Speaker 1: Hello. It's two thirty five pm Mountain Time and Roswell,
Speaker 1: New Mexico, PM in New York City and one pm
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and you're listening to Nightcall. I'm Emily Oshida,
Speaker 1: and you're listening to Night Call, a podcast to keep
Speaker 1: you company during these strange days and lovely nights, and
Speaker 1: joining me on the line in Los Angeles. Two of
Speaker 1: my favorite pods people in the world. I want to
Speaker 1: introduce yourselves, Molly Lambert and I'm Tesla, and give us
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Speaker 1: oh four six night. That's two four oh four six
Speaker 1: six four four for eight. Leave us your thoughts, theories,
Speaker 1: ask us for advice. We might have some I don't know. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just here to We're just here to be your
Speaker 1: chat buddies. Really, um, how are you guys doing? How's
Speaker 1: Los Angeles? I was just there yesterday. No, you just
Speaker 1: left one second ago. It's still like bizarrely unseasonably hot,
Speaker 1: which is strange, terrible. It's really pretty bad. I was
Speaker 1: complaining that it was cold, but right now it's like
Speaker 1: eighty five degrees, which is crazy. It's a big spread.
Speaker 1: It's cold at night, which I'm into. I was sitting
Speaker 1: by a pool not forty eight hours ago, and now
Speaker 1: I am wearing snow boots and a hat, and I
Speaker 1: feel like garbage. So it's a really good state of
Speaker 1: mind to kick things off. Well, I have the perfect
Speaker 1: thing to take your mind off that, which is uh,
Speaker 1: naked mole rats. Because whether you're warm or cold, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We have to talk about naked mole rats.
Speaker 1: Under all naked mole rats. When I say that, we're
Speaker 1: at my apartment right now, and touch shot up with
Speaker 1: a stack of papers as I did, printed off the internet,
Speaker 1: for sure, I mean about naked mole rats. There used
Speaker 1: to be um an exhibit on naked mole rats and
Speaker 1: the zoo that I at the town I grew up in,
Speaker 1: and they were like they were really trying to push
Speaker 1: naked male rats. It's like a viral animal. I love them.
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on their looks. Well. First of all,
Speaker 1: let me tell you that the reason that I found
Speaker 1: the papers that I printed from the internet. As Molly point,
Speaker 1: I love the Internet, you said, from the internet, it's
Speaker 1: very professional, is because last week there was a viral
Speaker 1: video of a rat taking a shower like a man
Speaker 1: or a woman washing his or her body with soap,
Speaker 1: and then everyone realized that it wasn't a rat. It
Speaker 1: was a different kind of animal with no tail. It
Speaker 1: was it called Pacaranda. Wait, no Pacarana. Hold on, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sift through. That doesn't make it any less impressive.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really get right, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's real. I've seen this rat. I've seen this Pacaranna. Pacaranda.
Speaker 1: Uh wait, pacara Pacarana. It has no D. I put
Speaker 1: in the D to see if you were paying attention.
Speaker 1: You are you passed? I've just seen this video, and
Speaker 1: I don't believe that it's real. You think it's a
Speaker 1: doctor shower rat video? I do. I think that somebody
Speaker 1: made a fake shower rat. Is that because you're skeptical
Speaker 1: of all viral rat videos? Since Pizza Rat was exposed
Speaker 1: as a hoax? Was Pizza at exposed? I liked Pizza Rat.
Speaker 1: I liked his spirit. I like Pizza Rat better than this.
Speaker 1: Everybody liked Pizza Rat. It was totally a setup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. What What was the deal? Do you remember
Speaker 1: what the deal with debunking that was? I think some
Speaker 1: girl admitted it was her she was like, I thought
Speaker 1: it was a funny thing to do, so I did it?
Speaker 1: How you Ben Hosley, who we should? You know? Acknowledge
Speaker 1: upfront as the man behind the knobs. He is shaking
Speaker 1: his head extremely skeptically about this. What is the truth
Speaker 1: about Pizza Rat? It's not a hoax. It's not a
Speaker 1: hoax because the guy who filmed his name is Matt
Speaker 1: and he's a u c B guy, And Uh, I
Speaker 1: can confirm that that footage is real. Oh, you're telling
Speaker 1: me a U c B guy made a viral video
Speaker 1: and it's a documentary. And that's all they live to
Speaker 1: make viral videos, those uc BE guys. I just don't
Speaker 1: understand how you could manipulate a video of you know,
Speaker 1: rats can't play along like shower rat. I don't. Well,
Speaker 1: I know that rats laugh. It's maybe like the more
Speaker 1: they do. Um. I like rats. I've been known to
Speaker 1: have to be dragged away from gutters because I want
Speaker 1: to rescue a rat and make it my friend. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a puppet. It has to be at a t.
Speaker 1: Maybe they used the technology from Rod. Yes, you know
Speaker 1: Rattui was I didn't like Gratitui. I'm sorry, it's one
Speaker 1: of those. No, it's because it's one of those Pixar
Speaker 1: brad Bird a for Randy, and it's a Randy and narrator.
Speaker 1: It's also like you you sell it to your kid,
Speaker 1: is something that you can both enjoy. And then there's
Speaker 1: a lady with a shotgun like shooting everywhere, and it
Speaker 1: was so unexpected. I was like, I thought this was
Speaker 1: about cooking. It's not at all. Are you sure you
Speaker 1: didn't watch Bambi? YEA, well no, I haven't watched Bamby
Speaker 1: with my children. I'm not a you know, sadist test
Speaker 1: test tie together the Naked Mole rats and the then
Speaker 1: the Sewer rat. I want to understand the connection here
Speaker 1: are we just here in celebration of vermin in general?
Speaker 1: You said sewer? I think you met shower shower. It's
Speaker 1: all the same for at times, Emily so On gives
Speaker 1: motto today um, which is not today for anyone listening
Speaker 1: to this, but it will always be today for me.
Speaker 1: They just dated us so bad. I know, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: but it's really it's for it's a science e thing,
Speaker 1: so it's you know, I'm trying to be honest. It
Speaker 1: says Naked Mole rats could theoretically live forever. And these
Speaker 1: naked molerats who have like I don't know, they're hideous,
Speaker 1: they're wrinkly, they have like tusks coming out of their noses.
Speaker 1: They like the weird eyes. Anyway, they're being studied at
Speaker 1: the research firm Calico, which is owned by Google, and
Speaker 1: they have these mole rats and in captivity. I guess
Speaker 1: most animals like the naked mole rat live like six years.
