WEBVTT - "Correctamundo, Tro" (w/ Troye Sivan) 0:00:00.970 --> 0:00:02.910 Look, man. Where? Oh, I see. 0:00:02.930 --> 0:00:03.000 Wow. 0:00:03.070 --> 0:00:06.909 Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, 0:00:06.930 --> 0:00:12.950 my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. 0:00:12.970 --> 0:00:17.300 And it's our first guest in the space. Amazing. And 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.880 the first thing he did was say, sort of encounter 0:00:20.900 --> 0:00:22.360 what was on the table and say, what's that? And 0:00:22.380 --> 0:00:25.900 we said, well, I've never tried that. I'm telling you, 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.520 we're giving it away for free. Because now they have 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.460 one of the world's beloved icons drinking it here. 0:00:34.780 --> 0:00:37.780 And having mixed things to say. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.379 Which is what they want. And we can be transparent 0:00:42.420 --> 0:00:44.560 about that because they have not offered us some sort 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.000 of global brand deal. So we can sit here and 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.760 actually say how we feel about, and what's the one 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.419 that you have? Arctic Vibe. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.690 And to the Celsius folks, y'all know it tastes crazy. 0:00:56.270 --> 0:00:58.760 That's part of the appeal, isn't it? Out there, you 0:00:58.870 --> 0:01:02.110 fucking freaks. You want us out here sipping your weird juice? 0:01:02.950 --> 0:01:07.550 One of our crew called it vape juice. Yeah. Oh, no, 0:01:07.810 --> 0:01:10.010 I think our guest called it vape juice. Oh, and 0:01:10.050 --> 0:01:13.950 then it was confirmed by the crew. Our vaping crew. 0:01:13.970 --> 0:01:17.840 I don't want to call anyone out of their name. Well, 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:23.520 we're about to. I... How dare our guest. How dare 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:24.040 our guest. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:24.880 He.. 0:01:26.150 --> 0:01:31.029 Dropped this video on the world. So here's the thing. 0:01:31.670 --> 0:01:34.970 You know Nicole Kidman. I'm talking to the guests at home. 0:01:34.990 --> 0:01:36.770 From Las Culturistas. Not the guests in the chair. I'm 0:01:36.790 --> 0:01:39.090 talking to the guests to this episode, a.k.a. the readers, 0:01:39.110 --> 0:01:41.010 the people that listen to this podcast. You guys know 0:01:41.030 --> 0:01:46.550 Nicole Kidman. You remember her from this podcast where she... 0:01:47.020 --> 0:01:48.980 What happened to her when Tweety Bird came up? 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.900 I think she was just excited to see Tweety Bird. 0:01:51.060 --> 0:01:51.400 Yeah. 0:01:51.460 --> 0:01:54.760 And then I think she is an actor in the 0:01:54.820 --> 0:01:58.059 sense that she... went into a reverie. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:58.480 Yeah. 0:01:59.020 --> 0:02:03.640 An embodied Tweety. And that girl, that girl, she's the best. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.990 This guy, this guy, he's the best. So one of 0:02:09.030 --> 0:02:12.109 the things that I share, um, that we all share 0:02:12.150 --> 0:02:16.750 with our guests is a friend, collaborator, Brett Leland McLaughlin. 0:02:17.110 --> 0:02:20.070 And so he does, I don't want to put him 0:02:20.150 --> 0:02:23.239 on too much blast, but I have heard a large 0:02:24.060 --> 0:02:28.320 portion of this project and, You know what I'm saying? 0:02:28.340 --> 0:02:30.440 He shouldn't have done that. I'm not saying that he 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.300 did too much, but I am saying he did just 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:36.480 enough for me to know that this Troy era is 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:42.200 the Troy era. I am very, very, very excited that 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:46.860 you finally arrived here in this moment because I do believe... 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:49.500 People are going to say a lot of big things 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.940 because people are going to be excited, but I will 0:02:52.090 --> 0:02:55.270 just be... one of the voices saying how exciting it 0:02:55.370 --> 0:02:58.450 is to see our guest who has always done such 0:02:58.510 --> 0:03:02.369 incredible work, like take it in even further and even 0:03:02.470 --> 0:03:05.810 bolder a direction. And I am just incredibly excited for what, 0:03:07.350 --> 0:03:10.600 what is on the horizon. It gave me ray of light, 0:03:10.700 --> 0:03:13.079 which I told him, which is especially in this era 0:03:13.100 --> 0:03:15.620 where Madonna is so top of mind to say something 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.019 that like this, you can't do it lightly. 0:03:19.180 --> 0:03:21.910 That just hit me like a wave, like Tokyo. 0:03:21.930 --> 0:03:22.440 Mm hmm. 0:03:23.180 --> 0:03:28.540 And I think our guest is a really special person 0:03:28.580 --> 0:03:33.700 to me. And I'm in a reverie. I'm looking at 0:03:33.740 --> 0:03:36.300 Tweety Bird and I'm Nicole Kinman over here. Let's just 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.550 bring him in. Everyone, please welcome Troy Baby. 0:03:39.570 --> 0:03:42.370 Troy Savana! 0:03:42.430 --> 0:03:42.930 Can I talk? 0:03:43.070 --> 0:03:45.750 Yes. You can talk. You're free to speak. 0:03:45.930 --> 0:03:47.290 Guys, what's up? 0:03:47.750 --> 0:03:48.350 Here's the thing. 0:03:48.370 --> 0:03:50.410 And you can kick that however many times you want. 0:03:50.470 --> 0:03:53.980 I'm going to. We're really... it's pokey i love the 0:03:54.020 --> 0:03:55.000 new studio by the way. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.390 Thank you do you you look perfect in. 0:03:57.410 --> 0:04:00.550 It really thank you this is actually not my preferred side. 0:04:00.150 --> 0:04:02.570 Do you have do you have one of those. 0:04:02.470 --> 0:04:05.310 I do now yeah it's gotten worse over time. 0:04:05.130 --> 0:04:07.470 What made you why why do you say you do 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:08.760 now what what brought this. 0:04:08.820 --> 0:04:11.660 On age i think i have i have volume loss 0:04:11.700 --> 0:04:15.030 under my left eye age gave you a side Age 0:04:15.070 --> 0:04:15.670 gave me a side. 0:04:15.710 --> 0:04:17.770 Yeah. You have what under your left eye? 0:04:17.830 --> 0:04:18.450 Volume loss. 0:04:18.550 --> 0:04:19.429 Volume loss. 0:04:19.529 --> 0:04:23.150 Okay, but these are terms that we did not know. 0:04:23.170 --> 0:04:24.289 No, my brain is rotten. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:25.360 Tell us. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.920 Just, I mean, I feel like I have the most 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:34.120 minor thought about volume loss under my left eye. And 0:04:34.140 --> 0:04:37.219 then I'll open Instagram and there's like a reel about 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.050 volume loss under the left eye and how to fix it. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:45.960 Yeah, it's incredibly powerful, whatever's happening with the technology that allows, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.860 it allows your phone to know what you've thought. This happens. 0:04:50.820 --> 0:04:52.800 And I haven't done anything about it yet, but we'll see. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:53.540 What's there to do? 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:59.160 There's a few options. Okay. Filler, which nobody recommends. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:04:59.760 Right, no. 0:05:00.540 --> 0:05:02.620 It's apparently very dangerous to do under your eye. I 0:05:02.630 --> 0:05:05.080 should say I'm not like a medical expert, so don't 0:05:05.100 --> 0:05:05.960 take my advice no matter what. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.040 You are. It would be incredible if you revealed that 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.140 you were. Yeah, you are. 0:05:11.220 --> 0:05:11.610 Yes, you are. 0:05:11.660 --> 0:05:13.020 I don't like that self-talk. 0:05:13.700 --> 0:05:14.739 You're a Dr. Troy. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.400 Don't let anyone tell you you're not a medical expert. 0:05:17.820 --> 0:05:22.070 No, so I think that I had a consultation. 0:05:22.089 --> 0:05:22.729 Okay. 0:05:23.290 --> 0:05:24.529 And they told me about the filler and then they 0:05:24.550 --> 0:05:26.290 were like, but don't do that. And then they also 0:05:26.350 --> 0:05:32.970 told me that you can do like... plasma whatever and 0:05:33.010 --> 0:05:35.270 I'm like is that real like am I going to 0:05:35.310 --> 0:05:38.710 notice a difference and they were like maybe and I'm 0:05:38.730 --> 0:05:41.350 like no what's like the real deal like how do 0:05:41.370 --> 0:05:45.830 you actually do it and it's unfortunately fat transfer yeah fat. 0:05:45.370 --> 0:05:48.380 Transfer from the eye or to the eye to the 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.980 eye from wherever they can find. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.100 It they take it from your ass and put it 0:05:52.140 --> 0:05:55.120 under your eye ass. 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.960 Fat under the eye wherever the. 0:05:56.500 --> 0:05:58.900 Fat is sometimes some of us don't have fat. 0:05:58.740 --> 0:06:00.550 There Someone's going to be into that. Like, you like 0:06:00.589 --> 0:06:01.290 this fat ass? 0:06:01.710 --> 0:06:06.390 You like my beautiful eyes? I took stuff from my 0:06:06.570 --> 0:06:09.850 ass to make them even more beautiful. Jesus. Yeah. 0:06:10.190 --> 0:06:14.210 Yeah, so they take fat, they purify it or something, 0:06:14.290 --> 0:06:16.950 and then they put it under your eye. And then it's... Apparently, 0:06:16.990 --> 0:06:18.550 it's for life. And that's what also scares me. 0:06:18.610 --> 0:06:18.850 Yeah. 0:06:18.950 --> 0:06:23.050 Is that they... Only, like, a certain percentage of it survives. 0:06:23.450 --> 0:06:28.580 So they overfill with the fat. And then some of it... 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.040 dies in there and what survives is supposed to look 0:06:32.100 --> 0:06:35.090 perfect and smooth and like whatever. And it just sounds 0:06:35.130 --> 0:06:35.790 risky to me. 0:06:36.089 --> 0:06:38.370 It sounds risky to me. Any sort of transfer of 0:06:38.450 --> 0:06:40.070 fat from part of your body to it. 0:06:40.290 --> 0:06:43.440 But then the third option is of course, self-acceptance. 0:06:43.950 --> 0:06:46.190 Yeah yeah i thought you were gonna say bag of 0:06:46.210 --> 0:06:49.710 peas when you first said p i thought bag of 0:06:49.750 --> 0:06:51.270 peas i thought you meant just like oh put a 0:06:51.290 --> 0:06:53.090 bag of peas under there like that's what they tell 0:06:53.110 --> 0:06:54.890 you to do like you know just like put a 0:06:54.950 --> 0:06:56.950 bag of ice or like you know whatever just like 0:06:57.210 --> 0:07:00.390 sort of just sleep etc yeah. 0:07:00.150 --> 0:07:04.710 Like anything that's not like upper bluff no just like 0:07:05.210 --> 0:07:07.200 like just do the thing just do the actual thing 0:07:07.220 --> 0:07:08.860 that's going to work like i don't want to i 0:07:08.900 --> 0:07:10.920 don't want to do some weird like A skin cream 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.880 is not going to give me, you know what I mean? 0:07:12.940 --> 0:07:13.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:07:14.220 --> 0:07:15.680 But it seems like you don't know what the thing, 0:07:15.940 --> 0:07:17.520 the trouble with this is we don't know what the 0:07:17.540 --> 0:07:17.940 thing is. 0:07:18.460 --> 0:07:18.780 What do you mean? 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:19.920 When you say like, just do the thing. 0:07:20.060 --> 0:07:20.380 Oh, right. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:21.200 But we don't know what the thing is. 0:07:21.260 --> 0:07:23.270 It sounds like it's fat transfer, but I just like, 0:07:23.790 --> 0:07:24.910 I just, I can't be bothered. 0:07:24.930 --> 0:07:26.230 But then you got to do that. 0:07:26.390 --> 0:07:28.210 Exactly. Then you get fat transfer under your eyes, which 0:07:28.250 --> 0:07:30.570 just seems like. Such an insane thing to do. 0:07:30.890 --> 0:07:32.870 And that's the thing is I do think we as 0:07:32.910 --> 0:07:35.210 a society could benefit from stepping back a little bit 0:07:35.250 --> 0:07:37.750 and being like, what is this? Right. And like, you 0:07:37.770 --> 0:07:39.730 know what I mean? And sometimes it's like, oh, we're 0:07:39.770 --> 0:07:42.450 talking about like something like salmon sperm. You know what 0:07:42.490 --> 0:07:44.210 I mean? Like, which, which again, I heard is like 0:07:44.230 --> 0:07:48.200 salmon sperm. That's, that's pretty whatever. Right. People like it. 0:07:48.500 --> 0:07:49.739 And what is it? Is it an injection? 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:49.820 No. 0:07:50.460 --> 0:07:52.100 See, that's something that I would be a skeptic about. 0:07:52.140 --> 0:07:52.760 But I'm sure it's real. 0:07:52.780 --> 0:07:53.990 Because it's the cum of fish. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:55.050 Right, how can that be? 0:07:55.050 --> 0:07:56.770 And we stepped back and it was the cum of 0:07:56.810 --> 0:07:57.990 fish that we were talking about. 0:07:57.850 --> 0:07:59.150 The whole time. Totally, when you zoom out. 0:07:59.450 --> 0:07:59.810 Yeah. 0:08:00.450 --> 0:08:02.910 But the cum of humans we put all over the 0:08:03.030 --> 0:08:03.730 fucking place. 0:08:04.470 --> 0:08:07.180 Speak for yourself. So who cares? Speak for yourself, says Troy. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.200 Where do you guys put it? You guys. Meaning Australians. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:12.500 Yes, it goes everywhere. 0:08:12.780 --> 0:08:18.500 It goes everywhere. I mean, I don't know. We put 0:08:18.540 --> 0:08:22.720 it on the face. If it helps. I mean, that's 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.760 the thing. I will try it if it helps. But 0:08:25.810 --> 0:08:26.290 the thing is.. 0:08:26.290 --> 0:08:27.710 It's the only time you get cum on your face 0:08:27.730 --> 0:08:29.330 is if there's a cosmetic benefit. 0:08:29.870 --> 0:08:32.370 I wasn't ever the biggest fan anyway. You know what 0:08:32.410 --> 0:08:32.730 I mean? 0:08:32.890 --> 0:08:38.110 Yeah, what are your thoughts on cum? Sometimes it's cool. 0:08:38.130 --> 0:08:41.390 Because you came to Lost Gulch. I did. And here 0:08:41.410 --> 0:08:44.199 we are with our cum questions. I.. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.500 You know... Like, I'm kind of whatever about it. 0:08:48.610 --> 0:08:48.990 Me too. 0:08:49.270 --> 0:08:50.970 I'm not, like, obsessed. 0:08:51.309 --> 0:08:54.480 I've never been like, that was unbelievable. Come. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:56.280 I've had that thought. 0:08:56.300 --> 0:08:56.720 No, you know what? 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:01.140 If the guy is, like, unbelievably hot, and I'm, like, 0:09:01.500 --> 0:09:05.800 falling in love with him, by all means, whatever you want. 0:09:07.260 --> 0:09:12.579 True or false, sometimes guys do, like, perform it too much. 0:09:12.860 --> 0:09:13.980 What, the act of coming? 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.040 Have you ever faked an orgasm? 0:09:16.780 --> 0:09:18.840 I have. I have. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:19.599 Tell us about it. 0:09:20.950 --> 0:09:22.040 Okay, so. Okay, yeah. 0:09:22.260 --> 0:09:24.670 It's different for dick people. 0:09:24.750 --> 0:09:27.050 I know, that's the thing, yeah. 0:09:27.170 --> 0:09:29.930 So this happened about five years ago. 0:09:29.950 --> 0:09:31.070 Do I know him? 0:09:34.010 --> 0:09:41.560 I don't know. Whoa. It happened in L.A., and I 0:09:41.620 --> 0:09:43.980 can't come swinging through here with a no with a 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:49.719 no um but anyway like I I was not bored 0:09:49.820 --> 0:09:52.939 topping but it was kind of just like it wasn't really. 0:09:52.790 --> 0:09:55.949 Happening you can fake it if you're topping yes and. 0:09:55.890 --> 0:09:57.630 So that's why that's how I was able to do 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.360 so is because I was like oh wasn't that. 0:10:00.220 --> 0:10:04.340 Over but then after doesn't he like realize well he. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.740 Did ask me did you come and I was like 0:10:06.820 --> 0:10:10.520 yeah oh so I said yeah like an older brother 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:15.790 in a sitcom yeah of course I did anyways. 0:10:15.350 --> 0:10:18.430 He's like why are you talking like that feels like 0:10:18.450 --> 0:10:19.430 you didn't come yeah. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.840 I commend you for lying. I know. Sometimes lying is cool. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.150 Sometimes lying is super cool. It's what I need to 0:10:29.190 --> 0:10:32.390 do for survival in that moment. Have you? I have. 0:10:32.590 --> 0:10:32.790 Yeah. 0:10:33.390 --> 0:10:38.170 Very similar situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just hedged. But 0:10:40.090 --> 0:10:41.610 it wasn't our first time. 0:10:41.929 --> 0:10:42.459 Yeah. 0:10:42.860 --> 0:10:46.560 So I was like, this is the perfect crime. There's 0:10:46.580 --> 0:10:47.880 no way that he's going to know. 0:10:47.900 --> 0:10:49.890 This is the perfect crime. Because.. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.040 You know, it's like already happened. Yeah. So it's just 0:10:54.059 --> 0:10:55.679 not happening again. Yeah. 0:10:55.700 --> 0:10:55.800 Right. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.040 So I was like, I did a gorgeous performance. 0:10:59.200 --> 0:10:59.460 Yeah. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.120 Very convincing, hopefully. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:01.500 Yeah. 0:11:01.660 --> 0:11:02.320 And I don't think you ever knew. 0:11:02.340 --> 0:11:03.980 You're a really good actor. You are a great actor. 0:11:04.100 --> 0:11:05.740 And that's one of the things I want to talk 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.340 to you about at some point when we move off 0:11:07.380 --> 0:11:11.810 this topic, which I'm still interested in exploring. Hold on. 0:11:12.250 --> 0:11:13.689 And this is my exploration. Go ahead. 0:11:14.110 --> 0:11:16.830 Who's to say that we haven't had people fake it 0:11:16.850 --> 0:11:17.150 with us? 0:11:17.550 --> 0:11:21.290 You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. I've had people fake. 0:11:21.570 --> 0:11:24.480 I'm sure statistically speaking, I don't know who, but I'm 0:11:24.500 --> 0:11:27.160 sure someone's faked it with me. And I'm like, yeah, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.140 that's just how the numbers go. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:29.579 Yeah. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:30.160 Right. 0:11:30.780 --> 0:11:32.200 Oh, no. Is that so sad? 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.140 No, I just actually hadn't considered it for myself. I'm like, 0:11:35.420 --> 0:11:37.360 I've done it for someone else, but of course no 0:11:37.380 --> 0:11:38.480 one's ever done that for me. Yeah. 0:11:38.500 --> 0:11:39.819 Well, you're always the exception. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:40.230 Totally. 