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Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshen, I'm his son, Jeff Kirkhin and Dad,

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Speaker 1: you are in Seattle. You are just traveling all across

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Speaker 2: And this morning Jeff had a little trouble West Coast,

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Speaker 2: get up at five thirty or six every day. Well

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Speaker 2: been up since three. Rabbi and Eddie, thanks so much

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Speaker 2: to Carl Ravage and Eduardo Perez for being on our

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Speaker 1: And when I was going through and editing it and

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Speaker 1: I just kind of stopped trying at one point, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was it was chaos. Carl gets up to go

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Speaker 1: going and it was great. It was beautiful. Camas, don't

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Speaker 1: crazy and I loved it. So if you missed it,

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Speaker 1: YouTube as well. That's worth a quick note. Dad really

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Speaker 2: So Ravi called me this morning just to see if

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Speaker 2: I wanted to go out to breakfast, but I couldn't

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Speaker 2: because I'm doing the podcast with my son. But he

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Speaker 2: asked me again if if I'm going to go down

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think you at least have to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love Seattle, Dad, I think it has

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Speaker 2: I love Seattle. Also, don't get me wrong, I just

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Speaker 2: I'm just not up for throwing a salmon. Although I

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and a lot of people have dreams of

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Speaker 1: to give a big shout out to Seattle Stu, who

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Speaker 1: I also want to give a shout out to Tina

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Leady who live in ording Washington, and they're

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Speaker 1: just eating up Dad. The Mariners, you know, they took

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Speaker 2: Kyle's the guy who played baseball with Cedric Mullins in college, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were the fighting Camels and Jeff and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Campbell Campbell fighting Campbell, Campbell's Campbell fighting Campbell's. I always

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Speaker 2: Jeff, speaking of Campbell's. Okay, when I used to come

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Speaker 2: I'll be close on that. This was This was not

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll send you what I order at a coffee shop,

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Speaker 2: It's coffee furthest thing away, right, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Say coffee for Jim.

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Speaker 2: Jim jan to a Seattle radio show many many, many

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Speaker 2: I didn't take it personally. Our name is hard to pronounce,

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Speaker 1: Takeaways? Should we right in?

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Speaker 2: Should the Dodgers pitching? I told you this, Jeb. Everyone

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Speaker 2: I told you, Jeff, who collects shoes for a living also,

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Speaker 2: Yamamoto followed him and pitched a complete game in Game two. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people across the country were rooting

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Speaker 2: I mean twenty five twenty eight, Jeff, twenty five out

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Speaker 2: Look. The Mariners have played exceptionally well in the first

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Speaker 2: It showed and Jeff. We've said this before inside baseball.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly what it is, Jeff. The stuff that how

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Speaker 2: then he catches it again at Jeff. We umpired very

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Speaker 2: I checked with a dozen people. In fact, two scouts

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Speaker 2: have you ever seen this? They said no. Alfonso Marquez,

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Speaker 2: confused as everyone? Else and can you understand How Taoscar

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Speaker 2: UP i got to run. Home he got forced out

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Speaker 2: Ken griffy juniors in Center Field. Sammy sosai it's a

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Speaker 2: The ball but, This, play jeff is complete letely different

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Speaker 2: dodger fan called me screaming, at me how can that

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Speaker 2: That simple So in game one Of The Dodger, brewer

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Speaker 2: you know who got, The Save. Jeff blake trinan got.

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Speaker 2: blake got. The Save, bill chuck our good Friend From,

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Speaker 2: Not fair i'm telling you we're going to have to

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Speaker 1: Point we're gonna end up with somebody with a batting

430
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: title batting under. Three, hundred, Yes, well jeff three h

431
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: four led the nationally. This year that's just the way

432
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: the game is. Played now, it's incredible, All, right dad

433
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: coming up next here on is this a? Great game

434
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: or what we've got on this date in? BASEBALL history

435
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: A team tim coming close to the end from oci

436
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: to oral and we'll play with some baseball. Cards next, All,

437
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: right dad on this date and, baseball history We're talking,

438
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: october sixteenth what do?

439
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: You?

