WEBVTT - The First One 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:05.480 Hello. It's two thirty five pm Mountain Time and Roswell, 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:11.840 New Mexico, PM in New York City and one pm 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:22.840 in Los Angeles, and you're listening to Nightcall. I'm Emily Oshida, 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.520 and you're listening to Night Call, a podcast to keep 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.240 you company during these strange days and lovely nights, and 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.640 joining me on the line in Los Angeles. Two of 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.040 my favorite pods people in the world. I want to 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.839 introduce yourselves, Molly Lambert and I'm Tesla, and give us 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.200 a call and leave a message at one two four 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.800 oh four six night. That's two four oh four six 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:51.760 six four four for eight. Leave us your thoughts, theories, 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:57.000 ask us for advice. We might have some I don't know. Uh. Yeah, 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.080 we're just here to We're just here to be your 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.720 chat buddies. Really, um, how are you guys doing? How's 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.760 Los Angeles? I was just there yesterday. No, you just 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:12.720 left one second ago. It's still like bizarrely unseasonably hot, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.240 which is strange, terrible. It's really pretty bad. I was 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.520 complaining that it was cold, but right now it's like 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.319 eighty five degrees, which is crazy. It's a big spread. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.119 It's cold at night, which I'm into. I was sitting 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:30.240 by a pool not forty eight hours ago, and now 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.560 I am wearing snow boots and a hat, and I 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:38.760 feel like garbage. So it's a really good state of 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.759 mind to kick things off. Well, I have the perfect 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.080 thing to take your mind off that, which is uh, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:52.520 naked mole rats. Because whether you're warm or cold, it 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.440 doesn't matter. We have to talk about naked mole rats. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.360 Under all naked mole rats. When I say that, we're 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.720 at my apartment right now, and touch shot up with 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.040 a stack of papers as I did, printed off the internet, 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:11.040 for sure, I mean about naked mole rats. There used 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.360 to be um an exhibit on naked mole rats and 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.760 the zoo that I at the town I grew up in, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.080 and they were like they were really trying to push 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:23.560 naked male rats. It's like a viral animal. I love them. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.240 I'm not sold on their looks. Well. First of all, 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:27.840 let me tell you that the reason that I found 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.960 the papers that I printed from the internet. As Molly point, 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.000 I love the Internet, you said, from the internet, it's 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.840 very professional, is because last week there was a viral 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.679 video of a rat taking a shower like a man 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.440 or a woman washing his or her body with soap, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.720 and then everyone realized that it wasn't a rat. It 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.480 was a different kind of animal with no tail. It 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.720 was it called Pacaranda. Wait, no Pacarana. Hold on, I'm 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.920 gonna sift through. That doesn't make it any less impressive. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.920 I don't think it's really get right, I don't think 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.639 it's real. I've seen this rat. I've seen this Pacaranna. Pacaranda. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.000 Uh wait, pacara Pacarana. It has no D. I put 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.680 in the D to see if you were paying attention. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:15.480 You are you passed? I've just seen this video, and 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.440 I don't believe that it's real. You think it's a 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.600 doctor shower rat video? I do. I think that somebody 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.240 made a fake shower rat. Is that because you're skeptical 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.960 of all viral rat videos? Since Pizza Rat was exposed 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.440 as a hoax? Was Pizza at exposed? I liked Pizza Rat. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.120 I liked his spirit. I like Pizza Rat better than this. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.800 Everybody liked Pizza Rat. It was totally a setup. Yeah, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.760 it was. What What was the deal? Do you remember 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.200 what the deal with debunking that was? I think some 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.760 girl admitted it was her she was like, I thought 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.040 it was a funny thing to do, so I did it? 