0:11:40.330 --> 0:11:41.040 You may be. 0:11:41.090 --> 0:11:43.189 I mean. 0:11:43.850 --> 0:11:46.250 I want to know about your experience with poppers now. 0:11:46.850 --> 0:11:47.110 Okay. 0:11:47.370 --> 0:11:49.150 Because you felt the rush and made us all feel 0:11:49.170 --> 0:11:49.490 the rush. 0:11:49.510 --> 0:11:49.630 Mm-hmm. 0:11:50.970 --> 0:11:53.650 The thing about poppers over time is they are a 0:11:53.690 --> 0:11:55.610 drug that you inhale and they go right to your 0:11:55.650 --> 0:11:59.970 brain and sort of, I would say, potentially wreck that 0:12:00.590 --> 0:12:03.130 human organ that we need. So where are you at 0:12:03.170 --> 0:12:05.740 with it now? And is fantasy reality? 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.260 Fantasy is definitely reality. I'm not like crazy obsessed, like 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:14.000 as in it's not that frequent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I 0:12:14.020 --> 0:12:17.990 would say the issue is now it's hard for me 0:12:18.020 --> 0:12:20.630 to be like, in the moment with someone i'm like 0:12:20.870 --> 0:12:22.730 do you like poppers like it just it feels like 0:12:22.770 --> 0:12:24.760 kind of a joke almost or something like that like 0:12:24.780 --> 0:12:26.640 if i if i whip out a bottle. 0:12:26.460 --> 0:12:29.600 Of rush it's like you're mickey mouse totally yeah. 0:12:29.420 --> 0:12:31.760 Totally doing like whatever mickey mouse does you know um 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.459 so yeah. 0:12:34.110 --> 0:12:36.250 Mickey mouse tends to have like a great day yes 0:12:36.570 --> 0:12:38.170 you know what i mean so like you being the 0:12:38.210 --> 0:12:40.469 mickey mouse of poppers actually is perfect. 0:12:40.150 --> 0:12:42.349 Right yeah so it's just like i feel like it 0:12:42.390 --> 0:12:44.980 was maybe cooler before whereas now it's like a little 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.120 bit like wearing a t-shirt or something. 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:48.350 We know you feel the rush. 0:12:48.490 --> 0:12:51.050 You did not, you're not responsible for the ways that 0:12:51.090 --> 0:12:54.250 we all realize that like, this is maybe like destroying 0:12:54.309 --> 0:12:57.030 our brains in a way that like you wish, you 0:12:57.250 --> 0:12:59.010 wish someone would do that for phones. 0:12:59.590 --> 0:13:02.030 You know what I mean? Like, can you tackle that? 0:13:02.050 --> 0:13:04.050 Can you tackle, can you do a song about phones? 0:13:04.190 --> 0:13:04.430 Yes. 0:13:04.750 --> 0:13:04.870 Yeah. 0:13:05.010 --> 0:13:05.960 Social media addiction. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.900 I wrote a song about phones once. Um, I think 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.140 I've written two songs about phones. 0:13:10.540 --> 0:13:12.200 Just like, what's the take? 0:13:12.980 --> 0:13:13.339 Hate them. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:13.980 Yeah. 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:15.550 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 0:13:15.650 --> 0:13:18.380 I'm, I'm really, I do think that all of our 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:19.460 brains are like turning to mush. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.040 What do you think of the credit card theory that 0:13:23.059 --> 0:13:25.360 there's a credit card in all of our brains? Whoa. 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.660 That's because of microplastics though. That's not because of social 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.440 media addiction. Right. Yeah. But there's so many things to 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:31.020 be afraid of. 0:13:31.340 --> 0:13:31.820 Totally. 0:13:31.980 --> 0:13:32.220 Yeah. 0:13:32.660 --> 0:13:34.000 But some people have good credit. 0:13:34.020 --> 0:13:34.090 Wow. 0:13:37.090 --> 0:13:39.750 Was that you feeling the rush? Yeah. 0:13:40.750 --> 0:13:43.090 I did do poppers again for the first time in like, 0:13:43.150 --> 0:13:43.910 I want to say over a year. 0:13:43.970 --> 0:13:45.550 Yeah. the other week. 0:13:45.570 --> 0:13:47.970 And I was like, recreationally or sexually? 0:13:49.050 --> 0:13:49.929 Recreationally. 0:13:49.950 --> 0:13:50.350 Okay. 0:13:50.710 --> 0:13:53.430 Well, I know I was, I was recreational. Sometimes the 0:13:53.470 --> 0:13:55.830 line is blurred. Sexually. 0:13:56.030 --> 0:13:56.449 Yeah. 0:13:57.170 --> 0:14:00.810 And I was like, I mean, it does really, you 0:14:00.870 --> 0:14:01.890 are addicted. 0:14:01.500 --> 0:14:02.670 To, I got addicted to them. 0:14:04.130 --> 0:14:05.550 Oh, that's where you're coming from with this. 0:14:05.590 --> 0:14:05.860 Yes, yes. 0:14:05.870 --> 0:14:07.870 I forgot this about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now 0:14:07.929 --> 0:14:10.850 I remembered. Yes, you and another person that I know. 0:14:10.870 --> 0:14:10.950 Yeah. 0:14:11.490 --> 0:14:13.360 I only know two people and she's a girl. 0:14:13.410 --> 0:14:15.120 Yeah, Rachel Tennant. Yeah. It's possible. 0:14:15.340 --> 0:14:15.860 It's possible. 0:14:16.020 --> 0:14:18.340 It's like when Gaga says, like, people don't realize that 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:19.760 you can get addicted to marijuana. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.540 Right. It's that kind of thing. You can get addicted 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:23.400 to anything. Yeah. 0:14:23.460 --> 0:14:23.880 Totally. 0:14:24.020 --> 0:14:26.580 You can get addicted to anything that I guess has 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.000 a stimuli that you would then need again. Mm-hmm. my 0:14:30.010 --> 0:14:30.620 strength addiction. 0:14:30.630 --> 0:14:32.840 So Matt, do you, you don't like touch them anymore? 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.400 No, you know what it was? It was kind of 0:14:34.420 --> 0:14:37.320 just like, I, they can be around. It's just that like, 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.560 it has to, well, they can't really be around. The 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.620 guest star has to bring them over. If the guest 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.420 star brings them over, then, then it's good and fine. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.400 But it's just like, I spent a long time being 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.580 that person that would like wake up in the morning 0:14:51.620 --> 0:14:52.740 and use them to jack off. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:54.120 Oh, to jack off. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:55.600 Yeah. Okay. I thought you were just saying like with 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:56.640 a coffee. Oh, no, no, no. Not to like do 0:14:56.700 --> 0:14:59.040 my day. Yeah, yeah. Well, I gotta go get coffee. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:14:59.190 Shh. 0:14:59.770 --> 0:15:01.870 You know what I mean? Like, no, it wasn't like that. 0:15:01.970 --> 0:15:04.470 But I think it's, there was like a cultural moment, like, 0:15:04.830 --> 0:15:09.570 and this predated the, the rush moment, but it was like, 0:15:09.950 --> 0:15:12.050 there was a time like in our mid twenties where 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.980 we were just ripping it in bars and clubs, like, 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.060 like even just watching RuPaul's Drag Race. 0:15:19.100 --> 0:15:21.010 Yeah, no, we would just do it very recreationally. And I, 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:22.720 and I just came up with a term for, um, 0:15:22.900 --> 0:15:23.640 you know, wake and bake. 0:15:23.980 --> 0:15:24.180 Yes. 0:15:24.540 --> 0:15:27.390 You were yawning yank. Yon and Yank. 0:15:27.580 --> 0:15:27.880 Wow. 0:15:27.900 --> 0:15:28.440 Yon and Yank. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:29.980 I mean, that's amazing. 0:15:30.100 --> 0:15:31.920 Thank you. That's really, really good. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.160 Because it's not just specific to poppers. That's just like 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.350 a thing that people do. 0:15:35.470 --> 0:15:37.110 You don't need poppers to do that. 0:15:37.130 --> 0:15:37.790 Yon and Yank. 0:15:37.970 --> 0:15:40.670 Wow. I love a Yon and Yank. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.600 I woke up at 3 a.m. this morning because I'm 0:15:44.020 --> 0:15:44.460 jet lagged. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:45.840 Yeah. Time shifter. 0:15:45.860 --> 0:15:46.510 I considered it. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.160 Because it was too early for you. 0:15:49.230 --> 0:15:53.590 It was too early. I don't want to get too personal. 0:15:53.750 --> 0:15:54.170 Right, right. 0:15:54.370 --> 0:15:56.510 Sorry. Time shifter. 0:15:57.570 --> 0:15:57.970 I know. 0:15:57.990 --> 0:15:59.460 But it doesn't work for you. 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.320 Well, I just sort of do it in my head 0:16:01.340 --> 0:16:03.830 because I used it. It's quite expensive, that app. 0:16:04.610 --> 0:16:05.910 But I think it's worth it. Really? 0:16:05.930 --> 0:16:09.510 You don't lose the day. I will pay any price 0:16:09.550 --> 0:16:10.350 to avoid jet lag. 0:16:10.950 --> 0:16:11.230 Right. 0:16:11.270 --> 0:16:13.770 Not any price, but reasonably. Do you know about this app? 0:16:14.290 --> 0:16:14.470 Yes. 0:16:15.290 --> 0:16:17.310 I attempted to use the Time Shifter app, and it 0:16:17.350 --> 0:16:19.550 didn't work for me as well. I think what I 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.720 try to do is just try to go to sleep 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:22.900 at night. Right. 0:16:23.180 --> 0:16:24.320 And you don't nap during the day. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.100 No, not really. I'm not like a napper. It's not 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.510 as easy as that. Yeah, of course you're going to 0:16:30.550 --> 0:16:30.930 try to go to sleep. 0:16:30.950 --> 0:16:33.190 And you follow the rules, like no caffeine at this time. 0:16:33.870 --> 0:16:36.109 Yes, I am supposed to be done with caffeine. Oh, 0:16:36.110 --> 0:16:37.690 get this away from me. I'm supposed to be done 0:16:37.710 --> 0:16:38.010 with caffeine. 0:16:38.030 --> 0:16:39.410 Oh, because you're going to Berlin. I'm going to Berlin tomorrow. 0:16:39.470 --> 0:16:41.770 Have you been to Berlin? Yeah, clearly. Hello. 0:16:41.950 --> 0:16:42.930 We filmed the Rush video there. 0:16:43.010 --> 0:16:46.970 Oh, duh, yeah. Me asking questions. Wait, wasn't Bloom there too? 0:16:47.310 --> 0:16:48.250 No, Bloom was in New York. 0:16:50.430 --> 0:16:52.100 Where was that warehouse? I love that warehouse. 0:16:52.140 --> 0:16:52.920 I don't remember. 0:16:52.940 --> 0:16:54.979 No, not Bloom. Sorry, sorry. My, my, my. My, my, 0:16:54.980 --> 0:16:55.550 my was in L.A. 0:16:57.530 --> 0:16:58.490 It looked like Europe to me. 0:16:58.730 --> 0:17:00.950 Yeah. It was like a really sort of random like 0:17:01.150 --> 0:17:01.930 power plant. 0:17:01.950 --> 0:17:02.850 And it was rainy. 0:17:02.870 --> 0:17:05.150 It was raining. I don't remember if that was real 0:17:05.230 --> 0:17:06.800 or fake rain. I think it was maybe fake rain. 0:17:06.820 --> 0:17:08.820 I love that video. I love my, my, my. And 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:14.700 I loved blonde, that you were blonde though, right? Blonde, dark, 0:17:14.940 --> 0:17:16.080 but yet dark Troy. 0:17:16.140 --> 0:17:18.460 Yes. The skinniest person you've ever seen in your life. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.669 Like it was a, it was a crazy vibe I 0:17:20.710 --> 0:17:21.869 had at the time. I'll see pictures of myself and 0:17:21.890 --> 0:17:23.990 be like, whoa, I looked crazy kind of. 0:17:24.190 --> 0:17:26.810 Really? Well, like, okay. So what's like the hair, is 0:17:26.830 --> 0:17:30.090 there a hair logic to you? Like I was blonde 0:17:30.109 --> 0:17:31.990 then because of this, or I have dark hair now 0:17:32.010 --> 0:17:32.590 because of that. 0:17:33.330 --> 0:17:35.050 Not really. I think the only, I mean like the 0:17:35.090 --> 0:17:39.170 closest thing to it is, um, I think like last album, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.820 even I felt remnants of feeling like I needed to 0:17:43.020 --> 0:17:48.060 step into a role or something like that. And I 0:17:48.540 --> 0:17:50.320 knew that this time I didn't want to do that. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.929 So this feels like, I'm wearing a very cool hat today. 0:17:54.090 --> 0:17:55.169 Yeah, you certainly are. 0:17:55.190 --> 0:17:56.410 No noise for the hat so far. 0:17:56.430 --> 0:17:57.949 No, no, no. I love that. I thought it was 0:17:57.990 --> 0:17:59.570 going to be worked into the intro. The noise sort 0:17:59.609 --> 0:18:02.469 of happened in the other room. Right, right. Where we 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.500 viewed the video and everything. And I immediately wanted to 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.700 compliment you on what I think is you finding your colors. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:09.560 Thank you. 0:18:09.780 --> 0:18:12.560 Because I recently found out I was in autumn, says Melissa. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:13.760 Did you actually do the thing? 0:18:14.619 --> 0:18:16.970 We didn't need, she used her eye. But we need 0:18:16.990 --> 0:18:19.930 to do it. But you wearing things that would suggest 0:18:19.970 --> 0:18:21.310 you've truly found your color. 0:18:21.330 --> 0:18:22.860 Thank you so much. Thank you. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.139 I think you're a summer. Yeah. That would rock for... 0:18:27.020 --> 0:18:27.639 That would rock. 0:18:27.660 --> 0:18:30.280 I think you're so right. It's not based on personality. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:30.780 No. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.060 It's purely aesthetics. 0:18:32.260 --> 0:18:34.500 Purely your color rating. Right. You know what I mean? 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.940 But would you want to be anything other than a summer, though? 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.530 No, that's why I was so flattered for a second. 0:18:38.550 --> 0:18:39.030 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:18:39.050 --> 0:18:40.070 I thought you were saying that about me. 0:18:40.170 --> 0:18:42.429 If someone points to you and says you're a summer. 0:18:42.450 --> 0:18:44.010 It's huge. Love that. 0:18:44.030 --> 0:18:47.240 I think you wrote the best song about... Gay travel. 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:48.580 Which one? 0:18:48.619 --> 0:18:50.800 What's the time where you are? Oh, yeah. You know 0:18:50.820 --> 0:18:51.080 what I mean? 0:18:51.180 --> 0:18:55.399 Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I really like that song. I 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:56.740 heard it the other day. The other day I was 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.420 driving home from a shoot and I had such a 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:04.359 sweet driver who decided that he thought that I would 0:19:04.380 --> 0:19:06.770 want to listen to my own music the whole way home. 0:19:07.590 --> 0:19:12.790 And it was on like... So every time a song 0:19:12.810 --> 0:19:15.200 would end, I would like clench my bum. 0:19:15.540 --> 0:19:15.740 Oh, no. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.360 So nervous about what is going to play because he was, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.699 I mean, Spotify or whatever was playing that music was 0:19:20.740 --> 0:19:24.940 like pulling out some absolute wild cards, including like a 0:19:25.060 --> 0:19:27.820 song from the Trolls soundtrack at one point that I 0:19:27.850 --> 0:19:28.919 like forgot that I did. 0:19:29.830 --> 0:19:30.330 Fright Fest. 0:19:30.430 --> 0:19:32.649 And so, but that song came on and I was like, 0:19:32.670 --> 0:19:34.030 this one's actually, I like this song. 0:19:34.630 --> 0:19:37.609 Now, and I have to tell you what is so 0:19:37.650 --> 0:19:40.800 aspirational about that song is every gig I once... some, 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:47.359 some guy leaving him a voice note. That's like joy, baby. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.020 baby who did that. 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.240 So i put on my instagram i was like send 0:19:51.300 --> 0:19:54.760 me voice notes of you saying um last night was 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:59.320 fucking crazy in like your language accent whatever yes and 0:19:59.820 --> 0:20:02.639 that guy like failed the assignment but just sent me 0:20:02.660 --> 0:20:05.000 a voice note anyway like just like a general like 0:20:05.020 --> 0:20:08.050 what's up one and he started it with joy baby 0:20:08.170 --> 0:20:12.620 like he was like talking and um dreamy it's actually 0:20:12.660 --> 0:20:17.070 iconic he basically so i used it in that song 0:20:17.380 --> 0:20:20.210 you used it in supernatural well so i use it 0:20:20.230 --> 0:20:21.330 first and once a time where you are and we 0:20:21.350 --> 0:20:23.470 got like a because everything obviously has to go through 0:20:23.510 --> 0:20:25.869 the label so it's like you do like a license 0:20:25.990 --> 0:20:30.290 or whatever for the for using his recording then it 0:20:30.310 --> 0:20:31.449 came time to use it again because i was like 0:20:31.470 --> 0:20:33.790 i'm gonna make this like my tag and he was 0:20:33.810 --> 0:20:38.230 like Yes, I would love that. $ 50 million. Not actually, 0:20:38.290 --> 0:20:41.869 but he was like, this is my opportunity to cash in. 0:20:41.900 --> 0:20:44.399 This is what I've said is worth. 0:20:44.660 --> 0:20:44.940 Yes. 0:20:45.619 --> 0:20:48.550 And we did pay him. We paid him for it. 0:20:48.540 --> 0:20:49.219 $ 50 million? 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.379 Not $ 50 million, but not far off. 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.050 But he'll be fine for the rest of his life. 0:20:54.070 --> 0:20:54.700 Totally, yeah. 0:20:54.990 --> 0:20:56.990 And his children and his children's children. 0:20:57.010 --> 0:20:58.410 And his children's children. 0:20:58.430 --> 0:20:59.850 And then I didn't use it on the new album. 0:21:00.369 --> 0:21:03.050 So I've got this very expensive Sample. 0:21:03.109 --> 0:21:03.679 Single use. 0:21:03.710 --> 0:21:05.949 I tried to recreate it. Like I tried to do 0:21:06.010 --> 0:21:08.669 it because if you just re-record it, then it's my recording, 0:21:08.710 --> 0:21:09.300 not his anymore. 0:21:09.820 --> 0:21:10.540 Your master's. 0:21:10.820 --> 0:21:14.220 My master, exactly. So I tried to do it. And 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.379 so I'm like in the mic like, Troy baby. And 0:21:16.500 --> 0:21:16.870 it just like.. 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:17.980 That sounded good. 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.980 It didn't have the same vibe. I could feel something 0:21:21.020 --> 0:21:22.159 was off. 0:21:22.540 --> 0:21:26.800 Would it be legally sound for you to do another 0:21:27.140 --> 0:21:30.290 open call for people to send in their version of 0:21:30.350 --> 0:21:30.950 Troy baby? 0:21:31.109 --> 0:21:31.330 Yes. 0:21:31.470 --> 0:21:35.159 And we would just... like tighten up the legal in 0:21:35.180 --> 0:21:36.580 the front half of that. You know what I mean? 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:37.109 Like on the front end. 