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Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff you should know a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the Spectacular. I'm Josh, and there's

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Speaker 2: Chuck and Jerry, the Ghoul Jerome Roland is here and

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Speaker 2: we're about to get jiggy with it Halloween style.

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Speaker 1: That's right. It's one of our favorite episodes of the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we like to remind everyone. This is one of two

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Speaker 1: ad free episodes we do every year, that's right. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like lately we have been just sort of

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Speaker 1: for the uninitiated, giving a quick overview of what we

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Speaker 1: do here on Halloween, and that is we read a

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Speaker 1: couple of public domain scary stories short stories from now

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Speaker 1: we're up to nineteen twenty eight and previous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think so, maybe nineteen twenty seven one

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Speaker 2: of the two.

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Speaker 1: These aren't even that I think these Mine was from

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Speaker 1: before that, even though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not even close to the line right now.

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Speaker 1: No, we don't want to get litigious for anyone to

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Speaker 1: get litigious with us. So that's right, we're not even

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Speaker 1: dancing close to the line.

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Speaker 2: If you have no idea what we're talking about goes

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Speaker 2: into our intellectual property episode. It basically explains our Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Episode that's right, but we you know, Josh picks one out,

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Speaker 1: I pick one out. It has become very fun in

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Speaker 1: recent years as Josh has gotten more creative with his

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Speaker 1: voice work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually really kind of nervous because it's a

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Speaker 2: tough act to follow, and I thought, well, I'll just

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Speaker 2: bring Megl back, and I have been summoning Megal's spirit

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Speaker 2: to take over my body again.

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Speaker 1: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, I've done so many unspeakable acts as offerings to

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Speaker 2: bring meg back. And basically I'm like Emma Roberts at

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Speaker 2: the end of Black Coat's Daughter, just screaming and frustration

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Speaker 2: because I can't get possessed again. So I'm sorry everyone,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Megl's going to be here this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Emma Roberts at the end of Black

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Speaker 1: Coat's Daughter, screaming like everyone in the theater. I don't

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Speaker 1: even look that much like that other girl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a rather serious transition.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was just me though, But I know what

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Speaker 1: you mean. It seems like there's nowhere to go but

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Speaker 1: down after Megle. I mean, that was an a Josh

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Speaker 1: apex for sure.

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Speaker 2: So I guess that maybe we'll just call this episode

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Speaker 2: a wash I won't even try, and we'll get back

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Speaker 2: to business again next year. How about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds great. And you know, I actually did

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Speaker 1: a little road testing of some different British accents, but

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going to come out of

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Speaker 1: my mouth or yours, and that it's not going to

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Speaker 1: be as rehearsed.

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Speaker 3: I've learned to speak German, right, Really, no, I had

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Speaker 3: to say.

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Speaker 2: If I had, I would not have told you or

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Speaker 2: anybody else ahead of time. Just now. I would have

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Speaker 2: just started speaking German.

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Speaker 3: That would have been amazing, it would have been.

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Speaker 2: But this episode's a wash this year, so I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to be speaking German either.

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Speaker 1: Which one do you want to start with? You want

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Speaker 1: to do yours or mine? I think they're both terrific.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've got no persuasion either way, or

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Speaker 2: I'm not being persuaded either way. Is there any of

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Speaker 2: the two that you feel even remotely more like should

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Speaker 2: go first?

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Speaker 1: You know, for some reason, instinctually, I just want to

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Speaker 1: pick up yours.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the gripping and spooky and a good

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Speaker 1: place setter, and it's you know, it's HG. Wells, It's

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Speaker 1: a classic author.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's dig into yours, okay.

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Speaker 2: HG.

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Speaker 1: Wells trying to remember my parts though.

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Speaker 2: So you are the old man with the shade on

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's the one that walks in last right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then the old lady. Oh perfect, okay, And

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Speaker 2: this is HG. Wells, everybody, the guy who predicted our

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Speaker 2: current rocket program with NASA and wrote the time Machine

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Speaker 2: and did all sorts of really neat stuff. He also

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Speaker 2: wrote a scary story. And that's what we're going to

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Speaker 2: read now. It's called The Red Room. So Chuck, how

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Speaker 2: about you narrate first? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the reading of The

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Speaker 3: Red Room by H. G. Wells.

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Speaker 2: No I meant in the story?

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Speaker 1: Oh oh oh yeah, sure, I didn't know what you meant.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what narration?

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Speaker 2: Youre?

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Speaker 1: You talking about your reading?

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Speaker 2: You're like, all right, don't give it a try. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Sure, but but you're you're playing the main guys. You're

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Speaker 2: I can assure you, said I that it will take

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Speaker 2: a very tangible ghost to frighten me.

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Speaker 1: And I stood up before the fire with my glass

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Speaker 2: It is your own choosing.

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Speaker 1: Said the man with the withered arm.

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Speaker 2: I want to take that again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's your own choosy, said the man with a

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Speaker 2: Eight and twenty years, said I I have lived, and

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Speaker 2: never a ghost have I seen. As yet.

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Speaker 1: The old woman sat staring hard into the fire, her

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Speaker 3: Iye, she broke.

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Speaker 4: In, and eighty and twenty years, you have lived and

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Speaker 4: never seen the likes of this house, I reckon. There's

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Speaker 4: a many things to see when one's still but eight

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Speaker 1: She's she's making fun of this guy for being twenty

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Speaker 1: eight years old. Yeah, she swayed her head slowly from

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Speaker 1: I half suspected the old people were trying to enhance

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Speaker 1: the spiritual terrors of their house by their droning insistence.

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Speaker 1: I put down my empty glass on the table and

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Speaker 1: abbreviated and broadened to an impossible sturdiness in the queer

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Speaker 2: Well, I said, if I see anything tonight, I shall

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Speaker 2: be much the wiser before I come to the business

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Speaker 2: with an open mind. I'm so disappointed with myself this year.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, yeah, it's me is your.

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Speaker 1: Choosing, said the man with a withered arm. Once more,

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Speaker 1: I heard the faint sound of a stick and a

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Speaker 5: I said it to your own choosing.

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Speaker 1: Said the man with a withered hand, when the coughing

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Speaker 3: It's my own choosing, I answered.

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Speaker 1: The man with the shade became aware of my presence

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Speaker 5: Why did you drink?

