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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Friday. What a great group this day,
Speaker 2: this week, here at the bar. I'd say this crowd
Speaker 2: is top three that we've had this week. Top three. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: we're here at the bar. It is a Friday, it's
Speaker 2: a meat Friday. We travel with our triggers. We got wings, flats,
Speaker 2: only cheese, kurds, and broad to as it better than
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 3: There you go. I love that.
Speaker 2: Marvin just admitted to me that he wasn't quite sure
Speaker 2: about Colston Loveland last night when he was introduced, and
Speaker 2: you did a double take.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yesterday.
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting next to PAULI and they say, oh,
Speaker 4: with the tenth pick the bear select Coaston Loveland. Okay,
Speaker 4: you know, congrats, never really seen him before. Wait, Coaston Loveland,
Speaker 4: he's why.
Speaker 2: Margots, he's white, Mark, I know. Marvin goes, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: his name is Colston Loveland.
Speaker 4: Look, there's an eighty seven year old black man somewhere
Speaker 4: named Colston Loveland. I'm looking at him like this twenty
Speaker 4: one year old white dude from Idaho. I was like, man,
Speaker 4: anything's possible. That was a real James of Virginia moment,
Speaker 4: like Colston Loveland. I was like, all right, man, and
Speaker 4: I thought he's got to be the third because his
Speaker 4: grandfather's Colston.
Speaker 2: But Marvin thought the wrong guy came out and he's
Speaker 2: the Michigan tight end.
Speaker 3: And you know, he got a picture up.
Speaker 4: I was like, graphics, somebody's in trouble. Somebody's getting yelled
Speaker 4: at in the production truck right now.
Speaker 3: Your look. Oh it was so good. He's white.
Speaker 5: It was a very James in Virginia moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like, oh, good morning, brother, Who the
Speaker 4: hell said that?
Speaker 6: That was you?
Speaker 5: I like you.
Speaker 2: I like for years when you were answering phone calls
Speaker 2: and James and Virginia would call in, you'd be talking
Speaker 2: about out black history mods.
Speaker 6: Like brother, man, you too, Hey did not go stop us.
Speaker 6: Let's break stereotype.
Speaker 3: Baby, all right, I'm gonna put you on hold.
Speaker 6: I told my wife at home.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, they got a couple of black hollers,
Speaker 4: I said, James Virginia, James of Virginia, worst at ups.
Speaker 3: Like, man, he got a good ass job.
Speaker 5: Man, good for you.
Speaker 4: Man, got your pension, you got Jeff and Detroit. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, let's go I was like, all right, fellas,
Speaker 4: and then came up.
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa James James Virginia sent in a video,
Speaker 2: but he's with two black guys. So Marvin thinks that
Speaker 2: one of the guys is James in Virginia. And then
Speaker 2: James and Virginia started talking and Marvin goes.
Speaker 6: Why I put an emphasis on the age.
Speaker 3: I'm like, he's.
Speaker 4: Why, Like, damn man, all right, anything's possible.
Speaker 2: Oh, We'll got two more phone calls coming up each
Speaker 2: seven seven three DP show Tom Petl Cerro NFL Network
Speaker 2: insider will join us coming up.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: If I'm ESPN or.
Speaker 2: NFL Network today, I'm probably hoping Shaudoor Sanders goes the
Speaker 2: first pick in the second round, so it's not hanging
Speaker 2: there because if he starts to slide a little bit.
Speaker 2: Melt Kiper was apoplectic last night that Shaudoor Sanders wasn't
Speaker 2: taken in the first round. This is where let's get
Speaker 2: it out of the way and then we can cover
Speaker 2: the draft, because if not, it's just going to hang there.
Speaker 2: And Cleveland's got the first pick in the second round.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up taking him,
Speaker 2: all right, pull question for the final hour of the
Speaker 2: program is going to be what we do have rhyme
Speaker 2: time with Fritzy. We Now that's risky because you've had
Speaker 2: a pretty good week and is there rhyming in rhyme time?
Speaker 7: This time around, it's packers related, being that we're here
Speaker 7: in Green Bay. Only one of the answers is an
Speaker 7: actual rhyme. The rest of the answers are the names
Speaker 7: of current or warmer packers. They're all I wanted to
Speaker 7: do something Green Bay related, and you can't really rhyme
Speaker 7: names that way, so I went a little off the
Speaker 7: boards to do something unique.
Speaker 2: Since we're in town, we'll give us a for instance here.
Speaker 2: Just the audience will know what's going to happen.
Speaker 7: Okay, an example would be gump hot dogs. Gump hot dogs,
Speaker 7: and again the answer is not a rhyme. These two
Speaker 7: words will not rhyme.
Speaker 3: So Forrest greg Or, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Bubba Franks, that would be Bubba Frank.
Speaker 7: Bubba Gumps would be Bubba.
Speaker 3: I was doing Forrest Gump.
Speaker 7: So all these answers will have names of packers and
Speaker 7: the clues.
Speaker 3: Will Okay, get there. Wow, exciting. That is really exciting. Risky.
Speaker 3: It is very risky, but exciting.
Speaker 5: What's the worst that can happen?
Speaker 8: I get bored and I get we're gonna make fun
Speaker 8: of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably for the first time, be abused.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We also have fill in the blank that we'll play
Speaker 2: as well. So the poll question for the final hour
Speaker 2: the program is going to be one.
