779
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes things don't work out, Like that's okay, that's part

780
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: of life. But you walk out your house to stub

781
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: your toe, You're not screaming like, oh I hate my toe,

782
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: I hate my deck. I can't believe this happened. You're like,

783
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: all right, let me just like walk it off a

784
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: little bit then keep moving on the rest of my day.

785
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: And you kind of felt that a lot of quotes

786
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: that Justin Verlander gave today his reintroductory press conference with

787
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: the Houston Astros. He said, I have nothing but the

788
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: utmost respect for the Mets in the organization, how they

789
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: treat their players A plus from top to bottom, so

790
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: bottom that includes us. Yeah, and anybody that would ask

791
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 2: me about the organization, if they had decision to make,

792
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: I would recommend the organization one hundred percent. And there

793
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: was another quote in the article about Steve Cohen's quotes

794
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: on the athletic whereabout like if they thought this would

795
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: affect anything for free agents to come here in the future,

796
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: And all the agent said was money talks exactly.

797
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: That's what I've been trying to tell everybody, is like,

798
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: as long as you pay the guys what they feel

799
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: like they're worth, everyone's happy to play anywhere. I think

800
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like, hey, you're gonna

801
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: pay me this amount of money that I feel like

802
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: I deserve and you agree, sounds good to me. I

803
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: will sign with you, no problem. Max Stuers are pitched

804
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: on a National League yeast rival for like the last

805
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: seven years. Came right here, no problem, yep, just because

806
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: he gave them with money. And then uh, and then

807
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: they did a lot of things to say when he left,

808
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: so very nice to hear Verlan and just speak so

809
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: highly of us and be like, so, you know, I

810
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: really seems like I have a guy. It just it

811
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: was nice to see him have those very kind words

812
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 1: to organization on the way out. But all this happens

813
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: in all together on Tuesday and led some very weird

814
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: vibes Tuesday night, as also in a week when Gary

815
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Co and high rosen on vacation the same time.

816
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: For those you got tough, it's been a few years

817
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: in a row. You guys have done that in unison.

818
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: Please please send each other your Google calendars please. We

819
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: got to separate on the night when the Mess organization

820
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: had the dramatic change and there was like all these

821
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: feelings going on, a lot of emotions swirling for all

822
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: of us MESS fans. We needed one of you guys.

823
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: We need the one of you guys so badly. Love

824
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: the work that Keith and Pat do and the radio

825
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: together and Keith Rad and Pat McCarthy and Keith Nandez

826
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: was in rare form on Tuesday night as well. But

827
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: I have either of you guys be able to pontificate

828
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: and like wax poetic about what's going on give like

829
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: the real takes that it definitely left a little more

830
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: to be desired. But yeah, yeah, just to thesies, biz, Yeah,

831
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't good. Don't really want to talk about much

832
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: more than the fact that we made like Cole Ragan's

833
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: look like Nolan Ryan.

834
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like, honestly, guys, truthfully, not gonna talk

835
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: too much about it. They got swept. Francis Squever has

836
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: had a big home run late in the game, and

837
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: uh we lost on a walk off block. That's pretty

838
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: much all I got for you, code, I sang a

839
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: pitch like okay. Despite they did mention one thing on

840
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: the broadcast, which was cool, where Senga talked, I guess

841
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: to maybe Michelle Margo or somebody about how UH learned

842
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: like pitching in America, the adjustments that he has had

843
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: to make that are outside of like how the actual

844
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: game is played, one being that during the summer, so

845
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: many games are outside, that the heat is just something

846
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: he's never really had to experience too often in Japan,

847
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: that it's it's very different, and that he's never really

848
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: had to pitch in like wet conditions. He's like, it's

849
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: mostly domed inside, it's mostly like controlled environments. He's like

850
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: so learning that we saw him kind of chiseling away

851
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: at his cleats with all the clay that was all

852
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: stuck up in there. So stuff that's just learning.

853
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: You know.

854
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Throughout the season we're gonna see with Code I, like

855
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: we told you. But still at the end of the day,

856
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: love Code I, Code ACE and uh yeah, Met's got swept.

857
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: That's pretty much it, all right, So we bring it

858
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: in John here for a little bit of estimate action.