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Speaker 1: Said the man with a withered arm, pushing the beer

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Speaker 1: grotesque custodians. There is to my mind something inhuman, insinility,

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Speaker 1: something crouching and atavistic. The human quality seemed to drop

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Speaker 1: from old people insensibly. Day by day, the three of

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Speaker 1: And that night, perhaps I was in the mood for

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable impressions. I resolved to get away from their vague

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Speaker 3: So ageous, very ageist.

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Speaker 1: If said I.

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Speaker 2: I will show me to this haunted room of yours.

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Speaker 2: I will make myself comfortable there.

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Speaker 1: The old man, with a cough, jerked his head back

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Speaker 1: so suddenly that it startled me, and shot another glance

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Speaker 1: waited a minute, glancing from one to the other. The

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Speaker 2: If you will show me to this haunted room of yours,

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Speaker 2: I will relieve you from the task of entertaining me.

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Speaker 5: There's a cannon on the slab outside.

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Speaker 1: The door, said the man, with a withered hand, looking

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Speaker 5: If you go to the red room tonight.

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Speaker 1: This night of all nights, said the old woman softly.

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Speaker 1: You go alone, very well, I answered shortly, And.

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Speaker 2: Which way do I go? This guy's sick of the

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Speaker 2: old people by now. He's just satically mad at.

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Speaker 1: Them, he is. He's being very aggressive.

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Speaker 5: You go along the passage for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Said he, nodding his head on his shoulder at the door.

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Speaker 2: Until you come to a spiral stircase. And on the

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Speaker 2: second landing is a door covered with green baize. Go

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Speaker 2: the red room is on your left, up the steps.

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Speaker 1: Have I got that right, I said, and repeated his directions.

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Speaker 1: He corrected me in one particular. And are you really going,

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Speaker 1: said the man with the shade, looking at me again

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Speaker 1: for the third time with that queer, unnatural tilting.

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Speaker 3: Of the face.

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Speaker 1: This night of all nights, whispered the old woman.

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Speaker 2: It is what I came for.

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Speaker 1: I said, and moved toward the door. As I did so,

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Speaker 1: the old man with the shade rose and staggered round

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Speaker 1: and to the fire at the door. I turned and

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Speaker 1: looked at them, and saw they were all close together,

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Speaker 1: dark against the firelight, staring at me over their shoulders,

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Speaker 1: with an intent expression on their ancient faces.

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Speaker 3: Good night, I said, setting the door open.

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Speaker 1: It's yourn't choosing, said the man with a withered arm.

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Speaker 1: All right, so as we like to do little recap.

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Speaker 1: This guy has come to this spooky place, and there

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Speaker 1: are three olds there. And this guy didn't like olds.

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Speaker 2: No, he doesn't like them, and they don't seem to

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Speaker 2: like him very much. I think they also are taking

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Speaker 2: him as foolish over the cavalier and getting himself into

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Speaker 2: hot water.

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Speaker 1: To put it mildly, Yeah, because he wants to spend

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Speaker 1: the night in this room that we don't even know

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Speaker 1: anything about. But I'm already scared.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a scary room that you would not want

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Speaker 2: to go into. They're kind of half talking about of it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, maybe a quarter.

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Speaker 2: That's what I got, too, Like what they used to

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Speaker 2: The effect was scarcely what I expected for. The moonlight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a Ganny Meat and eagle was just like

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Speaker 2: But the shadow was super scary.

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Speaker 2: he had begun his dying, For he had opened the

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Speaker 2: That had been the end of his vigil, of his

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Speaker 2: gallant attempt to conquer the ghostly tradition of the place,

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Speaker 2: And never I thought, had apoplexy better served the ends

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Speaker 2: of superstition. There were other older stories that clung to

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Speaker 2: the room, back to the half incredible beginning of it all,

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Speaker 2: the tale of a timid wife and the tragic end

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Speaker 2: that came to her husband's chest of frightening her. And

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Speaker 1: All right, So, like a lot of these stories, you

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Speaker 2: On pretty much what he's doing here, I would.

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Speaker 1: Say, Yeah, so he got this guy, he's going to

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Speaker 2: I think he. I get the impression, who's trying to

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Speaker 3: Maybe okay, either one.

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Speaker 1: And then this whole thing was haunted though by a woman.

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Speaker 2: That's what I took it as.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, not a nice guy.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that, guys, No, it wasn't jest.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he regretted it pretty deeply afterward if he

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Speaker 1: Yes? It feels like a switcher roo me, I think

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Speaker 1: I must confess some impalpable quality of that ancient room

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Speaker 1: After satisfying myself of the fastening of the door, I

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Speaker 1: to make sure it was locked, like eight times. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying to bring as much light as possible

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's looking at He's like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: But I desisted before reaching the alcove. I saw my

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Speaker 3: I mean, what color do you think he was?

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Speaker 2: I think he might have kale is a sheet kind

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Speaker 1: My mind, however, was perfectly clear. I postulated quite unreservedly

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Speaker 3: Of the place.

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Speaker 1: A few I spoke aloud, but the echoes were not pleasant.

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Speaker 1: so he's like doing the uh oh, I'm not scared

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Speaker 2: It and Ingldsby apparently wrote legends and laws and stuff

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Speaker 3: I guess, okay, that's a name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah ready, yep, I am too. The somber reds and

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Speaker 2: the place was merely dim. The light in the alcove

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Speaker 2: Ha ha. The room was now quite brightly illuminated. There

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Speaker 2: streaming flames, and to notice their steady diminution of length

440
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: offered me an occupation and gave me a reassuring sense

441
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: of the passage of time.

442
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: Can you imagine what a like Now you go into

443
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: a scary room, you just turn on all those lights exactly.

444
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: This took twenty minutes to do it back then right.

445
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: And also he's like, so trying to make time pass

446
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: that he's staring at candles melting. Yeah, that's reassuring. That's

447
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: how it kind of up an arms.

448
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: He is. Yeah. Good times.

449
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: Even with that, however, the brooining expectation of the vigil

450
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: weighed heavily upon me. I stood watching the minute hand

451
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: of my watch creep toward midnight. Then something happened in

452
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: the alcove. I did not see the candle go out.

453
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: I simply turned and saw that the darkness was there,

454
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: as one might start and see the unexpected presence of

455
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 2: a stranger. The black shadow had sprung back to its place.