Speaker 3: Right now, we've got up there long term, who made
Speaker 3: the better move?
Speaker 9: The Browns are the Jaguar Right now fifty eight percent
Speaker 9: have the Jaguars.
Speaker 3: And then we.
Speaker 9: Also have up there who will be the NFL Rookie
Speaker 9: of the Year cam Ward Travis Hunter, Ashton genty right
Speaker 9: now fifty seven percent with Travis Hunter forty three percent
Speaker 9: with Ashton genty zero percent cam Whard, oh zero, zero
Speaker 9: point zero.
Speaker 3: That's no great point average, all right.
Speaker 10: Paul, I'm prepared to pie to the face for Omarion
Speaker 10: Hampton of the Chargers against the field.
Speaker 3: For Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you owe me a pie to the
Speaker 2: face for do or say yes?
Speaker 6: I think five and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so two pies or none, I'm gonna I'll double
Speaker 2: up there, you go, that's fine, Yeah, I'll double up
Speaker 2: with a pie to the face. Yeah, Paulie had we
Speaker 2: established it five and a half.
Speaker 6: I'm still holding on to it. I gues five and
Speaker 6: half of the second, second.
Speaker 3: Round, second round.
Speaker 2: Let me see Celtic's magic tonight, Pacers, Bucks Lakers at
Speaker 2: the timberwill in other sports news. Let me do some
Speaker 2: fill in the blank here, PAULI sent this to me.
Speaker 2: Cam Ward will be uh blank Marvin Titan. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean that's fair, Todd.
Speaker 7: I put Titan to remember. I went Titan as well.
Speaker 7: He will be a Titan in the industry.
Speaker 2: Okay, Seaton number one overall pick forever.
Speaker 3: Okay, Paul.
Speaker 6: Pro bowler for a second.
Speaker 2: Team, his second team, not Tennessee.
Speaker 6: Nah, it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter will be a blank Marvin culture changer.
Speaker 3: Okay, Todd, due valuable player.
Speaker 5: You will be a due valuable player.
Speaker 3: You could throw away the entire week, this final hour,
Speaker 3: just say you build up, build up a lot of
Speaker 3: credibil all my chips in.
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, once again, I tell you we don't
Speaker 2: punch you.
Speaker 3: You walk right into the fist. Travis Hut will be
Speaker 3: a d no valuable play we got. I like I
Speaker 3: like the effort, Todd.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to be creative. It doesn't always work out
Speaker 6: as funny.
Speaker 9: Is that I'm really more. I'm not even really supporting Todd.
Speaker 9: I'm just needling you because I know you know what.
Speaker 3: You just stop thinking.
Speaker 5: Travis Hutter will be very good. What do you help
Speaker 5: me to say? I thought it we had to put
Speaker 5: a little something behind it, little something clever. Okay, will
Speaker 5: be you and a cornish That was the other thing
Speaker 5: I was gonna go with. That's not anything. Travis Harder
Speaker 5: will be fantastic. Where does that get you? Doesn't get
Speaker 5: you anyway.
Speaker 10: Paul Travis Hunter will be a TV schedule changer. The
Speaker 10: Jaguars will get three primetime games next year.
Speaker 3: Schador Sanders will be uh blank Marvin.
Speaker 5: Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 3: It said, well, I know I wasn't doing that.
Speaker 4: He'll be a pleasant surprise Todd.
Speaker 5: He will be a dog for the dog Pound.
Speaker 3: Okay, see Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 5: Second round selection.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna leave, Yeah, I think I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go say last one, all right.
Speaker 6: Paul Shador Sanders will be a Saints pro bowler.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: Roger Goodell's player hugs are blank.
Speaker 4: Intense and awkward. Do you see the way the players
Speaker 4: slap his hand. It's like a slap hug. They slap
Speaker 4: the doll crap out of his hand. His hand had
Speaker 4: to be beat right at the end of the night.
Speaker 2: But okay, I understand they're excited. I just don't buy
Speaker 2: into his excitement. Oh what, he has to stay with
Speaker 2: the hugun till the hug is completed. He has to
Speaker 2: complete the process. He can't bail on the hug.
Speaker 3: I know, but it's still a little awkward.
Speaker 4: Yes, marm I'm with you, because hugging Roger Goodell is
Speaker 4: a part of their dream. It's getting their name called
Speaker 4: and going up and shaking Roger Goodell's hand or dapping
Speaker 4: them up at least.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's also right. It is.
Speaker 9: It is like the culmination of everything that they've worked
Speaker 9: for their whole life.
Speaker 3: I love that hug.
Speaker 9: It's also, at the same time, the last time Roger
Speaker 9: Goodell cares about them.
Speaker 3: Save it. That's also that.
Speaker 9: Moment where he's like, oh, my good look, I hope
Speaker 9: you make as little money as possible from here on out.
Speaker 3: Good luck with your head stuff.
Speaker 7: Sorry, Todd, Roger Goodell's players hugs are commission the mark
Speaker 7: a bit photo oppy, commission the mark.
Speaker 8: Holy cow, No, No, that's terrible, terrible.
Speaker 3: He's doing that easily has the best answers of the panel.
Speaker 6: Easily pull Goodell's hug. Hugs are elongated.
