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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has proved that Tom Savage

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Speaker 1: is not Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosatal. What's up, boys? Hey? Dan? What's happening?

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Speaker 1: What's happening? What's happening is if you're lucky enough to

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Speaker 1: be watching this live on periscope right now, you see

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Speaker 1: what the rest of us sea, which is Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: in one of the finest um holiday sweaters I have

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Speaker 1: ever seen. It's a Cleveland Brown sweater and a sweater

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Speaker 1: that really is gorgeous. Quite frankly, Yeah, I think it

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Speaker 1: reflects where the team is at right now and where

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Speaker 1: my voice is. Voice is an absolute mess. What's happening?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a late day crumble. They don't

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Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen to me during this show? You

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Speaker 1: or the sweater at a holiday party last night? Did

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Speaker 1: you get judged at the party at all? To Cleveland Browns? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's an NFL sanctioned sweater. You can you didn't to

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Speaker 1: go buy it. It's one of those times you can

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Speaker 1: buy it I did not knit it myself. It is

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Speaker 1: available to you through normal channels. Mark in the holiday spirit.

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Speaker 1: Even if the Browns, well, the Browns are the season

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Speaker 1: of giving in a lot of ways. Yes, they are

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Speaker 1: week after week. This is our last line up and

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Speaker 1: take from them. We'll get to the Browns a little

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Speaker 1: bit later as they attempt to avoid going Now in sixteen,

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Speaker 1: that's getting starting to get really uncomfortable. There, but so

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Speaker 1: many games to get to today in the NFL. Um

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Speaker 1: and Greg, this is now, this is your time. It

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Speaker 1: is time you put down the calculator, the calculations, computations, tabulations, permutations.

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Speaker 1: It's Greg time. That's it. It's just Gregg time. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's how you're waiting for me to talk. I got

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Speaker 1: Sydney working overtime right at the top of the ship.

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Speaker 1: We are starting to figure some things out, you know,

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Speaker 1: more than how excited to get more than two weeks

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Speaker 1: out it. You know, they too many different scenarios, but

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Speaker 1: now you pretty much can lock it all in. It's

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Speaker 1: also Greg time because Greg's favorite team is surging towards

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl for like the eighteenth time in his lifetime. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we will get to that as well. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of reasons why it's great to

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Speaker 1: be NFL networks Greg Rosenthal right now. No, it can't

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Speaker 1: be Greg Rosenthal. That's a different one. Yeah, so he

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Speaker 1: mix it up. Let's start. We will talk about Greg's Patriots,

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Speaker 1: but let's start with the biggest news of the day.

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Speaker 1: Um in a game where there was a benching, all

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Speaker 1: sorts of stuff going on. Let's go to Houston the

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Speaker 1: first game of the day. Portals to the middle of

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Speaker 1: the Fils, picked off Clinton deps and he wisely goes

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Speaker 1: down at the yard line. Sixteenth interception this season for

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Speaker 1: Blake Portals and the Texans can kill the clock, can

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Speaker 1: beat Jacksonville for the sixth straight time. Blake Bortles is

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Speaker 1: a terrible quarterback. Andrew Catalan of CBS with that call,

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage replaced an ineffective brock Oswal Yeah, I said,

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Speaker 1: Tom saving and helps sparked a big comeback for the Texans,

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Speaker 1: who wiped out a thirteen point deficit in a one

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Speaker 1: to twenty win over the Jacksonville Jaguars. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into the Houston Qubi saga in a moment,

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Speaker 1: but let's start with the announcement shortly after the game

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Speaker 1: that the Jaguars UH fired Gus Bradley after nearly four

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Speaker 1: seasons of absolute ineptitude. Chris Westley and I start with

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Speaker 1: you move over due, uh for a lot of the

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Speaker 1: fan base, but still the timing interesting, interesting timing. I

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Speaker 1: would think you'd just have him close out the season. UH.

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Speaker 1: For him, it's an early Christmas gift, as their owners said,

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't have to game plan for Blake Bortles

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Speaker 1: the next two weeks. It's impossible to win a game

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Speaker 1: with Blake Bortles at quarterback. They they he joined them

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Speaker 1: on the flight home, which I find very well, highly awkward.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of anything like that. He's so well liked,

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Speaker 1: you can almost imagine that it's not a long flight,

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Speaker 1: but it it turned into a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: goodbye for him and all his players. I mean, people

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Speaker 1: where he says, I feel like is an extremely talented team,

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Speaker 1: gonna do that. This team has won fourteen games in

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Speaker 1: you want to see the positive. You want to find

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Speaker 1: Gus Bradley about one thing. It's that you could argue

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Speaker 1: a lot of high picks and players with physical talent

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Speaker 1: have not reached their peak performance at all under that regime.

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Speaker 1: They just didn't take a look in the mirror, take

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Speaker 1: this isn't the two thousand or thirteen or or fourteen roster.

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Speaker 1: This is a two thousand sixteen roster. And we know

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Speaker 1: that players like Allen Robinson and Julian Julius Thomas are talented.

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Speaker 1: They just haven't been able to produce with Blake Bortles.

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Speaker 1: I hate. I hated the timing of the firing. You

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Speaker 1: know that the the statement bothered me a lot to

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Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna give him time to spend time

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Speaker 1: You can't wait till tomorrow morning. Come back to us Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: But this is what we're talking about with this team.

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Speaker 1: It's been can't get out of their own way. And

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Speaker 1: even when they were the popular Darling pick in August

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Speaker 1: for Gus Bradley to be out of town. He lasted

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Speaker 1: essentially four years when most coaches get fired effort too.

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Speaker 1: He has the lowest winning percentage in NFL history, and

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Speaker 1: that one last thing. Everyone always a bad teams complain

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Speaker 1: fans reacted when they saw Tom Savage come on the

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Speaker 1: and what does Tom Savage do. He takes over that

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Speaker 1: Terrible play calling by Bill O'Brien botched that situation. But

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Speaker 1: the end, which is what you heard. So they did

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Speaker 1: go back to brock oswall Uh and I just I

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Speaker 1: And um, I think we've got three really talented quarterbacks here,

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Speaker 1: to win a game? And uh, that was the decision

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Speaker 1: worked out, okay, Mark, I mean, yet you asked do

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Speaker 1: you go back to him. You've got two games left

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Speaker 1: Titans that probably decides this division. So if you get

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Speaker 1: anything out of Tom Savage, no you don't seen him

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Speaker 1: because you were getting sub zero nothing from Brock Osweiler.

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Speaker 1: I understand the patients, but it you know, it got

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Speaker 1: that game on Christmas Eves on some tabulations, and really

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's always talking about. I don't trust a word

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Speaker 1: he says, not even hello. He's a liar and he

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Speaker 1: can't make a decision. Their owner Bob mcneaire called this

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Speaker 1: a gutsy move after the game. A gutsy move would

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Speaker 1: bye before a three game losing streak that forces him

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Speaker 1: Past your boy, did my boy? I guess David Clowney,

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Speaker 1: You might have to stay seated for a while when

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Speaker 1: Clowney had a big game in this uh, in this matchup.

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Speaker 1: Pluck come on touchdowns for Garrett Blunt? Well where ald

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Speaker 1: am I in? This is life on the throne of ease,

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Speaker 1: like Garrett Blunt ran for his league leading fifteen touched

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Speaker 1: it was sixteen to three. Yes, it was at mile high.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots have clinched an NFL record eighth consecutive division title.

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Speaker 1: another opportunity, and that it was the first line and

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Speaker 1: you're right up. Greg abolished the icing the kicker scenario,

429
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Speaker 1: and you know what, it's a legitimate request. I I

430
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: love Andy Reid. I think he's a great coach and

431
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: underrated coach, but he cost his team the games. Well,

432
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: it was a bad day for his coach of the

433
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: Year thing. Not only that, if they win the game,

434
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Speaker 1: if they convert a third and three when they got

435
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Speaker 1: the ball back. You know when after Tennessee missed the

436
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: two point conversion, which was a balls he call, and

437
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 1: and they run an option play with with Alex Smith,

438
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: and I just I don't know, I hated. I hated

439
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: that call. But go Titans defense. We've been killing them

440
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: a lot, held the Chiefs scoreless in the second half. Uh,

441
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: they were really the reason they could come back. And

442
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: I thought the defense looked good against Denver last week.