456
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: By Jove said, I allowed, recovering from my surprise that

457
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: drafts a strong one, and taking the match box from

458
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: the table, I walked across the room in a leisurely

459
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 2: manner to relight the corner.

460
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: Again.

461
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: I get the impression that was a forced leisurely manner,

462
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: don't you.

463
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like, oh, I'm fine, everybody.

464
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: My first match would not strike, and as I succeeded

465
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: with the second, something seemed to blink on the wall

466
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: before me. I turned my head involuntarily and saw that

467
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: the two candles on the little table by the fireplace

468
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: were extinguished. I rose at once to my feet ahed,

469
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: I said, did I do that myself? In a flash

470
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: of absent mindedness, I walked back ReLit one, and as

471
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: I did so, I saw the candle in the right

472
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: scance of one of the mere's wink and go right out,

473
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: and almost immediately its companion followed it. The flames vanished,

474
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 2: as if the wick had been suddenly nipped between a

475
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: finger and thumb, leaving the wick neither glowing nor smoking,

476
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: but black. While I stood gaping, the candle at the

477
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: foot of the bed went out, and the shadows seemed

478
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 2: to take an stepped toward me.

479
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: For the record, I think that a little bit with

480
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: the candle going out but no smoke or no glow,

481
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: that's like, I think that's legit. The scariest line in

482
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: this thing.

483
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a really good little little thing, little

484
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: nice details detail, That's what I was after. This won't do,

485
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: said I in first one and then another candle on

486
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: the mantle shelf followed. What's up? I cried with a

487
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: queer high note. Sorry, what's up? I cried with a

488
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: queer high note, getting into my voice somehow at that

489
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: the candle on the corner of the wardrobe went out,

490
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: and the one I had reltt and the alcove followed

491
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: steady on. I said, those candles are wanted, speaking with

492
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: a half hysterical facetiousness, and scratching away to match, though

493
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: all the while for the mantle candlesticks, my hands trembled

494
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: so much that twice I missed the rough paper of

495
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: the matchbox. As the mantle emerged from darkness again, two

496
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: candles in the remoter and the room where eclipsed, but

497
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: with the same match. I also ReLit the larger mirror

498
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: candles and those on the floor near the doorway, so

499
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: that for a moment I seemed to gain on the extinctions.

500
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: But then in a noiseless volley, there vanished four lights

501
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: at once in different corners of the room, and I

502
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: struck another match in a quivering haste, and stood hesitating.

503
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: Whether to take it.

504
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: This is really scary. At this point, I can picture

505
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: this happening.

506
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, think about it. The whole reason he

507
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: went and gathered seventeen candles because he didn't want any

508
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: darkness in there, And now something, it seems as is

509
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: extinguishing these candles all over the room while he's trying

510
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: to get them re lit. I would be flipping out

511
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: at this point.

512
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that one little detail too, H wells good writer.

513
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: When he's trying to strike the match, but he's on

514
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: the smooth part of the box. That's good stuff.

515
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's been there.

516
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: Uh switch through?

517
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think switch roof for sure?

518
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 5: All right.

519
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: As I stood undecided, an invisible hand seemed to sweep

520
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: out the two candles on the table with a cry

521
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: of terror. I dashed at the alcove.

522
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: You can do the cry of tear, then into the.

523
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: Cry of terror.

524
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: Oh goodness, then into the corner, and then into the window,

525
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: relighting three as two more vanished by the fireplace, and

526
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: then perceiving a better way, I dropped matches on the

527
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: iron bound deed box in the corner and caught up

528
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: the bedroom candlestick. I don't what is he doing there.

529
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't quite follow that he has he's basically forgotten

530
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: the matches. Now he's just gonna like use a candle.

531
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: Though, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that'ld move With this, I

532
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: avoided the delay of okay, I just should have kept

533
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: breathing with this. I avoided the delay of striking matches.

534
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: But for all that, the steady process of extinction went on,

535
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: and the shadows I feared and fought against returned and

536
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: crept in upon me. First a step gained on this

537
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: side of me, then on that. I was now almost

538
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: frantic with the horror of the coming darkness, and my

539
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: self possession deserted me. I leaped, panting from candle to cantle,

540
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: in a vain struggle against that remorseless advance. Nice I

541
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: bruised myself in the thigh against the table, I sent

542
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: a chair headlong. I stumbled and fell, and whisked the

543
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: cloth from the table in my fall.

544
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: It's got's like at three stitches.

545
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: My candle rolled away from me, and I snatched another

546
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: as I rose abruptly. This was blown out as I

547
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: swung it off the table by the wind of my

548
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: sudden movement, and immediately the two remaining candles followed. But

549
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: there was light still in the room, a red light

550
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: that streamed across the ceiling and staved off the shadows

551
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: from the fire. Of course, I could still thrust my

552
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: candle between the bars and relight it. I turned to

553
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: where the flames were still dancing between the glowing coals

554
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: and splashing red reflections upon the furniture, made two steps

555
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: toward the grate, and incontinent, incontinently, Yeah, did.

556
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: You poop themself?

557
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: Or peeded one of the two?

558
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: Okay?

559
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: And incontinently the flames dwindled and vanished, the glow vanished,

560
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: the reflections rushed together and disappeared. And as I thrust

561
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: the candle between the bars, darkness closed upon me, like

562
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: the shutting of an eye, wrapping around me in a

563
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: stifling embrace, sealed my vision and crushed the last vestiges

564
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: of self possession from my brain. And it was not

565
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: only palpable darkness, but intolerable terror. The candle fell from

566
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: my hands. I flung out my arms in a vain

567
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: effort to thrust that ponderous blackness away from me, and,

568
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: lifting up my voice, screamed with all of my might, once, twice, thrice.

569
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 6: Ah ah ah.

570
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: Then I think I must have staggered to my feet.

571
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: I know, I thought suddenly of the moonlit corridor, and

572
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: with my my head bowed on my arms over my face,

573
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: made a stumbling run for the door. But I had

574
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: forgotten the exact position of the door, and I struck

575
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: myself heavily against the corner of the bed. I staggered back,

576
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: turned and was either struck or struck myself against some

577
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: other bulky furnishing. I have a vague memory of battering

578
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: myself thus to and fro in the darkness of a

579
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: heavy blow at last up on my forehead, of a

580
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: horrible sensation of falling that lasted an age of my

581
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: last frantic effort to keep my footing.