Speaker 1: These guys have been going for like thirty five years,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they'll die of I think one of the
Speaker 1: things was periodontal disease, but also just like regular you know, diseases.
Speaker 1: But if they don't get sick, they just keep going.
Speaker 1: And they're like thirty five years old. So they're being
Speaker 1: studied to see if maybe we can copy the naked
Speaker 1: mole rat. Okay, as soon as you said, Calicaha is
Speaker 1: like the scariest It's the scariest company. That's why I
Speaker 1: thought you guys might want to talk about the naked more.
Speaker 1: Totally do because it's like all those silicone valley dudes
Speaker 1: want to live forever, which is crazy to injecting his
Speaker 1: veins with the of mole rats. Vampire mole rats? Is
Speaker 1: he kind of rats slurry to to guzzle down at
Speaker 1: his sex orgies vinegary shrub of mule rat juice. I
Speaker 1: was just reading that Quincy Jones g Q interview that
Speaker 1: will also date when this podcast was recorded. Um. But
Speaker 1: he talks about how he was had dinner with Lenny
Speaker 1: Reefinstall because he was a fan, which is obviously crazy. Uh.
Speaker 1: She sort of buys the she did nothing wrong element,
Speaker 1: which is not true. She fla, I don't understand how
Speaker 1: that's even an argument that gets any credence at all anymore.
Speaker 1: Somebody made it in the seventies that she was like
Speaker 1: a great women woman filmmaker and they were wrong. We
Speaker 1: have to do better. She um, we can do better
Speaker 1: as as far as female filmmakers. We have lots of
Speaker 1: alternatives at this point. So he had dinner with her,
Speaker 1: and she told him that the Nazis were on drugs
Speaker 1: all the time, which I think is now sort of
Speaker 1: openly known because of that book blitzed Um. But she
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, like Hitler was on coke all day
Speaker 1: every day, and all the high ranking Nazis were like
Speaker 1: on coke and meth. So I was looking up stuff
Speaker 1: about that, and then I saw that one of the
Speaker 1: other things the Nazi doctors did was they injected Hitler
Speaker 1: with bull semen like that. I don't I think we
Speaker 1: got to this from injections. We've we've gone from zero
Speaker 1: to next ory, Like it's like Peter Teel injecting himself
Speaker 1: with the Virgin blood. Man. This podcast is going to
Speaker 1: get sued by Hulk Hogan too early. We got to
Speaker 1: build up some steam first. That could be really great publicity.
Speaker 1: First episode, we'll all go on trial. Why did they
Speaker 1: inject him with bull semen though, because it was like
Speaker 1: like an aphrodisiac supposedly, because you want an aphrodisiac. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: he just wanted he know, he wanted um. It was
Speaker 1: when he was going to to make love to the
Speaker 1: disgusting Eva Brown, Thank god, disgusting, horrible people. Uh but yeah,
Speaker 1: all the weird all the weird doping. Anyway, I thought
Speaker 1: of that thinking about people injecting themselves and stuff to
Speaker 1: live forever. Would you inject yourself with naked mole rats serum?
Speaker 1: If you thought that, like, would you be you know,
Speaker 1: a test subject for something that could make you basically immortal? No?
Speaker 1: Why would you want to live forever. Sorry, I mean,
Speaker 1: I like, I'm gonna be so tired by the time.
Speaker 1: I'm like whatever age already tired. I'm already trying to
Speaker 1: talk everlasting stance. I suppose sometimes I like hear about
Speaker 1: something that will happen in the far off future and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, thank god, I'll be dead. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that's that's one way in which like your
Speaker 1: average Silicon Valley dude does not like they are not
Speaker 1: like the rest of us guys, They're not like us.
Speaker 1: They also like just got powerful, so they want to
Speaker 1: hang on to like their ability to have sex with women.
Speaker 1: They're having the orgies now, Yeah, their newfound orgy abilities.
Speaker 1: They want to last as long as possible. You know
Speaker 1: what movie I enjoyed and I know Emily enjoyed, and
Speaker 1: I'd love to spend one second talking about. Is the
Speaker 1: movie Paddington Too? Oh ship. Can we do a Paddington
Speaker 1: to transition right now? Just Paddington corner, Paddington Marmalade corner. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're calling an audible. It's Paddington time. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: listen because I haven't seen Padding put Paddington too. Okay, paddingtone,
Speaker 1: great movie, excellent movie. Paddington Too one of the like I,
Speaker 1: I actually feel like it's going to be hard to
Speaker 1: top this year as far as films go. I was
Speaker 1: so delighted by this movie. Why wait, this is so
Speaker 1: mystifying to tell you why. Okay, So my friend was like,
Speaker 1: let's go see Paddington too, and I was missed of fine,
Speaker 1: but I was like, that will be fun. Whatever, I'll
Speaker 1: go see a movie at the Americana. But then, like,
Speaker 1: as the trailers were running, I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: what have I done? Because it was all children's movies trailers,
Speaker 1: so they were all either like insufferably tweet or like
Speaker 1: so grating, and I was like, oh no, like kids
Speaker 1: movies are bad. I don't want to see a kids movie.
Speaker 1: But then Paddington two is like a lovely, delightful movie
Speaker 1: full of British character actors that is not pandering or
Speaker 1: somehow not tweet even though it's Paddington and is just
Speaker 1: a delight and I was like, why is this so good?
Speaker 1: So then I looked it up and it's the guy
Speaker 1: who directed All the Mighty So it's like a British
Speaker 1: alternative comedy but for kids. Uh, it's so good. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: just agree. I mean, yeah, it's just delightful. It's a
Speaker 1: movie that like addresses kids at their level and not
Speaker 1: in not in a way that makes not like more.
Speaker 1: I think that I wrote of a view of it
Speaker 1: and I compared it to like Babe. I think it's
Speaker 1: a comparison point. And also like the Muppet movies, earlier
Speaker 1: Muppet movies where it's just kind of like silly humor.
Speaker 1: None of it is like there's not really like toilet
Speaker 1: humor or anything. It's just like silliness and and silliness
Speaker 1: that that that kids and and adults could appreciate without
Speaker 1: it being like in jokes for the adults and sometimes
Speaker 1: like a little dark um and it all takes place
Speaker 1: on like Portobello Road. It's very charming in every possible way.