Speaker 3: They last a long time. Seaton the last time he
Speaker 3: cares about them as people, that was my.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 7: So we say we should put the hugs on the
Speaker 7: clock as well as the teams for their picks.
Speaker 5: Maybe like with three seconds or less, you stop the hug.
Speaker 5: How could you do?
Speaker 3: That would be very awkward to see double down like
Speaker 3: you just move on.
Speaker 5: Commission the mark.
Speaker 3: No, it's terrible photo, It's terrible, terrible, And.
Speaker 2: Then Todd goes uh, I already got a T shirt
Speaker 2: ready for the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 5: This is where I'm supposed to look at T shirtings.
Speaker 3: And you got to turn your microphone. Yes, it was
Speaker 3: a golden Receiver.
Speaker 6: I love my golden.
Speaker 7: Receiver with a little doggy kind of thing instead of
Speaker 7: my Golden Retriever.
Speaker 3: The people, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 7: You you would buy that. I love my golden Receiver.
Speaker 7: I've seen more questionable T shirts and some of these
Speaker 7: tents that this up.
Speaker 2: There were groans, there were actual groans out there when
Speaker 2: you did that.
Speaker 7: That's because I said it, and they're just you know,
Speaker 7: they're favoring you here. But if they saw that outside
Speaker 7: in one of the stores. I love my golden receiver.
Speaker 7: Let's get ten of them.
Speaker 6: I'll actually put one on my golden retriever.
Speaker 3: How about we get rhyme time out of the way.
Speaker 3: How about we just yeah, let's go yeah.
Speaker 6: I love the way you sell it. There is why
Speaker 6: don't we just do this as there is?
Speaker 2: There is There is one woman who is really excited
Speaker 2: for you. One woman is in the audience. I appreciate it,
Speaker 2: very exciting.
Speaker 3: Think there's more than one person. There is one. There
Speaker 3: is one. She's in the front row.
Speaker 7: I think there's at least five people out there that
Speaker 7: kind of like my country be to the show.
Speaker 2: How many people like Todd, I'd just say around thirty percent.
Speaker 6: I don't even think there was thirty percent. That was
Speaker 6: like eighteen percent.
Speaker 5: They're big generous. That was maybe.
Speaker 2: Really they're people in Green Bay will cheer for anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're very nice people.
Speaker 7: And they have a stage manager says everybody clap when
Speaker 7: Dan says, does everybody encouraging? So they're not really clapping
Speaker 7: for me that the production people say, you gotta clap.
Speaker 5: Now, that's what happens.
Speaker 9: That's part of the pregame speech is clap for everything.
Speaker 9: Dan says, don't clap for anything.
Speaker 3: Todd says. Even if Dan says, clapp for Todd, don't do.
Speaker 3: I saw that on the C cards right there.
Speaker 9: I see, Okay, who here likes Marvin?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, do we want to do that? Who likes Marvin? Okay?
Speaker 6: All right, that's a bit delayed and little delay.
Speaker 2: They were like, I guess I'm gonna say that's around
Speaker 2: forty percent.
Speaker 5: That was definitely more than me who likes Seaton.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go sixty eight percent? Hot, Yeah, take sixty
Speaker 3: eight percent who likes paul rob them.
Speaker 6: I might have slipped into the third place there.
Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know, we'd have to hear it one
Speaker 5: more time.
Speaker 2: But Paulie's a Bears fan, so maybe they're gonna hold
Speaker 2: that against him.
Speaker 6: They retracted their applause.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I lead a league in Booze.
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody knows who I am, but
Speaker 3: uh did anybody like me? And all are where is doing?
Speaker 3: I'm not running grabbings right now. Actually, my stomach's a
Speaker 3: little upset. Had a long night.
Speaker 5: That is one of the best impresses it's ever that
Speaker 5: anyone's ever done. I really love that. I just want
Speaker 5: to share though.
Speaker 3: Thank you time, Thank you. It really sounds just like
Speaker 3: I appreciate the support.
Speaker 5: Welcome.
Speaker 3: How about rhyme time.
Speaker 5: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get this out of the work.
Speaker 7: We already did Bubba Franks and we move on to
Speaker 7: Simpson Shining, Simpson Shining. These are all Packer related and
Speaker 7: they're not rhymed Art Star, Bart Star, Bart Simpson and
Speaker 7: Shining Star exactly. Here you go, Picture Day sixty six,
Speaker 7: Picture Day Ray Ray Nich would be Picture Day sixty six.
Speaker 7: How about papped Golden Boy. Papped Golden Boy, that'll be
Speaker 7: Paul Horning.
Speaker 5: That's right. They called them the Golden Boy.
Speaker 7: Aloysious, colorless, aloycious colorg.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 7: Duck steerer, duck steerer. If you're steering a car, you're
Speaker 7: also doing a look.
Speaker 3: Driving Donald drive.
Speaker 6: Donald Driver would be Donald duck driver.
Speaker 5: Steer a duck steerul be Donald Driver.
Speaker 9: The best part of this is when you gives you
Speaker 9: the answer that I get excited, the.
Speaker 6: Worst, the worst when you're don't because I mean, it's
Speaker 6: tell it was clearly excited.
Speaker 7: Judge Kenny, Judge Kenny Aaron Rogers like.
Speaker 5: Kenny Rogers, Yes, Rogers.