582
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: And then I remember no more.

583
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: Boy, that's some good folly work right there, my friend,

584
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Thank you.

585
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: I've been I would say I was practicing, but it

586
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: is all to soft.

587
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 3: The cuff, all right.

588
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: So this guy a key detail there is like I

589
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: was either struck myself or was struck and like that's

590
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: a key detail, bro for sure.

591
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: But for all intents and purposes, it does not matter

592
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: at this point because he's been knocked out. And frankly,

593
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: I think we have a little bit of detail about

594
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: what happened to that earl, that count who fell headlong

595
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: out of the door.

596
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: Right yeah, I think I see where this is headed.

597
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: Ready, I'm taking it home, Take it home, baby.

598
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: I opened my eyes in daylight. My head was roughly bandaged,

599
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: and the man with the withered hand was watching my face.

600
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: I looked about me, trying to remember what had happened,

601
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: and for a space I could not recollect. I rolled

602
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: my eyes into the corner and saw the old woman,

603
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: no longer abstracted, no longer terrible, pouring out some drops

604
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: of medicine from a little blue file into a glass.

605
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: Where am I? I said, I seem to remember you,

606
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: and yet I cannot remember who you are. They told

607
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: me then, And I heard of the haunted room as

608
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: one hears a tale. Let's see, I think this is

609
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: the old man with the withered arm. Yeah, we found

610
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: you at dawn, said he. And there was blood on

611
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: your forehead and lips. I wondered that I had ever

612
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: disliked him. The three of them in the daylight seemed commonplace,

613
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: old folk enough. The man with the green shade had

614
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: his head been as one who sleeps. It was very

615
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: slowly I recovered the memory of my experience. You believe now,

616
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: said the old man with the withered hand, that the

617
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: room is haunted. He spoke no longer as one who

618
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: greets an intruder, but is one who condoles with the friend. Yes,

619
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: said I, the room is haunted, and you have seen it,

620
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: and we who have been here all alives, have never

621
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: set eyes upon it, because we have never dared TuS.

622
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: Is it truly the old earl who no, said I

623
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: it is not, I told you show, said the old

624
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: lady with the glass in her hand.

625
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: It is his poor young countess who is fright.

626
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: It is not, I said. There is neither ghost of

627
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: earl nor ghost of countess in that room. There is

628
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: no ghost there at all, but worse, far worse, something impalpable.

629
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: Well, not bad, Yeah, the.

630
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: Worst of all the things that haunt poor mortal men,

631
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: said I. And that is in all its nakedness, fear, fear.

632
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: It will not have light nor sound, that will not

633
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: bear with reason, that deafens and darkens and overwhelms. It

634
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: followed me through the corridor. It fought against me. In

635
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: the room. I stopped abruptly. There was an interval of silence.

636
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: My hand went up to my bandages. The candles went out,

637
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: one after another, and I fled. Then the man with

638
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: the shade lifted his face sideways to see me and spoke,

639
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: that is it, said he.

640
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: I knew that was yet a power of darkness? Is

641
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: he Sean Connery.

642
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: Sean Conry and James Earl Jones had a baby. And

643
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: this guy's it.

644
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: A power of darkness to put such a curse upon

645
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: a home. It looks they're always You can feel it,

646
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: even in the daytime, even of a bright summer's day,

647
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: and the hangings curtains keeping behind you. However you face

648
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: about in the dusk, it creeps in the corridor and

649
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: follows you so that you dare not turn. It is

650
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: even as you say, fear itself is in that room,

651
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: black fear, and there it will be so long is

652
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: this house of sin indoors? Wowsy wows or wowser?

653
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: You really finished that in grand style. Man, that was great.

654
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: Stuff, Thanks dude, Man HG.

655
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: Wells. That is no wonder he was a popular writer.

656
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: That's good stuff.

657
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Still is popular. We just brought him back, buddy. Yeah,

658
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: so I guess we should take a message break.

659
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 3: Huh No, No, not for how to We Eat?

660
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: That never gets old for me. I think I say

661
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: that every year. Yeah, I love it, so, yeah, I

662
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: guess then we'll move on to the next one. This

663
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: is your right.

664
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. This is called the Misanthrope by J. D. Beresford.

665
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: And you'll see what's going on here? Got to do

666
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: with a lot of these stories are the same. I

667
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, horror writing back then, these short stories

668
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: often had to do with people investigating some creepy place

669
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: where something creepy had happened, or maybe that's all horror.

670
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: Movie, and they were usually approaching it from like a

671
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: rational mind, and they end up like being proven that

672
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: there's something worse there, and yeah, it's good stuff.

673
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: All right, it works.

674
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: So what am I doing again?

675
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm the visitor to the island and the boatman and

676
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: you're the.

677
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 3: Herm Okay, that's right, right? Why do we bother working

678
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: this out?

679
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

680
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: I always forget all right, here we go.

681
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Everybody, pour up a spoopy drink, blow out the candles,

682
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: relight them, blow them out again, and listen to the

683
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: Misanthrope by J. D.

684
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: Beresford. Take it away, Josh, did you say spoopy? Very nice?

685
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: Since I have returned from the rock and discussed the

686
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: story in all its bearings, I've begun to wonder if

687
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: the man made a fool of me. In the deeps

688
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: of my consciousness, I feel that he did not. Nevertheless,

689
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: I cannot resist the effect of all the laughter that

690
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: has been evoked by my narrative. Here on the mainland,

691
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: the whole thing seems unlikely, grotesque, foolish. On the rock,

692
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: the man's confession carried absolute conviction. The setting is everything,

693
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: and I am perhaps thankful that my present circumstances are

694
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: so beautifully conducive to sanity. No one appreciates the mystery

695
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: of life more than I do. But when the mystery

696
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: involves such a doubt of one's self, I find it

697
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: pleasanter to forget. Naturally, I do not want to believe

698
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: the story. If I did, I should know myself to

699
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: be some kind of human horror. And the terror of

700
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: it all lies in the fact that I may never

701
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: know precisely what kind. Before I went, we had eliminated

702
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: the facile and banal explanation that the man was mad,

703
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: and had fallen back upon two inevitable alternatives, crime and

704
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: disappointed love. We were human and romantic, and we tried

705
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: desperately hard not to be too obvious. That is the

706
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: most inscrutable paragraph I've ever read in my entire life. Yeah, right,

707
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: Once before a man had made the same attempt, and

708
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: had built or tried to build a house on the

709
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: Golden Rock, but he had been defeated within a fortnight,

710
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: and what was left of his building was taken off

711
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: the island and turned into a tin church. Is there

712
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: still We all went to trevone and ruminated over and

713
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: round it, perhaps with some faint hope that one of

714
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: us might, all unknowing, have the abilities of a psychometrist.