Speaker 1: I mean, the best. The main plot point of Paddington
Speaker 1: two is that Paddington goes to jail and he makes
Speaker 1: jail like beautiful. Yeah, he stole a pop up book. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's framed. But it's also it's a great movie because
Speaker 1: it's like against classism. It's like it's an anti Brexit,
Speaker 1: anti Brexit movie, although it does adhere to a false
Speaker 1: immigrant narrative that only the immigrants who accomplish like greaton
Speaker 1: deserved to stay. But it also is like it's about
Speaker 1: like the prisoners, like Paddington's adopted father, human father like
Speaker 1: judges the prisoners. And then like I can't see that
Speaker 1: Hugh Grant, who's the villain, it is amazing, is evil
Speaker 1: because he's posh, you know, yeah, and everyone's like, can't
Speaker 1: you see He's just like a scammer with a posh accent.
Speaker 1: And these prisoners are like good people who didn't deserve
Speaker 1: to go to jail necessarily or who can like get
Speaker 1: out of jail and live lives and you know, redeem themselves. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's such a good movie. It's so good. It's like
Speaker 1: the world is a better place for that movie being around.
Speaker 1: That's and that's about the highest compliment I can give
Speaker 1: to a movie. Yeah. I was like shocked at how
Speaker 1: much I enjoyed it, Like c G I bear, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know about this, but then it's cute,
Speaker 1: very very's cute. Yeah, Okay, Pattington too, Pattington to corner,
Speaker 1: Uh it shut down for this happens. But if I
Speaker 1: have more feelings about Paddington too. I just want to
Speaker 1: talk about how Hugh Grant looks so great. His name
Speaker 1: is Phoenix something. He is an actor and he's a
Speaker 1: master of disguise. Some of the jokes are like silly names. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like he's a he's like a West End actor
Speaker 1: who treads the board. Oh, he's so. But it's also
Speaker 1: like he also has pictures around his house of him
Speaker 1: as a younger, handsomer man. But it's just pictures of
Speaker 1: Hugh Grant. You're just hilarious. Here's what I was going
Speaker 1: to say, is like he looks hot because he doesn't
Speaker 1: look like a botox monster. He has lines, but I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm old, so like I find him hot old now.
Speaker 1: But also creased is creased like slang like thick, Like
Speaker 1: oh man, he creased right now? He create? He creased
Speaker 1: with two d's or maybe like three s and two d.
Speaker 1: It was just very crea face. It's like instead of Zaddi, Yes, yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: because you know, I find Zaddie a little like sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm like I don't know, Oh wait, can we drop
Speaker 1: this out of nowhere? That Molly just made an incredible
Speaker 1: connection between two of our favorite television shows that I
Speaker 1: had not been aware of until Oh, yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: watching Cheers, the prequel to Fraser. Yeah, the famous frequent
Speaker 1: What I was trying to say, Um, it's a good
Speaker 1: film about a good film about a bar an old
Speaker 1: timey illustrations show. Yeah, I always thought that show was about,
Speaker 1: Um it takes place in I'm pretty sure definitely. I
Speaker 1: watched the episode where I've been watching the season where
Speaker 1: Fraser is introduced, which is season three. He's introduced us like,
Speaker 1: and I sort of realized because I've never watched Tears
Speaker 1: all the way through. I've seen like a Cheers Cheers
Speaker 1: here and there, but yeah, I didn't realize how much
Speaker 1: Fraser is just like a al Diane. Yes, they were
Speaker 1: like interest, right, Yeah, they date and he's like the
Speaker 1: the opposite of Sam, who's like the yeah, the sexy playboy.
Speaker 1: He's like more working class or well, no, he was
Speaker 1: a he was an athlete, but he's more like, you know,
Speaker 1: like she was also super about classism among but just
Speaker 1: among like white people in Boston, like slobs versus snobs. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I watched the episode where Fraser's mother appeared
Speaker 1: and realized that his mother who appears in one episode,
Speaker 1: whose name is Hester Crane in the episode, is played
Speaker 1: by Nancy marshand Ak Olivia Soprano. Wait, really yes, that's nuts,
Speaker 1: and it's amazing because she's like she's, you know, Nancy Marshan,
Speaker 1: and she's amazing. She's so interesting because her the mom
Speaker 1: is supposed to be dead in um in Frasier for Fraser,
Speaker 1: but then I don't know if they ever explain that
Speaker 1: or if there's like an event you don't explain it,
Speaker 1: but it could still work with this chronology because the
Speaker 1: mom is like she's she's like a Boston like a
Speaker 1: snotty Boston rich lady I think is the idea. But
Speaker 1: then like she sends Fraser to the bar to get
Speaker 1: a drink, she does, she disappears of Diane because Diane
Speaker 1: is like a lowly barmaid, but she sends Fraser to
Speaker 1: get a drink and that she turns to Diane and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm going to kill you. She says, if
Speaker 1: you don't stop dating my son Frasier, I'm going to
Speaker 1: kill you. And then Diane kind of laughs and she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, I have a gun. It's amazing. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that there's a connection. Like, yeah, so it's all
Speaker 1: one shared everything is on show. It's all one show.
Speaker 1: So speaking of shared universes, I guess we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about Black Mirror. Um. Black Mirror, i'd like to think
Speaker 1: is along with Frasier, a show that it we made popular.
