1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin on Capitol Hill, where debate continues on 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: President Trump's three point three trillion dollar tax and spending 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: cut bill. Senators have been up all night and into 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: this morning voting on amendments to the legislation, including clean 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: energy and medicaid provisions that could upset fiscal conservatives, but 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: Kansas Republican Roger Marshall says he is confident the bill 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: will get over the line. 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: I sure think we do have the votes. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 4: I think we cannot let this moment pass. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: To have the largest tax savings in American history, the 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: average American family back home is going to save one 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month, but Democrats like Mark Kelly of 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Arizona are trying to slow the process. 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 5: We'll be here as long as it takes for us 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 5: to show the American people that this is bad policy. 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: This is going to kick seventeen million people off of 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 5: their healthcare to give a big giant tax cut to 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 5: the wealthiest Americans. 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 2: Well, right now, eight Republicans are holding out their votes 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: on the bill. Two of them, Rand Paul and Tom 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: Tillis are solidly against it. Senate majority leader John Thune 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: can afford to lose only one more and advance the 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: bill back to the House before President Trump's July fourth deadline. 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Nathan a new analysis of the Senate's tax cut 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: bill points to a potential benefit gap in the legislation. 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: Economist at Eale University's Budget Lab I found the bill 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: would cost the bottom twenty percent of taxpayers an average 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: of five hundred and sixty dollars a year, while the 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: top twenty percent would see a boost of six fifty 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: five dollars. The analysis finds the poorest Americans would bear 35 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: the brunt of cuts to Medicaid in food stamps, while 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: higher earners would see the biggest benefit from tax cuts 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: and an expanded state and local tax deduction well Karen. 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen is optimistic that the tax bill 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: will get done in time. He spoke with Bloomberg Shineli Bassic. 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: I'm confident that the bill is going to progress as 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: is over the next few hours, and it'll be on 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: the President's desk to sign on July fourth. So Senate 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: will vote pass it over to the House. We've seen 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 4: incredible leadership, and this is what leadership looks like. 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: That was Treasury Secretary Scott Besson speaking of Bloomberg Sholly 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: Basset yesterday, and for the full conversation head to the 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: Bloomberg podcast channel on YouTube. 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: Nathan, the war of words between President Trump and Elon 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: Musk has exploded into public view once again. I'm Bloomberge 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: John Tucker following that story for us John, good morning and. 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 6: Good morning Karen Well. Overnight, President Trump posted on social 52 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 6: media Elon may get more subsidy than any human being 53 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 6: in history by far. And without subsidies, Elon would probably 54 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 6: have to close up shop and head back to South Africa. 55 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 6: He went on to post, no more rocket launches, satellites 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 6: or electric car production in our country would save a fortune. 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 6: Perhaps we should have Doze take a good hard look 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 6: at this. 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: Well. 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 6: This all comes after Musks land the Senate's latest version 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 6: of Trump's multi trillion dollar tax bill, warning that cuts 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 6: to ev and other clean energy credits would be incredibly 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 6: destructive to the country. And not to be outdone, Musk 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 6: is threatening to target nearly every sitting Republican in Congress 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 6: who has signal support for a President Trump's multi trillion 66 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 6: dollar tax bill. Members of the GOP may be asking 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 6: themselves who they're more afraid of. The President of the 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 6: United States. Are the world's richest man? For now? Investors 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 6: are the ones suffering pre market the shares of Tesla 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 6: they are most active right now, down four and a 71 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 6: half percent. You know you, Yorkom John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: All right, John, thanks for that. Now the latest on 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: the trade front. Bloomberg News has learned that the European 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: Union may be willing to accept the trade arrangement with 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: the US ahead of President Trump's deadline. Let's go to 76 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: London get the latest of Bloomberg's un Potts. Good morning, Ewan, Nathan, 77 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: and Karen. 