440
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 2: Got well on, This Date aaron boone hit the famous

441
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: home run Off Of. Tim wakefield and You know boonie

442
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: has told me that STORY because i pulled it out

443
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: of him. Many times tell, Us, again Jeff what boone

444
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: was thinking when he hit that? Home Run because i've

445
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: told it. MULTIPLE times i think you told it, Last

446
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: week but tell it again Because It's aaron boone and it's.

447
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: Worth telling arguably one of the biggest home runs in

448
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: the history Of The New. York yankees GAME seven alcs

449
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: Against The Boston red Sox At, yankee stadium and he

450
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: hits it pretty much knows as long as it, stays

451
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: fair it's going to. Be gone and as he struck

452
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: running towards first, he says remember, This moment and then,

453
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: he said when my foot hit, FIRST base i just.

454
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: BLACKED out i just didn't have anything. Going on, the energy,

455
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: the testosterone, the excitement all of the above just completely blacked,

456
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: him OUT which i can, understand, why.

457
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: Yes absolutely so fifteen roughly fifteen years, After that i'm

458
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: covering Baseball With aaron BOONE at espn and we have

459
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: a Game in boston and it's DURING, the als which

460
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: we're very Close. To jeff as, you Know Ice, bucket

461
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: challenge The Whole pete frady's thing that just raised so

462
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: much MONEY for. Als AWARENESS so i get Challenged By.

463
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: Rick SHUTHCLIFFE so i do it in the, front yard.

464
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: Dous myself it, was embarrassing but it was, freezing COLD

465
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: but i, did it AND then I Challenged aaron boone

466
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: and as, you know you have to do it within

467
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: like twenty four hours of the challenge for it to.

468
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: Be real so We're, in boston We're In, ball Austin

469
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: and boonie is a BROADCASTER. For espn so he goes

470
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: down to the hotel bar. At noon we have a

471
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: game at seven. That night he goes to the hotel

472
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: bar and there's no one in the bar except for

473
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: the backbar or the, bar keep whatever, that's called whatever that.

474
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: Guy's called and, he, SAID listen i need. YOUR help

475
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: i need you to pour some really cold water over,

476
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: my head douse me with cold water as part of

477
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: the ice. Bucket challenge would you be willing to? Do

478
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: this and this young bartender looks at him, and, Goes

479
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: well i'd be happy to. Do That You're. AARON boone

480
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: i hate your guns because he has Beaten The red

481
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: sox in two thousand and three with the famous walk off.

482
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: Home run so that was a booty story. ABOUT that i. Love, It,

483
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: also jeff on, this date in the Twenty Twenty, world

484
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: series we had The Famous will Smith Against will smith.

485
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: At bat It Was will smith's favorite leaver For The

486
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: Tampa bay Rays And will smith the catcher For. The

487
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: dodgers and in that, Same, game jeff we're in that

488
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: same series, at least we Had A ryan sheriff pitching

489
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: For the Rays Against. Chris taylor so we Had A

490
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: sheriff taylor. At, Bat, now jeff do you Know Who sheriff?

491
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: Taylor is Isn't That Andy taylor Taylor from ye From

492
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: The Andy Griffins Andy.

493
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Griffith Show buck showalters. Favorite show he knows the number of,

494
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: every episode, You Know, citizens arrest whatever. It, is oh

495
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: that's episode number one hundred and three. Or whatever That's

496
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: What buck showalter can do. With sitcoms this is why

497
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: we love sitcom, so much why we Mentioned get smart

498
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: on the air all, the time and because it's great as,

499
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 2: Sipcom ever, so yes we Had A sheriff taylor And

500
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: A will Smith Versus will smith at bat in the

501
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty, world Series which jeff brings us to, Our

502
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: team TIM and i can, Honestly, SAY jeff i have

503
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: never worked harder on one than. THIS one i had

504
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: an almost five hour Flight through chicago And then chicago

505
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: almost five Hours to SEATTLE and i worked on this the.

506
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: Entire Way So will Smith Against, Will, smith jeff Can

507
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: you it's not a. Bad thing it's. A team so

508
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: what do you think, My team tim is this week

509
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: when it's if it's not, at BAT but i have

510
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: to have a player at, each Position And will Smith

511
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: Versus will smith is.

512
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: The, clue okay well we could Go Actors, will smith

513
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: or we could go some sort of, name right like,

514
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: shared names.