715
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: So I think what he's saying, there's something on this

716
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: island that he's very interested in. There's a person that

717
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: he's trying to figure out what their deal is, and

718
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: they're so into it that he and his group of

719
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: friends went to visit this tin church that had won's

720
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: been a house on this island for like two weeks,

721
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: just in an effort to glean some sort of information,

722
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: even psychic information if possible.

723
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's recounting this, So he's recounting something that

724
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: has already happened to him that he's very sort of

725
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: embarrassed about.

726
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: Yes, And we both read this already, and I can

727
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: promise you everybody, it gets more comprehensible as things go on.

728
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, we should probably reread this

729
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: beginning at the answer and be like, oh, okay, I

730
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: get it.

731
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of makes sense. It's sort of like

732
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: the movie that picks up with the guy that all

733
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: the stuff has already happened, and then he's like, and

734
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: here's the story.

735
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at the beginning of Sunset Boulevard, no one's like,

736
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? This story doesn't fall into

737
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: the same category. Okay, here I go. Nothing came of

738
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: that visit. This is the visit to that ten chirt,

739
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: but a slight intensification of those theories that were already

740
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: becoming a little stale. We compared the early failure of

741
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, the attempt that was baffled with the

742
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: present success. For this new misanthrope had lived on the

743
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: gullen through the whole winter and still lived. Indeed, the

744
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: fact of his presence on the awful lump of rock

745
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: was now accepted by the country people. To them, he

746
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: was scarcely a shade madder than the other visitors. That

747
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: renunerative recurrent host that this year broke their journey to

748
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: Bedrethon in order to stand on the Trevone Beach and

749
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: stare foolishly at just the visible hut that struck like

750
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: a cubicle gull on the landward face of that humped,

751
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: desolate island. The best I can tell is there's somebody

752
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: who lives there now, this hermit you on this island,

753
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: and the country people who live on the mainland just

754
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: off of the island are like whatever. They don't think

755
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: too much of him, but they can see his hut

756
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: from their house on the mainland.

757
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds about right.

758
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: You want to take over. You want me to keep

759
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: reading a jumble of words that barely makes sense.

760
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: I'll go okay, all right.

761
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: We all did that, stared at nothing in particular, and

762
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: meditated enormously, but in what I felt at the time

763
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: was a wild spirit of adventure. I went out one

764
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: night to the point of gun ver Head and saw

765
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: an actual light within that distant hut, a patch of

766
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: golden lichen on the mother parasite.

767
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: I like that.

768
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, great line, some aspect of humanity I found in

769
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: that light. It was that finally decided me that in

770
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: some quality of sympathy, perhaps with the hermit, mad criminal

771
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: or lovelorn who had found sanctuary from the pestilent touch

772
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: of the encroaching crowd. It was, in fact a wildish night,

773
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: and I stayed until the little yellow speck went out,

774
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: and all I could see through the murk was an

775
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: occasional canopy of curving spray when the elbow of the

776
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: trebon light touched a bare corner of that black Gulland

777
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: so this guy's just watching this island as well, But

778
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: he feels a little empathy, maybe.

779
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: Ye toward this guy sounds like it.

780
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: The making of a decision was no difficult matter. But

781
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: while I waited for the necessary calm that would permit

782
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 1: the occasional boat to land provisions on the island two

783
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: miles out from the mainland, I suffered qualms of doubt

784
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: and nervousness. And I suffered them alone, for I had

785
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: determined that no hint of my adventure should be given

786
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: to anyone of our party until the voyage had been made.

787
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: They might think that I had gone fishing, an excuse

788
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: which had all the air probability given to it by

789
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: the coming of the boatmen to say that the tide

790
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: and wind would serve that morning. I had warned and

791
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: bribed him to give no clue to my friends of

792
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: the goal of my proposed excursion. So this guy's going

793
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: to go out there on a boat, But He's like,

794
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: don't tell.

795
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 3: Anyone I'm doing ditching his friends. Ditching his friends.

796
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: My nervousness suffered no decrease. As we approached the rock

797
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: and saw the authentic figure of its single inhabitant awaiting

798
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: our arrival. I had some consolation in the thought that

799
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: he would be in some way I'm prepared by the

800
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: sight of our surprisingly passengered boat. But my mind shuddered

801
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: at the necessity for using some conventional form of address.

802
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: If I would make at once my introduction and excuse,

803
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: the civilized opening was so helplessly incapable of expressing my sympathy,

804
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: presenting instead so unmistakably it seemed to me the single

805
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: solution of common curiosity. I wondered that he had not,

806
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: as the boatman so clearly assured me, was the case

807
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: had other prying visitors before me. My self consciousness increased

808
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: as we came nearer to the single opening among the

809
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: spiked rocks that served as a miniature harbor at half tide.

810
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: I felt that I was being watched by the man

811
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: who now stood awaiting us at water's edge, and suddenly

812
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: my spirit broke. I decided that I could not force

813
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: myself upon him that I would remain in the boat

814
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: while its cargo was delivered, and then return with a

815
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: boatman to Trevone. So resolute was I in this plan

816
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: that when we had pulled into the tiny landing space,

817
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: I kept my gaze steadfastly averted from the man I

818
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: had come to see, and stay there solemnly out at

819
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: the humped back of trebone, now seen in an entirely

820
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: new aspect. All right, So this guy's having second thoughts now,

821
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm already out here, and maybe I should

822
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: just go back.

823
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I shouldn't force myself on a hermit who

824
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: I want to find out. What's your deal man?

825
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Why don't you take over? Because there's a

826
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: lot of me stuff.

827
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay. The sound of the hermit's voice startled me from

828
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: a perfectly genuine abstraction.

829
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: Fairly decent weather today.