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:38.760 Well, yeah, I mean, this is where, this is where 0:21:38.780 --> 0:21:41.120 you can either it's, it's make or break for your lawyers. 0:21:41.260 --> 0:21:41.660 Totally. 0:21:41.900 --> 0:21:44.460 Like if they, if they can make this work, they're staying. 0:21:44.660 --> 0:21:47.680 You know what? I just decided you don't even have 0:21:47.740 --> 0:21:50.130 to ask me. We don't have to do any legal stuff. 0:21:50.290 --> 0:21:51.869 I'm going to give it to you right now. There 0:21:51.890 --> 0:21:53.990 you go. Quiet, quiet, quiet on set. 0:21:55.130 --> 0:21:55.270 Okay. 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.240 Okay, you didn't have the consonants. 0:22:01.380 --> 0:22:03.480 It was a little too much. I'm going to go. 0:22:04.330 --> 0:22:05.310 Quiet on set. 0:22:07.330 --> 0:22:08.630 Troy, baby. 0:22:09.270 --> 0:22:09.810 It's French? 0:22:09.850 --> 0:22:10.830 A little bit. 0:22:11.270 --> 0:22:11.590 Cool. 0:22:11.950 --> 0:22:13.950 Yeah, because maybe there was a little too much sauce 0:22:14.010 --> 0:22:16.810 on the... Oh, you're giving me notes. 0:22:17.010 --> 0:22:18.450 Yeah, is that okay? 0:22:18.630 --> 0:22:20.710 We're trying to help each other here book Troy. 0:22:22.450 --> 0:22:29.100 <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>. 0:22:29.060 --> 0:22:31.440 <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>. 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:39.980 <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>. 0:22:39.820 --> 0:22:42.600 <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>. 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.400 <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>. 0:22:44.340 --> 0:22:49.640 <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> Tro. It doesn't sound like, 0:22:49.820 --> 0:22:51.850 it sounds like you have to really try like to 0:22:51.930 --> 0:22:53.070 say it. You know what I mean? 0:22:53.330 --> 0:22:54.350 Coming pretty naturally to me. 0:22:54.410 --> 0:22:54.690 Really? 0:22:54.970 --> 0:22:55.130 Yeah. 0:22:55.350 --> 0:22:56.530 Go for it. Be my guest. 0:22:56.630 --> 0:22:59.750 Try to say it right now. Oh my God. Tro. 0:22:59.830 --> 0:23:02.959 I love the new song. I think it sounds correctamundo. 0:23:03.460 --> 0:23:05.020 I think it sounds correctamundo. 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:05.919 Yeah. That's really chic. 0:23:05.940 --> 0:23:06.760 Correctamundo for sure. 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:08.260 I like that. I like it a lot. 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.300 Wait, what was I going to ask you? Oh, um, 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:12.199 Time shifter. Just try it. 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:12.600 Okay. 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:13.399 Try it, Tro. 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:13.859 I'll give it a go. 0:23:13.859 --> 0:23:15.580 Are you going to be... Is it about to be 0:23:15.660 --> 0:23:17.380 international moments? 0:23:17.460 --> 0:23:21.820 No, because I moved to New York yesterday. 0:23:22.260 --> 0:23:23.060 Fully moved? 0:23:23.460 --> 0:23:25.720 I mean, I brought like three suitcases. I'm here for.. 0:23:25.740 --> 0:23:26.080 You're here. 0:23:26.260 --> 0:23:27.240 I'm here till November. 0:23:27.260 --> 0:23:28.239 Okay, I thought you said.. 0:23:28.220 --> 0:23:30.060 I mean, I'm traveling because of like album stuff, but 0:23:30.140 --> 0:23:31.760 I'm like basing myself here. 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:33.310 Yeah. 0:23:33.330 --> 0:23:35.330 But you're doing the thing that every gay guy does, 0:23:35.530 --> 0:23:35.960 which is.. 0:23:36.050 --> 0:23:36.620 Come to the phone. 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.790 I live here now. Oh, right, right. And then you're like, great, 0:23:39.830 --> 0:23:44.080 let's hang out. I'm in L.A. I'm in L.A. until 2027. 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:49.240 Totally. I know that I'm like, I'm not really moving. 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:51.560 I mean, like, I'm giving it a go. That's what 0:23:51.580 --> 0:23:52.020 I'm trying. 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:53.800 Really, really try, Tro. 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:54.100 Yeah. 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.140 Because... All right, Bo. Well, we were saying with Terry, 0:24:00.590 --> 0:24:04.109 is your husband in any other city? We don't know. 0:24:04.130 --> 0:24:08.909 But likelihoods go up of husbands being.. 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:09.880 I have theories. 0:24:09.940 --> 0:24:11.440 In the city when we're talking about New York. 0:24:11.619 --> 0:24:11.860 Go ahead. 0:24:12.020 --> 0:24:12.720 Share your theories. 0:24:13.340 --> 0:24:14.080 If I had to guess. 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:14.440 Yeah. 0:24:15.020 --> 0:24:16.899 I think London. I think he's in London. 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:17.900 You think your husband's in London? 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:22.800 I think so. The British sensibility, sense of humor. I 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.160 just like when I'm there, I feel very comfortable. Yeah. 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:32.459 And at home, I like the vibes. Next, Melbourne. 0:24:32.980 --> 0:24:33.510 You think so? 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:33.880 Yeah. 0:24:34.530 --> 0:24:35.220 My family's there. 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:35.480 Home is home. 0:24:35.510 --> 0:24:36.510 It would be very convenient. 0:24:36.530 --> 0:24:36.790 Yeah. 0:24:37.630 --> 0:24:40.619 Then New York. And then a million other cities. And 0:24:40.660 --> 0:24:41.220 then LA. 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.950 But in terms of American cities, you think New York 0:24:44.210 --> 0:24:46.030 is offering the most husband potential. 0:24:46.710 --> 0:24:46.930 Yes. 0:24:47.050 --> 0:24:49.649 And this is not me saying like personality wise or 0:24:49.670 --> 0:24:52.010 anything like that. I just, I'm just like thinking logistically, 0:24:52.050 --> 0:24:55.810 like practically, I think it would be hard. I would love, like, 0:24:56.250 --> 0:25:01.129 I feel no attachment to living in either LA or 0:25:01.170 --> 0:25:03.389 New York. Like it sounds very nice to me to 0:25:03.410 --> 0:25:05.950 like live in Seattle or something like that. 0:25:05.990 --> 0:25:06.210 Yeah. 0:25:06.830 --> 0:25:10.959 Um, It's more just like, if I'm being real with myself, like, 0:25:11.020 --> 0:25:12.320 is that going to work? 0:25:12.380 --> 0:25:14.700 LA was practical because it was kind of the closest 0:25:14.780 --> 0:25:15.370 to Australia. 0:25:16.140 --> 0:25:17.810 I just sort of thought that I had to live there. 0:25:17.930 --> 0:25:19.409 That's what was so mind blowing. I came to New 0:25:19.450 --> 0:25:21.610 York like a couple of months ago. I was supposed 0:25:21.630 --> 0:25:23.790 to be here for 10 days. And then my friends 0:25:24.090 --> 0:25:26.070 who have a place here, they, they were away and 0:25:26.090 --> 0:25:27.250 they were like, just go stay for as long as 0:25:27.270 --> 0:25:29.590 you want. And so I stayed here for like five 0:25:29.650 --> 0:25:33.370 weeks and I was so productive. I worked. Yeah. And 0:25:33.609 --> 0:25:35.910 I was like, oh, I didn't really realize that this 0:25:35.970 --> 0:25:37.980 was like an option. I thought that I had to 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.400 live in LA and I don't think I do. 0:25:39.420 --> 0:25:41.160 I don't think anyone does. 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:44.390 Yeah. So, I mean, I like LA, but. 0:25:45.850 --> 0:25:46.910 Meanwhile, I'm moving there in January. 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:47.520 Are you? 0:25:47.859 --> 0:25:51.300 Well, just to be with my bi-coastal girl. 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:52.040 Right. 0:25:52.100 --> 0:25:54.980 He has now sort of, for the first time, started 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.820 to wrap his head around the idea of this very thing, 0:25:57.840 --> 0:25:59.629 which is, well, I thought I had to live in 0:25:59.650 --> 0:26:00.609 a certain place. 0:26:00.650 --> 0:26:01.869 And I had to live in New York for the 0:26:01.890 --> 0:26:02.550 past years. 0:26:02.650 --> 0:26:03.890 Oh, you actually did, though. 0:26:03.930 --> 0:26:04.570 Literally. 0:26:04.790 --> 0:26:06.250 And now I'm like, oh, wait, I don't have to 0:26:06.330 --> 0:26:07.950 be here in the fucking dead of winter. 0:26:07.970 --> 0:26:09.030 Totally. 0:26:09.930 --> 0:26:11.170 But are you on the husband hunt? 0:26:12.050 --> 0:26:12.210 Yeah. 0:26:12.540 --> 0:26:15.689 Because I feel like you are a more romantic person now. 0:26:16.820 --> 0:26:17.820 then you may be led on. 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:24.960 Yeah, I think I'm like a very sensitive person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:26:25.140 --> 0:26:26.980 Like you give kisses to the air just there. It 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:28.610 showed how romantic you were. 0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:29.590 Very sweet like that. 0:26:29.890 --> 0:26:30.310 Yeah. 0:26:31.350 --> 0:26:36.190 Yeah, I definitely, yeah, of course. I don't know. I'm 0:26:36.270 --> 0:26:37.970 also 31. 0:26:37.970 --> 0:26:39.470 Correctamundo. Correctamundo. 0:26:39.490 --> 0:26:43.750 So I'm like, it's a funny story. I'm nervous that 0:26:43.790 --> 0:26:45.070 he's going to listen to this. If he does, it's 0:26:45.109 --> 0:26:48.080 totally fine because I'm saying this with love. I went 0:26:48.420 --> 0:26:50.860 on a few dates and had a sort of like 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:55.520 very strong emotional connection, I would say, with a guy 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.200 who works in finance. And I was like, this is amazing. 0:26:59.780 --> 0:27:03.140 He has no idea what's going on. And I love 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:07.850 that about him. But there's a point. And it was 0:27:07.910 --> 0:27:12.210 after Coachella. And he was like, did you see that 0:27:12.290 --> 0:27:15.649 Madonna came out with Sabrina Carpenter? He was like, I 0:27:15.750 --> 0:27:16.950 thought that Madonna was dead. 0:27:17.630 --> 0:27:18.699 Oh no. 0:27:18.940 --> 0:27:19.540 There's a point. 0:27:19.619 --> 0:27:20.740 That's the point. 0:27:21.180 --> 0:27:23.180 That's a point, right? 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.020 Oh no, you can't, you can't do that. 0:27:25.300 --> 0:27:26.520 Like, I can't. 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.290 I thought Madonna was dead. You can't tell someone, you 0:27:31.390 --> 0:27:35.430 can't tell someone, oh, actually Madonna is alive and then 0:27:35.470 --> 0:27:36.990 continue a relationship. 0:27:37.010 --> 0:27:39.330 He was like, I thought she was like an old, old, 0:27:39.530 --> 0:27:43.200 old artist. Right. Like, I guess because the name sort 0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:44.659 of gives that, right? 0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.700 We need to get him to the dance-a-teria first of all. 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:48.240 Yeah. 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.270 He needs to be educated ASAP about just how alive 0:27:51.330 --> 0:27:51.830 she is. 0:27:52.070 --> 0:27:54.070 But I just want to say, just in case he 0:27:54.090 --> 0:27:55.130 does watch it, that guy's amazing. 0:27:55.470 --> 0:27:59.100 Yeah, of course he is. He's the best. He actually 0:27:59.150 --> 0:28:02.359 sounds like an incredible person, and I really do think 0:28:02.460 --> 0:28:05.780 there is another world where it happens. It's just that 0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.850 for the people in this room... You just can't date 0:28:08.890 --> 0:28:11.149 someone who's like, I didn't know Madonna was alive. 0:28:11.650 --> 0:28:13.570 At least not right now. Maybe when I slow down 0:28:13.630 --> 0:28:16.020 with like music and stuff like that, and I don't 0:28:16.060 --> 0:28:18.000 need someone to like bounce off of in the way 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.719 that I do right now. I think the person has 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:22.960 to know that Madonna's alive. 0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.220 Sometimes the butt goes through a lot. When the butt speaks, 0:28:29.750 --> 0:28:30.990 we listen. We sure do. 0:28:31.369 --> 0:28:34.169 Preparation H is the butt care expert and the number 0:28:34.270 --> 0:28:37.629 one doctor recommended brand helping people get relief from hemorrhoids 0:28:37.690 --> 0:28:38.530 with confidence. 0:28:38.650 --> 0:28:41.830 Because let's be honest, you know that moment when you're 0:28:41.870 --> 0:28:44.560 trying to focus on literally anything else in your butt 0:28:44.670 --> 0:28:49.960 is like, hi, excuse me? Yeah, that moment. 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Helping make 0:29:24.330 --> 0:29:25.970 life feel manageable again. 0:29:26.370 --> 0:29:29.370 Preparation H treats the issue rather than just masking it. 0:29:29.750 --> 0:29:32.130 No shame here, only solutions. 0:29:32.430 --> 0:29:36.540 So if your butt has been begging for a little kindness, 0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.890 wipe and treat for better relief with Preparation H. 0:29:41.580 --> 0:29:41.900 Troy. 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:41.990 Yep. 0:29:42.860 --> 0:29:46.060 Tro. Correctamundo. Correctamundo. 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:51.170 Tro, would you recommend other people go into the fragrance business? 0:29:52.290 --> 0:29:53.870 Hell yeah. 0:29:54.070 --> 0:29:55.970 Because Greta and I want to start a new fragrance. 0:29:56.010 --> 0:29:57.310 Do you? Do you? 0:29:57.350 --> 0:29:58.950 We want to start a fragrance line called Faja. 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:04.370 Faja? From Austin Powers Goldmember. Yeah. What would it smell like? Well, 0:30:04.550 --> 0:30:05.750 I think it would be.. 0:30:05.570 --> 0:30:06.950 It sounds expensive. 0:30:07.110 --> 0:30:07.550 Faja. 0:30:07.590 --> 0:30:10.010 Faja doesn't... But it's goofy. Okay. 0:30:10.130 --> 0:30:12.590 But it's chic. It's like a comedian fragrance. It's a 0:30:12.610 --> 0:30:15.560 comedian fragrance. Got it. You know what I mean? I 0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.000 want to release one which is just... It's a blue 0:30:18.060 --> 0:30:21.020 bottle and it's just the shape of my body and 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.220 I'm just like this. And it's called Bold. 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.940 Gorgeous. I love that. I wouldn't lead with the comedian 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.020 fragrance thing that, that like it was chic in my head. 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:32.520 It doesn't feel like it smells good. 0:30:32.620 --> 0:30:35.219 I just feel like, like sweaty standup. You know what 0:30:35.260 --> 0:30:36.560 I mean? Came to my mind. 0:30:37.900 --> 0:30:38.260 You're right. 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:39.600 Like nervous sweat. 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:40.540 Nervous sweat standup. 0:30:40.780 --> 0:30:42.820 But wait, you've, you've told us a million times, but 0:30:43.020 --> 0:30:44.420 how did you come up with, with what was the, 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:45.940 what's the name origin of Sulane? 0:30:46.310 --> 0:30:50.350 It's okay. So the name it's Yiddish. And even I get, 0:30:50.710 --> 0:30:54.000 I'm like, I, I get, nervous to say it for 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:55.580 other people because i'm like i know how to say 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:56.780 it but i just i don't want to make. 0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.720 People don't don't think about other people. 0:30:58.740 --> 0:31:02.180 I know right so so it's yiddish it's and it 0:31:02.220 --> 0:31:03.850 means to long years it's like a. 0:31:03.850 --> 0:31:06.290 Toast to long years oh i love that. 0:31:06.410 --> 0:31:10.690 When someone sneezes yes yeah when someone sneezes you say 0:31:11.670 --> 0:31:13.590 which just means like bless you yeah i think and 0:31:13.610 --> 0:31:16.010 that means to health and so then there's too long 0:31:16.030 --> 0:31:19.830 years and um And I did it with my brother 0:31:19.870 --> 0:31:22.360 and it was all about like family and heritage. And 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.640 we were like, you know what? Till like many, many years. 0:31:24.660 --> 0:31:26.140 This is the one who now has two kids. I 0:31:26.140 --> 0:31:28.700 was like to many years of like this vibe. 0:31:29.420 --> 0:31:30.980 You are an artist. Wow. 0:31:31.060 --> 0:31:31.850 Thank you. You are. 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.400 I'm sorry. Even just you talking about that. I have. Okay. 0:31:34.460 --> 0:31:36.800 So this is, this is what I wanted to reveal 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.080 because I don't think there's lore that people don't know. 0:31:40.220 --> 0:31:43.380 So I have been in the recording studio with Troy. 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:44.340 I wasn't going to bring it up. 0:31:44.660 --> 0:31:47.660 I was finishing my album. Have you heard of Christmas? 0:31:47.780 --> 0:31:50.750 The week. that the Rush music video was coming out. 0:31:50.790 --> 0:31:52.310 So we were all on what I referred to at 0:31:52.350 --> 0:31:55.630 the time and sometimes still do as The Compound at Leland's. 0:31:56.130 --> 0:31:58.560 And you were there and it was so exciting because 0:31:58.780 --> 0:32:03.480 it was coming out and we were literally putting my 0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:09.030 album together and Troy's voice is all over my album. 0:32:09.230 --> 0:32:12.610 It is. First of all, I might get in trouble 0:32:12.670 --> 0:32:14.320 because I was signed at the time. Fuck him. I... 0:32:17.430 --> 0:32:21.160 There's this weird like lull before something comes out where 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.180 like the rush video was done. Everything is done. And 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.800 so I'm like kind of free for a week, you know? 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.140 And cause I'm not even really doing press yet. Cause 0:32:30.180 --> 0:32:31.959 it's not out yet. You know what I mean? And 0:32:32.020 --> 0:32:34.220 so I was just chilling at the compound all the time. 0:32:34.580 --> 0:32:38.610 And you guys are making this gorgeous Christmas album. And I, 0:32:38.910 --> 0:32:43.430 if I'm at Leland's house and he's working, I like 0:32:43.570 --> 0:32:46.610 almost 100% of the time will insert myself into his work. job, 0:32:46.710 --> 0:32:47.250 whatever it is. 0:32:47.270 --> 0:32:47.969 Which is wonderful. 0:32:48.030 --> 0:32:51.900 So I love doing a little like sneaky writing for 0:32:52.260 --> 0:32:54.480 X or Y or whatever. It's like very fun for me. 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.360 And you were writing this gorgeous Christmas album and you 0:32:57.380 --> 0:33:00.700 needed some background vocals and you were amazing. And we 0:33:00.740 --> 0:33:03.060 were vocal producing you and I remember giving you notes. 