443
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Speaker 1: And it's kind of jelling at the perfect time. And

444
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Speaker 1: you know, I until this very moment was I forgot

445
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: the stakes were this high. Like I'm not I'm not

446
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: looking to get on another bandwagon, but it was pretty

447
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: high stakes. I can never get on the bandwagon now ever, Right, well,

448
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: I think there's a penance you can do to get

449
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: back in titoons fans. Let's move on. Revers will work

450
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: from the gun here they called Irvin. With the contact

451
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Speaker 1: of that pass is intercepted, picked off by Lety Nelson.

452
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: Nelson will stumble forward just shy of the ten and

453
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: the Raiders in their fans can't tastey. Bruce Irvan brought

454
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: the pressure. Reggie Nelson made the play, and the Raiders

455
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: clinched a playoff spot with a nineteen sixty and win

456
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Speaker 1: over the Chargers in front of as you heard, thousands

457
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: of silver and black supporters in San Diego. Spirodidas of

458
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: CBS with the call Mark Sessler. The Raiders are going

459
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 1: to the playoffs for the first time since two thousand two,

460
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: and they did it with a gutty little effort against

461
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Speaker 1: the Frisky Balls. Yeah, congratulations to you know. We live

462
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: here in southern California and I feel like any time

463
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: you go out to a sports bubbert really anywhere that's

464
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: a fan base. The Raiders fans to wear their jerseys

465
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: out to fancy dinners. They don't care what anyone thinks

466
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: and I'm happy for them. Um, I'm just saying, you

467
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: see them anywhere they travel, and we've taken that team

468
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: to town many times on this show. Deservedly this year,

469
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: they deserve our utter respect, and it's for winning a

470
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: game like they did today. It did not go according

471
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Speaker 1: to the typical silver and black script from this season.

472
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: You know, they have been a team that only the

473
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: Falcons have scored more thirty points or more in a

474
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: game than the Raiders. This season, they've done it seven times.

475
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Speaker 1: Last couple of weeks, they've struggled. And I don't blame

476
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Speaker 1: it on Derek Carr's uh dislocated pinky. He looked fine

477
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: throwing the ball out of the shotgun. Again. I think

478
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Speaker 1: it's San Diego's defense is you know, for a team

479
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: with sixteen players on engine reserve, they did not give

480
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Speaker 1: up on their coach. They played this thing right down

481
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: to the end like they were still in the playoff hunt.

482
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: They gave the Raiders, you know, all they could handle.

483
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: But I think that Oakland has two things that positive

484
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Speaker 1: that came out of this. One. Car's health still looks

485
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: fine and and and B they got out of some

486
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: jams with their ground game and they're gonna need to

487
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: do that on the road. They're gonna need to do

488
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: that in cold weather if they plan to get through January.

489
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Speaker 1: So it was not a remarkable win, but it was

490
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Speaker 1: an incredibly guts road win that essentially completely put them

491
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Speaker 1: into a much better position than they were a day

492
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: ago in the a f C. They they basically at

493
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: this point have the second seed wrapped up. They've got

494
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Speaker 1: to take care of the Cults, and then the Broncos. Well,

495
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: that's not wrapped up. I don't think the Raiders can

496
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Speaker 1: be assumed to. I'm not saying wrapped up, but if you,

497
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Speaker 1: if you, if you take care of the Colts next week,

498
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: and which Raiders show up this this team, as much

499
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Speaker 1: as I love the fact that they never abandoned the

500
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: run when they're playing from behind, they always stick to

501
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: the run and that's great, but for stretches of each

502
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Speaker 1: of the last three games, they have been shut down

503
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Speaker 1: by defenses. I just look at the rest of the

504
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: teams were discussing outside of the Steelers, and this, to

505
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: me is the team that is clearly the second best

506
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: team in the a f C to me, and that's

507
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: why that suck up kick is so big because the

508
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs now fall all the way down to the five seed.

509
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: And you're right, I don't think the Raiders are since

510
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: to beat Indiana plus or to win it, to win

511
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: in Denver, certainly in week seventeen, but that is a

512
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: huge jump to get up to the point where now

513
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: they're in the mix for the number one seed. There

514
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Speaker 1: in the mix for the boy I'm interested in that mark.

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Speaker 1: You think that even the chief swept the Raiders, you

516
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: think the Raiders are the clear number two in this conference.

517
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna go back on this kill

518
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs thing. I just think that the Chiefs are

519
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: Do I trust the Chiefs to go through the playoffs

520
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: without a buye to somehow go on the road and

521
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: pull their act through to through to the Super Bowl?

522
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Do you think the Raiders? Basically, I think

523
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: the Raiders listen, some of this is not scientific, and

524
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: we want to make everything super scientific, and it's I

525
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: think the Raiders have a little bit Again, today del

526
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: Rio did a couple of things that said he does

527
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Speaker 1: not he is going to go for whatever it takes

528
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: to put your team in a position to win. And

529
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders kind of have a little bit

530
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: of magic to him to more than the Chiefs. And

531
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Speaker 1: are you're looking at me like I'm crazy or something,

532
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not that. And they know what to close

533
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: out games. I mean, Bruce servant Khalil Mack late in

534
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: this game again. And then I feel bad for Philip Rivers.

535
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 1: After the game, he said they went to a silent

536
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: count the whole game, like it was a road game.

537
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: And he said he's he's dealt with a similar crowd before,

538
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, when he plays in Oakland. Well, if you

539
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: didn't blow so many games this year, you'd have more

540
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: fans in your building in week fifteen. Probably not. Probably,

541
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Andrew with a long account

542
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: faces it. Deterbine drops to throw. He's got Dorset wide

543
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: open down the field. He's got it and he scars

544
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 1: fifty on the pass player though Dorset and the Colts

545
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: have broken this went open door set with a big,

546
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: big play and the Colts are up by thirty points.

547
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: WHOA Bob Lamey w f N I with the call?

548
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: Who got news for you, Bob Lamey? The Colts broke

549
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: that game open way before that play. Who can figure

550
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: out the Colts not the Vikings, who got embarrassed in

551
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: the thirty four six home loss that felt like the

552
00:27:52,320 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: death knell of a strange season. The Cults, meanwhile, well

553
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: once again looked like world beaters a week after laying

554
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: an egg at home against the Texans West, who are

555
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Cults. This was one of the most comprehensive

556
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: dismantlings of two fairly equal teams that you will ever see.

557
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: The Colts. We're up twenty seven and nothing at halftime.

558
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: It had a time of possession of almost twenty four

559
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: to six. The Vikings could do nothing. That was the

560
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: Colt's best performance of the year in the ground attack,

561
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and the defense. By far. Everything the

562
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: Colts did worked nothing the Vikings. I'm glad I wasn't

563
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: here on Thursday, just because I probably would I would

564
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: have locked this up or something. Well Mark likes to say,

565
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: none of the science will tell you this or that.

566
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: None of the science would tell you that a ferocious

567
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: Vikings front seven would be completely shut down by the

568
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: Colts offensive line. And this is the game where Adrian

569
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: Peterson returned to the lineup West number one. Did he

570
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: look like Adrian Peterson at number two. I guess because

571
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: they fell behind so quickly. It didn't matter anyway. Right,

572
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: it's in possible to tell because behind that offensive line,

573
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: he didn't get to the second level. He never had

574
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: a chance to get out of first gear. He had

575
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: one thirteen yard run which he fought for extra yards

576
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: and Mike Adams stripped him of the ball in the

577
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: red zone. But he's averaging two yards per carry this

578
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: year in three games. To me, you asked, like, who

579
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: who are these cults? You know, we can't figure that

580
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: to be. These are these cults. These are the Chuck

581
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: Bugano colts. You know, they're gonna make it out like

582
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: no one believed in us and and we stepped up

583
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: and we're always gonna keep fighting. And they're gonna be

584
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: all excited about this when they put together a complete performance,

585
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna give up. And there it's like, okay,

586
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: well who cares. It's kind of like, okay, that's great.

587
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: You like, they were really happy they kept fighting back

588
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: from tough circumstances last year and okay, you're seven and

589
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: seven still and that in the other events in the

590
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: a f C South really really bang them today. I

591
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: have changed my entire basic takeaway from this game. The

592
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: Colts are right back in the heat of the ANFC South,

593
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: and then after that both the Titans and the Texans

594
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: came back for dramatic comebacks. But this this Colts team,

595
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 1: the one I think identity they have. The one thing

596
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: you can count on is if Andrew luck is protected,

597
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: they're hard to beat. Any permutations for the FC South

598
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: that you can give us, Greg Well, I I talked

599
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: about the Texans that they can afford a loss. Texas

600
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: are five and o in the division. That's all you

601
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: need to know. Here's one permutation in the scenario I

602
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: knew I get in. I tried to think us up

603
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: at the top of my head. Coults are not out

604
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: of this. They're gonna have to bet. They're gonna have

605
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: to win in in Oakland, which is very difficult. But

606
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: if they can get into a two way tie with

607
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: the Titans at nine and seven, if that's how it

608
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: shakes out, and you can see the Texans losing these

609
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: next to they get in because they because they swept

610
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: the Titans. I don't think beating the Raiders in Oakland

611
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: is like beating the Patriots in New England. I agree,

612
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: I just I refuse to um. I know every other

613
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: week it's like, let's celebrate the Cults. What a fantastic

614
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: Andrew luck led team. They're about to go eight and eight,

615
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: and we I don't want these teams in the playoffs.