Speaker 7: How about this one Nieman servant, Nieman servant like the
Speaker 7: painter Nieman.
Speaker 6: Lloyd Butler, Roy Butler.
Speaker 5: Butler exactly, Dixon bing, Dixon bing like a Dixon line.
Speaker 5: What comes before that? Dixon bing?
Speaker 4: Mason Crosby, Mason Crosbie, it would be exactly, that's Crosby.
Speaker 7: How about this Michael affection Michael Affection all Packer related.
Speaker 6: Michael Affection Jordan would be Michael Affection.
Speaker 7: Silver Keen silver Keen all Packers past and pray Adam silver.
Speaker 5: Kean would be Sterling sharp silver like Sterling.
Speaker 3: Silver key Adam silver.
Speaker 6: For more real quick, will Fork Trophy, This should be
Speaker 6: very easy.
Speaker 2: Will Fork Trophy, Ben Slumbar, somebody would be will Fork Trophy.
Speaker 5: Okay, here's the only rhymes. One slice volleyball A little controversial.
Speaker 5: A slice volleyball. If you're slicing the turkey, you're doing what.
Speaker 7: Cutting or you're carving and volleyball like your daughter's volleyball.
Speaker 7: Needed look at a carving far for slice volleyball card far,
Speaker 7: Riccatta skull, This what happens?
Speaker 6: I got the same birthday's bread. Don't bloom me.
Speaker 11: Exactly.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, you tell me this every year.
Speaker 12: Riccatta skulls, Riccatta skulls. Shees has and the last one
Speaker 12: is curly jump, curly jump lambole.
Speaker 6: Oh fie, why not come on screen?
Speaker 2: Bay?
Speaker 3: Who likes Tod? Who likes Todd?
Speaker 6: Oh? And that's what the stage manager.
Speaker 3: Holy, this is the best audience we've had this week.
Speaker 3: Ranks to four.
Speaker 6: It's so weak. That's so weak.
Speaker 3: Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 6: Nobody?
Speaker 3: Take a break.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Tom Pelsero of NFL Network right after this.
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Speaker 2: We are Fox Sports Radio and some meat Friday, so
Speaker 2: of course was checking out the food. We got wings
Speaker 2: we got rots, we got cheese curds here? Why not
Speaker 2: went in Green Bay? A couple of phone calls, then
Speaker 2: we'll make way for Tom Pellicero, NFL Network insider Jesse
Speaker 2: in Louisiana. I, Jesse, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: U DP and Dannett's.
Speaker 3: So six five A wiry one.
Speaker 13: I know your son is a big Packers fan, as
Speaker 13: am I. Who's happier? Me and your son are saltier?
Speaker 13: Aaron Rodgers, who's happier?
Speaker 2: I think my son's happy that the Packers drafted a
Speaker 2: wide receiver. But I don't know the state of mind
Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers might be in today. But you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was doing anything until after the draft.
Speaker 2: So now the draft is over first round. But I
Speaker 2: think they're going to still take a quarterback here. I
Speaker 2: think the kid out a little. They go to the Steelers.
Speaker 2: H Jesse and Kansas Hey, Jesse.
Speaker 14: Hi six three two O five second time a long time.
Speaker 14: I'm calling in say thank you guys for something to
Speaker 14: kind of give you a best of the weekend. I'll
Speaker 14: try and be fast about it. I was going to
Speaker 14: call in on February seventeenth to you guys, a show
Speaker 14: and tell you the best of the weekend was I
Speaker 14: had my first child. We had some complications and spent
Speaker 14: six weeks in the nick you and I was going
Speaker 14: to call in after that and say best of the weekend.
Speaker 14: We were home. But things are still trying to touch
Speaker 14: and go here with him, but he's gotten a whole
Speaker 14: lot better and I am calling and say my best
Speaker 14: of the weekend is that I get to watch my
Speaker 14: first draft with my little boy. The worst of the
Speaker 14: weekend for him, as he found out he's a Raiders fan.
Speaker 14: So that's but he's gonna do.
Speaker 3: No. I like what like what the Raiders did? No?
Speaker 2: No, Now you know all the previous years with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Good thing he's not been subjected to that. But I
Speaker 2: like what you did, Ashton Gents. I like the pick
Speaker 2: and good luck, good luck with your son having a
Speaker 2: child who was in the intensive care unit.
Speaker 3: That that. Those nurses are unbelievable.
Speaker 2: They are. They are gifts from God, truly are, and
Speaker 2: so is Tom Pella Sero. At least his hair is
Speaker 2: a gift from God. NFL Network Insider, he'll be part
Speaker 2: of the coverage they start tonight seven Eastern with rounds
Speaker 2: two and three's we make way for Tom hellas hero.
Speaker 8: Fellas you know I do I hug you now, No, no, no,
Speaker 8: I'm across the desk.
Speaker 2: I'm not a hugger. You do have to have your
Speaker 2: phone out if you're an in. It's mandatory, right.
Speaker 8: There's literally people responding to text that I said about
Speaker 8: one am, because I think the league is just now
Speaker 8: beginning to wake up.
Speaker 3: Where.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the oddest place you've gotten a text or
Speaker 2: responded to a text today ever?
Speaker 11: I mean, if you can, if you can think of it,
Speaker 11: I have done it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I can think of it. But I don't know if.