78 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 7: It's the world's most important bilateral trading relationship. And now 79 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 7: Bloomberg has learned that the European Union is willing to 80 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 7: accept a arrangement with the US that includes Donald Trump's 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 7: universal ten percent tariff on many of his exports, but 82 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 7: it does want low rates on key sectors including pharmaceuticals, alcohol, semiconductors, 83 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 7: and commercial aircraft, which told the European Commission views the 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 7: deal as slightly favoring the US, but it's still something 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 7: that it could agree to without a deal. Is just 86 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 7: eight days until all European Union exports are set to 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 7: be hit with a tariff of fifty percent in London. 88 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 7: I'm you in pots Bloomberg Radio. 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 8: Ew and thanks. 90 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, President Trump is threatening to ramp up tariffs on Japan. 91 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: I mean again more with Bloomberg Trades are Brendan Murray. 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 9: He's kind of. 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 10: Calling Japan's bluff here and saying, you won't take our 94 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 10: rice exports. Therefore, you're just going to have to accept 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 10: the reciprocal tariff that I'm going to impose on you. Now, 96 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 10: whether that's going to motivate Japan to get a better 97 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 10: offer on the table between now and July ninth is 98 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 10: a whole nother question, and people would doubt that Japan 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 10: is going to cave on that. The big issue for 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 10: Japan is getting around those twenty five percent auto tariffs. 101 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 10: Japan is obviously a big exporter to the US of automobiles, 102 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 10: and something like eighty percent of the US's trade deficit 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 10: with Japan is tied to automobiles. So Trump really wants 104 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 10: to bring that down, and Japan is not willing to 105 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 10: give that up very easily. 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: Bloomberry's Brandon Murray says talks between the US and Japan 107 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: are expected to continue despite the president's latest threat. 108 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: Karen Let's turn to markets now. The S and P 109 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: five hundred is coming off its best quarter since twenty 110 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: twenty three. As we head into the second half of 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: this year, the index is trading at an all time high, 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: soaring twenty five percent from its early April low. Tally 113 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: Lejay is chief market strategistic the Wealth Consulting Grip. 114 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 11: I know it sounds silly, and I'm a wild eye optimist, 115 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 11: but by the dips has worked since the inception of 116 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 11: the S and P five hundred, folks, and we know 117 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 11: that because the chart goes from the lower left to 118 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 11: the upright across time. It depends on your holding period, 119 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 11: and our horizon tends to be pretty long. So I 120 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 11: think it's always a good time, even at all time 121 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 11: highs like this, to put new money to work in stocks. 122 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: Chally leje with the Wealth Consulting Group. Meantime, this has 123 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: been the worst half of a year for the dollar 124 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy three. The US currency is down ten 125 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: point eight percent so far this year. 126 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: Nathan FN Chair J Powell and other top central bankers 127 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: are set to discuss monetary policy at the European Central 128 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: Bank's annual retreat in Portugal, and we get a preview 129 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: with Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 130 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 8: It's an all star central banker panel that may shed 131 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 8: some light on the path for global interest rates given 132 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 8: the trumpe tariff chaos. Federal Reserve Chair J. Powell is 133 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 8: probably the main attraction, but is there much new he 134 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 8: can say until the administration makes its policies clear. In Japan, 135 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 8: Kajo Yueeda is trying to navigate a tricky corridor, raising 136 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 8: interest rates while trying to keep the economy on course. 137 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 8: Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey is dealing with stubborn 138 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 8: inflation and signs of weakening growth, and ECB President Christine 139 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 8: Legard is facing headwinds from US policies and European defense 140 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 8: spending needs. Odds are we'll learn more about all of 141 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 8: their problems than what the solutions may be. Michael McKee, 142 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Radio. 143 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: Time Now for a look at some of the other 144 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: stories making news in New York and around the world. 145 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. Michael, 146 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: good morning, Good morning Karen. 147 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 9: A jury returns to deliberate for a second day today 148 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 9: at the sex trafficking trial of music mogul Sean Diddy Combs. 149 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 9: Yesterday got off to a rugged start and all were 150 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 9: into deliberations. The four persons sent a note saying they 151 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 9: were concerned one of the jurors could not follow the 152 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 9: judge's instructions. Eventually, jurors deliberated over five hours on Monday. 153 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 9: They are deciding where the prosecutors have proven racketeering, conspiracy 154 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 9: and sex trafficking charges. Former prosecutor Bernardo Vielono. 155 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: The jury is accident. If an individual acts for a 156 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: control substance and the person hands. 