515
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: Shared names at. Each position, And, boy jeff this was

516
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: just a labor. Of. Love eye so.

517
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: You have two guys on, each position the name.

518
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: In the history. Of baseball and it took me at

519
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: least six hours to do this. At least and there's

520
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: a major fudge. In here i'm going to tell, you

521
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: That BUT i'm i don't want to say proud OF

522
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: what i did because this was the biggest waste of

523
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: time of my. Entire life, But, seriously jeb what else

524
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: if you don't bring a book, with you what else

525
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: are you going to do for six hours on a

526
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: Flight from chicago because we were delayed six Hours from Chicago.

527
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: To seattle? You do this is what? You do?

528
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: At, Least, yeah well what normal, People do dad is

529
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: they use their smartphones to watch MOVIES. And TV but

530
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: i know you struggle a little bit when it comes,

531
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: To technology, SO yes. I understand What Would tim kirkshan

532
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: do for. Six, hours yes, all right let's.

533
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: Start off when you's a connection To To, sheriff TAYLOR

534
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: which i finally figured, out that of course. Two catchers

535
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: there were two catchers in the, major leagues Both Named

536
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: hal smith And hal smith is the Name of Otis

537
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 2: the drunk In The Antie, Mayberry Show The Andy. Griffith

538
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Show Remember jim deshase went to this Force, From Messina,

539
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: new york Same as Otis, the drunk and their two

540
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: Guys Named hal smith who played in the major leagues

541
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: and shared the SAME. AT jem i don't KNOW why

542
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: i get such a kick out. Of this so what

543
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: is the Distinction of Otis the drunk On The Andy?

544
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: Griffith show do you remember what? We said what separates

545
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: him from?

546
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: Every character he's the only one, who's Married, Right, Barney,

547
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: andy Felmlub. Goober gohmer they're All single Floyd the barber

548
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: Except for otis's drunk and he's in jail every night because.

549
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: He's drunk, it's incredible dead fun Fact About. Hal smith

550
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: did you know that he? Actually did he's a voice actor.

551
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: As well what was a voice actor for a long

552
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: time and he voiced the Owl in Winnie the pooh

553
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: for quite a few of. These, EPISODES yeah i remember

554
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: when we looked him up when we were Talking to

555
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: It Was jim desha's RIGHT and i looked him UP

556
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: and i, was like he's credited for a lot of,

557
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: different voices including he Was In. Aladdin dad now he

558
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: had a very very, small role but he It was, Ja'afar's, Horse.

559
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: YES aladdin i remember the horse. He was he was

560
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: drunk all the, TIME too i think, THE horse i don't.

561
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: Think, So OKAY so i was so thrilled to complete,

562
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: this team but to start It With hal smith and

563
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: then connected somehow to this date in, baseball history that

564
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: Made my that really made my trip. Very. Satisfying okay

565
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: first Basement Of. Frank Thomas frank thomas played in. The sixties.

566
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: Good Player, Frank thomas Hall of famer. Much later i'm

567
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: not gonna explain who these all these, people Are But

568
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: jimmy williams is our. Second baseman two Guys Named jimmy

569
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: williams played, second base and this is. My favorite our two,

570
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 2: third basemen which could be our two. Second basemen Want

571
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: Is max munsey active still playing in the playoffs For

572
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: the Dodgers And max munsey Of the oakland's. Infielder rookie

573
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: and what distinction do, They, share jeff besides having the

574
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: and they're, not related besides having the. Same name i'm, Not.

575
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: Sure jeff they have the.

576
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: Same, birthday no they, Don't, do jeff it's an. Unusual Name.

577
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: Max muncy they have the, same name and they share the,

578
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: same birthday and they're. Not, Related.

579
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Wow i'm looking through this, Right, now dad this. Is,

580
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: Unbelievable yeah august the, twenty fifth obviously, different years but

581
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: that Is.

582
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: Cray z that's just astonishing. To, me now the shortstop

583
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: is the. REAL fudge i could not find two shortstops

584
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: with the exact, same NAME so i went back to

585
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: the early, nineteen HUNDREDS and i, love this EVEN though

586
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: i fudget there was a shortstop briefly Named red smith

587
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: and a guy who played similar time Named red smith

588
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: who played. Third base now do you Know Who red?