616
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: Gonna be stubborn about it. I know we gotta go,

617
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: but we should say goodbye to the Vikings. Here. I

618
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: apologize as the last person on this thing. You don't

619
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: need to apologize. Not apologize, I mean the last person

620
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: on this sinking ship. I never saw this thing coming.

621
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: This is crazy here we clearly you know it didn't

622
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: work out. But that's life. You make wrong choices. And

623
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: here is here's the irony of it all. The four

624
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: finals given up is my point. That's fine. The four

625
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: finalists for Team of a t L were the Vikings,

626
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: the Titans, the Buccaneers and the Raiders. We had a

627
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: chance of getting this one right. Well, and you know

628
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: it's it's like by the time where in our sixties,

629
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna remember this that one of us voted for

630
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and we all voted for the Vikings, this

631
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: disastrous move. I know that I certainly spearheaded it, but

632
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: I said all along. I would rather do it on

633
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: my own because I don't want the jibber jabber and

634
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: the nons ends in the white noise from the rest

635
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: of the room. So now it's over much. When I'm

636
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: six years old, I will remember that it was marked.

637
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: It is utter nonsense. How you look back on this

638
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: with the revisionist history. I will remember this by next

639
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: year at this time. Alright, just second won't exist. Like

640
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: this phrase from Greg you make the wrong choices sometimes

641
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Speaker 1: to explain away, I think he's life in charge of

642
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: any time a team fires a coach, you released the statement.

643
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: It just says, hey, sometimes you make wrong choice. I

644
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: feel like that any defense attorney should use that for

645
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: their closing arguments in a court of law. Let's move on, man.

646
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: It calls jobs, signals, takes the snap, looks, throws one

647
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: white row, don't makes the cats one ending head into

648
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Speaker 1: the end zone for a touchdown, A little speed out,

649
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Speaker 1: well go Backham Jr. And he reeled it in with

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Speaker 1: one hand. Have a giant's responding a big way with

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Speaker 1: five forties seven ago Bob Papa w f A and

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's tenth touchdown of the year. And remember you

653
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: didn't have one until Week five, gave the Giants the

654
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: cushion they needed in an eventual seventeen to six win

655
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: over the Detroit Lions that moves Big Blue to ten

656
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Speaker 1: and four in Ben mcadoo's first season. Um, this was

657
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: another tremendous effort by the New York defense that forced

658
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: two turnovers, held the lines of just three total yards.

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Speaker 1: And uh, Greg, I gotta say, well a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Uh, you know I got it wrong

661
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: with the Titans West? What is here? John Spenser eleven? It? Yeah,

662
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: the defense and Odell Beckham have been enough to overcome

663
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: an offense that still is not very good. Eli Manning's

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00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: still not playing well, but the defense now is one

665
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the NFL. And Odell Beckham

666
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: is special. That everything you said is correct. Eli had

667
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: a nice drive that he led them on, but they

668
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: still and he threw two touchdowns. His stat line looks

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00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: better than the way he played. Uh, they still had

670
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: only three yards of offense. And now I'll turn to

671
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Speaker 1: Greg and Greg it's time with JPP on the shelf.

672
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: In this game, Jack Rabbit Jenkins suffered some type of

673
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: internal injury and missed most of the second half. Steve

674
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: Spagnola spall your boy, you had trash bags on on

675
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Speaker 1: a a wild level on this show. He is one

676
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: of the best decordinators in football right now, how about that?

677
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I'm gonna show you some notes from

678
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Speaker 1: just just last night and sometimes can we hold this

679
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Speaker 1: up now? I mean, no one's gonna be but you

680
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: know this helps me, helps remind me of maybe some

681
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: things to talk about on the podcast. Look at this

682
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Speaker 1: so good at blitzing third and long. Get credit exclamation.

683
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Speaker 1: I said, give us some credit to Spags. He's been awesome.

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Speaker 1: Can we get in tight on this? There's no Um,

685
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Speaker 1: it's like like Charlie Day. It's a picture of a

686
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: sock in this. Look at that handwriting. That is Charlie

687
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: writing right there. I don't know if you saw them.

688
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Speaker 1: Say what does it say? I mean it says right here.

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Speaker 1: Credit to spags acclamation point. You know, highly resembles Kevin

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Speaker 1: Spacey's journal from the movie The movie seven. So I'm

691
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Speaker 1: a little you know, Greg, we're concerned about you. So

692
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Speaker 1: here you go. They have the players landon Collins with

693
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Speaker 1: another big game. Um. They they've shown they have the

694
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Speaker 1: depth to survive injuries two key players, and week after week, Uh,

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00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: they are beating teams with good offenses. This time Detroit,

696
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: who again we talked about on Thursday. They better watch out.

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00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: Now everybody's excited about Detroit, but uh, they have a

698
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Speaker 1: very real chance of going nine and seven after being

699
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Speaker 1: nine and four. We'll see how they respond to this. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So that's my big takeaways from the game. Eli and

701
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: the offense a little better, but still far off from

702
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Speaker 1: being a super Bowl type team. The defense is now

703
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: and we've been talking about who's the best defense in

704
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: league with about fifty seven teams this year, but might

705
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: be the Giants after all this the way they're playing

706
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: uh and one play guys that really to me cemented

707
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: and run me like the old Bill parcels days. Four

708
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: minutes to play, Uh, they have the two score lead,

709
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Speaker 1: third and six, they just run the ball into the

710
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, take the ball out of Eli's hands,

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00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: even with Beckham on the field, and sayd go win

712
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: this game. What happens they get an interception on the

713
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Speaker 1: next drive in the way we got did that last

714
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: week too, and it worked. We like to talk about

715
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: the history of the recent Giants was under a different coach,

716
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: but getting into the playoffs and upsetting teams along the

717
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: way to two Super Bowl wins. I typically don't think

718
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Speaker 1: there's any traction at all into what a current team

719
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Speaker 1: in New York is doing. But it's just weird, because

720
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Speaker 1: you know, New York, when you have this kind of

721
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Speaker 1: a defense, what's to say they couldn't deal with a

722
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Speaker 1: team like maybe Seattle that occasionally drops total stink bombs

723
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Speaker 1: on offense and you win a game ten to nine

724
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: the way that the Vikings almost beat the Seahawks last

725
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: year when their defense was on fire. I mean, it's

726
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: not crazy. They've beat in the Cowboys twice. Defense has

727
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Speaker 1: to overcome a man in that quarterback. And they're all

728
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: but in now too. I mean they went in Philadelphia

729
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: on Thursday night and they're officially in. I mean, even

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Speaker 1: if they lost these last two attendant six, they're probably

731
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Speaker 1: And you're right, if you think about the three four

732
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: seeds in the NFC, those are games you're not gonna

733
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Speaker 1: think the wild card, which, assuming the Giants are one

734
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Speaker 1: of them, are gonna be some big underdoggers are gonna

735
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: be even games. One thing we called this the legitimate

736
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Speaker 1: Sea Bowl, at least I did. Anyway, the lines now

737
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Speaker 1: the Lions now had to go into Dallas on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football and then close with the Packers. The Packers

739
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: are in control of this division now. If they went out,

740
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: they win the division, and you wonder if the lines

741
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Speaker 1: will even make the place. I would say that. We've

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Speaker 1: also talked about Green Bay for a couple of weeks

743
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Speaker 1: now as the team in that division that we buy.

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00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the green Bit Packers more.

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00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: Rogers will take the five on the plays left, I

746
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: have some time. Is gonna air it out down the

747
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: middle on the field. He's got Tony Dolson. He caught

748
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: it into he slips it, balls down at the fifteen

749
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Speaker 1: deconds to go fifty nine yard done to pick up.

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Speaker 1: Oh what a dagger shot by Aaron Rodgers to Jordy Nelson.