157 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 8: It over, is it distribution. I would be concerned if 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 8: I was Sean Colmes, because you don't get to that 159 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 8: predicate act unless you have already found that there's a 160 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 8: racketeering conspiracy. 161 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 9: The defense says this was all part of the swingers' 162 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 9: lifestyle and that he committed no crimes. The largest city 163 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 9: workers union in Philadelphia is now on strike, about nine 164 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 9: thousand workers represented by District Council thirty three walked off 165 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 9: the job at midnight after negotiators failed to reach a 166 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 9: new deal with the city. The union has been asking 167 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 9: for eight percent raises each year for four years. Union 168 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 9: head Greg Boulware says the city's offer of a seven 169 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 9: percent raise spread out over three years isn't enough. What 170 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 9: inflation is up and the cost of living is up. 171 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 9: Two percent raises and three percent raises don't change the 172 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 9: narrative for our people. Things like trash service have been interrupted. 173 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 9: Look for a red hike. The New York City Rent 174 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 9: Guidelines Board last night to prove the three percent price 175 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 9: increase for one year leases and four point five percent 176 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 9: for two year leases, affecting roughly one million rent stabilized apartments. 177 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 9: The increases are expected to begin on October first. Global 178 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 9: News twenty four hours a day and whenever you want 179 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 9: it with the Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barr, and 180 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 9: this is Bloomberg Karen. 181 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: All right, Michael Barr, thank you. Time down to the 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Flushing Bank. Here's 183 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: John Stanshower. 184 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 12: John to morning, Good morning to down Yankees in Toronto. 185 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 12: First to four before they come back to New York 186 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 12: to play the Mets this weekend. Jazz Chisholm another home 187 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 12: run is fourth and five games. Yanks had two to nothing, 188 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 12: later three to one. It came apart sixth in in blue. 189 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 12: Jays put the four runs on three Yankee pitchers and 190 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 12: Anthony Vopi throwing air was constantly. Toronto won five to four. 191 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 12: Yanks in June had a losing month. Their managers Aaron Boone, a. 192 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 13: Really tough week. You know that that lent itself to 193 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 13: this record. So you know, we know we got to 194 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 13: be a little bit better, and you know feel like overall, 195 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 13: you know, we just got to find a way to 196 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 13: finish some of these games. 197 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 12: Tampa Bay loss of the Yanks remain game and a 198 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 12: half ahead. Phillies won four nothing behind Zach Wheeler, who 199 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 12: in five starts in June allowed only two in runs 200 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 12: in the fields now two games ahead of the Mets, 201 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 12: who are at Cityfield tonight to play in Milwaukee. The 202 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 12: Mets have lost thirteen or the last sixteen games. The 203 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 12: Knick still don't have a coach, but they've added a player. 204 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 12: Veteran guard Jordan Clarkson got bought out in Utah, so 205 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 12: he first needs to clear free agent waivers, but Clarkson 206 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 12: expected to join the Knicks and helped their bench, which 207 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 12: was thin for most of last season. As to the 208 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 12: new coach, Mike Brown, the first to have a second interview, 209 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 12: Brown two years ago Coach of the Year in Sacramento, 210 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 12: the Kings fired him during this past season. An NFL 211 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 12: trade of three time All Pro defensive backs Mitka Fitzpatrick 212 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 12: goes back to Miami where he began his career. Jalen 213 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 12: Ramsey goes to Pittsburgh tight end Johnny the Smith. Day 214 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 12: two at Wimbledon will have early starts for Americans Tommy 215 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 12: Paul and Jess Pagoula. Topsy Onick Center plays today, so 216 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 12: does Novak Djokovic and Coke Go God John Stashedward Bloomberg's. 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: Boots Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Serious 218 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: Exam and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and 219 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 220 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. The Senate has been pulling 221 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: an all nighter of amendment votes to President Donald Trump's 222 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: big tax and spending cut bill. It continues this morning. 223 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: Right now eight Republicans are holding out support for the legislation, 224 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: but White House Economic Advisor Kevin Hassett is keeping the 225 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: pressure on. 226 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 11: I would counsel people very much against quoting against the bill, 227 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 11: and I don't expect that there are going to be 228 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 11: many people who do that because the bill makes so 229 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 11: much sense. 230 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: That was a National Economic Council director Kevin Hassett. Joining 231 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: us this morning is Terry Haines, the founder of Pangaea Policy. Terry, 232 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: good morning. The White House is sounding confident this bill 233 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: is going to get done. How do you see things? 