Speaker 8: The pool pool, you know, jumping out of the pool
Speaker 8: on spring break because I got a little the little
Speaker 8: ding on my Apple Watch and jumping out to tweet
Speaker 8: something pool side, that's a.
Speaker 11: That's a fairly good one.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, late late night late nights.
Speaker 11: Oh, I mean absolutely.
Speaker 8: I mean getting woken up in bed because the phone
Speaker 8: starts ringing and finding out you know, the Raiders just
Speaker 8: fired their offensive coordinator at one am, and then just
Speaker 8: going all right, well, I guess I gotta do with
Speaker 8: this now. My wife has gotten used to it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: It's just like, oh, what is it now? My Raiders
Speaker 8: fired the OC It is like again.
Speaker 11: I'm like, yes, what happens?
Speaker 2: Take me back to yesterday at this time, what did
Speaker 2: you think was going to happen?
Speaker 11: Cam Or was obviously going one.
Speaker 8: The question to two is were the Browns and the
Speaker 8: Jaguars going to put together that deal? They'd been working
Speaker 8: on it for a few days. It wasn't until a
Speaker 8: couple hours before though, that it started to become clear
Speaker 8: this was really happening and the Jaguars are going up
Speaker 8: and getting Travis Hunter.
Speaker 11: You know, at three.
Speaker 8: It had been over the last several days pretty clear
Speaker 8: that the Giants were going to go with Abdual Carter
Speaker 8: and probably tried to trade up for a quarterback, which
Speaker 8: I thought was going to be Jackson Dart.
Speaker 11: I didn't know, but I thought it was Dart.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 8: The real action I think began with obviously the trade
Speaker 8: up from five to two. But then it was when
Speaker 8: we got into the middle of the first round, because
Speaker 8: this was a draft where there just weren't that many
Speaker 8: blue chip type players and so all of a sudden
Speaker 8: when it's you know, guys are beginning to slide. When
Speaker 8: the Falcons trade back up and get a second pass rusher.
Speaker 8: Obviously what happened with the Giants there. There weren't a
Speaker 8: lot of surprise names in Round one, but there were
Speaker 8: definitely some surprises just in terms of how aggressive teams were.
Speaker 8: How many times did you guys on this show probably
Speaker 8: talk about a single Ford pick moved. We had not
Speaker 8: only a handful of trades last say, we had two
Speaker 8: twenty twenty six first rounders change hands, So we're already
Speaker 8: way ahead of the game here.
Speaker 3: How surprised were you should Door Sanders doesn't go.
Speaker 8: I would say this on Shador Sanders when you talk
Speaker 8: to people in the league like I have and the
Speaker 8: coaches and executives and gms. I listed him when I
Speaker 8: wrote my twelve thousand word quarterback story as a Round
Speaker 8: one to two guy, and that's the same one as
Speaker 8: as Jackson Dart, as Jayla Milroe, as Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 11: All four of those guys were kind of bunched together.
Speaker 8: In the opinion of the people within the league who
Speaker 8: had studied it, who had interviewed all these guys and
Speaker 8: done the pro days and the private workouts. There was
Speaker 8: one quarterback who profiled as a surefire starter and that
Speaker 8: was cam Ward. He got four other guys who were
Speaker 8: kind of on the border, and Shador is one of those. Listen,
Speaker 8: he was a highly productive college quarterback. We know how
Speaker 8: they turn things around from a one win team at Colorado.
Speaker 8: You know, he's very accurate, he's very tough. People love
Speaker 8: that about him. But he does not the biggest guy.
Speaker 8: He does and have the biggest arm. He's not an
Speaker 8: elite athlete, which you would expect, being Dion's kid, that
Speaker 8: he would be.
Speaker 11: And so that just raises questions.
Speaker 8: When your entire game is built up this freewheeling style
Speaker 8: and every highlight is you scrambling around and throwing off
Speaker 8: your back foot and things like, there's real questions is
Speaker 8: that going to work or is he going to have
Speaker 8: to transition to be more of a Drew Brees style processor.
Speaker 8: That's one of the most common comps is you know,
Speaker 8: from a size perspective, arm perspective, he's very you know,
Speaker 8: he's clearly smart, but he hasn't had to really go
Speaker 8: through progressions, you know, and so it's a learning process.
Speaker 8: And when you're talking abou adjusting your game on top
Speaker 8: of obviously all the other things that have been discussed
Speaker 8: about the culture shock of him coming into an NFL building.
Speaker 8: I'm not surprised. I wouldn't have been surprised if be
Speaker 8: won in round one. I wasn't surprised he didn't. It's
Speaker 8: interesting that you bring up the processing. I was told
Speaker 8: the same thing yesterday, and I was told by my
Speaker 8: source that he didn't have a first round grade on
Speaker 8: him and that he wasn't going in the first round
Speaker 8: in his opinion. And he said, it's no knock on
Speaker 8: what he did in college. He was great in college,
Speaker 8: but there are a lot of guys who were great
Speaker 8: in college. And I said, can you see a comparison
Speaker 8: between him and Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 3: Size wise, attitude wise.
Speaker 2: Confident, slash cocky, And I think there is a comparison there.
Speaker 2: But we might look at what Baker does and go, yeah,
Speaker 2: but we don't like that with Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 8: I think some of the same stuff was said about
Speaker 8: Baker Mayfield. I recall writing that back in that draft,
Speaker 8: which was I think twenty eighteen was the Baker Mayfield Draft,
Speaker 8: and there were people who we rubbed the wrong way.