830
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: He remarked with, I thought a touch of nervousness he had,

831
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: I remembered addressed the same remark to the boatmen, who

832
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: were now conveying their cargo up to the hut. I

833
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: looked up and meta's stare. He was, indeed regarding me

834
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: with a curious effect of concentration, as if he were

835
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: eager to know every detail of my expression. Jolly, I

836
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: replied him pretty basically. The last day or two kept

837
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: her rather short, hasn't it.

838
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: I make allowances for that, he said, keep a resume

839
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: of you know, are you I staying over there?

840
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: He nodded towards the bay for a well, weak or two,

841
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: I told him, as we began to discuss the country

842
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: around Harlan with the eagerness of two strangers who find

843
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: a common topic at a dull reception.

844
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: Never been on the gullen before, I suppose.

845
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: He ventured at last, when the boatmen had discharged their

846
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: load and were evidently ready to be off. No, no, no, no,

847
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: I haven't, I said, and hesitated. I felt the invitation

848
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: must come from him. He boggled over it by saying.

849
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: Dashed, awkward place to get to and nothing to see.

850
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: Of course, I don't know if you're at all keen

851
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: on fishing.

852
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: Well, Rather, I said, with enthusiasm.

853
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: There'sh deep water on the other side of the rock.

854
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: He went on, in the right weather you get splendid

855
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: bass there.

856
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: He stopped, and then added it will.

857
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 1: Be absolutely top zero for him this after noon.

858
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: Well, perhaps I could come back, I began, but the

859
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: boatman interrupted me at once.

860
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: Is this Josh Clark that's visiting this guy? It sounds

861
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: very much like this something you would do.

862
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: All right, you can come back tomorrow, sure enough, he said,

863
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: tide only serves once every twelve hours.

864
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: If you'd care to stay now.

865
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: Uh, thanks, that's awfully good of you. I should like

866
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: to of all things, I said, I stayed on the clear,

867
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 2: understanding that the boatmen were to fetch me the next morning.

868
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: At first, there was really very little that seemed in

869
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: any way strange about the man on the gully.

870
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: I could picture what heaven here, and he's like, yeah, yeah,

871
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: I'll stay. Then he turns around, he's like, you'll get

872
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: me tomorrow.

873
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: Right.

874
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, yeah, this will be great. We'll do

875
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: some fishing, like you guys are coming right in the morning, right.

876
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 2: They're like sure, sure, we'll be right back. His name,

877
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: he told me, was William Copley, but it appeared that

878
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: he was no relation to the Copleys I knew, And

879
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: if he had shaved, he would have looked a very

880
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: ordinary type of englishman roughing it on a holiday. His

881
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: age I judged to be between thirty and forty. Only

882
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: two things about him struck me as a little queer

883
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: during our very successful afternoons fishing. The first was that intense,

884
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: appraising stare of his, as if he tried to fathom

885
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: the very depths of one's being. The second was an

886
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: inexplicable devotion to one particular form of ceremony. As our

887
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: intimacy grew, he dropped the ordinary formal politeness of a host.

888
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: But he insisted always on one observance that I supposed

889
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: at first to be the merely conventional business of giving precedence.

890
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: Nothing would induce him to go in front of me.

891
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: He sent me ahead, even as we explored the little

892
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: peerlius of his rock. The only level square yard on

893
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: the whole island was in the floor of the hut.

894
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: But presently I noticed that this peculiarity went still further,

895
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: and that he would not turn his back on me

896
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: for a single moment. This is weird, This is a

897
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: this is yeah, it is weird. So but the hermit

898
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: thirties forties, all he needs to do is shave?

899
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

900
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: Is he like he's just a normal person.

901
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

902
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: But there's the one thing about him is that he

903
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: will not let that guy get behind him no matter what. Yeah,

904
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: I get it, okay, So that I think if anything,

905
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: him having that weird quirk would be expected. It was

906
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: him being just totally normal was the unexpected part.

907
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I agree. I agree with it.

908
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: Well it's you, buddy.

909
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: Oh okay. That discovery intrigued one. I still excluded the

910
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: explanation of madness. Copley's manner and conversation were so convincingly sane,

911
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: but I reverted to and elaborated those other two suggestions

912
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: that had been made. I could not avoid the inference

913
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: that the man must, in some strange way be afraid

914
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: of me, and I hesitated as to whether he were

915
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: flying from some form of justice or from revenge, perhaps

916
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: a vendetta. Either theory seemed to account for his intense

917
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: appraising stare. I inferred that his longing for companionship had

918
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: grown so strong that he had determined to risk the

919
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: possibility of my being an emissary sit by some to

920
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: me exquisitely romantic person or persons who desired Copley's death.

921
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 3: Man, I know.

922
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: I recalled and wallowed in some of the marvelous imaginings

923
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: of the novelist. I wondered if I could make Copley

924
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: speak by convincing him of my innocent identity.

925
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: How I thrilled at the prospect.

926
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: So this guy's just like ooh, maybe he thinks I'm

927
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: an assassin, and maybe I can convince him that I'm not.

928
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: That'll be fun, right, Maybe that'll get me some currency

929
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: with him if I convince him I'm not here to

930
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: kill him.

931
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

932
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: But the explanation of it all came without any effort

933
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: on my part. He said, me out of the hut

934
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: while he prepared our supper, quite a magnificent meal, by

935
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: the way. I saw his reason at once. He could

936
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: not manage all of that business of cooking and laying

937
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: the table without turning his back on me. One thing, however,

938
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: puzzled me a little. He drew down the blind of

939
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: the little square window as soon as I had gone outside. Naturally,

940
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: I made no demure. I climbed down to the edge

941
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: of the sea. It was a glorious evening and waited

942
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: until he called me. He stood at the door of

943
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: the hut until I was within a few feet of him,

944
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: and then retreated into the room and sat down with

945
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: his back to the wall. We discussed our afternoon sport

946
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: as we had supper. But when we had finished and

947
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: our pipes were going, he said, suddenly, I don't see

948
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: why I shouldn't tell you. Like a fool, I agreed eagerly,

949
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: when I might so easily.

950
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: Have stopped him.

951
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: It began when I was quite a kid, he said.

952
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: My mother found me crying in the garden, and all

953
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: I could tell her was that Claude, my elder brother,

954
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: looked horrid. I couldn't bear the sight of him for

955
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: days afterward, either, But I was such a perfectly normal

956
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: child that they weren't seriously perturbed about this one idiosyncrasy

957
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: of mine. They thought that Claude had made a face

958
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: at me and frightened me. My father whacked me for it. Eventually,

959
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm playing this guy over than thirty five years old.