751
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Lee of Westwood won sports with the call. Rogers

752
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Deep all connection with Nelson set up the

753
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: game winning kick from Mason Crosby in the final seconds,

754
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: securing a seven win for the Packers over the Bears

755
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: at a frigid Soldier field. Chris Wesley, the Packers got

756
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Speaker 1: two twenty six yards and three touchdowns from the running game,

757
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: and then in this one is a time for the

758
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: rest of the NFC to be very afraid of Green Bay. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I think it was time last week to be very

760
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: afraid of Green Bay. And now that they found a

761
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: running game time Montgomery looked like a first round draft

762
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Speaker 1: pick that you just found in your locker room. He

763
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Speaker 1: and Kristin Michael had one of those shot out of

764
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: a cannon runs too. They go over two hundred yards

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00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: combined between the two. But I have to say that

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Speaker 1: last play, Aaron Rodgers sixty yard pass. You're watching that

767
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: game and I think a lot of people are thinking,

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00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: on third and eleven, get the first down. Aaron Rodgers

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00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: is thinking, with the clock running down, I'm going for

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Speaker 1: the field goal right now so we don't have to

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Speaker 1: get it overtime. And he hit it. It was a

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Speaker 1: ballsy throw. And we said a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 1: when they were playing the Texans, Aaron Rodgers, because of

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Speaker 1: the size of his hands and his throwing ability and

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00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: his mobility, he is a great cold weather quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the elements, and you saw it on that throw. His

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00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: longest completion of the season and second longest the last

778
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: two years behind that Hail Murray, Hail Mary against the line.

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00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the throw either, because this happens they

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Speaker 1: have no time outs, clock running. He hit what was it,

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Speaker 1: sixty yards whatever it was, the sixty down field, makes

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00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: the completion. Then they got to get all the way.

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00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: The entire team has gotta get down the field. Rodgers

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00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: has come down. He seen some Packers players coming on

785
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: a personnel shift. He says, get the f off the field,

786
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: so he's in control of everything. He gets them all

787
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Speaker 1: the way down the field, gets everybody set, and then

788
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: spikes the ball with three seconds to play. It was

789
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Speaker 1: precision play by by Aaron Rodgers, who who was being

790
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: maligned as the new Ryan Hoyer in week six? Where

791
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: is he in the envy p talk? Because he is

792
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: carrying the bowl. To me, he's not in it. He's

793
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: not in it because he's in it whether you believe

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00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: it or not. We'll see when the votes are taking

795
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Speaker 1: because this isn't a one two three voting thing. Just

796
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: one person gets a vote. And to me, it's crazy

797
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: to make the case that he's had a better season

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Speaker 1: than Tom Brady, Ryan or Zeke. Those are three strong

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Speaker 1: guys ahead of him. He's in it. He had a

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Speaker 1: bad half the season. That's half the season where he

801
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: didn't play well and the other. But you have to

802
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: consider what he's had around him. He's had no running

803
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: game for the entire he has the best pass protection

804
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: in football. He also has more touchdowns than any quarterback

805
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Speaker 1: in football. He's been great. This isn't about Rogers. It's

806
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: just talking about the other guys seven great years. You

807
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: said the Packers are scary, and they are. On offense,

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00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: they gave up four hundred and fifty yards, twenty nine

809
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: first downs, and in seven points in a big time

810
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: deal with Matt Barkley. Barkley is good, and I think

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00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: there's more weapons on this team than people realizing now,

812
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 1: especially with Jeffrey and Cameron Meridith playing well. But that's

813
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: that's a terrible showing defense. If you allow Matt Barkley

814
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: to sit there in a spread attack in a comeback mode,

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Speaker 1: we've seen for how many weeks in a row now

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00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: that he'll pick your defense apart. Yeah, we shouldn't. We

817
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't kind of overlook the fact that this game was

818
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: a laugher. What what was it? It's the highest step

819
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Speaker 1: to ten in the third quarter, and they got it

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00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: all the way. They tied it up. They even had

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Speaker 1: the ball, I think first and goal with the chance

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Speaker 1: to take the lead. But it's a competitive game. It's

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Speaker 1: ten ten at halftime. It was kind of a back

824
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: and forth game. It was definitely competitive, and as much

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Speaker 1: as the Bear showed, you could still pass on the

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Speaker 1: Packers secondary. Four takeaways for the Packers defense. That's pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty darn good. All right, Let's move on and check

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Speaker 1: in on the Baltimore Ravens, who are looking for a

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Speaker 1: playoff spot. Carson Wentz will set in the gun. He

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Speaker 1: has Byron Marshall to his right for the Ravens, arguably

831
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Speaker 1: the season on the line. Wentz takes a snap, grows

832
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Speaker 1: across the middle de fuct incomplete. The conversion is no good.

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Speaker 1: They're Harry's in the bard and the Ravens play home.

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Speaker 1: Stay long. Jerry Sandusky w b A L. The Eagles

835
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: attempt to steal the game with a two point conversion

836
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: did not go as planned, and the Ravens escaped with

837
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Speaker 1: a win that keeps them in the playoff picture. Mark Seiler.

838
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: The Ravens showed some balance on offense, uh and got

839
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Speaker 1: to eight and six. But they're very fortunate they didn't

840
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: blow their season against a mediocre Eagles team. This was

841
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: very ugly. I need to say one thing. I have

842
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: a close friend in a podcast listener named Matt Hogan

843
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: who I stepped out of my comfort zone in that

844
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: Green Bay game and played part in suggesting that he

845
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: not start Time Montgomery but start Jordan Matthews, who was

846
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: in this Eagles game. I'm not sure we will speak again.

847
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: I hope we will, um, but this game, man, this

848
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Speaker 1: you know you get this in the in this December month.

849
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: But the first half, again, it was another game where

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00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: a where weather was one of the characters involved. The

851
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: wind and the driving rain absolutely wreaked havoc on Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco and Carson wentz early on a little better later on,

853
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: but it leen It forced both teams, I think, to

854
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: take a long look at the ground game and the

855
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: Ravens hundred and fifty one yards on the ground. They

856
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: talked all week about getting balanced, and I think, you know,

857
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: look at the Eagles, their season is heading towards over.

858
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: But if you're Baltimore and you want to be taken

859
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: seriously in the a f C. You've got to try

860
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: to find a way to run the ball as well.

861
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: And I think that we saw Kenneth Dixon last week

862
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: start to emerge as an interesting running back. He did

863
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: that again, it doesn't look that way in the box score.

864
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: He had a dominant drive that helped put them up

865
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: by a bit in this and Terence West looked great.

866
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: He looked fast, and so we've seen that before from him.

867
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: But they do have two running backs they can use Flacco.

868
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: He'll get he'll throw two beautiful passes a game, but

869
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: he he also there are problems with their passing game,

870
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: absolute problems. Uh. They have been inconsistent all season with

871
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco and that remains a problem. I'm taking a

872
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: look at at their path at eight and six. They've

873
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: been consistently bad, except for that one game where he

874
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: got got excited. They are. They have finished the home

875
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: portion of their schedules six and two, so that's not

876
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: where their problems have been. They struggled on the road

877
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: and they end up with two division matchups at Pittsburgh

878
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: at Since that's it, it's Christmas Day, It's Christmas Day.

879
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: It's an NFL Network only game. You know, the corporate chilling.

880
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: That's gotta gotta be the best. It's gotta be the

881
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: most important, best NFL Network only game they've ever had,

882
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: I would have to imagine, because that decides That decides

883
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: the n f C North. It's one of the best

884
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: rivalries in football. It's the sides the NFC North. Pittsburgh wins,

885
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: they win the division, Baltimore wins, they still gotta They're

886
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: still gotta win out. They gotta win in Cincinnati, but

887
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: they'll have control of the division if they win that.

888
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: I want to watch this this one again too, because

889
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh coming up and what they can do on

890
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: the ground. The Ravens, the league's best run a run

891
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: defense allowed Ryan Matthews d and twenty yards and he

892
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: ran well, he ran for big chunks. Uh you know

893
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: they and they essentially said we're shutting down the passing

894
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: game for part of this thing and just let Ryan

895
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Matthews take over. And it was the best performance we've

896
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: seen outside of a Week two game where I think

897
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: Isaiah Crowe l had about a hundred and thirty three.

898
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: They have not allowed any running backs really do that

899
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: outside of Ezekiel Elliot who had about nineties. How challenging

900
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: is the kicking position in the NFL. Justin Tucker is

901
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: the only the second kicker ever to make ten field

902
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: goals over fifty yards in a season. The other one

903
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: was two thousand twelve Blair Walsh, who was now out

904
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: of the league. Wow, but a position. Uh, let's move on,

905
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: And we couldn't move on as a podcast without this man,

906
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: Mr Flame, and of course his economics class in the

907
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: Hague the Netherlands. For all your needs, for all your

908
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: needs in economics throughout the world, head to the Hague,

909
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: the Netherlands. Get in that classroom, roll uh Flame class

910
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: dot that we gotta get Mr Frame clado dot com. Yes,

911
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: maybe he could bike over here somehow, Thank you, Mr Flame.