Speaker 8: Baker had some bad interviews. I remember him going to
Speaker 8: the Senior Bowl and he was there for like half
Speaker 8: a day and people were like, we couldn't even get
Speaker 8: him in the room, and like this this guy remember
Speaker 8: all the stuff in college, the crops grabbing and you've
Speaker 8: tried to run away from the cops that one time
Speaker 8: and got taken down. Like there was just all this
Speaker 8: like this stuff that you were trying to deal with
Speaker 8: with him, you know, and Sha doesn't have those things.
Speaker 11: There's not off the field concerns we should door.
Speaker 8: He's not a party guy, Like, he's all football and
Speaker 8: the people you talk to like he wants to be great.
Speaker 11: I think the bigger.
Speaker 8: Question besides all the physical stuff I just said, is
Speaker 8: just when you've only played for your father, going all
Speaker 8: the way back from youth football through high school through college,
Speaker 8: there's a different accountability structure that comes with that. Well,
Speaker 8: Shador Sanders ever going to get benched if he had
Speaker 8: a bad game? Was he ever going to get benched?
Speaker 8: Everybody else lives in fear of being benched. You come
Speaker 8: into an NFL locker room, you're not going to probably
Speaker 8: have as much input on who your quarterbacks coach and
Speaker 8: your ocr what plays are called, what the locker room
Speaker 8: looks like, and things like that you're walking into a
Speaker 8: different type of an environment and on top of that,
Speaker 8: you know the other part of it, and I just
Speaker 8: I hate the idea of like, you know, he's sliding
Speaker 8: a There are a lot of people like you just said,
Speaker 8: who didn't have first round grades on him, but be
Speaker 8: there's so few quarterback teams. This isn't like, well, will
Speaker 8: take best player available, We'll take another guard. You don't go, well,
Speaker 8: best player available, We'll take another quarterback. It's like, no,
Speaker 8: people don't do that. Last night, there were only really
Speaker 8: two spots that shad Or could have gone, and that
Speaker 8: was the Giants, or was to the Steelers at twenty.
Speaker 8: The Giants obviously had Jackson Dart graded above him, which
Speaker 8: I was pulled from a football perspective, had a lot
Speaker 8: to do with the ability of just the layers to
Speaker 8: his game. You can run RPOs and read options and
Speaker 8: things like Davill did with Josh Allen, like you did
Speaker 8: with Daniel Jones in dables first year, and he was
Speaker 8: the coach of the Year, and want a playoff game,
Speaker 8: you know, with Shador, that's just not his style of play.
Speaker 8: So they chose to go a different direction, and that's
Speaker 8: the other part of it when I.
Speaker 11: Mentioned all these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 8: So two one off the board last night, the next
Speaker 8: three in all likelihood, in some order will be Shador, Sanders,
Speaker 8: Jalen Milroe, and Tyler Shuck. And you could not find
Speaker 8: three more different guys out there. Tyler Shuck is like
Speaker 8: the processing guy, but he's just tall. He's a pure
Speaker 8: pocket passer, decent athlete, but not a runner, and he's
Speaker 8: probably got a limited type of upside. Jalen Milroe is
Speaker 8: all upside, unbelievable runner, huge arm, just doesn't know where
Speaker 8: it's going. Can you teach him to improve the accuracy?
Speaker 8: Chador is a much more polished passer than Jalen Millroe,
Speaker 8: but he's not the athlete.
Speaker 11: And what this goes back to is when your source
Speaker 11: is saying that to you, it's about traits.
Speaker 8: Well, people have to understand with scouting, it's not just well,
Speaker 8: this guy the most passing yards. Kyle McCord would go
Speaker 8: number one if that were the case. No, it's what
Speaker 8: are the traits that project? What do you see this player?
Speaker 8: As in the NFL. One scout told me on Shador
Speaker 8: their complice, it's like Gino Smith with a little less harm,
Speaker 8: and I think that that's probably a fairly You can
Speaker 8: argue the comparison, but I think that that's a fair
Speaker 8: way of looking at it, which is Chador even though
Speaker 8: he ran around a lot in college, he was running
Speaker 8: around to throw.
Speaker 11: He's not a scrambled to run guy pocket passer.
Speaker 1: And it took.
Speaker 8: Gino quite a while to go from the guy at
Speaker 8: West Virginia to the one that now has had this
Speaker 8: amazing renaissance in Seattle.
Speaker 2: In now Vegas, we're talking to Tom Pelsero, NFL Network insider.
Speaker 2: So let the audience understand what you do today with
Speaker 2: your job, as far as are you making calls about
Speaker 2: last night or making calls about tonight?
Speaker 11: Predominantly making calls about tonight.
Speaker 8: Most of my work from last night was sending a
Speaker 8: series of texts, going to sleep and then waking up
Speaker 8: to see what people say because I'd be on Good
Speaker 8: Morning Football AM today. Now the rest of today is
Speaker 8: more about it's not just okay, what's going to happen
Speaker 8: in those.
Speaker 11: First few picks.
Speaker 8: Every year there's a report that probably will be one
Speaker 8: today that the team at thirty three is shopping that pick,
Speaker 8: and like two thirds of the time they don't trade it.
Speaker 11: But that is the next selection.