960
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: I realized he's just morphed into hannibal lecture.

961
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: Okay, fly fly Claris.

962
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: Perhaps that whacking stuck in my mind. Anyway, I didn't

963
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: confide my peculiarity to anyone until I was nearly seventeen.

964
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: I was ashamed of it, of course, I still am

965
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: in a way. He stopped and looked down pushed his

966
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: plate away from him and folded his arms on the table.

967
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: I was pining to ask a question, but I was

968
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: afraid to interrupt, and after a moment's hesitation, he looked

969
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: up and held my gaze again, but now without that

970
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: inquiring look of his. Rather, he seemed to be looking

971
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: for sympathy.

972
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: I told my aushmaster.

973
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: He said he was a splendid chap and he was

974
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: very decent about it. Took it all quite seriously and

975
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: advised me to consult an occultist, which I did. I

976
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: went in the holidays with the pater. I had given

977
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: him a more reasonable account of my trouble, and he

978
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: took me to the best man in London. He was

979
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: tremendously interested. And it proves that there must be something

980
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: in it that it can't be imagination, because he really

981
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: found a defect in my eyes, something quite new to him,

982
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: he said. He called it a new form of astigmatism.

983
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: But of course, as he pointed out, no glasses would

984
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: be of any use to me. But what I began,

985
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: unable to keep down my curiosity any longer, hopefully hesitated

986
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: and dropped his eyes. A stigmatism, you know, he said?

987
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 5: Is it defect.

988
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: I quote the dictionary. I learned that definition by heart.

989
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: I often puzzle over it, still, causing images of lines

990
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: having a certain direction to be indist while those of

991
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: lines transverse to the former are distinctly seen. Only mine

992
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: is peculiar. And the fact that my sight is perfectly

993
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: normal except when I look back at anyone over my shoulder.

994
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: He looked up almost pathetically.

995
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: All right, So this guy's getting the truth out of him.

996
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: This's got something wrong with his eyes.

997
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: Yes, And he found out that there actually is something

998
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 2: wrong with it because he got his dad to take

999
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: him to essentially, I guess a psychic or something in London.

1000
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: And the deal is, though, is the guy when he

1001
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: looks over his shoulder at somebody, something's up, right, which

1002
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: is why I didn't want anyone behind him.

1003
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, take it away.

1004
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: I could see that, he hoped I might understand without

1005
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: further explanation. I had to confess myself utterly mystified. What

1006
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: had this trifling defect of vision to do with his

1007
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 2: coming to live on the guland I wondered, I frowned

1008
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: my perplexity. But I I don't see, I said. He

1009
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: knocked out his pipe and began to scrape the bowl

1010
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: with his pocket knife.

1011
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: Well, mine is a kind of moral astigmatism, too, he said.

1012
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: At least it gives me a kind of moral insight.

1013
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: I'm afraid I must call it insight. There are some

1014
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: who call me Tim.

1015
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: I proved in some cases that.

1016
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: He dropped his voice. He was apparently deeply engrossed in

1017
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: the scraping out of his pipe. He kept his eyes

1018
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: on it as he continued.

1019
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Normally, you understand, when I look at people straight in

1020
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: the face, I see them as anybody else sees them.

1021
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 3: But when I look back at them over my shoulder.

1022
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: I see, oh, I see all their vices and defects.

1023
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: Their faces remain, in a sense the same. I'm perfectly recognizable,

1024
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, but distorted beastly.

1025
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 3: There was my brother Claude.

1026
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: Good looking chap he was, But when I saw him

1027
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: that way, he had a nose like a parrot, and

1028
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 1: he looked sort of weakly voracious and vicious.

1029
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: He stopped and shuddered slightly, and then added.

1030
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: And no one knows now that he is like that too.

1031
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: He's just been hammered on the stock exchange, rotten sort

1032
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: of failure. It was so this guy. Uh, he's explaining

1033
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: about his brother.

1034
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: Yes, so his look like a creep.

1035
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: Right, And he looked at him over his shoulder and

1036
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 2: saw his brother looking really weird.

1037
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like his true self basically m hm. And then Dennison,

1038
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: my house master, you know, such a decent chap. I

1039
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: never looked at him that way until the end of

1040
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: my last term at school. I had got into the

1041
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: habit more or less of never looking over my shoulder,

1042
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: you see, But I was always getting caught. That was

1043
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: an instance. I was playing for the school against the

1044
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: old boys. Dennison called out good luck, old tap just

1045
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: as I was going in, and I forgot and looked

1046
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: back at him.

1047
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: Hey, that was a flashback.

1048
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: Nice work on the fly.

1049
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: Mm hm.

1050
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: Go ahead, oh am, I narrating, that's right. Yeah. I

1051
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: waited breathless, and as he did not go on, I

1052
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 2: prompted him with was he was he like wrong too?

1053
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: Copley nodded, weak, poor devil.

1054
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: His eyes were all right, but they were fighting his

1055
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: mouth if you know what I mean.

1056
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 3: I have no idea what that means.

1057
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: I looked it up. I can't find any explanation of

1058
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: that whatsoever. So no, we don't know what you mean,

1059
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: William Copley.

1060
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: I think he just means he looked funny or something.

1061
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: I guess, but I feel like he's talking about a

1062
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: specific way that he looked funny.

1063
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: Well, he says, if you know what I mean, your

1064
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: guys should say nobody knows what you.

1065
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 2: Mean, right, Harold, I'll add that line.

1066
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: Okay, they were fighting his mouth.

1067
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: If you know what I mean, I feel like nobody

1068
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: knows what you mean.

1069
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: Oh man, you're really milking this one.

1070
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: There would have been an awful scandal at that school

1071
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: there four years after I left, if they hadn't hushed

1072
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: it up and got Dennison out of the country.

1073
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: Still no idea what was wrong with Dennison?

1074
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's one of those things left unsaid. Then,

1075
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: if you want any more instances, there was the occultist,

1076
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: Big Fine Chap he was, of course. He made me

1077
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: look at him over my shoulder to test me, and

1078
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: I told more or less he was simply livid for

1079
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: a moment. He was a sensualist, you see, And when

1080
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: I saw him that way, he looked like some filthy

1081
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: old hog. I realized my accent is completely different than

1082
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: the big.