912
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: Let's check in on those Pittsburgh Steelers in the Cincinnati Bengals.

913
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: And then the shotgun on sucking and Law. We watched

914
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: the throw it. We waits he throws it down the

915
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: old the field for a touchdock for the Petsburgh Steelers,

916
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: e Lar Rudgers. All day law Eli has been opened underneath.

917
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: Ben had enough time to order a pizza and wait

918
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: for it to be delivered. Did anyone else here to

919
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: the screaming people in agony. As Ben was dropping back

920
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: to passing that play, it sounded like the women running

921
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: after me and in that in the sound dropt what

922
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: women you mean? These women? Networks Greg Rosenthal, Bill Hargrove

923
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: and tounch tounch Ilkins w DV with the call uh

924
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: Eli rodgers Is twenty four yard touchdown reception put the

925
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: Steelers ahead for the first time, and it stayed that

926
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: way in over the Bengals in Cincinnati. H credit belongs

927
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh defense, which held the Bengals to just

928
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards in the second half. Greg, Steelers have

929
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: won five in a row and we're able to shake

930
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: up who locked it up right here? Baby? Oh well,

931
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: lollipop for you, baby. I think I've repealed my Cincinnati.

932
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: Why did you call? Very close? Anyway, you're in a

933
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: four game winning keep it in the vault, lock it up.

934
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: See you on Sunday, Greg, your thoughts about this. I

935
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: thought it was a really impressive second half performance by

936
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: a team who did not play well coming out of

937
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: the gates, who were down seventeen three, been totally dominated.

938
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: It's kind of like Cincinnati was like, this is our

939
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: super Bowl. We're gonna play our best twenty minutes of

940
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: football all year, just whitewashing the Steelers after halftime. As

941
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned, thirty eight yards in four drives. That's what

942
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: the defense did, four stops. Here's what the offense did.

943
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: They scored every single possession and then they ended the

944
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: game on a six minute you know, fourteen fifteen played

945
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: drive to close it out. So they settled for field

946
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: goals all day. It kept out. It was a slow

947
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: chipping away, but they finally got the touchdown in the

948
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: fourth and to me, it was like the second half

949
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: was almost perfect. A team, you know, with their backs

950
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: against the wall, played pretty perfect on both sides of

951
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: the ball to go get a tough win. I was

952
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: a little discouraged by the Steelers starting this game, but

953
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: they end up allowing only two, which their defense really

954
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: has impressed me over the past five weeks, and it's

955
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna be tough for them. Stefan too. It left three

956
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: plays into the game, their best defensive player over the

957
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: last month, and they're thin. I think they only had

958
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: four other defensive linemen even up, so you know they're

959
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: thin at that position. But events Lee Harrison had a

960
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: big game. It's you know, almost seems like every week.

961
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Shazier made some big plays, Timmins had the interception,

962
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: and and overall they just put the clamps down on

963
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. And I mean Pittsburgh allowed thirty eight yards

964
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: in the second half. That's crazy. Said that earlier, so

965
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: I think I said it's actually West is the only

966
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: one not to say it. Just wanted to magnify the

967
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: points that you both made. That's the only role that

968
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: And this wasn't like the best Levan Bell game either,

969
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: But then you just start you appreciate how you can

970
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: go to him to grind it out, and then suddenly

971
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: at the end of the game you realize he's a

972
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one yards from scrimmage. Is one of

973
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: those guys. It's just like David in that way, which

974
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: is a lot more than the thirty eight yards allowed

975
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: by Pittsburgh in the second half over the final thirty

976
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: minutes of this game. And that's five straight wins for

977
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: thee Oh yeah, terrible job by the Bengals defense the

978
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: same spot where everyone killed him for all the sloppiness

979
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: last year. They much of the last drive where Pittsburgh

980
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: closes it all out, where penalties from the Bengals keeping

981
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: it drive going. I think there's four penalties on that drive.

982
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: It's who they are. And as you said, the big

983
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: matchup Christmas Day against the Ravens and the Steelers close

984
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: out home against the Browns and what could be a

985
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: historic situation for Cleveland. So Pittsburgh in good position right

986
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: now to go double digit wins and take that division.

987
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: Let's check in with another team that's hoping to make

988
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs in the a f C in a game

989
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: that was played on Saturday night. Blockland Edwards who putted away.

990
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: Let's it go from his own blocked, blocked the way

991
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: the ball rolling three. This is an opportunity for a score,

992
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: and it has a score touchdown. Walt Aikin's into the

993
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: end zone on the block. He got the block and

994
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: the score for the Dolphins. Great called by Scott Graham

995
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: and Mike Mayock. And didn't hear Mike there? Westwood One

996
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: sports Matt Moore through for four touchdowns in his first

997
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: starting place of Ryan Tannell, and the Jets melted down

998
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: with a series of blunders in the second half. The

999
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: final score in favor of the Dolphins at the meadow Lands. Uh,

1000
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: this is a game. Nice nice showing by Miami here

1001
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: which over they overcame a slow start. Jets were up

1002
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: seven nothing after their first possession and going back into

1003
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: the red zone in their second possession, they forced a

1004
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty fumble and then they kind of went to

1005
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: work and I think they scored thirty four the next

1006
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: thirty seven points and away we go. And here's a

1007
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: nice stat for all your Jets fans out there. And

1008
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: as someone that was at the Fake Spike game on November,

1009
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: Matt Moore the first Dolphins QB too throw for four

1010
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns against the Jets since Dan Marino in the Fake

1011
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: Spike game. Great job by More and West. We talked

1012
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: about it on Thursday. Ken, Matt moore still play has

1013
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: been so rusty and mothballs. He proved in this game

1014
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be this good every game, but he

1015
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: can do it. Yeah. I thought he made some really

1016
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: impressive touch passes. I want to see his arm strength

1017
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: against a better defense. Well, the interception came when he underthrew,

1018
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: and he had one other pretty bad underthrow. He doesn't

1019
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: have a big arm. He's Tony Romo light, you know.

1020
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: He that's kind of his style. But he can make

1021
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: those plays where where he extends a little bit and

1022
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: he throws it across his body a touch pass in

1023
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: the tight window. He made some tough throws in this game.

1024
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: I thought he in the watching the Cardinals game from

1025
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: last week when he came in, he had one money

1026
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: throw that kept him in that game that they needed

1027
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: to win. So the maybe the DNA was there to

1028
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: a small degree, but it was completely understandable to want

1029
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: to have to see a full game from him. That's

1030
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: what you asked a backup quarterback to do. Yet we're

1031
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: surprised when it happened and you only need one more

1032
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: win probably now with with Denver losing that game, that

1033
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: that was big for them. They're gonna be in Buffalo

1034
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: that that's a big game for Miami. But Miami's winning.

1035
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: You know a defense, I mean Cameron Wakes having agree

1036
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: Sue was great in that game. To their their secondary

1037
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: is playing well, kind of a no name secondary, but

1038
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: they Davy and Howard and Tony Lippetts, you know they're

1039
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: playing well. Here's my only concern now is that Matt

1040
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: Moore again, we're playing the Jets team that's kind of

1041
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: packed it in for the season. A decent guys can

1042
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: look good. Good guys could look amazing. We'll see what

1043
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: Matt Moore looks like when the competition stiffens. But also

1044
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: J and G. I had another kind of mediocre game.

1045
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: He has come down to earth a little bit. Uh,

1046
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: and and that makes you wonder if you're gonna try

1047
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and perhaps advanced possibly and you

1048
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: have no running game and Matt Moore a quarterback. And

1049
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: by the way, well, we're not gonna see Ryan Tannehill

1050
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: this season. I'm sorry. They showed him on the sideline

1051
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: with a cane and they said that he has a

1052
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: plaster cast from his hip to his ankle. When you

1053
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: have that means you have terrors in your a c L. Well,

1054
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: it also supported that his MCL tore off the bone.

1055
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: It's like this guy coming back week seventeen. I'm sorry

1056
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: they uh. I was listening to you that not to

1057
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: pivot here too much, but ahead, pivot. These these Jets

1058
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: games at home don't even feel like NFL games right now.

1059
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: And that makes me think of something you said earlier.