Speaker 1: It's all us, thank you or you're welcome, Charlie Brooker,
Speaker 1: Um we are. Yeah, we'll be expecting our checks in
Speaker 1: the mail. Um. No, but we we used to talk
Speaker 1: about Black Mirror a ton just off of the first
Speaker 1: couple episodes that are in the UK. Um on our
Speaker 1: old podcast Girls and Hoodies on the Grantline network when
Speaker 1: it was available when we end to hop on. We
Speaker 1: got so many frequent flyer miles off of that. Remember
Speaker 1: that you guys so much fun. Yeah no, I got
Speaker 1: I got those upgrades. Um it was great. Um but yeah,
Speaker 1: we so we were we were early appreciators, I would say,
Speaker 1: of the show, and now it's kind of become this
Speaker 1: whole thing. Like the website that I work for, vulture
Speaker 1: dot Com posted around the time that The New Seat,
Speaker 1: the most recent season on Netflix, came out a their
Speaker 1: ranking of the best Black Mirror episodes and it's been
Speaker 1: at the top of the site for like a month now,
Speaker 1: like suddenly Black Mirror is this thing everybody wants to
Speaker 1: talk about or it's like weirdly divisive somehow. Um, but
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about the most recent episodes, even
Speaker 1: though it's a little old, because I know some people
Speaker 1: are catching up to still, myself included, I haven't watched
Speaker 1: all of the Newest Sea. It's never old because it's
Speaker 1: in the future, right, yeah, Which, actually this is an
Speaker 1: interesting question because I feel like there are now at
Speaker 1: this point some Black Mirror episodes that are in the
Speaker 1: past now comparatively well in the past. But it's always
Speaker 1: like just slightly it's supposed to be anywhere from like
Speaker 1: ten minutes in the I think the quote was ten
Speaker 1: if we're messing up, okay, but going with that, if
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister fucked a pig, and we're now in
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister the pig, that's true, that's true, then
Speaker 1: we can lay out where we're mean we kind of are,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I feel like I feel like if
Speaker 1: the equivalent happened, and in the United States, it would
Speaker 1: I mean, our our our president has has symbolically fuck
Speaker 1: to pig, many times over at this point, and and
Speaker 1: we've he's probably also literally that's true. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: we also actually happened. Do you remember when? Uh uh
Speaker 1: oh god, why am I blanking on the Prime Minister's
Speaker 1: name now? But that's what I'm saying. We're in the
Speaker 1: timeline where the thing predicted by Black Mirror actually happens,
Speaker 1: so that all the things predicted by Black Mirror will
Speaker 1: not happen like in a Black Mirror. As an aside,
Speaker 1: may I ask if you guys have favorite episodes of
Speaker 1: Black Mirror, even though with the caveat that you have
Speaker 1: not seen all of them yet from the season, from
Speaker 1: all all time, you can list a few you can
Speaker 1: listen to. My favorite is is um fifteen million merits? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's that one. I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't like it just because of the bike stuff or
Speaker 1: it feels a little too on the nose and everything,
Speaker 1: But um, I think where it gets too at the end,
Speaker 1: about like how it's impossible to actually make protests art
Speaker 1: because it all gets co opted right by capitalism, is
Speaker 1: like completely depressing, but also I think still extremely relevant.
Speaker 1: Um and Daniel Coluia, isn't it? And the Oscar nominated
Speaker 1: Daniel Caluya isn't it and he is great? Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that episode. It's it's like totally I don't know,
Speaker 1: I feel all of it, all of its points. Molly,
Speaker 1: do you have one? I like that one where the
Speaker 1: guy breaks his glasses and then he can't read any
Speaker 1: of the books. All the Time in the World, the
Speaker 1: classic nineteen sis is Black Mirror. I forget that guy's name.
Speaker 1: I used to remember that episode. I had memorized it
Speaker 1: was all the Time in the World. Um okay. I
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna propose Basically, there were a bunch of
Speaker 1: articles on this. There's one from Wired by Miranda Cats
Speaker 1: that kind of posets that were, you know, reaching like
Speaker 1: the singularity. So it says um that since the purchase
Speaker 1: from Netflix, Black Mirror has begun to chip away at
Speaker 1: its episodic edges. And basically, you know, there is some
Speaker 1: kind of like unifying universe. It's not just you know,
Speaker 1: an anthology. Really, it kind of all belongs to its
Speaker 1: own universe. And there are all these Easter eggs and
Speaker 1: stuff that are sprinkled throughout and I think particularly in
Speaker 1: the fourth season, especially most obviously in the finale, UM,
Speaker 1: which is the Black Museum. They kind of go through
Speaker 1: and and link a bunch of things. But there was
Speaker 1: this super interesting UM article on screen Crush by e.
Speaker 1: Oliver Whitney, and the proposal is the chronological list of
Speaker 1: episodes that begins with national Anthem, which is obviously the
Speaker 1: pig fucking if you will, and yeah, I will, maybe
Speaker 1: that we dropped those kind of things in our first
Speaker 1: episode of our podcast UM, but yeah, it's it's really
Speaker 1: interesting because a lot of the chronology, like a lot
Speaker 1: of this hypothesis rests on a news ticker that shows
Speaker 1: up in episodes like a US all the seasons, where
Speaker 1: you know, there will be like a news broadcast in
Speaker 1: the background of whatever is going on, and if you
Speaker 1: read the news ticker, it'll reference UM incidents that have
Speaker 1: happened in other episodes. You can kind of loosely place
Speaker 1: them on a timeline. This isn't this isn't Black Museum.
Speaker 1: This happens No, so this is actually there's there are.
Speaker 1: The news tickers are like in all sorts, in all
Speaker 1: different episodes. The Black Museum basically spoilers go away spoilers
Speaker 1: if you have them. Okay, well, I'll just say that
Speaker 1: The Black Museum is essentially a tour of the future
Speaker 1: created by Black Mirror Um. But but it is not
Speaker 1: the last episode of you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's not the final episode in the timeline. It could
Speaker 1: be the series finale though, yes, but there's a but
Speaker 1: there's a more. There's one that's further in the future
Speaker 1: that would you know, probably if you're if you kind
Speaker 1: of look into the world that it takes place in.
Speaker 1: But basically it's what does it say, is the further
Speaker 1: in the future. Okay, so the furthest in the future
Speaker 1: is metal Head. Okay, did you see metal Head? No?
Speaker 1: But I know what it's about. Yeah, it's it's one
Speaker 1: of the most dystopian. That's the one that's shot in
Speaker 1: black and white. It's about like robot dogs and there's
Speaker 1: something of like the ones that are shot in black
Speaker 1: and white or maybe later or no, not later, but
Speaker 1: there they might indicate that the people you're seeing are
Speaker 1: actually digital copies. Can I can I submit an opinion
Speaker 1: right now please that I think that this is like
Speaker 1: the least interesting thing to talk about with Black Mirror,
Speaker 1: like the idea of a chronology with I agree. I
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it's the least interesting thing
Speaker 1: that I think it's totally interesting, but I also think
Speaker 1: that like it's like a goof though on the part
Speaker 1: of Brooker, Like it's it's like I don't feel like
Speaker 1: it's like getting to the soul of why the show
Speaker 1: is or what it's doing, but it's like it's totally
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that people will get obsessed with
Speaker 1: on the internet, Like it's it's kind of person I mean,
Speaker 1: there are definitely easter eggs in this season, especially in
Speaker 1: Back Museum. It's like a museum of artifacts, and there
Speaker 1: are just artifacts in the background that are things from
Speaker 1: other episodes. Uh, but like that that I haven't seen
Speaker 1: that episode yet, but that like worries, Like I in general,
Speaker 1: I love I love Black Mirror. I'm like, I'll defend
Speaker 1: it against the haters or whatever, but like when it
Speaker 1: gets up its own ask too much, that's when I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like, I totally agree. I I did not
Speaker 1: think that Black Museum was one of the strongest episodes.