0:33:03.100 --> 0:33:06.240 The best was, so there's like, I had like nine 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.080 songs I was doing and there was three where we 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.690 were writing kind of new. And so we were, there's 0:33:11.790 --> 0:33:15.250 one called Rum Pum Pum. And I pitch, I like 0:33:15.290 --> 0:33:17.230 sort of come in with my idea of what it is. 0:33:17.930 --> 0:33:21.450 And then it's Leland and Troy. And I'm like, well, 0:33:21.530 --> 0:33:23.190 here we go. Like, if I can't do it for them, 0:33:23.210 --> 0:33:25.510 I can't do it for anyone. So I do it. 0:33:25.540 --> 0:33:27.900 And they're like, mm-hmm. I leave the room. I come back. 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.720 And Troy's got the cans in his hand. And I'm like, oh, Troy. 0:33:31.020 --> 0:33:34.860 Troy basically vocal produced Rum Pum Pum. So cool. With Brett. 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.120 Rum Pum Pum. It's the one that's like, shake that 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:42.550 fat Christmas ass. Let it go. Hit the snow. 0:33:43.130 --> 0:33:43.510 Oh, my god. 0:33:43.530 --> 0:33:43.670 Yes. 0:33:43.810 --> 0:33:44.650 I remember this. 0:33:44.810 --> 0:33:45.690 Rum Pum Pum. 0:33:46.010 --> 0:33:46.190 Fuck. 0:33:47.770 --> 0:33:50.790 It goes like that. It's like my banger. Yeah. The 0:33:50.830 --> 0:33:53.370 girls throw ass at my shows when Rum Pum Pum 0:33:53.410 --> 0:33:54.650 comes on. You have to come see it. 0:33:54.950 --> 0:33:57.110 Are you vocally on that or are you producing? 0:33:57.190 --> 0:33:58.050 Am I vocally on. 0:33:58.390 --> 0:34:02.270 Rum Pum Pum? You are. You're vocally on Every Christmas Eve, 0:34:02.310 --> 0:34:04.590 which is my song from the perspective of Mrs. Claus. 0:34:04.870 --> 0:34:07.020 What's the gorgeous ballad? 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.979 You Still Make It Rain on Christmas. Oh, I love that. Yeah, 0:34:11.020 --> 0:34:13.319 he's on that. And then he's on Rum Pum Pum, 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.719 which he's responsible for a lot of my vocal take 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.069 in that. Troye Sivan. And I was like, can I 0:34:18.130 --> 0:34:20.290 credit Troye Sivan in the notes? And they were like, no, 0:34:20.330 --> 0:34:23.009 he's a signed artist elsewhere. He can't. So it's only 0:34:23.070 --> 0:34:23.890 now that we reveal. 0:34:24.030 --> 0:34:24.470 Totally. 0:34:24.590 --> 0:34:25.940 Totally. 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.219 I have to insert myself in this beautiful moment for 0:34:29.260 --> 0:34:31.660 both of you. I don't know if you remember this, 0:34:31.739 --> 0:34:33.859 but Matt and I got into a huge fight over 0:34:33.900 --> 0:34:35.020 FaceTime that week. 0:34:35.940 --> 0:34:37.200 You weren't there at the time. You weren't there at 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:37.660 the time. 0:34:37.860 --> 0:34:39.460 I wasn't there, but I do remember. 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:40.259 But you heard about it. 0:34:40.500 --> 0:34:41.160 Yeah, I heard about it. 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.080 This was when I was going through a fucking.. 0:34:43.410 --> 0:34:45.790 Breakdown because I was flying back and forth shooting Wicked 0:34:45.810 --> 0:34:47.830 and doing SNL and it was in the summer but 0:34:47.850 --> 0:34:52.640 I was like I have to get on medication it 0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:55.260 was an important time that was that was a that was. 0:34:55.260 --> 0:34:58.259 A moment in the culture like we were in Matt 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.960 and Bowen fighting I was just like so much was 0:35:01.020 --> 0:35:03.280 going on with you and I was doing this thing 0:35:03.340 --> 0:35:07.030 and then literally in the next room Troy was like, okay, 0:35:07.070 --> 0:35:09.070 I guess the Rush music video is coming out in 0:35:09.170 --> 0:35:12.259 three hours. And we were like, this is so exciting. 0:35:12.660 --> 0:35:15.980 And someone made lasagna? Dave Mazzoni came over and made 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:17.910 lasagna for us all. So nice. 0:35:18.010 --> 0:35:18.290 Wow. 0:35:19.100 --> 0:35:20.339 Amazing memory, both of you. 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, Henry Kapurski, who wrote all of 0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:28.239 my Christmas music with me, is the saxophone on... The saxophonist, 0:35:28.500 --> 0:35:30.620 if you will. The saxophonist on your album. 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.370 Yeah, yeah, on How to Stay With You, on my 0:35:32.410 --> 0:35:32.830 last album. 0:35:32.969 --> 0:35:33.209 Yeah. 0:35:33.350 --> 0:35:38.189 Love. Yes, yes, I knew that. And it doesn't end there, 0:35:38.230 --> 0:35:39.870 because you also, and this is what I wanted to 0:35:39.910 --> 0:35:43.440 say earlier, because this movie needs its flowers. You're the 0:35:43.500 --> 0:35:47.840 star of three months, which is Jared Freider's writing and 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.739 directorial debut. And that's on Paramount Plus now. And you 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.469 are fantastic. You're so good. 0:35:53.770 --> 0:35:56.509 And then Jared wins Gay Guy Normal, right? 0:35:56.550 --> 0:35:56.690 Yes. 0:35:56.710 --> 0:35:58.569 He won Best Gay Guy Normal. And I believe, did 0:35:58.610 --> 0:35:59.850 you win Best Gay Guy Famous? 0:36:00.030 --> 0:36:01.230 I think I've won it before, yeah. 0:36:01.290 --> 0:36:01.630 Yeah. 0:36:01.670 --> 0:36:03.570 And I get offended every time I'm not nominated. 0:36:04.380 --> 0:36:06.879 I don't want you to be offended. But people generally 0:36:06.900 --> 0:36:08.670 take it, you take it personally. And I understand why. 0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:09.140 Very much so. 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.080 Especially because I've been nominated before. So I was like, 0:36:11.100 --> 0:36:14.640 what did I do? Between last year and this year. 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:20.379 I guess, why don't we see how the album goes? Wow. 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.339 Would you be okay if you were nominated and would 0:36:23.380 --> 0:36:27.339 win another category? That's not gay guy at all. That's like, 0:36:27.420 --> 0:36:29.920 oh my God, like best hat wearer, Troye Sivan. 0:36:30.300 --> 0:36:32.200 Is hats going to be a big part of the rollout? 0:36:33.380 --> 0:36:35.480 TBD. Today's literally day one. Like you guys are one 0:36:35.500 --> 0:36:36.320 of my first interviews. 0:36:36.340 --> 0:36:38.120 I love wearing a hat. I think this feels like 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:38.479 a thing. 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:39.140 Does it really? 0:36:39.180 --> 0:36:40.600 You need to look into Ziggy Chen. 0:36:41.060 --> 0:36:42.799 It's that weird thing where I put it on and 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.180 I'm like, I look at myself in the mirror and 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.120 I'm like, is this? It's really good. 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:46.620 It's you. 0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.180 Do I believe myself? 0:36:48.540 --> 0:36:49.879 Yes. It's not wearing you. 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:50.739 Oh, really? 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.420 Well, nothing does. No, you look at everything. 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.259 No, when I wear it forwards, it's wearing me. 0:36:55.989 --> 0:36:57.609 Can we say that or no? 0:36:58.469 --> 0:37:00.390 I mean, all of a sudden I'm like. I don't know. 0:37:00.469 --> 0:37:03.989 I like this. Now it's giving actor. The other one 0:37:04.030 --> 0:37:07.690 was giving musician. This is a musician. 0:37:07.930 --> 0:37:08.210 Really? 0:37:08.410 --> 0:37:08.670 Yeah. 0:37:08.790 --> 0:37:09.110 Okay. 0:37:09.270 --> 0:37:10.229 The other way was an actor. 0:37:10.930 --> 0:37:13.310 Wow i know yeah i mean it's like immediately i 0:37:13.330 --> 0:37:14.950 want to like do a british accent or something like 0:37:14.969 --> 0:37:16.650 that when it's on the yeah so. 0:37:16.530 --> 0:37:19.330 You do want a british boyfriend i just think. 0:37:19.219 --> 0:37:23.020 They're funny they're very british irish whatever like yeah you 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.680 know like funny. 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.000 Funny and they funny in a way that we're like 0:37:27.020 --> 0:37:27.980 they don't give a shit. 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.779 They don't give a shit at all yeah i can 0:37:29.820 --> 0:37:33.080 like get a beer with someone that i've just met 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.420 and immediately we're like off to the races shooting the shit. Yeah. 0:37:36.500 --> 0:37:37.860 I went on one day with a British guy in 0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.299 the UK and was like, Oh, this is, this is 0:37:40.340 --> 0:37:41.009 really nice. 0:37:41.180 --> 0:37:41.450 Yeah. 0:37:41.469 --> 0:37:42.110 I haven't heard from him. 0:37:42.370 --> 0:37:45.830 The way they describe things is very, very fun. Enchanting. 0:37:45.989 --> 0:37:48.070 I mean, that was one of my favorite things about 0:37:48.310 --> 0:37:54.109 dating a Brit was the descriptions of things in, in 0:37:54.190 --> 0:37:58.130 their slang is very, it's, it's always entertaining. 0:37:58.850 --> 0:38:02.739 There's also a, um, there's kind of like a, chillness, 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:07.910 a baseline chillness that I respond really well to. I find, 0:38:08.610 --> 0:38:13.129 no offense, Americans, I had this issue when I first 0:38:13.170 --> 0:38:17.710 moved to LA where people, I heard from like two 0:38:17.770 --> 0:38:20.390 or three people, or I heard from other people about 0:38:20.410 --> 0:38:22.609 those people that they thought that I didn't like them. 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:23.860 Because you're chill. 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.950 And I was appalled because I... One of them I 0:38:26.989 --> 0:38:29.649 actually didn't like. The other ones I did. 0:38:29.670 --> 0:38:31.250 You were like, God, I'm not doing a good job 0:38:31.310 --> 0:38:31.860 of faking it. 0:38:31.910 --> 0:38:36.469 Yeah, exactly. But it upset me because I was like, 0:38:36.570 --> 0:38:38.850 I hope that I'm not giving like this rancid vibe. 0:38:38.930 --> 0:38:39.290 Yeah. 0:38:39.570 --> 0:38:43.810 And I think that British people wouldn't get it mixed up. 0:38:43.830 --> 0:38:46.690 I just think that there's like a way, especially in 0:38:46.850 --> 0:38:48.690 LA of like, you know, the vibe where it's like 0:38:48.710 --> 0:38:50.589 you meet someone 10 minutes before and then they're like, 0:38:51.430 --> 0:38:53.370 we have to go to Palm Springs. We got a 0:38:53.430 --> 0:38:56.049 Joshua tree together. You know what I mean? And it's like, 0:38:56.950 --> 0:38:59.830 to me that is such a terrifying idea and prospect 0:39:00.390 --> 0:39:03.319 and so i would never say that to. 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.900 Anyone that is very american saying i love you at 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:08.799 the end of a conversation where you just met i'm 0:39:08.860 --> 0:39:09.460 obsessed with. 0:39:09.340 --> 0:39:11.860 You i love you like i i really like that 0:39:12.620 --> 0:39:14.379 i like the idea of it but i just don't 0:39:14.460 --> 0:39:15.859 feel it in my heart so i don't i don't 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.370 say it like i don't do that and i think. 0:39:18.260 --> 0:39:21.010 That um right I don't feel it in my heart, 0:39:21.110 --> 0:39:23.609 so I don't say it. I don't do that. But 0:39:24.010 --> 0:39:26.640 there's no Aussie or British equivalent to that, you think? 0:39:26.860 --> 0:39:29.180 Of like, oh, you're lovely. 0:39:29.260 --> 0:39:34.719 I just, I can't imagine, I think an Australian would 0:39:34.739 --> 0:39:37.759 be like, why are you being like so full on? 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:38.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.670 Like it's, I think if anything, maybe, and maybe this 0:39:43.690 --> 0:39:45.810 was the issue, maybe there's like a standoffish thing where 0:39:45.850 --> 0:39:48.330 it's like, you know, you want to be super friendly 0:39:48.370 --> 0:39:51.820 and polite. Yeah. And part of being polite is that 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.200 you don't want to make the person feel like attacked 0:39:55.219 --> 0:39:56.060 or like, you know what I mean? 0:39:56.300 --> 0:39:56.520 Right. 0:39:56.540 --> 0:39:58.140 And so you just want to be like kind of chill. 0:39:58.180 --> 0:40:01.640 No, everyone, everyone treats everyone like, like British culture is like, 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:03.540 it's like everyone's a cat. 0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:04.340 Yeah. 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:05.700 And like in American culture, everyone's a dog. 0:40:06.570 --> 0:40:07.609 I don't know. 0:40:07.810 --> 0:40:10.230 The one and only time I went to Australia, I 0:40:10.270 --> 0:40:12.660 actually saw you there because it was World Pride. Yes. 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.240 And I went to that restaurant. That place was so good. 0:40:15.300 --> 0:40:15.900 The Italian one? 0:40:16.140 --> 0:40:16.420 Yeah. 0:40:16.660 --> 0:40:18.480 I love that place. I was there like three days ago. 0:40:18.700 --> 0:40:21.900 Literally. And everyone there is so, it's like you're saying, 0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.000 everyone there is so kind. And the one thing I 0:40:24.140 --> 0:40:26.540 loved the most about being in Sydney for World Pride 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.400 is how excited they were to be hosting Pride. 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:31.420 So cool. 0:40:31.460 --> 0:40:33.779 Who performed that? Was it Kylie? It was Kylie. Kylie. 0:40:34.510 --> 0:40:35.950 And it was major. 0:40:35.989 --> 0:40:36.290 Major. 0:40:36.489 --> 0:40:40.970 And it was just, there was a citywide, I don't 0:40:41.010 --> 0:40:44.180 know if I was necessarily in a gay part. It 0:40:44.219 --> 0:40:46.560 didn't feel like that. It was like everyone in the 0:40:46.620 --> 0:40:50.400 city is proud that it's hosting gay pride. And then 0:40:50.460 --> 0:40:55.200 it also didn't feel like an overwhelming party-like celebration. It 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.920 felt more joyous and jovial and everyone was included. And 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.380 maybe that's speaking to this thing. It didn't feel too much. 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.479 It felt like a lot of enough. Yeah. 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:08.460 You know, Mardi Gras didn't like pride didn't get politicized 0:41:08.500 --> 0:41:11.259 in the same way that it has in like the 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.649 U S I feel like, like the whole city really, really, 0:41:14.670 --> 0:41:16.730 really gets around it. It's really, it's very special. 0:41:17.350 --> 0:41:19.890 It's not like a topic that's taboo, like whether or 0:41:19.950 --> 0:41:22.850 not we're going to, you know, speak about who in 0:41:22.870 --> 0:41:25.750 this community is actually deserving of this treatment or whatever. 0:41:25.810 --> 0:41:28.330 It's just kind of like, no, and like people, like 0:41:28.410 --> 0:41:31.109 everyone comes to the parade cause it's fun and you know, 0:41:31.170 --> 0:41:33.740 like it's not like, A thing like that. 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:35.200 It's not like a statement. 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:35.839 Not at all. 0:41:36.140 --> 0:41:42.399 Yeah. Well, speaking of Australia, which is where you're birthed from, 0:41:42.540 --> 0:41:45.420 we should go to the beginning and ask you the question, really. 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.439 The central question of this podcast, which is, Troye Sivan, 0:41:48.460 --> 0:41:50.219 what was the culture that made you say culture was 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:50.640 for you? 0:41:51.020 --> 0:41:56.940 I think it was seeing Nicole Kidman in Moulin Rouge. 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.520 Because I was young enough to... that I found the 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:04.660 first 10 minutes of the movie scary. Like I was 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.569 like afraid because it's like, it's a panic. 0:42:08.790 --> 0:42:10.450 It's a cut every half second. 0:42:10.550 --> 0:42:13.509 It's so crazy. And I remember I was watching it 0:42:13.530 --> 0:42:15.850 with my mom and I was like, I don't like this. 0:42:16.550 --> 0:42:19.210 And then once it calms down and you start to 0:42:19.230 --> 0:42:22.719 get into the story and I saw Nicole giving this 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.810 performance that's like perfectly nuanced, but also kind of like 0:42:25.930 --> 0:42:27.969 camp sometimes when she's like, you know, when she's like, 0:42:27.989 --> 0:42:31.400 like all that stuff, I was like, what is going on? 0:42:31.410 --> 0:42:34.870 And then the songs. And I was like, Oh, something 0:42:34.969 --> 0:42:39.560 interesting is happening in my spirit right now. And actually 0:42:39.660 --> 0:42:41.960 that's part of the reason why, because my other answer 0:42:42.219 --> 0:42:45.690 for that question was going to be, Nicole talking about 0:42:45.710 --> 0:42:49.030 Tweety Bird on this podcast. 0:42:49.090 --> 0:42:50.150 You didn't like culture until then. 0:42:50.190 --> 0:42:53.680 There was a hint of sateen in there. Oh yeah. 0:42:53.700 --> 0:42:57.940 The breathiness. She was beginning to have, she was feeling 0:42:57.980 --> 0:42:58.560 the frisson. 0:42:58.820 --> 0:42:59.380 Totally. 0:42:59.580 --> 0:42:59.799 Yeah. 0:42:59.920 --> 0:43:02.060 Totally. She was like overcome in the same way that, 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:03.859 you know, so I recognized a little bit of what 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.080 made me like fall in love with her. Wow. 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:10.250 Which is like, um, a campiness, but like something so 0:43:10.330 --> 0:43:12.129 inviting and she's always been inviting. 0:43:12.150 --> 0:43:12.250 Yeah. 0:43:12.510 --> 0:43:13.350 So warm. 0:43:13.489 --> 0:43:16.969 Even though she presents sometimes as like statuesque and like 0:43:17.090 --> 0:43:19.969 impervious and like icy, but not icy, but just like, 0:43:20.650 --> 0:43:22.410 you're just like, whoa, what's going on here? 0:43:22.430 --> 0:43:24.319 But she's warm. She invites you in. 0:43:24.550 --> 0:43:27.100 She is. I asked her to do the music video. 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:32.740 So good. And I was on a FaceTime call or Zoom, sorry. 0:43:33.980 --> 0:43:36.340 And I made a joke to the person that I 0:43:36.380 --> 0:43:38.459 was on Zoom with because my phone started to ring 0:43:39.060 --> 0:43:41.219 and it was an unknown number. And I was like, 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:44.640 without any context to the person, I was like, if 0:43:44.660 --> 0:43:45.860 this is Nicole Kim and I'm going to have to 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.110 leave the call. Right. And then I wasn't going to answer. 