1060
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: You think now Todd Bowls, maybe in a little more

1061
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: trouble again, he's not quite out of the Woods. I

1062
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: think if you had to, uh go to the desert

1063
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: uh and take a guess, I would say he'll be back.

1064
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: But this again was another embarrassing effort in front of

1065
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: a sparse home crowd. But it's not his fault. I mean,

1066
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: there is no talent on this team. The Jets are

1067
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: the rare double double that you don't want. They're a

1068
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: talent poor roster that also has been amongst the most

1069
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: injured rosters in the league. And when you take those

1070
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: two things, you're gonna lose a lot of game. Do

1071
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: you trust the owner who you know, this is an

1072
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: owner that likes shiny things. He we we've seen that

1073
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: he's gone after certain things before because they make him

1074
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: feel good. Uh, In terms of the roster and the

1075
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: coaching staff, do you think that he could be well,

1076
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: we get one of these bizarre reports where you know,

1077
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson reached out to Jim Harbaugh or reached out

1078
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: to person X, wouldn't be surprised. I mean, I think

1079
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: that's problem. What you're saying, Greg is right in the

1080
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: sense that apathy has taken hold in the fan base.

1081
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: These fans are angry, and then because of the just

1082
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: bright Bryce Patty, who has been very spotty so far

1083
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: to get that that crushing uh double hit from and

1084
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: Dom consumed Cameron Wake. I hope we at least get

1085
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: to see him the rest of the season, because I've

1086
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: seen enough of Ryan Fitzpatrick, me and Keith my dad

1087
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: on the phone this morning. We couldn't I mean seeing

1088
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: him back in the fields kind of like a smirk

1089
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: on his face because even he gets the joke that

1090
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: why am I in the game again? Uh, it's just

1091
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: a sad one of the most depressing Jet seasons in

1092
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: my lifetime, and that is saying something. And Keith wanted

1093
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: me to relay the message. The Jets deserve zero time,

1094
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: so let's let's let's cut it right now, go ahead. Also,

1095
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: the idea that the Dolphins only need one more win

1096
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: neither of those games is I don't know. I won't

1097
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: consider them a favorite in in Buffalo or against the

1098
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: Patriots to close out the season. Alright, speaking Buffalo, let's

1099
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: check in the snap, Hirod fires over the end. Don't

1100
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: got a mad white O when Trump's clay and it

1101
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: is touchdown, touchdown Buffalo. They waited a long time, but

1102
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: they signal touchdown on a sliding catch by the tight

1103
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: end Charles Clay his second touchdown in as many weeks.

1104
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: John Murphy think it was a touchdown. Bro w g

1105
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: r Rex Ryan might be a dead man walking is

1106
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: one report. Um had it earlier this morning, but his

1107
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: players haven't quit on the coach. The Bills took care

1108
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: of is this with a win over the Browns in

1109
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: Orchard Park, keeps Buffalo's flickering playoff hopes alive and sent

1110
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland to Owen fourteen with two games to play. Mark

1111
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: there was a depressing glow all around this game up

1112
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: both sides. Wasn't there? Well? Yes, I would say that. Buffalo, though,

1113
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: made it very clear. You know, every week it's what's

1114
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: the team Cleveland might pet Maybe it's Buffalo in Buffalo

1115
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: this week. Nope, not happening, and it's not gonna happen

1116
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: all season, I don't think, because Buffalo is clearly the

1117
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: better team. In every game the Browns play, you find

1118
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: out how much better other NFL teams are than you.

1119
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: And this game went pretty much according to the script.

1120
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: You'd imagine la Shawn McCoy ran right through them. The

1121
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: defense battered Robert Griffin with five sacks and I you know,

1122
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: for me, I don't know why the Bills want to

1123
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: fire Rex Ryan unless there's a lot of stuff going

1124
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. I don't see them as a

1125
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: team that is quitting on their coach, which was an

1126
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: issue last year in Buffalo. I don't they want a

1127
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: systemic change from within. It sounds like it sounds like

1128
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: battle to keep his job. He'll win this power battle

1129
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: and get one more shot at it, which Greg is

1130
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: a little it'll be the third coach that he's at

1131
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: least part of the hiring. He wasn't, you know, officially

1132
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: the guy that uh for chan Gailey. I don't believe

1133
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: or I'm I'm mixing up all these Bills coaches. There's

1134
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: been so many, but but it's sound it really sounds

1135
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: like he's the one. I mean, who knows, but he's

1136
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: the one win in the battle, as he said, But

1137
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: what has he done to earn all this rope? And

1138
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in this organization because

1139
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: they have a chance they'll go nine and seven and

1140
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: they want eight and eight last year. They're not an

1141
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: embarrassing franchise. But I think ownership and its new ownership

1142
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: West thinks that this team is way better than eight, eight,

1143
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: nine and seven, and that's not necessarily true, and they

1144
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: might not be the right people to be able to

1145
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: know this. Yeah, I don't think that this organization is

1146
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: close to overtaking the Patriots in the a f CFC East.

1147
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're I don't know. Why don't

1148
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: you stay with Rex? Well, it's it's strange because you

1149
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: look at this organization's history and they have one winning

1150
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: record since two thousand four. So if Rex makes it

1151
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: here two years without a losing record, and that was

1152
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: Doug Moron by the way, if if they make if

1153
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: if you know, Rex is kind of keeping it going.

1154
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: It hasn't been too bad Doug the interim coach, and

1155
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Jack's is his plan gets a focus now they said

1156
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: they'll announce it. I mean, if you look at that staff,

1157
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: it makes sense, it makes sense that that would be

1158
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: the guy. All right, Mark you again, you're wearing the

1159
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: brown sweater. I'm telling you, your your headspace is really good,

1160
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: better than i'd expect it to be right now. And

1161
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: the fact that you're even playfully wearing a brown sweater,

1162
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: you are you're okay still with what's going on here?

1163
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: I well, in terms of what the team is trying

1164
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: to do well, No, no small picture that small you're

1165
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: really now and sixteen has a better chance of happening

1166
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: than not. It does. And you know, again, there's only

1167
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: so many things in life you can control. I tweeted

1168
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: a couple of things out about the team over the

1169
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: weekend say this, Uh, Browns fans are incredibly passionate. I

1170
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: I am. I think it's pretty honorable that they're still

1171
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: as plugged in as they are about the future and everything.

1172
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I mean, I'm going through it as

1173
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: a fan, but to be someone that maybe goes to

1174
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: that stadium week after week, I just think it's it's unbelievable,

1175
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: not just this year, but what they put up with

1176
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: the entire century, not to mention what happened for the

1177
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: last twenty years before the century. So it's I mean,

1178
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: we talk about all these fan bases that get put

1179
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: through put through the ringer. There are a number of them, Cincinnati,

1180
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: San Diego, a whole bunch, and I just say, you know,

1181
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: hang with it. You got no other choice. Well, the

1182
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: NFL is the only league in the world you can

1183
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: even get away with because the Browns don't deserve these fans.

1184
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: The Browns are are are a travesty in general. I mean,

1185
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: if you're looking at the long life of them, they

1186
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: don't deserve to be supported. That the only the only

1187
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: reason they even exist is because of these fans. I

1188
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: I've just never met one that midship jumped to another time.

1189
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: And that's think that just loyalty. Maybe it is to

1190
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: a fault, but it is incredible loyalty and from the

1191
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: bigger picture perspective. And I read a Mary kay Cabot

1192
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: column last week that she she felt strongly that there

1193
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: should be a a person with real personnel abilities ahead

1194
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: of Sashi that oversees the football operation. You can make

1195
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: the argument this year one of Sashi has been bad

1196
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: because he he went through the machinations of cutting all

1197
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: those veterans. But you still you gotta leave enough on

1198
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: the bone to avoid Owen sixteen. You can't put your

1199
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: organization through It's It's also like with all these teams,

1200
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: you look back and say, why didn't they resign player X?

1201
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: Player X was never going to resign with this team ever.

1202
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they lost guys that were so far out

1203
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: of the building by the time last offseason. You think

1204
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: there needs to be a tweak in the front office.

1205
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know there are There are multiple

1206
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: people in there with long histories of personnel evaluation. They

1207
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: don't need to add more cooks to the kitchen. Too

1208
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: high picks now that Eagles pick gets to get it right.

1209
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of r G three in the NFL.