Speaker 1: I actually thought that this was the weakest season, but
Speaker 1: I still loved it a lot. But I think what's
Speaker 1: actually more interesting than figuring out that chronology is basically,
Speaker 1: you know, there are these different kinds of you know,
Speaker 1: technological gadgets or whatever, a contact lens that then becomes
Speaker 1: something that's a grain implanted in the brain and all that.
Speaker 1: So I guess what's interesting about it is not really
Speaker 1: just trying to say, oh, it's a it's a linear
Speaker 1: story of what happens, but basically, like, where does Charlie
Speaker 1: Brooker see the technology if it all belongs to the
Speaker 1: same universe, and how does the progression kind of go? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it belongs to this universe in that
Speaker 1: it's like the universe in Charlie Brooker's brain. Ye, are
Speaker 1: certain things that just obviously, like, you know, I think
Speaker 1: he's a genius, and I think that it's amazing he's
Speaker 1: come up with like a million new concepts for all
Speaker 1: these episodes. But I also like to think that there
Speaker 1: are probably limitations, you know, or just that because of
Speaker 1: how the brain works, you're going to repeat ideas or
Speaker 1: and it'll be skewed like he is. Like I didn't
Speaker 1: see if he I when I first watched the first
Speaker 1: episode of the season, the U S S. Calister, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that it was one of his But then
Speaker 1: as it went on. I was like, this is like
Speaker 1: a total like written interacted. Well, it's about that episode
Speaker 1: because I think we all watched that. I think that
Speaker 1: was maybe the best episode. That episode is great and
Speaker 1: I was so encouraged by that because I really didn't
Speaker 1: like the last season very well at all. You didn't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I thought a lot of I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just thought a lot of the production values seemed
Speaker 1: off and there was a little too much of the
Speaker 1: like as your mind blown by by how awful the
Speaker 1: world is type style, from being like a BBC show
Speaker 1: or Channel four or whatever it was to being a
Speaker 1: Netflix show. So it got like a big budget and
Speaker 1: sometimes I do feel like when people get a big
Speaker 1: budget and they can do too many things, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you actually worked better with limitations. Yeah. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: felt like it then got like people really like, um,
Speaker 1: what's it called Santo Well, no, I love Santipo. Santiairo
Speaker 1: is great, but but what's the one the one with
Speaker 1: Bryce Stylas Howard and it? Yeah, okay, so that one
Speaker 1: is I just feel like it looks bad, like it
Speaker 1: doesn't and the idea of it, like the I feel
Speaker 1: like that episode is the kind of thing that people
Speaker 1: are making fun of when they make fun of Black Mirror,
Speaker 1: because it's like, I don't know, it's like the computers,
Speaker 1: but what if too much type thing? Uh? And I
Speaker 1: really liked play tests. I loved play actually, and I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about it a lot. Uh. I like to
Speaker 1: play test, and I was thinking about it a lot
Speaker 1: after the Logan Paul suicide forest scandal, thank God, because
Speaker 1: I was like, that is what he deserves. And also
Speaker 1: he's the same kind of like blonde American doo fiend,
Speaker 1: like trap you in a video game forever for being
Speaker 1: the worst person in the world. Yeah. Now. I also
Speaker 1: I watched that episode on a big screen, and I
Speaker 1: feel like it made a big difference. Scared the funk
Speaker 1: out of me. But also I was like scanning the
Speaker 1: frame the whole time, like in a horror jump out
Speaker 1: video or video game where you're just like looking for
Speaker 1: something scary to click on. I think that that was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite episodes last season two. I think
Speaker 1: like the low point is something like um, shut up
Speaker 1: in Dance, which is just like it's just that's sort
Speaker 1: of like White Bear, which I've come around a little
Speaker 1: bit on White bear, but I still don't really like
Speaker 1: it that much because it scared me the first time.
Speaker 1: I feel scary, but I feel like dance. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot it because I got tricked. But there's
Speaker 1: a really it's not a good trick because it never
Speaker 1: lays the track. Yeah, I didn't see it, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't see it coming because they never gave a
Speaker 1: hint about it. They did because his sister walks in
Speaker 1: on a masturbating and he's really embarrassed, and you think
Speaker 1: it's just because he's masturbating, but then you realized later
Speaker 1: it's because he was masturbating the child porn. Well, it's
Speaker 1: fucking it's mental in it. It's a mental mentor with
Speaker 1: the w There's a very very bleak episode this season.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have seen Crocodile. I
Speaker 1: really liked that one. Oh I couldn't handle Crocodile. It
Speaker 1: was like it yourself over the head. I mean twist
Speaker 1: at the end that's like a little too stupid. It's
Speaker 1: just so it's so depressed. Also, like sometimes those twists,
Speaker 1: because like sometimes the really bleak twists are just really funny,
Speaker 1: you know, But what what was the O No, don't
Speaker 1: tell me to twist and but I don't. But I
Speaker 1: did watch Crocodile. I just can't really remember it because
Speaker 1: I didn't really think it was that interesting. But that's
Speaker 1: the one with the insurance woman who had and they
Speaker 1: can no wait but seriously spoilers serious. She murders the
Speaker 1: baby because she thinks it saw her murder someone else,
Speaker 1: but then the baby was blind. Yeah, that's stupid. That's
Speaker 1: a guinea pig. A guinea pig saw her. It brings
Speaker 1: us back to Rodents by the way. Yeah, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: that episode I didn't like a lot. That Also, side
Speaker 1: note that song um anyone who knows what love is
Speaker 1: Thomas has been everywhere lately, and that that that episode
Speaker 1: had a lot of repetition of it. It also was
Speaker 1: in fifteen million merits and another episode. There was in
Speaker 1: two episodes this season, I think, and fifteen million merits
Speaker 1: and maybe even another episode at some point. The funniest
Speaker 1: thing about Crocodile is that it's arts out with like
Speaker 1: her meeting a guy right before they commit a murder,
Speaker 1: and it's like a party scene with like a Goldfrapp song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which made me laugh a lot because I'm like Charlie Brooker,
Speaker 1: like there's so much stuff about the two thousands in
Speaker 1: Black Mirror, Like it was clearly a formative time for him,
Speaker 1: and he's maybe the only other person nostalgic for it
Speaker 1: besides Emily. Hey, I mean, I'm I'm I'm lukewarmon Goldfrap.