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.430 I thought I was just sort of being like funny. Um, 0:43:51.710 --> 0:43:53.549 and then, you know how Apple does the like voice 0:43:53.570 --> 0:43:57.210 note as it's coming in. I see. Hi, darling, Troy. 0:43:57.310 --> 0:44:00.270 It's Nick. And I was like, Oh, and you knew 0:44:00.550 --> 0:44:03.660 I slammed my laptop close, answered the phone. And she 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:07.160 was like, I just watched your video. Cause I, I 0:44:07.180 --> 0:44:08.910 made a video, you know, asking her to do it. 0:44:09.780 --> 0:44:12.430 And I listened to the song and, I would love 0:44:12.510 --> 0:44:15.200 to do it. And then I was, I was silent 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.100 because I was waiting for a butt. 0:44:17.620 --> 0:44:17.880 Yeah. 0:44:18.060 --> 0:44:19.779 And it was a butt that never came. And she 0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.779 was like, I, I'm so down. Like I, she was 0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:24.759 just the sweetest in the world. And then it was 0:44:24.780 --> 0:44:25.859 like the funnest day ever. 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:28.259 Yeah. How long have you been connected to her? Was 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:29.279 it before Boy Erased? 0:44:29.300 --> 0:44:29.939 No, Boy Erased. 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:30.759 It was Boy Erased. 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:32.620 So we did Boy Erased. I don't remember what year 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.850 that was. Maybe like 2018. 0:44:34.830 --> 0:44:35.029 Yeah. 0:44:35.469 --> 0:44:38.090 Um, I met her for the first time there. Um, 0:44:40.380 --> 0:44:43.740 And I mean, especially as an Australian, like she's just everything. 0:44:43.900 --> 0:44:44.180 Yeah. 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:45.300 Truly everything. 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.900 And, and, and can we just put some, some respect 0:44:48.980 --> 0:44:50.300 on Baz? Yes. 0:44:50.860 --> 0:44:51.140 Like. 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:51.819 Yes. 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:53.620 Always Baz. Always Baz. 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:54.660 Love his vibe. 0:44:54.739 --> 0:44:57.220 He is the kook of all kooks. 0:44:57.219 --> 0:44:59.339 100%. Yeah. I love him. 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:00.760 And apparently, I guess. 0:45:00.660 --> 0:45:04.219 I can't really talk about this, but he, and I 0:45:04.500 --> 0:45:08.780 totally forgot about it, but after the Taylor wedding. 0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:09.300 Mm-hmm. 0:45:09.870 --> 0:45:13.290 Multiple texts of people being like, so you and Baz, like, 0:45:15.090 --> 0:45:18.990 were like, fighting each other in a way that like. 0:45:19.230 --> 0:45:20.910 At the wedding, you fought? 0:45:21.180 --> 0:45:26.380 Baz and, Baz has a bit with me. Oh, you bitch. Exactly. 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.500 He'll run up to me at something. If we're at 0:45:29.540 --> 0:45:30.420 the same place, he'd be like. 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.640 Oh, you bitch. Oh, you bitch. And then he'll just like, 0:45:34.739 --> 0:45:35.259 say that like. 0:45:35.300 --> 0:45:36.180 I really want to do that. 0:45:36.340 --> 0:45:36.600 Huh? 0:45:36.739 --> 0:45:38.070 I really want to do that. Like next time I 0:45:38.110 --> 0:45:38.340 see you. 0:45:39.910 --> 0:45:43.110 To me anyone can do this with me I actually 0:45:43.150 --> 0:45:45.230 I love them and I black out because I'm just 0:45:45.270 --> 0:45:47.050 like having a blast. 0:45:46.570 --> 0:45:50.430 Totally how do you respond I'm just like I start 0:45:50.590 --> 0:45:52.839 laughing and I'm like yes Baz it's me I'm so 0:45:52.860 --> 0:45:55.160 so yes I am I'm such a bitch to you 0:45:55.180 --> 0:45:56.700 I just. 0:45:55.980 --> 0:45:58.100 Play along with it but I just throw my hands 0:45:58.120 --> 0:45:59.279 up we gotta get him in here I think he 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.239 would thrive on our set he would thrive on our 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.380 set there's so many things that's a good guess you 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:08.259 know what I mean what's this he's superb Yeah. 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.739 Oh my God. And such a character. 0:46:11.940 --> 0:46:13.040 He's like, that's what, that's what it is. 0:46:13.060 --> 0:46:15.060 I had a, I had a zoom with him once. 0:46:15.140 --> 0:46:17.839 That was the first time I actually met him. And he, 0:46:18.489 --> 0:46:20.770 he does this iconic thing on his Instagram where he, 0:46:20.950 --> 0:46:22.650 have you seen, he covers the camera and he says 0:46:23.030 --> 0:46:26.450 action and he starts filming himself. And it's so amazing. 0:46:26.590 --> 0:46:28.390 I have not seen this on Instagram. 0:46:28.489 --> 0:46:28.910 Action. 0:46:29.110 --> 0:46:33.710 It's perfect. And so I, I'm so nervous because I'm 0:46:33.730 --> 0:46:35.810 about to do a zoom with Baz Luhrmann. And as 0:46:35.830 --> 0:46:38.460 I said, we learned, we were just like, Formative experience. 0:46:38.500 --> 0:46:38.739 Yeah. 0:46:39.460 --> 0:46:43.280 And I get on the zoom and it's like, uh, 0:46:43.510 --> 0:46:45.989 it's a weird blank screen, but I can tell that 0:46:46.010 --> 0:46:48.140 it's not a digital blank screen. Like it's not, the 0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:49.960 video is not paused or anything like that. I'm like, 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.029 why is it moving? I realized it's a piece of paper. 0:46:52.070 --> 0:46:53.110 I was going to say it's a piece of paper. 0:46:53.270 --> 0:46:55.509 Being held up in front of the camera. And for 0:46:55.530 --> 0:47:00.009 the zoom, he goes, action. And it was truly one 0:47:00.030 --> 0:47:01.390 of the best moments of my life. 0:47:01.660 --> 0:47:05.600 Like that saying, like my life, a movie, like everyone's life, 0:47:05.620 --> 0:47:09.640 a movie. Everyone's life, a movie when Baz is in 0:47:09.660 --> 0:47:10.060 the space. 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:14.320 That's rule of culture number 19. Everyone's life, a movie 0:47:14.380 --> 0:47:17.400 when Baz is in the space. I won't even talk 0:47:17.460 --> 0:47:21.680 to people who say they don't like Moulin Rouge. I'm like, okay, great. 0:47:21.739 --> 0:47:23.049 You've told me everything I need to know. 0:47:23.070 --> 0:47:23.770 I've never heard that. 0:47:24.290 --> 0:47:27.750 People, in the context of Baz Luhrmann films? No, just 0:47:27.810 --> 0:47:32.830 like people who, I don't know, there's like an opinionated 0:47:33.010 --> 0:47:36.930 flavor of person that's just like, they think it's too 0:47:36.969 --> 0:47:40.400 chaotic for its own good. Interesting. That's the point. I 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.040 really do, I mean, I get it. If you're sitting 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.219 in front of it and you just don't like watching it, whatever, 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:46.879 I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong, but 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:47.719 I don't. 0:47:48.250 --> 0:47:52.130 It's a classic example of when some, when people point 0:47:52.270 --> 0:47:55.000 out a thing that they don't like about a specific work, 0:47:55.180 --> 0:47:57.000 it's like, that's the point. 0:47:57.180 --> 0:47:58.820 Yeah. The point is that it's chaotic. 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.799 The point is that there's like random song choices that 0:48:01.820 --> 0:48:04.450 then get translated to the musical version on Broadway. It's like, 0:48:05.180 --> 0:48:07.750 It is on purpose. And if you don't like it, 0:48:07.750 --> 0:48:08.930 then that's fine. Then it's good that you recognize that 0:48:08.950 --> 0:48:10.589 you don't like it. Like move along. 0:48:10.610 --> 0:48:13.029 But it's a lot better for our culture that we 0:48:13.070 --> 0:48:16.530 have it. I can't see the fabric of pop culture 0:48:16.570 --> 0:48:18.810 without it, to be honest with you. Like I remember 0:48:18.870 --> 0:48:20.010 the soundtrack album. 0:48:20.030 --> 0:48:20.650 Lady Marmalade. 0:48:20.850 --> 0:48:24.580 Lady Marmalade. I mean, just it has dimension as a project. 0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:28.259 And he is responsible for creating all of the dimensions 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.590 of that, especially on something that exists in culture. Yes. 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.660 that then he then explodes like it's just what it's 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:38.880 injected with is so unique to him and so vital 0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:43.180 to everything else in the pop culture ecosystem and it 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:47.459 really did make him an international yeah and he's australian. 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.319 Brand he's australian yeah and it was the first time 0:48:49.460 --> 0:48:52.380 so like i like kind of sheltered ish culturally like 0:48:52.420 --> 0:48:55.569 did not grow up with like marilyn monroe movies or 0:48:55.620 --> 0:48:58.750 like David Bowie albums. Like it was the first time 0:48:58.910 --> 0:49:00.980 I heard like heroes. It was the first time I 0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:02.799 heard like diamonds are gold's best friend. I was like, 0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:05.759 it was like, it was, it is a perfect, yeah. Right. 0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.420 It's like, it's, it's a, that's, it's a perfect answer 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.950 for the question, which is what is the culture that 0:49:10.969 --> 0:49:13.049 made you say cultures for me? It's like, it is 0:49:13.090 --> 0:49:16.330 a perfect like sampling menu. Yes. 0:49:16.489 --> 0:49:17.250 It's an entry point. 0:49:21.940 --> 0:49:27.529 There's also something about giving a truly crazy performance in 0:49:27.570 --> 0:49:29.589 the blank like that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, 0:49:29.890 --> 0:49:31.529 she is taking the space as the lead of that 0:49:31.570 --> 0:49:35.360 movie and giving a batshit performance. And there's no scoring 0:49:35.420 --> 0:49:38.160 or anything that's telling her, like, yeah, you're matching the tone. Like, 0:49:38.540 --> 0:49:42.660 they're creating a tone together and also totally underrated Jim Broadbent. 0:49:42.980 --> 0:49:45.100 So good. Jim Broadbent and Moulin Rouge. 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:45.779 Wait, who is that? 0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:51.940 Ziegler. Ziegler. Like absolutely tearing it up, like doing something 0:49:51.980 --> 0:49:53.899 that had to feel nuts in the room. I know. 0:49:54.540 --> 0:49:55.560 But you have to just. 0:49:55.620 --> 0:49:58.009 I've never thought about that. That is so fascinating to 0:49:58.050 --> 0:50:01.010 me that like they all, how did they all know? 0:50:01.930 --> 0:50:03.450 They all must have really seen the wood from the trees. 0:50:03.469 --> 0:50:05.410 I mean, I guess testament to a good director. 0:50:05.530 --> 0:50:05.750 Yeah. 0:50:05.830 --> 0:50:07.970 He's like, no, no, no, this is going to be mega. 0:50:09.170 --> 0:50:13.990 Scream. This is a fat boy slim song. Yeah. Like, Can, can, can. 0:50:14.070 --> 0:50:17.710 It's the can, can, but it's like a 90s remake. 0:50:17.770 --> 0:50:19.009 It's like so crazy. 0:50:19.030 --> 0:50:21.009 Yeah, and then he does it, and then his, because 0:50:21.030 --> 0:50:25.030 you can, can, can! Becomes iconic. 0:50:25.310 --> 0:50:25.790 So good. 0:50:26.250 --> 0:50:28.549 So fucking good. Wait, I would say, is the new 0:50:28.590 --> 0:50:30.360 music a little Fatboy Slim coded? 0:50:30.380 --> 0:50:31.239 A little bit, yeah. 0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:35.640 I was saying Marcy Playground, like late 90s, like grunge pop. 0:50:36.300 --> 0:50:39.010 There's moments of that for sure, yeah. I mean, it's like, I... 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.660 I do feel like this album, I wanted it to 0:50:42.700 --> 0:50:45.180 feel a little like, first of all, chaotic because I 0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.719 think my life feels a little bit chaotic. And, and, um, 0:50:49.340 --> 0:50:51.540 so yeah, I wanted it to have layers, but then 0:50:51.700 --> 0:50:53.859 also I do feel like this is the most like 0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:59.589 potent distillation of the references, musical references that have made 0:50:59.620 --> 0:51:02.930 me the person that I am. There's like, all of 0:51:02.989 --> 0:51:05.370 it is in there for me. And maybe, who knows? 0:51:05.430 --> 0:51:07.509 It might be honestly like, maybe people are going to 0:51:07.530 --> 0:51:09.029 be like, I don't, what is this kind of thing? 0:51:09.460 --> 0:51:14.859 But I can listen through and, like, identify, honestly, like, 0:51:14.900 --> 0:51:17.969 moments in my life where I'm like, this sweetness of 0:51:18.030 --> 0:51:20.710 this melody reminds me of the first time that I heard, like, 0:51:20.750 --> 0:51:22.930 Together Again by Janet Jackson. You know what I mean? 0:51:23.270 --> 0:51:27.420 That's really, really, really. So, yes. It's, like, it's all 0:51:27.460 --> 0:51:27.700 in there. 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:34.259 Like, I think you've been able to really... not bypass, 0:51:34.300 --> 0:51:35.990 but it's like, you don't, you've never had to do 0:51:36.030 --> 0:51:38.710 the thing that pop stars do, which is that we're 0:51:38.770 --> 0:51:40.969 requiring them to do now in a way where it's like. 0:51:41.870 --> 0:51:43.570 What's the authentic you. 0:51:44.350 --> 0:51:46.730 It's like, you've, you've kind of been that the whole 0:51:46.810 --> 0:51:49.790 time so that you've, I don't think you've ever had 0:51:49.830 --> 0:51:52.530 to earn this album, which is, these are the references 0:51:52.570 --> 0:51:54.020 that truly define me. 0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:54.560 Totally. 0:51:54.580 --> 0:51:55.840 Does that make sense? Yeah. 0:51:56.239 --> 0:52:03.950 I think in a way it's like a relief because, um, Yeah, 0:52:03.989 --> 0:52:06.530 I'm just kind of going to keep doing that exact thing. 0:52:06.660 --> 0:52:13.359 I think the whole Kia Asylum thing doesn't really get 0:52:13.580 --> 0:52:16.399 said about boys that much. I don't think, right? 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.800 Because there aren't that many of them. 0:52:18.989 --> 0:52:26.410 I think it's sort of like a spectrum of how 0:52:26.570 --> 0:52:30.800 much people nitpick at you. And I think that pop 0:52:30.820 --> 0:52:32.339 girls have it really bad. 0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:32.440 Yeah. 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:38.260 I think that it's like insane. Um, then like the 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:42.300 straight boys, they might like talk shit about you online, 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:46.130 but either the straight boys just don't care, which is 0:52:46.489 --> 0:52:50.710 hilarious and kind of amazing, honestly. Um, or they, or 0:52:51.150 --> 0:52:53.240 they don't get it as, as bad. You know, like 0:52:53.300 --> 0:52:56.020 I do think that like straight boys can get away 0:52:56.280 --> 0:53:01.360 with releasing stuff that like, if a queer artist or 0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.319 a female artist released it, I just think that they 0:53:04.340 --> 0:53:09.200 would get kind of like ripped to shreds. Um, and so, yeah, I, 0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:12.140 I think that for queer artists, it's like, or for, 0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:15.700 I guess, gay guy artists, there's, uh, it's, it's a 0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.700 weird like middle ground almost between the two where it's like, 0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.759 no one is expecting me to, you know, they're not 0:53:21.780 --> 0:53:23.560 holding me to the standards. I don't think of like 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.920 a pop girl where it's like, I mean, I do, 0:53:26.140 --> 0:53:27.760 I was going to say something about like my body. 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:31.890 I do get that a lot. Um, I don't know. 0:53:32.210 --> 0:53:34.569 I think maybe the, the like reinvention of it all 0:53:34.590 --> 0:53:37.590 is not necessarily expected from like male artists. Like I 0:53:37.610 --> 0:53:40.720 think that male artists can kind of release the same 0:53:40.820 --> 0:53:43.600 album a bunch of times and like, no one seems 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:47.690 to be too fast. Like it'll do well. Um, Whereas 0:53:47.870 --> 0:53:50.650 I think female artists, there's this insane expectation to reinvent 0:53:50.830 --> 0:53:51.190 all the time. 0:53:51.370 --> 0:53:55.489 There's like a risk assessment that's like different depending on 0:53:55.570 --> 0:54:00.120 who the artist is. Certainly along like gendered lines, but 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:01.980 I'm saying, I'm not, I'm even like removing the gender 0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:03.060 of it, but like, I mean, it's good that you're 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:03.899 acknowledging that, but. 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:04.500 I feel like. 0:54:06.300 --> 0:54:10.800 You've never had to like, you've given people what they've wanted. 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:13.180 And I feel like people have been very satisfied and 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:14.520 like thankful for that. 0:54:14.820 --> 0:54:15.239 But you're right. 0:54:15.300 --> 0:54:17.930 Like I think, the expectation for like a female artist 0:54:18.930 --> 0:54:22.359 is to like have them reinvent and therefore do something risky. 0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:25.700 And if it fails, then it's like off to the 0:54:25.739 --> 0:54:26.439 asylum you go. 0:54:26.460 --> 0:54:27.080 Right. 0:54:27.300 --> 0:54:28.580 And like, that's crazy. 0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.500 Also another thing that for me personally, just the way 0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:32.899 that I feel about it is like, I have never 0:54:32.940 --> 0:54:35.380 had a, like, I think the only song that I've 0:54:35.420 --> 0:54:40.060 ever really had chart even close to like, I don't know. 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:41.920 I think it was maybe number 15 or something like 0:54:41.940 --> 0:54:46.910 that was youth. My first album. Yes. And, I love 0:54:46.950 --> 0:54:48.720 my life and you know what I mean? So like, I, 0:54:48.930 --> 0:54:52.730 I don't, my metric of kind of like what I'm 0:54:52.790 --> 0:54:56.569 trying to do, I is not really informed by that. 0:54:56.610 --> 0:55:01.120 So I'm yeah. I, maybe I don't feel it as 0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:03.660 much because I'm not like, I honest to God could 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.440 not tell you what, like my first week sales, I 0:55:06.460 --> 0:55:08.970 couldn't tell you anyone's. I don't, I like, I've just 0:55:09.010 --> 0:55:11.910 never really been like numbers minded when it comes to 0:55:12.190 --> 0:55:17.250 music stuff. Um, So that's also maybe a thing where 0:55:17.270 --> 0:55:19.089 I'm like, I feel okay about it no matter what. 0:55:19.290 --> 0:55:21.930 I think to me, the heartbreaking thing, like rather than 0:55:21.950 --> 0:55:26.950 it only sold however many thousand or whatever would be 0:55:27.530 --> 0:55:32.070 if it went by without any sort of like cultural impact. Exactly. 