859
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: John on the outside on the balcony again, how are

860
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: we feeling out there? It's a beautiful week in New

861
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: York of weather.

862
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: Beautiful week.

863
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: I've been a little ticked off with mother Nature recently.

864
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: I've just felt like it's been one extreme or the next,

865
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: and I feel like we've finally hit the happy medium

866
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: that I've been, uh I've been looking for.

867
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: So gotta take advantage of it while I.

868
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: Can before the next heat wave comes and I cannot

869
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: breathe outside in the unbearable heat.

870
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, very night, it's five to eleven right now.

871
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: This is this is the golden hour as far as

872
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: I'm concerned, But as far as estimate goes, Francisco Lindor

873
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: hit as dramatic a home run as you could hit.

874
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: I don't think Francisco new as he rounded the bases,

875
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: but we all knew that that home run pushed the

876
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: total bases between him and Bobby Wood Junior to fifteen.

877
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: So giraffe neck mark over there, Marcolino, another dub mark

878
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: goes up three as James just cannot But Jane, that's

879
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: that's tough one, James, that's a tough pill to swallow for.

880
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: Those two of the more than double their total basis

881
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 2: for the series. And and Thursday Mattine was really painful

882
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: for me. I thought, I honestly woke up until I

883
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: had locked up. I was really excited to cut the

884
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 2: lead into one.

885
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Again, that was your problem, that was your problem. I'm hot,

886
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: and when you're hot, you're hot. And right now I

887
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: just I'm pushing all the right buttons and I love

888
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: getting a little cushion in an estimate. It is a

889
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable feeling for me, not something I'm used to.

890
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: Well, we know what happened last year.

891
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: You know, you had what felt like an insurmountable lead

892
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: and then you wind up choking it away. So no

893
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: lead is safe an estimate. It only takes one to

894
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: turn things around. So here's our next one. Is the

895
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: Mets head to Baltimore for the weekend, a stadium that

896
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: looks a lot different than it did the last time

897
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: the Mets were in Baltimore. The Orioles made left field

898
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: pretty much unrecognizable at Camden Yards Andres Amenez hit his

899
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: first home run of his career. Actually the last time

900
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: the Mets went to Baltimore, this was in twenty twenty,

901
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: and if you go back and look at the home runs,

902
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: maybe nine feet off the ground, maybe travel three hundred

903
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: and sixty feet and it got out. I think Ariel

904
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: Girado pitching that series as well. Yes, memory serves correct,

905
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: with his neon glasses or rexpecs, right, that's what they're called,

906
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: respec Yeah, yeah, the rexpecs. So the Mets going to

907
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 4: Baltimore for the first time since that twenty twenty season,

908
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: and there was a great stat on ESPN Sunday Night

909
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: Baseball last Sunday, which, by the way, the first time

910
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 4: the Orioles had a Sunday night game since twenty eighteen.

911
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: Pretty crazy. Wow, But yeah, I think.

912
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: That there's been like five hundred and seventy something home

913
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: runs taken away balls. It would have been gone in

914
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 4: twenty nine other yards that were not gone at Camden

915
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: since they made the renovations, the changes to the dimensions

916
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: in left field.

917
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: So it's deep. I think it was an Aaron Judge thing,

918
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: if I'm being honest.

919
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: I think labor Torres too.

920
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: Laber Torres and Gary also hit a fair amount back

921
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 4: in the day. But yeah, so I want you guys

922
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: to tell me how many total home runs will be

923
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,479
Speaker 4: hitting this series. So we got the warehouse and play

924
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: don't hit the ball to left field because it's not

925
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: going out and then there won't be any dramatic Francisco

926
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: indoor home runs to clinch and estimate week for Mark.

927
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, how many total home runs hit this weekend

928
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: at Camden Yards between the Mets and Orioles.

929
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: Listen, I mean there might still be a dramatic home

930
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: run mix in there because Lindor if me and James

931
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: have been within one or two of each other every

932
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: single estimate on these arbitrary guesses that we make, and

933
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: we're very very close with each other. Three game series

934
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, what are the pitching matchups dreams? Do you

935
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: have in by any chance, I have been one moment.