Speaker 1: But that was supposed to take place in the two thousands,
Speaker 1: I feel like because but I just love that they
Speaker 1: like to be like, hey, black Blockhouse pasts are the
Speaker 1: shadowy Black House past. People are always having like fond
Speaker 1: memories on Black Mirror of things taking place in the
Speaker 1: two thousand's. Well maybe it's because it's like making fun
Speaker 1: of our own nostalgia and just being like, no, you
Speaker 1: should be nostalgic for right now because it's about to
Speaker 1: get so bad. She should enjoy it. Um, but we
Speaker 1: should talk about us this calister, because I think we
Speaker 1: all liked it. And I think what I liked about
Speaker 1: it is that like it neither did the Because I
Speaker 1: was watching it, and I was watching it with my
Speaker 1: fiance and we were and he's like he has something
Speaker 1: like are they you know, how is she going to
Speaker 1: get out? Or she is she going to get out
Speaker 1: of like because she gets basically put into this, she
Speaker 1: gets a copy of herself made the main character like
Speaker 1: the protagonist um in this guy's simulation. UM. And I
Speaker 1: was like, she's not going to get out. It's an
Speaker 1: episode of Black Mirror that everything ends poorly for everybody,
Speaker 1: and it neither disproved that nor approved Like it was
Speaker 1: like an I thought I did. It was right in
Speaker 1: between in a way that I thought was interesting and
Speaker 1: didn't seem coming see coming the ending of it. And
Speaker 1: it's also like actually really funny. Um, the whole well
Speaker 1: also was funny. Was that Jesse Clemens, who has played
Speaker 1: I believe both Uh he does like Philip Symore Hoffman
Speaker 1: and Matt Damon in that episode. Yes, that's such a
Speaker 1: good call. Right, but shout out to my husband who
Speaker 1: called it and then continued to call it three ten
Speaker 1: seconds throughout the episode. Right. Uh. And that episode does
Speaker 1: a really good job of like setting him up as
Speaker 1: like the nerd you feel bad for and then twisting
Speaker 1: the knife to be like, don't feel bad for him.
Speaker 1: It's a sick reversal. It's really well done. Good Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: all nerdman. It's like a gamer Gate episode it's also
Speaker 1: just beautiful because they so much effort went into making
Speaker 1: the fake merchandise for the fake show. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 1: was very like I think when I heard like there's
Speaker 1: a Star Trek episode, I was definitely not like, oh
Speaker 1: I'm chopping at the Yeah I did. Do you guys
Speaker 1: think it's the end of the that the finale was
Speaker 1: the series finale? You guys think Steth McFarlane and Star
Speaker 1: Trek parody show is just like his simulation where he
Speaker 1: he definitely has a simulation that he has like every
Speaker 1: single like dumb starlet who has ever been dumb enough
Speaker 1: to get an ice scan a retinal scan by him.
Speaker 1: They live in there forever. Uh yeah, or no, it
Speaker 1: was a DNA sample, that's what it was. Oh yeah
Speaker 1: from a lollipop a lollipop. Yeah, oh yeah. And also like, um,
Speaker 1: what's his face Jimmy Simpson shout out to Jimmy Simpson
Speaker 1: bean and everything the sci fi sci fi scream king. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's great. I I love he was great too, because
Speaker 1: he was very good as like the dick guy at work.
Speaker 1: You're then like, maybe he's just friendly other guys a dick. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I I really like see the Kirsten Dunes cameo. No,
Speaker 1: she's in the office because she is engaged to Jesse
Speaker 1: Plummin's in real life, so she just did like a cameo.
Speaker 1: She looks walks by, she's in the background, and like
Speaker 1: the office, one of the office scenes, it's full of
Speaker 1: it has so many Easter eggs. It's almost like it's
Speaker 1: almost too much, too many eggs too, it's too it's
Speaker 1: an embarrassment. I agree that I think that like making
Speaker 1: the connections is not as fun as like thinking about
Speaker 1: all the things they could be, you know. That was
Speaker 1: like the big true detective thing was like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: fun to like try to solve this mystery, but like
Speaker 1: solving the mysteries maybe not actually that fun. And I
Speaker 1: also think with Black Mirror that like at its best,
Speaker 1: what it does is like open the portal to a
Speaker 1: weird other universe than their universe that we sort of
Speaker 1: live in already. Um. I just I get very frustrated
Speaker 1: with a lot of aspects of the backlash on Black
Speaker 1: Mirror because I think a lot of the criticism is
Speaker 1: done by people, especially like when it's happening on Twitter,
Speaker 1: like it's happening it's like it's like people saying L
Speaker 1: O L like how uncool to be too critical or
Speaker 1: you know, um second guessing our nature as far as
Speaker 1: our addiction to technology, or like our rely on sound technology,
Speaker 1: and there's like, no, there's such a knee jerk defensiveness
Speaker 1: about it. I feel like because people don't want to
Speaker 1: think about like not using their phone. Yeah, there's that
Speaker 1: Charlie Brooker quote that I love about how phones are
Speaker 1: like the new cigarettes, where it's like, except instead of
Speaker 1: taking five minutes off the end of your life, it
Speaker 1: takes five minutes out off your life right now. Because
Speaker 1: you're just like that is it's so good because it's true.
Speaker 1: It's like every minute you spend like staring at your
Speaker 1: screen is like a minute you're not really experiencing reality,
Speaker 1: And like we all you know, definitely, I was a
Speaker 1: person who was always like I can multitask. I love
Speaker 1: to like read a magazine while watching TV with a computer.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how you don't actually get any of them? Then? No,
Speaker 1: but I would get them all because I was getting
Speaker 1: them because if they're all like superficially administered things, you
Speaker 1: can get them all on a super fo Yeah. But honestly,
Speaker 1: like all I'm I'm such an asshole. All I can
Speaker 1: talk about is like, oh, I quit Twitter, and now
Speaker 1: I just like get a sunset. But it's like a
Speaker 1: little bit true. I'm like, I don't I don't miss it.