0:55:32.090 --> 0:55:34.350 That would be the heartbreaking, I would be devastated. Like, 0:55:34.370 --> 0:55:36.680 what am I doing this for? If not to kind 0:55:36.700 --> 0:55:39.140 of like, at least just give, you know, cause I 0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:42.060 think back to those moments of like, first time I 0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:43.640 watched Moulin Rouge or the first time I saw like, 0:55:44.070 --> 0:55:45.989 the dirty video by Christina Aguilera or whatever. You know 0:55:46.010 --> 0:55:49.450 what I mean? Like those things, those sort of moments, 0:55:50.969 --> 0:55:52.910 I'm obsessed with the idea of being able to try 0:55:53.330 --> 0:55:55.970 and give that to people, you know, where like they 0:55:56.070 --> 0:56:00.890 remember the sweat tour forever or, you know, like whatever, 0:56:01.450 --> 0:56:03.840 the one of your girls video or something like that. I, 0:56:03.989 --> 0:56:06.290 and so, yeah, for me, I would be devastated if, 0:56:06.650 --> 0:56:09.810 if the thing came and went and no one like 0:56:09.950 --> 0:56:12.410 batted an eye or knew about it or anything like that, 0:56:12.730 --> 0:56:13.710 that would be a failure. 0:56:15.260 --> 0:56:15.900 Of course. 0:56:15.980 --> 0:56:17.839 I don't think you have to worry about that because 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:21.450 I feel like the cultural impact is like an emotional 0:56:21.469 --> 0:56:24.029 impact on an individual level. And like, I think individually, 0:56:24.050 --> 0:56:27.129 like there's so many people who watched one of your girls, 0:56:27.170 --> 0:56:30.310 let's say, and they're like, holy fuck, like I'll never 0:56:30.410 --> 0:56:31.390 forget that. 0:56:31.750 --> 0:56:34.529 You know? I think it's more just like the idea 0:56:34.670 --> 0:56:37.969 that people expect they come to. I feel like when, 0:56:38.010 --> 0:56:40.610 when like a new album comes out or like someone 0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:42.930 introduces a new era and it almost feels like the 0:56:43.010 --> 0:56:46.160 audience expectation is that they're going to get it and 0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:50.580 enjoy it right away and have a language about what 0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:54.100 it was and how it was contextualized, et cetera. So 0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.680 that's like a weird daunting thing that happens now, which 0:56:56.800 --> 0:57:00.969 is like an era comes out and because the, um, 0:57:01.390 --> 0:57:04.649 we're not talking that much about album sales because that's 0:57:04.670 --> 0:57:07.570 all traditionally broken down in the way that it was. 0:57:07.630 --> 0:57:10.960 And like, no one really knows how to talk about like, 0:57:11.870 --> 0:57:15.620 success in the many different ways you can metrically talk 0:57:15.660 --> 0:57:18.060 about it. You can talk about like whether or not 0:57:18.100 --> 0:57:23.600 it's being felt and people, I think conflate that with like, 0:57:24.500 --> 0:57:26.860 and I get it too. You know what I mean? 0:57:26.900 --> 0:57:29.640 It's like, it's like with any of the recent albums 0:57:29.660 --> 0:57:31.860 that have come out, it's like, it almost feels like 0:57:31.900 --> 0:57:34.490 it landed weird if people don't know how to talk 0:57:34.530 --> 0:57:36.410 about it immediately. 0:57:36.430 --> 0:57:40.650 You know, I, I'm really excited about like, I think 0:57:40.710 --> 0:57:43.530 that's part of the fun, honestly, is like being able 0:57:43.590 --> 0:57:47.230 to try and imagine, because also this album is very, 0:57:47.530 --> 0:57:51.310 like I said, it's sort of chaotic. It's like basically, hmm. 0:57:51.530 --> 0:57:52.350 It's eclectic. 0:57:52.650 --> 0:57:57.450 It's eclectic for sure. And I think that I am 0:57:57.550 --> 0:58:01.490 very excited to give them one thing and then know, 0:58:02.150 --> 0:58:04.290 I know what's coming next. You know what I mean? 0:58:04.690 --> 0:58:08.050 And so I think like trying to kind of imagine 0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:11.310 how might this land for people, Well, also then having 0:58:11.330 --> 0:58:15.190 the sort of like confidence to be like, first of all, 0:58:15.210 --> 0:58:15.830 I have to love it. 0:58:16.030 --> 0:58:16.530 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:58:16.550 --> 0:58:20.690 Otherwise, like, no way, Jose. Nobody Jose. What? 0:58:20.930 --> 0:58:21.590 Nobody Jose. 0:58:21.710 --> 0:58:23.830 Nobody Jose. Sure. 0:58:24.570 --> 0:58:25.330 That's what you said. 0:58:25.550 --> 0:58:25.790 Yes. 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:30.480 Nobody Jose. Correctamundo. 0:58:30.780 --> 0:58:34.060 Yeah, so I have to absolutely love it. And then also, 0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:38.180 I'm excited to, you know, my last album, my goal 0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:41.150 was like, perfect pop. You know what I mean? I'm 0:58:41.170 --> 0:58:46.180 a student of the school of Max Martin and Swedish people. 0:58:46.780 --> 0:58:50.940 And I'm like, I am fascinated by this perfect pop 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:53.920 song that like every, the second pre-chorus has a little 0:58:53.940 --> 0:58:55.440 bit more harmony than the, you know what I mean? 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:57.020 And it's like half length and whatever, all these little 0:58:57.060 --> 0:58:59.120 tricks and stuff like that you can do. So fun 0:58:59.140 --> 0:59:00.630 to do. And I will do that probably for the 0:59:00.650 --> 0:59:03.490 rest of my life. But then like a natural pendulum swing, 0:59:03.610 --> 0:59:05.230 I was like, I want to make something that just 0:59:05.310 --> 0:59:09.610 feels very, very, very like expressive. And so I made 0:59:09.630 --> 0:59:11.540 a lot of the album with my little brother I 0:59:11.860 --> 0:59:14.700 made a lot of the album at home and I'm 0:59:14.740 --> 0:59:19.840 kind of like excited to yeah I'm just sort of 0:59:19.860 --> 0:59:23.020 excited to see how I think for me personally this 0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:27.050 one is going to age well to me personally like 0:59:27.370 --> 0:59:29.510 I think I'm going to look back on it in 0:59:29.570 --> 0:59:31.960 like 50 years and be able to play a couple 0:59:31.980 --> 0:59:34.500 of the songs or all of the songs and be like, wow, 0:59:34.700 --> 0:59:38.220 I'm really proud of like 31 year old Troy for 0:59:38.280 --> 0:59:39.000 doing that. You know? 0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:41.220 I feel like all of your albums have aged well. 0:59:41.620 --> 0:59:46.660 Thank you. They, they feel like, um, it's so corny 0:59:46.700 --> 0:59:49.010 cause it's like, everyone says this, but it really does 0:59:49.030 --> 0:59:50.590 feel like opening a journal from when you were like 0:59:50.590 --> 0:59:52.850 50 or something like that. You think that you're not 0:59:52.870 --> 0:59:54.850 that different and then you go back and you like 0:59:54.910 --> 0:59:57.090 read something you wrote or you whatever. And you're like, 0:59:57.410 --> 1:00:00.620 Oh my God, this is like, Slightly mortifying, but also 1:00:00.700 --> 1:00:01.280 very sweet. 1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:02.400 Yeah. And very true. 1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:03.300 Very true. 1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:03.640 Yeah. 1:00:03.660 --> 1:00:06.780 It was like, I had a sinus surgery to, cause 1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:10.780 I had like a terrible deviated septum and I can 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:13.220 hear in my career pre and post. 1:00:13.540 --> 1:00:14.340 Where the septum was. 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:18.610 Where the septum was. Because I was so stuffy. Like 1:00:18.620 --> 1:00:23.210 there's songs on Blue Neighborhood where I am just completely blocked. 1:00:23.310 --> 1:00:24.130 Interesting. 1:00:24.310 --> 1:00:26.030 And thankfully that doesn't happen anymore. 1:00:26.230 --> 1:00:26.530 Yeah. 1:00:26.550 --> 1:00:27.090 Uh huh. 1:00:27.510 --> 1:00:27.810 Uh huh. 1:00:28.130 --> 1:00:28.270 Yeah. 1:00:28.310 --> 1:00:31.930 I guess like you're, Like, your, like, belt on Blue, 1:00:32.110 --> 1:00:38.380 or not your belt, but, like, your placement on Blue Neighborhood, it's, like, younger, 1:00:38.530 --> 1:00:42.580 but it's, like, more, it's brighter, and yet it's more, like, there's, like, 1:00:42.620 --> 1:00:44.000 a dome over it or something. 1:00:44.080 --> 1:00:45.060 Totally. You know what I mean? 1:00:45.100 --> 1:00:45.340 Yes. 1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:47.780 That's interesting. I think you're going to listen to this 1:00:47.860 --> 1:00:51.780 album in 50 years, and you're going to say one word. Correctamundo. Correctamundo. 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:52.580 Correctamundo. 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:54.420 Volume, what is it? Volume.. 1:00:55.060 --> 1:00:55.700 Volume loss. 1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:56.320 Volume loss. 1:00:57.540 --> 1:00:59.540 I hope you don't honestly I know it's. 1:00:59.460 --> 1:01:01.580 Too late volume loss please listen. 1:01:01.260 --> 1:01:05.610 To this podcast listen to no Troy no Tro no 1:01:06.220 --> 1:01:09.310 Tro okay so here's when we reveal there's been two 1:01:09.350 --> 1:01:11.410 games we were playing on this episode with you and you. 1:01:11.390 --> 1:01:12.590 One of them you know about one of them you 1:01:12.610 --> 1:01:14.770 don't one of them Bowen revealed which is he was 1:01:14.810 --> 1:01:15.470 gonna call you. 1:01:15.430 --> 1:01:17.750 Tro Tro right which I loved. 1:01:17.770 --> 1:01:19.330 Yeah you loved that what about what about this one 1:01:19.350 --> 1:01:21.870 what do you think what do you think was the 1:01:21.890 --> 1:01:24.710 second the second unusual thing the game you've been. 1:01:24.630 --> 1:01:28.240 Saying correctamundo a lot I just thought, I was like, 1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:29.650 that was weird. 1:01:29.690 --> 1:01:31.530 So you did think it was weird and there was 1:01:31.610 --> 1:01:34.310 no world in which you thought like, I guess Correctamundo 1:01:34.330 --> 1:01:35.660 was back and I didn't know. 1:01:35.740 --> 1:01:38.600 No, no. So my honest, my honest deep fear was, 1:01:38.780 --> 1:01:41.010 I was like, you know, I, I listened to the pod. 1:01:41.830 --> 1:01:42.370 I'm a reader. 1:01:42.490 --> 1:01:42.729 Yeah. 1:01:42.830 --> 1:01:45.330 But I'm not like a religious reader. No offense. Sorry, guys. 1:01:45.390 --> 1:01:46.590 No problem. I'm a busy boy. 1:01:46.630 --> 1:01:48.350 Some of our episodes are fucking flop as fuck. They're 1:01:48.390 --> 1:01:49.030 pretty bad. 1:01:49.070 --> 1:01:50.870 And so, no, I just assumed that this was something, 1:01:51.090 --> 1:01:53.610 maybe one of the more recent episodes that I hadn't caught. No. 1:01:53.670 --> 1:01:54.230 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:01:54.250 --> 1:01:55.190 You must be like, oh, God. 1:01:55.210 --> 1:01:56.380 That's why I wasn't going to bring it up. 1:01:57.140 --> 1:01:59.170 I think, I think this is, oh, oh, my God. 1:01:59.180 --> 1:02:00.130 And there's one more thing that we have to do, 1:02:00.140 --> 1:02:01.580 but it's not a secret, but it's a thing that 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:02.460 you're going to contribute to. 1:02:02.580 --> 1:02:02.880 Oh, yes. 1:02:03.140 --> 1:02:05.900 But I think in this, this set is really inspiring 1:02:05.960 --> 1:02:08.040 us creatively. And like, we want to do like, I 1:02:08.060 --> 1:02:09.740 think we're going to, we're going to do like games 1:02:09.780 --> 1:02:12.410 for all of our guests. And I think this is 1:02:12.450 --> 1:02:15.070 a great, and you are really so easygoing. 1:02:15.090 --> 1:02:15.670 Thank you. 1:02:15.710 --> 1:02:17.810 And you're really rolling with this in such a nice way. 1:02:17.830 --> 1:02:19.770 This is the new thing. Any other thing else on 1:02:19.790 --> 1:02:20.740 Correctamundo that you want to talk about? 1:02:20.780 --> 1:02:24.080 I was just thinking, I was getting excited about another thing, 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.100 which is we should figure out a way to use 1:02:26.160 --> 1:02:28.580 the phone. There's a phone over there. 1:02:28.740 --> 1:02:29.080 Wow. 1:02:29.100 --> 1:02:33.120 There's just so many things in stimulus now that are 1:02:33.160 --> 1:02:35.540 in the room that we're sort of getting excited. But 1:02:35.580 --> 1:02:38.620 that's a separate topic. This is what Bowen is talking about. 1:02:38.660 --> 1:02:42.210 We want to establish... The queer handshake. 1:02:42.750 --> 1:02:43.680 The queer handshake? 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:47.700 Yeah. So we have created the first two steps of it. 1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:48.500 And we want you to add the next one. And 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:50.600 we want you to help create the third step. Perfect. 1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:54.540 And maybe by the end of time, we will have 1:02:54.560 --> 1:02:56.520 the whole thing. The whole handshake. And we'll all do 1:02:56.540 --> 1:02:57.860 it together. And it's like, if you know, you know. 1:02:57.880 --> 1:02:59.180 If you see someone on the street. If like. 1:02:59.470 --> 1:02:59.709 Yeah. 1:02:59.830 --> 1:03:01.669 Cause like, I think it's just going to get longer 1:03:01.790 --> 1:03:02.590 and longer. 1:03:02.610 --> 1:03:03.430 We'll call it. 1:03:03.650 --> 1:03:06.050 And are you only inviting queer people to do it or? Yes. 1:03:06.510 --> 1:03:09.190 Wow. Well, so you're on the podcast this week and 1:03:09.210 --> 1:03:11.150 then next week is Spike and Honey. Spike and Honey. 1:03:11.170 --> 1:03:13.490 And they're, they're very queer. And then the week after 1:03:13.530 --> 1:03:15.450 that is Carly Rae Jepsen. And I do think we 1:03:15.470 --> 1:03:17.990 should allow her to contribute. She can do it. Like 1:03:18.070 --> 1:03:21.800 Carly Rae Jepsen. I think she's earned that. She's going 1:03:21.820 --> 1:03:22.939 to come out on the pod. 1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:23.260 Yeah. 1:03:23.500 --> 1:03:23.680 Yeah. 1:03:24.100 --> 1:03:27.020 I think she's going to be like, surrender my heart. 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:28.280 One of my favorite songs. 1:03:29.690 --> 1:03:31.130 I'm sorry, I just thought about Emotion. 1:03:32.370 --> 1:03:34.520 The best album of all time. What's your favorite track 1:03:34.560 --> 1:03:35.120 on Emotion? 1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:40.260 It's the one... Dev Hines did it. 1:03:40.380 --> 1:03:41.180 All That? 1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:44.380 Is that what it's called? 1:03:44.400 --> 1:03:49.870 All That. So good. I also love When I Needed You. 1:03:50.110 --> 1:03:50.910 When I Needed You. 1:03:51.510 --> 1:03:51.690 Yeah. 1:03:52.190 --> 1:03:52.840 Which I think.. 1:03:53.770 --> 1:03:54.870 Is Runaway with me on Emotion? 1:03:54.950 --> 1:03:56.930 Yes. Opening track. Opening track. 1:03:57.390 --> 1:03:59.350 My different Noonie wrote that song and it's like, I'm 1:03:59.430 --> 1:04:01.510 still starstruck by her. 1:04:01.710 --> 1:04:03.630 Of course. That's one of the best pop songs of 1:04:03.710 --> 1:04:04.090 all time. 1:04:04.110 --> 1:04:04.370 Truly. 1:04:04.390 --> 1:04:07.090 Wait, what are you looking up? I'm looking up what 1:04:07.150 --> 1:04:11.280 my actual favorite is on. Um, first of all, you 1:04:11.300 --> 1:04:18.730 want to come me everywhere. Jizzing anywhere. Um, not faking it, 1:04:18.740 --> 1:04:23.380 not faking it at all. No need. Okay. My favorite 1:04:23.440 --> 1:04:27.280 song on this album, I think is your type. yeah 1:04:27.940 --> 1:04:29.240 i'm not the type. 1:04:29.140 --> 1:04:32.180 Of girl for you i'm not going. 1:04:31.810 --> 1:04:34.410 To pretend just the way the words in which. 1:04:34.330 --> 1:04:37.610 She puts emphasis yeah i'm like i'll make time for 1:04:37.630 --> 1:04:38.910 you wailing. 1:04:38.490 --> 1:04:41.830 That that voice cuts. 1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:44.400 Through that is a radio ready that's radio ready yes 1:04:44.480 --> 1:04:46.520 i mean call me maybe okay this is this is 1:04:46.560 --> 1:04:48.220 this is what we have so far so simple okay. 1:04:52.720 --> 1:04:54.300 That's all we have so far. So it's sort of 1:04:54.340 --> 1:04:57.720 like a grip? And then it's burned like it's hot. 1:04:57.780 --> 1:05:00.830 And then you have choices. You can either reunite or 1:05:00.870 --> 1:05:03.050 you can do whatever you want. 1:05:03.090 --> 1:05:05.200 My first thought was like a.. 1:05:05.550 --> 1:05:06.610 So you guys do it. 1:05:07.890 --> 1:05:08.530 Is it inhale? 1:05:09.130 --> 1:05:09.430 Whatever. 1:05:09.510 --> 1:05:09.930 Oh, yeah, sure. 1:05:09.950 --> 1:05:13.030 We both did it, so yeah. And then I kind 1:05:13.070 --> 1:05:15.340 of want like a... Yeah, okay, great. That's great. 1:05:15.360 --> 1:05:15.600 Love it. 1:05:15.660 --> 1:05:19.400 Okay. You guys do it. 1:05:19.660 --> 1:05:20.160 Ready? 1:05:20.220 --> 1:05:26.800 Ready? Yes! I mean, we could end it right there 1:05:26.820 --> 1:05:28.940 if we want. I think for now it's ended. And 1:05:28.980 --> 1:05:30.820 then we can see. If we're moved to do it. 1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:33.180 Let's just see what next week brings. You know what 1:05:33.220 --> 1:05:36.050 I mean? But in terms of where it's at right now, 1:05:36.070 --> 1:05:39.770 I feel really happy. I think the space is giving 1:05:39.830 --> 1:05:40.890 a lot of. 1:05:41.450 --> 1:05:44.190 Like there should be like queer handshakes. 1:05:44.190 --> 1:05:46.330 100%. I mean, there's nothing more petrifying in the world 1:05:46.350 --> 1:05:49.300 than like a straight man walking up to you. about 1:05:49.340 --> 1:05:51.020 to do something this. 1:05:50.640 --> 1:05:52.900 Is exactly what this is exactly what inspired me i 1:05:52.920 --> 1:05:55.800 was like why did we all get so terrified when 1:05:55.820 --> 1:05:56.380 that happens. 1:05:56.200 --> 1:05:58.720 The same as for me when a ball gets kicked 1:05:58.760 --> 1:06:00.760 over a fence right and i'm the one standing on 1:06:00.780 --> 1:06:03.520 the other side of the fence like oh yeah just. 1:06:03.340 --> 1:06:05.800 Terrifying just terrifying i know it's really scary a. 1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:07.820 Chill just ran up my spine i had a physical 1:06:07.900 --> 1:06:11.180 moment because i thought of when guys do that thing 1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:14.430 where they shake your hand and they pull oh you 1:06:14.890 --> 1:06:15.950 Has anyone ever done this to you? 1:06:16.250 --> 1:06:17.110 I think I'd get hard. 1:06:17.210 --> 1:06:19.670 No, I know. It's really... What would you say? 1:06:19.810 --> 1:06:22.050 I think I'd get hard. I would love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:06:23.110 --> 1:06:25.180 So you are on the husband line. Yeah, you're just 1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:27.490 looking for a man to grip it and rip it. 1:06:27.700 --> 1:06:31.980 Hey, if you're in New York or Melbourne and you 1:06:32.000 --> 1:06:33.920 run into Troy, make sure you pull it. 1:06:34.020 --> 1:06:38.340 Run into Tro, pull in. Run into Tro? Correctamundo, babe. Correctamundo. 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:41.560 Correctamundo's tough. 1:06:41.580 --> 1:06:44.120 Do you like Correctamundo? Yeah. 1:06:45.390 --> 1:06:48.300 I think it was good for this episode. I don't 1:06:48.320 --> 1:06:49.820 know that it needs to be like a thing forever. 