1083
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: But it's very pleasing I was going to tell you,

1084
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: great job with.

1085
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 3: This, I found it. But he's morphed.

1086
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what happens. He's evolved.

1087
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: That's right. The thing that really finished.

1088
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: Me he went back to the beginning.

1089
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 3: Okay, keep nearrating, though, he.

1090
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: Went on after a long interval.

1091
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Was the breaking off of my engagement to Helen. We

1092
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: were frightfully in love with one another, and I told

1093
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: her about my trouble. She was very sympathetic, and I

1094
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: suppose rather sentimentally romantic too. She believed it was some

1095
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: sort of spell that had been put on me. I

1096
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: think anyway. She had a theory that if I once

1097
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: saw anybody truly and ordinarily over my shoulder, I should

1098
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: never have any more trouble, the spell would be broken

1099
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: sort of thing. And of course she wanted to be

1100
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: the person. I didn't resist her much. I was infatuated.

1101
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: I suppose anyway. I thought she was perfection, and that

1102
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: it was simply impossible that I could find any defect

1103
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: in her. So I agreed and looked that way.

1104
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: His voice had fallen to an even note of despondency,

1105
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: as though the telling of this final tragedy in his

1106
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: life had brought him to the indifference of despair.

1107
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: I looked, he continued.

1108
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: And saw a creature with no chin and watery, doting eyes,

1109
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: a fateful, slobbery thing. Eh, I can't. I never spoke

1110
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: to her again. That broke me, you.

1111
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: Know, he said.

1112
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: Presently after that, I didn't care. I used to look

1113
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: at everyone that way until I had to get away

1114
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: from humanity. I was living in a world of beasts.

1115
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: Most of them looked like some beast or bird or other.

1116
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: The strong were mor vicious and criminal, and the weak

1117
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: were loathsome.

1118
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: I couldn't stick it.

1119
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 5: In the end.

1120
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 1: I had to come here, away from them all.

1121
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: The thought occurred to me, Ah, have you ever looked

1122
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: at you know, you're in the glass?

1123
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: I asked, Are you certainly drawing with your toe and

1124
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: the sand in front of them?

1125
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Very batchful?

1126
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm no better than the rest of them, he said.

1127
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: That's why I grew this rotten beard. I hadn't got

1128
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: a looking glass here, And you.

1129
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: Can't keep it like a stiff neck as it were.

1130
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: I asked, you, you know, like going about looking humanity

1131
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: just you know, you know, like straight in the face.

1132
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 1: The temptation is too strong, Copley said, and it gets

1133
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: stronger curiosity. Partly, I suppose, but partly it's the momentary

1134
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: sense of superiority.

1135
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: It gives you.

1136
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: You see them like that, you know, and forget how

1137
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: you look yourself, and then after a bit it sickens you.

1138
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: You haven't, I said, and hesitated. I wanted to know.

1139
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: I was horribly afraid you haven't. I began again, Er

1140
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: you have? Uh? Or have you let me figure out

1141
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: how to say this? Have have you looked at me

1142
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: that way?

1143
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: Not yet?

1144
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: He said?

1145
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: M M.

1146
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 5: Do you.

1147
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: Do?

1148
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 5: You suppose?

1149
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: Probably you look all right, of course, but then show

1150
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: did heaps of the others.

1151
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you have no idea none how I should

1152
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: look to you that way?

1153
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely none. I've been trying to guess, but I can't.

1154
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: Oh man, you wouldn't you know? You wouldn't care. Not now,

1155
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: he said, sharply, Perhaps just before you go m ah,

1156
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: you feel fairly certain. Then he nodded with disgusting conviction.

1157
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: I went to bed, wondering whether Helen's theory wasn't a

1158
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: true one, and if I might not break the spell

1159
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: for poor old Copley. The boatman came for me soon

1160
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: after eleven. The next morning, I had shaken off some

1161
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: of the feeling of superstitious horror that held me overnight.

1162
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: And I had not repeated my request to Copley, nor

1163
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: had he offered to look into the dark places of

1164
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: my soul. He came down after me to the landing

1165
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: place and we shook hands warmly, but he said nothing

1166
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: about my revisiting him. And then, just as we were

1167
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: putting off, he turned backward toward the hut and looked

1168
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: at me over his shoulder, just one quick glance. Uh

1169
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, wait, I commanded the boatman, and

1170
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: I stood up and called to him. Uh Copley, I shouted.

1171
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: He turned and looked at me, and I saw that

1172
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: his face was transfigured. He wore an expression of foolish

1173
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: disgust and loathing. I had seen something like it on

1174
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: the face of a child who was just going to

1175
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: be sick.

1176
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 3: Oh boy.

1177
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: I dropped down into the boat and turned my back

1178
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: on him. I wondered then if that was how he

1179
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: had seen himself in the glass. But since I have

1180
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: only wondered what it was he saw in me, and

1181
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: I can never go back to ask him.

1182
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 3: Ah.

1183
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: Pretty great stuff.

1184
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, torturous ending though, for sure. But I means nicely cinematically,

1185
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: you know for sure?

1186
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't not knowing the most horrible thing of all?

1187
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, especially when you see Kopley turn around and

1188
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: look and then look like a kid that's about to puke.

1189
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, what would have been? Graters? Have you just been

1190
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 2: over and started puking after something?

1191
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1192
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1193
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: All over the rock?

1194
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: Really?

1195
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1196
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: Man, I feel like we should make a second career

1197
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: of punching up old short stories and making them better.

1198
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, yeah, I think it's a good market

1199
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: in that.

1200
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: Let those painters that go around and find like yard

1201
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: sale paintings and then paint stuff in them.

1202
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.

1203
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of let's do it, Chuck, I say that

1204
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: this this Halloween Spectacular has come to an end, don't you.

1205
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been great fun, my friend. This is always

1206
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: one of the more fun episodes that we do, along

1207
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: with our Christmas special. We have a lot of fun

1208
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: doing these, and you did a great, great job this year.

1209
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: As did you. Thank you so Happy Halloween everybody from

1210
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: Chuck and Me and Jerry from Ben from Dave from Dave,

1211
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: from Livia, from Ed from the whole crew. Here it's

1212
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: stuff you Should Know, stay safe, and be ghoulish.

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