Speaker 1: And when I first got off it, it was so
Speaker 1: like quitting smoking. It's really hard. Yeah. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: like clicking picking up my phone every second to open
Speaker 1: Twitter and then like smoking, It's like if I stopped
Speaker 1: doing it for long enough, I didn't it make me
Speaker 1: like sick if I do it again. I mean I
Speaker 1: kind of I quit for a while and then I
Speaker 1: ended up coming back to it, but um, and I still,
Speaker 1: you know, use it and check up, but not a lot.
Speaker 1: And this past week, while I was one working really
Speaker 1: like doing a ton of work and had a ton
Speaker 1: of stuff I needed to work on, and also I
Speaker 1: was hanging out with people in Los Angeles and actually
Speaker 1: like seeing people face to face, and I was like, huh,
Speaker 1: funny how when you actually have stuff to do, and
Speaker 1: you know, spent and put put time into seeing people
Speaker 1: face to face, you never actually want to look at Twitter,
Speaker 1: like like it was like the least interesting thing I
Speaker 1: could think of. Um, but apparently that's like it's like
Speaker 1: dorky to be I don't know, like anti Twitter now
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know. I think it's just like
Speaker 1: talking about these things as addictive substances is like not cool,
Speaker 1: even though like it wasn't video game addiction, just like
Speaker 1: added to the DSM or something. Yeah, like it's real.
Speaker 1: There are people who like go to the hospital because
Speaker 1: they can't stop playing Call of Duty. Like it's not common,
Speaker 1: but like you know, on a certain level, everyone is
Speaker 1: addicted to phones at this point. And I remember just
Speaker 1: like crossing that bridge and being like I don't want
Speaker 1: to be one of these people who's like looking at
Speaker 1: their phone everywhere they go, and then just becoming one. No.
Speaker 1: I mean now, I just feel like every single day
Speaker 1: I'll be going I'll be eating somewhere, like you know,
Speaker 1: getting lunch somewhere, and I see some family, like a
Speaker 1: family of tourists or something in New York that are
Speaker 1: at a restaurant or cafe or whatever, and they're all
Speaker 1: they're just sitting there and they're all on their phones
Speaker 1: and they're not even looking at each other, talking or
Speaker 1: doing anything during their entire meal. And it's just like
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that, and maybe it's it
Speaker 1: sounds so crunchy and dumb to like, I don't know
Speaker 1: be critical of that, but I think that that's like
Speaker 1: a like an objectively poor quality of life. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like it's okay to get back in touch with
Speaker 1: our inner like Adbusters, because like the future like fucking
Speaker 1: Google sponsoring Calico and stuff like that. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: science shouldn't be like made by private companies that own
Speaker 1: everything and are then going to own how to live
Speaker 1: forever and can sell it to the richest people and
Speaker 1: nobody else. Like it also got it's so oppressively sad
Speaker 1: over the past year because it used to be that
Speaker 1: when you would be checking Twitter all the time, like
Speaker 1: the sadness would be kind of levied by like a
Speaker 1: lot of silly stuff. But we're all kind of beaten
Speaker 1: down and the shells of ourselves. I guess some people
Speaker 1: have turned on Black Mirror because they don't like watching
Speaker 1: something so bleak, because it's like not escapist anymore. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I do feel that way about like a number
Speaker 1: of dystopian things where you're like, oh, the dystopia is
Speaker 1: real now, so like what do we put in our dystopias?
Speaker 1: Like I saw Emily and I were talking about the
Speaker 1: new Purge movie Perge Fan Perch five Fan Emily o Chida.
Speaker 1: It's called the First Perch. They just the First Purge,
Speaker 1: And I saw the poster is like, make America the
Speaker 1: Purge again. Well they have the It's like the poster,
Speaker 1: the teaser poster is the red Hat but it says, um,
Speaker 1: I forget what it says. Yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: it just says the First Purge on it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, it's like, how do you you know, what
Speaker 1: do you want in a sci fi universe when the
Speaker 1: world feels so sci fi? Well, the other thing and
Speaker 1: then we should probably move on, is I And I
Speaker 1: don't want to second guess how people are reading the thing,
Speaker 1: like you can read it however you want. But I
Speaker 1: do think that there's this tendency to think that that
Speaker 1: Brooker is being like so dead serious or like, um,
Speaker 1: like there's a period at the end of every sentence
Speaker 1: of Black Mirror when I feel like it's mostly ellipses,
Speaker 1: like it's it's a lot of just like like spitballing,
Speaker 1: and like what if this one thing that we had
Speaker 1: like like a few iterations later, what would it look
Speaker 1: like it's all kind of questions, and I think that
Speaker 1: a lot of people are taking it as statements and
Speaker 1: like as as objective facts that he's laying out about tech,
Speaker 1: and it's it's I feel like it's much more speculative
Speaker 1: than declarative. Yeah, that's speculative based on stuff that will
Speaker 1: already exists, and maybe some people just don't want to
Speaker 1: think about, like how is that the logical extension of
Speaker 1: this thing I'm already doing. Yeah, And you know, we all,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, let our phones just listen to
Speaker 1: us all the time, every day and then wait till
Speaker 1: we do the Instagram is spying on us special we're
Speaker 1: gonna get kicked off the audio Boom network with a quickness.
Speaker 1: So we should wait for a year to do that.
Speaker 1: Let's just get I should say, though, if if you
Speaker 1: have conspiracy theories about your phone listening to you, or
Speaker 1: you have evidence to back at call one to four
Speaker 1: oh four six night to two four oh four six
Speaker 1: six four four four eight. We each have our own
Speaker 1: like anecdotal evidence of that. But I'm always looking at
Speaker 1: And that was the thing where like no one believed me,
Speaker 1: and then people have come to me constantly being like,
Speaker 1: you were right, my phone is listening to me even
Speaker 1: when Instagram is not open, because I get served ads
Speaker 1: for things I was just talking about. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm starting to get so paranoid
Speaker 1: that sometimes I'm like, am I getting ads for things
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about? WHOA? And then but or like
Speaker 1: something I looked at a sign but didn't like and
Speaker 1: then somebody was like, told me who worked in That
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, they just like they serve you
Speaker 1: ads based on where you go. Also, because it's like
Speaker 1: and that's how I started getting ads for this shop.