1:06:50.200 --> 1:06:52.300 You really did bail on the bit with Tro. You 1:06:52.320 --> 1:06:54.760 told him right away. Cause you would have been like, 1:06:54.780 --> 1:06:58.530 I would have, I just would have loved it. Really? 1:06:58.550 --> 1:06:59.570 I absolutely love it. 1:06:59.990 --> 1:07:01.390 At first you were like, I don't know. 1:07:02.050 --> 1:07:03.490 I've never been called that before. 1:07:03.570 --> 1:07:06.830 So I loved the, the name Troy is incredible. 1:07:07.190 --> 1:07:07.530 Thank you. 1:07:08.030 --> 1:07:09.070 You've never wavered on that. 1:07:09.860 --> 1:07:12.120 No, but Savannah's not my last name. Right. It's my 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:12.520 middle name. 1:07:13.400 --> 1:07:16.970 But, but, And Savannah's gorgeous. But Troy as a first name, 1:07:17.550 --> 1:07:18.510 something you're hearing all the time. 1:07:18.590 --> 1:07:21.140 I've also met your cool parents because they came to 1:07:21.180 --> 1:07:22.420 my Christmas show in LA. 1:07:22.860 --> 1:07:23.120 Right. 1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:25.380 And I met them after. Troy was like, I brought 1:07:25.420 --> 1:07:28.360 my parents. And I was like, hey. So cool. Yeah, 1:07:28.380 --> 1:07:28.960 they are cool. 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:32.160 Yeah, they're amazing. They come to a lot of things 1:07:32.200 --> 1:07:32.480 with me. 1:07:32.940 --> 1:07:33.940 Do they come to America a lot? 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:35.760 They do, yeah. 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:37.340 Before we do, I don't think so, honey. We were 1:07:37.420 --> 1:07:40.120 told that we would be watching something. 1:07:40.400 --> 1:07:44.540 Oh, right. Oh, here we go. Dan, is that it? Oh, 1:07:44.740 --> 1:07:47.960 I am really excited. Okay, so how is this going 1:07:47.980 --> 1:07:49.990 to be a moment where we... Oh, do you have 1:07:50.010 --> 1:07:56.250 the capabilities? I can't believe sometimes how... You guys stay ready, 1:07:56.310 --> 1:07:58.410 so you don't have to get ready. This is an 1:07:58.450 --> 1:07:59.870 unreleased song. We've heard it. 1:08:00.250 --> 1:08:00.930 You have heard it. 1:08:00.930 --> 1:08:02.270 Can we say the name of the track or no? 1:08:02.570 --> 1:08:03.490 No. 1:08:03.510 --> 1:08:04.080 Let's not risk it. 1:08:04.360 --> 1:08:09.030 No, but I just was... I'm very, very, very excited.. 1:08:11.250 --> 1:08:13.650 Anything you want to preface for us before we hit play? 1:08:13.670 --> 1:08:16.350 I'm obsessed with, I have not stopped thinking about this song. 1:08:16.450 --> 1:08:20.110 Really? For the readers at home, I am playing them 1:08:20.430 --> 1:08:22.790 the second single from my album, She's the Best. 1:08:23.150 --> 1:08:27.680 And this is going to be played everywhere. 1:08:28.020 --> 1:08:31.120 The music video, I'm just so proud of it and 1:08:31.160 --> 1:08:33.070 so excited about it. But I was like, I kind 1:08:33.090 --> 1:08:33.870 of just want to show them. 1:08:33.890 --> 1:08:36.110 Oh, my God. Thank you. So this is when I 1:08:36.130 --> 1:08:38.730 have to say, Terry O'Connor, you do have to come 1:08:38.770 --> 1:08:41.269 in here and make a cameo to open up the laptop. 1:08:41.380 --> 1:08:43.939 And Terry's going to come make a short cameo to 1:08:44.020 --> 1:08:44.620 open this up. 1:08:44.820 --> 1:08:47.000 Culture Digest's Terrence O'Connor. 1:08:47.020 --> 1:08:50.660 You know him, you love him. On the husband hunt 1:08:50.700 --> 1:08:54.510 as well. On the husband hunt as well. Terrence and 1:08:54.530 --> 1:08:59.950 Culture Digest. Yes, come. No, it's not. We need Touch ID, Pat. 1:09:00.720 --> 1:09:03.540 You gotta put your finger on it honey there you go. 1:09:03.780 --> 1:09:06.620 This is a great moment wave to the camera. 1:09:06.400 --> 1:09:08.760 Okay alright hey everybody there he is there he is 1:09:08.880 --> 1:09:12.440 okay we're gonna press play ready pressing play I wanna 1:09:12.460 --> 1:09:16.000 do brightness yeah yeah yeah okay get away from me 1:09:16.040 --> 1:09:18.440 Mike oh my god can I go around the back 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:20.070 yeah come come come Yeah, come around. 1:09:20.110 --> 1:09:20.590 Sit, sit, sit. 1:09:20.910 --> 1:09:21.189 Sit. 1:09:21.370 --> 1:09:21.670 Oh, okay. 1:09:22.689 --> 1:09:24.349 Oh, my God. This is already stunning. 1:09:25.310 --> 1:09:25.870 Oh, my God. 1:09:26.490 --> 1:09:27.150 Oh, come on. 1:09:27.210 --> 1:09:27.740 This is.. 1:09:28.830 --> 1:09:36.210 What? When... How did you do this? Oh! Oh. I'm 1:09:36.250 --> 1:09:44.040 really happy. This is huge. Yes! Oh. Really good. 1:09:44.439 --> 1:09:47.920 The location scouting must have been really fun. That's all 1:09:47.939 --> 1:09:48.460 I'm going to say. 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:56.240 Oh, my God. Oh. Wow. Oh, my God. That was amazing. Oh, 1:09:56.280 --> 1:09:59.360 my God. Wow. You know how to press. You look 1:09:59.380 --> 1:10:01.519 perfect in this setting. You know how to press with 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:07.170 the eye contact. Oh, my God. Tro. 1:10:07.290 --> 1:10:07.590 In it. 1:10:07.610 --> 1:10:14.210 Yes. That's going to be a huge fucking moment, bitch. 1:10:14.870 --> 1:10:15.370 Unbelievable. 1:10:15.410 --> 1:10:19.450 Oh, my God. Thank you. That was incredible. I am... 1:10:20.410 --> 1:10:22.570 I don't know how to like over hype that. I'm 1:10:22.610 --> 1:10:24.370 so sorry. I mean, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 1:10:24.729 --> 1:10:28.769 That is really fucking cool. You are galvanized. Like you 1:10:28.790 --> 1:10:30.550 have not, are you, um, okay. 1:10:30.570 --> 1:10:33.799 Without revealing too much, you're, you're like, you're in your 1:10:33.810 --> 1:10:35.840 dancing bag in that video. 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:39.060 You kind of were already, but it's like, it's like, 1:10:39.180 --> 1:10:42.140 this is like rush was amazing. 1:10:42.160 --> 1:10:43.760 And get me started with me. But like this, this 1:10:43.820 --> 1:10:45.600 is like, this is like a level up. 1:10:45.800 --> 1:10:49.280 Thank you. I think it's, it's so, it was so interesting. 1:10:49.320 --> 1:10:53.380 Cause I think, um, dancers like pick things up like that. 1:10:53.460 --> 1:10:56.380 And it's so crazy. And the first time I tried 1:10:56.420 --> 1:11:00.270 to dance was for rush. And I remember thinking like, it's, it's, I, 1:11:00.370 --> 1:11:03.269 these are neural pathways that I just don't have. Like 1:11:03.590 --> 1:11:06.610 it was so confusing. And now it feels a little 1:11:06.630 --> 1:11:08.770 bit easier where like, I feel like I can look 1:11:08.810 --> 1:11:12.400 at someone and be like, damn, their core is really 1:11:12.580 --> 1:11:15.300 tight right now while they are doing that. You know 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:17.519 what I mean? It's like, Kind of, you can understand 1:11:17.540 --> 1:11:20.280 what that would feel like. Whereas before, I had no idea. 1:11:20.300 --> 1:11:24.970 I just didn't... There was no correlation between seeing what 1:11:24.990 --> 1:11:27.349 someone was doing and knowing what it would feel like. 1:11:27.850 --> 1:11:31.950 Everything about that video is what they should be. 1:11:32.750 --> 1:11:37.140 You really gotta keep it going with all the acting stuff, too. 1:11:37.540 --> 1:11:41.240 Really? You have such presence. Thank you. It's really incredible. 1:11:42.220 --> 1:11:43.860 You're really fucking good on camera. 1:11:44.080 --> 1:11:44.500 Thank you. 1:11:45.260 --> 1:11:45.890 I just feel.. 1:11:46.540 --> 1:11:51.300 Like, I have friends who sleep, eat, breathe, acting. 1:11:51.320 --> 1:11:51.880 I totally get this. 1:11:52.020 --> 1:11:53.220 And I have never been like that. 1:11:53.520 --> 1:11:53.700 Yeah. 1:11:53.880 --> 1:11:54.380 You don't have to be. 1:11:54.420 --> 1:11:58.000 And I... Yeah, so it's just, like, it's not something 1:11:58.020 --> 1:11:59.780 that I, like, I'm dying for. 1:12:00.020 --> 1:12:06.360 I mean, I feel like it's that thing of because... 1:12:07.220 --> 1:12:11.200 you have so much to give. You should only give 1:12:12.080 --> 1:12:14.930 it to a project that's going to like actually, you know, 1:12:15.590 --> 1:12:18.370 I get what you're saying because there's a lot of 1:12:18.410 --> 1:12:21.750 people who it's like, yeah, because they are an actor 1:12:21.970 --> 1:12:24.059 and they're going to grind for that and they're going 1:12:24.070 --> 1:12:26.780 to want that. They should be given certain opportunities to 1:12:26.820 --> 1:12:27.939 do it. I feel like you're not going to be 1:12:27.979 --> 1:12:30.620 someone that's just going to take a part because like, 1:12:30.970 --> 1:12:33.670 you want to act because you know that there's like 1:12:33.689 --> 1:12:36.030 something that feeds your soul that you're able to do. 1:12:36.470 --> 1:12:38.229 And so if there's going to be an opportunity for 1:12:38.330 --> 1:12:41.150 someone whose soul is going to be fed by doing something, 1:12:41.170 --> 1:12:42.530 I totally get that. 1:12:42.570 --> 1:12:44.769 But, but I just know how I feel about music 1:12:44.990 --> 1:12:47.880 and I'm like, yeah, I am so obsessed with it. 1:12:48.380 --> 1:12:51.000 You don't have that same feeling towards, towards. 1:12:51.680 --> 1:12:53.640 I haven't, but maybe if the right project came along, 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:55.300 I would feel differently. Or maybe it's about, maybe I 1:12:55.300 --> 1:12:57.420 need to be a bit more involved like on the 1:12:57.460 --> 1:13:00.720 production side or something like that. Because I just find music, 1:13:01.370 --> 1:13:04.710 really stimulates like every part of my brain and then 1:13:04.790 --> 1:13:08.230 showing up and acting i just i don't know i 1:13:08.290 --> 1:13:10.870 enjoy it but it's like like i said i'm not like. 1:13:10.850 --> 1:13:13.229 There's so much bill my thing with at least uh 1:13:13.870 --> 1:13:16.030 for film and television or whatever it's like there's just 1:13:16.070 --> 1:13:17.639 so much and even with like theater it's like there's 1:13:17.650 --> 1:13:20.980 so much build-up to it you're not doing it really 1:13:21.060 --> 1:13:25.439 like it doesn't feel complete until it's like until it's done, 1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:27.320 if that makes sense, until like you're doing it in 1:13:27.340 --> 1:13:30.280 front of, you're presenting it. But with music, it's like, 1:13:30.390 --> 1:13:33.990 I'm sure you understand this. It's like the building of 1:13:34.030 --> 1:13:34.969 it is the thing. 1:13:35.110 --> 1:13:35.349 Yes. 1:13:35.430 --> 1:13:37.750 And then it's another special stage of it when it's 1:13:37.850 --> 1:13:40.790 being presented. It's like there's, I don't know, which is 1:13:40.830 --> 1:13:42.230 not to say that that's not true for acting, but 1:13:42.250 --> 1:13:44.220 it's like for you guys, it's like the fact that you're, 1:13:44.800 --> 1:13:47.160 if you're near music, if you're near music being made, 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:48.960 like with Matt's album, it's like, you're just going to 1:13:48.979 --> 1:13:50.820 jump in there. There's no second thought about it. 1:13:50.840 --> 1:13:52.180 It's cool. Yeah. 1:13:52.700 --> 1:13:52.860 Yeah. 1:13:54.080 --> 1:13:54.340 Wow. 1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:58.340 I am shook. Honestly, it's like I wouldn't have placed 1:13:58.380 --> 1:14:01.760 it in that world. And now I'm like, that's the 1:14:01.800 --> 1:14:03.760 world in which it will live forever, which is such 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:09.700 an interesting experience to have. It's like, I don't know. Actually, 1:14:09.720 --> 1:14:12.179 I know exactly what I heard when I first heard 1:14:12.300 --> 1:14:14.360 the song, which we're not going to say what it is. 1:14:14.930 --> 1:14:18.590 But now that I have that visual context for it, 1:14:18.729 --> 1:14:22.490 it's just so exciting because you realize there's um, boundless 1:14:22.510 --> 1:14:24.729 opportunities for its visual context. 1:14:24.750 --> 1:14:24.820 Yes. 1:14:25.450 --> 1:14:28.100 Yes. Blank in the wherever you want, really. 1:14:28.110 --> 1:14:29.240 I know. 1:14:29.260 --> 1:14:31.960 I mean, it must be really confounding for everyone to 1:14:31.979 --> 1:14:33.920 like not know what we're talking about, but just like 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:37.179 trust that you will, there's no way you don't love it. 1:14:37.490 --> 1:14:39.620 That's all. You're going to want to take repeat rides. 1:14:39.640 --> 1:14:43.340 That's for sure. Um, well that was fucking incredible. Thank 1:14:43.360 --> 1:14:46.160 you for sharing that with us and stay tuned. Do 1:14:46.200 --> 1:14:48.840 you have any dates to share about things about the 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:49.460 album and stuff? 1:14:49.479 --> 1:14:50.800 You're asking me about my dating life again. 1:14:51.100 --> 1:14:53.519 No, I mean like in terms of like when, when 1:14:53.600 --> 1:14:55.400 we can expect this stuff. 1:14:55.420 --> 1:14:58.540 It's, you know what? I have no idea what will 1:14:58.580 --> 1:15:01.160 be known by the time this comes out. So all 1:15:01.180 --> 1:15:03.059 I'll say is it's a very quick rollout. 1:15:03.380 --> 1:15:03.680 Yeah. 1:15:04.080 --> 1:15:06.420 It's a very quick rollout. Is that good or bad? 1:15:06.820 --> 1:15:09.939 great for me yeah love love that absolutely love especially 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:11.460 i think because it is such a kind of like 1:15:12.400 --> 1:15:16.750 eclectic or uh you know i i think maybe people 1:15:17.930 --> 1:15:19.630 humbly i made it obviously i think this i think 1:15:19.650 --> 1:15:21.650 that the album is best experienced when listened top to 1:15:21.670 --> 1:15:23.470 bottom it's like a very it's a journey you know 1:15:23.490 --> 1:15:26.429 what i mean and so i think um that's also 1:15:26.550 --> 1:15:27.810 kind of why we wanted to do a quick rollout 1:15:27.850 --> 1:15:29.710 is i'm like i just want people to have the 1:15:29.729 --> 1:15:31.230 whole thing yeah yeah. 1:15:31.110 --> 1:15:37.870 That's very generous All right, time for I Don't Think 1:15:37.890 --> 1:15:38.210 So Honey. 1:15:38.630 --> 1:15:38.810 Yes. 1:15:39.070 --> 1:15:42.470 This is our 60-second segment where we sort of, you know, 1:15:43.140 --> 1:15:48.000 just we let loose on a topic that needs a reckoning. 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:51.150 And I have something. Fabulous. Yeah. 1:15:52.030 --> 1:15:54.130 This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey's Time 1:15:54.150 --> 1:15:54.470 Starts Now. 1:15:54.820 --> 1:15:58.060 Okay, so I don't think so, honey. Apparently on Disney +, 1:15:57.820 --> 1:16:00.780 there is something called The Descendants, which is about the 1:16:00.820 --> 1:16:05.730 descendants of like, it's like the children of like Lumiere 1:16:05.790 --> 1:16:09.430 and Mrs. Clock. What's her name, Mrs. Clock? Mrs. Potts. Mrs. Potts. 1:16:10.290 --> 1:16:11.830 I don't think so, honey. Cogsworth is the, oh yeah. 1:16:12.030 --> 1:16:14.110 I don't think so, honey, that I need to think 1:16:14.170 --> 1:16:18.660 about like how these things reproduced. Um, it's all about like, oh, 1:16:18.760 --> 1:16:20.560 like even though it's his son, is he going to 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:23.160 be a lot like his dad? It's like, I understand 1:16:23.200 --> 1:16:25.070 we're living in a world where like, oh yeah, this 1:16:25.150 --> 1:16:27.570 inanimate object is for, this is for children and it 1:16:27.610 --> 1:16:30.990 has a daughter. But I just feel like I can't 1:16:31.170 --> 1:16:33.189 stop thinking when you're talking about like, oh, are they 1:16:33.210 --> 1:16:35.340 going to be just like their mom? Why would they be? 1:16:35.420 --> 1:16:35.740 Oh, right. 1:16:35.780 --> 1:16:38.420 Because they had parents that fucked. And I don't want 1:16:38.439 --> 1:16:41.090 to think about like Mrs. Potts and Lumiere having sex. 1:16:41.729 --> 1:16:44.170 sex like i don't think it's worth having the show 1:16:44.710 --> 1:16:46.590 and i'm in a great place with disney right now 1:16:46.610 --> 1:16:49.430 we had an amazing time at the theme parks um 1:16:49.729 --> 1:16:52.070 but i just i personally don't think so honey that 1:16:52.150 --> 1:16:54.810 i need to think about like you know right after 1:16:54.890 --> 1:16:57.110 be my guest like she was like that was amazing 1:16:57.189 --> 1:16:59.729 baby and then they fucked and as a result like 1:17:00.189 --> 1:17:03.809 now we have a little child from the descendants. 1:17:03.270 --> 1:17:06.980 And that's one minute now i have so many questions 1:17:07.240 --> 1:17:13.050 same i guess didn't they all turn back to humans Right. 1:17:13.590 --> 1:17:19.710 So, Becca Ramos, in the series The Descendants on Disney +, 1:17:19.790 --> 1:17:23.490 can you just double check, are they little inanimate objects, 1:17:23.550 --> 1:17:26.080 household things? Or are they humans? 1:17:26.140 --> 1:17:29.520 Because they were people who were turned by that witch. 1:17:30.140 --> 1:17:31.939 I wouldn't want to watch a show about them if 1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:33.400 it was about the human version of them. 1:17:33.939 --> 1:17:37.140 I have no context for this whatsoever. I've got no 1:17:37.160 --> 1:17:38.000 idea what you're talking about. 1:17:38.020 --> 1:17:39.080 It says most of the main. 1:17:39.000 --> 1:17:44.560 Characters are human, though several possess... Magical or non-human heritage. 1:17:44.580 --> 1:17:47.160 So then they can turn into things. Sorry, what? They 1:17:47.200 --> 1:17:48.680 have non-human heritage? 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:51.400 I think it's live action on Disney +. It's like 1:17:51.500 --> 1:17:56.769 expanding the universe. Like the kids, the descendants of these characters. 1:17:56.790 --> 1:17:59.430 So it's like, you know, Mrs. Clock. Mrs. 1:17:59.470 --> 1:17:59.670 Potts. 1:17:59.689 --> 1:17:59.790 Yeah. 1:17:59.830 --> 1:18:00.570 It says, be the. 1:18:02.150 --> 1:18:04.500 Daughter of the evil queen, Jay, son of the bar. 1:18:05.320 --> 1:18:09.960 It's... it's descendants of a bunch of Disney characters oh 1:18:09.979 --> 1:18:13.120 yeah it's all and they're all for some reason human 1:18:13.140 --> 1:18:14.760 teenagers and the whole thing is like am I gonna 1:18:14.800 --> 1:18:16.880 be like my like fucked mom and dad who was 1:18:16.920 --> 1:18:19.170 a spoon and a clock or like am I gonna 1:18:19.229 --> 1:18:21.969 be like fucked like my mom's like my dad's scar 1:18:22.110 --> 1:18:22.809 you know what I mean. 1:18:22.970 --> 1:18:26.509 So is Jafar's son he's human or what. 1:18:26.790 --> 1:18:29.210 First of all Jafar having a son is crazy to 1:18:29.229 --> 1:18:31.059 me because he's about as gay as the day is 1:18:31.070 --> 1:18:33.780 long Sargassi What? Oh, surrogacy, yeah. 1:18:33.800 --> 1:18:34.000 Surrogacy. 1:18:34.100 --> 1:18:37.059 Okay, so Becca, can you check in the show, did 1:18:37.120 --> 1:18:39.460 Jafar have a son by surrogacy and that's why we 1:18:39.500 --> 1:18:41.679 can believe that he procreated? 1:18:43.310 --> 1:18:44.889 Never mind the fact that his son is human. 1:18:45.530 --> 1:18:46.350 He's human. 1:18:46.750 --> 1:18:47.950 He's human. Oh my God, you're right. 1:18:47.970 --> 1:18:50.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a genie. He can just become 1:18:50.600 --> 1:18:52.520 a snake. Jafar and who? It's going to be like, 1:18:52.800 --> 1:18:56.639 he had a girlfriend named Megan in college. Like Jafar 1:18:56.700 --> 1:18:59.990 and Megan haven't spoken, but Megan came to the, I guess, 1:19:00.070 --> 1:19:05.280 where did he live? Agrabah. Agrabah. Okay, it feels like 1:19:05.320 --> 1:19:08.309 this is an involved answer from Becca. And I know 1:19:08.360 --> 1:19:11.010 enough to know I still don't think so, honey. Got it. 1:19:11.150 --> 1:19:15.370 But especially after hearing that some of them have, in 1:19:15.410 --> 1:19:20.570 your words, non-human heritage. Like my heritage is half cupboard, 1:19:20.630 --> 1:19:22.210 half Italian. 