Speaker 8: Hey, if you want to come up, cause everybody now
Speaker 8: gets a chance to reset and get the top guy
Speaker 8: left on your board. We're open for business. You want
Speaker 8: to pay a premium to come up and get them,
Speaker 8: you can go ahead and do that. This is also
Speaker 8: now over the next really twenty four hours, the phase
Speaker 8: of the draft where any veteran players who have uncertain situations,
Speaker 8: if they're going to be traded, it's probably going to
Speaker 8: happen right now. So to take, for example, Trey Hendrickson,
Speaker 8: who the Bengals have wanted a first round pick. If
Speaker 8: they're going to trade him, there hasn't seen to be
Speaker 8: a lot of momentum or action on that front, while
Speaker 8: they're also still having conversations about his contract. Well, if
Speaker 8: you get pass the point of even getting a two forum,
Speaker 8: the second round comes and goes. Now you're talking about
Speaker 8: twenty twenty six draft capital, which doesn't help the twenty
Speaker 8: twenty five Bengals who think that they can compete for
Speaker 8: a Super Bowl right now. And so whether it is
Speaker 8: you know, Jalen Ramsey, whether it's some of those tight
Speaker 8: ends whose names have been out there, Pallas Goddard, Mark Andrews.
Speaker 8: If it's gonna happen, it happens now. But the other
Speaker 8: thing that you see is as the draft is going on,
Speaker 8: some of those teams, like let's say you're Howie Roseman
Speaker 8: and you're shopping Dallas Goddard and you think, all right,
Speaker 8: the Colts really need a tight end, like that's my spot,
Speaker 8: I'll get a third day pick for.
Speaker 11: Then they go, hey, Tyler Warren just fell in our lap.
Speaker 6: We got our tight end.
Speaker 8: They're out of the mix, and so the pool of
Speaker 8: teams willing to draft gets smaller.
Speaker 11: Sometimes.
Speaker 8: Also, you have somebody who gets drafted and you're like, huh,
Speaker 8: why did they take that guy when they have this guy?
Speaker 8: And that's because they're ready for him to become available
Speaker 8: here over these next forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: If the Steelers don't take a quarterback, finish that sentence, they.
Speaker 8: Better they better hope that Aaron Rodgers decides to play.
Speaker 8: They are comfortable with Mason Rudolph if as a stopgap
Speaker 8: type of starter. I think you also have a reflection
Speaker 8: within the league right now. The twenty twenty five draft
Speaker 8: may not be good as the twenty twenty six draft
Speaker 8: for quarterbacks think about some of the things that already
Speaker 8: happened in this draft. The Browns traded back. They didn't
Speaker 8: take a coquarquarter back they could still take when they
Speaker 8: got two of the first four picks tonight, but they
Speaker 8: added a first round pick next year from the Jaguars,
Speaker 8: which gives them ammunition. The Rams, after trying to trade up,
Speaker 8: I believe it was for a Mecca a Buca last night,
Speaker 8: they end up bailing out.
Speaker 3: They were looking to get the reason.
Speaker 8: My understanding was there were two teams that were both
Speaker 8: trying to trade up. It was the Texans and the Rams,
Speaker 8: and the moment the Bucks surprised everybody by taking a
Speaker 8: Mecca Abuka, the receiver from.
Speaker 11: Ohio State, the calls stopped.
Speaker 8: Those teams were calling all the teams above them, and
Speaker 8: all of a sudden the calls stopped. So that's the
Speaker 8: belief that Abuka was the guy. He goes off the board.
Speaker 8: Rams baill out. They pick up a first round or
Speaker 8: next year, which if Matthew Stafford continues to be a
Speaker 8: year to year again, might give you the ammunition to
Speaker 8: move up.
Speaker 3: Is arch Manning already top of mock drafts.
Speaker 8: I think the early ones, but the early ones, sometimes
Speaker 8: they're not an accurate reflection where we end up. Cam
Speaker 8: Ward a year ago was a mid round draft pick.
Speaker 8: Sjador Sanders was the one that everybody was talking about.
Speaker 8: If these things is varied, but certainly I mean arts
Speaker 8: just based on you know, the lineage and the athletic ability.
Speaker 11: You know, Quinn Ewrers is going to get drafted.
Speaker 3: Eg.
Speaker 8: He drafted tonight in the third round. But you know,
Speaker 8: I had one longtime assistant coach who said, like when
Speaker 8: you go back and forth, you're watching Texas tape, if
Speaker 8: you're watching the wide receivers or whatever, you're watching a
Speaker 8: cut up, and it's like you could tell the difference
Speaker 8: when the ball is coming off Arch Manning's hand.
Speaker 11: There's a lot there. There's obviously run.
Speaker 8: Ability and athletic ability, which is not generally what the
Speaker 8: Mannings are associated with. He's going to be a top prospect,
Speaker 8: but he also hasn't been the starter because Steve Sarkisian
Speaker 8: had a great deal of loyalty to Quinn Yours, who
Speaker 8: won a lot of football games.
Speaker 11: Quinn Yours is one of like the under.
Speaker 8: Talked about guys in this entire draft, and it has
Speaker 8: to do with the fact, much like Shador he is smaller,
Speaker 8: he doesn't have a big arm. Not an elite athlete,
Speaker 8: but very productive and efficient with what he did and
Speaker 8: won a ton of football games on a team that
Speaker 8: went to the College Football Payoff twice.