Speaker 1: I went into exactly once and never never ordered from,
Speaker 1: never searched, never anything, and then I started getting ads
Speaker 1: for it all the time because I went into it once. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fun stuff. So once again you and leave us a message,
Speaker 1: give us a call at one two four oh four
Speaker 1: six night two four oh four six six four four eight,
Speaker 1: and we have our first call, our first ever night
Speaker 1: call this week, coming from friends of the pod and
Speaker 1: fellow Audio Boom podcasters David Sims and Griffin Newman from
Speaker 1: the blank Check Podcast. Um so let's hear. Let's hear
Speaker 1: what they have to say. Hey, this is Griffin a man? Hey,
Speaker 1: this is David Simms. We're from blank Check with Griffin
Speaker 1: David um and of course we we recently heard on
Speaker 1: Molly Slecy friends. Um. The question was raised the episode
Speaker 1: that you guys were all on which Zodiac character? Would
Speaker 1: you be? Right? You got which member of the zodiac? Calendar? No,
Speaker 1: not know which sign the Fincher film Zodiac? Which character
Speaker 1: are you a rough Falow? Are you with Downey Jr?
Speaker 1: Or character name Shorthand? So that's that's our question to
Speaker 1: you guys, Please answer it now. So we never really
Speaker 1: did get to the bottom of it though. Who we
Speaker 1: are from Zodiac? Are we in Avery? Are we green Smith? Wait?
Speaker 1: Is that his name? Green Smith? Smith? Gray Smith, Greensmith,
Speaker 1: Um gray Smith or taski um a k a. The
Speaker 1: Roppa Downi Jr. The Jake Jillen Hall and the Mark
Speaker 1: Ruffalo of the film. I don't know what are you
Speaker 1: guys feeling? What's your sign? What's your Zodiac? I like
Speaker 1: how it seems like someone's asking us which one of
Speaker 1: us is the zodiac? So which of you is responsible
Speaker 1: for the murders? Which which murder did you? Which did
Speaker 1: you commit? Because obviously we know that they weren't all
Speaker 1: the same person. So um uh, Well, I said, because
Speaker 1: Tess just showed up here today with a stack of
Speaker 1: papers printed out from the Internet, and I decided that
Speaker 1: means that she's the Robert gray Smith. And I just
Speaker 1: took that well, because he's the one who like does
Speaker 1: all the research and has all the papers, all the finals.
Speaker 1: He's a doodler. Yeah, he's a doodler. I'm a doodler.
Speaker 1: And Molly, uh, Emily, you expressed an affinity for Ruffalo. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm Mark Ruffalo in most movies
Speaker 1: if he shows up, so I and I do think.
Speaker 1: I do think in this case too, especially when I
Speaker 1: was an editor, I feel like you have to be
Speaker 1: the no fund person a lot. And so I had
Speaker 1: sympathy for Tuski because he's like a detective and he's
Speaker 1: not like he doesn't get to have crazy conspiracies or
Speaker 1: like go on crazy benders like like Rabbit Towny Junior does.
Speaker 1: He kind of has to just like be a regular
Speaker 1: detective and like carry out the you know, he gets
Speaker 1: to wear a cool side arm though, right, like he
Speaker 1: does like a cool gun holster. Yeah, and he has
Speaker 1: good ties. He has bow ties. I like his style
Speaker 1: a lot, probably of all of them. Um. I really
Speaker 1: like tsky style. Um. I do like how he kind
Speaker 1: of as as things go on and as gray Smith
Speaker 1: kind of takes the case into his own hands. I
Speaker 1: love the way that he sort of um secretively aids
Speaker 1: him by like saying, well, I didn't tell you this,
Speaker 1: but blah blah blah. Um so yeah, oh yeah, he
Speaker 1: loves animals. Well, that's like such a that's I that's
Speaker 1: such a sticky thing. Like it's so it feels like
Speaker 1: something from another movie, like oh, this cop he's got
Speaker 1: his a real hanker. And for animal crackers. It's also
Speaker 1: like a Columbo totally yeah. Um yeah. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have a soft spot for Tausky and I feel
Speaker 1: like nobody else would pick them. Also, so my friends
Speaker 1: have a Columbo party. Apparently every year it's a Columbo
Speaker 1: Halloween party where everyone just comestressed as Colombo great and
Speaker 1: this year it was apparently Columbo or Mark Ruffalone Zodiac. Um.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is all pointing towards Molly being avery,
Speaker 1: which I think is uh. I mean, I I know
Speaker 1: you want that house boat, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: be the Robert Downey Junior character in Anything. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean me too, but when I'm honest until up until
Speaker 1: Iron Man, at which point I don't care anymore. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be an arms dealer, No, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be an arms dealer superhero. I want to
Speaker 1: d D militarized. What's your favorite? What's your favorite Downy?
Speaker 1: Is it this one or I mean there's just a
Speaker 1: string of performances where he's so amazing starting with less
Speaker 1: than zero zero R d J is not too shabby himself. Um,
Speaker 1: and uh you know Chaplain is a good movie. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed him in Wonder Boys. Right Sunday, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about Tough Turf on here, like a whole episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tough Turf I own on VHS. The Best Guy to
Speaker 1: It's got Kim Richards with like amazing Barbie hair, dancing
Speaker 1: on tabletops and eater eight or so much Spader in spades.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, now that movie is is a masterpiece. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just you know, I love Kis Kiss Bang Bang.
Speaker 1: There's just a long, a long period where he's really
Speaker 1: great and everything U and then you had that last
Speaker 1: little come back and now he makes marvel movies. I
Speaker 1: don't care, but he could always do something Judge Passion projects. Um,
Speaker 1: so I think that's it. I think that's our that's
Speaker 1: our our final answer. Molly is Avery, test is gray Smith,
Speaker 1: and I'm TASKI And that's it. There's no more argument
Speaker 1: that it's settled. So there's a murder that you need solved,
Speaker 1: then I think we can handle it on the podcast
Speaker 1: pretty easily because with our resources, experience and like we're
Speaker 1: we don't care about confidentiality at all or like not
Speaker 1: discussing things on podcasts that should not be discussed on podcast.
Speaker 1: So we'll totally like solve a murder on podcast. You can, Yeah, yes, cereal,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get sued by so many people. Um No,
Speaker 1: don't even bring that into into the sphere here, toy, toy, toy.
Speaker 1: So that does it for this first episode of Nightcall.
Speaker 1: And once again, please give us your night calls at
Speaker 1: one to four oh four six six four four four eight.
Speaker 1: That's one to four oh four six night. Um. We'll
Speaker 1: be back next week talking about who Knows what. And
Speaker 1: once again, I am Emily Rashida, and I'm Molly Lambert
Speaker 1: and I'm tes Lynch. We'll see you all on the
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