1:19:22.630 --> 1:19:24.940 There is a child of Beauty and the Beast. 1:19:26.600 --> 1:19:29.510 Oh, Jesus Christ. Right. 1:19:29.850 --> 1:19:32.710 That's not a human heritage. But what we're forgetting is 1:19:32.750 --> 1:19:35.170 that they were all human at one point in Beauty 1:19:35.189 --> 1:19:35.730 and the Beast. 1:19:36.430 --> 1:19:41.150 Sure. I don't know. I just wanted to bring it up. Okay. Look, 1:19:41.210 --> 1:19:45.389 this is our podcast. I just wanted to bring it up. Yeah. Respect. 1:19:45.410 --> 1:19:48.100 Do you have anything to say on this topic? I'm ready. No. 1:19:49.140 --> 1:19:49.479 I'm ready. 1:19:49.500 --> 1:19:51.300 And mine also has to do with the work of 1:19:51.900 --> 1:19:52.939 Alan McKinnon and Howard Ashman. 1:19:53.100 --> 1:19:55.980 Oh, okay. Oh, great. This is Bowen Yang. I don't 1:19:56.000 --> 1:19:57.020 think so, honey. His time starts now. 1:19:57.120 --> 1:19:59.479 I don't think so, honey. The story of Little Shop 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:03.010 of Horrors. I did not understand and realize until we 1:20:03.030 --> 1:20:07.710 had seen it off Broadway this weekend that an amazing performance. 1:20:07.810 --> 1:20:08.160 Loved it. 1:20:08.210 --> 1:20:12.730 Run, Don't Walk, Eaton Slater, Claiborne Elder, Betsy Wolfe, incredible 1:20:12.750 --> 1:20:15.309 cast of Little Shop of Horrors. I, I've always. 1:20:15.130 --> 1:20:16.689 Been familiar with the music in all my life. 1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:19.740 Howard Ashman is one of our greatest lyricists, writers, composers, or, 1:20:19.860 --> 1:20:22.960 I'm sorry, lyricists and writers. 30 seconds. 1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:26.560 It's a sad ending. That's all I'll say. Yeah. Really, 1:20:26.720 --> 1:20:28.680 kind of Shakespearean. Well, yeah, I guess it's, it's like 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:31.460 a 30 year old story at this point. Much longer. 1:20:31.479 --> 1:20:32.979 Everybody dies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:20:32.979 --> 1:20:33.799 30 plus, 40. 1:20:33.800 --> 1:20:39.339 Yeah. Everyone dies. 15 seconds, yeah. It's kind of sad. 1:20:39.939 --> 1:20:42.140 And it's about the Faustian bargain of fame, which we're 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:47.120 all familiar with, aren't we? And I guess that portends 1:20:47.160 --> 1:20:47.640 doom for us. 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:48.200 Five seconds. 1:20:48.220 --> 1:20:51.000 We're all going to get eaten by the plant. And 1:20:51.020 --> 1:20:51.760 that's what fame is. 1:20:53.180 --> 1:20:55.759 That's one minute. I hadn't thought of Little Shop of 1:20:55.770 --> 1:20:58.120 Horrors as a Faustian bargain with fame today. 1:20:58.140 --> 1:21:00.580 Wow. Yeah, that didn't cross my desk either. 1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:03.520 Isn't that what it is? I think that what happens 1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:05.180 in Little... Are you familiar with Little Shop of Horrors? 1:21:05.200 --> 1:21:06.800 Once again, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. 1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:08.160 I think you would really like this show. 1:21:08.880 --> 1:21:09.300 Okay. 1:21:09.560 --> 1:21:09.820 Yeah. 1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:10.420 You know.. 1:21:11.100 --> 1:21:12.540 What? You don't like Madonna's Alive? 1:21:12.560 --> 1:21:13.490 I don't think it's like a musical gay. 1:21:13.820 --> 1:21:15.470 That's okay. You're not? Madonna's Alive. 1:21:15.650 --> 1:21:16.450 I didn't grow up with it. 1:21:16.750 --> 1:21:19.730 You hate Wicked? No. You loved it. I.. 1:21:20.110 --> 1:21:20.170 I.. 1:21:21.939 --> 1:21:24.750 Loved it, but I still would... I was like, I... 1:21:25.270 --> 1:21:27.650 This is not my culture. I don't know what's going on. 1:21:27.710 --> 1:21:29.570 What if someone was like, we're going to make a 1:21:29.590 --> 1:21:30.910 Troye Sivan musical? 1:21:31.850 --> 1:21:36.270 I would say that's a bad idea. Genuinely. No, and 1:21:36.310 --> 1:21:38.429 I love it. I love it. It's the same reason 1:21:38.450 --> 1:21:43.050 that I've never seen... Sometimes when things get so big 1:21:43.170 --> 1:21:45.850 and involved... I understand. There is a culture here that 1:21:45.890 --> 1:21:46.730 I'm not a part of. 1:21:46.750 --> 1:21:46.970 Sure. 1:21:47.490 --> 1:21:49.570 It is too late for me to start watching Game 1:21:49.610 --> 1:21:52.240 of Thrones. It is too late for me to... I 1:21:52.260 --> 1:21:53.880 don't know. You know what I mean? There's just things 1:21:53.900 --> 1:21:56.100 that I don't know about, and I'm kind of okay 1:21:56.140 --> 1:21:56.420 with that. 1:21:56.500 --> 1:21:58.860 As a lover of music, doesn't it appeal to you? 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:02.000 You don't have to know. It's a safe space. 1:22:04.960 --> 1:22:05.460 Let me do mine. 1:22:06.540 --> 1:22:08.019 Here's what I'll say to you before you do yours. 1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:10.260 Little Shop of Horrors would be a good one for 1:22:10.300 --> 1:22:12.620 you because it's dark and in a way kind of queer. 1:22:13.550 --> 1:22:19.490 Very queer. It's not something that if you watch, you 1:22:19.510 --> 1:22:22.570 wouldn't be like, because you don't love musicals already. You're 1:22:22.590 --> 1:22:25.060 not like comparing it to everything else, which I would 1:22:25.140 --> 1:22:27.900 think would help see it as like this, like weird 1:22:27.920 --> 1:22:31.720 alt kind of bizarre piece of art. Cause it is. 1:22:31.740 --> 1:22:35.000 I didn't grow up in a city with a lot 1:22:35.140 --> 1:22:35.980 of theater. 1:22:36.000 --> 1:22:36.780 You weren't exposed. 1:22:36.920 --> 1:22:39.840 And so my first exposure to theater was when, um, 1:22:40.780 --> 1:22:42.820 I did it for the first time when I was 1:22:42.850 --> 1:22:44.939 like 12 and I loved being a part of it. 1:22:44.970 --> 1:22:47.650 And I was like, wow, this is incredible. But even 1:22:47.670 --> 1:22:50.150 then I remember being like, people were talking about musicals 1:22:50.170 --> 1:22:51.490 that they loved and they had like listened to the 1:22:51.530 --> 1:22:53.210 soundtrack and stuff like that. And I was like, oh 1:22:53.229 --> 1:22:56.570 my God, I've totally missed this boat. And I just 1:22:56.670 --> 1:22:58.350 never really caught it. 1:22:58.710 --> 1:22:59.429 It is a culture. 1:22:59.450 --> 1:23:02.390 Yeah. Maybe it'll happen later in life for me. Yeah. 1:23:02.410 --> 1:23:03.750 Where I fall in love with it. 1:23:04.110 --> 1:23:05.930 Well, speaking of, I'm sorry I interrupted you. Speaking of 1:23:05.990 --> 1:23:08.380 catching it, it's like, it is, it reminds me of 1:23:08.410 --> 1:23:09.240 like Pokemon. 1:23:09.640 --> 1:23:09.860 Yeah. 1:23:09.939 --> 1:23:10.320 Where it's like. 1:23:10.970 --> 1:23:12.229 Well, have you seen this and this and this? Or 1:23:12.250 --> 1:23:13.490 it's like, I've collected this and this and this. 1:23:13.510 --> 1:23:13.729 Oh, right. 1:23:13.990 --> 1:23:14.910 I thought that was a musical name. 1:23:14.950 --> 1:23:17.330 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, have you seen this and this? 1:23:17.350 --> 1:23:18.889 I'm like, no, girl. I haven't seen any of it. 1:23:18.900 --> 1:23:20.340 You thought Pokemon was a musical game? 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:22.000 No, no, no. I thought you said, have you seen this, this, 1:23:22.040 --> 1:23:22.400 and this? 1:23:22.880 --> 1:23:27.400 This, this, and this. Yes. The musical. This, this, and this, 1:23:27.460 --> 1:23:29.589 the musical is a great title. 1:23:29.610 --> 1:23:30.350 Yeah, it actually is. 1:23:30.910 --> 1:23:33.070 Title of ep is Correctamundo of this episode. 1:23:33.920 --> 1:23:37.400 Correctamundo. Are you okay with that? There's also volume loss. 1:23:37.479 --> 1:23:40.340 Volume loss. There's a lot going on titles wise in 1:23:40.360 --> 1:23:41.840 the episode. I did want to say one thing, which 1:23:41.880 --> 1:23:45.180 is it's crazy that the big version of your Wolverine 1:23:45.240 --> 1:23:45.720 is Mr. 1:23:45.740 --> 1:23:47.339 Musical. I know. 1:23:47.979 --> 1:23:48.740 You know what I mean? 1:23:49.300 --> 1:23:50.660 I mean, Moulin Rouge is one of my favorite movies. 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:51.500 Exactly. 1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:54.719 It's not like an absolute no-go zone. I just need, 1:23:55.020 --> 1:23:57.880 I need maybe a, maybe I should add this to 1:23:57.900 --> 1:24:00.420 the criteria for my husband. Someone who is willing to 1:24:00.460 --> 1:24:04.309 handhold me and teach me about musicals. 1:24:04.590 --> 1:24:06.250 Okay, you ready to do your I Don't Think So Honey? 1:24:06.410 --> 1:24:07.090 Sure, I think so. 1:24:07.090 --> 1:24:09.370 All right, here we go. This is Troy Sivan's I 1:24:09.390 --> 1:24:10.889 Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. 1:24:11.990 --> 1:24:17.019 I Don't Think So Honey singing. I am not fishing 1:24:17.060 --> 1:24:20.940 for compliments. I'm not that good at it. And I'm 1:24:20.979 --> 1:24:23.740 okay with that. No. But I think sometimes I will 1:24:23.760 --> 1:24:26.700 be in the car and I'll sing. It's just me. 1:24:27.330 --> 1:24:31.520 And something so... diabolical will come out of my mouth, 1:24:31.540 --> 1:24:35.800 but I'm like, I truly scammed the world. And the 1:24:35.820 --> 1:24:39.960 fact that I have the same job as Beyonce is 1:24:40.420 --> 1:24:44.080 just an insane thought. But now I will say I 1:24:44.479 --> 1:24:48.200 care a lot about tone and storytelling. And so I do, 1:24:48.600 --> 1:24:52.460 I understand, I get it. The real magic though, is 1:24:52.500 --> 1:24:55.460 when somebody has tone storytelling and they can sing, sing 1:24:55.660 --> 1:24:59.520 like Ariana Grande, Whitney Houston, Sade. These are like, you know, technical. 1:24:59.939 --> 1:25:02.920 But I'm just saying the idea of me doing karaoke 1:25:03.240 --> 1:25:05.990 or like singing at any point where I don't absolutely 1:25:06.229 --> 1:25:08.970 have to, I will not do it. And it's not 1:25:09.010 --> 1:25:12.030 that fun. It's fun at my shows because I'm in control. 1:25:12.270 --> 1:25:15.230 But any other time, absolutely not. No, thank you. Doing 1:25:15.260 --> 1:25:18.860 TV performances, hell on earth. Hell on earth. The least 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:20.280 fun thing you can possibly do as a human being. 1:25:20.750 --> 1:25:22.520 I don't think so, honey, he says, and that's his 1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:25.420 one minute plus. And now it's time for Troye Sivan 1:25:25.439 --> 1:25:25.890 to sing. 1:25:26.550 --> 1:25:27.510 Oh my God. 1:25:27.530 --> 1:25:28.670 Well, here's the thing. 1:25:28.689 --> 1:25:30.540 Even happy birthday, like, I'm just like. 1:25:30.560 --> 1:25:33.050 Oh no, well that's, yeah. I remember, I remember when 1:25:33.090 --> 1:25:35.470 we were at Brett's together and I was for the 1:25:35.510 --> 1:25:38.850 first time ever putting like background vocals on something. And 1:25:38.890 --> 1:25:40.530 you were saying like, that's like one of your favorite 1:25:40.570 --> 1:25:43.240 parts because it's like scaping. You know what I mean? 1:25:43.260 --> 1:25:45.780 It's like, it's not the quote unquote singing part. And 1:25:45.800 --> 1:25:48.600 then I remember you said like, I barely sing. And 1:25:48.620 --> 1:25:51.180 I remember I heard you say that. And then the 1:25:51.220 --> 1:25:52.560 back of my mind, I was like, that's so funny 1:25:52.600 --> 1:25:53.960 that he said he barely sings. 1:25:55.310 --> 1:25:57.730 I am a good like talk singer. 1:25:57.970 --> 1:25:58.530 No, no, no. 1:25:58.689 --> 1:25:59.310 Here's what's happening. 1:25:59.960 --> 1:26:08.610 You're placing value in a kind of vocal quality that 1:26:08.710 --> 1:26:09.689 people prize. 1:26:09.710 --> 1:26:10.610 Right. 1:26:10.910 --> 1:26:15.180 But just because you don't sing the right note in 1:26:15.200 --> 1:26:17.700 the car doesn't mean you're a bad singer. 1:26:17.720 --> 1:26:22.700 No, I'm being self-deprecating because I really do value... Some 1:26:22.760 --> 1:26:26.469 of my favorite singers are not very good technically. Maybe 1:26:26.490 --> 1:26:27.910 they've got a very small range or something like that. 1:26:28.150 --> 1:26:29.370 But I like believe them. 1:26:29.490 --> 1:26:29.790 Yes. 1:26:30.130 --> 1:26:31.990 But like I said, the magic zone is when somebody 1:26:32.010 --> 1:26:33.530 can just do all of it. And that must be 1:26:33.550 --> 1:26:35.800 so fun. If you're, if you're Ariana. 1:26:36.060 --> 1:26:36.260 Yeah. 1:26:36.380 --> 1:26:40.420 Or if you're Whitney or whatever, or like Zara Larson, 1:26:40.620 --> 1:26:42.500 that would, that must be so fun. 1:26:42.700 --> 1:26:42.860 Yeah. 1:26:42.880 --> 1:26:44.519 To be able to just like do that all the time, 1:26:44.580 --> 1:26:44.840 you know? 1:26:45.000 --> 1:26:47.460 But even there, even Ari is like, on this album 1:26:47.500 --> 1:26:49.280 is like, I'm not going to give you like the belt. 1:26:49.340 --> 1:26:51.460 I'm going to keep it like really restrained. 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:53.650 She can do, she can do it all. Like she, 1:26:53.890 --> 1:26:57.559 her restraint is gorgeous. Her belt is gorgeous. Right. you know, 1:26:57.580 --> 1:26:59.060 there's an endless possibility. 1:26:59.600 --> 1:27:02.080 The thing that she said recently, which is I think 1:27:02.120 --> 1:27:05.340 sometimes people forget about Ariana when they're talking about the 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:08.889 fact that she's not belting on her recent albums like 1:27:08.900 --> 1:27:11.470 people know she can. It's that if anyone knows her 1:27:11.530 --> 1:27:15.990 voice and what it can do, it's Ariana Grande. She 1:27:16.150 --> 1:27:19.490 literally is someone who is a studied vocalist. So when 1:27:19.570 --> 1:27:22.990 she is not doing those things, it is on purpose 1:27:23.030 --> 1:27:26.460 because that is what best suits her musical output. And 1:27:26.500 --> 1:27:29.570 I think She even says while she knows her voice 1:27:29.630 --> 1:27:32.850 is super special, she actually thinks her best quality is 1:27:32.890 --> 1:27:34.710 her ear and the way that she can hear everything 1:27:34.750 --> 1:27:37.910 together because as an artist, her voice is not her 1:27:38.070 --> 1:27:42.769 only instrument. So she's like allowed to do whatever the 1:27:42.810 --> 1:27:46.390 fuck she wants with it and she's still using the 1:27:46.450 --> 1:27:51.230 entire breadth of her artistic tool. And guess who also 1:27:51.270 --> 1:27:53.889 hates karaoke? Ariana Grande. Really? 1:27:54.350 --> 1:27:56.590 We invited her to come to karaoke with us after 1:27:56.650 --> 1:27:58.960 her show. which was, and then I laughed. 1:27:59.220 --> 1:28:00.459 I was like, to. 1:28:00.840 --> 1:28:04.780 Be fair, I'm surprised. Like I'm acting surprised, but I 1:28:04.860 --> 1:28:06.420 also think if singers don't like it. 1:28:06.740 --> 1:28:06.920 Yeah. 1:28:06.979 --> 1:28:08.720 If you're a singer and you like go with your 1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:11.410 friends and then you sing in front of them, like 1:28:11.430 --> 1:28:13.290 it's like everyone knows that you can sing. 1:28:13.390 --> 1:28:15.550 We just wanted her to come and like hang. Right. 1:28:15.830 --> 1:28:18.070 Cause like her friends were like, like, like we were 1:28:18.090 --> 1:28:20.229 all going, like her friends were all going. And then 1:28:20.570 --> 1:28:22.190 I was like, come to karaoke. And she was like, 1:28:22.780 --> 1:28:23.760 I'm not going to do that. 1:28:25.860 --> 1:28:29.870 Everyone must think that she's going to like, it must 1:28:29.890 --> 1:28:31.430 be no fun. She has to go up there and 1:28:31.450 --> 1:28:34.610 sing like a perfect, you know, insane performance. And that's 1:28:34.650 --> 1:28:35.850 the gag of the night. Like, no, what if she 1:28:35.890 --> 1:28:37.590 just wants to like get drunk and hang out with 1:28:37.630 --> 1:28:39.150 everyone and sing terribly. 1:28:39.340 --> 1:28:41.100 But can you imagine if she was the kind of 1:28:41.140 --> 1:28:43.240 person that was like I love karaoke and then she 1:28:43.280 --> 1:28:46.200 was like no chance no way and did like all 1:28:47.160 --> 1:28:49.190 ram the show in karaoke you'd be like oh I 1:28:49.210 --> 1:28:51.150 didn't expect this I don't know if I love. 1:28:51.010 --> 1:28:56.090 It there's a powerhouse like famous amazing diva who loves 1:28:56.130 --> 1:28:58.530 karaoke and does it like full out. 1:28:58.550 --> 1:29:03.900 Is it Adele That's charming and that makes it. I 1:29:03.900 --> 1:29:04.760 knew that about her. 1:29:04.840 --> 1:29:06.120 It's a personality thing. 1:29:06.140 --> 1:29:08.120 I knew that about her. That's what a gag it is. 1:29:08.180 --> 1:29:11.080 It's like I love that someone is just like. It's 1:29:11.100 --> 1:29:13.190 a personality thing. I'm coming and I'm shredding. I think 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:14.940 Kelly Clarkson too loves karaoke. 1:29:15.120 --> 1:29:17.330 See, that is really fun. I take it back what 1:29:17.350 --> 1:29:20.010 I said. That's really fun to be there while they 1:29:20.030 --> 1:29:20.309 do that. 1:29:20.470 --> 1:29:23.790 Yeah, oh my God. Also, I have a friend of 1:29:23.870 --> 1:29:26.570 ours years and years and years ago was at a wedding. 1:29:26.689 --> 1:29:29.880 I was at the same wedding as Cynthia Erivo. This 1:29:30.400 --> 1:29:35.280 is like post Color Purple, but pre her being Cynthia 1:29:36.660 --> 1:29:38.190 in the way that we know her now. And I 1:29:38.210 --> 1:29:40.809 guess at some point, How Will I Know by Whitney 1:29:40.850 --> 1:29:44.270 Houston came on, and Cynthia just in the middle of 1:29:44.350 --> 1:29:47.530 the floor just gave How Will I Know full power. 1:29:47.550 --> 1:29:49.450 No mic at the wedding? No mic, just while they're 1:29:49.470 --> 1:29:51.840 all dancing at the wedding. Everyone's just on the ground 1:29:52.650 --> 1:29:55.100 enjoying How Will I Know while the band or the 1:29:55.120 --> 1:29:59.280 DJ played, but then Cynthia was absolutely giving people eye contact, 1:29:59.560 --> 1:30:02.719 ripping How Will I Know. Everyone was just like, it's 1:30:02.880 --> 1:30:06.950 so good. Wow. We're nutted. Some people just love to sing. 1:30:07.229 --> 1:30:09.610 Troy has to go. The little computer over there is saying, 1:30:09.650 --> 1:30:12.130 which breaks our heart because this has been so fun. 1:30:12.170 --> 1:30:14.270 So fun guys. Thank you for having me. 1:30:14.490 --> 1:30:16.010 This is, I really feel like this is going to 1:30:16.050 --> 1:30:18.599 be a very special moment for you and you deserve it. 1:30:19.110 --> 1:30:19.470 We'll see. 1:30:19.710 --> 1:30:21.760 Let's sing a song as we end every episode. 1:30:21.770 --> 1:30:26.360 Okay. Should we go to an oldie? You know, I've actually, 1:30:26.580 --> 1:30:31.939 this song actually helped me. Okay. I bloom, I bloom 1:30:32.280 --> 1:30:36.810 just for you. I bloom just for you. Just for you. 1:30:37.370 --> 1:30:39.389 And now this is... Yeah, that wasn't bad. 1:30:39.410 --> 1:30:40.610 That was good. I liked that little.. 1:30:40.990 --> 1:30:41.530 You. 1:30:41.550 --> 1:30:42.230 You. 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:44.410 Competitive with each other? 1:30:44.900 --> 1:30:49.420 No, never. We do a full howl I know against 1:30:49.479 --> 1:30:49.820 each other. 1:30:49.840 --> 1:30:50.120 Yeah. 1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:54.100 There's a... We gotta go. Bye. 1:30:54.189 --> 1:30:54.570 Bye.