589
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: Smith is Jeff red smith is one of the great

590
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: Sports Writers New york times in the history of. Sports

591
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: writing he won The, well or he Won The Career

592
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: excellence Award For. Baseball Writers so i'm on the same list,

593
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: as him EVEN though i have no place on the

594
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: same list of anything With.

595
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: Red smith you struggled so much to admit that you're on.

596
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: The list you were voted on.

597
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: By along on the same list With. Red smith that's

598
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: how great. He was but we had two guys on

599
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: fudging the shortstop part of it because one was only a.

600
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Third baseman but that's my shortstop Is. Red smith we

601
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: had an Outfielder Named. Brian anderson we. Two outfielders we

602
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: have two Outfielders Named. Lee may the difference Is One

603
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: lee may was mostly a. First baseman The Other lee

604
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: may spells his last name m. A ye but when

605
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: you're struggling this badly to find two guys at. Each

606
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: position we had two Guys Named. Bob johnson one of

607
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: them was really good who played the OUTFIELD and i

608
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: love this JET and i covered. This Guy, bob gibson,

609
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: of course is one of the greatest pitchers of. All

610
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: time there Was Another bob gibson that pitched in the

611
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: major leagues For the brewers and a couple. Other teams

612
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: we had a chat one. Day once it was funny

613
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: about having the same name and playing the same position

614
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: as one of the greatest players Of all one of

615
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: the greatest pitchers of. All time that was the, Hard.

616
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: PART jeff I Mean will Smith And, will smith but

617
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: they don't play the. Same position that was the CHALLENGE

618
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: that I that. I found there Are Two pedro martinez's

619
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: that played in the. Major leagues of course one is,

620
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 2: you know and isn't, That? Interesting jeff we had the

621
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: first TWO guys, I Mentioned peter Martinez And. Bob gibson

622
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: what distinction do? They share Hall? Of? Fame right and?

623
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: What Else from ozzie To, orrel, oh yeah.

624
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: That's right they're both on the limp number.

625
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: Forty five, You, know jeff we only get positive reinforcement

626
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: from our listeners on this. Show only i'm so HAPPY

627
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: that i don't have to read angry people. Every night

628
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: the ONLY time i, offended anyone or you. Offended anyone

629
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: Can't believe i'm going to bring this, up again IS

630
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: when I Picked pedro Martinez Over bob gibson in the

631
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: hardest decision of my life as the greatest number forty

632
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: five of. All time and they both have another pitcher

633
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: who shared the exact, same name but they didn't pitch against. Each,

634
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: Other Jeff bobby jones Of the rockies pitched against Started

635
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: Against bobby jones Of The New york mets in nineteen.

636
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: Ninety nine it was the first time in the twentieth

637
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: century that two pitchers who share the same first and

638
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: last name pitched against. Each other how great? Is That So.

639
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: Pedro martinez Never Faced pedro martinez because they were in

640
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: the game at the same time.

641
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: As a, starting pitcher, at least NOT that. I KNOW

642
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: if i screw, This, up jeff the podcast will be.

643
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: Canceled forever it'll be, over it, All, Right, dad well

644
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: that was.

645
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,959
Speaker 1: EXCELLENT job i know that took you a, long time

646
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: but it was.

647
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: Very sad that's FINE because i. LEARNED something i found

648
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: SOME names i hadn't seen. A. While jeff THAT'S what

649
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: i love to do with baseball is just kind of.

650
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: Relive now these names come up from my childhood and,

651
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: everything ELSE and i, would, SAY yeah i think there

652
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: was another guy by, this name and then that it,

653
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: was right, So good and you Learned About red? Smith

654
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: today how? ABOUT that i, love it, All.

655
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Right dad So from Ozzie, to oral the greatest players

656
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: to wear each number one through, fifty five we're on

657
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: to number. Fifty four we're saving fifty five as, a

658
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: big big tease because you don't know who, it is

659
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: even though it's from one to. Fifty five ozzie won.

660
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: Fifty five draw the, conclusions here we'll go to. Fifty

661
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: four we'll save fifty five to wrap up. Next week

662
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: what do?