234 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 14: Good morning, Good morning, Nathan. This is the time where 235 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 14: you project the result you want. So the White House 236 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 14: is projecting confidence. The Democrats are projecting scorn and ugliness. 237 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 14: The eight Democrat or excuse me, the eight Republican senators 238 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 14: that want things or projecting uncertainty. So so people want things, 239 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 14: and we're about to the point. My view is ultimately 240 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 14: this thing passes. My bogie for three months has been 241 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 14: that it's going to happen on or around July fourth. 242 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 14: So here we are, and you know, but there's going 243 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 14: to be a lot of deals done here in the 244 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 14: next few hours and a lot of votes to happen 245 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 14: in the next few hours. 246 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 2: How do you see those deals shaking out. There's been 247 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: a lot of focus, particularly on the clean energy tax credits, 248 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: the cuts to Medicaid. How could this bill reshaped? Do 249 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: you see significant reshaping to the legislation? 250 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 14: Well, I don't see significant. I would say not significant. 251 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 14: The reason why is because the core is to the 252 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 14: core or this thing or tax provisions and manufacturing provisions. 253 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 14: What we're talking about here is are important provisions, but 254 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 14: there they're ancillary to the core of the bill. But 255 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 14: I see fundamentally accommodation. I see, uh, you know, things 256 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 14: that they've probably gone about as far as they're going 257 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 14: to go on Medicaid and probably even walk back. And 258 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 14: this is what we're talking before Senator Scott's amendment about 259 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 14: the federal match happens. 260 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 10: Uh. 261 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 14: But and Senator Murkowski, Senator Collins and others, uh want 262 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 14: some things. So I think the bill ultimately moderates some. 263 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: We've talked about the pressure that the White House is 264 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: putting to bear. There's a new analysis from Yale's Budget 265 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: Lab that shows a pretty disproportionate benefit for upper earners 266 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: compared to lower earners from this legislation. Is there a 267 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: potential political downside for Republicans to passing this? 268 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 14: Not particularly you know, the the the the Yale folks 269 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 14: are a lot of things, but they're they're they're they're 270 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 14: pretty part of center orientation. Certainly, the polling is negative 271 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 14: towards Republicans right now. But what Republicans are focusing on is, 272 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 14: you know, they can get the kind of the tack 273 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 14: the fundamental tax and manufacturing policy right then they wager 274 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 14: the economic effects result in result from a positive result 275 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 14: into a positive polling balance into twenty twenty six and 276 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 14: into the midterms, and you know, and whatever else you 277 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 14: have to say about what the Republicans are doing, one 278 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 14: thing they are counting on is the kind of the 279 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 14: relative scramble that the Democrats are in right now. 280 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: So you buy the White House analysis that the CBO 281 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: scoring on this does in factor in the economic benefit 282 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: they're talking about something like a three percent boost to 283 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: GDP from this legislation. 284 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 14: Well, you know, going back to certainly going back to 285 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 14: President Obama in twenty twelve, I remember this very clearly, 286 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 14: but I think it goes back much farther. There's always 287 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 14: been complaint from any occupant of the White house at 288 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 14: the CBO scoring is artificial, does not take growth into account, 289 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 14: as Secretary best And points out, doesn't take tariff revenues 290 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 14: into account. And you know, when you have a world 291 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 14: where the as the Wall Street Journal points out, where 292 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 14: the CBO score on extending salt turns out to be 293 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 14: turns out to lower the deficit, you know, you've got 294 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 14: a pretty You've got a fairly wacky and artificial system. 295 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 14: Whatever else you have to say about. 296 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: It, Okay, just quickly yay nay on whether this bill 297 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: passes out of the Senate today. 298 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 14: As we speak again, this. 299 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: Is Bloomberg Daybreak, your morning podcast and the stories making 300 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 301 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 302 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen. 303 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 304 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 305 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: in New York, Bloomberg in ninety nine to one in 306 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: washing Rington, Bloomberg ninety two nine in Boston, and nationwide 307 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: on serious XM Channel one twenty one. 308 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app. 309 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: Now with Apple CarPlay and Android Atto interfaces. 310 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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