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.560 How you Ben Hosley, who we should? You know? Acknowledge 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.480 upfront as the man behind the knobs. He is shaking 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.880 his head extremely skeptically about this. What is the truth 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.720 about Pizza Rat? It's not a hoax. It's not a 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:07.600 hoax because the guy who filmed his name is Matt 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.000 and he's a u c B guy, And Uh, I 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:16.080 can confirm that that footage is real. Oh, you're telling 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.719 me a U c B guy made a viral video 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:23.000 and it's a documentary. And that's all they live to 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.920 make viral videos, those uc BE guys. I just don't 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.599 understand how you could manipulate a video of you know, 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:34.200 rats can't play along like shower rat. I don't. Well, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.080 I know that rats laugh. It's maybe like the more 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.760 they do. Um. I like rats. I've been known to 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.520 have to be dragged away from gutters because I want 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:47.080 to rescue a rat and make it my friend. Uh, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.160 it's a puppet. It has to be at a t. 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.120 Maybe they used the technology from Rod. Yes, you know 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:57.160 Rattui was I didn't like Gratitui. I'm sorry, it's one 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.000 of those. No, it's because it's one of those Pixar 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.119 brad Bird a for Randy, and it's a Randy and narrator. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.960 It's also like you you sell it to your kid, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:06.920 is something that you can both enjoy. And then there's 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.240 a lady with a shotgun like shooting everywhere, and it 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.680 was so unexpected. I was like, I thought this was 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.240 about cooking. It's not at all. Are you sure you 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.000 didn't watch Bambi? YEA, well no, I haven't watched Bamby 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.000 with my children. I'm not a you know, sadist test 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.080 test tie together the Naked Mole rats and the then 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.640 the Sewer rat. I want to understand the connection here 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.920 are we just here in celebration of vermin in general? 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:36.400 You said sewer? I think you met shower shower. It's 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.359 all the same for at times, Emily so On gives 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:44.520 motto today um, which is not today for anyone listening 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.000 to this, but it will always be today for me. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.200 They just dated us so bad. I know, I'm so sorry, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.280 but it's really it's for it's a science e thing, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.320 so it's you know, I'm trying to be honest. It 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:59.080 says Naked Mole rats could theoretically live forever. And these 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.320 naked molerats who have like I don't know, they're hideous, 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.120 they're wrinkly, they have like tusks coming out of their noses. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.760 They like the weird eyes. Anyway, they're being studied at 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.560 the research firm Calico, which is owned by Google, and 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.760 they have these mole rats and in captivity. I guess 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.960 most animals like the naked mole rat live like six years. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.480 These guys have been going for like thirty five years, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.279 and sometimes they'll die of I think one of the 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:30.799 things was periodontal disease, but also just like regular you know, diseases. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.920 But if they don't get sick, they just keep going. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.159 And they're like thirty five years old. So they're being 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.960 studied to see if maybe we can copy the naked 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.839 mole rat. Okay, as soon as you said, Calicaha is 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.560 like the scariest It's the scariest company. That's why I 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.200 thought you guys might want to talk about the naked more. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.880 Totally do because it's like all those silicone valley dudes 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.120 want to live forever, which is crazy to injecting his 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.760 veins with the of mole rats. Vampire mole rats? Is 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.880 he kind of rats slurry to to guzzle down at 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:13.400 his sex orgies vinegary shrub of mule rat juice. I 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.600 was just reading that Quincy Jones g Q interview that 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.720 will also date when this podcast was recorded. Um. But 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.680 he talks about how he was had dinner with Lenny 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:27.520 Reefinstall because he was a fan, which is obviously crazy. Uh. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:32.920 She sort of buys the she did nothing wrong element, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:37.680 which is not true. She fla, I don't understand how 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.800 that's even an argument that gets any credence at all anymore. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.320 Somebody made it in the seventies that she was like 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.120 a great women woman filmmaker and they were wrong. We 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.640 have to do better. She um, we can do better 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.480 as as far as female filmmakers. We have lots of 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.560 alternatives at this point. So he had dinner with her, 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.119 and she told him that the Nazis were on drugs 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:02.920 all the time, which I think is now sort of 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.520 openly known because of that book blitzed Um. But she 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.120 was like, yeah, like Hitler was on coke all day 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.240 every day, and all the high ranking Nazis were like 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.440 on coke and meth. So I was looking up stuff 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:14.960 about that, and then I saw that one of the 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.000 other things the Nazi doctors did was they injected Hitler 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.520 with bull semen like that. I don't I think we 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:28.320 got to this from injections. We've we've gone from zero 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.840 to next ory, Like it's like Peter Teel injecting himself 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.839 with the Virgin blood. Man. This podcast is going to 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:39.200 get sued by Hulk Hogan too early. We got to 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.640 build up some steam first. That could be really great publicity. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:47.839 First episode, we'll all go on trial. Why did they 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.120 inject him with bull semen though, because it was like 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.880 like an aphrodisiac supposedly, because you want an aphrodisiac. Wouldn't 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.200 he just wanted he know, he wanted um. It was 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.520 when he was going to to make love to the 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:08.280 disgusting Eva Brown, Thank god, disgusting, horrible people. Uh but yeah, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:12.480 all the weird all the weird doping. Anyway, I thought 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.120 of that thinking about people injecting themselves and stuff to 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:19.920 live forever. Would you inject yourself with naked mole rats serum? 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.960 If you thought that, like, would you be you know, 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:27.439 a test subject for something that could make you basically immortal? No? 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.560 Why would you want to live forever. Sorry, I mean, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.480 I like, I'm gonna be so tired by the time. 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.000 I'm like whatever age already tired. I'm already trying to 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.959 talk everlasting stance. I suppose sometimes I like hear about 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.880 something that will happen in the far off future and 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.840 I'm like, oh, thank god, I'll be dead. Yeah. Yeah, 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.600 it's like that's that's one way in which like your 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.200 average Silicon Valley dude does not like they are not 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.880 like the rest of us guys, They're not like us. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.840 They also like just got powerful, so they want to 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.360 hang on to like their ability to have sex with women. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.480 They're having the orgies now, Yeah, their newfound orgy abilities. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:14.560 They want to last as long as possible. You know 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.800 what movie I enjoyed and I know Emily enjoyed, and 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.520 I'd love to spend one second talking about. Is the 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.680 movie Paddington Too? Oh ship. Can we do a Paddington 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:31.040 to transition right now? Just Paddington corner, Paddington Marmalade corner. Okay, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:36.800 we're calling an audible. It's Paddington time. I'm just gonna 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:42.080 listen because I haven't seen Padding put Paddington too. Okay, paddingtone, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.920 great movie, excellent movie. Paddington Too one of the like I, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.600 I actually feel like it's going to be hard to 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.080 top this year as far as films go. I was 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.400 so delighted by this movie. Why wait, this is so 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.880 mystifying to tell you why. Okay, So my friend was like, 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.280 let's go see Paddington too, and I was missed of fine, 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.400 but I was like, that will be fun. Whatever, I'll 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.760 go see a movie at the Americana. But then, like, 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.840 as the trailers were running, I was like, oh no, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.640 what have I done? Because it was all children's movies trailers, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.920 so they were all either like insufferably tweet or like 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.960 so grating, and I was like, oh no, like kids 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.000 movies are bad. I don't want to see a kids movie. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.880 But then Paddington two is like a lovely, delightful movie 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:29.200 full of British character actors that is not pandering or 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.000 somehow not tweet even though it's Paddington and is just 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.680 a delight and I was like, why is this so good? 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:37.680 So then I looked it up and it's the guy 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:43.040 who directed All the Mighty So it's like a British 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:48.720 alternative comedy but for kids. Uh, it's so good. It's yeah, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.040 just agree. I mean, yeah, it's just delightful. It's a 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:56.200 movie that like addresses kids at their level and not 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.000 in not in a way that makes not like more. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.560 I think that I wrote of a view of it 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.880 and I compared it to like Babe. I think it's 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:10.280 a comparison point. And also like the Muppet movies, earlier 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.520 Muppet movies where it's just kind of like silly humor. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.600 None of it is like there's not really like toilet 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.240 humor or anything. It's just like silliness and and silliness 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.480 that that that kids and and adults could appreciate without 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.720 it being like in jokes for the adults and sometimes 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.120 like a little dark um and it all takes place 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:35.600 on like Portobello Road. It's very charming in every possible way. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.480 I mean, the best. The main plot point of Paddington 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.400 two is that Paddington goes to jail and he makes 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:49.200 jail like beautiful. Yeah, he stole a pop up book. Yeah, 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.960 he's framed. But it's also it's a great movie because 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:56.520 it's like against classism. It's like it's an anti Brexit, 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.640 anti Brexit movie, although it does adhere to a false 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.640 immigrant narrative that only the immigrants who accomplish like greaton 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.360 deserved to stay. But it also is like it's about 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.640 like the prisoners, like Paddington's adopted father, human father like 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.840 judges the prisoners. And then like I can't see that 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.480 Hugh Grant, who's the villain, it is amazing, is evil 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.960 because he's posh, you know, yeah, and everyone's like, can't 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.840 you see He's just like a scammer with a posh accent. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.960 And these prisoners are like good people who didn't deserve 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.880 to go to jail necessarily or who can like get 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:36.000 out of jail and live lives and you know, redeem themselves. Uh, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.679 it's such a good movie. It's so good. It's like 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.080 the world is a better place for that movie being around. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.600 That's and that's about the highest compliment I can give 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.120 to a movie. Yeah. I was like shocked at how 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.480 much I enjoyed it, Like c G I bear, I 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.640 was like, I don't know about this, but then it's cute, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:57.760 very very's cute. Yeah, Okay, Pattington too, Pattington to corner, 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.120 Uh it shut down for this happens. But if I 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.400 have more feelings about Paddington too. I just want to 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.400 talk about how Hugh Grant looks so great. His name 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:11.160 is Phoenix something. He is an actor and he's a 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.360 master of disguise. Some of the jokes are like silly names. Yeah, 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.720 he's like he's a he's like a West End actor 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:22.200 who treads the board. Oh, he's so. But it's also 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.880 like he also has pictures around his house of him 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.280 as a younger, handsomer man. But it's just pictures of 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.200 Hugh Grant. You're just hilarious. Here's what I was going 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.520 to say, is like he looks hot because he doesn't 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:39.280 look like a botox monster. He has lines, but I'm like, oh, 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.080 I'm old, so like I find him hot old now. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.400 But also creased is creased like slang like thick, Like 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:51.000 oh man, he creased right now? He create? He creased 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:55.720 with two d's or maybe like three s and two d. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:04.320 It was just very crea face. It's like instead of Zaddi, Yes, yeah, totally, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.920 because you know, I find Zaddie a little like sometimes 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.520 I'm like I don't know, Oh wait, can we drop 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.320 this out of nowhere? That Molly just made an incredible 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.240 connection between two of our favorite television shows that I 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.760 had not been aware of until Oh, yeah, I've been 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:23.080 watching Cheers, the prequel to Fraser. Yeah, the famous frequent 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:31.400 What I was trying to say, Um, it's a good 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.040 film about a good film about a bar an old 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.400 timey illustrations show. Yeah, I always thought that show was about, 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:46.320 Um it takes place in I'm pretty sure definitely. I 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.200 watched the episode where I've been watching the season where 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.240 Fraser is introduced, which is season three. He's introduced us like, 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.280 and I sort of realized because I've never watched Tears 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.600 all the way through. I've seen like a Cheers Cheers 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.040 here and there, but yeah, I didn't realize how much 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.400 Fraser is just like a al Diane. Yes, they were 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.800 like interest, right, Yeah, they date and he's like the 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:11.760 the opposite of Sam, who's like the yeah, the sexy playboy. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.080 He's like more working class or well, no, he was 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.040 a he was an athlete, but he's more like, you know, 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:21.360 like she was also super about classism among but just 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:26.880 among like white people in Boston, like slobs versus snobs. Uh. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.080 But yeah, I watched the episode where Fraser's mother appeared 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.880 and realized that his mother who appears in one episode, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.360 whose name is Hester Crane in the episode, is played 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:43.320 by Nancy marshand Ak Olivia Soprano. Wait, really yes, that's nuts, 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.840 and it's amazing because she's like she's, you know, Nancy Marshan, 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:53.600 and she's amazing. She's so interesting because her the mom 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:58.560 is supposed to be dead in um in Frasier for Fraser, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.080 but then I don't know if they ever explain that 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.120 or if there's like an event you don't explain it, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.840 but it could still work with this chronology because the 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.199 mom is like she's she's like a Boston like a 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.240 snotty Boston rich lady I think is the idea. But 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.840 then like she sends Fraser to the bar to get 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.240 a drink, she does, she disappears of Diane because Diane 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.080 is like a lowly barmaid, but she sends Fraser to 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.480 get a drink and that she turns to Diane and 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:27.960 she's like, I'm going to kill you. She says, if 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.040 you don't stop dating my son Frasier, I'm going to 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.080 kill you. And then Diane kind of laughs and she's like, no, 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:40.239 I'm serious, I have a gun. It's amazing. I'm so 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.960 glad that there's a connection. Like, yeah, so it's all 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.560 one shared everything is on show. It's all one show. 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:53.840 So speaking of shared universes, I guess we're gonna talk 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.920 about Black Mirror. Um. Black Mirror, i'd like to think 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.160 is along with Frasier, a show that it we made popular. 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.880 It's all us, thank you or you're welcome, Charlie Brooker, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.200 Um we are. Yeah, we'll be expecting our checks in 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.320 the mail. Um. No, but we we used to talk 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.680 about Black Mirror a ton just off of the first 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.679 couple episodes that are in the UK. Um on our 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.600 old podcast Girls and Hoodies on the Grantline network when 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.960 it was available when we end to hop on. We 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.840 got so many frequent flyer miles off of that. Remember 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.640 that you guys so much fun. Yeah no, I got 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.720 I got those upgrades. Um it was great. Um but yeah, 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:39.120 we so we were we were early appreciators, I would say, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.159 of the show, and now it's kind of become this 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:45.399 whole thing. Like the website that I work for, vulture 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.240 dot Com posted around the time that The New Seat, 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.760 the most recent season on Netflix, came out a their 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.280 ranking of the best Black Mirror episodes and it's been 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.640 at the top of the site for like a month now, 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.679 like suddenly Black Mirror is this thing everybody wants to 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:05.240 talk about or it's like weirdly divisive somehow. Um, but 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.720 we wanted to talk about the most recent episodes, even 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.440 though it's a little old, because I know some people 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.840 are catching up to still, myself included, I haven't watched 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.120 all of the Newest Sea. It's never old because it's 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:19.520 in the future, right, yeah, Which, actually this is an 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.160 interesting question because I feel like there are now at 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.239 this point some Black Mirror episodes that are in the 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:30.520 past now comparatively well in the past. But it's always 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.560 like just slightly it's supposed to be anywhere from like 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.880 ten minutes in the I think the quote was ten 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.160 if we're messing up, okay, but going with that, if 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.480 the Prime Minister fucked a pig, and we're now in 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.719 the Prime Minister the pig, that's true, that's true, then 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.800 we can lay out where we're mean we kind of are, 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.280 you know, Like I feel like I feel like if 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.240 the equivalent happened, and in the United States, it would 0:19:55.320 --> 0:20:00.200 I mean, our our our president has has symbolically fuck 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.560 to pig, many times over at this point, and and 