663
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: YOU got? I Got, Goose gossage Hall of fame pitcher

664
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: is the greatest number fifty four of. All time he,

665
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: WON nine, i mean Made Nine all, star teams saved

666
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: three hundred and, ten Games, and jeff you know he

667
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: pitched at a time long before we used to just

668
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: bring the clothes are in with the bases empty in

669
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: the ninth inning to get three outs and give him.

670
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: A Save goose gossage, did it As Did, Roley Fingers

671
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: bruce souder and a few others a. Different way, in

672
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: fact in the, famous, playoff well the famous game number

673
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 2: one sixty three Between The red sox And the yankees

674
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: in nineteen, seventy Eight The Bucky, dent game whatever you

675
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: want to, Call It goose gossage got the save in,

676
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: that game and he got. Eight, outs jeff he pitched

677
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: the final two and two. Thirds innings nobody would do.

678
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: That today it would be unheard of it would be

679
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: impossible that your closer would, do that even in a

680
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: huge game. Like this but That's What goose. Gossage did

681
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: that's why He's a Hall. Of Famer And, joe ostermeyer

682
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: who's become like a really good friend of. The show

683
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: he's a sports Writer From. SAINT louis i. Get this

684
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: he wrote me the other day when we were talking

685
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: about best players of, all time and, he said when

686
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: you get to number, fifty four make sure you include

687
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: this save number threeh Eight For. Goose gossage he saved

688
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: victory number threeh Eight For. Nolan ryan ryan got his

689
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighth Victory and gossage got his three

690
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: hundred and eighth save in the. SAME game, i mean

691
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: is that not beautiful? Or?

692
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: What yeah? All right wrapping up, Today's, episode dad three

693
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: cards in? The bathroom what do you have from your?

694
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: Hotel room and?

695
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: See, RIGHT well i did get home for a day in,

696
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: between SERIES so i went down to the bathroom and

697
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: pulled out. THREE cards i didn't even look at THEM

698
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: until i got on. This Trip and i'm so thrilled

699
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: with the names that. Came, out okay and these are

700
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: some old baseball, Cards right first One Is, mark sallas

701
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 2: who caught, you know for about seven or eight years

702
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: for a bunch, of teams twins and all. That, stuff so,

703
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: first off what's the Distinction Of? Mark? Salas jeff his

704
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: last name is. A pallet there, You, go jeff you.

705
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: YOU are i am so proud. Of you you have

706
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: learned so much about the most impossibly stupid things in.

707
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: The world who cares that his last name is. A palindrome,

708
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: you know there was a Picture Named fernando salas who

709
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: also is. A palindrome Imagine If mark salas Had Caught,

710
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: fernando salas would that have been the greatest quirk gin

711
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: in the history of. Quirk, gin well imagine if either

712
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: of them became a race, car driver, right right race

713
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: car forward, and backwards. Just unbelievable the other Thing About,

714
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: mark SALAS hope i don't offend. Anyone here his nickname Was.

715
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 2: The chief and you're too young to, Know, this jeff

716
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: but he was Nicknamed the chief because he looks Like

717
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: the chief from The Movie One flew Over, the cuckoos

718
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: which came out like right at a time when he

719
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: was playing in the. Major leagues, You Know the chief was,

720
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: in prison and he was like a. Weird guy if

721
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: you haven't seen, the movie and there's a, basketball scene

722
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: do YOU know i, Love basketball eddie, Basketball seam. I'm in,

723
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: but Yeah the chief is like they just throw it.

724
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: To him and So That's mark, sallas's Nickname, the chief

725
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: and he's a. POUND drone i. Love that this one

726
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: just almost, Killed, me Jeff and. I'm SORRY only i

727
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: would remember something. Like this This Is. Dwayne biss he

728
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: pitched For the ANGELS while i was Covering the orioles

729
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: For The baltimore sun in the eighties. Late Eighties So,

730
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: DWAYNE weiss i find out When the angels come to

731
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: town that He Loves. Get SMART somehow i find, this

732
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: out and he can do The Greatest get smart Impersonation

733
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: Of Don Adams. Maxwell SMART so i went to, This Guy,

734
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: dwayne biss who pitched like three years of the, big leagues, and,

735
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: said look you don't. KNOW me i Cover, the Orioles

736
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: but i'm The Biggest get smart fan of. All TIME and,

737
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: I said i understand that you can do an Impersonation Of.