936
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just absolute and off. Jack Flair came

937
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: out Baltimore debut today as they failed seven fastest throwing

938
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: pitch of the year in eighteen swings and miss is

939
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: still in the game in the seventh inning with Kevin Goussman,

940
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: so he's really fixed. It's unbelievable. I mentioned it the

941
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: other day when Mark and I were doing our stream

942
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: for the trade deadline. But the Baltimore Oriels right now

943
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: are baseball Nirvana. Everything they touched turns to gold like

944
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: they are with every single baseball fan wants their team

945
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: to become. They can do no wrong whatsoever. Pitching matchups

946
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: this series definitely definitely some potential for the long ball.

947
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 2: Friday seven o'clock also is getting very human in Baltimore

948
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: when August and Baltimore is always very nice to climate.

949
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: David Peterson versus Dean Kramer. Saturday seven o'clock ms My

950
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: Boy Dan Saturday John's Boy, Tyler McGill versus Kyle Gibson

951
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: My Boy, and then Sunday Afternoon Posey and Tona versus

952
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: also my Boy Kyle Bravish.

953
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: Okay so a lot, a lot of interesting matchups there.

954
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my number. I got my number for

955
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: the home runs.

956
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 2: Chattou Cooper for the you two watchers, Yes, get Cooper.

957
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: There is there.

958
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: He is.

959
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: Left out with us, uh your new baby daughter in

960
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: the mix.

961
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: Oh good question.

962
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: Oh he At first he paid her no attention. He

963
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: was just like, what is this thing? Now?

964
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: He's now, he's down. He's been licking, he's been protecting,

965
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: giving her some kisses. She's been like kind of putting

966
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 4: her hand on him, which is the most heartwarming thing possible.

967
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: So Cooper is a good boy. He's a good boy.

968
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: He's a good older brother. Right, Cooper kiss.

969
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: Please keep that in Vito, please keep that in the video.

970
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: Please. But I got my number.

971
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: I got my number. Two John counts down.

972
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: All right, here we go three, two, one, six, ooh okay, nice?

973
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: Well seven?

974
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Mark Draftnick Mark with eight. James going with six. Seven,

975
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: that's a win for me. Still, anything that keeps James

976
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: a little bit further away is a double tie.

977
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: Almost at seven. I went that six last second. I

978
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: was a mistake, all.

979
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Right, James. Let's go ahead and preview those Baltimore orioles.

980
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: He gave us the pitching matchups already. Now let's go

981
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: ahead and talk about this team, because they are not

982
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: the same Orioles that we last played. There are a

983
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: very very good team and like you said, a well

984
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: oiled machine baseball nirvana. They're approaching it right now.

985
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't think they're aproaching it. There in

986
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: it they just got I think I want to get

987
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: the final number right now because I think he finally

988
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: just left the game, But Jack Flair, the's Baltimore Orioles debut,

989
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: he threw his fastest pitch of the year, like I

990
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: just mentioned, and now these game's over. Nineteen West out

991
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: dul Kevin Gasman has been like the best pitcher in

992
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: baseball all year.

993
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: There needs to be a real conversation about what the

994
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals are doing wrong. By the way, maybe we won't

995
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: do it on this podcast. We'll talk about another time.

996
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: But they have now gotten rid of a lot of

997
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: guys who have immediately gotten significantly better, a lot of

998
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: outfielder's the name a few. Now. Jack Flaherty, a guy

999
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: who was probably one of the more overrated pitchers in

1000
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: the league while on the Cardinals, goes to an organization

1001
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: that's competent and just has the best start of his career, probably.

1002
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Since the famous run of twenty nineteen. Of course, yeah, okay,

1003
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: that's fair. Yeah, the compass is not doing the Oriols justice.

1004
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: So again, I'll say it again. I love this quote.

1005
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to this a lot, and I'm gonna send

1006
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: to the round and I know someone is definitely going

1007
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: to steal it and pretends to their idea. But this

1008
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: team is baseball Nirvana. They are able to take a

1009
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: guy like Shataro Fujinami, who by all accounts wasn't even

1010
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: a major league pitcher. He was walking like seven guys

1011
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: seven guys per nine innings with a nine ERA, and

1012
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: in less than like less than four days he is

1013
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: a lights out reliever in the back end of their bullpen.