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:07.160 we've he's probably also literally that's true. Well, I mean 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:11.800 we also actually happened. Do you remember when? Uh uh 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:13.880 oh god, why am I blanking on the Prime Minister's 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.560 name now? But that's what I'm saying. We're in the 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.920 timeline where the thing predicted by Black Mirror actually happens, 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.480 so that all the things predicted by Black Mirror will 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.520 not happen like in a Black Mirror. As an aside, 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.679 may I ask if you guys have favorite episodes of 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.359 Black Mirror, even though with the caveat that you have 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.440 not seen all of them yet from the season, from 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.440 all all time, you can list a few you can 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:43.200 listen to. My favorite is is um fifteen million merits? Yes, 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:47.000 that's that one. I feel like a lot of people 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.600 don't like it just because of the bike stuff or 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.600 it feels a little too on the nose and everything, 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.120 But um, I think where it gets too at the end, 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.080 about like how it's impossible to actually make protests art 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:02.280 because it all gets co opted right by capitalism, is 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.800 like completely depressing, but also I think still extremely relevant. 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.520 Um and Daniel Coluia, isn't it? And the Oscar nominated 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.760 Daniel Caluya isn't it and he is great? Um yeah, 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:17.199 I love that episode. It's it's like totally I don't know, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.159 I feel all of it, all of its points. Molly, 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.480 do you have one? I like that one where the 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.800 guy breaks his glasses and then he can't read any 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.000 of the books. All the Time in the World, the 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:35.320 classic nineteen sis is Black Mirror. I forget that guy's name. 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.960 I used to remember that episode. I had memorized it 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.399 was all the Time in the World. Um okay. I 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:46.560 So I'm gonna propose Basically, there were a bunch of 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.719 articles on this. There's one from Wired by Miranda Cats 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:55.119 that kind of posets that were, you know, reaching like 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.800 the singularity. So it says um that since the purchase 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.199 from Netflix, Black Mirror has begun to chip away at 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:05.119 its episodic edges. And basically, you know, there is some 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.159 kind of like unifying universe. It's not just you know, 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:13.000 an anthology. Really, it kind of all belongs to its 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.240 own universe. And there are all these Easter eggs and 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.800 stuff that are sprinkled throughout and I think particularly in 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:23.480 the fourth season, especially most obviously in the finale, UM, 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.080 which is the Black Museum. They kind of go through 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.280 and and link a bunch of things. But there was 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:33.639 this super interesting UM article on screen Crush by e. 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.960 Oliver Whitney, and the proposal is the chronological list of 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:41.080 episodes that begins with national Anthem, which is obviously the 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:46.520 pig fucking if you will, and yeah, I will, maybe 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.800 that we dropped those kind of things in our first 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.080 episode of our podcast UM, but yeah, it's it's really 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.080 interesting because a lot of the chronology, like a lot 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.320 of this hypothesis rests on a news ticker that shows 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.120 up in episodes like a US all the seasons, where 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.399 you know, there will be like a news broadcast in 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.199 the background of whatever is going on, and if you 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:10.159 read the news ticker, it'll reference UM incidents that have 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.080 happened in other episodes. You can kind of loosely place 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.840 them on a timeline. This isn't this isn't Black Museum. 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:19.159 This happens No, so this is actually there's there are. 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.800 The news tickers are like in all sorts, in all 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:27.119 different episodes. The Black Museum basically spoilers go away spoilers 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.159 if you have them. Okay, well, I'll just say that 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:34.240 The Black Museum is essentially a tour of the future 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:39.520 created by Black Mirror Um. But but it is not 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.360 the last episode of you know what I mean, it's 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.280 it's not the final episode in the timeline. It could 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.800 be the series finale though, yes, but there's a but 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.280 there's a more. There's one that's further in the future 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.880