738
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: Maxwell smart and, he said would you believe he went right,

739
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: into it right right. INTO it i was just so

740
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: HAPPY that i meet a baseball player who not only

741
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: knew what the greatest sitcom of all time of, Mine Is,

742
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: get smart but he Could Imitate. Maxwell smart it was,

743
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: a highlight one of the highlights of. My career is

744
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: that pretty bad to have that as? A Highlight jet

745
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: it is a.

746
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: Little sad you've been through a lot of great baseball

747
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: stories and for that to even crack the. Top ten.

748
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: He's sad but we.

749
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: Still Love three cards Of. THE bathroom i love that.

750
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: All right, last one and this, is important This Is.

751
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: Jamie Moyer jamie moyer won two hundred and sixty. Nine

752
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: games the last time he pitched was in, twenty twelve

753
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: at age. Forty nine, you know he got off to

754
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: a rough start in. His career they didn't think he

755
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: was going to. Pitch anymore he got released and he

756
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: just kept coming back because he had such a unique

757
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: understanding of the art. Of pitching he deserves an enormous

758
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: amount of, credit for, you know learning how to pitch

759
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: without an above. Average fastball, in fact he didn't throw

760
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: very hard. At All, and jeff who is his father,

761
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: in law let's see if you remember that because you

762
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: met his. Mommy, law oh come you mispronounced his father

763
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: in law's name to me at least when You were oh.

764
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: My gosh Is It.

765
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: Digger, Phelps Yeah So, digger phelps The Former notre dame,

766
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: basketball coach is the father in Law To jamie Moyer.

767
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: And jeff we're not going To Hurt digger phelps's feelings

768
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: because you were ten. Years old but what did you

769
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: call him when when we got to the car after.

770
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: Meeting him after we, MET him, I said i CAN'T

771
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: believe I Met. Digger phillips it's.

772
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: Pretty Good So digger phelps told me a story Once

773
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: About jamie moyer that they're driving home after a game

774
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: and now he's, you know he's deep into his career

775
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: and he's. Really good he's one of the better pitchers in.

776
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: The game but he throws like eighty six miles, An,

777
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: hour okay sometimes less. Than that so one of his

778
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: children says, To, him dad, you know could you just

779
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: throw one pitch at ninety miles an hour? For us

780
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: could you just do that once so your kids could

781
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: see that you threw a ball ninety ninety five miles

782
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 2: an hour. Or Whatever so, jamie said looks on that

783
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: that's NOT how i pitched that's NOT what. I do

784
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: and they continue to drive home and one of the

785
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: kids looks at the speedometer, And, says dad you are

786
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: driving the car faster than you throw. A fastball that's what.

787
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: He Says At digger phelps told me. That story so

788
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: That's My jamie. MOYER story i have many, of them

789
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: but that's just one From three cards In.

790
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: The bathroom next time you hear a new episode, from

791
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: us it will be This, coming tuesday which will be

792
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: the Day of game seven FOR the nlcs. If necessary,

793
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: of course the Night before monday night Will be game SICK,

794
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: The nlcs game seven OF. The alcs so we're gonna

795
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: keep you updated as much as. We, can big big, Shout.

796
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: Out dad you're gonna roll. Your eyes but thank you

797
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: for being. So flexible thank you for lugging the. EQUIPMENT

798
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: around i know it's not the easiest thing, to do

799
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: but you are crushing it even. From abroad i'm still

800
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: in the basement waiting for you to come back to

801
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: do an episode with me during the. Off season, boil

802
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: boy do we miss you?

803
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: DOWN here i can't and, you're Moving so. I'll Come

804
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: what i'll Do is i'll come over help you get

805
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: moved in the Beginning. Of november i'll bring our. Giant

806
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: truck i'll help you move. Some stuff i'm not too old,

807
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: to help and then we'll do once you get your basement,

808
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: set up we'll do a podcast. Down there how about that.

809
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: Sounds good thank you so much, for listening and, as

810
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: always thanks for being a part of. Our family