1014
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: Jack Flairley was traced the Baltimore Orioles at the deadline,

1015
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: so less than forty eight hours before, for forty four

1016
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: hours before his first start with the team, and he

1017
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: steamrolled a really good Blue Jay's lineup, but through his

1018
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: fastest pitch of the season. That that means that they

1019
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: fixed him in like one session. I wouldn't say fixed him.

1020
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: We don't know what's gonna happen, but like how, like

1021
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: what is going on? Like how could you possibly doing this?

1022
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: And we talked about Flairy a little bit on the stream,

1023
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: shouted all you guys that were in that stream, markt.

1024
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun on there. That was

1025
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: It was just just a really good day of talking

1026
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: about baseball, a lot a lot of stuff talk about

1027
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: Flairley had gone through most of this year throwing Oh

1028
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: what did I just come on?

1029
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: Come on, update what you do do?

1030
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: I just clicked season? Then he game the full career,

1031
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 2: in the full career, when you go game by as

1032
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: it's a lot to look at chaos. But in one

1033
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: game here he threw most colors he's thrown to start

1034
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: over the last month, his most curve balls he's thrown

1035
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: to start since April, and his least forcing fastballs besides

1036
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: one of their starts this year. And he threw a

1037
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: forcing fastball hard on the house all year. So they

1038
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: may they could like identify these little changes, make them

1039
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: tell him they probably fixed. Like one thing with his footwork,

1040
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: he got two like an extra mile and a half

1041
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: hour fastball, like hours on his fastball, like it like

1042
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: when you hit this point again, if baseball there, Vonda,

1043
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: it really is that easy, Like it is like, look

1044
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: at the rate of the race. Jake Deacon is like

1045
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: one of the best relievers in baseball right now. The

1046
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: only people who believe in him are you and I

1047
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: like with what's going on? You yeah, like that's it,

1048
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: like that was our boy. But they are a really, really,

1049
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: really fun team led by Adley Rushman, Gunner Henderson. This

1050
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: crops exciting young players. Jordan Westbrook, Culton Cows are some

1051
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: other high draft picks that are on that team now.

1052
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: Anthony sontend there is still one of the most fun

1053
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: power hitters in baseball. Even Ryan mountcaz as someone who

1054
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: was elite, they built a wall, kind of ruined his

1055
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: whole career. He's still yeah, still these are good. My

1056
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: favorite middle infielder Adams having a good season back there.

1057
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: Austin Hayden for power, I know, it's ridiculous. Ryan O'Hearn, Guys,

1058
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: Ryan O'Hearn has like it's like four average since joining

1059
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: the Orioles.

1060
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: He's hitting clean up team, the team with the best

1061
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: record in baseball. This team is ah, They're a lot

1062
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: of fun. They're really really good. We got to catch them.

1063
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: At the end of last year when the Astros were

1064
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: in town going to framber Valdez pitching in that one

1065
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: against I don't remember who's pitching for the Oriols that day.

1066
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: Do you remember buy any chance at that game we

1067
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: were at I feel I feel like it might have

1068
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: been I think it might have been Dean Kramer.

1069
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: I think it was Deans like but but even at

1070
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: that time, they were of the hottest teams in baseball,

1071
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: and that when fraanber Valdez was on like what the

1072
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: twenty straight consecutive start quality start streak and they broke it,

1073
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: we were there.

1074
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean like they have a filthy bullpen too.

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Speaker 1: Their starting rotation is I would say their weak point

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Speaker 1: for sure. Like if you had to pick a spot

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Speaker 1: on their team where their weakness was, it would be

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00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: their starting rotation. Like Dean Kramer, Kyle Gibson, all those

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00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: guys are extremely hitable. You're guy Kyle Bradish great, I'll

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Speaker 1: let you talk about him here in a second. But

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Speaker 1: their bullpen is phenomenal. Felix Bautista is the best reliever

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00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: in baseball right now. Probably he's absolutely disgusting. James was

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00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: all over that years Ago I had.

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Speaker 2: I told Mark the Phelix Patize was gonna best reliever

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00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: in baseball in April twenty twenty. He was like, what

1086
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: are you talking about? And he watched him three times.

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00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: He was like, that's that's kind of scary. Shout out

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00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: your boy. Bengal Tooho told me I was nitty as well.