1210
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I have never seen a quarterback with

1211
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: poor thanks for for protecting his body when that clown

1212
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: ran out of bounds into the kicking net. I'm like,

1213
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: what is this enough? If they I don't think he

1214
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: will start, you're not winning in Pittsburgh. So they got

1215
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: one real chance here and that's home next week to

1216
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: San Diego. Try to try to put the other players

1217
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: who don't want to own sixteen on them for the

1218
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: rest of their lives. Try to help them out. Think

1219
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: about I totally agree, and I think that comes down

1220
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: to the coach saying we thought this was gonna work,

1221
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: it's not. There's one team that you could argue is

1222
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: worse than the Browns. It is the forty Niners. Let's

1223
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: see how they fared against the Atlanta Falcons on the road.

1224
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: Impty set for Ryan, forty Niners trying to heat him up.

1225
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: Matt gonna loop it for the end zone. Hooper there

1226
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: call it touch down. They took the big rookie all

1227
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: the way up the ladder arch. I'll tell you what

1228
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: the how they faired. They didn't even get on the plane.

1229
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: West Durham w z g C. Matt Ryan through for

1230
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: two eight six yards and two scores, and DeVante Freeman

1231
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: went over a hundred yards with three touchdowns. So the

1232
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: Falcons roll to over the forty Niners. Um, you know

1233
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: we we divvy up the Game's a little peek and

1234
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: pull back the curtain. You pull back the curtain and

1235
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: you'll let the people know how you make this okay? Um.

1236
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: I was assigned to watching this. Uh happened? I don't know.

1237
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: I was assigned to watching this game, and once it

1238
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: hit twenty one nothing in the first quarter, I was like,

1239
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: screw this. You don't you know what you know? The Browns,

1240
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: the Browns fest don't deserve have to put up with

1241
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: their team. The old zuser doesn't have to watch the

1242
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: forty Niners. So I bailed, and I have no regrets

1243
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: because this was basically a practice for the Falcons to

1244
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: wipe out a forty Niners team that's given up. They're

1245
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: gonna clean house all through the organization, both on the

1246
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: roster and in the front office and the head coach.

1247
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: So why would I plug in on this game, which

1248
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't teach me anything. I don't think you can

1249
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: have any major takeaways from the Falcons after the last

1250
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: two weeks against the Rams and forty Niners. But it does.

1251
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: The way they've played reinforces the notion that Matt Ryan

1252
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: is so good and Kyle Shannon is so good about

1253
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: spreading this offense around right and make even without Julio Jones,

1254
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: Aldrick Robinson and Taylor Gabriel, and then the backfield duo

1255
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: was phenomenal that this offense isn't just dependent on Julio Jones.

1256
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: They had nine different pass catchers in this game. They're

1257
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: the best offense in the NFL and they have been

1258
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: all season. Gift from the scheduling gods that you know

1259
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: they have. They had lost two of those three things

1260
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: are going down a little bit. And and but they

1261
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: did what great teams do is they waxed them earlier

1262
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: and West, You and I were in lockstep on said

1263
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: Julio Jones in this game, you got a perfect opportunity.

1264
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: The next day Atlanta announced it, and what happens. Aldrick

1265
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: Robinson goes for four for one eleven, Taylor Gabriel three

1266
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: for sixty in a touch. Taylor Gabriel is is their

1267
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: Tyreek hill on offense. He can take any touch to

1268
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: the house and he makes a lot of guys miss.

1269
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: Let's move on and check out to also rans the

1270
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Saints and the Cardinals stop. This is a results based business.

1271
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: In the ten the five in for a touchdown for

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01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: the Saints is Brandon Cooks, the youngster out of Oregon State,

1273
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: got behind everybody and as Brady would say, you keep

1274
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: running the ball, play fake. Everybody sucks up and there

1275
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: goes to throw behind the secondary for sixty five yards

1276
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: gets it right back. Very concise description. How did Saints

1277
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals turn into the last game mentioned on a week

1278
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: fifteen podcast, I'm am just saying, shame on them, Shame

1279
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: on that. Not only not only that, we're gonna go

1280
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: to We're gonna go We're gonna pause here, We're gonna

1281
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: check in on the upcoming Scorpion episode. That's how much

1282
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: disdain for the efforts of these teams, which was the

1283
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: Monday before Christmas in a quaint forest belly. You don't

1284
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: keep fating and forget you ever saw this. There's some

1285
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: will on bad guys. That was a gun shot crush

1286
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: the Scorpion Winter finale. Some guys trying to put this

1287
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: man now for a long Winner's naw, I should have

1288
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: years without fear, officially on the naughty list, But who

1289
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: is that harget audience? Now they're just messing with us.

1290
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: They actually know this is a bit and they're like,

1291
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: let's raise the stakes. I think out of my seven brothers,

1292
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: at least five of them could be writers for this show.

1293
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: This is by far my favorite show that I've never seen.

1294
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna plug in soon. Wells watch Binge, watch you

1295
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: know episodes nine pm, eight Central only on CBS. Brandon

1296
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: Cooks went off for a hundred and eighty six yards

1297
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: and they're not a sponsor, by the way, I just

1298
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: want to say we I'm just really excited about Scorpions

1299
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: season so far as we head towards the winter. For

1300
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: so excited that you've never watched an episode. The commercials

1301
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: are great. Brandon Cooks went off for a hundred and

1302
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: eighty six yards and two of Drew brees is four

1303
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: touchdown passes and a forty to forty one win over

1304
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. That counted as the NFL's high scoring game.

1305
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: By the way, the Saints were a part of the

1306
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteens highest scoring game as well. Does everybody

1307
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: remember the game the Panther Carolina Panthers incorrect Saints Giants,

1308
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: I believe nailed it back when the Giants had an offense. Greg,

1309
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: No defense, isn't it funny? Greg? Another quote unquote great

1310
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: defense gets exposed this time. So that's that you took it?

1311
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: Took the point right out of my mouth. Uh no,

1312
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It's the one positive thing from this game.

1313
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: Enough with the top ranked Cardinals defense, Cardinals defense is fine.

1314
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: We don't need they were you know, people were saying, oh,

1315
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,479
Speaker 1: breeze put forty eight points on the number one ranked defense.

1316
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: This is not the number one ranked defens And you

1317
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: know what, the Saints knew, So they put up as

1318
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: many yards and points as possible to knock them out

1319
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: of that spot because it's a joke to called Cardinals

1320
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: are not a shutdown defense. They gave thirty eight up

1321
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: to the Falcons. They've been giving up plenty lately and

1322
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: the Saints. This is a game almost both teams lose,

1323
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: because this just reminds Saints fans, oh, what happened to

1324
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: this offense the last two weeks when they did absolutely

1325
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: nothing in the two big games of the year. Two

1326
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: biggest takeaways for me, David Johnson breaks the record for

1327
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: most consecutive games over a hundred yards from scrimmage. Great season.

1328
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: And second thing, the notion that came out of nowhere

1329
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 1: that Carson Palmer might retire after the season. He said

1330
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: he he wants to come back next year. He's playing

1331
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 1: it on coming back next year, And yeah, that's big.

1332
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: Is there any reason why they would say we're good Carson?

1333
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: They can't really, because of all, his contract is fully guaranteed.

1334
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: They're not going to come up with Carson Palmer. And

1335
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: I would think that would lead to Larry Fitzgerald coming

1336
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: back as well, because he's not coming back to catch

1337
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: passes from And it's not late December, by the way,

1338
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: unless there's some wacky Sean Payton coaching rumors going on

1339
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: in national reports, it's always a little sketchy report. Not

1340
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: even gonna say where it was not a particularly believable report,

1341
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: but it's just interesting that's out there. It said that,

1342
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: it said that they might be willing to trade him.

1343
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: It's just like what happened to coaching trades. I thought

1344
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: that wasn't an option anymore. It seems like there's some

1345
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: kind of technicality that they can get in under. I

1346
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, that's it for that game. Let's move

1347
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: on to Sunday Night football. Sunday Night second down and

1348
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: Elliott and Elliott end of the in zone. I love

1349
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: watching great offensive lines work together and just carve out

1350
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: that big hole and then you go jump and promote

1351
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: a very good cause down there on the end zone.

1352
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: Salvation Army. Everybody throws something in because there's a good

1353
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: chance of Ezekiel Elliott's gonna be in there. Zeke Elliott

1354
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty nine yards on the ground with

1355
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: that touchdown that you just heard, and Dak Press got

1356
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: thirty two for thirty six, two seventy nine yards and

1357
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: a touchdown rushing the Dallas Cowboys a six to twenty

1358
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: winner over the Tampa Bay Bucking Buccaneers. Oh we locked

1359
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: it up. Oh we failed the first lock off in

1360
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: a big spot, Chris Westling. I repealed two locks to

1361
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: get where I needed to be, and I felt good.

1362
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 1: The Cowboys beat your Bucks. Oh yeah, they are my bucks.