Speaker 11: They were eleven and one on the road with him
Speaker 11: as the starter.
Speaker 8: He's wanted two quarterbacks the last decade to beat Nick
Speaker 8: Saban at Alabama along with Joe Burrow. Like you'd think
Speaker 8: saying that resume, the guy would be going number one.
Speaker 8: But that goes back to the shad Or Sanders question,
Speaker 8: why isn't he going higher? Well, if his athletic profile
Speaker 8: compares much more to Quinn yours than it might even
Speaker 8: to cam Ward, that should help people understand a little more.
Speaker 11: While still on the board.
Speaker 3: Wildest rumor you've heard.
Speaker 11: I mean there were a few yesterday.
Speaker 8: Now once again not reporting right, I'm trying to think
Speaker 8: what the wildest one was yesterday, because some of them
Speaker 8: came true. I mean, the Falcons coming back up for
Speaker 8: a second pass rusher was a pretty.
Speaker 11: Wild, wild type of a thing.
Speaker 8: Even the Jaguars trading up for Travis Hunter that seemed
Speaker 8: completely wild, and then it ended up happening. I would say,
Speaker 8: we're kind of out of the rumor area of it,
Speaker 8: but I would say this, all right, for quarterbacks today,
Speaker 8: the wilder all right, I'll give you this one. The
Speaker 8: wildest rumor phrases more than a rumor, but the wildest
Speaker 8: rumor is that the third quarterback off the board will
Speaker 8: not be should Sanders illinotp be Jayleen Milroe. It'll be
Speaker 8: Tyler Shuck who was justin Herbert's backup for two years
Speaker 8: at Oregon. That will shock a lot of people, So
Speaker 8: brace yourselves for all to talk about shd her last night.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying this will happen, but it's entirely possible.
Speaker 8: He's not the third, maybe not the fourth quarterback off
Speaker 8: the board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that the Steelers really like him.
Speaker 2: I was still in that yesterday, but I I'm not
Speaker 2: going to be surprised at that, but only because I
Speaker 2: had intel that somebody said, don't be surprised that this guy,
Speaker 2: this guy can play in the NFL. Even Lewis Riddick
Speaker 2: said he's a guy who could probably be a quarterback
Speaker 2: in the NFL for ten years.
Speaker 3: Right, So I'm like, all right.
Speaker 8: He's one of those guys who you know, again, lacking
Speaker 8: physical traits in terms of he doesn't have the biggest arm,
Speaker 8: but he is he's got NFL size, he was a
Speaker 8: tall guy. He does have a pretty good arm, and
Speaker 8: he's been exposed to so much. I mean, think about
Speaker 8: seven years of college football, which everyone's dreams seven years
Speaker 8: in college rather than the three major in injuries. But
Speaker 8: he's been around forever and he's been exposed to all
Speaker 8: these different systems, all these different coaches.
Speaker 11: That's why he rose.
Speaker 8: Up during the process was he could sit down and
Speaker 8: whatever team he was with, he was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 8: I ran that, you know, I was twenty nineteen at Oregon,
Speaker 8: and so he's really helped himself. The one thing was
Speaker 8: shocked because he's had all those injuries that people get
Speaker 8: nervous about, and there are a bunch of people brought
Speaker 8: this up to me, is you can see it. It's
Speaker 8: not even so much like a risk of further injury.
Speaker 8: It's a does it impact his play when the rush
Speaker 8: is bearing down on him? Does he shy away from
Speaker 8: contract contact? Does he have a little bit of a
Speaker 8: flinch to him. That's going to bother some people more
Speaker 8: than others. But if you're one of those people, out
Speaker 8: of let's say, the Shanahan McVeigh style of offense, where you
Speaker 8: just want him to see it, process it, get the
Speaker 8: football to his playmakers.
Speaker 11: You're gonna like Tyler Shuck.
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Speaker 2: of the day, how's my hair look? Twenty twenty five
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Speaker 3: Let me turn my mic on there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, we can close up the poll question. Who
Speaker 9: made the better decision long term? Sixty of the Jaguars?
Speaker 9: People really like that? Travis Hunter pick.
Speaker 3: Okay, right now, who will be in the NFL Rookie
Speaker 3: of the Year. Cam Ward has ticked up to four
Speaker 3: percent of that vote.
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, okay, there we go, moving in positive direction.
Speaker 9: Travis Hunter running away with that one. Ashton genty We
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Speaker 10: Paul just a couple dan nineteen oh nine home run
Speaker 10: Baker hit his only Grand Slam of his career.
Speaker 6: Great nickname though.
Speaker 10: And then in nineteen seventy four, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 10: were awarded the NFL's twenty seventh franchise.
Speaker 2: It was on this day in nineteen seventy four the
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Speaker 2: him back because guys were running into the gold post.
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Speaker 2: Why don't we move it back? Okay, yeah, Paul, I'd
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Speaker 2: I'll start with you.
Speaker 4: Joe Thomas said, longer is better than shorter?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right then, yeah, you know what they're thinking
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Speaker 2: what did you learn today?
Speaker 7: Joe Thomas kept his commitment to go fishing with his
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Speaker 5: Lewis Riddick believes QB.
Speaker 7: Tyler s Juck will surprise a lot of people in
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