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00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't know ball, but Phelix Bautista has the most

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00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: the best fastball that we like basically ever tracked and

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00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: pitch tracking because he's a hulking menace on the mound

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00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: and his release points incredibly high with that really really

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00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: flat proch angle, and the pitch is so you really

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00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: don't see something. A term that we use a lot

1095
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: is about heavy fastball, Like you don't really see many

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00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: heavy fastballs to live high in the zone like that.

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00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 2: He has a heavy fastball that rises. It's it's really unhitable.

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00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: You guys gonna watch this week and you're like, I

1099
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: can't believe that's real. And even even Yan your Canoe,

1100
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: they pulled the in your Cano and the Jorge Lopez

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00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: trade last year trade that the Oils were crucified for

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00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: by the National Baseball media. Trading someone who was at

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00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: the time their second or third best reliever. For a

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00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: guy who now is one of the ten best relievers

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Speaker 2: in baseball. His sinker is like one of the most

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00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: unique pitches in the league with how much fad it

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00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: has on it and drop at the miles now he

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00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: throws at that, it's it's really marvelous. It's really amazing

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Speaker 2: what they're able to do with these guys back here.

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Speaker 2: I love the Orioles like they They've become my American

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00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: League team. I watched them a lot of days a week.

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Speaker 2: They're so much fun. They love being outd they love

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00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 2: playing ball. Another big reason I love watching the Orioles

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00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: is because when out of every five days, I get

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00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: my boy Kyle bradish out there, I've been I've been

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00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: waiting for the Kyle Bradsge breakthrough for years. Bradigh is

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00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: one of the best sliders in baseball in terms of

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00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: moving profile and velocity. His curve balls come along in

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00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: a big way this year, and it's this fastball is

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Speaker 2: just being thrown hard enough, like ninety five ninety six

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Speaker 2: miles an hour to get by Hithers. He's like, people

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00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: are gonna kill me for this. He's like, if Max

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Speaker 2: Streed was better. That's it, Okay, Yeah, that's what he is.

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Speaker 2: That's what he is. He is because I've been I've

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Speaker 2: been a low min of Max Freed for many years now.

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Speaker 2: But Bradish has two incredible off speed pitches and they've

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00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: they've done so well, help them develop that fastball to

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Speaker 2: get to a point where it's even league average. And

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Speaker 2: even having a league average fastball with two completely disgusting

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00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: breaking balls, it's crazy. And he's a dog. You remember

1131
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: last year when Aaron judges on his home run pursuit

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00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: and they were giving him every single call. Bradish was

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00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: snapping his glove, yelling at the umpire and they got

1134
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: judging the dribbler and he looked back and he like

1135
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: pounded Chessie screamed, so you're gonna get that I actual strikes.

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Speaker 2: I'm still gonnaet him. I don't even care like he

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00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: wants it. He's a badass. He's gonna here's an outside

1138
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: chance he's starting Game one for them in a playoff series.

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Speaker 2: Like I yeah, I really love calb Bravish. I tweet

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Speaker 2: about him all the time. He's my boy.

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Speaker 1: Now they're they're an awesome team, a really fun way

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00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: to look at how an organization was built, because I mean,

1143
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: they were so insanely bad, so insanely bad for a

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00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: few years, but they've been able to turn around quickly.

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00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: They've been able to turn around with homegrown talent, and

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Speaker 1: they're only going to get better. They haven't spent any

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00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: money yet. Haven't spent any money yet. This is where

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Speaker 1: you start to get scary with this Baltimore Orioles team.

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00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: And we're seeing formal met James mccannon back as well.

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00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: We'll get to see him probably taking that bat or

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00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 1: two during this weekend, so we'll see how it goes.

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00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be tough. The Oriols are really

1153
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: really good, but go out play some good baseball. Shock

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00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: the world, shock the nation. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean the twenty twenty two Mess and twenty twenty

1156
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: three Oriols both have amazing seasons. They had one thing

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00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: in common, James McCann. James McCann James mcann's secret to

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00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: winning baseball. I said, we always always knew him. We

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Speaker 2: couldn't see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it was. That was the issue. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: for listening, watching. Follow James on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: At James Underscore Ciano.

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Speaker 1: guys after the Oril series.

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Speaker 2: Peace Out, peace out, See you guys next time.