1363
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: I took them over from Greg for a week. You

1364
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: can have him back. Um this lollipop, I hold this

1365
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: for me. I have gotten one yet, there's one for you.

1366
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: They go to Dallas, what do you expect? I locked

1367
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: him up. I expected a win. We were they were

1368
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 1: in this game. The Cowboys got out to a seventeen

1369
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: to six lead, but the timp Bay Bucks outscored the

1370
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: Cowboys fourteen zip in the third quarter and entered the

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01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: fourth of the lead. But Daniel Bailey Um ended up kicking.

1372
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: I call him Daniel, some people call him Dan. Kicked

1373
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: three field goals in the fourth period in the Cowboys

1374
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: defense tightened. Uh. Mark Sesler, uh, giving the Cowboys the victory.

1375
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: You are, Craig wo I have literally no voice at

1376
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: this point, so I'm gonna let you guys break it down.

1377
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: But I want to tell you one thing. We are

1378
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: entering week sixteen, and only one defense in the NFL

1379
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: has done what we've said over and over all these

1380
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: other teams would do to Dallas, and that's the New

1381
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 1: York Giants the only team that shut this team down.

1382
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: Enough with trying to project all these teams to take

1383
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: them out, I'm not gonna happen. Vikings pretty much, they

1384
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: did not take them out at all. A beautiful vocal

1385
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: that's just incredible? Is that Dave Grohl on drums? Yeah,

1386
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: I paid for tape row with all my new money. Well,

1387
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: that's way better than the chick I don't know who

1388
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: she is? Who does the real Sunday nighted? I love

1389
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: this when West pretends that to know the West pretend

1390
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: not to know pop culture guys. One of my favorite things.

1391
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: It's like the country lady who thinks she's pop, who

1392
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: has nice legs. That's all I know about. You know,

1393
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: women more than just their body parts. Wait a minute, anyway,

1394
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: Dad doesn't nice legs. We're getting Indeed, listen, she's a

1395
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: beautiful woman, but it's not just about that. She's a

1396
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: great singer and a charismatic young individual. It's a horrible,

1397
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: wretched song. Sydneys is much better this Dak Prescott. I'll

1398
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: tell you what about Dako thirty six? You do the math?

1399
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: I can't. But that is the second best percentage in

1400
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL in a one game minimum

1401
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 1: with thirty pass attempts. Any talk sorry skip, uh sorry Shannon,

1402
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 1: that Tony Romo will be playing. Uh for performance reasons

1403
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: related to Dak Prescott out the window in this game,

1404
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: Greg in my opinion, because in a big spot, Dak

1405
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: Prescott looked as good as he's looked. He he played

1406
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: like he's played the rest of the season. I mean,

1407
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: they're not going deep down the field. He's making smart decision,

1408
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: he's going through his read. He's getting protected pretty well.

1409
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean he he completed thirty two passes and it

1410
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: doesn't go over three yards. You've you've compared him to

1411
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson before. To me, that's a Russell Wilson type

1412
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 1: of stat line too. You know, uh, twenty yards rushing

1413
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: with the rushing touchdowns and and no mistakes, no mistakes

1414
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: at all. That's the Russell Wilson blueprint. That's how they

1415
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: developed him in Seattle. Lean on the running game, in

1416
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: the defense and the defense. David Irving, who hasn't been

1417
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: playing every down snaps this year, but when they do

1418
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: play him, he's their most disruptive guy as a pass rusher.

1419
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 1: Two sacks, five quarterback hits and a batted pass of

1420
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. In this game, he was everywhere

1421
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: in the second half. He's got to be on the

1422
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: field more, you would think if he's gonna be for

1423
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: a team that's one of their weaknesses is getting a

1424
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: real consistent pass rush. He he just looked like one

1425
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: of the biggest, most intimidating guys on It looks like

1426
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: a superhero. You want more of that, dude. He looks

1427
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: like a like a Pete Julius Peppers, and he was

1428
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: the key. You know. Deak Prescott had a great game

1429
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: at all, but the defense won them the game. It

1430
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 1: is rare to see a team like the Bucks get

1431
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: the ball five times in the fourth quarter with a

1432
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 1: chance to score a touchdown or or to take the lead.

1433
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: Five times. Here's what they did, three and out, three

1434
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: and out, three and out, three and out interception. That's wild.

1435
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: They had five yards total on those five drives. So

1436
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: Dallas didn't really need to go crazy putting this game away.

1437
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: They just need to kick some field goals and let

1438
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: the defense. I feel like in that Saints game last week, though,

1439
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: we've seen indications that this Bucks offense is as interesting

1440
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: in dynamic as it can be at times, it can

1441
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: also go very very quiet because of their offensive line.

1442
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: And all right, let's be carefully here in now, Bucks,

1443
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 1: with the excitement of that five game winning streak. Now

1444
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror, you got at Saints, and

1445
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: you don't know who you're gonna get with the Saints

1446
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: at Christmas. If you're either gonna get uh, the offense

1447
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: that cannot be stopped, as we saw on Sunday putting

1448
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: up a fifty burgero most against the Cardinals, but in

1449
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: in New Orleans that's not gonna be an easy matchup.

1450
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: Then they end up home against the Panthers at eight

1451
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: and six. They're still you would say, in pretty good

1452
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: position here. But it's are they going to the playoffs? Guy,

1453
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: I'll ask you, is the biggest Buck supporter in the room.

1454
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: I tend to say no, because I don't think they

1455
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: are in a good position there behind the Redskins and

1456
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 1: the Packers. Now, I mean, let's let's assume the Redskins win.

1457
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: Those are two good teams with pretty manageable schedules that

1458
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: are now ahead of them. So even if they won

1459
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: those two games, the Bucks are are far from guaranteed

1460
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: to get in Zeke Elliott in the thick of the

1461
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: m v P race. Uh season higher, career high, whatever,

1462
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: however you wanna call it, are fifty rushing yards not

1463
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: only with two games left to play to break Eric

1464
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: Dickerson's rookie rushing rushing record. It's wild. He'll get it.

1465
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: He will. All right, cowboys back on the winning track.

1466
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: We'll see if they can close out and get that

1467
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: number one seed. Um, that is it for the Sunday

1468
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: recap show. Great work, gentlemen, and gentle lady behind the glass.

1469
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: Gentle lady never caught up. The society's not gonna have

1470
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: You would assume that a lady is gentle if we're

1471
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: calling her a lady. Typically that's a good point. Maybe

1472
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: maybe not true, but I mean be an assumption. Christmas week, Um,

1473
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: we will have our Tuesday show and then our Thursday show,

1474
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: and then you'll hear from us on Saturday, not Sunday.

1475
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: So that's a schedule for the upcoming week. Let's go

1476
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: home for now. Mark, where does that sweater come out again? Now?

1477
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,799
Speaker 1: Or is that it? You will never see this article

1478
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: of clothing ever again? Really? Come on, you said, ironically

1479
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: if they go in sixteen, bring it back for next

1480
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: year at the very last, maybe every costive. It is festive.

1481
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 1: I cannot deny that it can be a new sort

1482
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 1: of holiday tradition that way, nor will I and West.

1483
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: Before we go, I should mention that West of this

1484
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: officially canceled, like Christmas being canceled. It's unthinkable, but West

1485
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: of is canceled this year. Cincinnati eliminated from playoff contention

1486
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: today December eighteen. It's like the year without Santa Claus.

1487
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really bumming me out. That's a it's

1488
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: a sad thing. It's a sad thing, all right, Sorry,

1489
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: but thank you for that gesture. Mark, Mark just West

1490
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: lollipop West refuses it. I don't deserve in a noble way.

1491
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 1: Let's go home. This is Dan Hanson signing off four

1492
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: Oh this little shot out to Debby, the beautiful, educated,

1493
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: talented little Debbie fan of the Oakland Raiders. Do we

1494
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: still the rights to this? We're not sure about that. Yeah,

1495
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 1: everything's clear. Stan Hands is signing off for a Quiet Storm,

1496
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: The Mailman, the Boss and New Money behind the Glass.

1497
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 1: I love a banger. That was Little Debbie featuring New Money.

1498
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god explet of lated. All right, that's it

1499
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: until Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, I'm a link about a real day. Ready.

1500
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: If I told you that I'm ready for the real deal.

1501
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: How you feel? What you tell me? What you tell me.

1502
01:16:52,080 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: Maybe you're the only one trying to keep on my

1503
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: tight ship, but I'm tired of wasting my time. And

1504
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: you'll be moving like bost and your crime is matching

1505
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: my grind.